⭐️Choosing the Right Subwoofer _(Z Reviews)_ Home Theater 105
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- Опубліковано 20 лют 2019
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Basic / Cheap 10" Subs [Small rooms and Basic Music]
Micca MS10 --------------------- [amzn.to/2GWvxQK]
Klipsch R10swi ----------------- [amzn.to/2V9W2pp]
Dayton Sub1000 --------------- [amzn.to/2NkVIS3]
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Basic / Cheap 12" Subs [Normal Rooms and Bass Head Music]
Micca MS12 --------------------- [amzn.to/2GRTV5U]
Dayton Sub1200 --------------- [amzn.to/2Vcz2q0]
Bic F12 ------------------------------ [amzn.to/2NhLqC8]
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Advanced / Costly 12" Subs [Normal to Large Rooms Music/Movies]
SVS PB2000 --------------------- [amzn.to/2V8B9Lj]
Monolith 12 ---------------------- [amzn.to/2tuPoyi]
Martin Logan Dynamo ------ [amzn.to/2V9Y2Or]
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No Limit Subwoofers 13"+ [Rooms where the Boom-Boom Happen]
SVS Ultra 16" --------------------- [amzn.to/2VbIx8N]
Rythmik FV15Hp ---------------- [www.rythmikaudio.com/FV15HP.html]
SVS Cylinder 13.5" ------------- [amzn.to/2ElGk5h]
PSA P1811 -------------------------[www.powersoundaudio.com/produ...]
DefTech Supercube 6k --------[amzn.to/2ItI68f]
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I love how you are using the 700 dollar speakers as stands 😂
Review your neighbors, I'm looking for some new ones.
Z talks about the standing wave. Having 2 subs not to have more bass but to smooth out the interaction between transverse and longitudinal standing waves. Good job, Z man.
The go to everything audio guy. My favorite channel by far.
I love this channel. Also one of the very few youtubers who actually remember to put links in the description lol
**makes a very informative video with a lot of good advice**
"I hope you were not too bored..."
Thank you! I’m just realizing what quality sound/music is. I’ve always had questions about subs and distortion. Now it makes sense. I’ve joined your Patreon. 👍🏼
Wonderful refresher after forgetting everything since the last time I considered getting a subwoofer.
The story of Chewbacca always puts tears in my eyes
Ahhh finally a HT 'gyan' video. Liking it by just reading the title.
Monoprice monolith subs are awsome. Thanks for the great info Zeos!👍
Thanks! I just built a Valve Amplifier this summer and I bought Stereo Speakers. I found that it was missing bass. I needed a powered Sub-woofer to get a deeper full sound so your vids are very helpful. THANK YOU!
Loved the John Pinette ( I Say Nay Nay ). 😀
Thanks for the info Z, and your sub sounds great bro.
I have dual SVS SB3000 s. New design came out in November. 800 RMS 2500 peak. 13 inch sealed. Super on music. I don't think they really give up much at all to the PB 3000 for movies. I have an average to bigger living room. I have the smaller version of the OHM speakers, the Micro Walsh Talls crossed over at 100, using the Outlaw Rr2160 receiver. IMHO sounds great.
JBL also makes a 10" sub that is designed to go with the 305's. It's very good, comes with a built-in crossover. Intended for studio monitor use rather than home theater, but still.
No Z! Not the red arrow thumbnails!
YES.. FEEL THE RED ARROW FLOW THROUGH YOU!
Its just to see if anyone noticed.
That's the point. Right in the beginning. I had a subwoofer. And i changed about 10 rooms before i got it to work like i wanted. And now every subwoofer works fine in that room. It's 32 feet by 19 feet. 10 meters by 6 meters. Yes it's big, it's my house's attic, yes i go there to listen to music, it's freezing in the winter, it's extremely hot in summer, but it SOUNDS GREAT. And that's what makes the bass go WOW. Below 35Hz, no resonatatin, no bass bumps, no nothing. In my small rooms, nothing, i mean nothing worked. Even a 5000$ speakers made bass bumps at some frequencies. The bigger the room, the better the sound.
2 properly placed subs (measure to verify) help a lot with evening out the response and make the bass tighter.
also sealed for music and separate eq/distance setting for each of them.
My Dayton reference 8" sub filled my 2100 sqft room with tons of bass with the Klipsch rp600m. When I got Klipsch rp280f I no longer needed it. But I have considered adding a Dayton 15" to get the lowest bass or an svs pb2000. I moved the 8" to my bedroom with my Elac ub5 my favorite music system.
Great Video, lots of good info for those who haven't been sub crazy for years already :) My 3 PSA 15's agree with everything you said. If you are a bass nut like myself the Upper end Denon / Marantz receivers can tune 2 subs independently with Audyssey xt32. I think there are a few others now as well. SVS subs have a tuning app that seems pretty cool as well on their upper end units.
THUNDERBOX
That is what she calls them. Now you do too.
Princess Paastah thunderbox roll out
@@ZReviews Yes, Z. In Texas, the bigger the better.
In Australia Thunderbox means something else...
@@theenhancer a saucy shella ..
Excellent, thank You !
Z quote: the sound wants what the sound wants... Amen brothers and sisters!
Elac Debut 2 Sub 3010 is an excellent 10" powered sub. Sounds amazing for both music and movies.
Actually Zeos, technically, they do have acoustic and room modeling programs that really help a lot to show you what the sound will be like in a room and even from a specific listening position.
Don't ever stop, Zeos. Please lol.
Great review Z
Damn bra u are an EXPERT at explaining this stuff
Sub woofer buying advice please.
Room size. 15x20. Add a vaulted ceiling to that which brings the total cubic feet to about 3,500.
Only for movie watching at a average volume level. Wife will keep me from anything on the louder side of things haha.
Thanks for your videos they have been really helpful!
hey zeus that's real nice this idea to place the subwoofer in the place you'd be sitted, andd it works just fine, but if you notice, the best places you selected are exactly where the first room modes are most easily excited, the corners of the room. When you say that there are no software capable of calculating room acoustics, that's not really acurate, the state of the art in room acoustic simulators even let you walk arround the room and listen as if you were really there, that's kinda what I do for a living
Glad to be here
It would sell some JBL’s
Can’t wait for your RockVille review of the studio monitors.
I have a pair of 15” tops that I have pounded for over and they still rock.
People hate this brand.
Thanks Z
Perfect. I don't need to go any further than 3:40 as a basshead =D The PB1000 is doing the business in my 11 x 6 x 8 (L x W x H) ft box room though I was worried at first that it would be "too big" :)
Seriously I gotta get your patron after this
IM PUTTING AN 8" SUB IN MY BATHROOM
"no one really knows how sound works" LOL
awesome wall.
I have a 11 ft by 13 ft room with 8 subwoofers ranging from 8 to 10-12 inch my fav are svs but tuned to be completely even not boomy
FYI yess I will be planning to get a bigger room
I desagree. I have an 8 inch sub (B&W 608) and it nicely complements my monitor speakers in music (my living room is about 31.000 square inches)
Subwoofer Crawl is an interesting concept. Sounds a bit like phase cancellation and bass absorption would possibly be happening.
I would use jurassic park or days of thunder to test out a system, those movies do sound VERY well
Good stuff. I’ve always been a fan of HSU subs. For the price I don’t think they can be beat.
And Is it just me or does Z sound a little buzzed in this 1am video? Scotchy scotch scotch. 🍻
the lowest frequencies may have nothing to do with music but everything to do with reality. that is the sound of the rooms and establishment of space. notice that the spatiality of a given recording increases greatly with the addition of subs that extend to the 14Hz range (the Rythmiks). once the microphone is opened and before the first note of music, you can hear the recording space.
...hifitommy
How did you not get into sealed vs ported???
for a small office with two closed closets and a weird room crefice what sub should i get. and i have some cheap acustic dampening???
Where is the link for the theater seats? Room is looking too plush and lounge-esque these days lol! Enjoy!
SVS PB1000 or 2000 with Kef R Series in a large room with a high ceiling and concrete floors?
Hey Z, which would you recommend between the SVS PB-1000 or Elac Debut 2.0 3030 for 70% movies 30% music for a 18x11x8 room?
that hairball outro tho lol
Are those the new Elac Carina & the Klipsch RP160? Oh boy!
What do y'all recommend to clean dog piss off of subwoofer grills? Dish soap & water?
Vinegar
Are the boxes stacked in the corner next to your sub, used for sound absorption? 😎😎😎
Review the red home theater seats...
Speakers, ofcourse matter because if you have some tiny 4 inch speakers, they cant keep up with like a pb 1k or other 300+ watt rms subs. Another thing that you said, about the sub size is also controversial. Because a high quality 18 will beat any 10 inch. Because a high quality subs have high xmax, good sensitivity and large cone area. 1 18 inch subwoofer that does 20 mm of xmax will produce the same spl as 5 18 inches that travel 2 mm xmax.
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hey @Z Reviews really like your stuff and i wanted to ask if you could review the new tin t3´s
Filmed it tonight. Patrons get it tomorrow.
Have you tried placing subs as near as possible to the listening position, like within an inch of touching the couch, and turning down the gain as a way of isolating the bass from the neighbors? Might make a good "something to try" video.
Nice vid, but sweeter seats. Where did you get then from I need some new ones.
yay a long video
Z big fan, I watched your picking a sub video today and found it entertaining.
Just wondering if you have heard of the JBL STX 828 Sp? It’s seems like you have some pull in the audio world.
Can you see if JBL can send you one of these for a review?
People will watch including me!
I have one and it’s breath taking
What would you say about the JBL LSR310s for a small home office with a desktop setup with LSR305s on adjustable desktop stands? Thanks!
As someone that owns that particular setup for his desk I say go for it.
I know about the sub crawl but what if you have a side ported box? Would you have to have the port face a certain way when doing the crawl?
dylan Behr productions No, the driver needs to be facing forward
Do you have any experience with rel subs? Their Ti line is highly regarded and they are relatively small. Though they recommend stereo pairs of these for rooms up to 400 sqft. I'm just curious
Broke my sonosub...moving it downstairs and dropped it down the stairs. (Bad knee..i know) Solid wood top plate cracked &Woofer Frame actually shifted and VC is LOCKED! My next choice is going to be easy. It's going to be the only Woofer I have left in the basement hahaha
The sound wants what the sound wants. 😏
Any experience with Canton (subs) ? I dont think ive ever heared you talk about them.
Now, review those new Klipsches Zeos...
So, is it possible to connect 2 subwoofers with a splitter to a pair of powered speakers? Eg. edifier 2850 db?
The hands going back and forth, and the head going the opposite way, ....I just about fell out of my chair!!!!!
Great timing for me as I scout for a second sub. Q: do both the subs need to be identical?
Same question I just posted.
Z imagin this, i have a room that is 2.5 times bigger than yours (without the opening) and i have a single pb-1000, i cry. But i'm working on it!
Also you don't shove money into svs , rhythmic or velodyne, if you are a bass head, you build stuff, like the Dayton 18 ultimax or the Stereo Integrity 18 or 24 inch drivers. Or even funk 24.
Was wondering if anyone could give me some advice. My room is 12×15×9. I am going with rythmik based on the review Z did. I cant decide on one fvx15 or 2 lv12f.
I have an m&k vx-7 mkii in my small office, its a throbbing...ahh thumping... sealed 8 incher.
Can u tell me which sub use in my room my room size is length 12.2 and width 12 feet
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I have a dual 6.5" sub and it seems to do the job for my bedroom system. I can't turn it up over 50% without it being too much for my ears. Wouldn't that indicate it's enough sub for my needs?
Did you do a review for those Klipsch?
I always choose the left subwoofer, not te rigt one :) Putting the joke away, I use 8" or 9" subs Currently using a Dali of 9", but the room is not that big.
What're your thoughts on the JBL LSR310s?
I have the JBL LSR310 s that I used for Home Theater application only. For music listening, it's not my cup of tea. It's loud but it's response kind of floppy and slow to me. Even for Home Theater application, it does not reach down to 20 Hz but since I use only JBL lsr306 MkII for my application so I can live with it. Compromise, my friend.
What about break in? Is that a thing that matters? Should you re-crawl after 10-20 hours?
Review the Rythmik F18. Please.
I have one and it's end game in my opinion.
Send it to him so he can review it. Z can do amazing things- But I'm pretty sure he can't pull Rythmik F-18 Subwoofers out of his butt for reviews. Yet.
I have a two questions,
1. What constitutes as a small/normal/big room?
my room is
6' 11" H
13' D
10' 1" W
or
2.01m H
3.96m D
3.01m W
this is a bedroom, so there's a queen size bed and all of that stuff taking up space as well
my siting position is against the wall on the short side, so my speakers are firing into the long side of the room.
I'm looking for a sub that can handle whatever my speakers can't handle in a 2.1 setup on my desk, mostly gaming, anime, and youtube videos, with a little bit of music thrown in (classic rock/hard rock/metal/Payday 2 Soundtrack) , currently have Micca MB42X powered by a JVC RX-5000V getting signal from my ODAC/O2 amp.
2nd question.
I'm new to the community, so my question is this: I power my miccas with the JVC listed above, I can find specs on it but I don't know what I'm looking at quite yet, should I be upgrading my amp? I'd like something smaller anyway.
3rd question.
my listening volumes most of the time are very low, if I were to upgrade my speakers, which ones would work well at low volumes?
With the fact that I have a small room, it is still sooooo damn hard trying to consider what kind of subwoofer I want to use. I just want to have a tight and controlled sounding low end for my music but not overpowering, but I'm so indecisive over what I should choose when a poor man like me doesn't have a budget very far over 300$ and my desk speakers them selves only cost 360$ all together. Whether or not I should go for a sealed or a ported enclosure, what I want in my bass response at least on the current amount of research I've done leads me to believe I should go for a sealed enclosure however I worry that I wont be able to find one that does fairly good below 40hz without spending outrageous amounts of money, most of that may very well be me just being scared of wasting money on something that turns out to be total dog shit. Just like when I listen to music through my akg headphones I want to be able to hear that sweet sweet tight extreme low end but I do not care at all for it to be very loud, just audible enough to be satisfying to listen to. My vanatoo t0's do very well with the upper bass especially for their size they do great in my small room but they do of course leave a lot to desire in the extreme low end without a dedicated subwoofer. Maybe I still just haven't done enough research...even with all of your suggestions in the description i still find myself so indecisive. Maybe I really do have to suck it up and break the bank if I want something that performs well, I'm just still not nearly as well versed with speakers and subwoofers as I am with headphones.
PB-1000? Well, it's 500$ though but it's the best subwoofer you'll get for 500 - 600 $ and below... It's fucking loud, but fast and accurate because of the 10" driver. It also goes down to like 16 - 17 Hz... Well if your room is really small, then you'll have problems with good output below 30 Hz. I feel you doe, I was also scared of being disappointed. Went from an 8" sealed subwoofer, fuuuuck the difference was unbelievable.
MC Eiht - Hood took me under / NWA - Straight outta compton = sub-bass ( 20Hz - 60Hz ) > bass ( 60Hz - 250Hz )
Z big fan, I watched your picking the right subwoofer video today and found it very enjoyable.
I was wondering if you have heard of the JBL SRX 828SP sub? I was in Guitar Center checking out a RCF line array speaker and the playing the RCF and then he kicked on the JBL sub and I was sold on the spot. I didn’t buy the RCF’s for 3K a piece but I did buy the JBL.
I have the same sub, love it for music. But when you get near limit, the distortion is 🤮🤮🤮🤮
Hey, Here is a list of my Home Theater System:
Sony AV Receiver STR-DH770
Tower Speakers Cerwin-Vega VE-15
Center speaker Cerwin-Vega CV0903882
Sub-Woofer JBL PB-10 bottom firing
Question, Is my current receiver good enough for my speakers?
Do I need to change my current subwoofer?
What is your recommendation for a sub for a room that is 9 meters in length, 5 in width, and 4.3m in height. The purpose is to play video games, sports, and some casual movies
What would you recommend for a gaming rig with Sennheiser open ears? I want to feel the boom booms
JB0007inu
Don’t get a subwoofer with headphones. Get a bass-shaker under your seat
review the FBT X Sub 18SA. it's a 18" 1200w RMS with DSP professional Subwoofer
Legit advice on crawling tho.
105db hearing loss 10ft x 11ft x 6 ft room what do you think i need
Damn... You released this vid way to late. I now have 2 HSU ULS-15 MK2 in a 14x11x8 room.
Loveブラ nothing wrong with hsu! I feel their v subs are more versatile anyways
@@proz71ful19 lol yeah they are awesome. I'll pretty much never need to worry about bass ever again.
I also have 2 HSU ULS-15 MK2. And I love them.
Do you experience port chuff at all? I’m in a 18x11 room and worry about the chuff
Proz71 Ful They are sealed subs so you don’t have to worry about chuffing.
My question is, for movies, can you get two different but similar subs, and use them as a functional pair. Specifically, there's a killer deal for the SVS PB-2000 (non-pro) right now for Black Friday. I've already ordered it, and am quite excite!, but...I could only pick up one, and they aren't going to be available again until next BF (they're only producing them now for BF sales, that's it.) I understand the Pro version are a worthy improvement. Can I reasonably get a Pro later as my second, or do they really just HAVE to be an exact matching pair?
If so, I'll look to take advantage of the 1-yr swap window, and upgrade the non-pro to a Pro when I'm ready to buy the second. If it's not that big of a deal though, I can save some money and logistics hassle.
I see new movie seats 👍
Also what's with the huge pile of boxes in the corners?
The boxes are probably garage sale items being prepared for the beginning of the month.
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This is such a fuckinggreat video !
My subwoofer sets behind the tv on the carpet, if I raise the subwoofer up 2 to 3 feet would it sound better?
as a crazy basshead, i'm feeling slighted.
j/k.
.. still need those subsonics tho.
Well, the room also does a lot of things to your speakers, but it's usually the objects _inside_ the room, which you can "tune" to some extent to get optimal sound. The sub has more to do with the walls themselves, which you can't change usually, so that's why "the room picks your sub".
Something like "the room picks your sub, and your speakers pick your interior decorations". :P
well, mine is a cheap, down-firing, ported 8" sub in a 11' x 22' living room and it's enough
2 subs for music. Yes! Yes! YES!!!