As a long time BFF fan I have to agree with the others saying they miss Darren and Robert. I saw them at Mandalay Bay in Vegas years ago, and they blew the place away. Darren's drumming had a much more jazz influenced style that was incredible to watch and hear, and everyone knows the weird things Robert can do with a bass guitar. It was a great night. That being said, I loved "Songs for Silverman". Ben has never made a bad album, ever.
Ben sure does like that little "whooooosh" thing. That makes me smile. Ah, this song is a classic! I love its funky beat. Mmm. Could there ever be a bad song from BFF or Ben?
At the time Ben Folds Five was around, I didn't respect Darren and Robert's talent as much as I now do. They were amazing singers along with musicians. The song most people know, but don't know it's by them is probably "Theme from Dr Pyser." It's common, but people don't know the origins. Also, each Ben Folds/ Five album has a different style/theme than the other. BFF (album) had a REALLY 90's feel, W&E Amen was filled with all different ones, Unauthorized Biography had more of a smooth feel,
@abonei It's probably because the song messes with your perception of the beat. The bass comes in exactly half a beat before beat one of the next measure. However, listening from the beginning of the song can lead you to believe that the bass comes in ON beat one. The unsettling feeling is probably the beat following along in your head being reset when the drums come in.
Is it just me or has ben's voice changed ALOT? I mean, listen to this version of Kate, then the old version...I dunno, I mean, I love Ben Folds...but I liked his old voice better. Piano makes up for it. For sure.
Just listen to the "1997 TFI Friday Ben Folds Five Kate" video with Sledge and Jessee. I think they had more chemistry than the ones here. Just the way they sing and play together (or possibly the young age of them) makes it sound more together. Man, they could sing. Although, the ones here aren't bad.
That does have something to do with it, but it could also be because the original song is around ten years old and when singers get older, their voices can change.
Rockin' The Suburbs had more of an upbeat/modern (at the time) feel to it, Songs for Silverman had more of a reflecting feel, and Way to Normal had a... well... less original fell in my opinion. But Ben Folds never fails to impress me. ~~Whatever and Ever Amen~~
This song kinda plays with accents and so it sounds kinda weird. This drummer plays it in a manner in which it's easier to find the beat, while the original drummer really played with the accents and probably tricked a lot of people's brains. You could almost listen to it a half beat off during the verses on the original. Anyway, it is a little tricky which is why I think Ben counted off the first two measures. Alex
I agree the new guys play their instruments bunch better, but the supporting vocals from the first couple of albums is sorely missing in BF's newer material. The harsh falsetto in this one is the perfect example. Never-the-less, it all rules - old or new.
man.... ben folds five had so much more energy. The drummer was better, as the bassist and this band he is playing with now really lacks in the vocals.
I have heard this song hundreds of times and I will never understand where the downbeat is
Same. I can more or less follow until the crash on 'words fail'.
Damn, that was so cool! I have to watch it again, because I can't believe what I just saw!
As a long time BFF fan I have to agree with the others saying they miss Darren and Robert. I saw them at Mandalay Bay in Vegas years ago, and they blew the place away. Darren's drumming had a much more jazz influenced style that was incredible to watch and hear, and everyone knows the weird things Robert can do with a bass guitar. It was a great night. That being said, I loved "Songs for Silverman". Ben has never made a bad album, ever.
Ben sure does like that little "whooooosh" thing. That makes me smile.
Ah, this song is a classic! I love its funky beat. Mmm. Could there ever be a bad song from BFF or Ben?
I love when they kick to the 2 & 4 at 2:52. So perfect. Great song.
i LOVE the fact my name's kate.
that is all.
this is one of my favorite songs for over 6 years, gotta love ben folds
The beer is flowing at 1:30am..This makes me happy..You??bono fan!!
Search the video
Ben Folds Five - Kate - TFI Friday - 1997
It's an aMAZING performance =)
~BEn
At the time Ben Folds Five was around, I didn't respect Darren and Robert's talent as much as I now do. They were amazing singers along with musicians. The song most people know, but don't know it's by them is probably "Theme from Dr Pyser." It's common, but people don't know the origins. Also, each Ben Folds/ Five album has a different style/theme than the other. BFF (album) had a REALLY 90's feel, W&E Amen was filled with all different ones, Unauthorized Biography had more of a smooth feel,
This is my favorite version because of the Moog solo.
I LOVE the Moog Solo.
Who's listening after watching this is us in 2020😜
great job. My band wants a moog like that too!
someone should post some mojosha!
we want the 'Five!
that was legit!
I was thinkin that too.
~BEn
i always found the way the drums come in unsettling
@abonei It's probably because the song messes with your perception of the beat. The bass comes in exactly half a beat before beat one of the next measure. However, listening from the beginning of the song can lead you to believe that the bass comes in ON beat one. The unsettling feeling is probably the beat following along in your head being reset when the drums come in.
your right it is.
That moog really kicks ass.
Is it just me or has ben's voice changed ALOT? I mean, listen to this version of Kate, then the old version...I dunno, I mean, I love Ben Folds...but I liked his old voice better. Piano makes up for it. For sure.
@jfair90 yeah man the five is one of a kind.
Just listen to the "1997 TFI Friday Ben Folds Five Kate" video with Sledge and Jessee. I think they had more chemistry than the ones here. Just the way they sing and play together (or possibly the young age of them) makes it sound more together. Man, they could sing. Although, the ones here aren't bad.
I prefer the West 54th video's version to this as a whole... but I think Ben's vocals are much more comfortable here.
This vocal harmonies are quite as good as the old ones. Great performance anyways ^^
That does have something to do with it, but it could also be because the original song is around ten years old and when singers get older, their voices can change.
Rockin' The Suburbs had more of an upbeat/modern (at the time) feel to it, Songs for Silverman had more of a reflecting feel, and Way to Normal had a... well... less original fell in my opinion. But Ben Folds never fails to impress me.
~~Whatever and Ever Amen~~
This song kinda plays with accents and so it sounds kinda weird. This drummer plays it in a manner in which it's easier to find the beat, while the original drummer really played with the accents and probably tricked a lot of people's brains. You could almost listen to it a half beat off during the verses on the original. Anyway, it is a little tricky which is why I think Ben counted off the first two measures.
Alex
It is kinda strange, but it works out.
I agree the new guys play their instruments bunch better, but the supporting vocals from the first couple of albums is sorely missing in BF's newer material. The harsh falsetto in this one is the perfect example. Never-the-less, it all rules - old or new.
that's rehtorical by the way.
chewing gum actually helps keep good time. i do that when i drum sometimes. Shouldnt do it when ur singin though
Kate dis-liked this.
Prefer this with Sledge.
why?
I think the rhythm in this is too complex for you and you just understand what is going on.
16 years later and I'm still trying to figure out the downbeat.
I love Ben and I love these sessions, but am I the only one who wants the god damn bassist to spit out his gum??!
does ben smoke pot? he seems like the kind of guy that doesnt need to but it wouldnt suprise me.
Actually it helps produce saliva and helps you sing better. Dave grohl is always chewing gum on stage.
Uhh. No. Not just live and studio. Compare his voice in Songs For Silverman to Whatever and Ever Amen. Doofus.
This version isn't as good as the sessions at 54
James Schmidt depends on how much you value timekeeping
man.... ben folds five had so much more energy. The drummer was better, as the bassist and this band he is playing with now really lacks in the vocals.