Diane sounds so calm, kind and reasonable in the phone call. It shows how much Bojack did appreciate her, although he and her probably rarely had conversations that were actually that peaceful because of what kind of people they used to be.
The Netflix auto-skip really did a number on this episode, so many people got the wrong ideas because they never saw the most important part of the ending.
@EversPrimeTime Like others have said, it was almost certainly intentional. It was meant to surprise most people who did not wait until after the skip.
I can't get over how terrifying it is listening to Secretariat reading "The View From Halfway Down." The panic in his voice building and not wanting to go. But, like the poem says, he's already jumped, so it's too late. Just so much to unpack here. At the dinner, they're all eating their last meals, the tar that Charlotte warned Bojack about way back. I agree with the series canon that Bojack did actually survive the events of this episode, and I love the final episode, but this would have been one hell of a series-ending cliffhanger if they had chosen to do it that way.
@@EversPrimeTime Just a curiosity, but his poem has 3 parts and each of them is in third, second and first person, symbolizing when he hits the ground in... 3, 2, 1.
if you notice, they all were eating their last meals in the dinner table, bj was eating pills, sarah lynn was eating mcdonalds, jacksonjackson was eating a lemon, the mom was eating the goop youd be served in a nursing home, and the army guy was eating an MRE
Little thing to point out here: Bojack realizes that he was dying 17 minutes into the episode. 17 minutes. The same time he waited to call somebody to get Sarah Lynn.
The callback to season 1 episode 3 😢 Bojacks speach to Sarah Lynn under the table on the Horsin' Around set... She sings her version of "Don't stop dancing" and one of the last lyrics is... "A song you taught me when I was small" 😢😢😢
Fun Fact: this was the last episode nominated for an Emmy and it lost to Rick and Morty's The Vat of Acid Episode which made it so Bojack Horseman never won a singular Emmy.
@@d4c467 honestly, i think it's also pretty fitting in a way that it never won an emmy but that's if you see it just inside of the show but it really shouldve had some "outside" recognition
It's sad it never won, and I agree this is the better episode, only reason I can think of for R&M winning is that The Vat of Acid stands on its own much better than TVFHWD, which woulnd't make much sense if you don't watch the whole show and pay attention to it
Anybody else notice how Sarah Lynn was the first party to “be done”? I say that, cuz if we recall one of her quotes from S1E3, she said, “I'm at a place right now where I never need to grow as a person or rise to an occasion because I can constantly just surround myself with sycophants and enablers until I die tragically young.” And while that quote is foreshadowing on its own to how Bojack treated her in S3E11, I’d like to highlight her very next quote that followed, There was the second part too, “Yeah…it’s pretty much too late for me…” as if to say she was *done*, even back then. Resigned to it as well 🥺
Beautifully put about Beatrice's 'graceful' death, especially since she didn't have a graceful end like she would have wanted. It's somewhat nice that BoJack wants that for her in his subconscious.
hydrangeas (the flowers he brought beatrice) are poisonous to horses. as far as Beatrice and crackerjacks performance, i feel like what she means for the easy part was letting the death of crackerjack consume her
Aside from the graceful part, I like that the black ink devours her before she gets into the door. Like the dementia effectively killing her before actual death.
The black stuff dripping from the ceiling and in the door is tar... reference to the La Brea Tar Pits, located in Los Angeles. They've been used as a metaphor for Hollywood and the entertainment industry, depression, etc a few times throughout the show. Charlotte in one of the flashbacks in S1E8 for example: - "Look over there. See those tar pits? Hollywood's a real pretty town that's smack on top of all that black tar. By the time you realize you're sinking, it's too late." Charlotte calling back to that in S2E11, after Bojack asked if she still thinks LA is a tar pit: - "I think you’re the tar pit [...] It doesn't matter where you are, it's who you are, and that's not gonna change whether you're in California or Maine or New Mexico. You know, you can't escape you."
The "Oil" is actually Tar, a callback to Charlotte saying "Hollywood is on top of a tar pit" and then "You are actually the tar pit" in ep 11 of season 2
@@EversPrimeTime All the same though, welcome to the club, friend. I don't know a single soul that didn't break watching this episode. More reaction channels need to cover this masterpiece of a show.
The poem goes through third person, second person and first person. The poem is literally a countdown of 3-2-1. The door to the abyss also chases him, getting closer and closer much like the water approaching him as fell. We watch as Sarah Lynn grows up throughout the episode, much like how Bojack knew her for her entire life. Her and Bojack walk to the house right when the episode begins, like how he literally brought her to the afterlife. Each character is eating something that somewhat relates to their death. Herb with the peanuts that he was allergic to, Crackerjack a can of rations he would eat in war for example. Lastly, when Bojack tell Sara Lynn he won't make it to the show, saying he'll wake up, it's a call back when Bojack tells Dr Champ about a dinner he dreams of about the people who are gone (I can't remember which episode..)
There's so much to unpack here, Johnny 2 Cellos' "Confronting Mortality | "The View from Halfway Down" Explained" video is a great watch to see everything we mightve missed on this episode
the poem The View From Halfway Down is describing how he jumped to off himseIf and how, while falling, he realized he doesn't want to dle, which is how many survivors of sui.ide attempts describe it. They started regretting it once they were falling.
This episode is so tough. I think what's saddest is that it's all happening in Bojack's head - did Crackerjack really not accomplish anything by enlisting? We don't know, but that's how Bojack feels. Did his dad really care? Like you said - it's in Bojack's head, so we don't know. Same with Herb's "there is no other side", it really illustrates Bojack's worldview and how terrified he is of death.
@@EversPrimeTime It's one of those shows that from start to finish is a beautiful creation. I like a lot of TV. However, there is nothing like Bojack Horseman. You can't watch it and come out the same person. You grow with it.
The most tragic part about all of this is that Bojack is imagining what these people would say and think about their lives. He is imagining finding closure with his father. He always wanted closure with his parents. Season 1 Bojack was a liar when he talked about closure being made up by Steven Spielberg I suppose. He is imagining Herb saying that the best parts of his life were after he got fired from the show. One final attempt at forgiving himself for not fighting for Herb I suppose. And then theres the Crackerjack joke about him only killing allied soldiers. Is that just a joke or does Bojack want to find a way to match up with his long dead uncle, prove to his dead mother that he is worthier of love.
Hey Ever, btw the black stuff in this episode is supposed to be Tar. In reference to the two conversations he had with Charolette, where she later revises that “you’re the Tar pit”.
The poem scene gets me every freaking time. I'm honestly stuck on whether this would be the worst choice for a person coping with depression to watch, or a great thing to watch. It's like the Worthless song from The Brave Little Toaster.
Even though this episode was very hard to watch, it was incredibly well done. There was so much symbolism and there were so many little easter eggs, it's definitely worth a rewatch if you can stomach it. In particular, pay close attention to the meals that everyone is having before the show. Glad you didn't push yourself to watch another episode right now though, don't force it🙂see you next time
The end of this episode is a protest by the writers against the fact Netflix always cuts to the next episode before the full credits have rolled. They mentioned it in an earlier episode in this series, I think through Princess Caroline.
Ho boy!!! The View From Halfway Down. I know you probably recorded this about a month or so back but you're finally here on YT. I am excited to see how it hit you because I remember how this episode SHATTERED me. I remember binging these episodes and having to take like a full 2-3 hour break to finish it out after watching this one. It is BRUTAL but I hope you enjoyed
Holly! Absolutely loved it. Sadness aside, an absolute joy of an experience to get to this point. My only regret, is that I can never experience it for the first time again.
You were saying "He probably drowns in the pool" the Whole Time but there's something about seeing it at 12:38 the shock on your face is as real as when we saw it when it first came out the moment of this is. it that he's Actually Dying this time and there's nothing he can do about it
Yep, that was my #1 thought, but I didn't *actually* ever expect it to happen. It just seemed too "obvious"? But yeah, seeing it happen and not being able to do anything...I was not really expecting it haha
I really like how everyone's method of going through the door reflected their actual deaths. Sarah Lynn was never happy with life, she died on a reckless bender that she knew was dangerous. So she turned away from the door and fell backward, taking an action she knew would get her there without facing it directly. Corduroy Jackson Jackson flew through the door in an uncontrolled swing of the aerialist ropes, just like his real death was an accident. Zach Braff was murdered in the fictional reality of the show, so he passed through because BoJack pushed him. Neither were his choice. Secretariat had the door inevitably drawing closer, just like the water after he jumped. He was calm at first, but eventually went struggling and unwilling. Crackerjack saluted and gave a military phrase before passing through the door. He was a soldier, his death was his duty. But he was tied to Beatrice. His death had a huge impact on the ones he left behind. Beatrice didn't go through the door, the tar came out of the door and consumed her. She had dementia, everything that made "Beatrice" was gone before her body died. Herb was similar, with the tar coming out and eating away at his body like the cancer did. But he remained lucid to the end, as the cancer didn't have an effect on his mind.
The scene from the intro where he's in the pool already happened back when he didn't win the Oscar. Mr. Peanutbutter is the one who pulled him out then.
7:29 Sometimes it's like that. I must admit, that begs the question, do you actually want to die? If something so arbitrary as a franchise' success can stave the thoughts, how strong are they really? Coming from someone who has tried to rid myself on multiple occasions, I dont know what any of it really means. Sometimes, it simply drips...drips...drips...
Recapitulating... Bojack Horseman was staring a 90's famous tv show called Horsin´ Around. Co-staring by a girl named Sarah Lyhn, and written by his friend Herb Kazzas. 1x08: Bojack learning from Herb how on real life, things doesn´t work like sitcoms. 2x11: Bojack understood by his actions in New Mexico he couldn't escape from the life he chose on Hollywoo. 3x03: Bojack seeing isnt selfish thinking in your own happiness in others things that money and success. 3x04: Bojack reflecting about his own loneliness under the sea. 4x02: Bojack enduring grief for his spiritual daugther's death on his grandparents house 4x11: Bojack trying to break the abuse cycle with his mother, giving her confort for his dislike. 5x06: Bojack finds out that a stranger gave more for him than his mother did in her entire unhappy life. 5x10-11: Bojack understand that he's a bad person by how his adiction made him lost Philbert TV Show and Gina Cazador. 3x11: Bojack seeing on the planetarium a place where he took a decision that there was't coming back; a dark secret that would fall part his entire world if it comes out.
Spoilers for the last episode It's kinda disappointing that Netflix skipped the outro, since it would have made it clearer that BoJack survived, since it goes from a flatline to a *beep*.
This was 100% intentional actually. Raphael hates Netflix's Autoplay feature and feels it does a disservice to all the amazing writers and animators when Netflix skips over their names in the credits. He intentionally put it after the auto skip to reward those who watched the episode to the very end.
its still an absolute shock to me that this lost the emmy to rick and morty’s the vat of acid episode like dont get me wrong its a good episode but like, cmon the view from halfway down is one of the best in all of television
Man, the tears always start flowing when BoJack asks if he can just stay on the line with Diane. When I was feeling suicidal, facing down death like BoJack is here, that's all I wanted. Just someone to be with me.
This episode is just an absolute masterpiece, best in the series and it had a lot of competition for that spot. The one thing I don't 100% understand is the symbolism of the bird. But the scenes with Secretariat are so tragic. The poem is haunting and believe it or not, created for the show. It took me a while to accept it wasn't some preexisting famous poem. And the title, "View from Halfway Down" contrasts to the claim he made during "Best part, worst part" that "You shoulda seen the view from up there" when he claims the best part was throwing himself off the bridge because he was able to go out on his own terms. I think this says a lot about the mindset of suicidal people because they do say that there is a calm that precedes an attempt because the person can relax having decided that whatever is bothering them will cease soon. Secretariat was in a blissful euphoric high thinking he was going to escape all his problems by ending his life. Cus if you think about it, his comment makes no sense other than to be the opposite of his emotions while describing the view from halfway down. He was on a major bridge in California. Thousands of people drive, bike, or walk across there every day. It's not some rare hard to get view, it is a sight millions of people have seen. But he was seeing it differently because it wasn't just the view, but his mental state when he worked himself up mentally to jump.
"I wish i could have known about the view from halfway down" having been suicidal, this quote hit so hard with the context being of him jumping off as his death.. This episode was such a masterpiece, full of references and easter egg too that its hard to remember all like for example i know that the bird means something but i cant remember haha. But man, having Sarah-Lyn grow up during the episode (probably the person he knew for the biggest of their life, like % wise lets say) and Herb being from when they were still struggling but still best buds, his mom in her prime and also probably at the point of her life she had the biggest influence on him because he ended up trying not to care what she tought and just accepted that he hated her. Also the fact that everyone was eating their last meals before they died at the dinner is so nice The dream was not necessarily just bender related i think too, he spoke with dr Champ how he kept dreaming he has dinner with the ones in his life deceased, but like he said waking up before the show. The show itself is amazing, Sarah-Lyn’s number having a soft and a deranged part wich represents her so well, Zach just slowly rolling to his death and instead of doing anything to stop it he just keeps lamenting, and Beatrice dancing with CrackerJack playing their song (Bojack said too at her funeral, the only time he saw his mom live or seem a little happy was when she danced at her party nights 🥺). The whole discussion with Secretaria/his dad is so weird too cause its definitely his brain telling him what he wants to hear or is it the fact that hes an adult now so can judge character better and there are memories we havent seen so was he really just playing up being the tough bad guy? Very hard to say honestly but them being mixed up is definitely because as a child Bojack idolized him so hard he probably wished he was his dad. And lastly, the whole black goop can be explain i think by the fact that Bojack is atheist so he doesnt believe in an after life and him being a nihilist it just goes with the idea that everything is just black without sound or feeling forever, absolutely nothing. Man i was so invested in the video (ive been waiting for it too haha) next week is gonna be a hard goodbye but still, theres more shows to come 🙃. By the way dont worry i was just jawdropped on first watch so the fact you still talked is amazing already lol. And lastly, after all of my fourth watch and having seen some reactions to it, youre the first person to make me realize that Bojack chair was in fact a coffin 😂 never saw it lol. Keep it up man, great video as always 😁
This episode is so masterfully done. I feel like to a degree some of it was lost on me, because I've never been in a space that dark - but I see how it resonates with people. It really is a special episode for SO many reasons. The attention to detail and love given to this one is just beyond anything else. I'm glad I could finally catch something that you didn't! 🤣 Thanks for watching Walak!
Great reaction, you should definitely watch game of thrones, people love watching others react to it because of the crazy and heartbreaking plot twists besides you’ll have the time of your life with it
Most disturbing television episode I've ever seen. The show conditioned us to get ready for the penultimate episode, I knew this one would be especially horrible, and I still wasn't prepared.
@@EversPrimeTime this episode is such an emotional roller coaster with all the symbolism.. “at death’s door” being so appropriately modeled… the way the door ominously approaches the presumed jumper - out of his control - but almost not as adrenaline makes time stand somewhat still - as he falls toward his death, expressing the immediate regrets most suicidal people who have survived say they felt. Sarah Lynn’s almost jarring transition from ballad to pop. The terror of the exit door closing out of nowhere with the shadow of his own imminent death hanging over him… The fun and comforting showmanship of Herb Kazazz, the absolute mystery of the bird in the house no one can figure out other than it being a bad omen, the weird trippy dream elements scattered in, the building of sadness as the darkness closes in. It’s just… a lot. I personally felt myself close myself off and become numb to what was happening because the hurt was just too much the first time around. Definitely cried though at the end. That wasn’t a knife twist, that was full-on impalement
Man... Never seen this episode get so disrespected before. The constant tryhard gremlin voice. All the forced fake laughs and barely paying attention, especially during the powerful poem. Notice how every other reaction to this episode has everyone in the comments sharing their experiences with the reactor and having a genuine discussion about this wonderful work of art. But here in this comments section, it's just everyone blurting shallow trivia about the episode everyone and their mother already knows. This reactor has the personality of a chair or a supermodel. Nobody wants to engage with him in the comments lol.
So - instead of being the change you want to see in the comments, you decided to just insult someone you don't know. You realize this is a first time watch right? So not everyone and their mother knows all the "shallow trivia". The only bum comment on the entire video. You may leave the community, don't let the door hit you on the way out 🙏
@@gonzalovalenzuela3953 That's fine. My reactions aren't going to be for everyone, I accepted that a while ago. If you don't want to watch, I don't care. But to state I'm fake, just because YOU don't like the reaction is just childish. Just move on to the next video.
@@gonzalovalenzuela3953 😂😂😂 2k views for less than $1 in ad rev is nowhere near enough to get me to force myself to do anything. But again, keep spreading hate on random UA-cam videos because you've got nothing better going on 🫡
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I need the next episode on YT. The limbo is killing me. I tried the Patreon, but there was no YT early access. I need the next one. 😭
@@ivankawnartist Ivan! Next Monday! It'll be here :) yt membership has all the edited early access 😶😅
@@EversPrimeTime Damn! Too late now. I'll just have to wait.
Bojack realizes he’s dying 17 minutes into the episode
for real??
@@rocamboleqYep
whats the significance of this?
@@mrmeeseeks299 Sarah Lynn
@@mrmeeseeks299 bojack say in the parking lot of the planetarium for 17 minutes before call the paramedics for Sarah Lynn
Ever, in season 1: "Funny horse show."
Ever, in season 6: "Existential crisis horse show."
The show was funny...and then it made me cry 🤣
Diane sounds so calm, kind and reasonable in the phone call.
It shows how much Bojack did appreciate her, although he and her probably rarely had conversations that were actually that peaceful because of what kind of people they used to be.
Yeah, hearing Diane calm - I felt like it was her being stern/over it. But calm is a much better take on that bit.
The Netflix auto-skip really did a number on this episode, so many people got the wrong ideas because they never saw the most important part of the ending.
I'm one of themmmm. Yeah, it seriously changes how someone may see how the show ends.
I think that was intentional on the shows part. The heart starts beeping immediately after the 3 seconds
@@EversPrimeTimeI do think it was intentional
@EversPrimeTime Like others have said, it was almost certainly intentional. It was meant to surprise most people who did not wait until after the skip.
I can't get over how terrifying it is listening to Secretariat reading "The View From Halfway Down." The panic in his voice building and not wanting to go. But, like the poem says, he's already jumped, so it's too late. Just so much to unpack here. At the dinner, they're all eating their last meals, the tar that Charlotte warned Bojack about way back. I agree with the series canon that Bojack did actually survive the events of this episode, and I love the final episode, but this would have been one hell of a series-ending cliffhanger if they had chosen to do it that way.
The acting is superb
Yeah, I didn't know about the *lovely* Netflix auto play situation. Had I known that, I'd be in the camp that he's alive, for sure!
@@EversPrimeTime Just a curiosity, but his poem has 3 parts and each of them is in third, second and first person, symbolizing when he hits the ground in... 3, 2, 1.
if you notice, they all were eating their last meals in the dinner table, bj was eating pills, sarah lynn was eating mcdonalds, jacksonjackson was eating a lemon, the mom was eating the goop youd be served in a nursing home, and the army guy was eating an MRE
Not to mention Zach Braff, who went out providing food for others
I only realized in editing - such a wild detail.
Genuinely one of the greatest episodes of television ever
👏👏👏
When he’s panicking
You notice how herb is much more consoling and caring than his own mother is.
Makes me feel even worse for what went down with Herb 😭
Little thing to point out here:
Bojack realizes that he was dying 17 minutes into the episode. 17 minutes. The same time he waited to call somebody to get Sarah Lynn.
also sarah lynn stayed with the door 17 seconds before she jumps and she's the only one who stares at death(door)
The callback to season 1 episode 3 😢
Bojacks speach to Sarah Lynn under the table on the Horsin' Around set...
She sings her version of "Don't stop dancing" and one of the last lyrics is...
"A song you taught me when I was small" 😢😢😢
Fun Fact: this was the last episode nominated for an Emmy and it lost to Rick and Morty's The Vat of Acid Episode which made it so Bojack Horseman never won a singular Emmy.
I love Rick and Morty but this episode should definitely have won, no doubt in my mind.
Love me some Rick and Morty. That episode has not diddly squat on this one. That's CRAZY.
Oh my god, the series keeps it continuing in real life too
@@d4c467 honestly, i think it's also pretty fitting in a way that it never won an emmy but that's if you see it just inside of the show but it really shouldve had some "outside" recognition
It's sad it never won, and I agree this is the better episode, only reason I can think of for R&M winning is that The Vat of Acid stands on its own much better than TVFHWD, which woulnd't make much sense if you don't watch the whole show and pay attention to it
Anybody else notice how Sarah Lynn was the first party to “be done”? I say that, cuz if we recall one of her quotes from S1E3, she said, “I'm at a place right now where I never need to grow as a person or rise to an occasion because I can constantly just surround myself with sycophants and enablers until I die tragically young.” And while that quote is foreshadowing on its own to how Bojack treated her in S3E11, I’d like to highlight her very next quote that followed,
There was the second part too, “Yeah…it’s pretty much too late for me…” as if to say she was *done*, even back then. Resigned to it as well 🥺
Beautifully put about Beatrice's 'graceful' death, especially since she didn't have a graceful end like she would have wanted. It's somewhat nice that BoJack wants that for her in his subconscious.
Of all of them, that one really struck me. A lot of people talk about the poem, but Beatrice's was special I felt.
hydrangeas (the flowers he brought beatrice) are poisonous to horses. as far as Beatrice and crackerjacks performance, i feel like what she means for the easy part was letting the death of crackerjack consume her
Aside from the graceful part, I like that the black ink devours her before she gets into the door. Like the dementia effectively killing her before actual death.
The black stuff dripping from the ceiling and in the door is tar... reference to the La Brea Tar Pits, located in Los Angeles. They've been used as a metaphor for Hollywood and the entertainment industry, depression, etc a few times throughout the show.
Charlotte in one of the flashbacks in S1E8 for example:
- "Look over there. See those tar pits? Hollywood's a real pretty town that's smack on top of all that black tar. By the time you realize you're sinking, it's too late."
Charlotte calling back to that in S2E11, after Bojack asked if she still thinks LA is a tar pit:
- "I think you’re the tar pit [...] It doesn't matter where you are, it's who you are, and that's not gonna change whether you're in California or Maine or New Mexico. You know, you can't escape you."
Ahhh! Thank you!
The "Oil" is actually Tar, a callback to Charlotte saying "Hollywood is on top of a tar pit" and then "You are actually the tar pit" in ep 11 of season 2
What a call back. Thank you!
I think my personal favorite moment in this episode was Bojack talking to his dad as Secretariat.
I internalized so much of what they said.
I've never had an experience like that, so it was hard for me to relate. But, it was still phenomenal tv.
@@EversPrimeTime All the same though, welcome to the club, friend. I don't know a single soul that didn't break watching this episode.
More reaction channels need to cover this masterpiece of a show.
The most iconic episode in the series, in my opinion. People get tattoos of quotes from this one often.
100%, of all the episodes I'll remember, this is one. Which isn't shocking, but my memory is horrible so... 🤣
I only just now realised that Herb was eating peanuts... How did I not see that before?
Greatest episode of television
The episode worth every praise
Incredibly!
I keep the secretariat poem in the back of my head anytime I’m feeling low cause damn it gives a bit of perspective
Fuck man. This episode never fails to make me start bawling whenever the flatline hits. No matter how many times I've seen this.
In his therapy in rehab Bojack mentioned that he has had this dream many times
The poem goes through third person, second person and first person. The poem is literally a countdown of 3-2-1. The door to the abyss also chases him, getting closer and closer much like the water approaching him as fell.
We watch as Sarah Lynn grows up throughout the episode, much like how Bojack knew her for her entire life. Her and Bojack walk to the house right when the episode begins, like how he literally brought her to the afterlife.
Each character is eating something that somewhat relates to their death. Herb with the peanuts that he was allergic to, Crackerjack a can of rations he would eat in war for example.
Lastly, when Bojack tell Sara Lynn he won't make it to the show, saying he'll wake up, it's a call back when Bojack tells Dr Champ about a dinner he dreams of about the people who are gone (I can't remember which episode..)
There's so much to unpack here, Johnny 2 Cellos' "Confronting Mortality | "The View from Halfway Down" Explained" video is a great watch to see everything we mightve missed on this episode
the poem The View From Halfway Down is describing how he jumped to off himseIf and how, while falling, he realized he doesn't want to dle, which is how many survivors of sui.ide attempts describe it. They
started regretting it once they were falling.
This whole journey of the show, I feel is worth this one episode. My the most favorite of them all.
Agreed. I'd rewatch for this episode alone.
OH MY FREAKING GOSH HE GOT TI THIS EPISODE!!
WE HERE. WE SAD.
@@EversPrimeTime Gosh, aren’t you glad you got to watch the silly lil horse show? :D
This episode is so tough. I think what's saddest is that it's all happening in Bojack's head - did Crackerjack really not accomplish anything by enlisting? We don't know, but that's how Bojack feels. Did his dad really care? Like you said - it's in Bojack's head, so we don't know. Same with Herb's "there is no other side", it really illustrates Bojack's worldview and how terrified he is of death.
This show is ao heavy. S1 to S6 is such a change.
No kidding. S1 is not how I thought we'd get to S6
@@EversPrimeTime It's one of those shows that from start to finish is a beautiful creation. I like a lot of TV. However, there is nothing like Bojack Horseman. You can't watch it and come out the same person. You grow with it.
No spoilers, but Netflix is a real troll for cutting to the next episode right there in the credits
10000000000%
The show's creator did it on purpose because he hates the auto skip option.
Netflix cut off the flatline to beep at the end.
Literally ruined it :/
The most tragic part about all of this is that Bojack is imagining what these people would say and think about their lives.
He is imagining finding closure with his father. He always wanted closure with his parents. Season 1 Bojack was a liar when he talked about closure being made up by Steven Spielberg I suppose.
He is imagining Herb saying that the best parts of his life were after he got fired from the show. One final attempt at forgiving himself for not fighting for Herb I suppose.
And then theres the Crackerjack joke about him only killing allied soldiers. Is that just a joke or does Bojack want to find a way to match up with his long dead uncle, prove to his dead mother that he is worthier of love.
I mean, closure can be false and still be something he wants. Those aren't mutually exclusive.
@@RasmusVJS Either way, he is lying to himself.
Well...that's something I hadn't thought about 👀 Obviously makes sense, but yeah...I think I took it a bit too face value haha
I’m gonna miss this series when it ends
😭
Hey Ever, btw the black stuff in this episode is supposed to be Tar. In reference to the two conversations he had with Charolette, where she later revises that “you’re the Tar pit”.
The poem scene gets me every freaking time.
I'm honestly stuck on whether this would be the worst choice for a person coping with depression to watch, or a great thing to watch.
It's like the Worthless song from The Brave Little Toaster.
I've read comments about people not commiting suicide because of this episode, so assuming that those were true, probably mostly good.
For me it was horrible watching this for the first time
I have had *several* irl friends tell me they haven't finished the series due to headspace. I'm honestly not sure how they'd view this episode
Even though this episode was very hard to watch, it was incredibly well done. There was so much symbolism and there were so many little easter eggs, it's definitely worth a rewatch if you can stomach it. In particular, pay close attention to the meals that everyone is having before the show. Glad you didn't push yourself to watch another episode right now though, don't force it🙂see you next time
A million easter eggs and references. The entire series is worth going through for this episode alone.
The end of this episode is a protest by the writers against the fact Netflix always cuts to the next episode before the full credits have rolled. They mentioned it in an earlier episode in this series, I think through Princess Caroline.
Vanity cards! Boxer vs Raptor, neenerneenerneener!
just finnished watching this show today, maybe the best episode of animation
Ho boy!!! The View From Halfway Down. I know you probably recorded this about a month or so back but you're finally here on YT. I am excited to see how it hit you because I remember how this episode SHATTERED me. I remember binging these episodes and having to take like a full 2-3 hour break to finish it out after watching this one. It is BRUTAL but I hope you enjoyed
Holly! Absolutely loved it. Sadness aside, an absolute joy of an experience to get to this point. My only regret, is that I can never experience it for the first time again.
OH No this one NOBODY was ready for THIS ONE
Not one lil bit
You were saying "He probably drowns in the pool" the Whole Time but there's something about seeing it at 12:38 the shock on your face is as real as when we saw it when it first came out the moment of this is. it that he's Actually Dying this time and there's nothing he can do about it
Yep, that was my #1 thought, but I didn't *actually* ever expect it to happen. It just seemed too "obvious"? But yeah, seeing it happen and not being able to do anything...I was not really expecting it haha
Great reaction!
Damn, what an episode!
I really like how everyone's method of going through the door reflected their actual deaths.
Sarah Lynn was never happy with life, she died on a reckless bender that she knew was dangerous. So she turned away from the door and fell backward, taking an action she knew would get her there without facing it directly.
Corduroy Jackson Jackson flew through the door in an uncontrolled swing of the aerialist ropes, just like his real death was an accident.
Zach Braff was murdered in the fictional reality of the show, so he passed through because BoJack pushed him. Neither were his choice.
Secretariat had the door inevitably drawing closer, just like the water after he jumped. He was calm at first, but eventually went struggling and unwilling.
Crackerjack saluted and gave a military phrase before passing through the door. He was a soldier, his death was his duty. But he was tied to Beatrice. His death had a huge impact on the ones he left behind.
Beatrice didn't go through the door, the tar came out of the door and consumed her. She had dementia, everything that made "Beatrice" was gone before her body died.
Herb was similar, with the tar coming out and eating away at his body like the cancer did. But he remained lucid to the end, as the cancer didn't have an effect on his mind.
The scene from the intro where he's in the pool already happened back when he didn't win the Oscar. Mr. Peanutbutter is the one who pulled him out then.
Yeah but Diane wasn't there. I don't think it ever happened and it's just a thing that's in the intro and nothing more
Ahh!
I think about this episode almost daily, it’s beautiful and hits hard. Been waiting for this episode to drop for so long
you really didn't get why his dad looks like Secretariat?
7:29 Sometimes it's like that. I must admit, that begs the question, do you actually want to die? If something so arbitrary as a franchise' success can stave the thoughts, how strong are they really?
Coming from someone who has tried to rid myself on multiple occasions, I dont know what any of it really means. Sometimes, it simply drips...drips...drips...
Recapitulating... Bojack Horseman was staring a 90's famous tv show called Horsin´ Around. Co-staring by a girl named Sarah Lyhn, and written by his friend Herb Kazzas.
1x08: Bojack learning from Herb how on real life, things doesn´t work like sitcoms.
2x11: Bojack understood by his actions in New Mexico he couldn't escape from the life he chose on Hollywoo.
3x03: Bojack seeing isnt selfish thinking in your own happiness in others things that money and success.
3x04: Bojack reflecting about his own loneliness under the sea.
4x02: Bojack enduring grief for his spiritual daugther's death on his grandparents house
4x11: Bojack trying to break the abuse cycle with his mother, giving her confort for his dislike.
5x06: Bojack finds out that a stranger gave more for him than his mother did in her entire unhappy life.
5x10-11: Bojack understand that he's a bad person by how his adiction made him lost Philbert TV Show and Gina Cazador.
3x11: Bojack seeing on the planetarium a place where he took a decision that there was't coming back; a dark secret that would fall part his entire world if it comes out.
Spoilers for the last episode
It's kinda disappointing that Netflix skipped the outro, since it would have made it clearer that BoJack survived, since it goes from a flatline to a *beep*.
Yeah, the auto skip REALLY changed the way I thought everything ended - and my perception about what was going on in the next. big disappointing.
This was 100% intentional actually. Raphael hates Netflix's Autoplay feature and feels it does a disservice to all the amazing writers and animators when Netflix skips over their names in the credits. He intentionally put it after the auto skip to reward those who watched the episode to the very end.
its still an absolute shock to me that this lost the emmy to rick and morty’s the vat of acid episode like dont get me wrong its a good episode but like, cmon the view from halfway down is one of the best in all of television
Yep, someone else mentioned that - Bojack should've won it. I love RnM but that was the wrong move.
1:26 this is the closest Gravity Falls x Owl House crossover we ever got
(This is to say, Mable & Eda’s voice actresses having a convo together)
LMAO, this is the uplifting comment I needed.
I hate that Netflix cuts it off before the beeps start up again, but also, maybe i don't hate that...
This series is soo damn good. Sad it only lasted 6 seasons..
It's SO good. But I'm thankful we got 6 seasons and a finale, rather than 10 seasons and a bleh ending
Man, the tears always start flowing when BoJack asks if he can just stay on the line with Diane. When I was feeling suicidal, facing down death like BoJack is here, that's all I wanted. Just someone to be with me.
This episode is just an absolute masterpiece, best in the series and it had a lot of competition for that spot. The one thing I don't 100% understand is the symbolism of the bird. But the scenes with Secretariat are so tragic. The poem is haunting and believe it or not, created for the show. It took me a while to accept it wasn't some preexisting famous poem. And the title, "View from Halfway Down" contrasts to the claim he made during "Best part, worst part" that "You shoulda seen the view from up there" when he claims the best part was throwing himself off the bridge because he was able to go out on his own terms. I think this says a lot about the mindset of suicidal people because they do say that there is a calm that precedes an attempt because the person can relax having decided that whatever is bothering them will cease soon. Secretariat was in a blissful euphoric high thinking he was going to escape all his problems by ending his life. Cus if you think about it, his comment makes no sense other than to be the opposite of his emotions while describing the view from halfway down. He was on a major bridge in California. Thousands of people drive, bike, or walk across there every day. It's not some rare hard to get view, it is a sight millions of people have seen. But he was seeing it differently because it wasn't just the view, but his mental state when he worked himself up mentally to jump.
Tough episode to watch. But briliant.
Especially at like 11am 🤣 Good way to start the day lol
"I wish i could have known about the view from halfway down" having been suicidal, this quote hit so hard with the context being of him jumping off as his death.. This episode was such a masterpiece, full of references and easter egg too that its hard to remember all like for example i know that the bird means something but i cant remember haha. But man, having Sarah-Lyn grow up during the episode (probably the person he knew for the biggest of their life, like % wise lets say) and Herb being from when they were still struggling but still best buds, his mom in her prime and also probably at the point of her life she had the biggest influence on him because he ended up trying not to care what she tought and just accepted that he hated her. Also the fact that everyone was eating their last meals before they died at the dinner is so nice The dream was not necessarily just bender related i think too, he spoke with dr Champ how he kept dreaming he has dinner with the ones in his life deceased, but like he said waking up before the show. The show itself is amazing, Sarah-Lyn’s number having a soft and a deranged part wich represents her so well, Zach just slowly rolling to his death and instead of doing anything to stop it he just keeps lamenting, and Beatrice dancing with CrackerJack playing their song (Bojack said too at her funeral, the only time he saw his mom live or seem a little happy was when she danced at her party nights 🥺). The whole discussion with Secretaria/his dad is so weird too cause its definitely his brain telling him what he wants to hear or is it the fact that hes an adult now so can judge character better and there are memories we havent seen so was he really just playing up being the tough bad guy? Very hard to say honestly but them being mixed up is definitely because as a child Bojack idolized him so hard he probably wished he was his dad. And lastly, the whole black goop can be explain i think by the fact that Bojack is atheist so he doesnt believe in an after life and him being a nihilist it just goes with the idea that everything is just black without sound or feeling forever, absolutely nothing. Man i was so invested in the video (ive been waiting for it too haha) next week is gonna be a hard goodbye but still, theres more shows to come 🙃. By the way dont worry i was just jawdropped on first watch so the fact you still talked is amazing already lol. And lastly, after all of my fourth watch and having seen some reactions to it, youre the first person to make me realize that Bojack chair was in fact a coffin 😂 never saw it lol. Keep it up man, great video as always 😁
This episode is so masterfully done. I feel like to a degree some of it was lost on me, because I've never been in a space that dark - but I see how it resonates with people. It really is a special episode for SO many reasons. The attention to detail and love given to this one is just beyond anything else.
I'm glad I could finally catch something that you didn't! 🤣 Thanks for watching Walak!
@@EversPrimeTime thanks to you, your videos are always a pleasure to watch man 😁
This one was a hard watch every time I've seen it
I want to rewatch the series specifically for this episode.
@@EversPrimeTime when's the last episode coming
@@cripstick4336 next Monday!
@@EversPrimeTime 👍
This and churro are so good and dark
Great reaction, you should definitely watch game of thrones, people love watching others react to it because of the crazy and heartbreaking plot twists besides you’ll have the time of your life with it
Most disturbing television episode I've ever seen. The show conditioned us to get ready for the penultimate episode, I knew this one would be especially horrible, and I still wasn't prepared.
Haha funny horse show
HAHA FUNNY SO FUNNY AM SO SAD HAHA 😅😥
@@EversPrimeTime this episode is such an emotional roller coaster with all the symbolism.. “at death’s door” being so appropriately modeled… the way the door ominously approaches the presumed jumper - out of his control - but almost not as adrenaline makes time stand somewhat still - as he falls toward his death, expressing the immediate regrets most suicidal people who have survived say they felt. Sarah Lynn’s almost jarring transition from ballad to pop. The terror of the exit door closing out of nowhere with the shadow of his own imminent death hanging over him… The fun and comforting showmanship of Herb Kazazz, the absolute mystery of the bird in the house no one can figure out other than it being a bad omen, the weird trippy dream elements scattered in, the building of sadness as the darkness closes in. It’s just… a lot. I personally felt myself close myself off and become numb to what was happening because the hurt was just too much the first time around. Definitely cried though at the end. That wasn’t a knife twist, that was full-on impalement
One more to go. 😢
It's been fun...as fun as can be at least lol
It was nice while it lasted.
Bojack doesn’t believe in anything so he doesn’t deserve a happy afterlife. Especially the sht he pulled, grooming.
Man... Never seen this episode get so disrespected before. The constant tryhard gremlin voice. All the forced fake laughs and barely paying attention, especially during the powerful poem.
Notice how every other reaction to this episode has everyone in the comments sharing their experiences with the reactor and having a genuine discussion about this wonderful work of art. But here in this comments section, it's just everyone blurting shallow trivia about the episode everyone and their mother already knows. This reactor has the personality of a chair or a supermodel. Nobody wants to engage with him in the comments lol.
So - instead of being the change you want to see in the comments, you decided to just insult someone you don't know. You realize this is a first time watch right? So not everyone and their mother knows all the "shallow trivia". The only bum comment on the entire video. You may leave the community, don't let the door hit you on the way out 🙏
@@EversPrimeTime he's right tho your reaction is so force, looks really fake, i couldn't watch more than 1 minute.
@@gonzalovalenzuela3953 That's fine. My reactions aren't going to be for everyone, I accepted that a while ago. If you don't want to watch, I don't care. But to state I'm fake, just because YOU don't like the reaction is just childish. Just move on to the next video.
@@EversPrimeTime i know that you know you force your reaction to get more views you are not fooling anyone.
@@gonzalovalenzuela3953 😂😂😂 2k views for less than $1 in ad rev is nowhere near enough to get me to force myself to do anything. But again, keep spreading hate on random UA-cam videos because you've got nothing better going on 🫡