Beretta's New 80X Cheetah at the BUG Match (feat. Symtac)
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Back in 1975, Beretta introduced a line of mid-size semiauto pistols. The Model 81 was in .32 ACP (intended for the European market) and the Model 84 was chambered for .380 ACP for Americans. These both used double-stack magazines, and single-stack versions followed a few years later (the 82 and 85). Additional models were also available with a variety of safety and control configurations.
Well, at SHOT Show this year Beretta introduced its reboot of the Cheetah, now called the Model 80X. It now uses an aluminum frame, slim grips, ambi controls that allow carry either cocked-and-locked or decocked, and an optics mounting cut. It is only available in .380, and uses a 13-round magazine. The DA trigger in particular is fantastically good.
I'm joined today by Matt Haught of Symtac Consulting, who has been shooting Model 81 Berettas for a long time, and who is excited to get a chance to try out the new 80X on the clock. Much to his chagrin, I did manage to beat him - but only by a single point. The match was a lot of fun, and it's hard to complain about a pistol that we were able to take 2nd and 3rd place overall with...
Disclosure: Beretta did not pay us for this, but did send the gun for free.
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The 80x does NOT have a three-position safety. The fact that it will stick in the halfway position is actually a problem if you're not aware of how the gun operates. Many users have reported the pistol discharging while in what is described by these guys as "cocked and locked" position. To make the gun safe, you must push all the way to the decock position. Somebody didn't read their manual.
They are talking about the trigger returning to a half way forward position after decocking the pistol, which pushes past the fire position and springs back to the fire position, and the trigger moves forward to half way, instead of fully out in the full double action position..
@@Clutch_Kick187no, they are not, they are talking about that but also about the “3 position safety”, which is a dangerous misconception as the user above commented
The way Matt gives a little shake of his head and say "I love these things" is one of the most heartfelt things I've seen in a while
@@Phycorax 2:00 presumably.
@@Tunkkis 1:48
@@Phycorax 1:45
I love the calm wholesome energy that Matt supplies to any video.
"Glacial!" HA! I will have to try that with my friends!
really glad karl the kook is gone
"I have forgotten the face of my father" on the miss 😂
Love the wholesome competition between Ian and Matt.
My carry gun is a Beretta 81. Matt is right. The light recoil makes accurate shooting a snap. I think shot placement is everything. I carry it it because I'm 10 for ten when shooting it, versus 8 for ten carrying my compact 9mm.
Make 32acp great again
@@smokingcrab2290 A .32 head shot is better than a 9mm miss!
@@peewee102100. Since when is 9mm a hard round to handle ? The argument you just made is the exact argument that the fbi made for 9mm. Why stop at 32acp when you could get even less recoil with a .22lr or better yet a .177 cal Daisy BB gun.
Depending on headshots is not a very good plan either which is why pretty much no reputable defensive firearms trainer would recommend relying on headshots but that’s pretty much what you have to do when carrying something with as little penetrating power as a weapon chambered in .32acp. You can absolutely forget about any form of barrier penetration with the .32acp because a Carhartt jacket is probably enough to slow the 32acp down to a walk.
@@Evergreen1400 Or we could just let people carry what they want without complaining or arguing....
@@jonnyt16. What part of my comment stopped him in any way from carrying what he wants to carry ? It didn’t ! My comment was simply asking for his personal explanation on why he decided that .32acp is the right round for him when there are less recoiling rounds available. I don’t care what anyone else chooses to carry but just like they have the freedom to carry any caliber they want no matter how lethargic it may be I also have the freedom to ask them how they came to that conclusion or decision, they also have the freedom to ignore me or to tell me to Phuck off it’s none of my business but your comment acting like my comment was In anyway stopping him from carrying what he wants is just crazy.
I've had an 84F for years and love it. I can't wait to try out the new version. I have my fingers crossed for an LTT version getting made some day.
I love my pair of 84F pistols. Mail thing to remember is the safety goes in opposite direction from the 92FS--do not get them mixed up if you carry with these.
I love Matt's reference to the Gunslinger. I've loved your channel four years keep up the great work. Thank you sir.
Literally came searching the comments to see if anyone else caught the reference. Thankee sai
We are round, and roll as we do
Even though I haven't even watched it, I recognised the line and smiled a little.
Say thankee
@@stevenbobbybills it's a far better read than watch
"You can, miss fast enough to win." I need that on a T shirt. I always wanted one of those cheetahs in 32.
berettas are the only handgun i've ever fallen in love with, that profile is gorgeous
The open-slide look must be the longest-running visual trademarks in any field - it dates back to the 1920s at least.
I think the older 80 models definitely look better.
And they modernize well with the Vertec grip too. I got the 92X for about 700 last year, and after upgrading the 2 plastic parts to steel and adding better sights it's basically now just an all black M9A3 for 400 bucks less
Bless the Italians for making pretty things.
@@khartog01beautiful objects, beautiful women, beautiful country.
I have a Beretta 84 and an 85, mostly for when I take friends from Mexico, Japan, Thailand, or the Philippines to the range - most of whom have smaller hands. I really like that cocked and locked feature, as that's how I carry. I will have to look at the 80x.
I still have my .380 cheetah, my dad bought it by mistake he thought it was the standard 9mm version, but it's just as good in the hand.
Beretta this year came out with the 80X and the 300 Ultima Patrol shotgun, both really good products if you ask me.
My only issue with the 300 is that if I get a beretta I want it made in Italy
This first run reminded me of The Irishman. Everything Matt stated about his love of the 81bb is all of the reasons a 9mm P239 is my fave. Medium size can just be the perfect dimensions to hit everything you mean to.
God I loved the P239, can't believe I sold mine :(
I've retired my P239 DAK since they were discontinued, especially since magazines are almost impossible to find. However, I still love the butter smooth DA pull on it that feels just like a good revolver. I still take it to the range every so often just because it feels good for plinking.
Man I’d love to have a p239
If they bring it out in 32 ACP it's an instant buy from me
32 ACP is a dying caliber. I think the only gun that is still made in .32 acp is a small pocket pistol from Kel-tec. Even Walthers PPK which was designed for .32 acp now is only offered in .380 and .22lr.
Beretta Tomcat is 32 acp and they just released updated models
@@Gieszkanne .32 isn't dying. It will always have a place in micro-autos because it's available in smaller guns and has less recoil than the mini .380s (which can get pretty nasty).
Off the top of my head, there are at least four .32s on the current market; the Kel-Tec P32, the Seecamp, the Beretta Tomcat, and the NAA Guardian.
There are also over 100 years worth of guns that are already floating out there in the hands of gun owners. Any many of these (like the 1903 Colt), are excellent shooters.
The .32 acp can also be loaded with heavy bullets in the larger steel guns (look up some of the articles written by Ed Harris to find out what it can really do).
Allegheny arms has what you’re looking for
I have both the 81 and the 81BB. They're both really nice pistols.
I also really like my CZ-83.
I may have to take a look at one of these.
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballzAtlantic Firearms still has some 85BB left, Guardia di Finanzia issued and imported by Beretta USA. 380 instead of 32, but ok price and the one I got was in fantastic condition.
I really like my CZ 83 as well. I'm hoping we'd see some threaded barrels, I think it'd be a nice compact suppressor host.
Aww RIP Fry’s Eletronics
Love the Dark Tower gunslinger quote at 5:45.
I notice Matt in the background a lot, neat to see him out in front of the camera this time.
Very cool, didn't know that Beretta was modernizing their old designs! I wonder what other designs are in the pipeline?
I love my 81 in .32acp. If only the ammo wasn't so expensive!
I reload 32acp for mine. Berry's makes cheap 32 round nose bullets, and 32 uses almost no powder because of how anemic the round is. 81's are such a joy to shoot!
The .32acp is a reloader's cartridge. If you reload it yourself, it becomes SUPER cheap because it uses *tiny* amounts of powder and lead. And you don't need to worry about using expensive hollow points because .32acp doesn't go fast enough to reliably expand. Cast lead bullets are cheap and perfectly adequate for .32acp, and they can hit a lot harder than you'd think.
I don't know what it is but I just love a "larger" .380,. Something about them just shoots so nice and I'm sure this thing shoots as sweet as it looks 🙂
We gave an 84B to dad for Christmas one year. Took him out last fall and at 91 he still out shot most of the line...
I bought a Beretta 92SB and an 84(380) while stationed in FRG in '84. Both great shooters and damn accurate. Bowling pins at 40 yards with either. Beautiful blue finish and wood grips. Carried both as and LEO later on. Loved them both.
A correction, Ian. the Beretta 82 is also in .32 ACP, it's the single stack variant as opposed to the double stack. the double stack .380 is the 84, the 85 and 86 are single stack .380, with the 86 having a tip up barrel like the tomcat and bobcat pocket pistols.
I never understood why the .32 double stack has one round less than the .380. Actually it should have 1-2 rounds more.
Thank you , Ian .
🐺
That was a great video Ian. It was impressive to see how enthusiastic you and Matt were about this gun. I wish that it had been around when I bought my only pistol 40 years ago, a single action/double action H&K with a trigger that I couldn't use at all when using it double action, and my hands are pretty strong.
I bought one of the model 81 surplus Italian Cop turn in imports a couple years ago in 32 acp and carry it a lot. Shoots fantastic and plenty of onboard supply.
I'm sure it won't happen, but fingers crossed 🤞🏻 for a 32 acp version in the future.
I would by one.
@@shoosh1313 I'd buy at least two, if they were in 32 acp.
Even if it has one round less like the old version instead of 2 rounds more like it should be.
My first personal gun was an 84 I miss the little heavy bugger, but it went to a good home so I can buy a 92 after I saw Lethal Weapon 😁
Mel Gibson and Bruce Willis are some of the best spokespeople Beretta ever had.
I'm not the only one!
@@danbucko696 Don't forget every John Woo film ever.
@@danbucko696 "Yippee Ky-Yay!!!"
I couldn't afford a Beretta, so I wound up with a Taurus PT-92 instead. LOL
I gotta tell you, this gun is really tempting. There is defensive ammo in .380 that meets FBI standard in gel, and the ability to put accurate fire on target in a hurry outweighs and reservations I might (but don't) have about the caliber.
Hornady Critical Defense?
No way did he quote Roland the Gunslinger. That's some cool dude.
It's apt that you're both shooting a Cheetah because of the way you both cheated on that egg stage. Matt, those eggs were clearly holding onto you, not the other way around. 😂
It bit me on the reload though. I had the handles of the bag hanging off my spare magazine pouch, and it slowed me wayyyyy down making sure I didn't drop the eggs during that reload.
I'm sure you've been informed by now, but the Cheeetah 80X cannot be carried cocked and locked. the middle detent on the safety lever is a false safety and you can see the red dot is still visible. The manual does state this. But like I said, I'm sure by now you have been informed...would just like to see an addendum to this video like Hickock45 did because it is otherwise a great video! thanks! If you have addressed this, I just missed it and apologize!
I can confidently say that I have never picked up a Beretta that I didn't like. Can't wait to get my grubby paws on one of these :)
Berettas been at it for almost 500 years, starting in 1526 making arquebus barrels, they've had a little practice making solid firearms
Fantastic scores both of you guys, incredibly close.
Ian: "I came to this BUG match, but I brought 2 extra guns to make a video." PS, the Cheetah is sold out almost everywhere, so they either didn't make enough or people are going bananas for them.
Love all the BUG match videos, but this was especially great. Fun to watch and cool to see your different styles in action.
84FS are the most sexiest of all Berettas in my opinion. Fits so well in my hands, the trigger guard has an amazing sexy shape, decocker/safety is great and well... i like the trigger as well. Cant wait to see one of them 80X
Ian "can miss fast enough to win" McCollum. There's a name to conjure with.
5:45 That Dark Tower reference, lol
The Fry's Electronics bag... what a blast from the past
"I have forgotten the face of my father"
Matt with the casual Dark Tower reference
I have an original 84 with wood grips. Love that gun. Would be interested to see this new 80x in person one day.
You two guys have chemistry, really loved it!
Thumbs up for the Dark Tower reference.
Matt was a really great addition to the video.
One Dark Tower fan recognizes another.
Well done, Matt!
Got a surplus double-stack .32 Beretta, and the knockoff Taurus .380 was my very first semiauto pistol 🙂
Lot of nice functional upgrades on this version of the cheetah but it's hard to give up the aesthetics and smooth lines of the old 84bb model or the walnut and nickel 84fs
I now really want to take a shotgun course from someone quoting The Dark Tower books. Nice shooting!
Thankee sai!
Bro, long time no see, I've been watching re-runs dating back to 2017
Ive been a big fan of the beretta 92. Something about the open top slide, the controls capacity accuracy reliability. This is cool i like it. I like they went back to the open top concept. That is iconic beretta.
I think the Barretta 80x/Berretta Cheetah, Bersa Thunder/TPR 380 Plus , and Ruger security 380 light rack are the top three 380 acp, Taurus PT 380, and Ruger LCP are the top sliding action 380 acp pistols.
I was not prepared for the surprise dark tower reference lol.
You can not carry it cocked and locked. Only a decocker with optional extra added safety.
First time ever Ian is wearing Irish army camouflage I am so happy 😂
G'wan the lad!
Was not expecting that Dark Tower quote from Matt, fucking perfect. Thankee-sai Matt, may you have long days and pleasant nights!
This does look like a nice little Carry gun on paper. Shot placement being most important.
It's still a straight blow-back with a stiff spring to overcome to pull the slide back and more recoil than necessary with a .380, and it's as big as a 9x19 micro gun.
Casual dark tower reference.
This is a pretty glowing review Ian, does this mean the Laugo has some competition for your favorite match pistol? Or does that depend on how it performs with an optic and in brutality conditions?
It’s an Awesome pistol!! Forza Italia!!❤️💪🏼😍🇮🇹🇺🇸
Not sure if it was mentioned in the comments or maybe i missed it. But you can't carry the 80x cocked and locked. That semi-locked position that is sometimes thought of as locked isn't in fact locked, If you pull the trigger enough or put side pressure on the pull, it will in fact fire. And beretta does include this in their manual. In my experience, the more you shoot it, the less it will in fact stop in that half locked, or safety position. But again, maybe I missed something or am mistaken on what was said at around 3 minutes in.
Fun vid to watch, Ian! I wish the algorithm was more friendly to amazing people like you... May the best future possible come to fruition for you!
You have me hunting down the 380 80x. Ian mentioned the similarly sized CZ 82 which is also double action. In addition, there is also the Browning BDA. If I remember correctly, the BDA almost a copy of the Beretta 82 Cheeta with a closed top slide. I regrett selling my BDA and my CZ 82 was stolen and never recovered : (
Bersa Thunder plus is also double stack .380 even with 15 shot!
My uncle had one of the .32s. It was a nice little pistol back in those days
I really love all these Vertec pattern Beretta pistols. I got a 92X about a year ago and just love the thing to death.
I like Matt even more now that I know he is a fellow .32 fan.
I love Matt's shirt, I wonder if a Holiday Inn is missing some curtains? 😂
That legit made me bust out laughing. Well played.
THE LORD HEADSHOT RETURNS! Glad to see Matt
My man!
I had a Beretta 82bb and that is the only pistol I regret selling
Woah love the dark tower reference!
The cheetah is the only beretta i ever liked. Had one at a range i worked at that was for rent. Rarely cleaned it but it NEVER malfunctioned.
That's why I like blow back pistols like the Beretta 81 and CZ 82. I've never had a malfunction with either.
Love the Dark Tower reference
Now I want one, but in .32 for that European flair
Ian's paddyflage jacket looks really cool. Gun is also ok
Gunslinger reference!
The Steven king quote almost got me I knew I had heard it but it took me a minute to remember where
I have a CZ 82 that has a fantastic DA/SA trigger. but the grips are too thick for me to carry it. If Lok Grips would make some slim grips for it like they do for my Beretta 81, I'd carry it too.
I really like these match shooting you post. Stellar results!
I am really liking this new beretta.
Always enjoy the BUG match videos, Thanks!
Ian winning by one point is hilarious
I love the Dark Tower reference.
I love .32 acp. Does anyone know if they plan on releasing a .32 version? I know I know really unlikely but damn I hope so
I do too. It's a much better caliber than some think. I have a Tomcat and I love it.
32acp gang
Make 32acp great again
@@smokingcrab2290 Isn’t that pretty much what 30SC is?
@@mrb692 I don't think so. Ian and a lot of others compared its recoil to 9mm and low recoil is a big draw for .32 ACP.
Great shooting boys! This was fun. It's not ultimate concealed carry choice but I certainly would not want to be shot by one.
Thanks for sharing. This looks like a great little pistol.
God bless all here.
" I put two rounds through the same hole". That made me bust a gut laughing!
The fact that it's optics cut from the factory is nice, I wonder how much nicer that would be with a mini dot on it.
I've got a surplus 84BB and can't wait to get one of these.
I also bought an 84BB. First pistol I’ve ever shot.
The man who shoots with his hands have forgotten his face of his father
Very impressive presentation 👍
"Gun Jesus".
Coolest nickname in the history of stuff.
Gotta love Matts tactical shirt
Beautiful gun, my next one for sure.
xD 5:40 That random Dark Tower quote in the middle of things
There's that lovely jacket again.
Love the tactical plastic bag
I have an original beretta 84 and it's great. I carry it in a shoulder holster and it's one of my favorite guns
So looking forward to getting one