Good video but it does offend my OCD.... The middle spanner on the wall is hung the other way round to the others!!! Trying watching the video again..... You'll never un-see that spanner!!
I know!! Haha It bugs me daily! If it makes you feel slightly more at ease, they are in size order. That middle one is a 12mm one end and a 14mm the other and fits so many things that I cant stomach getting rid of it!!
I run a 1994 Ducati 900ss as a track bike and use these as a wet tyre. Simply stunning tyre. Not much power going through them about 75bhp, so I loose out on the straights, and then have confidence to play in the braking area and corners, A better tyre than I am a rider & still looking for the limit, with No Limits !
Love the bike choice! Sounds fantastic, they are amazingly sturdy in the wet which is so confidence inspiring! Nice to hear that someone puts them to the test on the track too
@@legerjl I bought the Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR's which were fitted to my Tracer 700 again. 6K mile review on the channel too if you're interested! I'll likely be fitting those, or similar to my Super Adventure S
I've had road 5's on my past 2 bikes (both Honda VFR's) since it came out and absolutely love the traction in both wet and dry. I've noticed a bit of a hum after break-in also around 30-33mph or 48-53kmh if running constant. Not sure if you've seen similar or if that's maybe my engine/gearing. I've largely laid down miles on VFR's (runs the same engine across gen's I've rode) but I can say these tires handle darn near anything other than ice, which they still almost did. Although my old fairings can argue. I will continue buying these as replacements as I put down a lot of miles and they just hold up and keep traction. Cheers!
Glad to hear! Yes they are a cracking tyre! May well be one for humming at 30mph odd. I wear custom fit eat plugs so they drown out the quieter drones etc so maybe they sing a little louder at speed which is when I notice it! Glad you're of the same opinion! Cheers and safe riding!
Hi. I just got my 1st taste of michelin road 5 tires. They are the best motorcycle tires . I haven't taken them out in the rain yet. I love ❤️ my tires.
Thanks for the video. How heavy is your bike or do you ride with side panniers? I ride a 2010 Stelvio NTX and it gets quite heavy with the bike, me, my lady, side and top panniers, like almost 500kg I think. I will aim for the GT version as they can hold more weight. Well I am still deciding on the tyres but the Road 5 or 6 are at the top of the list. Currently I have Mitas Terra Force R on.
The Michelin Road 5 is a massive improvement over the 4 particularly in regard to wear. They are fantastic tyres and made a significant improvement in the handling of my Honda CB 1300S
I hope they are a massive improvement on the Road 4's. My RT chewed up a rear on the Road 4 GT in 4200 miles !! Admittedly, that was hard riding fully loaded, but expected more out of the 4
Very impressed with your tidy work bench. I wish I had your flair for housekeeping. Can't even see my bench surface. You've made me plan a clear out. Liked the video and they will be my next tyres for sure.
Haha thanks! My garage is looked after more than the house (Well by me anyway... the other half would kill me if I said the house was messy!) Thanks for watching!
I have Pilot Road 4 on my FZ6. I've put maybe 5000 miles on them and a lot of canyon riding. Pretty great tire that feels happy being leaned over a good bit. I'll probably try the 5 when I'm ready for my next set.
4s were a great tyre! I found the 5s feel more solid leant over but a few people have said they aren't that settled when really pushing it so depends on your riding! Thanks for watching
@@SamVBikes It surprises me that I was able to buy new late-2019 date stamped Road 4 in early 2020 when the 5 has been out for about 3 years already. The 4 has treated me quite well, especially as a newer rider. Still manage to keep up with my friends on higher performance sport tires.
I agree! I have loved both the 4s and 5s. I assume the people that weren't impressed have a lot more years riding under their belts and were riding a lot harder
Great video, been hearing about those tires, I'm thinking about putting them on my 05' R1. People are seeming to really like them. Have a good day . Thank You for sharing Sir!
I have them on my 2020 zx10r. I have done many canyon runs and I have it on video. They handle OK but be warned, once they heat up alot they start to get very slippery. Don’t push too hard more than 15 minutes at a time.
Good review, Sam. Hi again. I watched this a couple months ago but didn't comment. My BMW RT requires the GT version, for a heavier bike, but I've been using the Road 5 GT since they became available. Love them! On my 608 lb R1200RT I get about 14,000 km (about 9,000 mi) out of a set. I've had no noise issues. Cheers.
Nice to have you back! I'm glad to hear you're liking them and getting decent mileage too! I think I might go back to them after these Scorpion Rallys have worn down. Ride safe
Yep I put these on my tracer 900gt after the crappy Dunlop’s wore down. Absolute confidence inspiring, I’ve done about 4000 miles on them so far & if I can get to 10,000 I’d be over the moon with that. Nice review.👍
@@SamVBikes ye I rave about them to everyone & a lot of mates have gone for them just on my say so & non were disappointed, recon Michelin should throw a set my way for the amount I’ve sold for them.😁👍
I put the Road 5 on my Tracer 900gt after 500km on the dangerous Dunlop tires. Wet grip was fantastic but no grip dry. Constantly fighting with wheel spin. Only lasted 6,000km. Switched to Bridgestone S22. Getting huge improvement in performance in dry and lasting twice as long.
@@cruisingthethaiway6881lol wtf. That's backwards as hell, youre getting double the life out of a road sport tyre than a sport touring tyre and you're using a sport tyre on a sport tourer which I assume you got for doing longer rides in comfort. I tried S22's on my mt09 and it's a great tyre that I recommend for sport bikes but not for its l9ng life, it's a sticky tyre but after trying the road 5 and having the read last 15,000km so far and I don't ride like a girl, I'd have to say the road 5 is overall a much better tyre with just as much grip that lasts longer.
I had Road 4 front and rear, replaced them with Road 5. Loved them. Im about to replace my rear tyre after 15,000Km on my 300kg FJR1300. I use the whole tyre, chicken strips don't exist :) The new tyre will be a Road 5GT
@@SamVBikes they definitely are! I'm glad I did swap tires out.. The front tire was wondering was worn and noisy. Now the bike is smooth and quiet besides for the exhaust I installed while the wheels were in the shop. Delkevic 18" stainless oval.
I recently got into riding, never knew what that notch in the tire was, the wear mark eh cool… I love learning something new every day thank you so much! My tire tread is the same, got a spare rim thing I’ll keep it for an emergency 🚨, plus gives me a reason to buy a new set (prior owner 2 different tires and it’s always bugged me lol)
Do you actually accelerate your bike my gs1250 rear road 5 has 5 thou on it and may do another 1000 but sounds horrible due to the tred lifting. This has also happened on my old explorer 1200. Before you ask i am nearly always two up and most of my milage is on twisty roads around the northeast and northwest.
My weekend rides are normally always on twisty back roads, accelerating pretty hard. Commuting in the city is normally a bit of hard acceleration to get away from the lights and avoid merging cars. I reckon 70% of my riding is city/commuting though. But having said that, my bike only has 75bhp, so my hard acceleration might not be anywhere near as taxing as yours. Hope that helps
Hi Sam thanks for the reply I put this comment to your video as I keep seeing people who get great mileage from there tyres I must be unlucky as mine never last that long. The Bridgestone tyres fitted to the bmw from new where totally gone at 5500 ml front and rear but felt really good. My Michelin front doesn't look worn at all after 5000 ml but has no feel to it ? Wet or dry. Hope you keep blogging and riding.
Its really odd isn't it! What surprises me more is that people in the UK buy exactly the same tyre but get vastly different mileages and wears out of them. Mind you, the off cuts manufacturer's put on their bikes from factory don't help with the figures! I was chatting with a subscriber before who mentioned there are different factories that the same tyres are made in so maybe thats another factor! Thank you for watching!
Hi Sam just thought I'd let you know I've just bought a pair of Dunlop Mutant tyre's for this year I am hoping for better things from them. Keep up the good work 👏
@@paulgibson490 Good to hear! Please do keep me updated with how you get on with them! I'm managed to chew through my Scorpion Rally STR's pretty quickly and interested in other options. Thanks for watching!!
Good review. Thanks for comparing the used to the new. Too many people saying you get about 6k miles out of the road 5s. My MT07 came stock with road 4s and they have lasted about 15k miles. Good to know I can get close to that with the road 5's. Cheers
Exactly, these assholes on Reddit are claiming no tire will go past 8k, yet I have almost 6k on my mt07 with road 5s that look brand new with no where near the TWI.
Hi Sam. I have a Ducati Monster 821 Stealth (2018). Which brand would you suggest me to go for….the stock tyres which are Pirelli Diablo Rosso 3 or Michelin Road 5…??
The road 5s will give you a shed load more grip in the wet and I much prefer them in the dry too. Rosso corsas are great when they are warm, but I don't rate them that much in normal conditions. Hope that helps!
Never tried the Michelin's but your review looks great. I really like the Continental Road attack 3's on my GS. Stable, progressive and very sticky not mention good in the wet.
Definitely recommend giving these a go if you're on the hunt for something new. You'd probably have to put the GT version on the GS. They are designed for the heavier/adv bikes. I've heard good things of the Conti's! Thanks for watching
Hahaha! It annoys me so much that it isn't the same!! But its the most useful wrench out of all of them... 12mm one side and 14mm the other... fits so many things
Perhaps there is certain circumstances for the vary mileage that contributes to the tire wear. Such a s suspension set up, tire pressure, weather and the compounds that react to the road surface.
Hi mate new to biking been riding now for about two years. Riding my Kawasaki Ninja 650 Next bike will be Kawasaki Z 900. Looking for new pair of tires as I’ve got budget Road sport 2 not very good in corners sometimes slips out. Horrible feeling Fantastic video and very well explained about the water channels.
Welcome! And thanks for watching! I've not heard great things about those Road Sport 2s so not surprised you're keen to get rid of them. These tyres will give you loads of confidence!
@@SuperGizzzmo Just replied to your other comment too. Have a shop around, but I've previously bought them from Blackcircles.com and TheVisorShop.com as they were cheapest including delivery. Normally around £30-50 to have them fitted at a local shop. Hope that helps
Hi. I bought a new 2022 sondors metacycle motorcycle, it cam with michelin road 5 tires. I love my mr5 tires. They feel so good on the road. Every other day I check the psi ,to make sure it's at 44 psi. Per tire. What psi do you inflate your tires at? Thanks.
Very interesting post! Im about to start to look for my next set of tires to my Honda Varadero. Present set is Metzeler Tourance Next, and now Im looking at MR5’s... But I would be curious what bike (or at least what kind of bike) you had theese tyres on, how if would compare to mine. I toggeled through some posts and didnt find it, so i figure I could ask. You got a lot of mile out of it and Id say there is plenty to go.
I had these fitted to my 2017 Yamaha Tracer 700 and my girlfriend has them fitted to her Honda NC750X. Really love the tyres, and they give you buckets of confidence in the wet too which is something we need in the UK! I haven't heard great things about the Tourance tyres. The feedback seems quite hit and miss. My dad had them on his Africa Twin and hated them. I would recommend these 100%
My MTN tyres has lasted apx 18000 km’s, and are not finished yet, but almost. My riding is commuting to work (now and then), longer touring (Swe-Nor and Swe-alps) and shorter touring (couple of hours up to days). I’m not skilled enough to give an evaluation of their characteristics dry/wet, but I’m so far very happy with them. Nevertheless I’m curious to try the MR5 to compare since you and others speak so highly of them. My area of Swe is probably almost as rainy as UK, I guess...
Its nice to hear someone that's getting on with them. I haven't tried them myself but would be interested to see how they ride. Although, like you said, I don't think I'm skilled enough to notice a massive difference yet!
hi I'm in southern France here in summer it's 30/37 degrees and the road5 is less good it loses grip when it's hot, less than 28 degrees super ok, finally I put road5 back and before power GP
Hello! That's really interesting to know, I guess they are designed more for winter. We aren't lucky enough to have those temperatures very often in the UK so never noticed that!
closing in on 13K miles on a rear on a MT10. Center tread is just starting to peel. Run Michelin's recommended tire pressure! I reckon I could've gotten even more miles if I did.
@@SamVBikes 100% agreed. I am more than happy with the road 5. I've tried Conti Sport Attacks, OEM Bridgestone S21F/R on this particular motorcycle and they've all floated around 5-7K tops in terms of mileage. Even Dunlop Q3, Metzeler M7RR (although classified in another category) reached approximately 6K on 600 supersports. Nothing compares to the value one can get out the Road 5s. Great all weather grip, 0 warm up required, 1 less tire mount/balance money as well as time cost. I stock up on this tire whenever I can. However I do run a Power RS in the front as I personally prefer more perceived grip on the front, nothing wrong with the Road 5 fronts as I have not tried it yet.
Very good points! The power 5 front is a cracking idea too! I tend to do a lot of research before opening the wallet and I'm so glad I did with these! Thanks for watching
I bought a brand new rear Road 5 about a month ago as the original Pirelli on My Triumph Speed Twin only ran 3800 miles before metal banding exposed in the center. Two days after fitting I caught a #%@$ nail in the new tire. I used the spear type plug and it holds air and I've ridden it hard a few times since, but i have the nagging worry in my mind that it's going to kill me. I'm planning to get a new full set unless somebody tells me not to be such a knob. Am I a knob!
AHHH Gutted for you! That's the biggest kick in the twins! I use the mushroom type plugs and ran my first set of PR5's with 2 plugs in the rear for the last 6 months of it's life. They survived with no air leak at all! As long as you're not pulling some Valentino type manoeuvres, I'd lean toward saving your cash until you need to replace both... that's if you trust your repair haha! Thanks for watching
Hello Nick! Watch Ryan F9. In one of his latest posts he talks about different tyre ”repairs”... I think you can get a lot of milage if you choose a good repair!
Total agree had pilotroad 3 hated them. Wasn’t going to go back to Michelin road again . Put PR5 on street triple even on track good May of slightly over heated on track . But long lasting quick turning tyres . Will have to change the super duke 200 to 190 to fit them next as max size on sport touring is 190.
How good is their traction and grip, and warmup? Eso for very aggressive riding and high speed low angle curves? Are they sticky enough? I have zero need or concern about rain. I'm currently using Battlax S22's and love them. Also loved Pilot POWER 2.
Sorry only saw your other comment! Warm up seems to be very quick, but even cold I've never had any worry about them slipping etc. They are sticky enough but if you are running S22s, you might be more interested in the Power 5's. They have the benefits of these but more designed for sports bikes. Pilot road 5's are designed more for sports touring so have more longevity in mind etc. Hope that helps!
@@SamVBikes thx but I wonder what the actual limit in grip is with the Pilot roads, esp since "sport touring is still sporty enough for great traction, and compared to Power 5s. And I researched a lot and found many more great reviews for the S22s and not very much for the Power 5s
On a dry day, I've never been able to find the limit with my riding. I can lean as far over as I'm comfortable on my bike and they hold really well. The s22 and similar are for those people who are more skilled than I am! I think they are a lot stickier leant further over for the track. If you ride quick, and arent worried about mileage/touring at all, get the s22 I'd say
@@SamVBikes what type of road surface are you riding with low lean angles? I'm pretty certain there's one that I question would not give much traction esp when wet.
@@justaguy4real Normally just the back roads in the UK. So windy country 'B' roads. I never track my bike and when riding on the road, I wouldn't feel confident getting my knee down with the amount of traffic, stones and general sh*t on the roads!
I had 4s from factory.. loved them! Definitely recommend the 5s. Noticed the 4s tended to lean to a point then drop away. Dont know if you've found the same
É muito bom. Muito melhorado desde o PR4. Desculpe, eu usei um tradutor para responder sua pergunta porque eu não falo português Eu espero que faça sentido! Obrigado
I just got a sport touring bike (97 Kawasaki ZG1000 Contour). I have hade Commander III's on my cruiser and have been pleased. But have been leaning into (pun intended) getting Pilot 5's for this bike. This video settles it!
I had these on a Versys 650. I got about 8k kms out of them. 80% mountain roads. I mean, sure the temperature and weather are a factor, considering here in southern europe it's much more sunny and hot in the summer, but still... How can you make'em last double the kms?
If there is one thing I've learnt from this video, it's that people are getting huge variances just from where they buy the tyres from etc. I assume something to do with the factory conditions. So many people are using the same tyres on similar bikes and getting 6000kms, and others are getting 25000kms! A lot of my riding is commuting In and out of the city so it's not all hard riding. My more spirited riding is normally only in the summer and at the weekends so I guess you could say I ride in a way that would promote tyre preservation. Sorry I couldn't give a better solution!
Hi Sam sorry it taken a long time, right Avon 3d ultra evo tyre report warm up quickly cornering grip is excellent even though they weren't scrubed in fully so I would imagine give them a few more miles the grip will be fantastic, handling very pridictable no sudden surprises I had tyre pressure at 36/42 and at £180 for the pair brilliant value for money.
No worries on the wait! Happy you came back to update so thank you for that! They sound great! And you're right, 180 for the set is a bargain. Will be interesting to see how long they last too!
You don't have cupping on the sides. I dunno if mine are doing that because they're not inflated properly or if it's because I ride quite quick on the street but they aren't melting like they would on the track but mine have 15,000km on them which is under 10,000 miles and they have a sanded effect on the sides down to my strips
Thinking about throwing this beasties on my MT07 next. Can also recommend the „Metzeler roadtec 01“ insanely grippy, fast heating, water conditions stable, long lasting pair, 150 kmh into the nasty ice-rain- handled as a champ, but it was scary as f#! :D
Have had poor results on my Ducati MTS with all versions of Michelin Road. Rear done by 8500 km and front massively cupped. I’m not an overly aggressive rider. All highway. Just don’t match well with my bike.
Interesting to hear. Sorry you've had a bad experience! The most interesting thing that has come from creating the video is hearing how different everyone's experience is!
Advice please guys. I love Pilot Road 4 & 5s. Have then on my other bikes and are great in the wet and acceptable in the dry. Now, I have a new Pirelli Angel GT mk 1 on the rear of my 2017 Triumph Thruxton non R. I’m thinking of going Pilot Road 5 on the front for wet grip. I know you shouldn’t mix tyres but I fancy the extra grip on the front for when it’s wet. Good idea or bad idea?
Good question! I've ridden a bike before with mismatched tyres... same brand but different model. Only noticed when I got off and checked the tyres because it felt so odd! I hated the fact that the front felt like it was lacking grip compared to the rear which is why I'd assume people say don't mix tyres. The only time I would personally mix them would be if it was off road tyres, like the TKC70 and TKC70 Rocks. I'd worry that if the front gripped really well, you would have more confidence in the corners, but the rear wouldnt have the same level of grip and you would potentially low-side. Happy to be corrected though!
Sam Vincent Thanks for your answer Sam. I think you make a good point about potential low sides although in the dry the Angels are probably grippier than the P5s. In the wet I tip toe around anyway and would be putting in minimal lean angles.
@@volt7cooltangs701 No problem! You're right! It's a difficult one but I guess as long as you aren't reliant on them at high speed or riding the bike hard, you should be okay! And it's not like you are buying cheap budget tyres!
Front seemed to be solid regardless of the weather. Pushed really hard they started to be a little soft leant over but I wouldn't stick these on a bike that is going to be relying on being leant over a long way with constant abuse. Found no uneven wear at all but assume that's down to running correct pressures and checking regularly
I was going for these but my new (used) CBR650R came with Conti Sportattack3 which is turning out phenomenal, I'm waiting to see how they deal in the winter and just-above-freezing temperatures with my next change due in the spring. So far 8-9.000 km on the SA3 and no significant wear even done double up 2000km this summer. Have you ever tried them? To compare to P5's? This decision between SA3(new SA4) and P5's is tearing me months in advance
Good to hear! I have heard good things about the SA3's. I haven't personally tried them. Essentially, when it came to renewing.. I did a LOT of research and the tyres that kept coming out top were the PR5s and the Metzler Roadtec 01 (now superseded by 01 SE). A friend has the 01s and loves them too but I think the PR5s look a bit more menacing, plus mileage claims seem to be better!
@@SamVBikes Similar experience when it comes to research - I am a bit wary of this due to Michelin having a generally larger and more powerful marketing/PR than Continental (especially in Europe). But nearly everyone praises the PR5's for being an amazing all-rounder. Well, the winter will decide the previous Dunlop was a plastic deathtrap on the 3C commute in January and trying to brake on a road marking was as good as ice, hope these hold up better and just might swing me in Conti's way when spring comes around the corner.
@@Valks-22 To be honest, I've not really heard anything negative about the Conti's, Michelin or Pirelli. Dunlop on the other hand! I've ridden once on the way home from work after a heavy snowfall. Was pretty slushy and generally awful after the vans and lorries had mushed it up. I dont think many tyres would handle it well, but the PR5s did an admirable job of keeping squeaky bum time to a minimum! Early morning frosts/icey starts have just surprised me... thinking you're going to slide but nothing happens which is lovely! Would be interested in hearing your thoughts on the Conti's once you've done a winter on them. (Obviously If you can find this video in so many months time!!!)
@@SamVBikes I will do my best to come back with some feedback in a few months - reckon by late November/December it will be tested. My cut-off for motorcycle is when it dips below 3-4C just because it gets too cold to manage or there is heavy dew / snow in the morning. Mainly due to a lot of tramlines and bridges that tend to flash freeze at those temps and no tyre will help. Always hard to take those +45mins on my daily commute but heated seats in a car do have some pros in that weather :D
Appreciate that! Haha yes! Heated seats and a car would be lovely. Personally I'd rather stick the heated gloves on than pay London prices for driving my car in and parking but I definitely would join you on that otherwise! Thanks for watching!
Not having a go , besides the grip my only last 4500kms ( the rear ) the sides basically peeled of in corners on my 1130 Trek Benellli. I found the best rear Michelin was the pilot 4 GT rear got about 10,000kms out off it - no peeling and grip wasn’t much different. Fronts the 4s and road 5,s sculp out BAD at the front ( the 3 was the best front ) now my choice of tyre is the Dunlop roadsmart 3/4 traction just as good if not better than road 5 ( and WAY longer life probably around 15,000 kms - with my nuts 🥜 riding . and rear Metzler Roadtec 01 rear ( hooks 🪝 up ⬆️ like a Bitch. But only around 6000km wear - but doesn’t square off , unless you ride motorways all day long or ride like an old woman. ( obviously I only fit tyres that will stick in the wet as well ) , I guess one consideration is our road surfaces in Australia 🇦🇺 are abit rough in some areas.
putting a rear road 5 on my 1000cc supersport (it EATS rear tires) Do you think I'll be able to get at least 3k miles out of these? My last tires are rosso III's in fact I haven't even worn my front enough to justify changing it out for the rosso my rear tire (rosso III) is done after not even 2k miles the middle is almost showing cords but not quite there The performance was spectacular......if I had 200+ bucks to shell out for tires every other month i'd stick with them but I don't lol
I'd like to think you should get 3k miles at least. My bike is 160bhp and really torquey so a 1000cc sportsbike shouldn't be too different at eating them. If you're riding them hard, you might find they move too much. They are a sport touring tyre so hard canyon riding, you'd want something like the Power 5 or GP
so, you're using these on the big KTM adventure bike and you're perfectly happy with the wear and performance? I am asking because I'm looking into these for another heavy bike, the R 1200 GSA.
I used these previously on my Tracer 700, not on the Super Adventure yet unfortunately. Having said that, I've ridden these on 220kg+ bikes and they perform very well, and also on bikes like a Street Triple RS too. I'd go for the Road 5 Trial I think they are called which are the ones with a stronger carcass for the heavier bikes.
I use the bike for commuting and touring, with spirited rides in the summer at the weekend. Not absolutely pinning the throttle away from lights helps a lot. And running the correct tyre pressures
Had a set of the road 5’s on my K12RS. The rear tire was the best I ever had on my bike but the front tire was the worst. Not sure why but that’s my experience with this tire. Val
I wonder if its to do with the bikes weight. A few people have said similar things with heavy bikes. They do the GT version which is designed for heavier bikes, not sure if that will be much better. Thanks for watching!
I'm not surprised! Although I think that's the purpose of the GT version they released. They have a stronger sidewall for the bigger bikes so those might work better
They are excellent tyres but my rear is done at 7000 miles (second set similar mileage) so I’m jealous you’re getting that kind of mileage - V Strom 1000 solo riding, I’m not thrashing the nuts off it either (I’m getting too old for that shite) great review 👍
Do you know anyone that has run the Angel GT II's? I hear that they're a close competitor to the Road series. My VFR is due for new shoes and I'm going back and forth between these two.
I don't unfortunately. I hear they are a good tyre but haven't tried them. The main reason I went for these over the Angel's/roadtec 01's was due to the range. Might give the Angel's a go after my Scorpion Rallys wear out. I dont think you'll be disappointed with either
@@SamVBikes Ive had all 3 on my 2014 VFR (Now have a 2020 VFR) initially had the Road 5 (7.5k) but found I wore the shoulders out front and back, then had the Angel GT2s(8.5k), great tyre but lacked the confidence the Roads give, then tried the Metzler SE01, only got 4k out of them as traded in for the new bike but thet were as good as the GT2s. When its time to change the shite stocks, ill be going for the Road 5 but keeping a close eye on tyre pressures as got cupping at about 5k
I had the road 5 and now the angel 2 on my bike. The road 5 are good but they wear very bad on powerfull motorcycles. Result is very low milage(front and back). The angel2 are equal in terms of grip and (for me even better) confidence on the road. But they wear very evenly and already surpassed the mileage of the road 5 and I have still more mileage to go.
Have these on my Speed Triple and VStrom 1K, very different bikes. But! These things improved both bikes handling, ride and grip in all conditions. Wearing exceptionally well. Highly recommend, as well. 6s are out now and are supposed to be further improved. When needed, I'll most likely be getting those, but won't overlook the 5s again, specially if the prices make them more attractive.
Nice to hear they work on all kinds of bikes! I've just fitted the 6s to my Super Adventure so looking forward to seeing how they are. So far, they handle just as well as the 5s. Tyres suddenly become something you don't need to worry about anymore!
@@SamVBikes Hey, I realize this is a year old comment, but if you guys happen to read this, the Road 5's are currently on sale, saving about $40-50 USD per tire. Is it worth the $80-100 savings or are the 6's that much of an improvement to go ahead and spring the extra cash? Asking as a broke young adult lol.
I was using 33psi front and 36psi rear. Went up a few psi when the bikes loaded up. That was based on the bikes recommended pressures. Hope that helps!
These are regular. I believe the only difference between them is that the GT's come in adventure bike sizes (21 front, 17 rear etc) and primarily designed for the heavier bikes like GS's and K1600's etc
I use the bike for commuting and touring, with spirited rides in the summer at the weekend. I guess the early morning dull commuting squeezes more life out of them!
Thx for the review I guess I don't know how to ride as I can't get more than 3k miles from mine on the side tread but they have way more tread in center than yours at 11k miles when done, Angels, Pilots, and Q3s don't last as long as PR5s on my Mutley PP. YMWV.
Haha! I might be too soft on my cornering! Most of my riding is commuting and a bit of motorway, so not particularly hard on the tyre. If you're using yours mainly for spirited rides I guess they won't last anywhere near as long
Haha no, on my Tracer. Not the most powerful bike in the world, and was used for commuting, touring and weekend B-road blasts so not exactly taxing. A few people have had way more miles out a set commuting
i had them under my s1000xr. 4300 miles rear tire and front tire completely worn out. so you have to explain to me how to do 11500 miles with a tire and still be good, or you only had to drive in 1st and 2nd gear
I commute 25miles each way into London each day (mix of motorway, A-road and London traffic), weekend spirited rides but had 2 sets on the bike and both had similar mileage along with others getting 10k plus regularly on forums. XR has double the power of my bike though so that may have something to do with it! Your spirited riding might put mine to shame too though!
Don't wanna sound like a twat but you either got "Power 5" or you got some knock off tyres cos these tyres have done 12k on my S1000XR before being spent and over 14k on my Ninja 650, both used for commuting, touring, twisties and some trackdays. They hold their own on track so I literally have no reason to buy any other tyre. The power 5s were DONE in 4k miles even on my 650
@@AntaresSQ01I used my roads 5 for a vacation trip and then I just drove them on. 7000km on the head, front and rear tires were worn together. I loved them because they are very good in the rain, on holiday you never know that you will get a few days of rain meanwhile I have power 5 rear tire on the multistrada 1260S, 5000km and the rear tire was completely worn out
I've always bought them online and then had them fitted or fitted them myself. By far the cheapest option. Have a shop around, but I've previously bought them from Blackcircles.com and TheVisorShop.com as they were cheapest including delivery. Normally around £30-50 to have them fitted at a local shop. Hope that helps!
These ones aren't but I think they are basically the same. The GT versions are built for the heavier bikes (like an RT, GS or similar) so think it's just a slightly stronger sidewalls etc. Hope that helps
I had these tires on my R6 prior to selling it and they lasted 8k miles and still had plenty of life left. Just bought a ninja 400 and got the road 5's for hat because they were so great. Grip was unrivaled compared to the Q3's and Pilot 2CT's I had prior. S22's would be the only other tire id say were comparable. Wanted to get the Road 6 but not in stock anywhere for the Ninja 400 stock size. boo..... But, maybe in 12k miles. lol.
@@SamVBikes My buddy said he got 7k on his Ducati which was enough to convince me on the Road 5 as the Pilot 2CT's only lasted 4k miles before the wear indicators were showing. Please do let me know (Or make a review) on the Road 6. They boast better grip and life and would Definitely love to see that.
Yeah they seem to wear really well. I'd assume these will wear quickly in the middle on my new bike because of the power, but hopefully will still get good mileage! Will make a review when I get further into them
I’m running brightstone s21 get about 6k . Good tire I’m reluctant to go back to pilot roads had the PR3 veryone raved about them but I hated them didn’t slip but didn’t push them either felt vaguely connected to the road . The PR5 are base on the RS tire so maybe time to try again
I reckon the S22 might be better if you're wanting something to really throw around but these are great tyres. My mate has just put a set on his Street Triple RS and loves them. Much prefers them for road riding to the OEM Rosso Corsa's
@@SamVBikes hi yes right they more hot weather / track sport riding . Tyres have gone even higher in price so don’t want to stuck with wrong again . I given them ago close call with s22 the s21 not bad on mileage , think PR5 will worth a gamble Thanks
@@marksmith8663 Definitely! I've had 2 sets of PR5's and have loved both so I don't think you will regret the purchase! Plus they last a lot longer which helps with the money!
I got less than 4000 miles on my Super Duke 1290 R and wasn’t riding like a maniac. Sticks very well to the road but was disappointed by how fast they were gone.
I'd assume your bike would still munch through them more even whilst not riding fast... SDR has a casual 100bhp more than my bike haha! It's crazy to see how different sets of tyres last, even being the same brand/model
It was a 2017 Tracer 700 commuting, weekend rides and touring. Easily could have got another 1k miles out of them too. I had 2 sets of Road 5s, one lasted 11.5k, the others were around 10k before I swapped them out for some more off road friendly tyres. It is possible on some bikes, and if you're not riding them hard all the time. A few people are reporting nearly 20k miles out of a front!
@@SamVBikes thanks for your answer. I think the 700 cc make a big difference, I drive a Super Duke which torque is just through the roof. And also we have a lot of twistys which let you de- and accelarate al the time. 20k is just insane :D But there you see, its an awesome tire!
Haha yeah! My new bike is a 1290 Super Adventure.. I doubt I'm going to get anywhere near that mileage haha! It's a great tyre so far for the confidence and wet weather grip if nothing else!
@@SamVBikes Awesome, the Adventure is amazing. I can totally confirm what you said about the confidence the tyre provides. I have been in the Black Forest last weekend and did not slip one time. Neither in the wet nor dry. And I was really riding that tyre down to the edge.
Thank you! Loved the SDR but tour quite a bit, so just bought that engine with more weight and wind protection! 😂. Black Forest is an amazing place to ride, need to get back there for sure!
Haha! It was a Tracer 700 commuting and doing a few tours etc so nothing crazy. I've got Road 6's on my Super Adventure S at the moment and I reckonn I'll get 6k miles out of them
Are the MT60RS' the scrambler looking tyres? I'm sure I read somewhere that they don't last very long because they are made to look good rather than last, so the tread is quite low. Might be worth looking at some Michelin Anakee Adventure's if you want something a bit more off road bias with more life. The Scorpion Rally STR's have been pretty good so far
@@SamVBikes Not at all, I bought them for their excellent wet weather performance. To be fair the KTM is a single with huge torque pulses which shreds most tyres. Supermoto riders use the MT60RS as a rain tyre on tracks, they are really that good......hit a wet patch leaned over and they track just as if you were on the dry....the point is that they're soft, because soft is grippy and that's why they wore quickly. I like to use the edges a lot too because I pay for that rubber and I don't want to see it go to waste ;) I live in Scotland so I need to buy a tyre to suit the average conditions of cold and/or wet. I look at reviews for wet weather performance and can quickly eliminate 70% of all tyres, then I check individual reviews for what's left. When I was a despatch rider I bought tyres based on reports of long life, but then paid the price for having low grip levels on cold wet cobble stones in Edinburgh. Now it's all leisure riding I buy for performance and don't mind short life if the pleasure level is high :)
@@chrisbarron5861 Ahh nice to hear! I know a lot of people are buying those kind of looking tyre because they look great on the scrambler bikes but good to hear you're actually looking at performance! These tyres are fantastic in the wet too and general performance. Fitted them to my girlfriends bike in place of some old Metz Tourance's she had before and she is so much more confident in the wet and on cold days. Although I know the Tourance's have a bad rep so that could have happened with any decent tyre. I think the only down side is if you are really pushing it, they can squirm a bit leant over far, but I never really get to that point as I dont track my bike (bit pointless on a Tracer haha).
@@SamVBikes I don't mind squirm if it happens, much better for them to start squirming than simply letting go catastrophically in my opinion. Don't underestimate the Tracer. The -07 is an awesome machine and in one group I ride with there's a lad who goes all the way around the outside of me on corners, leant all the way over, confidently. The Tracer -09 can do it...I also ride a TDM900 and I run all the way up to the edge of the tyre, Michelin Pilot Power 2CT. Honestly , all of these tyres are very high end and most riders will give up their efforts long before the tyres will, particularly in the dry. I never felt confident on Metzelers, so I get what you're saying about your girlfriend feeling more confident. To help with confidence you can do a lot worse than going to a police 'BikeSafe' course. Getting an interpretation of what distinguishes sensible from foolish, from the police point of view, is really helpful bikesafe.co.uk/
Exactly! Almost like a gentle reminder that you're riding like a tool haha! Better than the Pilot Road 4's too, as they leant over confidently then suddenly dropped which was a pretty awful experience! Nice! I was planning on getting a few courses in over the last year or so but obviously havent been able to. Planning on getting a few off road days in too (like the Ady Smith and Mick Extance ones). Found that learning how the bike can move underneath you, and how to control that helps to limit the panic reaction if something slips and you're not expecting it. Will definitely give the Bikesafe one a go too once we are allowed outside!
I ride kaw concourse 14, 8k total miles on the bike, on my 3rd set of tires, 2nd set road 5's, bike's a toy! Never have ridden w the bags, bike's rock steady full lean! ...or what seems "full lean", how do you really know. Hmm Shop tire guy commented, "you really know how to ride that thing". btw- not really, usually close my eyes and pray! ...and here I still am. 🙏
@@SamVBikes Road5 Story Summer evening on a familiar back road, approached a favorite curve at speed, had a little scare. It was perfect conditions, except for the invisible Farm fertilizer, both tires lost traction...regaining uneventfully! All the self-talk "hold like a baby chic", payed off. Lol
@@grandpa7278 haha! Glad you managed to save that, rear wheel isn't that worrying but feeling that front end slide has to be one of the worst feelings!
@@SamVBikes In my youth on the farm rode ATC's, 3-wheelers, had always looked back fondly of them. So, bought a used 660 Raptor, big mistake, dislocated my shoulder, hurt way more then Ouch. It's a Beast I've slowed down since then, falling down isn't what I remembered as a youth.
@@grandpa7278 I agree, I used to ride a lot of motocross when I was younger. Falling off was a brush off, and get back on with it.. but now it's days of aching! haha
Depends what you use the bike for! If you want a sport touring tyre, the Michelin Road 6 are great. If you're looking for a more sporty tyre - Conti Road Attack 3's are meant to be great. If it's all out sports tyre, maybe something like a Pirelli Supercorsa or Bridgestone S22?
@@SamVBikes ok, I started running 40 42 and I've gotten better mileage out of my tires, but never gotten more than 6500 miles out of a tire. I've always ran the Angel GT, but I've been debating on trying a set of Road 5's.
Sounds good! I tried running slightly higher pressures in my original PR4s but found the tyres hummed more at motorway speed which annoyed me haha! Same thing happened when I fitted the Rally STRs to my bike recently. Will be interesting to see if they do last longer with higher pressure though
"They are getting low"? wtf that still has tons of life as the marker is still really deep, also how you can get 11k miles on a rear tyre? you riding at 50mph and accelerating like my grandmas wheelchair?
I agree, the PR4s weren't incredible. I found they dropped after a certain lean angle which really didn't help with the confidence! Havent tried the Avons yet
Good video but it does offend my OCD.... The middle spanner on the wall is hung the other way round to the others!!! Trying watching the video again..... You'll never un-see that spanner!!
I know!! Haha It bugs me daily! If it makes you feel slightly more at ease, they are in size order. That middle one is a 12mm one end and a 14mm the other and fits so many things that I cant stomach getting rid of it!!
Don't sweat the small shit bro!
😂😂😂😂😂😂 you need me both first thing I noticed
2nd to end on right should be on end as its longer😊
Yo, send me that rear tire, I can get another 5k out of that bad boy!
I run a 1994 Ducati 900ss as a track bike and use these as a wet tyre.
Simply stunning tyre.
Not much power going through them about 75bhp, so I loose out on the straights, and then have confidence to play in the braking area and corners,
A better tyre than I am a rider & still looking for the limit, with No Limits !
Love the bike choice! Sounds fantastic, they are amazingly sturdy in the wet which is so confidence inspiring! Nice to hear that someone puts them to the test on the track too
@@SamVBikes So, what did you install that are "..little more off-road oriented" ? And on what type of bike?
@@legerjl I bought the Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR's which were fitted to my Tracer 700 again. 6K mile review on the channel too if you're interested! I'll likely be fitting those, or similar to my Super Adventure S
just put a new set on my XSR 900 and I love them.I hope to get that kind of mileage out of mine!! Great video.
Enjoy them! You won't be disappointed!
I've had road 5's on my past 2 bikes (both Honda VFR's) since it came out and absolutely love the traction in both wet and dry. I've noticed a bit of a hum after break-in also around 30-33mph or 48-53kmh if running constant. Not sure if you've seen similar or if that's maybe my engine/gearing. I've largely laid down miles on VFR's (runs the same engine across gen's I've rode) but I can say these tires handle darn near anything other than ice, which they still almost did. Although my old fairings can argue. I will continue buying these as replacements as I put down a lot of miles and they just hold up and keep traction. Cheers!
Glad to hear! Yes they are a cracking tyre! May well be one for humming at 30mph odd. I wear custom fit eat plugs so they drown out the quieter drones etc so maybe they sing a little louder at speed which is when I notice it! Glad you're of the same opinion! Cheers and safe riding!
Hi. I just got my 1st taste of michelin road 5 tires. They are the best motorcycle tires . I haven't taken them out in the rain yet. I love ❤️ my tires.
23000km and still running perfectly..........suzuki sv 650 2017
Nice! Good effort! Great tyres aren't they
Fantastic tyres dry and 🌧️.... I will buy them again
Wow 23000 ks
I get between 7 and 9000 ks
How do you make them last
Great tyres eh
Thanks for the video. How heavy is your bike or do you ride with side panniers? I ride a 2010 Stelvio NTX and it gets quite heavy with the bike, me, my lady, side and top panniers, like almost 500kg I think. I will aim for the GT version as they can hold more weight. Well I am still deciding on the tyres but the Road 5 or 6 are at the top of the list. Currently I have Mitas Terra Force R on.
The Michelin Road 5 is a massive improvement over the 4 particularly in regard to wear. They are fantastic tyres and made a significant improvement in the handling of my Honda CB 1300S
I agree! The 4s had a habit of dropping after a certain lean angle which really knocks your confidence in them!
I hope they are a massive improvement on the Road 4's. My RT chewed up a rear on the Road 4 GT in 4200 miles !! Admittedly, that was hard riding fully loaded, but expected more out of the 4
Very impressed with your tidy work bench. I wish I had your flair for housekeeping. Can't even see my bench surface. You've made me plan a clear out. Liked the video and they will be my next tyres for sure.
Haha thanks! My garage is looked after more than the house (Well by me anyway... the other half would kill me if I said the house was messy!) Thanks for watching!
I have Pilot Road 4 on my FZ6. I've put maybe 5000 miles on them and a lot of canyon riding. Pretty great tire that feels happy being leaned over a good bit. I'll probably try the 5 when I'm ready for my next set.
4s were a great tyre! I found the 5s feel more solid leant over but a few people have said they aren't that settled when really pushing it so depends on your riding! Thanks for watching
@@SamVBikes It surprises me that I was able to buy new late-2019 date stamped Road 4 in early 2020 when the 5 has been out for about 3 years already. The 4 has treated me quite well, especially as a newer rider. Still manage to keep up with my friends on higher performance sport tires.
I agree! I have loved both the 4s and 5s. I assume the people that weren't impressed have a lot more years riding under their belts and were riding a lot harder
Great video, been hearing about those tires, I'm thinking about putting them on my 05' R1. People are seeming to really like them. Have a good day . Thank You for sharing Sir!
Thank you! Definitely out-performed my expectations!
I have them on my 2020 zx10r. I have done many canyon runs and I have it on video. They handle OK but be warned, once they heat up alot they start to get very slippery. Don’t push too hard more than 15 minutes at a time.
Good to know! If I was fitting to a sports bike I reckon I'd give the Power 5s a go instead
Good review, Sam. Hi again. I watched this a couple months ago but didn't comment. My BMW RT requires the GT version, for a heavier bike, but I've been using the Road 5 GT since they became available. Love them! On my 608 lb R1200RT I get about 14,000 km (about 9,000 mi) out of a set. I've had no noise issues. Cheers.
Nice to have you back! I'm glad to hear you're liking them and getting decent mileage too! I think I might go back to them after these Scorpion Rallys have worn down. Ride safe
Nice review. The hum is kind of an added bonus as a reminder to check tire pressure
Haha very true! An annoying nudge to tell you to maintain your bike haha
Can you explain to me this hum thingy? I didn't understand how it works or what it is. English is not my first language thanks
Yep I put these on my tracer 900gt after the crappy Dunlop’s wore down. Absolute confidence inspiring, I’ve done about 4000 miles on them so far & if I can get to 10,000 I’d be over the moon with that. Nice review.👍
Thank you! They are cracking tyres and I basically recommend them to anyone even if they don't ask haha!
@@SamVBikes ye I rave about them to everyone & a lot of mates have gone for them just on my say so & non were disappointed, recon Michelin should throw a set my way for the amount I’ve sold for them.😁👍
Haha! Wouldn't that be the dream! Anyone from Michelin reads this, you know what to do!
I put the Road 5 on my Tracer 900gt after 500km on the dangerous Dunlop tires.
Wet grip was fantastic but no grip dry. Constantly fighting with wheel spin. Only lasted 6,000km.
Switched to Bridgestone S22. Getting huge improvement in performance in dry and lasting twice as long.
@@cruisingthethaiway6881lol wtf. That's backwards as hell, youre getting double the life out of a road sport tyre than a sport touring tyre and you're using a sport tyre on a sport tourer which I assume you got for doing longer rides in comfort.
I tried S22's on my mt09 and it's a great tyre that I recommend for sport bikes but not for its l9ng life, it's a sticky tyre but after trying the road 5 and having the read last 15,000km so far and I don't ride like a girl, I'd have to say the road 5 is overall a much better tyre with just as much grip that lasts longer.
I had Road 4 front and rear, replaced them with Road 5. Loved them. Im about to replace my rear tyre after 15,000Km on my 300kg FJR1300.
I use the whole tyre, chicken strips don't exist :)
The new tyre will be a Road 5GT
You've done well for a 300kg beast! They are great tyres aren't they! Thanks for watching
Just had these installed on my 06 Fjr1300... I picked up a cotter pin in my rear tire and Decided it's time to swap out the tires..
They are puncture magnets aren't they!
@@SamVBikes they definitely are! I'm glad I did swap tires out.. The front tire was wondering was worn and noisy. Now the bike is smooth and quiet besides for the exhaust I installed while the wheels were in the shop. Delkevic 18" stainless oval.
@@SamVBikes I wore them out without any punctures, now running Road 6GT
I recently got into riding, never knew what that notch in the tire was, the wear mark eh cool… I love learning something new every day thank you so much! My tire tread is the same, got a spare rim thing I’ll keep it for an emergency 🚨, plus gives me a reason to buy a new set (prior owner 2 different tires and it’s always bugged me lol)
Welcome to the best and also most expensive hobby you'll ever have haha! Glad I could help out with something. Safe riding!
Just got a set for myself. Thanks for the helpful video made my choice a lot easier
Do you actually accelerate your bike my gs1250 rear road 5 has 5 thou on it and may do another 1000 but sounds horrible due to the tred lifting. This has also happened on my old explorer 1200. Before you ask i am nearly always two up and most of my milage is on twisty roads around the northeast and northwest.
My weekend rides are normally always on twisty back roads, accelerating pretty hard. Commuting in the city is normally a bit of hard acceleration to get away from the lights and avoid merging cars. I reckon 70% of my riding is city/commuting though. But having said that, my bike only has 75bhp, so my hard acceleration might not be anywhere near as taxing as yours. Hope that helps
Hi Sam thanks for the reply I put this comment to your video as I keep seeing people who get great mileage from there tyres I must be unlucky as mine never last that long. The Bridgestone tyres fitted to the bmw from new where totally gone at 5500 ml front and rear but felt really good. My Michelin front doesn't look worn at all after 5000 ml but has no feel to it ? Wet or dry. Hope you keep blogging and riding.
Its really odd isn't it! What surprises me more is that people in the UK buy exactly the same tyre but get vastly different mileages and wears out of them. Mind you, the off cuts manufacturer's put on their bikes from factory don't help with the figures! I was chatting with a subscriber before who mentioned there are different factories that the same tyres are made in so maybe thats another factor! Thank you for watching!
Hi Sam just thought I'd let you know I've just bought a pair of Dunlop Mutant tyre's for this year I am hoping for better things from them. Keep up the good work 👏
@@paulgibson490 Good to hear! Please do keep me updated with how you get on with them! I'm managed to chew through my Scorpion Rally STR's pretty quickly and interested in other options. Thanks for watching!!
I just kept the road 5 on my fz07 and bought a T7 with the scorpion rally instead! Amazing bikes and tires!
Haha nice! I'd love to have the spare cash to do something similar soon! T7 is on my list to ride!
2 sets, 6000 miles front & rear, absolute toast. Was on ZZR1400 Performance Sport mind you. Now Roads 6s going on my SDGT, see how that goes
I want to hear more about the Scotland tour! Great video, very informative 👌
There will be another one, scattered with tales of distant memories of weekends that weren't disturbed by naggy producers!
@@SamVBikes obrigado
Good review. Thanks for comparing the used to the new. Too many people saying you get about 6k miles out of the road 5s. My MT07 came stock with road 4s and they have lasted about 15k miles. Good to know I can get close to that with the road 5's. Cheers
You're welcome! I've now got the road 6s fitted to my bike and hoping to get good mileage out of those too
Exactly, these assholes on Reddit are claiming no tire will go past 8k, yet I have almost 6k on my mt07 with road 5s that look brand new with no where near the TWI.
Haha! My girlfriends just coming to the end of the life on her Road 5s... 14k miles in haha! Nc750x commuting but still really good going
Hi Sam. I have a Ducati Monster 821 Stealth (2018). Which brand would you suggest me to go for….the stock tyres which are Pirelli Diablo Rosso 3 or Michelin Road 5…??
The road 5s will give you a shed load more grip in the wet and I much prefer them in the dry too. Rosso corsas are great when they are warm, but I don't rate them that much in normal conditions. Hope that helps!
Never tried the Michelin's but your review looks great. I really like the Continental Road attack 3's on my GS. Stable, progressive and very sticky not mention good in the wet.
Definitely recommend giving these a go if you're on the hunt for something new. You'd probably have to put the GT version on the GS. They are designed for the heavier/adv bikes. I've heard good things of the Conti's! Thanks for watching
3:05 so true. But no way they'd stick in rain at that angle, nor would anyone try I bet.
Exactly! I don't think I would want to test it haha
I see you really like to push the buttons on OCD with that ONE WRENCH! Niccccce!
Hahaha! It annoys me so much that it isn't the same!! But its the most useful wrench out of all of them... 12mm one side and 14mm the other... fits so many things
Lol. What exactly you mean tho? I'm not grasping it right now
Perhaps there is certain circumstances for the vary mileage that contributes to the tire wear. Such a s suspension set up, tire pressure, weather and the compounds that react to the road surface.
I'd definitely agree. There seems to be such a wide variety of mileages from different riders!
Hi mate new to biking been riding now for about two years. Riding my Kawasaki Ninja 650
Next bike will be Kawasaki Z 900. Looking for new pair of tires as I’ve got budget Road sport 2 not very good in corners sometimes slips out. Horrible feeling
Fantastic video and very well explained about the water channels.
Welcome! And thanks for watching!
I've not heard great things about those Road Sport 2s so not surprised you're keen to get rid of them. These tyres will give you loads of confidence!
Where would you recommend to get the best price for pilot Road five tires
@@SuperGizzzmo Just replied to your other comment too. Have a shop around, but I've previously bought them from Blackcircles.com and TheVisorShop.com as they were cheapest including delivery. Normally around £30-50 to have them fitted at a local shop. Hope that helps
Hi. I bought a new 2022 sondors metacycle motorcycle, it cam with michelin road 5 tires. I love my mr5 tires. They feel so good on the road. Every other day I check the psi ,to make sure it's at 44 psi. Per tire. What psi do you inflate your tires at? Thanks.
Congratulations on the new bike! I run 42 in the rear and 36 in the front
Great informative video. Just booked my bike it to get a set fitted next week. That you 👍
No worries! Enjoy them, cracking tyres!
Very interesting post! Im about to start to look for my next set of tires to my Honda Varadero. Present set is Metzeler Tourance Next, and now Im looking at MR5’s... But I would be curious what bike (or at least what kind of bike) you had theese tyres on, how if would compare to mine. I toggeled through some posts and didnt find it, so i figure I could ask. You got a lot of mile out of it and Id say there is plenty to go.
I had these fitted to my 2017 Yamaha Tracer 700 and my girlfriend has them fitted to her Honda NC750X. Really love the tyres, and they give you buckets of confidence in the wet too which is something we need in the UK! I haven't heard great things about the Tourance tyres. The feedback seems quite hit and miss. My dad had them on his Africa Twin and hated them. I would recommend these 100%
My MTN tyres has lasted apx 18000 km’s, and are not finished yet, but almost. My riding is commuting to work (now and then), longer touring (Swe-Nor and Swe-alps) and shorter touring (couple of hours up to days). I’m not skilled enough to give an evaluation of their characteristics dry/wet, but I’m so far very happy with them. Nevertheless I’m curious to try the MR5 to compare since you and others speak so highly of them. My area of Swe is probably almost as rainy as UK, I guess...
Its nice to hear someone that's getting on with them. I haven't tried them myself but would be interested to see how they ride. Although, like you said, I don't think I'm skilled enough to notice a massive difference yet!
hi I'm in southern France here in summer it's 30/37 degrees and the road5 is less good it loses grip when it's hot, less than 28 degrees super ok, finally I put road5 back and before power GP
Hello! That's really interesting to know, I guess they are designed more for winter. We aren't lucky enough to have those temperatures very often in the UK so never noticed that!
closing in on 13K miles on a rear on a MT10. Center tread is just starting to peel. Run Michelin's recommended tire pressure! I reckon I could've gotten even more miles if I did.
Still great mileage on a MT10! Always nice to see those figures when you see others getting half that!
@@SamVBikes 100% agreed. I am more than happy with the road 5. I've tried Conti Sport Attacks, OEM Bridgestone S21F/R on this particular motorcycle and they've all floated around 5-7K tops in terms of mileage. Even Dunlop Q3, Metzeler M7RR (although classified in another category) reached approximately 6K on 600 supersports. Nothing compares to the value one can get out the Road 5s. Great all weather grip, 0 warm up required, 1 less tire mount/balance money as well as time cost. I stock up on this tire whenever I can. However I do run a Power RS in the front as I personally prefer more perceived grip on the front, nothing wrong with the Road 5 fronts as I have not tried it yet.
Very good points! The power 5 front is a cracking idea too! I tend to do a lot of research before opening the wallet and I'm so glad I did with these! Thanks for watching
I bought a brand new rear Road 5 about a month ago as the original Pirelli on My Triumph Speed Twin only ran 3800 miles before metal banding exposed in the center. Two days after fitting I caught a #%@$ nail in the new tire. I used the spear type plug and it holds air and I've ridden it hard a few times since, but i have the nagging worry in my mind that it's going to kill me. I'm planning to get a new full set unless somebody tells me not to be such a knob. Am I a knob!
AHHH Gutted for you! That's the biggest kick in the twins! I use the mushroom type plugs and ran my first set of PR5's with 2 plugs in the rear for the last 6 months of it's life. They survived with no air leak at all! As long as you're not pulling some Valentino type manoeuvres, I'd lean toward saving your cash until you need to replace both... that's if you trust your repair haha! Thanks for watching
Hello Nick! Watch Ryan F9. In one of his latest posts he talks about different tyre ”repairs”... I think you can get a lot of milage if you choose a good repair!
Total agree had pilotroad 3 hated them. Wasn’t going to go back to Michelin road again . Put PR5 on street triple even on track good May of slightly over heated on track . But long lasting quick turning tyres .
Will have to change the super duke 200 to 190 to fit them next as max size on sport touring is 190.
How good is their traction and grip, and warmup? Eso for very aggressive riding and high speed low angle curves? Are they sticky enough? I have zero need or concern about rain. I'm currently using Battlax S22's and love them. Also loved Pilot POWER 2.
Sorry only saw your other comment! Warm up seems to be very quick, but even cold I've never had any worry about them slipping etc. They are sticky enough but if you are running S22s, you might be more interested in the Power 5's. They have the benefits of these but more designed for sports bikes. Pilot road 5's are designed more for sports touring so have more longevity in mind etc. Hope that helps!
@@SamVBikes thx but I wonder what the actual limit in grip is with the Pilot roads, esp since "sport touring is still sporty enough for great traction, and compared to Power 5s. And I researched a lot and found many more great reviews for the S22s and not very much for the Power 5s
On a dry day, I've never been able to find the limit with my riding. I can lean as far over as I'm comfortable on my bike and they hold really well. The s22 and similar are for those people who are more skilled than I am! I think they are a lot stickier leant further over for the track. If you ride quick, and arent worried about mileage/touring at all, get the s22 I'd say
@@SamVBikes what type of road surface are you riding with low lean angles? I'm pretty certain there's one that I question would not give much traction esp when wet.
@@justaguy4real Normally just the back roads in the UK. So windy country 'B' roads. I never track my bike and when riding on the road, I wouldn't feel confident getting my knee down with the amount of traffic, stones and general sh*t on the roads!
Useful review man, cheers👍🏼
Great mileage I have the 4s on my BM.
I had 4s from factory.. loved them! Definitely recommend the 5s. Noticed the 4s tended to lean to a point then drop away. Dont know if you've found the same
@@SamVBikes Only done 2,000 on them but at the age I don't go fast anymore ;-) ;-(
Fantastic review, Bravo!
Esse é um bom pneu? tenho um na dianteira e road 04 na trazeira que rodei mais de 20.000km
É muito bom. Muito melhorado desde o PR4. Desculpe, eu usei um tradutor para responder sua pergunta porque eu não falo português Eu espero que faça sentido! Obrigado
I just got a sport touring bike (97 Kawasaki ZG1000 Contour). I have hade Commander III's on my cruiser and have been pleased. But have been leaning into (pun intended) getting Pilot 5's for this bike. This video settles it!
Haha I enjoyed that pun way too much! You won't be disappointed
My next set of tires
I have Pilots Road 4 on one of my bikes and I'm very happy
Good to hear! These are like the Road 4's on steroids! Handle really well and more confidence in the hard corners too!
@@SamVBikes Thanks for the quick reply
Ride Safe
@@dr.jiIIaIicecooper2587 You too!
@@SamVBikes Will do, thank you very much.
And the riding season is just around the corner where I live..
@@dr.jiIIaIicecooper2587 Can't wait! Will be great to get on the bike properly and get those coffee and cake stops in!
I had these on a Versys 650. I got about 8k kms out of them. 80% mountain roads. I mean, sure the temperature and weather are a factor, considering here in southern europe it's much more sunny and hot in the summer, but still... How can you make'em last double the kms?
If there is one thing I've learnt from this video, it's that people are getting huge variances just from where they buy the tyres from etc. I assume something to do with the factory conditions. So many people are using the same tyres on similar bikes and getting 6000kms, and others are getting 25000kms! A lot of my riding is commuting In and out of the city so it's not all hard riding. My more spirited riding is normally only in the summer and at the weekends so I guess you could say I ride in a way that would promote tyre preservation. Sorry I couldn't give a better solution!
Hi Sam sorry it taken a long time, right Avon 3d ultra evo tyre report warm up quickly cornering grip is excellent even though they weren't scrubed in fully so I would imagine give them a few more miles the grip will be fantastic, handling very pridictable no sudden surprises I had tyre pressure at 36/42 and at £180 for the pair brilliant value for money.
No worries on the wait! Happy you came back to update so thank you for that! They sound great! And you're right, 180 for the set is a bargain. Will be interesting to see how long they last too!
@@SamVBikes sure I will update you around 6 months that will take me to the end of my riding season, getting too old to ride in winter lol 👍
Thank you! Haha I hear that, so glad the sun is finally making an appearance!! Safe riding
You don't have cupping on the sides. I dunno if mine are doing that because they're not inflated properly or if it's because I ride quite quick on the street but they aren't melting like they would on the track but mine have 15,000km on them which is under 10,000 miles and they have a sanded effect on the sides down to my strips
Thinking about throwing this beasties on my MT07 next.
Can also recommend the „Metzeler roadtec 01“ insanely grippy, fast heating, water conditions stable, long lasting pair, 150 kmh into the nasty ice-rain- handled as a champ, but it was scary as f#! :D
Excellent tyres but I'd go for the 6 since they're even better than the 5
Have had poor results on my Ducati MTS with all versions of Michelin Road. Rear done by 8500 km and front massively cupped.
I’m not an overly aggressive rider. All highway. Just don’t match well with my bike.
Interesting to hear. Sorry you've had a bad experience! The most interesting thing that has come from creating the video is hearing how different everyone's experience is!
Advice please guys. I love Pilot Road 4 & 5s. Have then on my other bikes and are great in the wet and acceptable in the dry. Now, I have a new Pirelli Angel GT mk 1 on the rear of my 2017 Triumph Thruxton non R. I’m thinking of going Pilot Road 5 on the front for wet grip. I know you shouldn’t mix tyres but I fancy the extra grip on the front for when it’s wet. Good idea or bad idea?
Good question! I've ridden a bike before with mismatched tyres... same brand but different model. Only noticed when I got off and checked the tyres because it felt so odd! I hated the fact that the front felt like it was lacking grip compared to the rear which is why I'd assume people say don't mix tyres. The only time I would personally mix them would be if it was off road tyres, like the TKC70 and TKC70 Rocks.
I'd worry that if the front gripped really well, you would have more confidence in the corners, but the rear wouldnt have the same level of grip and you would potentially low-side.
Happy to be corrected though!
Sam Vincent Thanks for your answer Sam. I think you make a good point about potential low sides although in the dry the Angels are probably grippier than the P5s. In the wet I tip toe around anyway and would be putting in minimal lean angles.
@@volt7cooltangs701 No problem! You're right! It's a difficult one but I guess as long as you aren't reliant on them at high speed or riding the bike hard, you should be okay! And it's not like you are buying cheap budget tyres!
What were the fronts like? Do they cup/scallop?
Front seemed to be solid regardless of the weather. Pushed really hard they started to be a little soft leant over but I wouldn't stick these on a bike that is going to be relying on being leant over a long way with constant abuse. Found no uneven wear at all but assume that's down to running correct pressures and checking regularly
Cupping and scalloping is a suspension adjustment failure, not a tire fault
I was going for these but my new (used) CBR650R came with Conti Sportattack3 which is turning out phenomenal, I'm waiting to see how they deal in the winter and just-above-freezing temperatures with my next change due in the spring. So far 8-9.000 km on the SA3 and no significant wear even done double up 2000km this summer.
Have you ever tried them? To compare to P5's?
This decision between SA3(new SA4) and P5's is tearing me months in advance
Good to hear! I have heard good things about the SA3's. I haven't personally tried them. Essentially, when it came to renewing.. I did a LOT of research and the tyres that kept coming out top were the PR5s and the Metzler Roadtec 01 (now superseded by 01 SE). A friend has the 01s and loves them too but I think the PR5s look a bit more menacing, plus mileage claims seem to be better!
@@SamVBikes Similar experience when it comes to research - I am a bit wary of this due to Michelin having a generally larger and more powerful marketing/PR than Continental (especially in Europe).
But nearly everyone praises the PR5's for being an amazing all-rounder.
Well, the winter will decide the previous Dunlop was a plastic deathtrap on the 3C commute in January and trying to brake on a road marking was as good as ice, hope these hold up better and just might swing me in Conti's way when spring comes around the corner.
@@Valks-22 To be honest, I've not really heard anything negative about the Conti's, Michelin or Pirelli. Dunlop on the other hand!
I've ridden once on the way home from work after a heavy snowfall. Was pretty slushy and generally awful after the vans and lorries had mushed it up. I dont think many tyres would handle it well, but the PR5s did an admirable job of keeping squeaky bum time to a minimum! Early morning frosts/icey starts have just surprised me... thinking you're going to slide but nothing happens which is lovely!
Would be interested in hearing your thoughts on the Conti's once you've done a winter on them. (Obviously If you can find this video in so many months time!!!)
@@SamVBikes I will do my best to come back with some feedback in a few months - reckon by late November/December it will be tested.
My cut-off for motorcycle is when it dips below 3-4C just because it gets too cold to manage or there is heavy dew / snow in the morning. Mainly due to a lot of tramlines and bridges that tend to flash freeze at those temps and no tyre will help. Always hard to take those +45mins on my daily commute but heated seats in a car do have some pros in that weather :D
Appreciate that!
Haha yes! Heated seats and a car would be lovely. Personally I'd rather stick the heated gloves on than pay London prices for driving my car in and parking but I definitely would join you on that otherwise! Thanks for watching!
Not having a go , besides the grip my only last 4500kms ( the rear ) the sides basically peeled of in corners on my 1130 Trek Benellli. I found the best rear Michelin was the pilot 4 GT rear got about 10,000kms out off it - no peeling and grip wasn’t much different. Fronts the 4s and road 5,s sculp out BAD at the front ( the 3 was the best front ) now my choice of tyre is the Dunlop roadsmart 3/4 traction just as good if not better than road 5 ( and WAY longer life probably around 15,000 kms - with my nuts 🥜 riding . and rear Metzler Roadtec 01 rear ( hooks 🪝 up ⬆️ like a Bitch. But only around 6000km wear - but doesn’t square off , unless you ride motorways all day long or ride like an old woman. ( obviously I only fit tyres that will stick in the wet as well ) , I guess one consideration is our road surfaces in Australia 🇦🇺 are abit rough in some areas.
putting a rear road 5 on my 1000cc supersport (it EATS rear tires)
Do you think I'll be able to get at least 3k miles out of these?
My last tires are rosso III's in fact I haven't even worn my front enough to justify changing it out for the rosso
my rear tire (rosso III) is done after not even 2k miles the middle is almost showing cords but not quite there
The performance was spectacular......if I had 200+ bucks to shell out for tires every other month i'd stick with them but I don't lol
I'd like to think you should get 3k miles at least. My bike is 160bhp and really torquey so a 1000cc sportsbike shouldn't be too different at eating them. If you're riding them hard, you might find they move too much. They are a sport touring tyre so hard canyon riding, you'd want something like the Power 5 or GP
thanks for the review . only the sound volume is on whisper mode. had to tutn the volume way up on my phone
Thank you! Yes apologies, I used to film with my phone which didn't have a great mic on it!
so, you're using these on the big KTM adventure bike and you're perfectly happy with the wear and performance? I am asking because I'm looking into these for another heavy bike, the R 1200 GSA.
I used these previously on my Tracer 700, not on the Super Adventure yet unfortunately. Having said that, I've ridden these on 220kg+ bikes and they perform very well, and also on bikes like a Street Triple RS too. I'd go for the Road 5 Trial I think they are called which are the ones with a stronger carcass for the heavier bikes.
@@SamVBikes yes, the Michelin Tire selector tool is recommending those. Thanks for your answer.
No problem!
11,500 miles sounds great. I only get 2500 miles from Michelin 4 rear tire. 1500 miles from Continental.
HI.how do you get 11000 miles out of a tyre Ilike know
I use the bike for commuting and touring, with spirited rides in the summer at the weekend. Not absolutely pinning the throttle away from lights helps a lot. And running the correct tyre pressures
Had a set of the road 5’s on my K12RS. The rear tire was the best I ever had on my bike but the front tire was the worst. Not sure why but that’s my experience with this tire.
Val
I wonder if its to do with the bikes weight. A few people have said similar things with heavy bikes. They do the GT version which is designed for heavier bikes, not sure if that will be much better. Thanks for watching!
Now that they have a GT version I'll try them again.
Hope you have a better experience with those
Your suspension set up might be badly suited to your weight and driving.
I was pretty impressed with the Rd 5's on my old K1200RS, but being a big heavy bike it ate them pretty quick.
I'm not surprised! Although I think that's the purpose of the GT version they released. They have a stronger sidewall for the bigger bikes so those might work better
They are excellent tyres but my rear is done at 7000 miles (second set similar mileage) so I’m jealous you’re getting that kind of mileage - V Strom 1000 solo riding, I’m not thrashing the nuts off it either (I’m getting too old for that shite) great review 👍
Thank you! There's a new set been teased, the Road 6. I'm quite looking forward to those
I had the 4s and I now have the gt 5s. I ride all year round and wouldn't look for another tyre.
Fantastic aren't they!
Had the 4s great tyre will try the 5s next 👍
Nice review 👌
Thank you sir!
Do you know anyone that has run the Angel GT II's? I hear that they're a close competitor to the Road series. My VFR is due for new shoes and I'm going back and forth between these two.
I don't unfortunately. I hear they are a good tyre but haven't tried them. The main reason I went for these over the Angel's/roadtec 01's was due to the range. Might give the Angel's a go after my Scorpion Rallys wear out. I dont think you'll be disappointed with either
@@SamVBikes Ive had all 3 on my 2014 VFR (Now have a 2020 VFR) initially had the Road 5 (7.5k) but found I wore the shoulders out front and back, then had the Angel GT2s(8.5k), great tyre but lacked the confidence the Roads give, then tried the Metzler SE01, only got 4k out of them as traded in for the new bike but thet were as good as the GT2s. When its time to change the shite stocks, ill be going for the Road 5 but keeping a close eye on tyre pressures as got cupping at about 5k
Great to hear you're opting to get another set! I really must get my leg over a VFR.. seen so many people loving them!
I had the road 5 and now the angel 2 on my bike.
The road 5 are good but they wear very bad on powerfull motorcycles. Result is very low milage(front and back).
The angel2 are equal in terms of grip and (for me even better) confidence on the road.
But they wear very evenly and already surpassed the mileage of the road 5 and I have still more mileage to go.
I changed from the PR4’s to the road 5’s last year on my VFR, and haven’t regretted it, fantastic tyre in all conditions !
Have these on my Speed Triple and VStrom 1K, very different bikes. But! These things improved both bikes handling, ride and grip in all conditions. Wearing exceptionally well. Highly recommend, as well. 6s are out now and are supposed to be further improved. When needed, I'll most likely be getting those, but won't overlook the 5s again, specially if the prices make them more attractive.
Nice to hear they work on all kinds of bikes! I've just fitted the 6s to my Super Adventure so looking forward to seeing how they are. So far, they handle just as well as the 5s. Tyres suddenly become something you don't need to worry about anymore!
@@SamVBikes Hey, I realize this is a year old comment, but if you guys happen to read this, the Road 5's are currently on sale, saving about $40-50 USD per tire. Is it worth the $80-100 savings or are the 6's that much of an improvement to go ahead and spring the extra cash? Asking as a broke young adult lol.
Road 5s are still great! I say go for it!
Sam , what tire pressures were you using on the R5's
I was using 33psi front and 36psi rear. Went up a few psi when the bikes loaded up. That was based on the bikes recommended pressures. Hope that helps!
i just bought some, you put my mind at rest, i was a bit unsure if they were ok for touring.
They are amazing! So much confidence in the wet. Eat up the motorway miles and also hold their own when you get unloaded and to the twisties!
Are those 5 GT or regular 5 varients
These are regular. I believe the only difference between them is that the GT's come in adventure bike sizes (21 front, 17 rear etc) and primarily designed for the heavier bikes like GS's and K1600's etc
Just bought and put on a set for my MT10
Nice! They might not last this long if you ride how I would ride an MT10 haha
11500 miles out of a set of tyres? How have you managed that?
I use the bike for commuting and touring, with spirited rides in the summer at the weekend. I guess the early morning dull commuting squeezes more life out of them!
Thx for the review I guess I don't know how to ride as I can't get more than 3k miles from mine on the side tread but they have way more tread in center than yours at 11k miles when done, Angels, Pilots, and Q3s don't last as long as PR5s on my Mutley PP. YMWV.
Haha! I might be too soft on my cornering! Most of my riding is commuting and a bit of motorway, so not particularly hard on the tyre. If you're using yours mainly for spirited rides I guess they won't last anywhere near as long
11500 miles on one? For me tires dont go beyond 6K and also they were not heavy bikes. I will definitely try this one then
How do you have that much tread left at 11,500 miles? Were these used on a Vespa?
Haha no, on my Tracer. Not the most powerful bike in the world, and was used for commuting, touring and weekend B-road blasts so not exactly taxing. A few people have had way more miles out a set commuting
@@SamVBikes That makes more sense! Thanks for the reply.
No worries!
i had them under my s1000xr.
4300 miles rear tire and front tire completely worn out.
so you have to explain to me how to do 11500 miles with a tire and still be good, or you only had to drive in 1st and 2nd gear
I commute 25miles each way into London each day (mix of motorway, A-road and London traffic), weekend spirited rides but had 2 sets on the bike and both had similar mileage along with others getting 10k plus regularly on forums. XR has double the power of my bike though so that may have something to do with it! Your spirited riding might put mine to shame too though!
Don't wanna sound like a twat but you either got "Power 5" or you got some knock off tyres cos these tyres have done 12k on my S1000XR before being spent and over 14k on my Ninja 650, both used for commuting, touring, twisties and some trackdays. They hold their own on track so I literally have no reason to buy any other tyre. The power 5s were DONE in 4k miles even on my 650
@@AntaresSQ01I used my roads 5 for a vacation trip and then I just drove them on. 7000km on the head, front and rear tires were worn together.
I loved them because they are very good in the rain, on holiday you never know that you will get a few days of rain
meanwhile I have power 5 rear tire on the multistrada 1260S, 5000km and the rear tire was completely worn out
@@AntaresSQ01 the 2nd power 5 rear tire is worn out.
3400km
front tire replaced at 7200km.
@@Chr-Re-ie Easy up on your take off from the lights, you'll be amazed how that changes tyre wear.
Thanks for the info
Do these tyres slide if there is sand or gravel or muddy roads?
They will, but not many tyres are going to save that. You'll have to go for at least an 80/20
What is the tyre pressure to maintain?
I usually run around 36psi in the rear and 33psi in the front. That's recommended by by bike manual but I know some people run higher. Hope that helps
Can you tell me The best place to buy these tires as Kawasaki can come up pretty dear.
I've always bought them online and then had them fitted or fitted them myself. By far the cheapest option. Have a shop around, but I've previously bought them from Blackcircles.com and TheVisorShop.com as they were cheapest including delivery. Normally around £30-50 to have them fitted at a local shop. Hope that helps!
Are they the GT versions?
These ones aren't but I think they are basically the same. The GT versions are built for the heavier bikes (like an RT, GS or similar) so think it's just a slightly stronger sidewalls etc. Hope that helps
Wow that’s a lot of miles on a set of tires I’m only getting 3000 miles on a set of Metzler Roadtec 01 on my FJR 1300!
I had these tires on my R6 prior to selling it and they lasted 8k miles and still had plenty of life left. Just bought a ninja 400 and got the road 5's for hat because they were so great. Grip was unrivaled compared to the Q3's and Pilot 2CT's I had prior. S22's would be the only other tire id say were comparable. Wanted to get the Road 6 but not in stock anywhere for the Ninja 400 stock size.
boo..... But, maybe in 12k miles. lol.
Amazing you managed to get good mileage out of them on an R6! I've just fitted the Road 6s to my bike so will update with how they are!
@@SamVBikes My buddy said he got 7k on his Ducati which was enough to convince me on the Road 5 as the Pilot 2CT's only lasted 4k miles before the wear indicators were showing. Please do let me know (Or make a review) on the Road 6. They boast better grip and life and would Definitely love to see that.
Yeah they seem to wear really well. I'd assume these will wear quickly in the middle on my new bike because of the power, but hopefully will still get good mileage! Will make a review when I get further into them
Hello I have the same bike ( ninja 400 ) how different is the handling getting +10 on both front and rear compare to stock?
i gotta ask how do you manage to turn using no throttle, I killed them in 7000 kms,
haha 7000km?!! I got more than that out of my Pirelli Scorpion STR off road tyres! You must be riding them hard!
I’m running brightstone s21 get about 6k . Good tire I’m reluctant to go back to pilot roads had the PR3 veryone raved about them but I hated them didn’t slip but didn’t push them either felt vaguely connected to the road . The PR5 are base on the RS tire so maybe time to try again
I reckon the S22 might be better if you're wanting something to really throw around but these are great tyres. My mate has just put a set on his Street Triple RS and loves them. Much prefers them for road riding to the OEM Rosso Corsa's
@@SamVBikes hi yes right they more hot weather / track sport riding . Tyres have gone even higher in price so don’t want to stuck with wrong again . I given them ago close call with s22 the s21 not bad on mileage , think PR5 will worth a gamble
Thanks
@@marksmith8663 Definitely! I've had 2 sets of PR5's and have loved both so I don't think you will regret the purchase! Plus they last a lot longer which helps with the money!
I got less than 4000 miles on my Super Duke 1290 R and wasn’t riding like a maniac. Sticks very well to the road but was disappointed by how fast they were gone.
I'd assume your bike would still munch through them more even whilst not riding fast... SDR has a casual 100bhp more than my bike haha! It's crazy to see how different sets of tyres last, even being the same brand/model
How can those tires last 11,500 Miles? Which bike does he drive? Mine are done after 3000 Miles
It was a 2017 Tracer 700 commuting, weekend rides and touring. Easily could have got another 1k miles out of them too. I had 2 sets of Road 5s, one lasted 11.5k, the others were around 10k before I swapped them out for some more off road friendly tyres. It is possible on some bikes, and if you're not riding them hard all the time. A few people are reporting nearly 20k miles out of a front!
@@SamVBikes thanks for your answer. I think the 700 cc make a big difference, I drive a Super Duke which torque is just through the roof. And also we have a lot of twistys which let you de- and accelarate al the time. 20k is just insane :D But there you see, its an awesome tire!
Haha yeah! My new bike is a 1290 Super Adventure.. I doubt I'm going to get anywhere near that mileage haha! It's a great tyre so far for the confidence and wet weather grip if nothing else!
@@SamVBikes Awesome, the Adventure is amazing. I can totally confirm what you said about the confidence the tyre provides. I have been in the Black Forest last weekend and did not slip one time. Neither in the wet nor dry. And I was really riding that tyre down to the edge.
Thank you! Loved the SDR but tour quite a bit, so just bought that engine with more weight and wind protection! 😂. Black Forest is an amazing place to ride, need to get back there for sure!
how the hell did you get 10k out of a pair of pilot 5's?!! we scarcely get 6.. crazy.
Haha! It was a Tracer 700 commuting and doing a few tours etc so nothing crazy. I've got Road 6's on my Super Adventure S at the moment and I reckonn I'll get 6k miles out of them
great set of tires - had the same
tyre life bhai ?
Dunlop Roadsmart 3!!! 🏁🏍️
Good stuff 👍
Hhhmmmm, been looking for a replacement rear on my KTM620. The last rear I took off had only done 950 miles (MT60RS) .
Are the MT60RS' the scrambler looking tyres? I'm sure I read somewhere that they don't last very long because they are made to look good rather than last, so the tread is quite low. Might be worth looking at some Michelin Anakee Adventure's if you want something a bit more off road bias with more life. The Scorpion Rally STR's have been pretty good so far
@@SamVBikes Not at all, I bought them for their excellent wet weather performance. To be fair the KTM is a single with huge torque pulses which shreds most tyres. Supermoto riders use the MT60RS as a rain tyre on tracks, they are really that good......hit a wet patch leaned over and they track just as if you were on the dry....the point is that they're soft, because soft is grippy and that's why they wore quickly. I like to use the edges a lot too because I pay for that rubber and I don't want to see it go to waste ;)
I live in Scotland so I need to buy a tyre to suit the average conditions of cold and/or wet. I look at reviews for wet weather performance and can quickly eliminate 70% of all tyres, then I check individual reviews for what's left. When I was a despatch rider I bought tyres based on reports of long life, but then paid the price for having low grip levels on cold wet cobble stones in Edinburgh. Now it's all leisure riding I buy for performance and don't mind short life if the pleasure level is high :)
@@chrisbarron5861 Ahh nice to hear! I know a lot of people are buying those kind of looking tyre because they look great on the scrambler bikes but good to hear you're actually looking at performance!
These tyres are fantastic in the wet too and general performance. Fitted them to my girlfriends bike in place of some old Metz Tourance's she had before and she is so much more confident in the wet and on cold days. Although I know the Tourance's have a bad rep so that could have happened with any decent tyre. I think the only down side is if you are really pushing it, they can squirm a bit leant over far, but I never really get to that point as I dont track my bike (bit pointless on a Tracer haha).
@@SamVBikes I don't mind squirm if it happens, much better for them to start squirming than simply letting go catastrophically in my opinion. Don't underestimate the Tracer. The -07 is an awesome machine and in one group I ride with there's a lad who goes all the way around the outside of me on corners, leant all the way over, confidently. The Tracer -09 can do it...I also ride a TDM900 and I run all the way up to the edge of the tyre, Michelin Pilot Power 2CT.
Honestly , all of these tyres are very high end and most riders will give up their efforts long before the tyres will, particularly in the dry. I never felt confident on Metzelers, so I get what you're saying about your girlfriend feeling more confident.
To help with confidence you can do a lot worse than going to a police 'BikeSafe' course. Getting an interpretation of what distinguishes sensible from foolish, from the police point of view, is really helpful bikesafe.co.uk/
Exactly! Almost like a gentle reminder that you're riding like a tool haha!
Better than the Pilot Road 4's too, as they leant over confidently then suddenly dropped which was a pretty awful experience!
Nice! I was planning on getting a few courses in over the last year or so but obviously havent been able to. Planning on getting a few off road days in too (like the Ady Smith and Mick Extance ones). Found that learning how the bike can move underneath you, and how to control that helps to limit the panic reaction if something slips and you're not expecting it. Will definitely give the Bikesafe one a go too once we are allowed outside!
I ride kaw concourse 14, 8k total miles on the bike, on my 3rd set of tires, 2nd set road 5's, bike's a toy!
Never have ridden w the bags, bike's rock steady full lean! ...or what seems "full lean", how do you really know. Hmm
Shop tire guy commented, "you really know how to ride that thing".
btw- not really, usually close my eyes and pray! ...and here I still am. 🙏
Haha! You have done well to munch through tyres that quickly but a cracking bike to do so on!
Thanks for watching!
@@SamVBikes
Road5 Story
Summer evening on a familiar back road, approached a favorite curve at speed, had a little scare.
It was perfect conditions, except for the invisible Farm fertilizer, both tires lost traction...regaining uneventfully!
All the self-talk "hold like a baby chic", payed off. Lol
@@grandpa7278 haha! Glad you managed to save that, rear wheel isn't that worrying but feeling that front end slide has to be one of the worst feelings!
@@SamVBikes In my youth on the farm rode ATC's, 3-wheelers, had always looked back fondly of them.
So, bought a used 660 Raptor, big mistake, dislocated my shoulder, hurt way more then Ouch. It's a Beast
I've slowed down since then, falling down isn't what I remembered as a youth.
@@grandpa7278 I agree, I used to ride a lot of motocross when I was younger. Falling off was a brush off, and get back on with it.. but now it's days of aching! haha
That's my kind of idea !
well i guess i know what i'll be getting for my next set
They have just released the Road 6. Not sure if you can buy them yet but those will be good
Any recommendations for a ninja 2019 tires? Thanks
Depends what you use the bike for! If you want a sport touring tyre, the Michelin Road 6 are great. If you're looking for a more sporty tyre - Conti Road Attack 3's are meant to be great. If it's all out sports tyre, maybe something like a Pirelli Supercorsa or Bridgestone S22?
@@SamVBikes thanks for the quick reply. I just want something durable and last long. I don't race track just want to touring around town.
Give the Michelin Road 6s a go, I've just fitted them to my Super Adventure and love them! Review on my channel more recently
@@SamVBikes got it. thanks
How do they last so long. On my third set after 9000 miles. 😁
3rd set in 9k miles!! What are you riding haha! I've got the new Road 6s on my tuned 1290 Super Adventure and I've had over 5k out of a rear!
I used road 5 in my mt07 and i only did 13500km
Track or road&touring
Only?, I'd say that's decent but all depends on what bike and how you ride and how often
What pressures do you run?
33psi front, 36 rear which go up to around 35-40 if carrying weight
@@SamVBikes ok, I started running 40 42 and I've gotten better mileage out of my tires, but never gotten more than 6500 miles out of a tire. I've always ran the Angel GT, but I've been debating on trying a set of Road 5's.
Sounds good! I tried running slightly higher pressures in my original PR4s but found the tyres hummed more at motorway speed which annoyed me haha! Same thing happened when I fitted the Rally STRs to my bike recently. Will be interesting to see if they do last longer with higher pressure though
@@SamVBikes I'm also a bigger guy, i weigh about 270. I think higher pressures worked better for me because of that lol
Haha! I like your honesty! Gravitationally blessed
"They are getting low"? wtf that still has tons of life as the marker is still really deep, also how you can get 11k miles on a rear tyre? you riding at 50mph and accelerating like my grandmas wheelchair?
The best road tyre you can buy
Agreed!
What about commander 2s?
Havent tried them yet!
I had pr4s on my cb1300 didn't like them didn't inspire confidence I found Avon 3d xm to be better, no disrespect but gone back to Avon.
I agree, the PR4s weren't incredible. I found they dropped after a certain lean angle which really didn't help with the confidence! Havent tried the Avons yet
@@SamVBikes got the 3d Evo sport now but covid has stopped the fun not scrubed in 😁on a gsx-s750
Nice! I'll be interested to hear how you find them! Yeah my poor bike sitting there! Won't know what's hit it when lockdown lifts!!
@@SamVBikes sure ;)
I seem to be the only person who lives in a desert. Everyone always talks about wet grip.
I need to be obsessed with wet weather grip, I live in the UK haha!
11500 miles?? I only get 2000miles out of my rear Angel GT!!
Haha! Thats an achievement!