Michelin Road 6 Tires Review
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Michelin have dropped the pilot from the Michelin Road 6 Tires but when you take these to the track, you’ll still feel like you’re flying. With another evolution of the Michelin Road series of tires, Michelin continues to find more life and more grip in both dry and wet conditions than previous versions. For riders that demand a long lasting tire that can make you feel like a hero on the track or the twisty back roads, there is no other option.
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Pretty happy about this review. I just put them on my VFR800! 😊
Very helpful video. Thank you so much!
Had the Road 6 's for a month or so. They are fantastic , wet or dry the grip is amazing. Best tyres I've ever had. 👌
I would LOVE for you guys to have Zach and Arie test this tire, against the next step up in sport tires, like the famed S22, to really see just how far you can push this road 6. I can’t find any comparisons between a more touring oriented tire like this and a tire your typical aggressive sport rider with occasional track days type rider would gravitate to, like the S22. Just how far have these sport touring tires come? Let’s get a vid on it!
Yes please
Yes! I actually was debating the S22 vs the Road 5 at the start of 2021, ended up going with the Road 5 for longevity. But I want to know the grip differences!
I got just over 10,000 miles on a rear R5 on an MT-07. The front lasted over 15,000 miles.
@@StarFox31 From personal experience there is barely anything between the S22s and the Road 5s, besides the S22 having a more aggressive profile (but the road 5s are very aggressive for sport touring tyres too) there is no upside to the S22s on the street, none at all. At the track, the difference is still minimal, Road 5s are a bit easier to overheat than the S22s but you'd be hard pressed to find a fault with them unless you're Marc Marquez, and then ofc lest we forget about the 2-3x longer life of the Road 5s
A test against the ContiRoad Attack 4 would also be great
Great tires, except for the tendency to pull one direction when riding straight. Thought it was my front end alignment until I discovered others were having the same issue. Weird. Otherwise, it’s a good tire.
The road series is a premium tire but man look at those milage!
I use the Michelin road 5, the best I get in mileage on the rear is a little bit over 5000 miles, the bike is a a Suzuki gsx s1000.
Even my power 5's in the rain on my 636 are phenomenal on crappy Florida roads. Only tire I've ever felt comfortable on in the rain in over 10 years and over 80,000 miles on 2 wheels.
I’ve run Pilot Power 3’s for the last nine years…Don’t do big mileage. Been caught out in rain more than a few times including a mountain hail storm and never worried about the wet traction. Need new tires this year, aging out not wear, and I think the Power 5’s will work for me and my occasional wet ride home.
3:00 I dont know why they keep making such a big deal about wet weather grip. Personally i avoid rain/wet roads, and if I do get caught, I ride like grampa. I dont know any street riders out there pushing their bikes to performance levels. Just stick to the dry all around performance and long life, and we'll be set. happy
The road 5s came on my Trident 660. Absolutely amazed by the performance in the rain. I rode through an absolute frog drowner of a storm with water rushing across the highway and they cut through it with no problems. I will 100% continue to put these on my bikes in the future.
Yup I agree. Had them on my ninja 400 and did the same thing. Rode thru an absolutely insane downpour going about 60 and they cut right thru the rain no problem. I won’t get any other tire now
I get them on Yamaha MT 07 2022 also and i did already 20k kilometers and i didn’t spend 1/3 of tire. I road them on highway and twisty roads, rain , motorway and other…Also doing some roll on spins and slides rear tire for fun in urban areas. They doing well and i will buy 6’s because you can trust the tire for sure.
I have worn out two Road 2 from 2018 to the edge of the tyre and only had two major scares. Thought they were more modern. Can't imagine how much grip I'm gonna get from the 6s when I put them on!
What you did to your 2s doesn't sound super wise! Please be more careful and change them before wearing them out completely. Scares are not funny, and if they are major, even less. Ride safe buddy.
@@iTorMaybe I did express poorly. The Road 2 still had a lot of life left, what I meant was that I thought they were newer and leaned hardly with them, using the tires to their edge. Thing is they were a bit hardened and I had two scares. The second one was the worst because I lost my front and had to rebalance with my foot, so I decided to change them. Have been using Road 6 for about two weeks and they have been great, even on wet.
@@LINKchris87 nice to hear that
Got a little over 8,000 miles from a pair of Road 5s on my Triumph Speed Twin. A lot of that was on the freeway; when I replaced them, they had tons of meat left on the outside edges, but the center was worn past the wear bars. They never lost traction once. On my second set now, and I know I'll be moving to a pair of Road 6 once these have worn out in a year or two.
I rode in winter (average 2-3 celsius) the Road 5s and if you are not crazy on the throttle you can ride just like in summer lol
Great tires but not for dual sport. I never had a problem on trail's but the six got a stone through its first adventure ride. Still a god tire though
The GT is for heavier motorcycles, but I cant find anywhere that they specify what they class as heavy.
You have to look at the load ratings of the tires on Michelin's website to find the difference
@@magicoddeffect I tried exactly this, but the load ratings are the same on the standard and GT. For instance, the 120/70ZR17 standard and GT are both rated at 58W
dang Spurge, you no talk so good
Got 4,500 miles out of dunlops. 10,500 out of road 5's. Put road 6's on a couple weeks ago, great tires, alot of cold and wet confidence. I never worry about grip
what bike did you put these on? I changed my 5's after 10,000 miles cause they were squared flat on the rear. by far the best street tire available.
Really, wow, I’m just about to get a new front tyre for my Harley. Michelin seems the way to go then.
What would be interesting is if Michelin actually told you which bikes or weight is needed for you to move from the standard tire to the GT version.
I tried to find some sort of guideline for the weight/when to equip the GT version but couldn't find anything. However, on the Michelin website it lists the available sizes of the Road 6 and Road 6 GT. So I suppose if the GT doesn't fit your bike, there's the answer - although not particularly satisfying.
@@lau5067 I had hoped to use the tire load index to figure this out myself, but the standard tires have about the same load indexes of the GT. So no real help there either.
Switched to Road 5s after getting caught in a downpour. Watched the Road 5 reviews and went for it. Much better grip, quicker response turning in, and they really hold their feel in the rain. When my 5s finally wear out, I guess I'll be moving to 6s. If they give me 10% more life, and better wet traction and feel, so much the better.
Compared to what? What were the previous tyres on your bike and what bike do you ride?
@@ful48j Bridgestone Battlax. That's as much as I remember of them as that I swapped them out after having the bike (R1200RT) for about a year. I'm not the original owner, so they may have served the previous owners riding style better. Rainy commutes and back road touring for me feel more planted on the 5s.
@Tyler Braden Was not aware of that. That would explain why my morning commutes in the high teens were "normal" to me.
@@cliff8675 I've had Battlax (worst tire ever had on a bike), Power 5s, Pilot Power 2CT, and currently running Road 5's, w/the Road 6 going on my bike next Monday. Out of them all, the Road 5's are hands down, the best in all situations. Riding from Maine, to South Carolina and Back, getting caught in a couple extremely harsh rain storms, and held constant highway speeds of roughly 85mph without a worry in the world. From the Tail of the Dragon, to New Hampshire Kancamagus highway, to just screaming down the Northern Maine Highways at 200mph, they've taken everything I've given them, and not once made me feel uneasy. Was extremely hesitant doing w/the Road 6, as the 5's have been amazing, but hey, they say it's better all around, so I took their word for it and ordered them, and now excited for my Trip to Florida, over to Texas and back to Maine in June. For the record, 14,000 miles on the Current Road 5's, and could easily finish out the summer on them if I wanted with how much tread is left on them. No other tire has gotten me over 6k miles on my ZX14R, so with that alone, I'm extremely impressed.
@@JMackin1016 Great info!
How do you like Road 6 so far? I'm trying to decide between the road 5 and 6. I currently have Pirelli Diablo Rosso 4 tires and it's time to get new ones. Thank you, and ride safe my friend.
I have had road 5s on my street triple r for two years, they have done 10k miles and probably not even half worn. They are absolutely brilliant tyres.
I absolutely love the road 5s on my Versys 650, so much grip, in any weather.
I have Road 5s on my 09 Speed Triple and 04 V-Strom 1K. Very different bikes, but...these tires transformed both bikes. Great traction accelerating, stopping and cornering regardless of the conditions, and they are wearing incredibly well. A new bike is coming in 22 - probably S1000GT - and I'm already planning on putting 6s on it after a couple thousand miles. Very high trust factor for me. Thanks for the initial review!
Glad I found your comment, Im having 6s installed on my 2010 triple, hoping for good things
Cant wait to give these a go later this yr...
Love my Road 5's on my Versys 1000 and MT-09. But these will be my next 2 sets.
GT version of many tires are offered for “heavier” motorcycles. No one seems to reference what “heavier” means. What curb weight are GT tires recommend for? Thanks.
Road surfaces...amish horse and buggies are turning the roads i ride into a cheese grader. I try to avoid the tracks on the roadway but sometimes it is helpful for hooking actually...
I have been riding my Victory Cross Country Tour on Dunlops for years. Seeing this video, convinced me to convert to the Mich 6.
Can't wait to try 'em!
Thanks guys!👍
@tombork2281 How are they working out for ya? I have a cross country myself and thinking about pulling the trigger on the mich 6's
I did wet weather track day riding with Pilot Road 4 on my GSXR 750, they were great - they even survived dry weather punishing on the track with no problems
When you say you can see the two compounds, you can see it really good and the rear tire that's sitting on the stand. You can actually see the line where the the hard center material stops and the soft side wall material begins. It's very clear on that tire sitting in the rack
Gr8 vid, spurg. Ride safe, god bless u.
why the front tire mount the wrong way?
When exactly should I be considering GT? Can't get a definition of a "heavier bike" currently ride a Ducati Multistrada which is a fair old lump for sure but which version should I be looking at?
It's one of life's mysteries...I guess if you identify as heavy, you ride the GT version.
I went to my dealer today to have the road fives installed because they’re significantly less expensive than the road six and still a great tire. Well they didn’t have the road five so they upgraded me to the road six at the Road five price. Most dealerships are not going to do that for you. The pricing was very competitive with RevZilla. My dealer came in just a couple dollars cheaper but I was ecstatic to get the road six for the road five price
Brilliant tyres. Got these on my VFR800 VTEC 03. Instant confidences on the twisties and in the wet👌
Love the road 5 it last me 3 riding season on 2005 honda cbr 600 f4i. Can't wait to test these road 6
Why are none of these channels covering the Michelin Road 6 say anything about the very common issue of the wheel pulling the bike to the left considering nothing but the tire changes about the bike.
Been super excited for these
is it good for V Strom 650 my 2005 ?. I'm looking for a more on road tyres. any opinion?
Road 5s are amazing.
Really transformed my xsr900.
Looking forward to trying the Road 6.
are these not good for performance? Are these good for cornering and going fast?
UK Subscriber here,
Had the PR4's on my 2003 VFR vtec, was new to biking so didn't know any better. Switched to PR5s a year later and TOTALLY transformed the bike. Absolutely amazing in the cold and wet. Got about 10-11k out of them
Today, having to put the 6's on, £350, ouch. £50 up on the 5s, so will have to see how they go.
Hey Spurge, could you guys please do a video showing how they handle in wet weather conditions. I love the 5's but are the 6's going to be that much better in the wet..?
For CA, the canyons and 95% dry conditions the Dunlop Q3'S were incredible. Now back in EU :( i use Road 5's. For all the reasons explained above, these tyres have never let me down. Lot's of trust and confidence in all conditions. 11,000 miles and still have at least 3,000 left.
Took PR4s off my BMW R110S and installed Q3s. The grip and precision were incredible.
Just bought an FZ6 and it's rolling on Battlax BT23s, definitely going to check these out when I replace them!
Also, these look like cool cyberpunk tires which doesn't hurt
I got Road 4s about a year ago. Love them.
can i use this on my zx10r 2021
Drove to Orlando yesterday on a concours 1400 in the rain and this tire truly shined. Going from dry to wet and never noticed any type of funny business. Also it stops amazingly.
Great detailed explanation of the true. Well done. Have Road 5 on my street triple RS but will have another rear road 5 before swapping over as the front has so much life left and I don’t want to mix 6 rear and 5 front. 👍🏻
Fun fact, Michelin predict the Road 10 will only be sold to manufacturers as it will last longer than the motorcycle they come with 😁
Where’d you see that? Pretty cool wonder when we will see it
Whoosh
I doubt that. Maybe they will make a tyre that can do that but it will never have maximum traction, part of having high traction is the high friction and rubber you leave behind that sticks to the road.
Honestly they can with present technology make a tyre that will outlast the life of a motorcycle however it will have the grip of a 1960's tyre which is nowhere good enough for high performance motorcycles of today's era.
If you want a long lasting tyre honestly some of the cheap Chinese tyres last the longest however the grip on any of those is sometines borderline and other times flat out dangerous.
Double-whoosh.
@@csn583 Fun fact: Common sense isnt very common.😂😭
Is this better than city grip 2??
What bike weight should I start looking at the GT version? My H2SX weighs about 590lbs
Hey I'm looking to into this tire currently run Metzeler roadtec 01 SE on my BMW s1000XR 2022 how does the Michelin road 6 compare with the metzeler roadtec 01 se?
I have owned a multitude of cars over the last 45 years, and only once I made the mistake of buying non-Michelin tires for them. I quickly learned my lesson and never did it again. Same for my motorcycle. After the OEM Metzlers wore out, I bought Pirellis, and after 200 KM, the handling was so compromised that I threw them away for a set of Michelins, and over the last 20 years have not deviated. When you have experienced the best, it is hard to like anything else.
I started out with pilot power 3's on my vfr, would love to give a set of these a try sometime!
I just put a new rear road 6 on my vfr800 feels awesome already, can't wait for the slickness to wear off so I can push them in the twisted soon
Just got some road 6 gt’s love them so far. Was down to the wires on my old tires
I've just put my first 100miles on the Z14 & they feel amazing! Can't wait to get back out tommorow 😉
THE UNENDING DEBATE - ROAD 6 vs S22! TEST IT!!!
After 38000km (nearly 24000 miles) the Road 5's on my 2013 Honda NC700D Integra finally need replacement. (The bike with its panniers weighs about 238kg.) I could squeeze a few more kilometers out of the rear tire.
I've been using Michelin Roads since the 4, and they are fantastic. Due to the price I was tempted to look around for cheaper tires; but since my life literally depends on these I don't want to compromise on tires.
Appreciate the review brother. I currently run Pirelli Angel GTII's on my fjr1300. I will seriouisly consider the Michelin's for my next set. At this point, the Pirelli's are performing very well in the rain and dry. keep up the great work, all the best from Oz.
I also had the Angel GTIIs on my GSR600, they're currently being replaced by the Road 6s, I can't wait to feel how they compare!
1:20 they're ALWAYS going to claim improved grip somewhere somehow. WhoTF wouldn't??? thats the whole point of a new tire anyway,,,,riiiiigggghhhtt??????
Bought them this year when I was on a trip to the northcape. Got the Road 4 tyres and the were worn out. It was such an improvement and could test them in the best environment in the world, Norway. All the elements were there so I could test them really well. Drove for more than 13.000km on them trough Europe. The cold, and rain in Norway and the heat in Corsica. They are perfect for the BMW R1200R and I had alway's good grip and felt save with them on te bike.
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@@BikingVikingHH Cheers!!!
@@BikingVikingHH Skål mate!!!
This is THE tire. I have them since they are available. For wet dutch weather this is exactly what you need
How is it for a Harley Street Rod 750?
If the bike is a hyper naked but I am a heavier rider, I should use GT?
Have Power 5's on my Blackbird and they are unreal. My next tire is going to be a Road 6 though.
Just fitted these road 6's on my BMW f900r and so far impressed as I'm in the UK and we get a fair bit of rain these tyre's grip very well in the wet... Excellent review by the way... 👋👊👊
I had S22's on my MT10, now i have Diablo Rosso 4's, i like them but wear out pretty quick and not much confidence in the rain (i daily my bike) so this looks like a pretty good tire for me?
the sucky part is that i cant find the size I need for my rear tyre with Road 6.....I am really disappointed.
I'm getting Road 6 fitted to my Breva 1100 tomorrow, can't wait to put some miles on it..
I just put the road fives on my 2010 Kawasaki z1000 and they are absolutely fantastic tires. If these are an improvement I will be very impressed. Love love love my road 5 they are I'll say it again simply fantastic tires
Tiger 1200, I have had the Road 5 both the GT and the Trail... Both lasted 10,000 miles...and they were done. I ride occasionally with a pillion and do muti-thousand mile fully loaded trips a couple of times per year. So expecting more than that on a heavier bike is not realistic. On a lighter bike, maybe so. Great grip in both dry and wet conditions. Love the tires.
What is your opinion about bridgestone T32 over this ones? Probably getting road 6 in next swap but would love to know if bridgestone are good as well!
Road 5 series changed my mind 100 degrees about tire safety and technology. I have a spider touring . Top performance in rain at 90 . It delivers . I can’t imagine the 6 it’s gotta be amazing
Just put a set on my multistrada v4s, so far so good! Much better turn in and grip on the side of the tire than the stock Pirelli scorpions.
OMG i was just thinking about doing that for my V4S Multi Ive already blown through my first two sets, i stuck w/ the stock tires on the second go. But ive been doing a fare amount of off roading and camping w/ it. These tires here would prevent that. Ugh🤔
Can i put these on my zero fxs?
Sweet. I'll have to grab these next. Not a huge fan of my battle axes I have now.
The 5 GT tire literally transformed my FJR 1300 from a bike I intended to sell (as I didn’t trust the handling with the Pirelli Angel GT it came with used) to I bike I really trust and totally enjoy.
Was stunningly impressed!
The Pirellis would “tram line” (follow the tar/ gravel grooves) on the chip seal secondary roads we have in Eastern WA.
Can’t wait to try the 6.
My 5s have 6K miles and still look great.
I’m guessing I’ll get another 3-5 K before they’re all done.
I just bought the 6GT and hope they are as good as the 5GT that you're using. I'm on a 2021 FJR an hour north of Spokane
have the same on my 06 fjr. Best tire in the rain, even got some of my buddies on sport bikes and they love them especially on some of these south Louisiana un expected rain showers.
Tram line? Lmao ur dumb. Those are not meant to do that unless you had them improperly inflated. I'm guessing you had them overinflated.
@@theenzoferrari458 I'm an experienced rider racer mechanic, and I trail brake a lot.
I experimented with various pressures per Dave Moss tuning if ya know who he is.
Steering head bearings swing arm bearings are good.
Suspensions tight n properly adjusted.
It obviously was the tires.
It's a heavy bike that thats hard on front tires and encourages aggressive riding.
Hi Mark, Would you put a Road 6 or an Angel GT II on my VFR 800? Back in Perth Australia I'm getting much more summer weather than Spokane! I have Pirelli Diablo Rosso III on my old CBR 900RR and they stick to the black top like wet toffee to carpet!
I wonder if an R1200RT, 1 up with moderately loaded panniers is too heavy for these.
Got the road 6 gt on my fz1n since last month. Very good tyre.
Just copped mines the other day!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Love the 5s. Never seem to get all the life out of them as I seem to have a nail and screw magnet on my rims. They do handle great both dry and wet. I look forward to trying the 6.
If you don't already try to ride wear the other cars have their tyres go across the road.
That way you have less chance of getting a puncture as all the others cars suck that shit up for you.
how is it compared to metzeler Z8 ?
In the UK we love these for wet grip and I've used 3-4-5 in the past. I have set of 6 waiting to put on my KTM.
waiting for the diablo rosso 4 review
just fittted my 12gs with these have them for 2 weeks now been in rain and dry and im most def impressed. Going through the corners is effortless riding in the rain was very stable and planted felt totally fine riding the back roads at 60mph. have my psi at 42 and feels really great.
My Concours14 seems to chew through Road 5GTs, especially the rears. I live in Iowa and head out to Montana and Wyoming in August. I think that 80+ mph with headwinds squares them off. I tend to replace my tires early because I don’t like trying to find tires on the road. The Road 5 is still the only tire that I will run on it.
@@IRLtrolls my concerns with some of the other tires was with the load rating. The Concours isn’t exactly light weight. I have Roadsmart 2s or 3s on my Z1000, don’t remember which, and they have been good tires. They don’t have to deal with the weight or stresses of pushing the Concours through the air.
@@IRLtrolls That’s good to know. I think my tires wear prematurely due to days on the slab regardless of the brand. I hate to even think of the cost of my next set of tires given inflation, increased oil prices and supply chain nonsense.
@@IRLtrolls have a new set of Road Smart 4s on my Concourse. Had 14K on the Road Smart 3s that were replace but could have put more miles easily on them. Preparing for long road trip is the only reason for the change. Had Metzlers and Perellis on this bike really can't go wrong with any modern tire. Only change is I run a 190/55, little higher load rating plus seems to give more accuracy on the speedometer and the turn in on the big old boat is a little quicker, less effort.
I’ve been liking the Metzler Roadtec SE01 on my C14 4K miles on some of the worst pavement on the planet in the highest temperatures. Seriously pushing them on mountain and desert roads well over 145mph two up and solid as a rock. I did pick up a nail on the way down a mountain pass rear tire and it held form well enough from 80 mph to stop on a treacherous corner.
@@blueberrywilbur315 I used to swear by Metzler tires, but they were kind of slow to the dual compound tire and I kept wearing the middles out of them. Living here in Iowa, I do that anyway, but they were worse than others. I'm sure that they have gotten much better than they were when I ran them on other motorcycles. I think pretty much everything has.
I replaced the Roadtec 01's on my MT10 with the Road 6's. I haven't tested them in the wet as im a fair weather rider, but the dry grip is a step up from the Metzelers. The profile is more pointy and as the bike seems to turn much quicker. I previously dropped the yoke down the fork tops by 10mm with the Metzelers to improve the front end, but may go back up 5mm with the road 6's as they are much quicker to turn in. As for pressures I've found the rear to feel better at around 37psi cold and the front at 35psi cold. I'm a light rider at about 80kg (175lbs) suited. They really are great tyres, and to me at least, a big step up from the Metzeler Roadtec 01's.
Are you referring to the 01 or the 01 SE?
80kg its not “light” 😂
Good to know. Fitted these to an MT10 also.
Has anyone heard issues of pulling left?
I have mounted the Road 6 on my Honda Crosstourer for a month and after 1500km I can say that they are really fantastic. Excellent comfort, excellent grip both at high and low speeds. truly a tire to make kilometers in peace without taking away the sportiness, because I must say that they are also very sporty. Greetings from San Marino and Italy
I have the same bike. Only got 6300 miles of my Road 5 tires. I'm going for the road 6. Did you buy the GT version or standard?
@@thingblaze5754 hello, I have the standard version, then I think the GT version is for other sizes, there is no Honda Crosstourer
They definitely wont last 18k miles. I barely got 6k miles out of them. However I always ride them hard with 2.4bar front and 2.8b rear. Versys 1000 non GT version.
Have road 6 on cb 500 road home in a down pour yesterday and I say I have no complaints
Used, and loved, Pilot Road 5 on my Ducati 696 and now I will be using the Road 6 on my current Triumph Speed Twin.
can confirm these have improved my ride no contest; tbf i'm coming from the dealer dunlops after i purchased my bike put like 3k on them .
It's looking like that my next set of tires will be the Michelin Road 6 GT for my 2017 Chieftain Limited.
Was more happy with the road5 tyres. They changed the pattern by meking it deeper and longer. Also they defenetly changed the profile/ angle og the tyre. More of a touring tyre now. I reccomend power 5 to anybody wanting to do something else than just touring
I had the Road V's on my 2015 CBR1000RR which is for touring only ( non-interstate wherever possible ). I keep very detailed tire mileage records and, when I removed the V's, my projection was for a total of 15,000 miles. Pretty good but I thought it should have been slightly higher for such a light bike. But, that was still 2,000 miles more than for my Pirelli Angel GT II's and for the Dunlop Roadsmart IV's. I'll give the VI's a try for sure.
Once I burn through my new Power 5s I’m getting these. They have a nice mix of the Power 5 and Road 5 tread pattern without that interlocking band of tread the Road 5s have. I had a tendency to find that band in curves at the absolutely worst times.
If some on a R model bike and get 18,000 miles out of the rear why did they buy a R bike. This rider would go datk side he could 100,000 miles out of a car tire . Lol.
I ride 1400 concours and on this tire I didn't make it 2,000 miles and the ceter was gone along with the wear on the side was chewed up.
I just ran though a new s22 and it made it 1700 miles . I ride nothing but curves. I just put a gt4 on and it seems to all ready be holding up better after 300 miles.
The Road 5's on my Tracer are great! 5k on them and they still look brand new!
Have they improved the steering precision? I bought 2 bikes (BMW R1100S and Honda VFR1200) that came with PR4s. Both bikes felt numb just off center. I switched to Dunlops RoadSmarts and found the handling to be more precise.