This was a very well done video. I especially like the fact you included the oscilloscope, current meter, volt meter, and frequency in digital. Testing on an RV is okay, but you could not fully load the generator with this method. It would be especially nice to see it under a load bank situation where you could push it to surge limits. Otherwise, very nicely done.
I have had the GM9000ied for a year and has been awesome thru both a 4 day and a recent 3 day blackout. Might upgrade to this as conversion kit to natural gase requires a lower gapped spark plug then gas/lpg as well as installing a separate part. Not impossible to undo but a pain if natural gas is out and have to do at night. The 3 way selectable fuel switch makes all the difference in an emergency.
Great test. It looks like that tiny blip near zero volts on your O-scope is a typical zero crossing of an IGBT based generator as the transistors trade duty. In my experience in very high quality IGBT inverters in the high speed rail industry, GenMax did not skimp. They are using tight, high quality transistors which speaks well of how long this generator will perform over long runs. I would love to see that 50 amp plug tested at capacity on your RV to truly simulate shore power of an RV resort power pole, but that requires a parallel of two of these generators, because with only one generator of this model, that 50 amp plug is current limited to 30 amps
3:35 Thanks for showing that I was wondering how you were able to make a distinction between natural gas and propane, the correct way is the separate way.
I have a propane line coming into my house from a 500 gallon tank. There is a regulator at the tank, and a second one at the house. There is a port for connecting a generator after that second regulator at the house. If I wanted to connect this generator to that port would I still use the regulator that came with the generator?
In one of your other videos, there was discussion about whether these Chinese built generators had an iron cylinder sleeve or a much cheaper and shorter lived aluminum one. No one seems to know which it is. So in thinking about this, I believe I may have a solution. In my shop I have a small magnetic pickup tool which could be inserted inside the cylinder after removing the spark plug, If it sticks to the cylinder wall, then the cylinder wall has iron in it and the unit is likely to have been built with the more durable iron sleeve. If it doesn't stick to the cylinder wall, it is likely made of the cheaper aluminum material with a much shorter wear life. I haven't done so yet but will check this out the next time the plug is going to be changed. Sound reasonable ????
@@cliffordwilliams8286 I know for a fact that the larger Genmax Trifuel 10500 has a steel sleave in the aluminum body for longer life. The smaller units I can't say
Nicely done video. I wish they would make it easier to check and/or add oil. Having to remove screws and a panel to access those important items is not a good design. And who actually makes the engine?
I understand that this generator is floating... Do I need to use the bonded plug that came with it during use or can I use any 50A cable/cord that works with the outlets made for generators? My cable has one of those spikes in the middle. Thanks.
When its connected to home or transfer panel, leave the bond plug out. When powering equiptment directly as a stand alone source, use the bond plug on the generator
Nice video. Just confirming. This generator is a floating neutral correct? I read one of the comments where the person said the bonded plug pops the gfci . But that would only be true if it was connect to the house and rhe plug is in correct? You would use the plug only when using as a stand alone nor connected to the house.
Yes, it's Neutral Floating. For easy bonding, make it perfect for home standby back up power easy connect the house. Using our special Bonding Plug(Sold seperately) to change the neutral floating to neutral bonded status for portable use.
Do you know if Genmax OEM produce the same generator marketed by TMG Industries here in Canada. I would like to buy one of these but conversions and shipping to Canada make them cost prohibitive. TMG offer this one or one very close to it for $2999 Canadian. Looking closely at it it would appear to be the same product
So people in Ca. we have to travel to another state to purchase any generator. It sucks, but doable. You add a hundred minimum to the purchase for the cost of travel. You know they guy who wrote that law has a very big whole mansion generator. Sucks to be the little people.
@@Moondoggy1941 As to that I can confirm Genmax is excellent. Even though my gen is a year out of the 1yr warranty they were quick to respond to emails and even returned calls when i left a voice message. They are mailing parts no charge. They have US customer service so I can vouch for them now from personal experience
@@keletienne7947 I live in Ca. about 50 miles from their warehouse, if I want to buy one, I have to have it shipped to my friends house in Az. and drive RT to get it. Thanks I will chose the GenMax brand.
Whether it’s Premium or Regular Unleaded gasoline, won’t matter if you’re concerned about longevity. Most gasolines in the U.S. have at least 10% ethanol and it’s the usually the ethanol component of gasoline which can potentially shorten the life of any generator. The reason is that water is miscible (or mixable) in ethanol, unlike the other petroleum distillates in gasoline, with which water does not mix. So leaving fuel with ethanol in the generator (or even a small amount in the carburetor), can lead to damage. If the generator is exercised regularly, you should be fine. I learned this the hard way and now try to use ethanol free fuel when exercising my generator. If you have a tri-fuel unit, why not just run it on nat. gas or propane and only use gasoline as a last resort?
i have a 6000 Ied today and it's awesome. I wish there was a trade in program so I can upgrade to this though. Maybe when the 6000 dies, I'll replace it with this. But the quality is really good, so I think I'm stuck with it for a while! :D
Nothing wrong with the scope: THAT'S THE WAVEFORM. I suspect they falsely advertise "CARB Compliant", because NEITHER Amazon nor Walmart will ship it to a California address. I'm going to wait for more reputable manufacturers to offer similar products.
This was a very well done video. I especially like the fact you included the oscilloscope, current meter, volt meter, and frequency in digital. Testing on an RV is okay, but you could not fully load the generator with this method. It would be especially nice to see it under a load bank situation where you could push it to surge limits. Otherwise, very nicely done.
I have had the GM9000ied for a year and has been awesome thru both a 4 day and a recent 3 day blackout. Might upgrade to this as conversion kit to natural gase requires a lower gapped spark plug then gas/lpg as well as installing a separate part. Not impossible to undo but a pain if natural gas is out and have to do at night. The 3 way selectable fuel switch makes all the difference in an emergency.
Great test.
It looks like that tiny blip near zero volts on your O-scope is a typical zero crossing of an IGBT based generator as the transistors trade duty. In my experience in very high quality IGBT inverters in the high speed rail industry, GenMax did not skimp. They are using tight, high quality transistors which speaks well of how long this generator will perform over long runs.
I would love to see that 50 amp plug tested at capacity on your RV to truly simulate shore power of an RV resort power pole, but that requires a parallel of two of these generators, because with only one generator of this model, that 50 amp plug is current limited to 30 amps
looks like it was pulling 50? or are you saying limited to 30 amp per leg?
3:35 Thanks for showing that I was wondering how you were able to make a distinction between natural gas and propane, the correct way is the separate way.
This is an awesome generator!
On the 10500 that bonding plug pops the gfi outlet. You need the bonding plug that connects to the l30 outlet
@daveglover8942 : Where can you obtain a bonding plug for the non-GFI NEMA 14-30L outlet so that this won’t be a potential issue ?
I have a propane line coming into my house from a 500 gallon tank. There is a regulator at the tank, and a second one at the house. There is a port for connecting a generator after that second regulator at the house. If I wanted to connect this generator to that port would I still use the regulator that came with the generator?
Very well-done and comprehensive video presentation of this unit. What can you say about their domestic customer service and product support?
Our portable generators come with a one-year limited warranty for recreational use from the purchase date that includes parts and labor.
In one of your other videos, there was discussion about whether these Chinese built generators had an iron cylinder sleeve or a much cheaper and shorter lived aluminum one. No one seems to know which it is. So in thinking about this, I believe I may have a solution. In my shop I have a small magnetic pickup tool which could be inserted inside the cylinder after removing the spark plug, If it sticks to the cylinder wall, then the cylinder wall has iron in it and the unit is likely to have been built with the more durable iron sleeve. If it doesn't stick to the cylinder wall, it is likely made of the cheaper aluminum material with a much shorter wear life. I haven't done so yet but will check this out the next time the plug is going to be changed. Sound reasonable ????
Did you ever test whether the cylinder wall was magnetic or not?
No not yet but I will.
watched Genmax youtube and think they have an aluminum sleeve
@@cliffordwilliams8286 I know for a fact that the larger Genmax Trifuel 10500 has a steel sleave in the aluminum body for longer life. The smaller units I can't say
@@TOURMANBOB Awesome. That is why I said think. Thank you for the Steel Sleave confirmation
Nicely done video. I wish they would make it easier to check and/or add oil. Having to remove screws and a panel to access those important items is not a good design. And who actually makes the engine?
I understand that this generator is floating... Do I need to use the bonded plug that came with it during use or can I use any 50A cable/cord that works with the outlets made for generators? My cable has one of those spikes in the middle. Thanks.
When its connected to home or transfer panel, leave the bond plug out. When powering equiptment directly as a stand alone source, use the bond plug on the generator
Where is the discount code????
Why doesnt duramax, westinghouse, champion, etc have a trifuel inverter generator close to 10kw?
Nice video. Just confirming. This generator is a floating neutral correct? I read one of the comments where the person said the bonded plug pops the gfci . But that would only be true if it was connect to the house and rhe plug is in correct? You would use the plug only when using as a stand alone nor connected to the house.
Yes, it's Neutral Floating.
For easy bonding, make it perfect for home standby back up power easy connect the house. Using our special Bonding Plug(Sold seperately) to change the neutral floating to neutral bonded status for portable use.
@@dinkingofficial7521 connecting to a house the main panel will be bonded thus the generator should be floating.
Does anyone know approximately how long one Full propane tank would last under a medium load. Or just on average.????
If I live in Az. and was camping in Ca. for 6 months can I purchase my unit from Az. and pick up in Ca.?
Do you know if Genmax OEM produce the same generator marketed by TMG Industries here in Canada. I would like to buy one of these but conversions and shipping to Canada make them cost prohibitive. TMG offer this one or one very close to it for $2999 Canadian. Looking closely at it it would appear to be the same product
Shame its not available in Australia...we just went through 3 days with no power due to a cyclone...
We are working on it. Please stay tuned with us for further updates!
Where can I buy a replacement battery for my 9000iedc. Battery died even when connected to a battery maintainer.
Does Genmax make a 7000 unit that is Tri Fuel?
you're planning to produce an European version?
Please I'm in ghana how can I get one to buy?
I just bought a GM10500iETC. I read the manual, filled it with oil, tried to start, and it won't start. Do you have any suggestions?
You had a Manuel? My manual was missing
I had to contact Gen max to get a copy mailed to me.
@@steffiejoeCan download as PDF free from their website, just FYI.
So people in Ca. we have to travel to another state to purchase any generator. It sucks, but doable. You add a hundred minimum to the purchase for the cost of travel. You know they guy who wrote that law has a very big whole mansion generator. Sucks to be the little people.
Is the Pulsar a good option vs this one? They look the same
Yea was looking at that as well - seems like a rebrand of the same product. Can’t find warranty info on their website though
To me it is all about CS, is there or not. Does someone answer the phone, all of this cost money, so it will drive up the price.
@@Moondoggy1941 As to that I can confirm Genmax is excellent. Even though my gen is a year out of the 1yr warranty they were quick to respond to emails and even returned calls when i left a voice message. They are mailing parts no charge. They have US customer service so I can vouch for them now from personal experience
It’s the same generator just branded differently.
@@keletienne7947 I live in Ca. about 50 miles from their warehouse, if I want to buy one, I have to have it shipped to my friends house in Az. and drive RT to get it.
Thanks I will chose the GenMax brand.
Can you put premium gas in these for longevity?
We will sincerely take your advice.
Ethanol free gas would be for longevity.
Whether it’s Premium or Regular Unleaded gasoline, won’t matter if you’re concerned about longevity. Most gasolines in the U.S. have at least 10% ethanol and it’s the usually the ethanol component of gasoline which can potentially shorten the life of any generator. The reason is that water is miscible (or mixable) in ethanol, unlike the other petroleum distillates in gasoline, with which water does not mix. So leaving fuel with ethanol in the generator (or even a small amount in the carburetor), can lead to damage. If the generator is exercised regularly, you should be fine. I learned this the hard way and now try to use ethanol free fuel when exercising my generator. If you have a tri-fuel unit, why not just run it on nat. gas or propane and only use gasoline as a last resort?
i have a 6000 Ied today and it's awesome. I wish there was a trade in program so I can upgrade to this though. Maybe when the 6000 dies, I'll replace it with this. But the quality is really good, so I think I'm stuck with it for a while! :D
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Nothing wrong with the scope: THAT'S THE WAVEFORM. I suspect they falsely advertise "CARB Compliant", because NEITHER Amazon nor Walmart will ship it to a California address. I'm going to wait for more reputable manufacturers to offer similar products.
I am pretty sure all small gasoline motors have been banned in Ca. regardless if they are CARB Compliant, it is not about the environment but control.
But they ship out of Ontario ca lol.