Voice Coach Reacts | JINJER | Judgement (& Punishment) | Tatiana Shmayluk One Take Vocal Performance
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2020
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"Its not so safe and sometimes u need that in your life"...and every metalhead goes...yup!
Fun fact.
Might as well prove you're alive.
The tattoos on her biceps are fish scales, and, the one on her throat is a stylized representation of the Aztec god, Quetzalcoatl.
Tattoos are for EVERYONE. If you're really thinking about possibly getting a tattoo, here are some tips: First, find an artist you're comfortable with, and, one whose artistic vision & style speaks to you. And, DO NOT go bargain hunting!!! Can't be stressed enough. A tattoo is forever. It's worth paying for quality.
It really appears to me that you are on the the verge of becoming a metal head 😝
Take the leap and join the family 🤟
If there were more bands like Jinjer then yes, but Jinjer is the only Metal or even rock band I am into right now.
Typical metal is much more one dimensional and not nearly as complex as Jinjer songs. They are blending styles like no other band, their metal parts always serve a purpose. All 4 band members are outstanding musicians and live performers. So if you are into music of any kind you should be able to recognize the greatness of Jinjer.
@@Krmpfpks It looks like you would like some avant-garde metal or progressive, like Zeal & Ardor or Ne Obliviscaris.
@@LeonBlackbird thanks you for the suggestions. Yes that is well produced music and it is very artistic on an intellectual level. However it doesn't invoke the same response in me as the raw power of jinjer. Both your suggestions sound much tamer in comparison. Maybe I don't do them justice after my first impression, I will continue to look into their work.
@@Krmpfpks spiritbox is very good also highly recommended
Pewterschmidt23 Lord yes I have listened to spiritbox. Very talented. Also very interesting to hear how different her screams are to Tatyanas.
I ended in tears watching your reaction to Tatiana. Thank you for your wonderful comments. It really touched me. And I am sure that if Tatiana will see this she will love your reaction as well.
Love your reactions, and I love the fact that you actually like Jinjer. I think you have an uplifting and cute energy, and also appreaciate that you're open mind and willing to listen new sounds like this :)
Thank you!
Yup seconded. It's so easy to paint yourself into a corner with music so it's awesome to see more people appreciate different music than what's their usual go to. I know I've discovered some amazing music thanks to reactors. Love it. Happy new year!
Looks like I'm getting up at 6am on Saturday haha.
Thank you for calling it growling and not screaming. There's a rather large difference!!! ps: your intro is magnificent
Oh thank you!
You have no idea..... you shaking your head in almost disbelief was in time and your smile couldn't have been any more pure! Tatiana is a crush I have to admit but dear you have warmed me over
"It's just nice to hear some things that have some... musical variety. It's actually thrilling to hear it. It's not so safe. And sometimes you need that in your life."
This is exactly why I started listening to metal in 1989.
Love your attitude toward the heavier vocals. I'm 47 and grew up on metal but not anything with harsh vocals. Just in the last few years have I grown to appreciate the Tatianas and Mikael Akerfeldts of the world.
Opeth is the first band that was just so good that i forced myself to listen to them even though i hated harsh vocals, then i fell in love with his growls and now i love growls all because opeth is just to good to not listen to haha
I'm 50 and have been a metalhead since I was 9-10. It was only about five years ago that the growling finally clicked with me - I think the secret was coming to view it as another instrument rather than another vocal if you know what I mean? But these days I can flick between Roundabout by Yes and Perennial by Jinjer and see no contradiction whatsoever - it's just absolute peak talents at work.
@@dmanton300 yes exactly it just became an emotion more than vocals
Tomi Joutsen of Amorphis is another one with great variation in his vocals. I like his growls, but his clean voice is magical.
And Floor, and Jari...
Once Tatiana said that she imaging herself having two mouths - one for clean vocal and another for scream.
I'm not quite sure but it's possible that Quetzalcoatl at her neck symbolizes her second, fierce mouth.
Very interesting! 🤔
hmmmm, I don't know about that. Quetzalcoatl is represented by a feathered serpent, but in reality he was a messiah, like Jesus, and we are still waiting for his return. Not really fierce imo.
@@hierbich Jep blond blue ayed berded man that shared his wisdom and technology with the people in south amerika and he come in selfpowered ships .. (Atlantean?)
@@kennethmikaelsson7990 or just a viking of sorts with metallurgy knowledge. It is very possible that Quetzalcoatl was such a man. It is known vikings came to the Americas much earlier than the Spaniards.
Good to see, you followed the suggestion on that. You won't be disappointed. Queen Tati brings it. :)
Whats most amazing to me, is that English isn't her 1st language..yet, she can do all she does! I truly dig this entire band.. ty 4 ur reaction..i enjoy ur candor!
Yes, your first tattoo should definitely be in a very visible space like the neck!
😂 Favorite comment of the day!
The surprise upload when you blow us all away with guttural growls and piercing screams should be amazing! We all wait patiently.
So, you want to know what Jinjer songs to check out/react to.
1. Perennial (Live) at Wacken 2019
2. Who is Gonna Be the One Live
3. I Speak Astronomy (Official Video)
4. Pit of Consciousness (Official Video or Live in Kiev (though they have a rare moment of getting a little out of synch with each other near the very end in that live performance)
5. On the Top (Official Video or Live)
6. Sit, Stay, Rollover (Official Video)
7. Teacher, Teacher (Official Video)
8. Just Another (Official Video)
9. Outlander (Official Video)
10. Scissors (Official Video) (this is one of their earliest singles so you can see how far Tatiana has come though she's still excellent on this track)
11. Cloud Factory (Live)
12. Captain Clock (Live)
13. Ape (Official Video)
14. Words of Wisdom (Official Video)
15. No Hoard of Value (Official Lyric Video)
Seeing the sheer joy on your face really made my day, Christi! Your open mind and appreciation of talent and skill shines through. We followers learn a lot from you. Thank you!
her neck tattoo is quetzalcoatl the feathered serpent
I loved your comment about Tatiana being who you wanna be when you grow up. I’m a 42 year old male and I feel the same 😂 she is just awesome, and the whole band too. They seem to put so much into their compositions and there is just so much re-listening value in many of their songs.
"walking in her glory"
I love that
On the subject of Tatiana's breathing she has said that after a long set her abs feel like she's done 100s of situps.
4 musicians, 4 world-class musicians and one of them is Tati who opens the door to Jinjer music!
thanks for your reaction and stay safe, and maybe you can do:
JINJER - On The Top (Live in Kiev) | Napalm Records.
I will tell you something; I've been involved with music in different genres for 50 years, but Jinjer is something very special..................
greetings from germany and from a german musician
Good someone recommended this video. It is very underrepresented in the "reaction community". And it is a beautiful song beautifully played and sung. I would have been amazed if the live album would not have been the Melbourne concert but the Kiev one. But most probably many concerts of them are good enough to make an album out of them.
@@imcrazedandconfused it's the Melbourne concert, but I like the Kiev concert even more :-)
greetings and stay safe!
I've seen lots of Jinjer reactions and I keep rewatching this one because I love watching you decide three things:
1. You should listen to more metal (especially Jinjer) for inspiration, energy and "those kinds of days"
2. You should learn to growl (who shouldn't!?)
3. You should get a tattoo because Tatiana's are awesome (the sleeves, but especially the Quetzalcoatl on her larynx!)
I hope you'll react to more Jinjer, if you do, check out the lyrics beforehand (I love Tatiana's lyrics!)
I think two songs that you would love for parts of her clean vocals are Perennial (live at Wacken) and Teacher Teacher (official video is clips from three stage performances). Two of my other favorites are: Who Is Gonna Be The One (great protest song) and Home Back (anti war message meaningful for all the band members and really everyone).
A band for you to consider is Wishbone Ash and their song The King WIll Come from the album Argus. They are believed to be the first band to use a dual lead guitar and this prog album was released in 1972. I don't believe it has ever been remastered so you have the original compression to about 30 db of headroom but it is still a masterpiece.
You are very open-minded and that's what makes the world go round and what helps understanding spread between humans. Love you!
This is incredible. I don’t know if you have watched Devin Townsend, if not, please watch his rendition of “Kingdom” at EMG. Then watch the best video you will see all year long, “why?” Sung in his home studio during quarantine.
She’s hands down one of my favourite vocalists. Not just in metal or as a female vocalist, just in general.
The rest of the band are exactly the same as her in their own fields. The talent and creativity in the entire band is incredibly admirable.
Metal amazes if you truly listen and understand and you've barely scratched the surface.
██ 2 Jinjer songs for next reactions:
JINJER - Perennial (Live at Wacken Open Air 2019) | Napalm Records
JINJER - Teacher, Teacher! (Live in Melbourne) | Napalm Records
I VERY MUCH recommend Teacher, Teacher. In that song, she goes higher than on Pisces when singing clean, which is impressive given she usually doesn't sing that high clean section of Pisces for fear of screwing it up, yet teacher teacher she sings the high note always! :)
This type of music is all about opening your mind and being who you are.. awesome to see you embracing that!
Worth checking out Spiritbox, “Rule of Nines” and “Holy Roller” (in that order) if you want to hear Courtney as well. Both one take performances. She is also AMAZING. Huge fan of both of these women!!
The Beauty of Suffering live vocal doesn't get enough attention. My fave.
What impresses me most is that she is singing three inches from the mic with no pop shield, and her plosives are totally controlled. She must be able to sing using almost no breath. Extraordinary. And finally - at no point did I see any neck tendons standing out.
Wow, your´re a great reactor!! I just watched all your Jinjer videos and really enjoyed them! Very laid back and calm but also very insightful and fun. And your deconstruction at end is very enlightening!
This a truly special and talented band. A breath of fresh air in the genre with this song being a major example. The way they blend reggae with metal so seamlessly and then execute it so brilliantly is a beauty! Sure there are other bands with female singers and growlers in metal, but none reaches the cheer brilliance of Jinjer and Tatiana, nowadays they are just at the top of the game.
Would really love to get your take on a live performance! The song "Perennial" live at Wacken 2019 is a blast and showcases all of what this band can really do. For an epic journey of music, vocals and visuals, "I Speak Astronomy" official video is a song I think would be right up your alley since you are not so much in growling. Still has them, but the vocal range of Tatiana in this goes to the sky...literally!
Keep up the great vids.
Hi Christie, I really appreciate your open approach to new genres and esp. metal genre. For me this is one of the great things about music, there is always something new to create and explore. I think, people should not get tamer with age, but more open-minded and willing to experiment in interesting fields with the wider perspective of experience. I started in a choir, then progressed to guitar and bass in blues, jezz, heavy rock, electronic music, and with 50 I finally joined my (first?) death metal band with musicians half my age and a fierce growler in front. I might not have had the courage to do that with 15 or 16... Ha, and I got my second tattoo after 25 years. might not be the last. Tattoos in, uhm, "our age" are most probably something very different to tattoos in the twenties of age. We know more of what we want and what decades are and may have different stories that influence what design we choose. The tattoo on Tati's left upper arm is hiding an older portrait tattoo, therefore the strong symmetry, the very dark black contrast design. I guess she was not as happy with the tattoo before anymore, and made something differently awesome out of it, that is somehow brave and beautiful at the same time...
So Great! Tatiana is The real deal!
Funny you should say that it would be nice to shock people as that is why Tatiana learned to growl in the first place!
Great live performance
JINJER - Pit of Consciousness (Live in Kiev)
girl, i like the shine in ur eyes when u see Tati doing Tati's stuff..
If you haven't checked out perennial live at Wacken yet. You gotta check that out. Flawless
Throat tattoo is Quetzalcoatl, the feathered serpent.
neck tattoos look horrible
TTT S. I would usually agree. Usually the neck tattoos I see are bf/gf names, ex-bf/ex-gf names, or names of children. Occasionally some other stupid shit. And, the thought I usually have is ‘guess you like being unemployable’. However, considering Tatiana’s vocation, this tattoo fits here. I like it.
xraysteve Yes. I’m not a tattoo fan, but symbolically, this tattoo is perfect.
Is it really Quetzatcoatl? Ha! Mexica Power in her throat!
@Michael Price clearly you do since you replied. also 2 people who liked your comment care too. if you truly didnt care you would ignore my comment. odlepršaj blentone
I know it's so late to be posting this buuuuut, the way I was taught to scream like this was to imagine your mom asking you to do chores as you were a teen. The way you would go "ugh mommmm". It's that "Ugh" sound. You can manipulate it further up the nose, or down the throat as needed. It just takes a TON of practice!
One of my favourate vocal teachers to watch on UA-cam, who teach the different types of screams, is Mary Z of VoiceHacks.
Since you love the «meter changes» you love prog metal !!
I remember seeing in an interview that shocking everyone was Tatiana's motivation for learning/developing to growl like that.
yup, she heard Otep and was shocked that Otep Shamaya is a woman, and had an intuition that she could shock people like that. Good intuition. Incidentally the tattoo across her ribs says "trust your gut"
So glad you reacted to this one. Fantastic stuff. Definitely recommend "Perennial" live at Wacken and if you want to do something not a lot have done check out "Destroy" Live Beastiarium. It's older and in a studio again. It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on how she has evolved plus you get to see Dreadlock Tati! There is a video for "Scissors" that is from around the same time as Destroy which is fun as well.
Again, I'll put in a request for Unleash the Archers - "Awakening" Full Band Playthrough. Would love to hear your thoughts on Brittney Slayes and the musicians.
I second the votes for Perennial and Awakening. I also just was introduced to Sleep Token but haven't seen a voice coach react to them. I think their singer's voice is remarkable and would like to hear some expert commentary on his technique. The Offering might be a good song of theirs to start with.
Oh, yes, a reaction on "Awakening" on this channel would be great. I guess there would be much appreciation for the insane amount of musicianship that is in there. And Brittney is a beast of power metal. She is the "power" in "power metal".
You can always tell when Tati is going heavy. Just before she does, she juts her jaw forward quite a bit (presumably to open her mouth and airway more). Christi even mentioned the "change in position". I first noticed it in a concert video a few years back and she still does it. Pretty cool. It's much easier to see in this post than any show footage. Stay safe everyone. Cheers.
Would be cool if you examined the musicianship of Devin Townsend. His performance of Kingdom for EMG TV made me fall in love like I did for Jinjer.
The rhythm of the song is the reggae count through the whole song if you really listen and count it like a drummer, it's themed differently for the different parts but the beat is the same.
I think Tatiana invented a new growl in that video 😳
You have an open mind, and you teach a lot! Great reaction Christi 👍 and you're right, criticism should always be constructive, so we learn something else 👌💜
Oh, I forgot, have a nice weekend 🧡👍
Tatiana the Demonic Goddess from South of heaven...🤪💀🎤. Awesome ....you Gona have fun with this one..ear holes🤪💀🔊 ready to burn .. reminder set . 💟🖤👌
Wow, mirror eyes and pearl white tombstones.
I don't normally entertain bands with growls/screams, but what Tatiana does compositionally, with not trying to fit in too many words thru those growled passages, along with remarkably clear annunciation "cutting thru" the growling as it were.... it's just so much clearer than any others I've heard. You can actually make out the majority of what she's saying (once your ears are accustomed) on first listen without having to immediately reach for the lyrics sheet. For me, what she does is *undeniable* - integrity is among the most important characteristics for me in musicians I listen to, & I 100% *believe* her when she's doing her thing. As you say, she absolutely is doing what she is supposed to be doing in this existence!
The other 3 musicians are also all excellent at what they do. The compositions, with their multi-movement epicness, often massively contrasting textures, and brain-engaging angular timings which they seem to be able to employ without losing groove (this is witchcraft as far as I'm concerned! LOL).... technical excellence all round without sacrificing *feel* is a heady mixture, and exceedingly rare. Over the last 18 months or so, they have become my new favourite current band.... which is all the more remarkable considering I've never previously bought an album from anyone with growls & screams!! :)
check out tomi joutsen / amorphis
She is a such a great singer beautiful woman. She's the goddess of metal... Aztec Pride
My grey haired voice love co, when you master the growl, for growl knows no age, legions of men shall fall at your feet.
It's a wolf on her neck. Love watching vocal coaches react. It's become a pastime of mine. Glad you got a good dose of Jinjer to know what you're talking about. It's fun watching shock value at first, then continuing down the Jinjer rabbit hole and appreciating causes me to Sub and Bell.
Looks like you are enjoying 😍🤟🏻🔥
Twelve Foot Ninja - Over and Out feat. Tatiana Shmayluk - (Official Music Video)
You are sooo a lovely Person. Thank you for this Video!
Can't wait!
And, what should I say..., don`t want to make somebody jealous.... O.k., maybe a bit, because...
I`ll see her and her guys on Tuesday!!!! Yeaaaah!!!
Spiritbox have done some of these one-take videos.. just saying ;)
Goodmorning everyone! :)
Good morning!
great reaction
Loved this. Thank you!
Please watch Perennial live by Jinjer.
Really loved your reaction. I love how Jinjer speaks to such a wide range of folks. Thank you.
Excellent reaction! Love Jinjer and Tatiana. You did an amazing breakdown, well worth the sub.
2:01 'she's like who I want to be when I grow up' you & me both even though imma guy hahaha :D
Goody on you for being open-minded to new, unfamiliar forms of musical expression, & being able to recognize & appreciate real talent. You're a class act.
Beautiful, powerful and very determined.
My favorite vocal coach online !
and still amazing analysis at the end, always very educative & nuanced,
and your tone is always warm and welcoming so it make us want to stay with you during the whole video!
Cheers from Canada !
This is the best review I've ever seen . And your talk on music being "safe" was dead on! Thank you for this . Cheers
Glade your back love how your open to metal music love your. In puts
Really enjoying your reactions and your insight. Jinjer really are awesome and Tatiana is amazing. Looking forward the video of you getting your tattoo😂
Best and most honest reaction from a vocal coach so far.
I love and appreciate what you said about this kind of music not being 'safe.' I totally feel the same way and I love how open you are to it.
Please check out Rule of Nines or Blessed Be by Spiritbox
Great recommendation. Artistically very interesting. Different, but just as awesome. Not technically as diverse, but a distinct own style that never fails to amaze me. JINJER and Spiritbox are *the* 2 most amazing discoveries in music of the last years for me.
@@imcrazedandconfused they are my 2 favourite bands.
Have you heard of Entheos, Vintersea and Monochromatic Black?
Check them out.
Entheos, Inverted Earth/Sunshift
Vintersea, Illuminated
Monochromatic Black, Phosphenes.
Thank me later
@@cooltechnician Vintersea and Monochromatic Black i have heard before, Entheos I will check out definitely. Thanks for recommendation!
@@cooltechnician Vintersea are one of my favourites. I love how Avienne varies her screams.
I just watched your last Jinjer reaction yesterday and was excited to see you had this one up today, I really enjoyed it! Was fun seeing you take in and explain your take on Tatiana's Amazing talent and personality up close - and maybe sensing a little developing Tatiana crush haha. She is a fascinating multi faceted magnet of a woman. Anyway, this is a great song with a great message by Tatiana -she writes 90% of Jinjers Lyrics) Keep up the good work and reactions, look forward to the next one ;-)
perennial live at wacken is a must see
I like your videos.
greetings from Andalucia, Spain
Check out Slaughter to Prevail - Demolisher :) the singer will definitely impress you with how much power his voice has.
Excellent reaction & review!!!
It's a tattoo of her voice box... :)
Good for you being so open minded. Music expands the soul.
Great review , I love your acceptance and your appreciation towards jinjers music , even though it’s clearly not what you normally listen to. They are certainly and amazing band
Thank you for reacting to Jinjer, greetings from Denmark
I greatly appreciate your review. You have an open mind and can actually provide an informative and personalized critique.
oooh this should be interesting :D this one take is amazing
It really is!
It really is!
@@TheVoiceLoveCo I love how she goes all Gwen Stefani on us. It's like going back to No Doubt's early days. Ahh, nostalgia..
Some of her tattoos. Right lower arm - Frida Kahlo face. left lower arm - Amy Winehouse face. Neck tattoo - dragon's face with an open mouth, whose fangs look like vocal folds
You are correct, growling uses false vocal folds for the distortion and you sing through it in a head voice or falsetto voice which sounds like screaming but it isn't. You can hurt your voice with it if you try to push your voice too hard or actually start real screaming through the technique just like you would with normal singing but you will notice even though the vocal effect sounds like it would be louder than normal singing its not. It's the same or sometimes even less loud. To achieve the harsh sounds seen here there is no vocal strain.
Yassss can't wait
I definitely enjoy seeing reactions like this from those that aren't usual metal listeners like myself. :)
That was one of the best vocal coach reactions I've seen in a while! You're knowledge (which starts at admitting what you don't know) combined with your open mind are very refreshing. I hit the sub button and will check out more of your stuff.
If I could make one request it would be to do a Courtney Laplante Live Vocal from Spiritbox. Personally I would start at The Beauty of Suffering. It's my favourite!
Oh Spiritbox and Jinjer fan! Awesome.. my favourite bands
There was a recent inteview with Tatiana where she said even with good technique it is possible to overdo it, and lose it, and have to rest and train back up.
i always learn something from your videos. and for someone who isint a huge fan of screaming, you bring a good perspective and try to always be fair in your approach. honesty is the key i think
mmmmmmmmm that ending was really good, i see what you did there >:)
I like the idea of you going for a full neck tattoo as your first tattoo. Great place to start.
I'll support this:
"Jinjer performing Perenial live at Wacken 2019 is definitely one that you should react to for live performance analysis.
For song writing and hearing more of Tatiana's range it would be cool to give "I speak astronomy" a listen." !!!!!
Great reaction Christi!!
She is awesome and as you said there are more women using this vocal technic, (Morgan Lander/kittie, Ángela Gussow/arch enemy, Alyssa White Gluz/the agonist, arch enemy etc,etc) but Tatiana's growling skills i think is the best, besides the support of the amazing musicians in the band, the lyrics and great atttitud makes Jinjer what it is
Thanks again for reacting to more Jinjer. Hope you love it! 🤘😁
That's so awesome.
I don't know if she's talked about her ink. I follow Lena from Infected Rain. On her channel bananas she talked about hers. Like you I'm fascinated with the ink work, but I don't have any myself.
I really appreciate YT because many of the artists give us that invitation into their lives like you were saying. I just watched a Napalm records upload of Sumo Cyco and they showed us their home and studio. It is an old church and it was so cool. ...🤔, I think Napalm uploaded that. 👋😁
...yeah, Sumo Cyco Napalm nextdoor the video is called. Really cool.
Because you asked; The throat tattoo is a picture of a Quetzalcoatl, the feathered Serpent from Aztec mythology. I have no idea about the other tattoos at all. I only know this because the question came up in an interview ( I love Jinjer and I like tattoos, but personally I am less interested in that interview wise, I'm more interested in how they end up making such amazing metal)