We Filmed A GIANT MODEL SUBMARINE and the final shots are MIND-BLOWING!
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- Creating and shooting a miniature submarine model all with practical effects for our cinematic special fx sequence; showcasing key filmmaking techniques to film underwater. This is the latest episode in InCamera's cinematic Submarine series (Part 3 of 5), stay tuned for more episodes of this series every other week!
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Hard to believe a paper miniature can look so good. And especially at that size! The weathering was also subtle and top notch. Love this series.
Thanks Daniel, glad you're enjoying the series!
Agreed! I'm amazed at how good a paper model can look on camera.
Me too. It would be good if that model could be used in other projects because its too good to just use once in a dark shot! Well done InCamera crew!
it would be awesome to see something on weathering paper, my understanding of weatheing is that it is usual a quite involved business that would destroy paper
I just found this channel it's awsome. I've always been interested in SFX. I wish this is what I had done for a career instead of being an HVAC mechanic. The sad part is I have so many of the nessacary skills but it's just too late to start over. My advice to kids watching this is to follow your dreams because once you're an adult it's usually to late.
Morgan Freeman did Driving Miss Daisy at 54 years old.
Ridley Scott directed his first feature at 44 years old.
Most of us live hand to mouth in this industry. If you wanna go for it, go for it brother.
Bubbles look great too!
Thanks, Nigel; all done practically of course! The video on how we produced them and all the other water elements is in the next episode!
@@InCameraTV Awesome, looking forward to it!!
@@InCameraTV Looking forward to it!!
I like how the papercraft gives you a bit of that natural warble that feels right for a metal surface. Nicely done!
Thanks for this type content for low budget for filmmaking ❤️
I think this has been my favorite series you guys have done so far
A+ level content. Keep it up! Very inspirational.
Papercraft !!! JP is a genius! Love this series so much! Thank you!
Isn't he just!?
Almost 50k!! You guys deserve so much more, this series is being a delight
Still can't believe the size of the single person sub! Tommy, your a treat!
That was great!!!!.. That scene with the nuke sub passing over the mini sub was awesome!.You should make a movie.
PAPER!?!?!?
🤯
EPIC EPICNESS!!!
Oh yeahhh! JP's a bit of a genius isn't he!?
@@InCameraTV a bit of an understatement! LOL!
Hearing that just BLEW MY MIND and just opened up a WHOLE NEW WORLD of possibilities for me!!!
I hadn't considered paper modeling since a was a kid! (Let's just say I've seen ALL the Star Wars films in theater and leave it at that lol!)
You ALL are GENIUSES!!!
So INCREDIBLY happy that I stumbled upon your channel!!!
Love love love! I love submarines but I love working for InCamera more!
I'm amazed at how big that model is. It's so difficult to judge size without a proper reference. But that's part of the magic.
Wonderfull model. Thats some serious papercrafting
Thank you!
Great work lads. That sound design ain't too shabby either.
Wow! This series is just mind blowing! Can’t wait for the next one
We break for nobody.. 😆 Nice “Spaceballs” reference!
Another great episode, InCamera Team! Can JP have a rest now?
Never!
Absolutely love these guys - fascinating and highly amusing!
Love the Space Balls reference.
Yessir! We've gone to plaid. (P)
Amazing work guys! How your videos aren’t viewed more is maybe even more mind bugling than the amazing incamera magic you create.
BTW: Since JP’s workload is so high, have you thought about creating multiple JP’s with mirrors? Maybe that way you can make two videos a week.
This is amazing! Nice job guys!
Thank you!
the submarine looks great 👍
Amazing as always Tommy. I hope you've got the sub hung up in the studio somewhere. I could never throw that kind of stuff away.
Thank you, Simon! It's not quite hung up, but we've certainly still got hold of it!
You guys are super talented!
Thank you!
I sea… looks like oceans of fun. Eh geh geh geh geh geh.
Excellent work, I can tell you really enjoy your craft. Looking forward to your future projects.
amazing work guys!
You didn't mention lens, aperture and depth of field here.
For the long pull-back, did you have to pull focus?
Really enjoying this series!
A grade work as always.
Awesome submarine shots! I had NO idea it was a paper model. Well done, guys!!!! I love the use of a computer fan for the propeller. Brilliant! The results are outstanding.
Very nice work, you wouldn't think a 'miniature' would look that good with just smoke and lighting. I'd rate it higher than some of the shots in Red October which look very CGI.
Very Clever
Wow!!! Made from paper! That’s commitment and it looks bloody awesome! The weather is nice and that scale really works a treat. Paper is usually the last thing on my mind and I need to bring it more to the forefront in my mind. I always default to styrene, wood or resins. But this just works as well and especially for a gentle indoor shoot. Ace!!! Love it! And although this is easily done in 3D there’s something about the light here that is just very hard to recreate with atmo in 3D or in compositing. Then again a brilliant Gaffer like Tommy, may have something todo with that.
Cool shot
Incredibly great and inspiring, as always! ^_^
Thank you so much, glad you liked the video!
Another tremendous episode.
Very entertaining and inspiring.
Great stuff!
My Goodness Wow , love from philippines 😱❤
Thank you! ❤
Amazing work!
"We Brake For Nobody": that's GENIUS!
We couldn't resist!
loving this series! you guys deserve much more attention than you are getting :)
Thank you! All comments and likes help us towards that growth so we really appreciate i!
Truly amazing wow
Amazing as always! I love it!
Spectacular work guys. Really wish you'd been around before I gave up making short films back in the early 2000s... Hopefully you'll be inspiring a whole new generation of low-budget and guerilla film makers!
I really love this
This is the same way they did the underwater submarine shots in Hunt for Red October.
You guys did a great job!
Looks just as good, but it cost you less to do.
Thank you!
@@InCameraTV I just call it the way I see it. You did good. Not everyone does.
Just found your channel. Brilliant and so interesting. Thank you. I've submitted also.
Way back in the early days of dry-for-wet underwater scenes, some absolute genius got the brilliant idea of using a fish tank as a foreground miniature. I am really looking forward to next week's episode, to see InCamera's version of this classic effect.
We've been asked loads to do a fish tank episode ever since our first upload as that's how Pete Kuran originally did the The Thing title burn! It was a lot of fun, we're looking forwards to showing you all how we achieved these effects!
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I really hope that extend to cloud tank shots. I always get unreasonably giddy when I watch 70s-90s films and see cloud tank shots. Especially when paired with a nice matte painting. :D
Amazing job, I love you guys !
Thank you!
Absolutely love all your work, it inspires and intrigues me at the same time, I'm blown away with the results you achieve.
Thank you so much, Richard! Glad you're enjoying the episodes!
This is awesome!!
Amazing! )
what a great episode. Loved it all. The model was fantastic.
Thanks, Mike!
Loooking great guys
Thank you!
Top-notch as always. The sound design is really awesome. Do you guys do that as well?
Yep, Tommy loves his sound design!
Fantastic. Had you guys been around when I was teaching high school filmmaking I would have made your videos required watching. May I ask where you found the plans for that great submarine model. I want to try to recreate your work with my grandchildren.
I wish you were my grandpa LOL
Fantastic work guys, nice blend of professional experience and diy cheapness. Just a thought, for the dolly shot maybe add a ton of sand bag weights to the dolly and let momentum help to even out the move. Also did you consider spraying the monofilament black to match the drapes/fog? Not sure if that would be better or worse.
I swear the videos just keep getting better every week? 🔥
Keep up the amazing work!
Thank you so much, Jordan!
I didn’t know about the paper craft stuff. That’s so impressive that JP managed to create a sub just using paper (and a few other bits). As always, great to see the BTS of how things are done. Keep up the great work.
Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed it!
briliant. love your work.
Thank you!
Well that goes to show what can be achieved on a shoestring, great looking submarine and those shots are brilliant, just need a bargain basement motion control rig and you'll be knocking ILM of the top spot, well done lads 👍👌🙏
Hehe, we're working on one as we speak!
@@InCameraTV I can't help but whenever I watch one of your videos I think about how I would approach the shot in 3D (being a 3D artist) and what approach would give good results easier/faster, is more efficient and is more expensive/cheap.
Can you give me an estimate of how much hours you both worked on these shots (all inclusive the model building and post-work).
My rough (and slightly exaggerated) estimate for recreating these shots in 3D would be 2 work-days a 8 hours, assuming I would have to build the submarine from scratch rather than downloading and pimping an already existing 3D model. One day for the model creation, one day for creating the shots, rendering and doing post.
I am curious, did you had to put more time/effort in or is it roughly in the same ballpark?
I think creating the practical model and painting it might be a slower process than the digital equivalent, while shooting the actual scenes is as fast if not faster than doing it in 3D and waiting for the renderings to finish.
What assholes gave this a thumbs down? This is brilliant work! Who couldn't resist a giant black phallus coming at you?? LOL
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Can't believe this is a miniature. Especially since it's so big ;)
Excellent stuff again!
Thanks, Kyle!
When they were making the Lord of the Rings movies, some of the guys at Weta coined the term "bigature" for their huge miniatures :)
This is great
Very cool
that big sub coming out if the green .. talking an inspiration form the intro to "Das Boot"?
I still haven't watched it! JP mentioned it a lot though! (T)
@@InCameraTV highly recomended
awesome dude
"We brake for nobody" - I love that.
of course we had to get a Space Balls reference in!
I just watched "Attack of the Hollywood Clichés" and realized the intro and credit song reminded me of the In Camera tune intro song.
Great channel
The creative and resourcefulness inspire me. I retire in few years and want to be involved in this business somehow. I’m not very artistic but I’m very good with tools if given direction. What the best way to connect with others in my area doing this type of work?
I had no idea it was paper -- are there any other model types available in paper? Does it work well against green screen?
This all looks very cool. Can you do underwater firing, like torpedoes or missiles, and make that look just as convincing?
I'm asking for a friend
Would love to try torpedoes in the future. When they did them for Crimson Tide they actually shot underwater charges in an Olympic swimming pool, looked amazing!
@@InCameraTV The only reason I ask is that I have a script set in 1941 that requires a German UBoat to take out a Brazilian passenger ship heading to New York. I've been chatting with a bloke in South Africa who does impressive work with models and CGI. Trying to find the most cost effect but convincing production method
lovely
WOW!
Sounds like you enjoyed the episode, Brett!
better than the sub work on Vigil.
Absolutely amazing.
Also, isn't this kinda the same method as what ILM used for the sub scenes of Hunt for Red October?
Yep!
Hi - great job. Sorry if I missed this info but - since you didn't use bluescreen, did you paint the filament line black to not show up or did the fog simply cause the lines not to be seen ?
Even supplemented with vfx around it, that model of a sub looks so much scarier than if it were CG. If you duplicated all the weathering and textures and lighting in CG, it just wouldn't compare to seeing it interacting with real light. There's something indescribable about it being a miniature that just feels more intense.
I like the entro sound. what made it?
Idk how much JP get's paid, but it's not enough. That man is a human swiss army knife.
That's an excellent description!
Have you guys ever considered using a fishing reel for tracking your camera?
It seems to me that it would give you very steady speed control.
We've got a motion control rig now thankfully! It just shows how long ago this was all shot haha!
@@InCameraTV 👍
Good shout. We did something similar in our clouds episode! (T)
I’m curious if you’re planning on attempting multi axis movement at some point. I feel that a simple pulley on the string or a look at a wider mount for the wires. This could allow you to have the sub roll in shot and it shouldn’t cost anything but time. As long as a line doesn’t break.
Do subs "Roll" ?
We're working on a multi axis model mover as we speak. But the ideal (and repeatable) method to mount a model is to use a fixed arm rather than wires. This was our 'quick and dirty' version ;)
@@NikoCreates they did in Hunt for the Red October.
@@InCameraTV I’m excited to see what you guys come up with!
@@InCameraTV While watching this i was thinking, couldn't you use a pulley and some weight attached to the camera rig so that you can use gravity as a driving force for the camera movement? I can imagine that this would create a very smooth and consistent pull that might be more smooth than operating it by hand.
Just an (maybe stupid) idea. Its not like your end result has choppy movements, but maybe you are tired of doing it all by hand.
"The Hunt for the Dead October"
These shots could be seamlessly cut into "The Hunt for Red October"
Thank you! Big influence on this. (P)
Actually,
For better underwater realistic effect shot....do this 👇...
1. Cut a piece of green plastic sheet ( transparent ) and place close infront of camera lense.
2. Avoid the smoke effect once you have the green color plastic placed on camera lense. The green plastic itself automatically blur the entire scene with similarity as photography in ocean depth.
2. Record a reflected water ripple effect , blurry it and color contrast editing it. Use a small mini projector to replay the water ripple effect files and project it from above high distance onto a section of where the miniature subs heading towards. It will give a dramatic scene as the miniature sub is really maneuverable under water ( without the need of large water aquarium tank !! )
For deeper underwater effect, the reflection of water ripple effect not too sharp visibility due it is only for near above water surface scene. For deep underwater water ripple shadow effect must be very blurry and soft dark effect reflection.
3. All background areas need to be painted with deep blue color cloth and greenish layer of tone spray painted going above to replicate deep sea color effect than use the soft lighting with color gel film tone filter ( blue at bottom and green gel at above : paste on the light sources or use the color bulb 💡 - green and blue to create the underwater lighting environment ).
4. Adding a rock hill underwater made of styrofoam painted deep blue and deep dark grey tone to enhance undersea scenery .
5. The miniature submarine need to be placed on a special cheap welded steel frame dolly stand with opening section at rear propeller to hold the submarine ( rather than hanging with visible wire ): this scene only for from the sub front nose till near end before propeller rotating scene. And an opening section at the sub front section to hold the whole sub for scene from middle sub body till rear propeller rotating blade... ( Two takes for one scene OR still could utilize the visible wire technic if the shot made from below of a passing by sub from above the camera angle...
Anyway your video is a BASIC low cost budget near to realistic (50% jurisdiction comment ) underwater effect though it still can be improvise as what I had mentioned here 👆....
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👆This is a basic idea only made by youtubers. The best water ripple effect reflection is made this :
1. Make a 4' x 2' ft transparent acrylic walled with a 4" acrylic to keep the water. Put a little greenish dyes and gel mix with the water. Miniature water movement required a slower water wave due to scales size. Gel mix water will make the water ripple waves move less fast OR it can be edited by slowing the replay water effect scene.
Follow water wave nature movement for realistic videography. Use fans ( one or more : control wind blow volume speed, wind move at only one angle direction ). Blow the water with wind made from fan at 45° degree blowing angle , adjust the wind blow direction till you get the best water waves as close as possible. It is necessary to use 2,3 or more fans to create wind blow from different angle direction too , just to REPLICATE the real nature of water waves effect made by the natural wind blows on the open sea areas. Avoid using motor propeller blade for creating miniature waves bcoz it is only for making rough waves effect and only suitable in a large water tank ( 20ft x 10ft tank size ).
The best distance is 4ft between the 2'x4' x 4" transparent acrylic water tank to floor surface. Place either blue or green sheet on the floor to view the reflection of water ripple effect made by the wind blow of fans... It required a patience till you get the desired water ripple reflection effect. After video recording it than can apply to be projected on the miniature submarine top part.
Believe me, it works GREAT and you will never REGRET of doing it. Hope to see in your next coming video for me to give you the best STARS.
YOUR fans , just me...SPFX Guy...😁
( An old man in SPFX filmaking industry 👌🏻)
Doing that for short depths would make since. But in this case this is supposed to be the deep dark bottom of the ocean so I don’t think that would make since
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well spotted!
Where are you guys from? I wanna colab with you guys so bad! I've been taking a hiatus from movie making to build up my prop shop in my garage and now that it's full of building materials I've been itching to make something fun like this.
We’re from Bristol in the UK!
Brilliant work, guys. Sub looks amazing. But I have to admit that watching you attempt to get the proper lightening triggered me a bit. How many hours have I spent trying to achieve the right lighting? So many freakin’ hours. 😬Looking forward to the next vid!🤘
Really cool, but I feel like a bit more work on the sound design could have really helped sell the enormity of the main sub shot.
Brilliant video. Liked and subscribed. I actually came here to find out more about to create the interior of a submarine. Can you share how you did that? For example, the shots at 8:17. Did you build this set entirely from scratch, or were you able to use existing submarines?
There's an episode in this series where Tommy shows you exactly how he built and shot the interior scenes. Enjoy!
@@InCameraTV Found it. Perfect, thank you.
What f-stop did you film at?
imagine what these people could do with mini spaceships
oh just you wait...
What did you do to remove the light stands in post?
Post episide is up next!
uuh, i just left a comment that I thought would be helpful, went to edit because I made a typo, and it failed, refreshed the page and the comment is gone... was this UA-cam being borked or do you have some kind of policy about mentioning other similar channels? 😅
edit: love the Bottom clip on one of the monitors, excellent taste lol. Anyway, in case the comment was deleted for the latter, I'll just say my tip; in absence of a more proper motion control system, you can use an elastic band or similar as an interface between your own movement and the camera, to help smooth out variations in speed
Haha no we don't delete comments. Maybe if they're really offensive!
@@InCameraTV oh okay good, you didn’t seem like the types lol, I guess just UA-cam doing UA-cam things. Well, I originally said, I learned this technique many years back from IndyMogul, I assume they’re still around, will have to look later