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Dear Chris. This race is practically decided. The fact that a small country and its 2 representatives Pogačar and Roglič are at the top of all three major races is also a unique phenomenon in today's global world. Cheers to all the competitors and to you Chris for your overall contribution to the popularization of cycling.
The country has absolutely nothing to do with it. These are two exceptional athletes with the proper development and team history and support.
The Soler-ism is one of the most consistent elements in cycling. I do like his aggression. He goes for it.
his style of racing is absolutely stupid - if he would use his brain now and then he could have achieved so much more
@@fiddleronthebike You could kinda say the same for Alaphilippe, but hey he is a 2x world champ
Yes he does. And always entertains. 🤪🦋👊❤️
Aggression + Knucklehead = Aggrelhead? ; Knucklresion? either way it is entertaining.
And throws away they kom from going to hard eary in the stage. Solerism...that's all it can be put down to
Farewell to rider formerly known as the king of breakaway: Thomas De Gendt. None of his wins came easy but I enjoyed all of them ever since I saw him climbing through the snowbanks of Stelvio to what he was able to pull off in Naples 2 years ago.
Naples was a good one. 👊🦋💪
The 2024 Vuelta hasn’t disappointed. Thanks Chris! It was fun to hear you call this one.
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Gotta agree with that,!!!!!
Best and most exciting race of the year. Great parkour...no boring stages. Back and forth racing everyday
Yes, indeed. Chaos every day, no boring stages at all. The hardest and the most entertaining GT this year!
Your summary/analysis of races this year has been fantastic. Really appreciate your knowledge & insights. Love the still shots and arrows. Much better than watching a 'highlights' replay. Also, no one explains sprints like you do. Thank you for your hard work. (You too, Garrett!!!)
The sprints are so fun to tear apart. They take a bit time when we get the crazy ones from the TdF for example because so much is happening in such a short amount of time but very interesting figuring out who did what to who and when. 😱🤔🦋👊👍
Thanks champ. I hope Ragla gets the job done and also wins the TT
As pro cycling gets more and more formulaic you gotta love soler stirring the pot
I do 👊🤪🦋💪❤️
We've come to really enjoy the Vuelta. It's unlike the other 2. Crazy racing, anything could happen. Love it. Then we get to see Chris break down the madness. Awesome! Thanks Chris!
Had trouble finding Roglic, then realized he was in the red.😅
Good for Eddie Dunbar, happy to see him take the stage. And damn what a stage.
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Roglic will be the champion, deal with it already.
Robbie McEwen has become the only commentator I really enjoy. His remark about parked cars on the mountain, (some really brave parking there too), was great. Sharp as a tack!
Yeah, he’s great: he appreciates the places they race through
I wish I got max for the Vuelta viewing. I need to get the British credit card going so I can follow Robbie more often. 👊🦋
@@ChrisHornerCycling have you tried Tiz cycling Livestream? I use it while sitting outside, on a tablet.
Maybe u should have your ears checked...my absolute worst😷
Along with Robbie, Adam Blythe is entertaining and not afraid to stick his neck out on some predictions. If Dan Lloyd was part of the rotation, I would GLADLY say _sayonara_ to that ponce Carlton Kirby & Rob _'Look! There's a squirrel'_ Hatch.
Good job on the show Chris You 2 Garrett 🎉🎉🎉
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Yes great work. Thanks Chris and team
9th made the top 10
The Solerism did well helping Jay win the Dots. I think he went solo a little too early on the 5th(?) climb. The itt tomorrow MIGHT make changes in gc.
Chris & Garrett, thank you for all the work.
Solerism is always putting on a show. 👊🦋
Another great mtn stage. I'm bummed this is the last big stage race of the year. The world's in a couple of weeks. After tomorrow my legs finally get a 2 day rest after 21 days straight..Great analysis as always Chris.
Slayer. Got some back to back to back training all month. Enjoy the rest 👊🦋💪
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What a great vuelta. Roglic was by far the best and it was good to see the best Enric Mas again. We are going to miss the cycling big time
Not the biggest Roglic fan, but I have to admit when he is good he is great. In reality he should have 5 of these titles and he proved it this time around. Riding with a team he doesn’t really know… and he’s still on top at 35. Very impressive.
When you said Lipowitz blew at the start of the final climb yesterday, to me, it looked like a genius, purposeful, tactical move. He carefully moved up easily while Bora set tempo and slotted in between Roglic and Mas rather than ahead of his team leader. Then he let a tiny gap open up and then dropped out to the left, causing a sudden, unexpected larger gap. The others didn't have the strength to fight to jump across to the other Bora guys continuing to accelerate. Lipowitz finished in tenth only 1:23 behind Roglic (who beat his own 2020 record on the same climb by a minute). And today he finished in seventh. He wasn't blown at the start of yesterday's final climb. He surprised the top 5 guys with a sudden gap he created as his teammates were punching it. Am I wrong?
Have you ever seen that kind of thinking from Lipo yet? He was a knucklehead in Romandie and here in stage six when Ben was attacking and Lipo had his hand in the cookie jar during every attack made I. That break just about. And never hurried to take his hand out of his pockets. I will believe that yesterday happened on purpose when I see more of that from Lipo. At this moment I see it as Lipo started to far back. Went into the red to get to his teammates wheels and got lucky Carapaz moved up at the same time and then blew up at the same time. Pure luck is the way that I saw it. But I will not go so far as to say it wasn’t impossible that he planned and give him a 1% chance. 🤪😂🦋👊
@@ChrisHornerCyclingso you are saying there was a chance… 😂
My thoughts EXACTLY, You're not wrong!
Red Bull had a choice at dinner between steak and fish. Primoz had the lasagna. 🦋🛋️✈️
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O'Connor fought hard, as usual~and Felix Gall finally came through for him! Good to see, better late than never~😏
If Soler had pulled the Vine group along the opponents of Vine would be getting a free ride. By "attacking" Soler is forcing the other breakaway companions of the Vine group to contribute. I think.
It looked to me that most if not all were working in that break. But either way there’s no one riders speed that can keep Ineos and QS at bay. Ok maybe Soler is hoping the peloton all sit up and then Jay cold have something extra in the legs left but Jay has yet to climb good all month and crashed yesterday. Difficult to say how much work Jay was having to do covering attacks from behind. Any time the pace changes a lot it hurts the legs. No one in the group seemed very interested in KOM points either. So I just don’t see a good tactic in Soler’s plan unless the group was much closer to the finish. 🤔🦋👍
WTF was UAE doing with the KOM. Lead changed. 4 or 5 times on that stage. Was awesome seeing Vine holding onto the bunch And getting his 2 points on the second last climb, to grab the KOM back. It was a race inside a race, inside a race. Best tour of the year. Thanks for the coverage.
Vine claimed afterward that Soler was working for him. But coming up to the penultimate climb, Soler and Vine were tied on points. Since Soler had won an HC climb (his victory at Lagos de Covadonga), he would take the polka dots unless Vine actually scored points. That's how you help a teammate? Anyway, Vine came over 4th and scored 2 points to break the tie.
What a strange race for UAE today. But fun to watch. 🤪😂🦋😮
Brandon McNulty placed 135th yesterday and 113th today. If Primoz Roglic is a little off tomorrow I can see McNulty being a potential stage winner.
It took me a second, but I have your point.
Yep 👊🦋
He will fight with kung for tomorrow’s tt stage
Considering his crash he did great. Pity he doesn't get cut lose more often. He'd be a great addition to bora
Great show n great race Chris!!
Hat tip to the Vuelta organizers for this year's route. I don't know the stats, but I think of the 2024 Grand Tours, this is by far the most climbs.
Yep. It was. 👊🦋⛰️
65000meters of climbing or something like that 😅
Yes10,000 metres more than this years TdF, which had 52,000 metres of elevation gain
So much better to watch than the TDF. Closer racing and much more interesting.
👍 You made that fun to watch! I was wondering if Solar & Alaphillipe study the same strategy book?
Exactly. 📖🤪🦋👊
Bravo Dunbar, this year smaller budget teams did well! Vamos OConnor for the second place!
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we have become so used to Pogacars style of just attacking like crazy , that it seems Primoz isn't as dominant as he has been in this Vuelta , he has controlled things ( apart from allowing O' Conner to get 5 minutes on him early on, but were they worried about that really?) and raced intelligently to go into the final TT with a 2 minute lead without any real stress. At no point did it feel like he wasn't going to win the Vuelta.
Yeah Kudos to them. Still knuckleheads but yea.
Don't rule out there was some kind of agreement between Red Bull and A2GR DS like if you give us the jersey + some time for Ben to stand a chance for the final podium, we will do all the work(with pleasure) at the front, day by day .
Love your commentaries, Chris!
Forget the illness factor....Can you imagine if Primoz makes a mistake and Roglicks(tm) into a barrier and then O'Connor does ok in his TT? cats and dogs.
It’s very possible 🐈⬛🐕😱🦋🍀
The Hail Mary theme as you called it sure helped my understand what was going on in today's stage 20. Thanks, Chris!
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It seemed like Soler went solo because the rider with he and Vine was just trying to sit on and let them do all the pace. So when he went solo Vine didn’t have to do the pacing anymore
The group was working from what I saw. Ok hard to see if all ten were with the camera changes but the gap was 5min and most had time on the front before Soler went all out in every one. 🤔🦋👊
@@ChrisHornerCycling it was after he, Vine and another cyclist broke away from the group.
I would pay to listen to you Chris as you call a race live while muting Peacock commentators! Live streaming! Come on!!
Are Bob and Christian not on the Peacock broadcast? That’s a real shame if so. Their commentary is always high quality - funny, entertaining and informative. They usually know what’s going on in the field with each attack. Much better than the Giro commentators.
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I forgot Ineos were in the race 😆
Does Ineos have anything to show for this other than one rider wearing the white jersey for a few days?
Poor Carlos. 🥲🦋
@@ZBicyclist not much
I’ve learned so much from your commentary of this years Vuelta, cheers Chris.
Other than Dunbar, I was impressed with how BOC was able to remain in touch with his GC rivals so that he remained 2nd on the podium. All to play for in tomorrow's ITT.
How? The podium places won't change.
Great commenting throughout Chris Horner. Thanks for dragging us casual fans asking the route😁
Glad you’re there to tell us what’s going on. I was wondering about the KOM between Marc Soler and Jay Vine. I’ll bet Primos Roglic doesn’t have any roommates tonight, maybe a separate hotel?
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Thank you
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They gave Soler a break and didn't bring the electronic dog collar.
Gotta let the big dog run occasionally;)
Thanks, Chris & Co.
Come on Chris, you can say it now. It's been the most exciting race of the year
After 18 Stages, Ben O'Connor looks so strange without the Red Jersey!
Best of luck tomorrow, my friend. Go AweStralia, Go!
Took a few tries for me to even see him.
Shouldered red for 13 lucky stages. Until Friday...
Hehehe. Agreed. I seriously couldn’t find him. 😂🦋👊👻
I think Primoz gifted today’s stage to Dunbar
Maybe. Maybe primoz isn’t feeling a 100% either. We all know primoz finds a way to lose fitness during a GT. 🤔🦋👊
@@ChrisHornerCyclingAgain with Roglic isn't at 100%?!😃 Every time he just arrives with the GC riders he is weak? I think that winning the stage wasn't a top priority for him( +already 3 stages in the bag, no need to be greedy)
@@margaritastoyanova9253Exactly, Roglic is always sick, suffering or something else every time he doesn’t go up the road to gain 1 minute on every other riders. At the end of the day, he just manages his effort which is smart for a 35 yo rider
He was looking toward the time trial.
He told that himself, between the lines. He was asked if he didn't had the legs for wining? He smiled and said that Dunbar deserved this win..
There is no knucklehead title for the Solerism. He’s an enigma with an agenda us viewers could never comprehend 😂
Gonna miss you Chris!
Chris, i think Vine and Soler just wanted to make sure that no-one else took the KOM points~right? If so, mission accomplished!😅😅
Solerism is like the Shadow. Only Solerism knows. 🕶
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Jay Vine said it was decided that he would help Soler for his stage win - and Soler will help him win the KIN jersey. I think Soler deserved the KOM more!!
When a rider like WVA abandons in week 3 whilst wearing the points and mountain jerseys, does it diminish the jerseys for the other riders who ultimately win them? I mean, points was more or less a lock while mountain would have been a stretch when WVA abandon. Just curious how professional riders regard a situation like this.
I wonder if there have been situations where someone who abandoned still had the most points at the end of the race..if that was the case, hasn't that person earned the jersey, even if they didn't finish the race...? Would be cool if they did it like this.
Truly I don't think they care.. (they will feel bad for the racer) it's part of racing and sometimes you just have bad luck and sometimes you benefit from it. 🤔
@@sgazzzI disagree.
@sgazzz not cool. they don't finish, they don't win. They do get a DNF, though.
@sgazzz, I posed the same question/thought a while back but at least as goes for a clear answer, I believe the discussion during coverage immediately started to speaking to the new jersey holders... indicating abandoning a grand tour by default comes with loss of any of the main jerseys (still wondering about team jersey)
New pro cycling disease: Saddlemonella
The worse to get 🤪🦋
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John’s in quickly today. 👍👊🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
4th on the Chesterfield
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Do you think that Soler attacked so that Jay Vine could sit on the wheels of the other two riders?
❤Chris, What do you think about the EF strategy that lead to Carapaz to be fourth at 3 minutes? I think Carapaz makes poor decisions.
They ride a bit too hard for my liking. In the TdF they did do well but I don’t think their aggressive riding was the reason it paid off during the TdF. Here in Spain it worked on stage 9 to gain some time back but today they seemed to pay the price for that a bit. Of course crashes didn’t help them when they lost Rui and uran . 🤔🦋👍
TRex Quick Step pulled all day for an 8e place : not sure was a good tactic
O'Connor Deserve it...!
His team certainly does. So why not Ben too. 👊🦋💪
Primoz Roglic is not going to start the TT tomorrow. He is having bad stomach pains. It is unfortunate but, the race must go on. Congrats to Mas, Connor and Carapaz who will likely be on the podium.
Huh
It’s not true
What weed are you using?…lemme have some of those😅
It could happen. 🤢😮🦋😂👍
Primoz has been separated from the team. Too much at steak
@@matthillard9363 at stake...the steak also has salmonella!
Skelmose told Danish tv that he made a mistake not going after them when they attacked. He had fine legs. But he thought that riding conservative as he has done so far would be the answer. But he was wrong.. so he burned some matches and didn't had hi best legs on the last climb..
Given their rather successful year, I bet AG2R wishes they had made the switch from brown bibs A LONG TIME AGO....
Oh connor🥸
_That was just INEOS paying penance for ANOTHER Grant Tour fiasco._
Carlos Rodriguez had about the same chance as Primoz Roglic letting Sepp Kuss take the stage.
Exactly... how will the Roglic curse show itself this year?
It did at the Basque country and the TdF. Hopefully life goes a little easier on Rog here. 😱🦋🤞🍀👊
Landa is having a great effort. Isn’t he the oldest rider in the GC?
Nah. He’s only 34. Roglic has that just beat by a could months and won three stages. Tomas De Gendt is 37. Could be more rides but I stopped looking. 👀 . 🤔🦋👊
Soler was attacking to tire the other guys and make sure his teammate would bring home the KOM jersey. Only logical explanation.
Solerism has similar tactics to what I've seen from Vinokourov. Attack, get caught, get dropped, catch back up, attack, repeat... Huge waste of energy.
Right. That’s why we love him though. 😮🦋🔥😱👍❤️
The Solerism was strong in today's stage
Yep. 💪🦋👍
Cooked himself too early with what was at steak
Kern Pharma putting some pro teams to shame
was confused as all hell by soler's attack when he was off the front with a teammate and a satellite rider. he could have just hung with jay vine and the ag2r rider and jay vine would obviously work with him while the satellite rider would obviously work with the two of them since he doesn't care about kom points or the stage win. was a massive waste of energy but oh well, its the soler-ism i guess.
Agreed. No math in head makes all that energy expenditure worth it. 🤔😱😂🤪🥴🦋😮😂 solerism ❤️👊
since solar power isn't what they promised us it would be they should try soler-power since he always has energy to waste :)
Felix Gall gets my vote as most valuable teammate.
When Tadej and Jonas are there it's a done deal. They will win -- stage, gc, whatever. There's a gap between them and Primos and another gap between Primoz and the others. Wish Evenpoel were here. We'd see where nuimbers 3 and 4 would be.
Yep. 👊🦋💪
No shame in that. People tend to forget that Roglic is almost 35 yo. They way he still ride is beyond impressive. I highly doubt Pogacar and JV will achieve this kind of results in 10 years. That being said I wish we could have a 2019-2020 Roglic riding with these guys
Sorry but there is something odd about the performance of those two, especially Pogi. Someone has to say it. The gap from Roglic to the next best, seems much more believable.
O’Connor, Mas and Carapaz are not slouches. For Promoz to blow them out of the water just wouldn’t make sense. It just doesn’t make sense that one rider can destroy every mountain stage, rip the field apart, and leave the others behind like they were standing still. Not to mention that it’s super boring to watch a competition like that.
@@jasrod2012 I'm agnostic until we see some proof. Doping ruined pro cycling for me despite my love for the sport. If there's an EPO out there and TP and JV are using, I might give up the sport once and for all.
Anything can happen tomorrow, including Roglic crashing!
So O'Connor still has a chance!
@@savagepro9060 stop 🛑
@@thart6103 make me
So you’re saying there’s a chance 🤪🦋👊
@@ChrisHornerCycling YES!
Keep on dreaming boi!😅
Last year? Bad Paella (or maybe year before). This year foul fowl? 🤷♂️😂
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The entire team getting sick the day after taking red? Sick or hung over?
Dirty needles?
Party that size needs to be on Sunday night. 😂🦋👊
how many feet of total climbing was this stage?
They all have 2 only and use both of them mostly ;-(
@@roberthotter7008 haha!!! set myself up for that one.
Knucklehead count: 3
Agreed 👊🦋
What an incredible race. Todag ws a bit of a non event with allll the hype built up around the Queen. At least gaudu took arisk
You have fantastic insights Chris. Please stop using your hands to talk so I can watch your production and not just listen to it
Primoz won dude??!!!!
That’s what it looks like right now. 🤔🦋
Mas doesn't deserve to have any fans
Certainly mas likes to always hold back. 🤔🦋
Why?? I don't understand
Who was sick???
Dani for sure. Vlasov and Gamper also. 🤔🤢🦋
@@ChrisHornerCyclingobviously Nico Denz,
too
Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe must have had contaminated spanish steak for dinner yesterday.
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I want to see O’Connor finish 4th overall..
Hehehe. A little harsh but funny. 🤪😂🦋👊
Woah! 😂
4th
Top ten 👊🦋
Primoz ⛷ Roglic turns the hot Spanish terrain into a snow covered ski course: I Came, I Snow, I Conquered!
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THIRD 🥉🥉🥉
Podium 👊🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
I know people here a fan of Kuss and will tell me he had Covid but 17 minutes down for a defending champion ? Will be tough for people to argue he ‘’ deserved ‘’ it last year. Glad this year we don’t have to sit and watch another popularity contest
Clearly he is not in the shape of 2023 the whole season . Nationality does not matter a lot in cycling.
Take your bike and relax
@@roberthotter7008 wtf nationality has to do with what I said
First 🎉
THart 👊🦋🏆🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
Primoz apply 'phinising' touches 2-morrow.
Hope fully not sick. 🤒 🤞🦋👊
Luckily Primos didn't get Montezuma's Revenge. Team Eneos for a high $$$ team pretty much has had a dismal season. Good to see Ben O hang on to the podium. That's two 🍀 teammates for next seasons tactics.
Tadej is racing North America in Quebec along with a who's who in that race. If I still lived in New England idda driven up to watch that one. 👍🏼🚵🏼💯🇪🇦
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It’s hard to understand how Primoz doesn’t perform better at the Tour de France 🤷🏾♂️
Bad luck 🤔🦋😱🍀
He was on to something before he crashed this year. His top level is not close to the two aliens. One Martian and one in another galaxy 😂
It IS close, in fact , but then hopeless :- D
Palestine flags everywhere. Nice!! Everyone holding par. What a great stage.