@@aneesh797 First time? You press the accelerator pedal and pull the paddle at 6.5 k rpm while driving in a straight line. Forgive me but where is the HARD part in those 3 easy tasks?
So why even bother to race with an engine that isn’t broken in? Hundreds of thousands of viewers and a chance to prove your car and he’s driving like he is on a Sunday picnic run.
Love how the Sonata driver is out for a Sunday drive and is still walking that WRX at the end, Subaru have really dropped the ball on the WRX this year
You put the wrx on a dirt road and we will see who the embarrassing car would be .. the WRX is not made to do that the WRX is a rally car so it's made for the dirt that's why it's all wheel drive .. Its like putting a boxer in a MMA ring he will get demolished.. Or MMA fighter in a boxing ring he will get demolished
@@finddavid7 Lol go watch what has to be done to make a stock WRX actually rally ready. All that "rally" mumbo jumbo is just there for a "yeah but" when they get rolled by Granny Smith on her way to get groceries in her Sonata.
Wtf is the Sonata driver doing...Its not even all the way to the floor based on the rpms at 7:50 it shifts at 4k and then again...dude is obviously letting off
@@robertduklus6555 Nope, not programming. I have one. If you have it on the floor, it shifts almost at redline in auto mode... Put it in sport+ even without launch control is much quicker than we see here...
@@christianclark736 he loses every race in the sonata. Meanwhile owners are pulling away from the same car in the real world. Bummer because i like these guys
@@SamCarLegion Sam in order to properly engage launch control on the Sonata you need to floor the accelerator all the way to the floor, if you do half throttle or don’t give it maximum throttle it will say “launch control conditions not met”, you need to find drivers who understands the cars they drive to give a more optimal result
@@robertduklus6555 it’s a 8 Speed “wet” DCT that is also used in the Elantra N & all N models so how can it be the transmission, the transmission itself is lightning quick, you’re telling me this guy can’t properly shift an automatic
Also they were also making amongst many many limited editions and JDM STI cars things like the Prodrive P1 22B, RB320, WR1 and the absolute killer CS Cosworth 400. The WRX is just a shadow of what Subaru once was.
@@steve8803 Still slower than the 4th gen LGT the VA/VB chassis is based on. And that got its best quarter and standing mile times with the 5 speed auto.
I can't figure out the Sonata. I own the identical car and I'm thinking he let off the gas to get those short shifts. He's not touching the paddles. So if you done want to drag race fully, then why race at all. My car has never shifted that way and no way he sounds be smoked by that golf. Race some myself and only sometimes use launch control and way better than that
@@Beastnappy what are you talking about, you can literally see the shift at like 4500 rpm, and you can see the sonata is not launching properly. And they were dead even in the roll race. Even if the GTI can “blow it out of the weeds,” you definitely can’t tell that from this video lol
I kept waiting for the Sonata to wake up, then I realized it was the driver who was asleep the entire time. I expect the driver to do their homework on a proper launch if they're making an appearance on a drag race.
Same here, don’t use the launch control, put it in sport+, turn on brake hold so you don’t have to move your foot from brake to throttle, give it about 1/4 throttle then roll the pedal to the floor over the next 1/2 second
Subaru no longer has a performance car in their lineup. I remember the days when people would fear having to race a Subie from a dig. Now it is just a sad shell of what the brand used to be. I say this as a former WRX owner, sad that they have not bothered to improve performance over the last 15 years. Hyundai on the other hand actually has my respect. The current GTI is also an amazing machine.
Bottom line dude its not worth bothering with anymore, real fast is electric, street cars doing 3sec runs, they cant spend the money on this kind of sh%t anymore, its a dying thing.
The Sonata driver was way short shifting. He wasn't paddle shifting so it's almost like he didn't have his foot to the floor at any point during this. Except for maybe the last high-speed roll race.
@@youcangetsum6871 it is but just barely. Car and driver tested them through the quarter mile and the sonata is 0.1s faster trapping 1 MPH more. Once you tune both however the GTI pulls ahead, mod for mod.
I am sorry but the Sonata driver ruined this video. It's a good comparison between GTI and WRX, but short shifting Sonata at 4.5k means it's result is irrelevant
Short shifting the living crap out of that sonata. As someone who drove a N-line and my wife and I own a K5 GT. Those things are very quick and that should not be the result. Swap the driver out. Those things pull like crazy.
There's always some kind of mishap with the N cars on this channel. Happened with the type R vs the EN. And now this. I own a EN and my wife has the K5 GT. There's always "something".
@@Buck3366 Yeah. When you have an auto and especially a dct all you have to do is make sure you master the launch. Let the dot damn transmission do the rest!
Why wasn't the sonata using launch control and shifting early? My sonata N rips my head back w/ launch control also shifts at redline when the pedal is down. This was not fair at all.
A brand that put out amongst many limited edition amazing cars like the 22B and the Cosworth CS 400 and it’s come to that wet lettuce of a WRX and a wheezy 270 bhp and a gearbox fit for a Prius.
It's because they get a rebate back for selling more cars with the eyesight safety tech that only comes with the cvts. They honestly should have just refined the 5EAT and actually went through with the 6EAT and developed a DCT of some kind.
I feel like the wrx is the most dishonest vehicle for sale today. Looks good on paper, but after driving you realize it’s slow and not very well built.
It really is sad. I was thinking of picking one up but seeing how its literally not improving with new generations there isnt anything special about it anymore when other companies also make AWD turbo cars that are faster with better MPG like the mazda 3 turbo. RIP subaru 😭
@@derekh5184 If they dont step up their game and start delivering I think we could see a time they go out of business because everthing that made them special and unique is non existant and other companies are doing it better and cheaper.
Omg that Sonota driver….? Was he smoking something? His driving was atrocious. That Sonata can perform bette than that. Please find another competent driver. He ruined this whole video 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
is the sonata driver losing on purpose? barely on the throttle and shifting way too early, and he eased into the launch, the lack of wheel spin tells everything because they spin the wheels at half throttle
I’ve been waiting for this for SO LONG. The Forte GT and Elantra N-Line get so little coverage on UA-cam despite being serious and blatant competitors to the Civic Si
Why would you use the CVT WRX for this? It’s a full second slower than the manual one.. Considering 80% of WRX buyers buy the manual. You can’t launch a CVT, and it’s embarrassing seeing it not be out in front against FWD cars. That is why no one buys an automatic WRX. A 2022 WRX manual is faster than a 2022 GTI in a 1/4 miles and that’s facts.
Unfortunately, the Sonata driver has never heard of "pedal to the metal", but Sam has, as he was trying to put his foot through the floor on that poor Slowbaru. 1st to 2nd Sonata had it floored then let off the gas and started cruising while "racing".🤷♂️
That Sonata is broken in for sure, 13,000km on it. Looks like the driver didn't turn off the safety off all the way as it should have 2 yellow icons on the dash and then launch control will activate. The car will shift at the redline if foot is firmly planted. In this case his foot couldn't have been all the way down because short shifting was present. That Sonata definitely needs another run with it done correctly.
@@billytaylor1697 Traction control and stability control. You hold the button down for about 5 sec and you'll hear 2 beeps. And have 2 lights on the dash. Press and hold brake hard and then push accelerater down fast. Then you should have launch control activated. Use cruise control +- on the steering wheel to adjust launch control rpm.
CVT transmitions they are so slow be cause they are made for Econime resons , Just race with a manual subaru and looks to the power 💪🏻, and the DCT they are so fast.👌🏻👌🏻
Congratulations to the GTI driver launching. How does Subaru even sell any cars? Terrible performance, terrible fuel economy and terrible interior and reliability hasn’t been great. Wow
@MQB R 85% of wrx's are sold with the 6mt, which does 0-60 in low 5s and quarter mile in high 13s. That is better performance than the 6mt GTI. It is great in the snow and is a bargain price.
@@steve8803 Ok that’s solid performance. Slightly out performers a GTI but still lacking all those other things. I guess for the price can’t complain. Didn’t know it was that cheap damn
You win the car youtube internets with this comment. I thought I was the only one that hates subarus. heavy. slow. horrid mileage. horrid looks. ugly interior. idk
The sonata driver was not flooring it, doing 1/2 throttle, still beat the wrx, and wasn’t too far from, the golf. That sonata was broke in well as well. Sam is busy in the comments defending that owner that he was flooring it when he wasn’t. Sam with your dishonestly, I will consider unsubscribing, because anyone, can see that the sonata wasn’t floored.
Their's no way a stock gti is going to beat a stock sonata n line he definitely was shifting early or he didn't have the car in the proper gear but something was definitely off there
He was shifting early. I own an n line and from a dig i would expect the gti to win because it has a limited slip differential. In this case it also had summer tires vs all seasons on the n line. The sonata should have taken the gti or been neck in neck in the roll races though.
@@Jay-vv3lg taken it for sure I have a VN on a jb4 e30 on map 5 and I am sure as hell not losing to a stock gti my buddy has a sonata n line just muffler delete and resonator delete and he beats me up top
@@JorgeCabrera-zh7yr Muffler delete and resonator delete makes a BIG difference (much less back pressure). The N line is obviously not street legal. So there's that.
@@SJ-km5ly I'm going to have to disagree with you that is just mainly for sound now once he gets a downpipe and tune then maybe it will be beneficial but right now I don't think so
@@tylerhumphries9113 i tried to look too if he used the LC but i couldn't. The 1/4 mile of the GTI is 13.6 sec. The N line 13.9 sec. Something went wrong there.
@@avis1978 13.6 vs 13.9 is a huge difference. The elentra N is 13.3 and it was a huge difference between the GTI yet no one said anything? The KONA N was able to trap 13.3 and the GTI beat it yet no one said anything? SO when the N loses its suddenly a big deal? I did not see you comment on the GTI video saying something isn't right
@@sharktin240 i had no reason to comment on the Elentra N vs GTI because it was obvious that the N will take it. More hp, better sport car overall. If you saw the 3 big races, in all of them the driver in the golf explained what's going on with his golf( wheel spines \ LC and so on). With the sonata N line we have no clue what's going on there. That's why i asked that simple question.
@@avis1978 Youa are making Bias excuses and it won't work with me. You are not deaaling with a dumbazz here. YOU SPECIFICALLY mentioned 13.9 vs 13.6 said it should be half a car and it should not be like this. YET when the ELENTRA N puts 4 busses on the GTI when their TIMING IS 13.6 VS 13.3 You say nothing? EVERYTHING you mentioned has nothing to do with your initial. comment of quartermile timing. BASED ON YOUR OWN LOGIC, THE GTI should have preformed better. Based on your OWN LOGIC. The GTI should have also ruined the sonata the way it did as the DSG in the GTI is way more tuned for power compared to the N. The GTI has better power to weight, the GTI claimed HP is to the wheels etc.
Just bought the GTI myself, I will say the manual isn't as quick lol. It's a riot but no way I could shift fast enough to keep up with the auto. Nice to know I can probably still beat WRXs.
I don’t think the GTI would be near the manual WRX. That CVT box is pitiful and the manual WRX beat the Elantra N from a start last week so the Golf..not so sure.
Surprised with the results. I thought for sure the Sonata would take both of them. Shocked with the GTI acceleration! I thought it was the R instead of the GTI. Good test, always love the variety!
There's no way that GTI pulled that far ahead and that fast. Looks more like a Golf R. A GTI has SIGNIFICANTLY less HP than either of the other cars. Someone was off about this.
It's 400 lbs lighter + a much quicker DSG. The manual GTi is much slower than the DSG, which leads me to believe the hp is correct but the transmission makes a huge difference.
I got out of the SUBARU brand, it's no longer the company it used to be. I ONLY had subaru my whole life, now it's a JOKE. Bought myself a BMW 340i instead, runs around the STi
Absolutely pathetic that the WRX is getting smoked by these other cars. Not to mention they cancelled the STI. Subaru has totally lost its way. Shame on them.
7:50 lmaooo every single person who owns one of these knows this doesn’t happen when flooring it in sport+ at 100kmh… the fact you are even using that clip doesn’t rlly make sense. But… Even when not at full throttle he was still pulling on the gti. I know LC is shit on it, but the sonata properly driven would have demolished both cars in both roll races 100%
Sam I really enjoyed this video since I'm considering getting the wrx. Can you do more auto wrx videos vs the honda accord 2.0 older gti or something similar thanks!
Save yourself the pain and don't get anything with a cvt, if you don't want to learn stick that's fine, but the reliability and lack of performance and efficiency are all massive drawbacks of current gen cvts. If you want a fast automatic awd car get a golf r from 2008 or newer
So is the CVT slower than the 6 speed it seems like it is, the races I've seen it lose to the GTI were alot closer than that maybe because the GTI was a manual too 🤔 I don't know
I want to thank all the racing drivers for their feedback 😎
No problem. If the Sonata driver ever wants me to show him how to pull a paddle shifter actually past 3k rpm I’m your man. Thank you and goodnight.
I don’t really understand the point of these drag races if the drivers aren’t going to give it the full effort. What did we learn here?
Says the dude who put someone in a drag race that doesn’t know how to redline shift a car…
dont forget to mention the 10000HP the GTI had. with two turbo jets
@@sharktin240 with 3 nitro bottles
What is that sonata driver doing? He seems to be shifting way early every shift.
Bro it’s his first time
I mean just floor it!
Those launches were like WTF is going on?
Easy, he’s trying to give the WRX driver a chance 😂
@@aneesh797 First time? You press the accelerator pedal and pull the paddle at 6.5 k rpm while driving in a straight line. Forgive me but where is the HARD part in those 3 easy tasks?
Based on how the sonata driver was shifting, he could've gapped the WRX earlier on all the races, driver doesn't want his car beat up. lol
Looked like he was sandbagging then the in incar cam and yep he was short shifting. New car not broken in yet is my guess.
So why even bother to race with an engine that isn’t broken in? Hundreds of thousands of viewers and a chance to prove your car and he’s driving like he is on a Sunday picnic run.
Yee he was shifting at 4000 to 5000 rpm
These people can't race for dick. They leave the car in auto and just floor it
This was hilarious that sonata guy shifting between 3k and 4k and still gapping the wrx. What a sad day for subaru
Love how the Sonata driver is out for a Sunday drive and is still walking that WRX at the end, Subaru have really dropped the ball on the WRX this year
Sti have 450hp
@@瘰 no more new STI mate, this is the top of the top performance from Subaru, it’s sad really
@@pancakes1983 Sadly
Any year WRX with cvt is slow.
@@pancakes1983 I'm sure the wrx and gti were letting off the gas to line up, you can still see how the sonata was catching up to them.
That Subaru is a total embarrassment. The GTi made the other 2 look like they were in park.
Dumping the clutch is quickest
You put the wrx on a dirt road and we will see who the embarrassing car would be .. the WRX is not made to do that the WRX is a rally car so it's made for the dirt that's why it's all wheel drive .. Its like putting a boxer in a MMA ring he will get demolished.. Or MMA fighter in a boxing ring he will get demolished
@@finddavid7 Maybe so but that isnt where the typical owner drives it.
@@finddavid7 Lol go watch what has to be done to make a stock WRX actually rally ready. All that "rally" mumbo jumbo is just there for a "yeah but" when they get rolled by Granny Smith on her way to get groceries in her Sonata.
@@finddavid7 lmao don't call the wrx a rally car when it's just a quicker version of the Impreza, there all commuter cars doing a irrelevant race lol
Wtf is the Sonata driver doing...Its not even all the way to the floor based on the rpms at 7:50 it shifts at 4k and then again...dude is obviously letting off
would you rev till the redline? Again it could be the tranny programming, max torque falls of past 4 k rpm
@@robertduklus6555 Nope, not programming. I have one. If you have it on the floor, it shifts almost at redline in auto mode... Put it in sport+ even without launch control is much quicker than we see here...
@@robertduklus6555 it’s actually after 5k
@@raymahannah4336 agree I own one
His face expression says it's intentional.
Sonata N line needs a driver mod
Seriously. He loses most races in it while other channels tear up the competition.
@@christianclark736 he loses every race in the sonata. Meanwhile owners are pulling away from the same car in the real world. Bummer because i like these guys
And awd
Whenever was driving the Sonata had the reaction of my 95 year old grandmother
maybe it was the transmission not the driver
Car couldn’t go into launch control, kept kicking him out
@@SamCarLegion he was shifting at 4k rpm's on one shift not a true comparison the sonata is faster than this
@@SamCarLegion Sam in order to properly engage launch control on the Sonata you need to floor the accelerator all the way to the floor, if you do half throttle or don’t give it maximum throttle it will say “launch control conditions not met”, you need to find drivers who understands the cars they drive to give a more optimal result
@@robertduklus6555 it’s a 8 Speed “wet” DCT that is also used in the Elantra N & all N models so how can it be the transmission, the transmission itself is lightning quick, you’re telling me this guy can’t properly shift an automatic
The WRX now is slower than it was 20 years ago.
I bet Ellen drives one.
@Oem J that's because 20 Years ago it didn't have a garbage CVT. With the manual, it is still properly quick.
Uglier Too!!
Also they were also making amongst many many limited editions and JDM STI cars things like the Prodrive P1 22B, RB320, WR1 and the absolute killer CS Cosworth 400. The WRX is just a shadow of what Subaru once was.
@@steve8803 Still slower than the 4th gen LGT the VA/VB chassis is based on. And that got its best quarter and standing mile times with the 5 speed auto.
I can't figure out the Sonata. I own the identical car and I'm thinking he let off the gas to get those short shifts. He's not touching the paddles. So if you done want to drag race fully, then why race at all. My car has never shifted that way and no way he sounds be smoked by that golf. Race some myself and only sometimes use launch control and way better than that
The truth hurts doesn’t it? 🤷♂️😂
@@g_p_3431 yeah, he was short shifting around 4-5k
@@g_p_3431 The truth is, that sonata guy doesn't want his car to beat up the GTI
@@kfx3907 Why are you crying..... We all saw the Gti blast the Sonata into the weeds, stop with all these poor excuses👍😃
@@Beastnappy what are you talking about, you can literally see the shift at like 4500 rpm, and you can see the sonata is not launching properly. And they were dead even in the roll race. Even if the GTI can “blow it out of the weeds,” you definitely can’t tell that from this video lol
I kept waiting for the Sonata to wake up, then I realized it was the driver who was asleep the entire time. I expect the driver to do their homework on a proper launch if they're making an appearance on a drag race.
👍🙋♂️
As a sonata n line owner, the way he’s driving that car infuriates me lol.
my exact thoughts 😂
Totally agree.
Same here, don’t use the launch control, put it in sport+, turn on brake hold so you don’t have to move your foot from brake to throttle, give it about 1/4 throttle then roll the pedal to the floor over the next 1/2 second
What the fuck was he doing
Agree in full.
Subaru no longer has a performance car in their lineup. I remember the days when people would fear having to race a Subie from a dig. Now it is just a sad shell of what the brand used to be. I say this as a former WRX owner, sad that they have not bothered to improve performance over the last 15 years. Hyundai on the other hand actually has my respect. The current GTI is also an amazing machine.
This car with a stick is better and they still have the brz
Bottom line dude its not worth bothering with anymore, real fast is electric, street cars doing 3sec runs, they cant spend the money on this kind of sh%t anymore, its a dying thing.
@@connordunckel8544 no
Agreed
@@tanthaman no what? Lol
The Sonata driver was way short shifting. He wasn't paddle shifting so it's almost like he didn't have his foot to the floor at any point during this. Except for maybe the last high-speed roll race.
the last roll race he cheated as well, had a running start that's why it instantly pulled away from the GTI
No. It’s just slow
@@roboticvenom1935it’s just faster from a roll than a stock gti tbh🤷🏾♂️
@@youcangetsum6871 it is but just barely. Car and driver tested them through the quarter mile and the sonata is 0.1s faster trapping 1 MPH more. Once you tune both however the GTI pulls ahead, mod for mod.
@@roboticvenom1935 that’s debatable they make around the same power mod for mod it just cost less to mod the vw.
I am sorry but the Sonata driver ruined this video. It's a good comparison between GTI and WRX, but short shifting Sonata at 4.5k means it's result is irrelevant
Next race should be the WRX, a Shopping Cart and a Walker with tennis balls.
A shopping cart😭😭
Hyundai driver shifts at 4-5k rpm when the max engine power is at ~6000 ....
He's having a stroke, did you see his face?
It looks like a joke... looks like he's not even racing
based on his shifting he couldve gapped the wrx early on all the races, driver doesnt want his car beat up. lol
@@pss0520 If Thats The Case Then Don’t Bring The Car Lol.
Short shifting the living crap out of that sonata. As someone who drove a N-line and my wife and I own a K5 GT. Those things are very quick and that should not be the result. Swap the driver out. Those things pull like crazy.
I agree 100%, being a Sonata N Line owner aswell, that car is a bullet & this felt way off, check out my comment, I feel something was off
There's always some kind of mishap with the N cars on this channel. Happened with the type R vs the EN. And now this. I own a EN and my wife has the K5 GT. There's always "something".
@@xXKidUniqueXx they just suck
@@xXKidUniqueXx Quite simply… the drivers haven’t got a clue! How can you fuck up a drag race in automatic cars? Answer… this video!!
@@Buck3366 Yeah. When you have an auto and especially a dct all you have to do is make sure you master the launch. Let the dot damn transmission do the rest!
Subaru WRX SPT? Subaru is trolling Subaru enthusiast with that, knowing the STi is dead
:/ Not only is the WRX really slow but it's also incredibly ugly and looks super cheap.
the WRX lost bc it has a CVT while the other 2 cars had DCT……
Not necessarily.
Why wasn't the sonata using launch control and shifting early? My sonata N rips my head back w/ launch control also shifts at redline when the pedal is down. This was not fair at all.
Oh.... poor Subaru. It's like the brand has been castrated more and more as the years progress.
A brand that put out amongst many limited edition amazing cars like the 22B and the Cosworth CS 400 and it’s come to that wet lettuce of a WRX and a wheezy 270 bhp and a gearbox fit for a Prius.
That's Toyota for you. Since they have a stake in the company now, I feel like Subaru has gone a different direction.
It's because they get a rebate back for selling more cars with the eyesight safety tech that only comes with the cvts. They honestly should have just refined the 5EAT and actually went through with the 6EAT and developed a DCT of some kind.
The GTI looks like it’s in a different class. The WRX is the only modern Day car that is slower as an automatic than a manual lol
The GTI Looks Like a Shithole
That's because Subaru makes good manuals and only makes shitty cvts
@@Tachyon836 Good manuals hehe
@@operationgetthugs232 the STi 6 spd is arguably the best 6spd there is
@@Tachyon836 No, the best manual belongs to Honda.
I feel like the wrx is the most dishonest vehicle for sale today. Looks good on paper, but after driving you realize it’s slow and not very well built.
Not to mention they did not change shit and launched as a new car. Subaru got lazy..
It really is sad. I was thinking of picking one up but seeing how its literally not improving with new generations there isnt anything special about it anymore when other companies also make AWD turbo cars that are faster with better MPG like the mazda 3 turbo. RIP subaru 😭
It's legit brutal... Subaru needs to stop making cars
@@derekh5184 If they dont step up their game and start delivering I think we could see a time they go out of business because everthing that made them special and unique is non existant and other companies are doing it better and cheaper.
@@ryanjones7202 The AWD in the Mazda is worse.
Omg that Sonota driver….? Was he smoking something? His driving was atrocious. That Sonata can perform bette than that. Please find another competent driver. He ruined this whole video 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
Not a dis but why do people buy the new WRX? It's ugly, slow, heavy and get's bad MPG.
It looks fine. Definitely should be faster, though.
is the sonata driver losing on purpose? barely on the throttle and shifting way too early, and he eased into the launch, the lack of wheel spin tells everything because they spin the wheels at half throttle
4:30 The shifts there are terrible in the WRX, looks like it's shifting at 4000 RPM? Not even close to redline.
Why is the sonata short shifting...
It’s embarrassing how pathetic Subaru have become they could’ve just put the convent automatic trans but the put the lame cvt .
Man that GTI💨
Please race Hyundai Elantra N-Line, Kia Forte GT, and Honda Civic Si
Fr lol
I’ve been waiting for this for SO LONG. The Forte GT and Elantra N-Line get so little coverage on UA-cam despite being serious and blatant competitors to the Civic Si
More like the Civic Type R, its closer in power. The SI is a 1.5l with 200 hp, not even close in comparison. and its slow
@@tibi1441 the Elantra N Line has less hp than the Si. Forte GT has 200hp as well
@@tibi1441 The Type R has over 300 hp. All those cars mentioned are all in the 200 hp range.
SPT wrx had zero chance of winning, too much drive train loss from the glorified cvt. Would be barely putting down just over 200whp.
How come the Elantra N is so much faster than the Sonata N? Doesn't the Sonata have more Hp and Torque?
The Subaru looks like a cross between a Civic and Crosstrek
keep in mind that the Sonata is just a mere N-Line it isn't a full blooded N
if they had an N version how would that look like ? Maybe 400 HP ?
The way the powertrain is set up on that Hyundai, it doesn’t even look like he’s trying.
He wasn’t. Driver was being soft
The sonata driver 😂 my god man, is shifting at 5k every time!
Short shifting the hell out of the hyundai
Why would you use the CVT WRX for this? It’s a full second slower than the manual one.. Considering 80% of WRX buyers buy the manual. You can’t launch a CVT, and it’s embarrassing seeing it not be out in front against FWD cars. That is why no one buys an automatic WRX. A 2022 WRX manual is faster than a 2022 GTI in a 1/4 miles and that’s facts.
It's not faster. Why are u in denial?
@@operationgetthugs232 Cope. Still ain't touching a GTI with DSG lol
That Hyundai was holding back bigtime! :~))
Was he? You were there? You drove?
@@40nine99 He still gapped the SLOWBARU! :~))
@@arnoldbliss6238 no really?? I didn't see that lol.. still were you there? You drove? And what's a slowbaru? You mean suburu, spell it right
No, it's just slow.
Suburu was holding back
How can a 271 hp WRX lose to 241hp GTi ?
Power to weight ratio🫡
DSG trans, lighter weight. Also the WHP of the WRX is not 271 lol. While VW WHP numbers are accurate or even higher than advertised.
Unfortunately, the Sonata driver has never heard of "pedal to the metal", but Sam has, as he was trying to put his foot through the floor on that poor Slowbaru. 1st to 2nd Sonata had it floored then let off the gas and started cruising while "racing".🤷♂️
each gear its shifting 2K below the redline LOL. and yet it still beat the subie
I don't even get why they let that sonata driver join in the race if he'd be doing that.
Never understand Why Subaru Put cvt in the first place. Whats wrong with dct. And the engine. Its just doesn't give the feeling of been new car.
If your doing reviews with cars that are very similar it's good to have very professional drivers. Really shows the cars ability.
Sonata driver was sandbagging, short shifting the whole time, new car not broken in yet?
That Sonata is broken in for sure, 13,000km on it. Looks like the driver didn't turn off the safety off all the way as it should have 2 yellow icons on the dash and then launch control will activate. The car will shift at the redline if foot is firmly planted. In this case his foot couldn't have been all the way down because short shifting was present. That Sonata definitely needs another run with it done correctly.
What lights? Every time I try launch control it says conditions are not met. The traction control light and what other one?
@@billytaylor1697 Traction control and stability control. You hold the button down for about 5 sec and you'll hear 2 beeps. And have 2 lights on the dash. Press and hold brake hard and then push accelerater down fast. Then you should have launch control activated. Use cruise control +- on the steering wheel to adjust launch control rpm.
I dont think ive seen one race on this channel done nicely lol
Это ещё не R а GTi, golf r по быстрее будет.
Did the N-line driver yse his launch control feature? I know ut will cover a quarter faster than this.
Who’s grandpa is driving the sonata?😂 He’s literally short shifting at 5k rpm🤯
What's with the Hyundai short shift in the fuck out of all gears
If you're scared go to church homie send that fucking thing
CVT transmitions they are so slow be cause they are made for Econime resons , Just race with a manual subaru and looks to the power 💪🏻, and the DCT they are so fast.👌🏻👌🏻
Can we get the MK8 GTI vs MK7 GLI
The golf was always... going to win! but dang! that turbo WRX is hella slow for a turbo. Rather just get naturally aspirated gr 86.
The WRX should be the base model Impreza. Been a Subaru owner my whole life and it's time for a change. DISAPPOINTING
Congratulations to the GTI driver launching. How does Subaru even sell any cars? Terrible performance, terrible fuel economy and terrible interior and reliability hasn’t been great. Wow
@MQB R 85% of wrx's are sold with the 6mt, which does 0-60 in low 5s and quarter mile in high 13s. That is better performance than the 6mt GTI. It is great in the snow and is a bargain price.
What he said ^^^
@@steve8803 Ok that’s solid performance. Slightly out performers a GTI but still lacking all those other things. I guess for the price can’t complain. Didn’t know it was that cheap damn
You win the car youtube internets with this comment. I thought I was the only one that hates subarus. heavy. slow. horrid mileage. horrid looks. ugly interior. idk
@@steve8803 low 5s and high 13s doesn't sound right. Must mean high 5s. Never seen a car do low 5s and go high 13s.
10 seconds in and it’s a cvt wrx. Even Subaru guys don’t like that model
Really wish you did this with true enthusiast cars. We’ve gotta stop promoting these automatic/cvt cars as sports cars
Sam, why is the Sonata changing gears way too early? What’s the point of showing cars racing if Sonata isn’t showing its full potential?
The new WRX is such a joke. Actually, I would say it is only a WRX in name now and nothing more.
The sonata driver was not flooring it, doing 1/2 throttle, still beat the wrx, and wasn’t too far from, the golf. That sonata was broke in well as well. Sam is busy in the comments defending that owner that he was flooring it when he wasn’t. Sam with your dishonestly, I will consider unsubscribing, because anyone, can see that the sonata wasn’t floored.
Love the emotions Sam had after 3rd lost :)
Subaru screwed up that WRX badly.
Can someone else please drive the Sonata, wtf was that 💀
THANK YOU SAM WITH ANOTHER VIDEO. SONATA VS ELANTA N?
That GTI does the 1/4 mile in 13.6 @ 105 mph lol. Fucking ridiculous. That car is making way more power than advertised.
265-270 probably
i think is using tuning box no way ia faster
I heard he has a jetengine under the hood and 6 guys pushing it
@@SamCarLegion It's actually a Golf R, he just swapped the badges.
Dsg gearbox gives it that 1/4 mile time not sandbagged hp numbers.
Nice Impreza turbo, now where is the WRX?
you should match up the dct kona n against these instead of the sonata. still cool to see.
Why tho? They've already raced an Elantra N against the GTI.
true. i guess i just want to see the kona smoke them all.
@@atflores85 i mean they did that already the kona lost well against the gti idk how it would stand against the wrx probably better though
They already raced the Kona Against the GTI, the GTI was faster
Thinking 🤔 about getting the gti to replace my old gti lol 😂
Their's no way a stock gti is going to beat a stock sonata n line he definitely was shifting early or he didn't have the car in the proper gear but something was definitely off there
He was shifting early. I own an n line and from a dig i would expect the gti to win because it has a limited slip differential. In this case it also had summer tires vs all seasons on the n line. The sonata should have taken the gti or been neck in neck in the roll races though.
@@Jay-vv3lg taken it for sure I have a VN on a jb4 e30 on map 5 and I am sure as hell not losing to a stock gti my buddy has a sonata n line just muffler delete and resonator delete and he beats me up top
@@JorgeCabrera-zh7yr Muffler delete and resonator delete makes a BIG difference (much less back pressure). The N line is obviously not street legal. So there's that.
@@SJ-km5ly I'm going to have to disagree with you that is just mainly for sound now once he gets a downpipe and tune then maybe it will be beneficial but right now I don't think so
The WRX and Sti have always been overpriced and slow.
It doesn't look like the sonata used the LC. There is no way the GTI is like 3 sec faster to the 1/4 mile.
cause they rig races. Watch at 7:50 sonata driver is at 1/2 throttle to allow gti to stay close
@@tylerhumphries9113 i tried to look too if he used the LC but i couldn't. The 1/4 mile of the GTI is 13.6 sec. The N line 13.9 sec. Something went wrong there.
@@avis1978 13.6 vs 13.9 is a huge difference. The elentra N is 13.3 and it was a huge difference between the GTI yet no one said anything? The KONA N was able to trap 13.3 and the GTI beat it yet no one said anything? SO when the N loses its suddenly a big deal? I did not see you comment on the GTI video saying something isn't right
@@sharktin240 i had no reason to comment on the Elentra N vs GTI because it was obvious that the N will take it. More hp, better sport car overall. If you saw the 3 big races, in all of them the driver in the golf explained what's going on with his golf( wheel spines \ LC and so on). With the sonata N line we have no clue what's going on there. That's why i asked that simple question.
@@avis1978 Youa are making Bias excuses and it won't work with me. You are not deaaling with a dumbazz here. YOU SPECIFICALLY mentioned 13.9 vs 13.6 said it should be half a car and it should not be like this. YET when the ELENTRA N puts 4 busses on the GTI when their TIMING IS 13.6 VS 13.3 You say nothing? EVERYTHING you mentioned has nothing to do with your initial. comment of quartermile timing. BASED ON YOUR OWN LOGIC, THE GTI should have preformed better. Based on your OWN LOGIC. The GTI should have also ruined the sonata the way it did as the DSG in the GTI is way more tuned for power compared to the N. The GTI has better power to weight, the GTI claimed HP is to the wheels etc.
I'm disappointed in the WRX. Is it due to the CVT?
Sonata driver shift gear at 3000rpm 😂😂😂😂😂
Just bought the GTI myself, I will say the manual isn't as quick lol. It's a riot but no way I could shift fast enough to keep up with the auto. Nice to know I can probably still beat WRXs.
Driver
NO manual is faster than a DCT
That Subaru is an embarrassment
I don’t think the GTI would be near the manual WRX. That CVT box is pitiful and the manual WRX beat the Elantra N from a start last week so the Golf..not so sure.
@@Buck3366 no way a manual WRX would beat a DCT GTI
I have an MK7 GTI DSG with an APR Stage 1 93oct high torque tune and I am terrified of what the new MK8 GTI/R with a tune is gonna look like.
There’s a video of a stage 1 gti doing 100km/h-200km/h in 12 seconds, which is pretty mind-blowing
Surprised with the results. I thought for sure the Sonata would take both of them. Shocked with the GTI acceleration! I thought it was the R instead of the GTI. Good test, always love the variety!
i thought the Subaru was gonna win and the Hyundai was gonna come in last
You would be surprised of what the gti can do it’s a great car
@@mk8gteye683he doesn’t know anything about GTI lol , Golf R will gap them the length of 5 London buses lol
There's no way that GTI pulled that far ahead and that fast. Looks more like a Golf R. A GTI has SIGNIFICANTLY less HP than either of the other cars. Someone was off about this.
Seems like VW's HP is always the wheel HP, while the rest two are axial HP
That, plus superior power to weight ratio
It's the transmission. I haven't driven the MKVII but the MKVII DSG was very quick and that CVT is a joke.
It's 400 lbs lighter + a much quicker DSG. The manual GTi is much slower than the DSG, which leads me to believe the hp is correct but the transmission makes a huge difference.
@@Asiansxsymbol spot on
@@DM72513 Agreed, only the DCT in Elentra N seems as good as the DQ381 (pdk is at an another level)
I got out of the SUBARU brand, it's no longer the company it used to be. I ONLY had subaru my whole life, now it's a JOKE.
Bought myself a BMW 340i instead, runs around the STi
WRX having a CVT is a huge buzz kill.
Nothing wrong with a CVT.
Absolutely pathetic that the WRX is getting smoked by these other cars. Not to mention they cancelled the STI. Subaru has totally lost its way. Shame on them.
Subaru did a great job of updating the WRX's interior....too bad the same cant be said of the exterior.
or drivetrain
7:50 lmaooo every single person who owns one of these knows this doesn’t happen when flooring it in sport+ at 100kmh… the fact you are even using that clip doesn’t rlly make sense.
But…
Even when not at full throttle he was still pulling on the gti.
I know LC is shit on it, but the sonata properly driven would have demolished both cars in both roll races 100%
Sam gripping the steering wheel and rocking back and forth like a red fisher price toy car getting it to go faster...poor wrx. 🤣
Being a VW modified owner, love this video.
The GTI was like ✌🏾
Hyundai improved in everything 🫡 👍
Hyundai and Kia have become what Toyota is supposed to be.
Without the Toyota reliability.
WTF is going on with the sonata driver! He shifts really really bad!
Sam I really enjoyed this video since I'm considering getting the wrx. Can you do more auto wrx videos vs the honda accord 2.0 older gti or something similar thanks!
Save yourself the pain and don't get anything with a cvt, if you don't want to learn stick that's fine, but the reliability and lack of performance and efficiency are all massive drawbacks of current gen cvts. If you want a fast automatic awd car get a golf r from 2008 or newer
Is the GTI stock .. ? I think it's the end of the Subaru WRX myth.
The GTI! Wow
Great video can u start giving the 1/4 times as well please
So is the CVT slower than the 6 speed it seems like it is, the races I've seen it lose to the GTI were alot closer than that maybe because the GTI was a manual too 🤔 I don't know
CVT is a full second plus slower 0-60
And manual gti slower than dct, any car that’s DCt will 95% be faster than manual
@@DylanCarGuy wow huge gap, the way Subaru has been advertising this new CVT i assumed it was faster. The auto options for its competition are quicker
@@ftr911drvr yeah man still a CVt Dual Clutch will always be wayyy faster. They should have done it justice with a decent transmission.
So basically the one thing that we can all take from this is that Subaru is resting on its laurels and the ones mighty has fallen.
Get some fuckin legit drivers AT THE VERY LEAST FOR GODS SAKE NOT SOME drivers holding back afraid of getting to redline
Need to drive it to the max
Schumacher is that you?
@@SamCarLegion it's true Sam that shit was trash
I don't know what's up with WRX, it stopped advancing and add the CVT to that wound.
Sonata need a different driver
GTI for the Win. Interesting is why the Sonata is not getting to redline for its gear shifts?
Sonata would easily walk him if he didn’t short shift