Well There's Your Problem | Episode 65: Santiago Calatrava

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  • @michaelruck3936
    @michaelruck3936 3 роки тому +1065

    I am a structural engineer in Switzerland and I have a couple of colleagues who have worked for Santiago Calatrava in his Zurich bureau before quitting in desperation. I have spoken to them independently and all of them tell me this same "joke": If your right ear itches a normal person would scratch it with his/her right hand. Santiago Calatrava scratches it with his left arm forming an arc over his head and leaning his head back in order to look right into the sun. This illustrates the structural intuition and awareness of environmental factors of Calatrava designs.

    • @ThePadawan3
      @ThePadawan3 3 роки тому +136

      Living in Switzerland, I can second that this qualifies as humor around here.

    • @justinokraski3796
      @justinokraski3796 3 роки тому +49

      @@ThePadawan3 I can appreciate the dry wit of it

    • @tomhsia4354
      @tomhsia4354 3 роки тому +21

      @@justinokraski3796 So can I. I like this style of humour.

    • @richardscathouse
      @richardscathouse 3 роки тому +6

      Good eyes is obviously not necessary for modern architecture? .🤭🤭🤭🤭🔥☠🔥☠👎

    • @jaysea5939
      @jaysea5939 3 роки тому +4

      Beautiful

  • @arthroku-juroku8481
    @arthroku-juroku8481 3 роки тому +1229

    Sure, a podcast with slides is nice and all but have you considered adding swings and monkey bars?

  • @ShutItKyle
    @ShutItKyle 3 роки тому +245

    "Ive already started drinking, my pronouns are he/him, and I hate you."
    This shit rips.

  • @kagitsune
    @kagitsune 2 роки тому +73

    Alice: "I don't give a shit about architecture"
    also Alice: *knows and provides literally all of the niche architecture jokes*

  • @AnUnseenRuler
    @AnUnseenRuler 3 роки тому +527

    “It’s not engineering, it just looks like engineering.”
    My new definition of architecture.

    • @RsConqueror
      @RsConqueror 3 роки тому +65

      I have long maintained that architects are graphic designers who have suffered a massive head trauma and now believe themselves to be engineers

    • @Raptor747
      @Raptor747 3 роки тому +14

      Architecture is a combination of an engineer specialized in the design of buildings and of an artist specialized in the aesthetics of buildings (within the bounds of engineering, cost, and circumstances). That doesn't mean that all architecture is good or bad.

    • @dr.vikyll7466
      @dr.vikyll7466 3 роки тому +26

      @@Raptor747 No, Architech bad, engineer good. Like God intended.

    • @michaelkitchin9665
      @michaelkitchin9665 3 роки тому +13

      Stairs bad, bridge good. Bridge made of stairs horrific.

    • @HeavyMetalMan3
      @HeavyMetalMan3 3 роки тому +20

      I had an engineering professor use the phrase "an architect's dream is an engineer's nightmare"

  • @blackvulture6818
    @blackvulture6818 3 роки тому +472

    As revenge for the hispano-american war, we releashed Santiago Calatrava into the wild

    • @jamiekamihachi3135
      @jamiekamihachi3135 3 роки тому +25

      Damn you Spain! Have you no mercy!

    • @Cynon
      @Cynon 3 роки тому +48

      Spain giving us Spain with a silent s.

    • @rocky8u32
      @rocky8u32 3 роки тому +13

      Looks like he turned back in Spain's direction though.

    • @russetwolf13
      @russetwolf13 3 роки тому +7

      You magnificent bastards I READ YOUR BOOK!

    • @trashrabbit69
      @trashrabbit69 3 роки тому +9

      The memory of the Maine in Spain, stays mainly on the plain.

  • @CerdurTV
    @CerdurTV 3 роки тому +479

    "a calatrava bridge gives you a skyline if you don't have a skyline"
    can we pool our money together to buy vulcan west virginia a brand new bridge

    • @j2simpso
      @j2simpso 3 роки тому +15

      Didn't know Calatrava was a huge Nissan fan. Hopefully he upgraded the turbo on his Skyline!

    • @uilsoum875
      @uilsoum875 3 роки тому +35

      well i'd hate to take down the Commie Bridge, but i do think it would be extremely funny to drop Santiago Calatrava in the middle of the appalachias, point him to a 550 ft gap and say "yeah we need one of your bridges there". also give him a budget of like 2 dollars

    • @coreygolphenee9633
      @coreygolphenee9633 3 роки тому +9

      Yep a dome some other post modern building and a Calatrava bridge and you got yourself a skyline sticker for a Cleveland sized city near you

    • @theD0gfish
      @theD0gfish 3 роки тому +13

      I'm sure that would end up resulting in yet another Vulcan West Virginia International Incident™

    • @jaysea5939
      @jaysea5939 3 роки тому +5

      @@uilsoum875 I would watch that reality TV show

  • @PwnMissile
    @PwnMissile 3 роки тому +394

    Maintenance on Calatrava buildings simply isn't done. Used to pass daily through the Lisbon station. The bridges are slumped and out of order, the glass ceilings are missing some panes. Not to mention the absolute genius way they found out to stop the ceiling from collapsing under the weight of the water when it rains: Let's put holes on the tips of the inverted pyramids so it all flows directly INTO THE AREA WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE WAITING FOR THE TRAIN.

    • @Raptor747
      @Raptor747 3 роки тому +61

      It's staggering to me that governments actually want this stuff when they know that it will be way over budget, take a long time to build, and be impossible to maintain, on top of being overly complicated and generally not as safe or practical as normal architecture.

    • @NamelessMoreOne
      @NamelessMoreOne 3 роки тому +47

      @@Raptor747 A big budgets allows for a big corruption check. And it's "art", so the price is justifiable.

    • @PwnMissile
      @PwnMissile 3 роки тому +53

      @@Raptor747 Most of this garbage is built during big international events. Expo, the Olympics, European and World Soccer championships, etc.
      This generally lets you funnel a few billions in tax payer money to your friends that happen to own a construction company while giving the public some bullshit excuse to why it's justified that they'll be having to pay for overpriced, impractical infrastructure that is often abandoned after the event for the next 10 years.

    • @trapsilon706
      @trapsilon706 3 роки тому +16

      The station in Liège is so fcking windy and cold. It is very uncomfortable to wait there and change trains. You have to walk a mile to get to your train.

    • @omaxem79
      @omaxem79 3 роки тому +21

      Yup, can confirm ( re: Lisbon Oriente Station ). If it's raining ( any amount of rain ), you only go up to the platform when your train arrives. Are the coms down/ you don't know when your train is arriving? Sucks to be you.
      The bus stops on the side are even better, everybody just stands underneath the train station ( away from the buses ) or you just never close your umbrella. Too windy ( which, due to the way the station and surrounding buildings were built, it often is )? Again, sucks to be you.

  • @trashrabbit69
    @trashrabbit69 3 роки тому +192

    17:18 Oh man, there are SO many WTYP episodes that could be made JUST on Olympics municipal projects. Sochi, Beijing, and of course that one from last year in Tokyo when some wild psychic kid blew up half of the city.

    • @philiproszak1678
      @philiproszak1678 3 роки тому +1

      What do you mean about Tokyo?

    • @foursix32
      @foursix32 3 роки тому +40

      @@philiproszak1678 He's talking about Akira lmao
      edit: at least I think he is

    • @coreygolphenee9633
      @coreygolphenee9633 2 роки тому

      How is the birds nest holding up lol

    • @Dong_Harvey
      @Dong_Harvey Рік тому

      @@coreygolphenee9633 its pretty shitty, just like a real birds nest.

    • @conflictedlizard9612
      @conflictedlizard9612 Рік тому +6

      @@Dong_Harvey my parrot built a nest you could drop kick like a football, the birds nest is substantially less structurally sound than an actual nest built by my idiot bird who regularly tries to fuck my desk lamp

  • @Matiburon04
    @Matiburon04 3 роки тому +194

    The saddest thing about Calatrava is that he worked under Felix Candela (a much better architect) and learned all the wrong lessons. Candela's curved surfaces actually have structural logic and can be made extremely cheaply with concrete.

    • @coreygolphenee9633
      @coreygolphenee9633 2 роки тому +30

      Calatrava learned that curving the most expensive surfaces i e glass gets you paid

  • @soccch
    @soccch 3 роки тому +271

    After hearing about how every country has a Calatrava bridge, it led me to a 150-page document published by my state's DoT on bridge aesthetics which basically says "you shouldn't make your bridges asymmetrical unless you absolutely have to, or you're Santiago Calatrava, in which case do whatever the fuck you want".

    • @chancekahle2214
      @chancekahle2214 3 роки тому +29

      I really wish that urban aesthetic standards didn't just amount to requiring the same type of facade on strip malls and 4-over-1s. Any sort of unified design philosophy would be preferable to what we have now.

    • @William-Morey-Baker
      @William-Morey-Baker 3 роки тому +4

      @@chancekahle2214 5 over 1s, but yeah... Shits wack

    • @Piterdeveirs333
      @Piterdeveirs333 3 роки тому +8

      @@William-Morey-Baker shit over crap

    • @sphealingit222
      @sphealingit222 3 роки тому +1

      @@Piterdeveirs333 piss over shit

    • @coreygolphenee9633
      @coreygolphenee9633 2 роки тому +7

      @@chancekahle2214 we do have a united design principle as cheap as possible as fast as possible

  • @craigdickson7697
    @craigdickson7697 3 роки тому +168

    I'd like to suggest the Salton Sea as a topic. A definite "oops" that sent the entire Colorado River into the Imperial Valley for two years. Made a big lake, and in the 50s and 60s they tried to build resorts, and now it's becoming an environmental disaster.

    • @zacharytaylor2983
      @zacharytaylor2983 3 роки тому +5

      Bump

    • @codesigma
      @codesigma 3 роки тому +21

      The back flow of all the agricultural additives evaporating into mega asthma dust was a nice touch

    • @philiproszak1678
      @philiproszak1678 3 роки тому +12

      Yeah! The whole Colorado River would be an interesting topic.

    • @peskypigeonx
      @peskypigeonx 3 роки тому +8

      That’s a big oops, maybe even an oopsie

    • @craigdickson7697
      @craigdickson7697 3 роки тому +2

      A recent Guardian article on the aftermath:
      www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jul/23/salton-sea-california-lake-dust-drought-climate

  • @abigailhalpern2222
    @abigailhalpern2222 3 роки тому +141

    Then there was the time there was an active shooter in the frank gehry building at Case Western and swat couldn't catch him right away because the building was too architecture

    • @unicorn4031
      @unicorn4031 3 роки тому +30

      I remember that happening. The non-Euclidean geometry completely threw off the cops. I walked by that building once (the Peter B Lewis building, Case’s school of management for those who don’t know.) and I saw a silver blob from the corner of my eye. And I thought “Oh, the Matrix is collapsing.” But it’s just the stupid building. 🙄

  • @McKeelix
    @McKeelix 3 роки тому +56

    Black cape architects are batshit insane. They'll tell the contractor "Hey. I want to permanently suspend a steam locomotive from a crane above a major Los Angeles thoroughfare. My budget is $4 and I want it completed by Sunday next week."

  • @ladyduckworthduck8434
    @ladyduckworthduck8434 3 роки тому +92

    That Venice thing is the most uncomfortable bridge i've ever walked across. It was raining too and i wasn't expecting to get down alive

  • @Yugophoto
    @Yugophoto 3 роки тому +162

    The peace bridge in Calgary, Canada was made by Calatrava. The city had to bring in a third party inspector to find and correct a ton of structural issues. Also, glass panes in the bridge keep breaking because normal expansion and contraction werent taken into account in the design.

    • @OddLeah
      @OddLeah 3 роки тому +39

      Canadian cities should only use architects who are from Canada and understand our weather. What works in Spain or New York aint gonna fly up here!

    • @hairychris444
      @hairychris444 3 роки тому +59

      @@OddLeah To be fair those designs don't work anywhere.

    • @JayKayDanks
      @JayKayDanks 3 роки тому +8

      That was the first thing I thought of watching this! But I almost immediately convinced myself it was too symmetrical to be one of his.

    • @Zaprozhan
      @Zaprozhan 3 роки тому +10

      @@JayKayDanks It was an off day for him.

    • @BiggestCorvid
      @BiggestCorvid 3 роки тому +3

      @@OddLeah just do it like films. One of the leads must be Canadian.

  • @PatriPastry
    @PatriPastry 3 роки тому +50

    “A yurt is a kind of RV because it’s portable” is the important takes we need in today’s America

  • @jasonfifi
    @jasonfifi 3 роки тому +68

    he was only fined $86k for that venice bridge.
    the wheelchair tram thing was supposed to be egg shaped, and was also glass, so internal temperatures reached over 120f, 50c. they did build it, budget be damned, i guess, but my favorite part about the bridge project was when he was asked about the issues, homeboy just said the least engineer shit a person could say: "My work is limited to the aesthetic. I had no influence in the selection of the contracting company that built the structure. A lot of things have happened that are out of my hands.”

    • @henrycurtis3652
      @henrycurtis3652 3 роки тому +26

      love to create what is effectively both a gibbet and an oven

  • @adrift-at-c
    @adrift-at-c 3 роки тому +51

    21:25 It's renderite, you render it. You just take a computer out to the build site, hit run, and over the course of the next 60+ hours the bridge loads in.

  • @saraspringer895
    @saraspringer895 3 роки тому +113

    "my pronouns are he/him/I hate you" is actually my transition goals, Liam

    • @brandonhoffman4712
      @brandonhoffman4712 3 роки тому +9

      Santiago Calatrava's pronouns are bird/building/stormtrooper

  • @alexanderhalladay3662
    @alexanderhalladay3662 3 роки тому +130

    Calatrava quietly murmuring "long live the new flesh" to himself when he sees Scott Adams' Dilbert House

  • @distantprince4564
    @distantprince4564 3 роки тому +55

    As someone who has gone to an art school or two yeh continue throwing architects from belfries. Hey if they survive they will understand the need for accessible architecture and if they don’t the others will see that taller doesn’t mean better.

    • @AbsolXGuardian
      @AbsolXGuardian 2 роки тому +2

      Ah yes the "[threat] anyone can become disabled" method of reducing ableism

  • @jrisner6535
    @jrisner6535 3 роки тому +84

    My fav starchitect story is Zaha Hadid asking if the trees on one project could be plastic - so they would fit with her vision

    • @ketrakrelek2347
      @ketrakrelek2347 3 роки тому +46

      once I happened to be in the aquatics centre for the London Olympics while internal fitout was happening and hadid happened to be doing a tour on the other side of the building. my boss points her out to me and tells me that she refused to wear a hardhat on site and indeed there she was, wearing zero ppe lol

    • @jcardboard
      @jcardboard 3 роки тому +47

      Glasgow has a transport museum designed by Hadid. It seems no one thought it was a problem that her design meant there wasn't nearly enough room for all the exhibits they had in the existing museum. So when they moved in they had to mount the classic cars to the wall away up above everyone. A car museum where you can't see into the cars. Thanks Zaha.

    • @juanjuri6127
      @juanjuri6127 3 роки тому +28

      i feel like most starchitects are summed up by Hadid's famous quote: "I don't design nice buildings"
      her paintings were p. nice though i guess

    • @TalesOfWar
      @TalesOfWar 3 роки тому +9

      @@jcardboard What is this? A museum for ants!? It needs to be at least... 3 times bigger than this!

  • @nanothrill7171
    @nanothrill7171 3 роки тому +79

    I legit love "Yay Liam!". Every episode that he does that makes me grin and it really makes my day better.

  • @gregaaron89
    @gregaaron89 3 роки тому +52

    Shout out to the sacrifices of the brave renderite miners

  • @effluviah7544
    @effluviah7544 3 роки тому +158

    The greatest irony is that I saw this notification come up while trying to update my hearing aids crowdfunding page. I look forward to the day when I can actually listen to a podcast without strain induced migraine, but for now, capitalism has screwed me once again. I will trust that there is a pronoun check, and that Alice fucks up the drops again. I have faith in you all. Gave a thumbs up even though I can't hear shit right now because I know in my soul this is another banger episode.

    • @haphazardlark1502
      @haphazardlark1502 3 роки тому +21

      Ay what’s that crowdfund link if you’re comfortable sharing? (If you understandably don’t wanna post it in a UA-cam comment section I get that but I want you to be able to hear the goofs and also other things and the fact that hearing aids cost this kinda cash makes me angry beyond reason)

    • @RsConqueror
      @RsConqueror 3 роки тому +14

      drop that link fam

    • @pixelatedvolume8051
      @pixelatedvolume8051 3 роки тому +10

      sorry to disappoint you but alice did the drops right on this one.

    • @awesomelyshorticles
      @awesomelyshorticles 3 роки тому +9

      Shockingly, alice got the drops done near perfectly each time. Which is an outrageous scandal.

    • @effluviah7544
      @effluviah7544 3 роки тому +8

      ​@@pixelatedvolume8051 Honestly, I'm not even mad, it's hilarious that the one time I call it I'm wrong lmao.

  • @alexanderhalladay3662
    @alexanderhalladay3662 3 роки тому +277

    Love the podcast but it's very unfair to Elon Musk who is the only innovator working right now to truly forge a new future where a towering inferno can become a horizontally WIDE inferno. With another 5 years he may finally make a 3 dimensional inferno

    • @kwarra-an
      @kwarra-an 3 роки тому +55

      You had me in the first half of the sentence

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 3 роки тому +65

      The natural endpoint of Musks innovation is that doctor who episode where everybody is stuck in a massive underground circular road slowly going in circles
      Edit: the episode is called gridlock

    • @William-Morey-Baker
      @William-Morey-Baker 3 роки тому +21

      @@deeznoots6241 precisely... While musk is off in his space empire laughing at the raging infernos on the Earth's surface.
      Musk and his fuck earth, get mine, attitude is incredibly infuriating. Also not a fan of his coups or his currency manipulation but those are par for the course when talking about billionaires

    • @distantprince4564
      @distantprince4564 3 роки тому +3

      4th dimension fire storm

    • @jamiekamihachi3135
      @jamiekamihachi3135 3 роки тому +4

      I thought you were serious at first. Well played

  • @michakiewicz5674
    @michakiewicz5674 3 роки тому +79

    When you forgot your wife's bday and stop at the station to buy her a waffen ss uniform

    • @richardscathouse
      @richardscathouse 3 роки тому +3

      Planning on selling her to the British Royal Family? 🤭🤭🤭😉😅👌

  • @jade_clark1917
    @jade_clark1917 3 роки тому +42

    I love how NY wasted several billion basically a mall. Imagine if that money would have been invested in the actual subway system.

    • @TalesOfWar
      @TalesOfWar 3 роки тому +21

      Don't be silly. Infrastructure that the poor smelly people can make use of isn't important. We need more grand vanity projects to cut ribbons in front of!

    • @Token_Nerd
      @Token_Nerd 2 роки тому

      The port authority did. They make money by not investing in their airports so they have money to do whatever the fuck they want.

  • @afs6853
    @afs6853 3 роки тому +65

    Wow, this actress from the safety third really sounds like she has lots of awesome stuff to tell. Kinda wish I could listen to her in, like, some sort of video essay form or something. Alas, doomed never to find out who she is; such is life.

    • @Zaznayka74
      @Zaznayka74 3 роки тому +6

      Same, same. Such a tragedy.

    • @huntermorgan4201
      @huntermorgan4201 Рік тому

      I was hoping someone else had the same suspicion as I did, lol

  • @theespers5263
    @theespers5263 3 роки тому +20

    That Safety Third is absolutely 100% not Abigail Thorn.

  • @ViolentOrchid
    @ViolentOrchid 3 роки тому +110

    alternate Loop name: Elon's rainbow revolution machine
    *Grimes slaps roof of murder tube* 'You can trap so many rich people in this Loop.'

    • @distantprince4564
      @distantprince4564 3 роки тому +11

      Gamer trap, we have an infestation

    • @Orinslayer
      @Orinslayer 3 роки тому +1

      fumigation tunnel

    • @loaf8506
      @loaf8506 3 роки тому +9

      feel like this implies that grimes is in a long con to make elon create a rich people killing machine.
      god i wish

  • @VinceWhitacre
    @VinceWhitacre 3 роки тому +17

    The amazing thing about the Milwaukee Art Museum (picked nit: not the Milwaukee Museum of Art) is that the Quadracci Pavillion (Calatrava's giant bird) is flanked by the brutalist Kahler Building (where most of the art is... if you have something you don't want getting wet, you don't put it in a Calatrava building), the Milwaukee County War Memorial, built in 1957 by Eero Saarinen... and approaching the requisite cable-stayed bridge from Wisconsin Avenue, you are confronted by Mark di Suvero's 1982 sculpture The Calling, comprised of several orange steel girders arranged into a 3D asterisk, or as I came to call it, Milwaukee's Asshole.
    It's just this random collection of artistic movements and Calatrava, just vomited onto the shores of Lake Michigan. I miss it, since I lived with it for 15 years and haven't been back in 5, but good goddamn it's a sight. Next to the house by the airport where some enterprising homeowner painted WELCOME TO CLEVELAND on the roof, it's the best part about flying into town.
    The year after the Quadracci opened, the 6th Street Viaduct was also replaced by a cable-stayed bridge, seemingly designed to complement Calatrava's contribution to the city's complexion; but as a bridge, it's a lot better of a bridge.

  • @lunalangton5776
    @lunalangton5776 3 роки тому +108

    OK comment section, if we're calling out favorites, mine's still Alice. Every podcast needs a girl who's just made entirely out of sass. Shit's more rigid than Renderite.
    But the trio is greater than the sum of its parts. Friends doin' a podcast.

    • @Piterdeveirs333
      @Piterdeveirs333 3 роки тому +5

      I can't decide. I love them all for their own reasons

    • @viniciusdesouzamaia
      @viniciusdesouzamaia 3 роки тому +25

      I have to give it up to my boy my Justin, the youngest man to be a 55 year old smoker who's worked every job.

  • @OrinLinwe
    @OrinLinwe 3 роки тому +50

    Googling some designs made me realize there's a "Calatrava" in my city in Sweden (Malmoe) - Turning Torso. I always felt it looks out of place and awkward; like it's top heavy, and just waiting to fall over. I guess it's supposed to look organic, or maybe like it's capable of motion (this confused me as a teen; I thought it actually was capable of turning, for some reason, and that's why it was talked up so much).
    I always felt a little gaslit for not being on board with thinking it looks cool, or pretty. It was a really big deal when it was made, and is sort-of a major landmark, tourist-wise to this day. I think there's an expensive restaurant at top, and it's frequently used by business-folks as a meeting-point/conference-stuff.
    I was never aware who designed it, and just assumed it was native talent. Was originally thinking that maybe one of the bridges in the harbor might be a Calatrava (or "faux-latrava") since at least one of them has that very airy, harp-like aesthetic.
    Didn't know who Calatrava was until this episode; now I have a name for "the style of every modern sci-fi city sketches ever made" (white, glass-panes, arbitrarily organic shapes, everything seemingly molded or 3D-printed in place).
    Edit: ah, Turning Torso is name-checked later on in the episode (was writing as I listened).

    • @creampop8553
      @creampop8553 3 роки тому +2

      I haven't gotten to that in the podcast, but I have read about it in a Top 10 book for skyscrapers. Apparently it has triangular rooms on the corners? Sounds awkward to decorate.
      I think another building like it rotates, or will rotate. I haven't been keeping up with tall buildings.

    • @laurilahtinen307
      @laurilahtinen307 3 роки тому

      @@creampop8553 At least the Evolution Tower in Moscow, the Shanghai Tower and one skyscraper in Dubai I think have a similar turning/twisting design.

  • @TheSullie1
    @TheSullie1 3 роки тому +51

    Why do I get the weird feeling that the cable stays for the Chords Bridge in Jerusalem are entirely redundant and that the whole bridge can just stand as one single span from abutment to abutment?

    • @jrisner6535
      @jrisner6535 3 роки тому +31

      The bridge is holding the tower up

  • @DanBalan1
    @DanBalan1 3 роки тому +60

    For all the bird talk, I'm 47 minutes in and I haven't heard a single word about Florida polytechnic University's louvers which LITERALLY FLAP LIKE A BIRD

  • @freakshow3313
    @freakshow3313 3 роки тому +294

    Can liam stop under appreciating himself, this pod with just Justin and Alice isn't as good, he needs to be here, also tbh all of y'all are tied for first and last, however that would change if mia was a regular member

  • @trevorc4413
    @trevorc4413 3 роки тому +16

    Calatrava bridges are like Star Trek TOS costumes, in that "appearance of imminent collapse" was the intended design goal.

  • @svenofthejungle
    @svenofthejungle 3 роки тому +29

    All this reminds me of the half decade I lived in the Persian Gulf. For a country in which drugs and alcohol are illegal, you sure see some brainwormed architecture.
    I had to edit the personal statement of a Gulfie wanting to go to architecture school. It was exactly as painful as it sounds.

    • @highjumpstudios2384
      @highjumpstudios2384 Рік тому +1

      Impressive you managed to live underwater in the Persian gulf. That shits hard to do.

    • @svenofthejungle
      @svenofthejungle Рік тому +4

      @@highjumpstudios2384 You ever experience the humidity of a summer in the coastal Persian Gulf states? You're not breathing air; you're breathing soup.

    • @highjumpstudios2384
      @highjumpstudios2384 Рік тому +1

      @@svenofthejungle I've never experienced anything outside this cave I live in. The shadows on the wall tell me everything I need to know.

  • @TheMrolio22
    @TheMrolio22 3 роки тому +26

    I loved the safety third from, it says here "Thabi Orn"

    • @LostSnowdrift
      @LostSnowdrift 2 роки тому +5

      I'm very dumb; I'm assuming that's Abi Thorn of PhilosophyTube?

    • @RenaDeles
      @RenaDeles 2 роки тому +4

      @@LostSnowdrift lol yep

  • @jasonfischer9857
    @jasonfischer9857 3 роки тому +18

    My guess for why there are almost no food places in the church-mall-bird is because restaurants require large exhaust and air units for the kitchens alone and I'll bet that Santiago didn't design anywhere for these ugly fans and air units to live without having to feed it several hundred feet away from the church-mall-bird area.
    Honestly a terrible design decision because if there is anything that would ever make me want to go to a mall, it would be food and I'd think that food is the biggest draw for most malls these days anyway since the advent of online shopping.

    • @j2simpso
      @j2simpso 3 роки тому +2

      In fairness though that Westfield in New York is really by the people and for the people. One need only look at the Casper store to see that it was put there as accommodation for Occupy and BLM protestors. Why else would you put a mattress store with so many mattresses on display for "evaluation"?

  • @EsplodingBomb
    @EsplodingBomb 3 роки тому +132

    Petition to have Liam record over all the other hosts so it is a podcast of just Liam talking to himself

    • @memomorph5375
      @memomorph5375 3 роки тому +30

      The “Yay Liam” Therapy Zone :-)

    • @paleposter
      @paleposter 3 роки тому +7

      He reads pre-recorded scripts of the others talking and can improvise if he wants to

    • @brandonhoffman4712
      @brandonhoffman4712 3 роки тому +3

      @@paleposter YES! exactly how i imagined it. haha

  • @jamesbarels469
    @jamesbarels469 3 роки тому +86

    American Law Enforcement is guilty, Chauvin is a sacrificial lamb. Don't let up now, keep that momentum going. As you can see by the Florida Anti-riot legislation that was just enacted the Establishment is not backing down without a serious fight.
    Strength in solidarity.

    • @brandonhoffman4712
      @brandonhoffman4712 3 роки тому +1

      Grab that bull horn and let it out man! Structural engineering youtube videos are a great place to preach politics, that way everyone hears you. lol

    • @jamesbarels469
      @jamesbarels469 3 роки тому +5

      @@brandonhoffman4712 , yes everyone can hear writing. You must have gone to a special engineering school to be both condescending and an idiot at the same time. Either that or you are just American.

  • @Zesprit15
    @Zesprit15 Рік тому +4

    I was watching this and at 1:10:56 showed that foot bridge to my spouse and asked if they wanted the see an ADA violation. They saw it, groaned, and said “You took not-stairs and made it stairs on purpose!”

  • @NaCk210
    @NaCk210 3 роки тому +26

    16:06 "The two genders of bridges he constructs..." I honestly thought you were gonna make a joke about how the bridge of the left is literally called "Puente de la Mujer" aka the woman's bridge.
    EDIT: Ok, and 25:30 is definetly the male bridge.

  • @WingsStrings
    @WingsStrings 3 роки тому +18

    "wind turbine on top of building" finally an office block with a propeller beanie

  • @evamiller4886
    @evamiller4886 3 роки тому +14

    I don’t understand the obsession with removing seating from public spaces. New ones are built without it, and old ones cities are going through and getting rid of benches at places like bus stops.
    Just let people sit down for a few minutes. Eat a sandwich, check their messages, wait for a train. It’s like even supposedly public spaces you can’t just exist in anymore

    • @HeadsFullOfEyeballs
      @HeadsFullOfEyeballs 3 роки тому +11

      It's mostly to keep homeless people away. They're making public spaces worse for everybody in a way that makes them _much_ worse for homeless people, so that they will stay away and can be more easily ignored.

    • @ClaudiaNW
      @ClaudiaNW 2 роки тому +5

      Yes, I think anti-homelessness policies are the main reason. Rail companies and transit agencies are real assholes to homeless people in general, in my experience. (Trains good, but the people in charge of them not always good)

  • @puppable
    @puppable 3 роки тому +29

    man its a shame we never learned who this episode's safety third was from

    • @TrashHeapCustodian
      @TrashHeapCustodian 3 роки тому +15

      No possible way to tell, that's the thing about anonymous stories, you'll never figure it out

    • @puppable
      @puppable 3 роки тому +7

      @@TrashHeapCustodian that's true

  • @beethovenjunkie
    @beethovenjunkie 2 роки тому +4

    I am about halfway through the episode and so far all the buildings seem very well suited to growing tomatoes.

  • @lasschesteven
    @lasschesteven 3 роки тому +37

    I'm now mad at my own pet birds for potentially inspiring Calatrava.

    • @brandonhoffman4712
      @brandonhoffman4712 3 роки тому +3

      I am now mad at you for having pet birds. Pet birds are the sole reason Calatrava exists! Without them he cannot amass enough chi to materialize on our plane of reality.

  • @drakkenmensch
    @drakkenmensch 3 роки тому +14

    Renderite is squished out of a supersized play-doh barber shop set, allowing it to assume inscrutable shapes impossible to replicate with mundane steel.

  • @ThugShakers4Christ
    @ThugShakers4Christ 3 роки тому +54

    You could improve all these designs by making them more rigid

  • @curium9622
    @curium9622 3 роки тому +25

    You should do an episode about the time NASA killed 7 astronauts because they didn’t listen to engineers and normalization of deviance....
    ...twice

    • @excitableboy7031
      @excitableboy7031 3 роки тому

      What's normalisation of deviance? I've performed normalisation but never on deviance. Why in the name of statistical analysis would anyone do that?

    • @curium9622
      @curium9622 3 роки тому +8

      @@excitableboy7031 in this case its that foamstrikes like the one that destroyed columbia have hapend before and NASA knew about it but they said it was totaly save to start reentry

    • @erikawhelan4673
      @erikawhelan4673 3 роки тому +3

      An ep on Columbia would be great

    • @davidwright7193
      @davidwright7193 3 роки тому +8

      @@excitableboy7031 It is when an event that ought to raise concerns is allowed to become normal because it hasn’t caused a crash so far. For instance when O rings sealing solid rocket booster segments show signs of burn through or when bits of insulation foam keep falling off and impacting safety critical heat shielding...

  • @centuriolingerus
    @centuriolingerus 3 роки тому +13

    My hometown in the Netherlands has not one but 3 (!!!) bridges designed by Calatrava that all span the same canal at different locations. One for a two lane road, one is for a small mixed bicycle and car road and the last one is basically a glorified roundabout. They all look kind of similar but the tower lean is a little different in every bridge.
    Originally they where supposed to cost €16.4 million but costs (inevitably) ballooned to 28.8 million. Also these bridges rusted like fuck so the total lifetime costs of these bridges has skyrocketed to 50 million euros for both construction and maintenance...
    Edit: for anyone interested, I'm talking about the Calatrava bridges in the Haarlemmermeer polder

  • @Ink_Tide
    @Ink_Tide 3 роки тому +5

    Nothing says "well designed infrastructure that's built with future maintenance in mind" like a building with two-ish usable stories that's more than twice that tall and has an interior design inspired by what I can only conclude was a nightmare Calatrava had where he was trapped inside a giant triangular accordion.

  • @uilsoum875
    @uilsoum875 3 роки тому +18

    21:26 Renderite is manifested out of an architect's pure Mind Waves

  • @mz4ahs
    @mz4ahs 3 роки тому +9

    "an actress"
    this is a guess but its abigail thorn

  • @eminatorstudios
    @eminatorstudios 3 роки тому +23

    Maybe Calatravas Structural engineering expertise was the friends he made along the way :)

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 3 роки тому +1

      Well, it wasn't the projects...

  • @teamupleft7097
    @teamupleft7097 3 роки тому +48

    Surprised you haven't covered the Johnstown PA flood yet

    • @welltheresyourproblempodca1465
      @welltheresyourproblempodca1465  3 роки тому +58

      It's like you're psychic!

    • @mrboomward
      @mrboomward 3 роки тому +9

      I feel like Lake Nyos would be a good episode. Not only did it already fart out a bunch of co2 and kill over 1000 people, in a few years it’s gonna break and flood all the way into Nigeria.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 3 роки тому +2

      @@welltheresyourproblempodca1465
      Campaigning for the Banquiao dam disaster.

    • @teamupleft7097
      @teamupleft7097 3 роки тому +5

      Well damn

    • @Marc-ny6mg
      @Marc-ny6mg 3 роки тому +3

      @@teamupleft7097 You're a legend

  • @iamtoast3397
    @iamtoast3397 3 роки тому +4

    An obelisk that looks like a knob should surely be referred to as a knobelisk.

  • @leandrobalino475
    @leandrobalino475 3 роки тому +17

    49:00 I'm gonna put this into perspective once again comparing it to my country. The largest investment project ever in Uruguay, wich is being built right now, has a budget of 2,500 million dollars (2.5 american billions). The project consists on building what I believe is the largest paper mill in the world and a 350km rail line connecting it to Montevideo's Port... And New York paid almost twice that for a single subway station...

  • @andxx0r_the_second671
    @andxx0r_the_second671 3 роки тому +6

    I was once hired to do basic mechanical maintenance inside a Calatrava structure and the older building it was attached to.
    Right after giving me the job they decided to do a hiring freeze and my job and every other one they were looking to fill evaporated and I was never to work in a Calatrava structure.
    THANK CHRIST.

  • @laurencebois5119
    @laurencebois5119 3 роки тому +9

    I used to work in the theatre as a stage hand, we load the counterweights to the lighting rig at the top of this ~3 storey shaft that had no guard rail. Falling wasn't an issue as there was plenty of things to grab on to, however the 12kg weights we had to haul into the counterweight cradles often fell down, leaving heavy dents in the wood or disintegrate concrete. Usually the counterweights landed in a winch pit that was off limits, however sometimes they would land in SL wings

  • @manputty933
    @manputty933 3 роки тому +5

    Calatrava out here growing his structures out of fucking wraithbone

  • @kateballsey-bukeboom6495
    @kateballsey-bukeboom6495 3 роки тому +22

    Makes me really really want an episode about the Vikings stadium in Minneapolis, deeply hated by the Audubon Society, with the wall cladding made out of tissue paper.

    • @henrycurtis3652
      @henrycurtis3652 3 роки тому +1

      is that the one that fell in or the one that replaced the one that had its roof fall in

    • @garystack9537
      @garystack9537 3 роки тому +3

      Don’t forget that when it first opened the way into the home medical facility was through a restaurant in the stadium, so players who got injured would have to go through a restaurant full of fans

    • @garystack9537
      @garystack9537 3 роки тому +6

      @@henrycurtis3652 the one that replaced it. It’s hated by the Audubon society cause it’s got an absolute fuckton of glass on the sides and it’s tall since it’s a stadium so it interferes with natural bird flight paths by just killing the birds

    • @fritzophrenia3146
      @fritzophrenia3146 2 роки тому

      @@garystack9537 Its also just ugly. I know stadiums aren't known for their aesthetic value but the new stadium looks like someone just took a big angular shit in downtown Minneapolis, I hate it so much

  • @persbaderse
    @persbaderse 3 роки тому +10

    that bridge in dallas is 1) yes like not that far off the ground, 2) ABOVE THE TRINITY RIVER. the trinity river as it flows through dallas is a creek. it looks like some water left over after rain. that's probably why dallas wanted a fancy bridge there, to make it seem like we really needed one 😂😭

    • @KevinButler55
      @KevinButler55 2 роки тому

      Although, calling the Trinity a drainage ditch is hilarious and not THAT far off.

  • @Vallam23
    @Vallam23 3 роки тому +9

    "I'll put it in in post" - Roz, lying

  • @neurosismancer
    @neurosismancer 3 роки тому +13

    With regards to the stagehands mentioned in Safety Third: I used to work for the Met Opera (in the Marketing department), and would come in to work every morning, and usually past a group of stagehands by the door to the wing of the stage. (Which is also where the elevator up to most of the offices are.) In three years of working there, I saw every stereotype of stagehands you can think of played out. They really are knife guys, and you really do not want to fuck with them. The two moments that stick out were the one stagehand ranting about why he was voting for Trump while all the other stagehands tried to ignore him, and the stagehands watching a rehearsal of Der Rosenkavalier, and one commenting "Two chicks in bed!" when the mezzo-soprano (playing a teenage boy) jumped into bed with the soprano at the end of a scene.

  • @OpreRoma
    @OpreRoma 3 роки тому +102

    I do like these episodes where you do a deep dive into a person's or organisation's entire career of shittyness. I like all the episodes, but I particularly like these ones

    • @viniciusdesouzamaia
      @viniciusdesouzamaia 3 роки тому +12

      Love it when a person is so bad it can be considered an engineering disaster AND a systemic failure.

    • @sorchahenderson926
      @sorchahenderson926 3 роки тому +8

      really want a bill gates episode

  • @a.gravemistake3061
    @a.gravemistake3061 3 роки тому +28

    Damn, when you said you were drunk and uploading last night I didn't think it would come this fast. Yay Liam!

  • @tenkiforecast
    @tenkiforecast 3 роки тому +2

    The funniest thing about the Barcelona bridge? Discussion of Barcelona's government going "we need a STATEMENT piece of architecture for the Olympics!" and meanwhile the flipping Sagrada Familia is just in the background, in its 100th year of construction...

  • @stefanrogers9855
    @stefanrogers9855 3 роки тому +23

    Have you heard about the Hulme Crescents? They were one of the biggest social housing disasters in the history on the UK and would make a great episode

    • @Raw774
      @Raw774 3 роки тому +1

      ooooh yes

  • @dylanchouinard6141
    @dylanchouinard6141 3 роки тому +6

    Imagine the conversation in the Valencia government when the opera house roof blew off:
    “Sir, I have good news and bad news.”
    “What’s the bad news?”
    “The opera house lost it’s roof”
    “And the good news?”
    “Well, now we have an open air theater!”

  • @Vance-Herbener
    @Vance-Herbener 3 роки тому +9

    There's a Calatrava building for this new state university in florida called florida polytechnic and it's just in the middle of lakeland off the interstate.

    • @jochemvanest
      @jochemvanest 3 роки тому

      wow i looked it up on Google earth and why is it there, it's literally in the middle of nowhere?

    • @geodesicdomeenthusiast4797
      @geodesicdomeenthusiast4797 3 роки тому

      @@jochemvanest it used to be a satellite campus for USF, but got spun off as its own thing.

  • @carlstott5309
    @carlstott5309 3 роки тому +15

    What if we kissed under the Frank Gehry Sunlight Refractor Melanoma generator 👉👈😳

    • @miguelneves2110
      @miguelneves2110 2 роки тому

      Nah, the Luma Arles Tower is where it's at.

  • @trainsbangsandautomobiles824
    @trainsbangsandautomobiles824 3 роки тому +14

    Whats ironic is I been binging on your vids all night, and just before I go to bed, boom, new upload lol

  • @kenkoopa7903
    @kenkoopa7903 3 роки тому +6

    Now I'm just imagining an adaptation of The Fountainhead but it's about Roarke being an absolute diva and persecution complexee despite having tons of support and gobs of money thrown at him all while the public hates him for his gaudy, impractical bullshit.

  • @jacksonduruy4303
    @jacksonduruy4303 3 роки тому +5

    I'm starting to think that one drugged out architect in Pathologic that made the Polyhedron is based on this guy. All of his buildings just look like he's trying to say "fuck you" to physics.

  • @claudenirmf
    @claudenirmf 3 роки тому +25

    I don't get why would anyone dislike Liam, he's basically the spirit animal of the podcast. He's the embodiment of the podcast's rage for what I see, and these shitshows we hear about here cause a lot of anger.

  • @musclecat1005
    @musclecat1005 3 роки тому +23

    Hey! Don't diss the Milwaukee Art Museum!
    As someone who lives in Wisconsin, that's my job!

    • @davidlathrop9360
      @davidlathrop9360 3 роки тому +3

      I consider the MAM to be one of the only good Calatravas. It actually fulfills a purpose (art museum) and it's not incredibly crazy. AND I see it every day.

    • @justinokraski3796
      @justinokraski3796 3 роки тому +2

      yeah I think it's alright too. I went there once in middle school or something and then again in high school as a sidestop on a tour of the sewage plant

    • @andyid7440
      @andyid7440 3 роки тому +2

      I have a friend who worked for a local Milwaukee architecture firms that was on sub-contract for portions of the interior of the Art Museum. Calatrava's design materials that came down to the subs were notorious for being not much more than sexy sketches with no real details. Many weren't even complete sketches. The firm began making requests for more complete specs, but they were generally ignored. After various and repeated attempts, the firm landed on a method that would let them actually start working: they began submitting *their own designs* for approval to Santiago's firm, who would be offended by them and then at least start sending back extensive revisions.
      You don't have to request the specs, you just have to give them something that will get the same result as a request for specs.

    • @davidlathrop9360
      @davidlathrop9360 3 роки тому +1

      @@andyid7440 Sometimes you have to lead the prancy horse to water AND make him drink. But your friend's firm, and all the firms involved, did a stellar job. Can't praise 'em enough.

    • @trashrabbit69
      @trashrabbit69 3 роки тому +2

      If it keeps people's eyes off of the Hoan shedding pieces of itself onto Summerfest, then it's game.

  • @apteropith
    @apteropith 3 роки тому +9

    this is probably the first time in quite a few months i'm watching one of these on the same day it comes out ... but i guess i'm at it early even then

  • @Lijrobert
    @Lijrobert 3 роки тому +9

    Love the Abby Thorn cameo

  • @youmustbethatninja
    @youmustbethatninja 2 роки тому +2

    This guy is what happens when you give Grover unlimited budget and a copy of Solidworks

  • @wrash
    @wrash 2 роки тому +2

    So, the Zürich Stadelhofen station is getting a 4th line and Calatrava apparently got real pissed at even the possibility that someone else might do something to his grand piece.
    Well, his submission didn't get chosen, and there were talks about a lawsuit, but I think he's given up. Now he gets to erect an insurance building right in front of it.

  • @grahamariss2111
    @grahamariss2111 3 роки тому +4

    Those stores remind me of the suitcase stores at airports, something I have never understood as I have always arrived at the airport with my packed suitcase and on the odd occasions I have left the airport without a packed suitcase the airport have conveniently lost not only my suitcase but also its contents thus eliminating the need for a suitcase.

  • @Meatloaf_TV
    @Meatloaf_TV 3 роки тому +7

    That triangle building is actually really good design cuz its built so everyone has a nice amount of porch area by the river the hole in the middle is stupid tho cuz it takes up too much space but its a nice park

  • @fkarenn
    @fkarenn 2 роки тому +8

    This guy learned singing crystals into shape from the Warhammer 40K Space Elves.

  • @pastell6395
    @pastell6395 3 роки тому +16

    Don't worry Liam, we like you. : )

  • @ethanrobinson6016
    @ethanrobinson6016 3 роки тому +8

    My only criticism is that this was not at least 3 hours long

  • @michlo3393
    @michlo3393 3 роки тому +6

    Another smashing success!
    Seriously though, a Kowloon Walled City episode would be dope.

  • @evelynatlas3399
    @evelynatlas3399 3 роки тому +1

    I went to this building with my father when we went to New York city together. We couldn't even tell this was a train station, we thought it was an oddly designed mall

  • @scarylion1roar
    @scarylion1roar 3 роки тому +11

    will there be more roasts of pretentious architects in the future?

  • @jaspervanheycop9722
    @jaspervanheycop9722 3 роки тому +4

    There's an imitation Calatrava station in Amsterdam (Bijlmer Arena) where they tried to do the organic design thing with wood. It's impressively even worse than the mysterious mind palace material. Since the panels get sodden with water and drip rain all over the commuters. They literally managed to make a roof that doesn't work when it rains!

  • @jakx2ob
    @jakx2ob 3 роки тому +7

    Much of what you say about Calatrava designing buildings that can't be built reminds be of what they said during the Gaudí at the Sagrada Familia (wip since 1882).

    • @excitableboy7031
      @excitableboy7031 3 роки тому

      Angling for the pin?

    • @jakx2ob
      @jakx2ob 3 роки тому

      @@excitableboy7031 why? Two star architects from neighbouring cities.

  • @davidl6558
    @davidl6558 3 роки тому +1

    I passed through the Oculus yesterday and needed to come back to this for therapy. To note: the bathrooms in the World Trade Center Station close at 7pm. It's a damn mall far more than a transit center.

  • @pavelcollee-foley7997
    @pavelcollee-foley7997 3 роки тому +7

    The M. Night Shyamalan of structural engineering.

  • @Vivacious_Lenin
    @Vivacious_Lenin 3 роки тому +16

    was that safety third from philosophy tube?

  • @MrJimheeren
    @MrJimheeren 3 роки тому +5

    I’ve been to Valencia a couple of years ago and the park (old riverbed) where these buildings are is pretty amazing. It’s a beautiful green strip through the city where you can cycle, relax, just have a break and yes these futuristic buildings look pretty badass. It’s kinda like you stepped into the world of Thunderbirds the art museum is pretty cool as well

  • @UltraklystronMusic
    @UltraklystronMusic 3 роки тому +1

    "INTRO TO STATISTICS TEXTBOOK" = line of the episode, genuine laughter, considering subscribing to the Patreon for that alone. Keep it up, y'all!