This is my favorite Mohglike boss. Also, that jump dodge at 7:53 is consistent and quite easy if you can aim to land close to his back. Also shoutout to Anderson for helping me develop the the neutral jumping r2 strat. It was footage of him doing it and low profiling the melee swings coupled with his ridiculous claim that you cant attack ER bosses from neutral and that you totally could do that and not get punished in previous titles that led me to this combat strategy. Oh and quick correction to the challenge parameters, I am using the Purifying Crysteal Tear only in the mixed physick.
Personally I think Mohg is the best Boss in the Game. There are bosses who have aspects in their design that are better than him, but Mohg is just really good at everything with no major downsides. While I have encountered the jank mentioned in the description, it has never been more than a minor annoyance.
The attack is misleading people dodge the claw marks because they think thats the source of damage and then get caught by the blast. Its a pretty bad telegraph. Every fucking streamer I watch does this
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO! Huge congrats Loopie god it had to have been hell... I wasn't able to see the streams unfortunately, but based on your reaction and some of my personal experience with Mohg on low rl (not rl1+0 - rl 36+6) DAMN have I felt the sweet sweet victory! It is goddamn *insane* that you managed to never step into these bloodflames, and just the smoothness of it all... no words, you are a beast!
I had enough of the Devil’s lettuce in my system to be considered on another planet and still mustered up just enough awareness to type “BANGER” at the end. Because it was.
Does this thumbnail mean that Chris Hansen was the Zwei Guy all along !? Also Mohg was in a role-playing chat room. Miquela and him were just role-playing dude.🤷♂
Yeah beating mohg with an unupgraded zweihander at rl1 is pretty cool. But when's the feeble king "In defense of elden ring boss design" reaction video?
Honestly probably just gonna do a livestream react to it tonight if I get Godfrey and then package it into a UA-cam video if it's worth it. I still haven't seen it yet.
Its funny how Andy never figured out the claw swipe doesnt damage you but the explosion after does and its timed SOMEHOW PERFECTLY to catch a reaction roll. Almost like the devs know how most people play these games and (made bosses around the player characters moveset. Almost like they're both in the same plain of existence)
I'm hoping to hear some Opeth as a background music. That would fit the insanity of Fromsoft combat. Mogh is just a George RR Martin esque concept: not a grey character like most, just pure evil to a grotesque degree. It makes it more satisfying when you destroy that fcker. But yeah, it isn't undodgeable or unreasonable, it's very slow and predictable.
@LupineOs the songs in the video! But I mean also the Spotify playlist would be dope, you clearly have my kind of taste in music. But the playlist would be amazing for a boss fight I'm doing for my dnd game
@@professionalhimbo for DnD on spotify there is a playlist called Dnd ambient and another Called Curse of Strahd Battle Music that I use. On my stream widgets there is a link to my spotify for that and for my hard rock playlist. In this video the songs are Raining Blood by Slayer, Maul from Made in Abyss, and Rasetsu aka Theme of Kage from Hunter x Hunter 2011. The other two tracks on is from Darktide and the other is some Lava/Bowser song from a recent mario game. I'd have to check the names when I get home.
@LupineOs you're an absolute legend mate, thank you! This boss fight is gonna be a banger! And yeah I have a few ambient playlists I use with music bots- over half the party doesn't have Spotify premium, and I'd feel bad if they had get it
trying to get back to the DLC for NG+, trying out a (much) less OP build. Smashed the entire base game but I've been malding at Mohg for some reason. This vid is really great for learning the fight, and what strats are gonna work. grats on a great hitless kill.
Me: beat Mohg hitless with +0 katanas and antspur rapier after 5 days in hell Chad +0 Zwei enjoyer: kills Mohg with an heavy weapon, no status, performing talismans swap and making me discover brand new counter for his moves Very clean job man! GL for Malenia
Edit: Nihil has been tested without upgraded flasks, that complaint is false. I understand enjoying the feeling of Nihil, and i do too to an extent, but mandatory damage to beat a boss just never feels good to me unless the game is built with it in mind. I don't mind the damage aura on Smelter Demon, because lifegems counter it perfectly, but I do mind Nihil because, if you were to level Vigor and not acquire flask upgrades, then Nihil flatly denies you the right to fight Mohg phase 2. I am aware that that is a very specific situation that no one would ever fall into... Oh wait. I did. It literally happened to me when i took a character i used for a casual speedrun to fight him, and because I ignored the flasks for time, Nihil literally denied me the right to fight Mohg. I had to go out and acquire seeds to power chug Nihil, which definitely runs counter to the idea that any player can defeat any boss at any time if they are simply good at the game.
I dunno man, mohg is pretty late game and Nihil only takes 3 flasks. Typically i get about 6 or 7 flasks before even doing godrick in alot of runs. It sucks you encountered that but i still feel like it had the desired effect of making the player feel like they are outmatched in power level. Making you feel something is what art is all about, whether it's awe or dread. If what you feel is frustration then there's no shame in doing other things like leveling up on other bosses and finding more flasks. Encountering a brick wall of skill and stats and forcing you to explore more to level up and improve your skill are what open world and metroidvanias are all about
on a 60 vigor character, nihil would do around 760 hp to you 3 times (~40%), dealing a total of around ~2,300 damage. a +0 flask will heal 250 hp. so with 1900 hp you will be able to survive nihil even with +0 flasks at 60 vigor. What im trying to say is this is flat out not true at all lmao
@@loopine make no mistake, I absolutely love Mohg, and believe he is in a fourway tie for best endgame boss with Placidusax, Godfrey, and Maliketh (none of those even come close to Morgott tho), but my belief is that in a Soulslike, any player, at any time, can defeat any boss, regardless of build, gear, or exploration. My first playthrough of Dark Souls on the Switch, my first souls experience ever, saw me fight O&S on medium roll with a lightning spear. I went for Super Ornstein. He is resistant to lightning, had a moveset no other boss in the game prior or after until the DLC could match in complexity, and was after a difficult 2v1. I was chipping away at him using only my skill, as my weapon definitely wasn't doing me favors, my flasks were limited and my health couldn't take much abuse. And in spite of all of that, it only took 16 attempts. Even with limited flasks, a bad weapon, and medium roll, they were still possible for me to beat, as was every other boss in the game. THAT is what I mean. I didn't need to leave and explore, or power level, or boost my healing, I just had to git gud (I can't believe I'm saying that un-ironically). Mohg, again, is a great boss, but it definitely is possible to not be "geared enough" to fight him in a franchise where gear is, in every other scenario, a margin of error.
Wtf was that at 7:50??? You can jump over the explosion? Is it positioning dependent or can you just do it in front of him? I always thought the explosion came out as a bubble, but maybe I'll check it's hitbox on cheat engine because that's really cool. Fun fact there's actually a third jump dodge you can do against him. The second hit of his overhead spin combo can be jumped over (more like jumped through). It looks super weird. Only works if you're close enough to touch his belly button. It's the one he does at 1:55 Also you can just strafe the vertical jump attack in P2. The one 4:14. Just get close to him and circle him when he flies up. The hitbox is super generous.
Yea you can strafe the charge as well if you are close. Yea the jump on the p2 explosion finisher is consistent and easy if you unlock and kind of drift around. Most consistent way I've found is rolling forward and right to get to his side and the jumping in a bit of an arc towards his back.
![Malenia, Blade of Miquella [1 Hit, Deathless] RL1+0 Zwei Only - Elden Ring Challenge Run](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/3Ky53T5IOSE/mqdefault.jpg)
This is my favorite Mohglike boss. Also, that jump dodge at 7:53 is consistent and quite easy if you can aim to land close to his back.
Also shoutout to Anderson for helping me develop the the neutral jumping r2 strat. It was footage of him doing it and low profiling the melee swings coupled with his ridiculous claim that you cant attack ER bosses from neutral and that you totally could do that and not get punished in previous titles that led me to this combat strategy.
Oh and quick correction to the challenge parameters, I am using the Purifying Crysteal Tear only in the mixed physick.
Anderson out here accidentally doing incredibly sick punishes will always be funny to me
Personally I think Mohg is the best Boss in the Game. There are bosses who have aspects in their design that are better than him, but Mohg is just really good at everything with no major downsides. While I have encountered the jank mentioned in the description, it has never been more than a minor annoyance.
Yup, still a top 5 for me despite everything
@@loopine Who are the other 4?
@@EmissaryOfStuff right now it's Radahn, Maliketh, Radagon, Rykard and Mohg
Definitely my favorite boss hands down in the entire game. Even the music is peak epic.
Can't believe nobody took the opportunity to make a joke about his jank being a... "minor annoyance". Too late now, my boy was acquitted.
YEEEEESSSS dude holy christ I’m sad I missed it but I am so glad you managed hitless. You have this bastard down to a science, it’s a beauty to watch
Yea science bitch!
this would be ok if he didn't have an UNREACTABLE claw swipe attack.
what move is unreactable?
everything he does it pretty telegraphed
@@WiggleMan1234 This was a joke, in reference to Joseph Naderson's Maliketh rant.
@@WiggleMan1234it was a joke in reference to something Joseph Anderson said in his video way back when
@@entroponetics oh ok
The attack is misleading people dodge the claw marks because they think thats the source of damage and then get caught by the blast. Its a pretty bad telegraph. Every fucking streamer I watch does this
Man that you are just on another level with these runs! Congratulations and GG on finally winning it by your terms! Looking forward to the rest!
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO! Huge congrats Loopie god it had to have been hell... I wasn't able to see the streams unfortunately, but based on your reaction and some of my personal experience with Mohg on low rl (not rl1+0 - rl 36+6) DAMN have I felt the sweet sweet victory!
It is goddamn *insane* that you managed to never step into these bloodflames, and just the smoothness of it all... no words, you are a beast!
Thanks Kettle, hope you're doing well ❤
@@loopine I've been well, thank you :> I hope ye have been such too!
What a well deserved pop off
And here, MohgLester2022 was finally put down.
Had real bruh mohgment
I had enough of the Devil’s lettuce in my system to be considered on another planet and still mustered up just enough awareness to type “BANGER” at the end. Because it was.
I am studying this video to learn how to dodge Mohg's attacks. Been stuck with this boss for days lol hope I can beat him soon
Same here! Watching this and Saint Riot’s Mohg video. These guys operate in the Matrix realm.
@@GMan-ou9ht finally did it with bleed build 😭
@@captainlcm Nice! 👊
@@GMan-ou9ht You got this Tarnished! 👊
Does this thumbnail mean that Chris Hansen was the Zwei Guy all along !?
Also Mohg was in a role-playing chat room. Miquela and him were just role-playing dude.🤷♂
I'm just here to give Miquella a ride man
Yeah beating mohg with an unupgraded zweihander at rl1 is pretty cool.
But when's the feeble king
"In defense of elden ring boss design" reaction video?
Honestly probably just gonna do a livestream react to it tonight if I get Godfrey and then package it into a UA-cam video if it's worth it. I still haven't seen it yet.
@@loopine can you post it on UA-cam as well? If you could
@@happypotato3985 I'm gonna do a speedrun response for main channel and post the livestream reaction to the main channel
The end gave me so much anxiety. Nice victory, great video.
just another video proving not just joseph wrong but also proving himself quite the chad
awsome as always
Its funny how Andy never figured out the claw swipe doesnt damage you but the explosion after does and its timed SOMEHOW PERFECTLY to catch a reaction roll. Almost like the devs know how most people play these games and (made bosses around the player characters moveset. Almost like they're both in the same plain of existence)
that blood shower punish is pretty sick
Let's go, Lupine. Grats
😤😤😤
I'm hoping to hear some Opeth as a background music. That would fit the insanity of Fromsoft combat.
Mogh is just a George RR Martin esque concept: not a grey character like most, just pure evil to a grotesque degree. It makes it more satisfying when you destroy that fcker. But yeah, it isn't undodgeable or unreasonable, it's very slow and predictable.
I just gotta know the playlist you have here because on god i need it for the boss fight
The playlist of songs I used in the video or you mean my spotify playlist widget in the corner?
@LupineOs the songs in the video! But I mean also the Spotify playlist would be dope, you clearly have my kind of taste in music. But the playlist would be amazing for a boss fight I'm doing for my dnd game
@@professionalhimbo for DnD on spotify there is a playlist called Dnd ambient and another Called Curse of Strahd Battle Music that I use. On my stream widgets there is a link to my spotify for that and for my hard rock playlist.
In this video the songs are Raining Blood by Slayer, Maul from Made in Abyss, and Rasetsu aka Theme of Kage from Hunter x Hunter 2011. The other two tracks on is from Darktide and the other is some Lava/Bowser song from a recent mario game. I'd have to check the names when I get home.
@LupineOs you're an absolute legend mate, thank you! This boss fight is gonna be a banger! And yeah I have a few ambient playlists I use with music bots- over half the party doesn't have Spotify premium, and I'd feel bad if they had get it
The thumbnail is perfect haha
3 more remembrance bosses to go!
Godfrey going down tonight 😤😤😤💪💪💪💪💪
Good god, sir. This guy still is a pain for me after multiple playthroughs at level 150.
trying to get back to the DLC for NG+, trying out a (much) less OP build. Smashed the entire base game but I've been malding at Mohg for some reason. This vid is really great for learning the fight, and what strats are gonna work. grats on a great hitless kill.
RAINING BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD. ok so anyway really amazing gameplay am really excited to get to him in my rl1.
GG bro I wish I was there when it happened.
So whats the final verdict, harder than Godskin Duo or not?
Tough call but for me with the playstyle I went for, doing hitless Mohg was harder than doing Godskin Duo not hitless
Me: beat Mohg hitless with +0 katanas and antspur rapier after 5 days in hell
Chad +0 Zwei enjoyer: kills Mohg with an heavy weapon, no status, performing talismans swap and making me discover brand new counter for his moves
Very clean job man! GL for Malenia
I will need it haha
I MISSED IT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
congrats tho man :)
At least you weren't like Sleep who dipped out at the very start of the attempt lol
@@loopine if this was last sunday i think i was in there till about 5pm western
Edit: Nihil has been tested without upgraded flasks, that complaint is false.
I understand enjoying the feeling of Nihil, and i do too to an extent, but mandatory damage to beat a boss just never feels good to me unless the game is built with it in mind. I don't mind the damage aura on Smelter Demon, because lifegems counter it perfectly, but I do mind Nihil because, if you were to level Vigor and not acquire flask upgrades, then Nihil flatly denies you the right to fight Mohg phase 2. I am aware that that is a very specific situation that no one would ever fall into... Oh wait. I did. It literally happened to me when i took a character i used for a casual speedrun to fight him, and because I ignored the flasks for time, Nihil literally denied me the right to fight Mohg. I had to go out and acquire seeds to power chug Nihil, which definitely runs counter to the idea that any player can defeat any boss at any time if they are simply good at the game.
I dunno man, mohg is pretty late game and Nihil only takes 3 flasks. Typically i get about 6 or 7 flasks before even doing godrick in alot of runs. It sucks you encountered that but i still feel like it had the desired effect of making the player feel like they are outmatched in power level. Making you feel something is what art is all about, whether it's awe or dread. If what you feel is frustration then there's no shame in doing other things like leveling up on other bosses and finding more flasks. Encountering a brick wall of skill and stats and forcing you to explore more to level up and improve your skill are what open world and metroidvanias are all about
on a 60 vigor character, nihil would do around 760 hp to you 3 times (~40%), dealing a total of around ~2,300 damage. a +0 flask will heal 250 hp. so with 1900 hp you will be able to survive nihil even with +0 flasks at 60 vigor.
What im trying to say is this is flat out not true at all lmao
@@loopine make no mistake, I absolutely love Mohg, and believe he is in a fourway tie for best endgame boss with Placidusax, Godfrey, and Maliketh (none of those even come close to Morgott tho), but my belief is that in a Soulslike, any player, at any time, can defeat any boss, regardless of build, gear, or exploration. My first playthrough of Dark Souls on the Switch, my first souls experience ever, saw me fight O&S on medium roll with a lightning spear. I went for Super Ornstein. He is resistant to lightning, had a moveset no other boss in the game prior or after until the DLC could match in complexity, and was after a difficult 2v1. I was chipping away at him using only my skill, as my weapon definitely wasn't doing me favors, my flasks were limited and my health couldn't take much abuse. And in spite of all of that, it only took 16 attempts. Even with limited flasks, a bad weapon, and medium roll, they were still possible for me to beat, as was every other boss in the game. THAT is what I mean. I didn't need to leave and explore, or power level, or boost my healing, I just had to git gud (I can't believe I'm saying that un-ironically). Mohg, again, is a great boss, but it definitely is possible to not be "geared enough" to fight him in a franchise where gear is, in every other scenario, a margin of error.
@@aly3392 3 flasks of 250 vs 3 hits of 760. Idk man
@@aly3392 aight, I'm going to go and test
We owe mohg an apology 😭
Ong
Hypnotizing
My cheeks were clenched the entire time
This aged well
Sick
homeboy got mohgged.
Amohgus
@@loopine mohghgers
Hey have you done One of these for malenia? I want to see it
Still getting around to it
this is entirely unrelated to the video but what are your thoughts on monster hunter
Idk never played. My impression is that it looks fun and cool but I worry that I will get bored of the grind and long boss fights
Does swapping to the crit talisman make up for the extra Heavy Attack you can’t do before the crit?
No clue.... hmmmmm
Wtf was that at 7:50??? You can jump over the explosion? Is it positioning dependent or can you just do it in front of him? I always thought the explosion came out as a bubble, but maybe I'll check it's hitbox on cheat engine because that's really cool.
Fun fact there's actually a third jump dodge you can do against him. The second hit of his overhead spin combo can be jumped over (more like jumped through). It looks super weird. Only works if you're close enough to touch his belly button. It's the one he does at 1:55
Also you can just strafe the vertical jump attack in P2. The one 4:14. Just get close to him and circle him when he flies up. The hitbox is super generous.
Yea you can strafe the charge as well if you are close.
Yea the jump on the p2 explosion finisher is consistent and easy if you unlock and kind of drift around. Most consistent way I've found is rolling forward and right to get to his side and the jumping in a bit of an arc towards his back.