Coz Pakistan had occupied North Kashmir from the Maharaja and not from the Indian forces, but in the Southern Kashmir Pakistan was facing India, thus Pakistan got defeated by India in Southern Kashmir
@prestallar4339 yup, Gilgit forces had rebelled against the Maharaja of Kashmir, amd finalky they had declared war against the Maharaja, soon on 20th of October entire Giligt Baltistan was occupied by the Gilgit rebels, by 22nd October entire gilgit and Baltistan including Mirpur and Muzaffarabd of Jammu was merged into Pakistan by the Gilgit rebels and Pakistan along with Gilgit rebels had invaded Kashmir vale, finally Maharaja accede Kashmir to India which lead to war and by the early november, India hsd defeated both Pakistan and Gilgit Rebels and had won the control of most of Kashmir, Ladakh and most of Jammu as well
@@randomtanker4355 can't you read??? I have quite clearlly mentioned that the Gilgit Baltistan was occupied by the Gilgit rebels prior to the making of the IOA with India, Gilgit Baltistan later was merged/occupied by Pakistan by the Gilgit rebels who were marching towards Kashmir vale and finally when India had dfeated the rebels and Pakistan in the Kashmir vale, Pakistan didn't vacate the occupied land, Thus Pakistan got Gilgit Baltistan since it wasn't really facing India then, as India had not even invaded Kashmir by then as no IOA was made with India untill the Pakistani invassion of Kashmir, however Pakistan had failed the vale,Ladakh and Jammu as by this time IOA with India was officially made hence Kashmir officially became a part of India( Pakistani occupied terretories of Kashmir had also became a part of India since acvording to the treaty entire Kashmir was India as Maharaja wasn't really revognizing Pakistani occupation) thus Pakistan had to face the Indian forces in the valley and Ladakh and got defeated
In the south it was harder for Pakistan since Pakistan had three major enemies fighting together: the Indian Army, Jammu and Kashmir state forces, deadly Hindu-Sikh militias whereas the Pakistani Pashtuns and the Pakistan Army were fighting them
as far as I am aware, the British have been using the Johnson line since the fall of the Qing in 1912 and continued to use it until 1947, during this time it would be considered a part of the J&K princely state which later became independent and acceded to India, though militarisation of the region began post-1954. The Chinese forces would only gain complete control over the region post the 1962 war and their presence there only began with the the annexation of Tibet. Unless Nationalist forces or Tibetan forces had their presence there, which i am not aware of.The region was under Indian control-Though again it was mostly uninhabited so nothing had to be really done for control.
1.) Maharaj was a nemesis of India coz he was an arch rival of Shiekh Abdullah, and shiekh abdullah was one of biggest ally of Nehru, this is the reason why initially he wasn't acceding Kashmir to India 2.) Gilgit rebels had attavked the vale even before when Indian forces had airlifted to Kashmir, this itself proove that Gilgit rebels had defeated the forces of Maharaja but not the Indian forces, India had finally invaded Kashmir from the south by 26th of oct, and Pakistan had already invaded Kashmir by 22nd of october, this proove that it was India, which had defeated Gilgit rebels and Pakitani forces and had moved them out of the vale, 3.) I agree India took the matter to UN, coz A.) India had the support of Shikh abdullah B.) Case of Junagarh was still pending C.) India was always the biggest regional power D.) India was overconfident about her position in Kashmir, India was already defeating Pakistan, it was a diplomatic failure of India, if India had not took this matter to the UN, then it was just the matter of time, and whole Kahsmir would had been a part of India, your histrory lessons needs to be checked, Jinnah had stooped at unimaginable levels , he had wanted to to establish the illegal state of Pakistan quite entirely over the Hindu India , his ill intentions were not just limited to the the 6 states, case of Junagarh and Hyderabad prooves that, and also if Pakistan could had the audacity of claiming Hindu majority Hyderabad and Hindu majority Junagrah on the basis of so-called IOA ,then why not India?India is way more powerfull and influentiol than Pakistan, if Pakistan can dare to provoke India, then the regional superpower India would surely retaliate and also the people of Kashmir had never wanted to join Pakistan, they just had wanted to get rid of the Dogra ruler, and for that they had been supporting Shiekh abdullah, shiekh abdullah was pro-India, coz of that jinnah had even referred Abdullah as a traitor, which had offended the Kashmiri people, and also we are talking about the 1940' sat that time, Hindus of kashmir used to make about 30 percent of the population( before the forcefull exodus of Hindus by the Muslims of Kashmir), and the Hindus of Kashmir(including Bhuddists and Sikhs)were and are still highly pro-India, so your arguments are quite baseless And for the record, Pakistan wasn't really supporting a plebscide in Kashmir initially coz it knew that the peope would vote for Shiekj abdullah and he was sponsoring the legallity of the Instrument of Accession of Kashmir with India ,coz of this Pakistan voilated the UN resolution and din't vacate the occupied terretories,Dogra ruler was Hindu, but still his ties with the Indian government were quite bad(that's the reason why din't signed the IOA with the Indian government initially, but only after the Pakistani invasion of Kashmir) The misleading info which is being spread by the Pakistani media has deeply infiltrated into the minds of Pakistanis! Pakistan is purely at the fault, it's Pakistan, which is instigating this issue even after losing all the wars and conflicts against India, India is, was, will always be on the morally right side,
What if the native Kashmiri people? From what I can tell, it seems that they wanted to end the oppressive regime of the Maharaja, but it looks like Pakistan swiftly took advantage of the Kashmiri's hope of independence and tried to get them to join Pakistan. Am I correct?
@@LordJagd yes, Kashmir people wanted that the Indian ally Shiekh Abdullah should rule Kashmir against the Maharaja Hari singh, and India(Nehru regime) was supporting Shiekh abdullah but Pakistan played the game by backing the Gilgit rebels against the Maharaja and very conviniently occupied Gilgir Baltistan, Neelum and Muzafarrabd which was actually captured by the rebels, 2.) Tbh Kashmir people weren't saint either, they were againat the Maharaja since he was a Dogra Hindu from Nepal, and according to them a Muslim majority region shouldn't be ruled by a non-muslim, they need Sharia in Kashmir and Sultan-E-Kashmir, Maharaj was also protecting minority Hindu Pandits of Kashmir( the real native peope of Kashmir) from the Muslims, however once insurgency started in 1947, the main target of the rebels were Hindus, Mirpur atttcaks, for instance, and again during 1990 insurgency of Kashmmir against India, many native Hindu Pandits were forced to move out of the vale, which is also said to be one of biggest exodus of the modern era,
C'mon you pll don't have to continue the fight which Britishers brought us into.. we are the same people, We share a comman history and culture let's don't let religious lines devide us. There are happily living muslims in India, and Muslims in pak. Hate is political but love is natural.. i have heard old people describing how Hindus muslims and Sikh kids used to play together.. And their families used to celebrate all the festivals together but this partision was ugly and I wish thing like this won't happen anywhere else
@@PunjabHP so was locals of poonch or baramulla or kupwara. These areas were 95% muslim too Our army was in possession of skardu garrison almost entire time..( gurkha reg 50 soldiers). They had to withdraw due to inadequate ammo & no supplies just 1 months before the ceasefire. Kaash 1 mahina aur hold kar lete
@@GAURAV-dm1gm i don't think so i have read many books on 47 war and When ceasefire was called on 5th janaury 1949 it was already a brutal winter there so there was no way India was able to do offensive in snowy weather around Skardu. India could have won more land and mayble whole of Skardu area if they waited for spring 1949 but to do that they needed to bring troops from other part of country to push towards Skardu as Enemy would have made stong positions In Skardu during the winter too
@@PunjabHP my mistake But Sher jung Thapa held on skardu for 6 months with only 250 men before withdrawing due to depleting resources & attacks on 14th august 1948 Edit - source wikipidea
Nehru dragged India to UN and stopped Indian soldiers from advancing and retaking kashmir. Still impressive how well India fought despite being incredibly ill equipped and less supplied as compared to the Pakistani Army
@prestallar4339 Nice delusional bubble,"the entire population" of Kashmir just tells me how reliable your source of information is😂 The Indian army didn't fight Gilgit scouts only you idiot,the Indian army came into contact with the Gilgit scouts when they were pushing of Pakistani forces off Srinagar and other parts of Central and southern J&K
The main invading forces were not Kashmiris and other regional groups, they were mostly Pashtos and other tribal forces and it is largely accepted that these were equipped and armed By Pakistan, yes some Kashmiri units mutinied away into the other side in the J&K Front, but Sheikh Abdullah(National conference Leader in Kashmir)enjoyed very strong support from the local population and he rallied against the monarchy and was very supportive of the Indian stand in Kashmir and compared the Pak forces with Nazi german forces occupying, he had himself urged for self-rule earlier but the national conference took a stand similar to that taken by the Akali dal when the British declined their demand when Pak forces failed to withdraw according to Un terms. he and his supporters were not for joining Pakistan and Pak forces were much more despised than the Indian forces.And yes when the indian army rolled into Srinagar Pak forces officially came down into the valley in significant numbers.Though yes you're correct the loss of Gilgit and most of baltistan were before pak forces arrived en masse
@@handlevery1karefully Indian soldiers were very ill equipped,do some more research. Indian logistics were horrendous and Indian soldiers didn't even have the proper gear to survive in winter
I told him to include other kashmir wars too in the same video, and was doing it. But yesterday he decided to just upload this cuz he was too lazy for it...
That was in 1965. They returned it because of Tashkent Agreement and also because India itself had swathes of territory to Pakistan in several fronts/sectors
I haven't really decided anything now,i can't say there will be any video at all,maybe i will make the history of tamil nadu as that was what the poll decided.
@@bharathball he meant "You are a genuinely good-hearted individual, with a compassionate soul that radiates kindness and warmth, bringing positivity and joy to those around you. Your generosity and empathy make the world a better place, and your presence enriches the lives of others."
For your kind Information India never captured Aksai Chin Because of Karakoram Ranges India creating Forward post only in 1960s and Capture Depsang Plains But we Intrude more into Aksai chin Because to Protect the Sinkiang Tibet Highway 1962 war Broke out which Hailed Indian Advances but Eventually China Retreated 20kms from Actual Mac Mohan Line and Ladakh Source - Wikipidea and Chinese Documentary about Sino Indian War zh.m.wikipedia.org/zh-hans/%E4%B8%AD%E5%8D%B0%E8%BE%B9%E5%A2%83%E6%88%98%E4%BA%89
1.) The article of Times magazine that you are referring to is completelly fake, the actual article says "This time, India's victory was nearly total: India accepted a cease-fire only after it had occupied 740 square miles [1,900 km2], though Pakistan had made marginal gains of 210 square miles [540 km2] of territory. Despite the obvious strength of the Indian win, both countries claim to have been victorious." And this was written by none other than Arif Jamal, under the article of "The shadow war" 2.) Now about P.R pradhan book, yeah I agree that's what I was explaining to you, India was forced to sign the Tashekent agreement by the axis of US-Soviets and China, international involvement had made India to move back, you have proved my point LOL( and point to be noted, that was an Indian writter, you yourself are using Indian sources LMAO) 3.) Brave of you to use Tariq Ali's fat claims of Pakistani victory in 1965 war by completelly ignoring the fact that Tariq Ali is a British born Pakistani, that's a fact that he would back Pakistan over India, nothing new here, what makes you believe that British Pakistani lobby would support India over Pakistan 4.) Now the book of Samir Chopra(Indian writer) you should know the background that Samir Chopra is an Indian communist and had connections with the several Chinese backed Moists and Naxallites insurgents, no wonder he would peddle lies about India, still the Samir Chopra hadn't claimed Pakistani victory in the 1965 war but had praised Pakistani advances against India during the initial phase of the Battle of Chawinda, he had complletly omitted the Battle of Asal uttar undet his book, thus not a great source, he would surely back Chinese allies(Pakistan) over democratic India Let me show you some real claims, According to the historian william dlymple "The biggest loss for Pakistan was the destruction of its armour. Laced with the latest M-47 and M-48 Patton tanks, Pakistan’s 1 Armoured Division was seen to be an invincible force at the start of the war. By the time war ended on 22 September, the Pakistani armour, despite its superior tanks, was destroyed by the less-fancied Indian tanks of World War II vintage. Over 450 Pakistani tanks were either completely destroyed or captured by the Indian Army. By comparison, India suffered the loss of less than 100 tanks." According to dennis kux "A country that had begun the war with the ultimate objective of teaching the enemy a lasting lesson was forced to accept international intervention, India is surely the ultimate victor" According to the Marshal Asghar Khan "They (Ayub and the army) had planned Operation Gibraltar for self-glory rather than in the national interest. It was a wrong war. And they misled the nation with a big lie that India, rather than Pakistan, had provoked the war and that we were the victims of Indian aggression.’"
Sorry if I'm mistaken? but I don't seem to have used any of the things listed here in this video?? the video did not have anything to do with the 1965 war nor was it mentioned much. Thank you for the information anyway.
@@bharathball I am just clarifying about each and every Indo-Pakistani war, And have made five comments here, your video quality is quite good and I appreciate it but somewhwre it creates a fake scenerio that Pakistan had captured the areas of Gilgit Baltistan from India, which is completely fake, Gilgit scouts had captured thise areas from forces of Maharaja of Kashmir, in reality it was India which had defy Pakistan out of the vale
I have a question why did Hydrabad go to India when the Nizam of Hydrabad was a Muslim ruler because the population was majority hindu and rightfully went to India as it should have but than when it comes to Kashmir where the population was Muslim majority it should have gone to Pakistan. India should never have got involved in the Kashmir issue the whole issue was between the Mahraja and Pakistan we all know what the end outcome would have been Pakistan would have taken kashmir and thats it. No wars no hatred between Pakistan and India and we'd all be happy that's it but no india wanted more and more they wanted to be more and got involved in kashmir. India could have rightfully said no to the Mahraja knowing partition happened on religious lines and Kashmir was never and will never end good for India. It's 2024 and nothing changed I'm not saying Pakistan is perfect but kashmir will always be Muslim majority and Pakistans entire indentity was and is a Muslim homeland in South Asia these things will never change. I love Indians have plenty of Indian friends it's a shame this happened and both countries media and government and spreading hatred and this will never end that's the end of my rant 🤦🏽♂️
@@adalhussain558 I have 4 answers, 1.Considering Jinnah's concept(Pakistani concept)(which you seem to have based your question on):If India was divided strictly into a Muslim India and Hindu India,considering relegion as the most principle unifying factor in the subcontinent,then rightfully both sides do not care about anything else other than relegion when it comes to the border and we would have had 2 different peaceful countries optimally with people predominantly no longer hating each other and good co-operation.In such a scenario Pakistan is accepted,And India is just the Hindu version of Pakistan (all other relegions are also ignored in such a concept) 2.The Indian idea:Pakistan's justification with or without kashmir in itself is an insult to the idea of India,The foundational concept of India,one which is still entertained by the government and most of the populace is not a 'Hindu homeland'!,The subcontinent much like Europe is very pluralistic,every state or province of modern India and Pakistan have their own languages,sometimes multiple etc.etc India was meant to be a Union of Indic societies beyond relegion,caste, ethnicity and tribe.Therefore,India can never accept Pakistan's foundation as accepting Pakistan is the equivalent of refusing itself.In such a case an Independent Kashmir valley is much less of an issue to India than the endorsement of Pakistani ideas.Like why did Muslims need a seperate homeland for themselves in The Subcontinent?what was the issue with being part of a nation in which their spritual beliefs are not majority of the population?Like were Punjabi,Bengali,Sindhi and other muslims and Hindus who lived side by side more different from each other than they were to a Pashtun,Nagamese or Tamil?Isn't the very desire for Pakistan a communal ambition for Domination?add to that very significant numbers of muslims across the subcontinent opposed this and many even in the lands of modern Pakistan resonated more with the idea of a unified India than that of a seperate 'Muslim' Homeland 3.For them:Kashmir valley was predominantly Muslim but it was not part of the Indian national movement as strongly as other places,and by extension not part of a movement for a Muslim India,Pakistan A democratic independent state was the want of the populace in the valley,not Pakistan .Outside the valley:The population outside is about as significant as inside though the outside part makes like 80 percent of the conflict zone.The people of Jammu were dominantly Dogra and add to that Indian far right national movements were very active there and Joining Pakistan,let alone being seperate from India was not something anyone there would be ready for .In Gilgit yes they themselves joined Pakistan,but Ladakh was definitely not pro Pakistan and Baltistan was not a certain supportet of Pakistan.Many thought the Princely state would be partitioned in itself.At the same time such conflicted opinions between the populace did not exist in Hyderabad or Junagadh.The Population was overwhelmingly supportive of Indian rule than that of The Nizam.And to be honest yes there were many muslims who did not resonate with the idea of India. 4.Messy truth:Though the founding concept of India is still relevant,most Indians do not care,common people have very little to care about borders politics and ideology and in reality even some of the most nationalistic Indians are not free of the communal madness dominating and cursing our union in many ways ,this is also the case with Pakistan,despite a fully free muslim homeland,a ridiculous majority by relegion of 'muslims',Pakistan is very much held back,also affected by the communal madness of the british era that still dominates politics,dosen't like almost every province of Pakistan have a significant separatism or terrorism problem?Like the very reason our medias are the masters of communal sensitivity and hatred is due to our own very political irresponsibility,we have let communal emotions dominate our subcontinent's politics for 2 centuries at this point,Is it even possible to imagine politics in the US or Europe being much more about the genetic or religious difference between the voters than actual issues,and here in this subcontinent we have no lack of issues.At the end of the day States are prudential creations and not products of emotion,mixing relegion with politics is nonsensical as Governments are not choosen to guide the voters to God.States are bodies which must ensure developement,progress and safety of its citizens.In a logical way,the solution for Kashmir conflict is obvious,whatever we rant at the end of the day Kashmir dispute is solely based on its *strategic value* , and thus the conflict is not the source of hate,rather hate is the source of the conflict,the lack of trust between the nation's and its people is the source of conflict and Kashmir is just one of the hyped symptoms of this century long circus.If the nation's are willing to co-operate,do you think it really matters in whose hands the Kashmir valley is?Alsace Lorraine is with France and Germany does not make a fuss about it,The long hatred and conflict between the Germans and French was not because of Alsace Lorraine rather Alsace Lorraine was the result of imperial ambitions that conflict,mistrust and hatred.South Asia is one of the poorest regions in the world,though many may not realise,The Indo-Pakistani conflict is one of the major reasons of this lack of straight growth here.The lack of rational society.
Junagadh issue is the main reason if jinnah not accepted junagadh Accession with Pakistan. Sarder Patel deputy prime minister at that time have no issue if Kashmir join Pakistan but Pakistan started all mess . And another hypocrisy of Pakistani politician like jinnah and Pakistan pm liaquat ali Khan both want Kashmir and Hyderabad according to there Kashmir is a Muslim majority princely state so Kashmir is rightfully belong to Pakistan but in case of Hyderabad they say Hyderabad ruler decide which country he want to join LOL. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 .
The general consensus is an indian victory though and not a decisive one due to the differences in the goals. Also, Pakistan did not officially support the invading forces and the rapid advances in Gilgit were before Indian forces crossed into the plateau, the Gilgit scouts(Assigned under the state of J&K after British withdrawal) mutinied upon Indian intervention, effectively turning the whole area instantly away from the Indian control, but the loss of Baltistan was definitely after the arrival of indian forces though in very small numbers the Defence ministry only began a proper deployment thereafter Leh was under threat, the Counteroffensive into Dras and Kargil and the reinstatement of Complete Indian control in Ladakh is generally considered a change of tides in the Northern front, it is believed that if the war continued post the winter of 1948-1949 India would have regained control of Baltistan and adjoining northern areas, adding to the consensus favoring an Indian victory. On top of this India managed to regain most of the Population centers in the J&K front, that front mostly saw Indian advances as the forces were pushed all the way out of Srinagar into the current border,and again here the general consensus is an Indian victory if the war continued post winter.The issue in the J and K front was that during the time Pakistan lacked support in the muslim majority Kashmir valley and the non muslim populations of Jammu were very hostile to Pakistan and independence movements due to the large amount of refugees that settled there post partition which resulted in the violent communal bloodshed in Jammu.In a nutshell, Pakistan enjoyed more passionate support among the Muslims of Jammu who were recent victims of the allegedly J&K-supported violence against them but lacked proper support in the Kashmir valley because of a strong INC regional presence thus a lack of support for the original All India Muslim league, and the Invading tribal forces were foreign for the kashmiris and Dogras alike,Everyone outside of jammu strongly hated the King,but they just so hated the looting tribals.India enjoyed significant local support where support for Pak forces strained in the main centers after the damage caused by the tribal forces.
Hey Bharath ball the first india ball history was cringe and non graphics and i didn't understand wat this balls was doing ? Pls do again india ball history and sure it has graphics and non cringe
It's funny all Pakistani have against India is religious insult, are you even aware not all Indians are Hindus, and we focus more on science & philosophy rather than religion. @@Free_Palestine416
I'm from Ladakh & I hope Pakistan never attacks us again, there are no Buddhist left there😢
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pakistan in north kashmir: 🚘💨
pakistan in south kashmir: 🐢
Coz Pakistan had occupied North Kashmir from the Maharaja and not from the Indian forces, but in the Southern Kashmir Pakistan was facing India, thus Pakistan got defeated by India in Southern Kashmir
@prestallar4339 yup, Gilgit forces had rebelled against the Maharaja of Kashmir, amd finalky they had declared war against the Maharaja, soon on 20th of October entire Giligt Baltistan was occupied by the Gilgit rebels, by 22nd October entire gilgit and Baltistan including Mirpur and Muzaffarabd of Jammu was merged into Pakistan by the Gilgit rebels and Pakistan along with Gilgit rebels had invaded Kashmir vale, finally Maharaja accede Kashmir to India which lead to war and by the early november, India hsd defeated both Pakistan and Gilgit Rebels and had won the control of most of Kashmir, Ladakh and most of Jammu as well
@@ilmakhanafridi9396"defeated gilgit Rebels" why is gilgit part of Pakistan tho???
@@randomtanker4355 can't you read???
I have quite clearlly mentioned that the Gilgit Baltistan was occupied by the Gilgit rebels prior to the making of the IOA with India, Gilgit Baltistan later was merged/occupied by Pakistan by the Gilgit rebels who were marching towards Kashmir vale and finally when India had dfeated the rebels and Pakistan in the Kashmir vale, Pakistan didn't vacate the occupied land,
Thus Pakistan got Gilgit Baltistan since it wasn't really facing India then, as India had not even invaded Kashmir by then as no IOA was made with India untill the Pakistani invassion of Kashmir, however Pakistan had failed the vale,Ladakh and Jammu as by this time IOA with India was officially made hence Kashmir officially became a part of India( Pakistani occupied terretories of Kashmir had also became a part of India since acvording to the treaty entire Kashmir was India as Maharaja wasn't really revognizing Pakistani occupation) thus Pakistan had to face the Indian forces in the valley and Ladakh and got defeated
In the south it was harder for Pakistan since Pakistan had three major enemies fighting together: the Indian Army, Jammu and Kashmir state forces, deadly Hindu-Sikh militias whereas the Pakistani Pashtuns and the Pakistan Army were fighting them
It appears that Akshay Chin was not under Indian control during this period🤔. Is this an error in the video, or are there any other considerations?
as far as I am aware, the British have been using the Johnson line since the fall of the Qing in 1912 and continued to use it until 1947, during this time it would be considered a part of the J&K princely state which later became independent and acceded to India, though militarisation of the region began post-1954. The Chinese forces would only gain complete control over the region post the 1962 war and their presence there only began with the the annexation of Tibet. Unless Nationalist forces or Tibetan forces had their presence there, which i am not aware of.The region was under Indian control-Though again it was mostly uninhabited so nothing had to be really done for control.
1.) Maharaj was a nemesis of India coz he was an arch rival of Shiekh Abdullah, and shiekh abdullah was one of biggest ally of Nehru, this is the reason why initially he wasn't acceding Kashmir to India
2.) Gilgit rebels had attavked the vale even before when Indian forces had airlifted to Kashmir, this itself proove that Gilgit rebels had defeated the forces of Maharaja but not the Indian forces, India had finally invaded Kashmir from the south by 26th of oct, and Pakistan had already invaded Kashmir by 22nd of october, this proove that it was India, which had defeated Gilgit rebels and Pakitani forces and had moved them out of the vale,
3.) I agree India took the matter to UN, coz
A.) India had the support of Shikh abdullah
B.) Case of Junagarh was still pending
C.) India was always the biggest regional power
D.) India was overconfident about her position in Kashmir,
India was already defeating Pakistan, it was a diplomatic failure of India, if India had not took this matter to the UN, then it was just the matter of time, and whole Kahsmir would had been a part of India,
your histrory lessons needs to be checked, Jinnah had stooped at unimaginable levels , he had wanted to to establish the illegal state of Pakistan quite entirely over the Hindu India , his ill intentions were not just limited to the the 6 states, case of Junagarh and Hyderabad prooves that, and also if Pakistan could had the audacity of claiming Hindu majority Hyderabad and Hindu majority Junagrah on the basis of so-called IOA ,then why not India?India is way more powerfull and influentiol than Pakistan, if Pakistan can dare to provoke India, then the regional superpower India would surely retaliate and also the people of Kashmir had never wanted to join Pakistan, they just had wanted to get rid of the Dogra ruler, and for that they had been supporting Shiekh abdullah, shiekh abdullah was pro-India, coz of that jinnah had even referred Abdullah as a traitor, which had offended the Kashmiri people, and also we are talking about the 1940' sat that time, Hindus of kashmir used to make about 30 percent of the population( before the forcefull exodus of Hindus by the Muslims of Kashmir), and the Hindus of Kashmir(including Bhuddists and Sikhs)were and are still highly pro-India, so your arguments are quite baseless
And for the record, Pakistan wasn't really supporting a plebscide in Kashmir initially coz it knew that the peope would vote for Shiekj abdullah and he was sponsoring the legallity of the Instrument of Accession of Kashmir with India ,coz of this Pakistan voilated the UN resolution and din't vacate the occupied terretories,Dogra ruler was Hindu, but still his ties with the Indian government were quite bad(that's the reason why din't signed the IOA with the Indian government initially, but only after the Pakistani invasion of Kashmir)
The misleading info which is being spread by the Pakistani media has deeply infiltrated into the minds of Pakistanis!
Pakistan is purely at the fault, it's Pakistan, which is instigating this issue even after losing all the wars and conflicts against India, India is, was, will always be on the morally right side,
What if the native Kashmiri people? From what I can tell, it seems that they wanted to end the oppressive regime of the Maharaja, but it looks like Pakistan swiftly took advantage of the Kashmiri's hope of independence and tried to get them to join Pakistan. Am I correct?
@@LordJagd yes,
Kashmir people wanted that the Indian ally Shiekh Abdullah should rule Kashmir against the Maharaja Hari singh, and India(Nehru regime) was supporting Shiekh abdullah but Pakistan played the game by backing the Gilgit rebels against the Maharaja and very conviniently occupied Gilgir Baltistan, Neelum and Muzafarrabd which was actually captured by the rebels,
2.) Tbh Kashmir people weren't saint either, they were againat the Maharaja since he was a Dogra Hindu from Nepal, and according to them a Muslim majority region shouldn't be ruled by a non-muslim, they need Sharia in Kashmir and Sultan-E-Kashmir,
Maharaj was also protecting minority Hindu Pandits of Kashmir( the real native peope of Kashmir) from the Muslims, however once insurgency started in 1947, the main target of the rebels were Hindus, Mirpur atttcaks, for instance, and again during 1990 insurgency of Kashmmir against India, many native Hindu Pandits were forced to move out of the vale, which is also said to be one of biggest exodus of the modern era,
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Most commanders and leaders in this war on both sides were former british indian officers, including lord montbatten who is the gov.gen of india
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C'mon you pll don't have to continue the fight which Britishers brought us into.. we are the same people, We share a comman history and culture let's don't let religious lines devide us. There are happily living muslims in India, and Muslims in pak. Hate is political but love is natural.. i have heard old people describing how Hindus muslims and Sikh kids used to play together.. And their families used to celebrate all the festivals together but this partision was ugly and I wish thing like this won't happen anywhere else
@@speedjunkie7758 talking about beef.. u can easily get beef in many places in India like Kerala, north eastern states, Hyderabad, etc
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We should have focused on skardu instead of fighting around in north kashmir or punch region.
Yes Now I know how easy it was for us to get Gilgit but we ignored
The main problem was the local population Of Gilgit was almost muslim and they were against maharaja or India
@@PunjabHP so was locals of poonch or baramulla or kupwara.
These areas were 95% muslim too
Our army was in possession of skardu garrison almost entire time..( gurkha reg 50 soldiers).
They had to withdraw due to inadequate ammo & no supplies just 1 months before the ceasefire.
Kaash 1 mahina aur hold kar lete
@@GAURAV-dm1gm i don't think so i have read many books on 47 war and When ceasefire was called on 5th janaury 1949 it was already a brutal winter there so there was no way India was able to do offensive in snowy weather around Skardu. India could have won more land and mayble whole of Skardu area if they waited for spring 1949 but to do that they needed to bring troops from other part of country to push towards Skardu as Enemy would have made stong positions In Skardu during the winter too
@@PunjabHP my mistake
But Sher jung Thapa held on skardu for 6 months with only 250 men before withdrawing due to depleting resources & attacks on 14th august 1948
Edit - source wikipidea
How do you create these video pls do tutorial
Nehru dragged India to UN and stopped Indian soldiers from advancing and retaking kashmir.
Still impressive how well India fought despite being incredibly ill equipped and less supplied as compared to the Pakistani Army
@prestallar4339 Nice delusional bubble,"the entire population" of Kashmir just tells me how reliable your source of information is😂
The Indian army didn't fight Gilgit scouts only you idiot,the Indian army came into contact with the Gilgit scouts when they were pushing of Pakistani forces off Srinagar and other parts of Central and southern J&K
The main invading forces were not Kashmiris and other regional groups, they were mostly Pashtos and other tribal forces and it is largely accepted that these were equipped and armed By Pakistan, yes some Kashmiri units mutinied away into the other side in the J&K Front, but Sheikh Abdullah(National conference Leader in Kashmir)enjoyed very strong support from the local population and he rallied against the monarchy and was very supportive of the Indian stand in Kashmir and compared the Pak forces with Nazi german forces occupying, he had himself urged for self-rule earlier but the national conference took a stand similar to that taken by the Akali dal when the British declined their demand when Pak forces failed to withdraw according to Un terms. he and his supporters were not for joining Pakistan and Pak forces were much more despised than the Indian forces.And yes when the indian army rolled into Srinagar Pak forces officially came down into the valley in significant numbers.Though yes you're correct the loss of Gilgit and most of baltistan were before pak forces arrived en masse
@@bharathball Yup,exactly
Less equiped my foot, Pakistan and India got same army with only Pakistan got one third of all army supplies, don't know who guide you
@@handlevery1karefully Indian soldiers were very ill equipped,do some more research. Indian logistics were horrendous and Indian soldiers didn't even have the proper gear to survive in winter
cool video will there be more on these kashmir wars you will make?
I told him to include other kashmir wars too in the same video, and was doing it. But yesterday he decided to just upload this cuz he was too lazy for it...
maybe
@@awijeetsharma3842 ok
How about series of Anglo Maratha,anglo Mysore war
Glory to the Indian and Hinduism from Czech Republic 🇨🇿🤝🇮🇳🕉
Doodh mangoge puri dairy denge
Kashmir mangoge toh Karanchi bhi chin lenge
Pehle Azad Kashmir or gilgit to lo 😂
Bro i have a question what are u gonna do for 10k special ?🤔
hmm,Idk maybe just maybe maybe maybe maybe history of tn comes out
@@bharathballbro pls come back!!!
India did not pay that much attention to save Gilgit Baltistan. They were more worried to save Kashmir valley.
save? uh Gilgit Baltistani ppl are the most pro Pakistani u can find out in whole of Pakistan
Remember me?
I still have ur flag
Why did India give the Haji Pir Pass to Pakistan after the ceasefire? 🤔
That was in 1965. They returned it because of Tashkent Agreement and also because India itself had swathes of territory to Pakistan in several fronts/sectors
But you why stop making videos ?
Well lockdown stopped and i diverted into game development for a while,i will return soon ig
Lol Nehru fool
He thought UN was like a court of law
For ceasefire
India lost lots of its money
hmm
Zǎoshang hǎo india my friend
do more
Make a on history of south india
On which topic will you next video come?
I haven't really decided anything now,i can't say there will be any video at all,maybe i will make the history of tamil nadu as that was what the poll decided.
Nice, didn't expect this good from a lazy kid 😂
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thanks
@@bharathball he meant "You are a genuinely good-hearted individual, with a compassionate soul that radiates kindness and warmth, bringing positivity and joy to those around you. Your generosity and empathy make the world a better place, and your presence enriches the lives of others."
PASHTUNZZ CONQUERED KASHMIR
Pashtunistan empire
India should have focused more on gilgit as it connects with afghanistan.
Living in Kashmir and loyalty with India. Chiiii 🤡
@@moonyt7033 I spoke about Gilgit not Kashmir.
Aksai chin was than captured by China
For your kind Information India never captured Aksai Chin Because of Karakoram Ranges India creating Forward post only in 1960s and Capture Depsang Plains But we Intrude more into Aksai chin Because to Protect the Sinkiang Tibet Highway 1962 war Broke out which Hailed Indian Advances but Eventually China Retreated 20kms from Actual Mac Mohan Line and Ladakh
Source - Wikipidea and Chinese Documentary about Sino Indian War
zh.m.wikipedia.org/zh-hans/%E4%B8%AD%E5%8D%B0%E8%BE%B9%E5%A2%83%E6%88%98%E4%BA%89
noice
oh u're still there
@@bharathball becuz exm ovr
@@BestIndiaMapping.Animations oh
🇦🇫Afghanistan modern history video
This battle seems to be a tie.Love from Bangladesh.
1.) The article of Times magazine that you are referring to is completelly fake, the actual article says
"This time, India's victory was nearly total: India accepted a cease-fire only after it had occupied 740 square miles [1,900 km2], though Pakistan had made marginal gains of 210 square miles [540 km2] of territory. Despite the obvious strength of the Indian win, both countries claim to have been victorious."
And this was written by none other than Arif Jamal, under the article of "The shadow war"
2.) Now about P.R pradhan book, yeah I agree that's what I was explaining to you, India was forced to sign the Tashekent agreement by the axis of US-Soviets and China, international involvement had made India to move back, you have proved my point LOL( and point to be noted, that was an Indian writter, you yourself are using Indian sources LMAO)
3.) Brave of you to use Tariq Ali's fat claims of Pakistani victory in 1965 war by completelly ignoring the fact that Tariq Ali is a British born Pakistani, that's a fact that he would back Pakistan over India, nothing new here, what makes you believe that British Pakistani lobby would support India over Pakistan
4.) Now the book of Samir Chopra(Indian writer) you should know the background that Samir Chopra is an Indian communist and had connections with the several Chinese backed Moists and Naxallites insurgents, no wonder he would peddle lies about India, still the Samir Chopra hadn't claimed Pakistani victory in the 1965 war but had praised Pakistani advances against India during the initial phase of the Battle of Chawinda, he had complletly omitted the Battle of Asal uttar undet his book, thus not a great source, he would surely back Chinese allies(Pakistan) over democratic India
Let me show you some real claims,
According to the historian william dlymple
"The biggest loss for Pakistan was the destruction of its armour. Laced with the latest M-47 and M-48 Patton tanks, Pakistan’s 1 Armoured Division was seen to be an invincible force at the start of the war. By the time war ended on 22 September, the Pakistani armour, despite its superior tanks, was destroyed by the less-fancied Indian tanks of World War II vintage. Over 450 Pakistani tanks were either completely destroyed or captured by the Indian Army. By comparison, India suffered the loss of less than 100 tanks."
According to dennis kux
"A country that had begun the war with the ultimate objective of teaching the enemy a lasting lesson was forced to accept international intervention, India is surely the ultimate victor"
According to the Marshal Asghar Khan
"They (Ayub and the army) had planned Operation Gibraltar for self-glory rather than in the national interest. It was a wrong war. And they misled the nation with a big lie that India, rather than Pakistan, had provoked the war and that we were the victims of Indian aggression.’"
Sorry if I'm mistaken? but I don't seem to have used any of the things listed here in this video?? the video did not have anything to do with the 1965 war nor was it mentioned much. Thank you for the information anyway.
@@bharathball I am just clarifying about each and every Indo-Pakistani war,
And have made five comments here, your video quality is quite good and I appreciate it but somewhwre it creates a fake scenerio that Pakistan had captured the areas of Gilgit Baltistan from India, which is completely fake, Gilgit scouts had captured thise areas from forces of Maharaja of Kashmir, in reality it was India which had defy Pakistan out of the vale
I have a question why did Hydrabad go to India when the Nizam of Hydrabad was a Muslim ruler because the population was majority hindu and rightfully went to India as it should have but than when it comes to Kashmir where the population was Muslim majority it should have gone to Pakistan. India should never have got involved in the Kashmir issue the whole issue was between the Mahraja and Pakistan we all know what the end outcome would have been Pakistan would have taken kashmir and thats it. No wars no hatred between Pakistan and India and we'd all be happy that's it but no india wanted more and more they wanted to be more and got involved in kashmir. India could have rightfully said no to the Mahraja knowing partition happened on religious lines and Kashmir was never and will never end good for India. It's 2024 and nothing changed I'm not saying Pakistan is perfect but kashmir will always be Muslim majority and Pakistans entire indentity was and is a Muslim homeland in South Asia these things will never change. I love Indians have plenty of Indian friends it's a shame this happened and both countries media and government and spreading hatred and this will never end that's the end of my rant 🤦🏽♂️
@@adalhussain558 I have 4 answers,
1.Considering Jinnah's concept(Pakistani concept)(which you seem to have based your question on):If India was divided strictly into a Muslim India and Hindu India,considering relegion as the most principle unifying factor in the subcontinent,then rightfully both sides do not care about anything else other than relegion when it comes to the border and we
would have had 2 different peaceful countries optimally with people predominantly no longer hating each other and good co-operation.In such a scenario Pakistan is accepted,And India is just the Hindu version of Pakistan (all other relegions are also ignored in such a concept)
2.The Indian idea:Pakistan's justification with or without kashmir in itself is an insult to the idea of India,The foundational concept of India,one which is still entertained by the government and most of the populace is not a 'Hindu homeland'!,The subcontinent much like Europe is very pluralistic,every state or province of modern India and Pakistan have their own languages,sometimes multiple etc.etc
India was meant to be a Union of Indic societies beyond relegion,caste, ethnicity and tribe.Therefore,India can never accept Pakistan's foundation as accepting Pakistan is the equivalent of refusing itself.In such a case an Independent Kashmir valley is much less of an issue to India than the endorsement of Pakistani ideas.Like why did Muslims need a seperate homeland for themselves in The Subcontinent?what was the issue with being part of a nation in which their spritual beliefs are not majority of the population?Like were Punjabi,Bengali,Sindhi and other muslims and Hindus who lived side by side more different from each other than they were to a Pashtun,Nagamese or Tamil?Isn't the very desire for Pakistan a communal ambition for Domination?add to that very significant numbers of muslims across the subcontinent opposed this and many even in the lands of modern Pakistan resonated more with the idea of a unified India than that of a seperate 'Muslim' Homeland
3.For them:Kashmir valley was predominantly Muslim but it was not part of the Indian national movement as strongly as other places,and by extension not part of a movement for a Muslim India,Pakistan
A democratic independent state was the want of the populace in the valley,not Pakistan .Outside the valley:The population outside is about as significant as inside though the outside part makes like 80 percent of the conflict zone.The people of Jammu were dominantly Dogra and add to that Indian far right national movements were very active there and Joining Pakistan,let alone being seperate from India was not something anyone there would be ready for .In Gilgit yes they themselves joined Pakistan,but Ladakh was definitely not pro Pakistan and Baltistan was not a certain supportet of Pakistan.Many thought the Princely state would be partitioned in itself.At the same time such conflicted opinions between the populace did not exist in Hyderabad or Junagadh.The Population was overwhelmingly supportive of Indian rule than that of The Nizam.And to be honest yes there were many muslims who did not resonate with the idea of India.
4.Messy truth:Though the founding concept of India is still relevant,most Indians do not care,common people have very little to care about borders politics and ideology and in reality even some of the most nationalistic Indians are not free of the communal madness dominating and cursing our union in many ways ,this is also the case with Pakistan,despite a fully free muslim homeland,a ridiculous majority by relegion of 'muslims',Pakistan is very much held back,also affected by the communal madness of the british era that still dominates politics,dosen't like almost every province of Pakistan have a significant separatism or terrorism problem?Like the very reason our medias are the masters of communal sensitivity and hatred is due to our own very political irresponsibility,we have let communal emotions dominate our subcontinent's politics for 2 centuries at this point,Is it even possible to imagine politics in the US or Europe being much more about the genetic or religious difference between the voters than actual issues,and here in this subcontinent we have no lack of issues.At the end of the day States are prudential creations and not products of emotion,mixing relegion with politics is nonsensical as Governments are not choosen to guide the voters to God.States are bodies which must ensure developement,progress and safety of its citizens.In a logical way,the solution for Kashmir conflict is obvious,whatever we rant at the end of the day Kashmir dispute is solely based on its *strategic value* , and thus the conflict is not the source of hate,rather hate is the source of the conflict,the lack of trust between the nation's and its people is the source of conflict and Kashmir is just one of the hyped symptoms of this century long circus.If the nation's are willing to co-operate,do you think it really matters in whose hands the Kashmir valley is?Alsace Lorraine is with France and Germany does not make a fuss about it,The long hatred and conflict between the Germans and French was not because of Alsace Lorraine rather Alsace Lorraine was the result of imperial ambitions that conflict,mistrust and hatred.South Asia is one of the poorest regions in the world,though many may not realise,The Indo-Pakistani conflict is one of the major reasons of this lack of straight growth here.The lack of rational society.
Junagadh issue is the main reason if jinnah not accepted junagadh Accession with Pakistan. Sarder Patel deputy prime minister at that time have no issue if Kashmir join Pakistan but Pakistan started all mess . And another hypocrisy of Pakistani politician like jinnah and Pakistan pm liaquat ali Khan both want Kashmir and Hyderabad according to there Kashmir is a Muslim majority princely state so Kashmir is rightfully belong to Pakistan but in case of Hyderabad they say Hyderabad ruler decide which country he want to join LOL. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 .
Hey remember me ? btw do you have an discord server
yo,my discord server is still digitally there but 0 members,i have shut it down for now
@@bharathball oh
blud come back
So pakistan Captures Gilgit but indians still say they won the War 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Unke se gilgit Kashmir ka hissa nhi hai😂
The general consensus is an indian victory though and not a decisive one due to the differences in the goals. Also, Pakistan did not officially support the invading forces and the rapid advances in Gilgit were before Indian forces crossed into the plateau, the Gilgit scouts(Assigned under the state of J&K after British withdrawal) mutinied upon Indian intervention, effectively turning the whole area instantly away from the Indian control, but the loss of Baltistan was definitely after the arrival of indian forces though in very small numbers the Defence ministry only began a proper deployment thereafter Leh was under threat, the Counteroffensive into Dras and Kargil and the reinstatement of Complete Indian control in Ladakh is generally considered a change of tides in the Northern front, it is believed that if the war continued post the winter of 1948-1949 India would have regained control of Baltistan and adjoining northern areas, adding to the consensus favoring an Indian victory. On top of this India managed to regain most of the Population centers in the J&K front, that front mostly saw Indian advances as the forces were pushed all the way out of Srinagar into the current border,and again here the general consensus is an Indian victory if the war continued post winter.The issue in the J and K front was that during the time Pakistan lacked support in the muslim majority Kashmir valley and the non muslim populations of Jammu were very hostile to Pakistan and independence movements due to the large amount of refugees that settled there post partition which resulted in the violent communal bloodshed in Jammu.In a nutshell, Pakistan enjoyed more passionate support among the Muslims of Jammu who were recent victims of the allegedly J&K-supported violence against them but lacked proper support in the Kashmir valley because of a strong INC regional presence thus a lack of support for the original All India Muslim league, and the Invading tribal forces were foreign for the kashmiris and Dogras alike,Everyone outside of jammu strongly hated the King,but they just so hated the looting tribals.India enjoyed significant local support where support for Pak forces strained in the main centers after the damage caused by the tribal forces.
kya kre hmara desh k muslims hi madarchod nikle...unhoney pak ka sath diyaa...bc vhi maro na ja k..yaha q bethe ho
Hey Bharath ball the first india ball history was cringe and non graphics and i didn't understand wat this balls was doing ? Pls do again india ball history and sure it has graphics and non cringe
well maybe,but still unlikely because if i ever were to upload again it would be the videos that won the previous polls
Kashmir is Kashmir! Not India Or Pakistan Or China And Thay Have Right To Vote Who Thay Support. Love From Bangladesh 🇧🇩💖
😛😛😛😛😛
Kashmir is much smaller than ii looks
Bangladesh you'r pakistani too,
That's Crazy
No bro kashmir king joined india
Thank God Skardu is with Pakistan. It is a breathtaking place. It's like heaven
Alhamdulillah
Mash'Allah
If pakistan wan they can conquer whole kashmir 😮 india just conquer little 😂
Most kashmir is in india🤣🤣🤣45percent and pakistan have only 35,china 20
Kashmir 🇵🇰
Does your Kashmir also come with Ladkah, Jammu & other Sikh, Hindu majority areas of Kashmir or only the Muslim majority ones?
Noobbb pakistane
Bhagore lindo😂
It's funny all Pakistani have against India is religious insult, are you even aware not all Indians are Hindus, and we focus more on science & philosophy rather than religion. @@Free_Palestine416
IM ALSO BHARATH BALL😅
@@Bharath_ball lol hi
Great video