What’s the surprise?!? I was a project designer in an Arch firm by mission Bay in 2008 when the neighborhood was forming and we all knew it will happen!
It is a non issue. Of course you will have differential settlement. And so what? It is a sidewalk. What do you propose? Building the sidewalk on piers?
TRUTH! And if you pay attention to the crosswalks as you approach and walk through FiDi and SOMA, there are plaques embedded in the pavement noting where the original coastline was. It's a bit eerie, actually.
WE had to fix the sidewalks in front of our house...ALL homeowners have to fix the sidewalks in front of their property...although we don't own them...It gets the public works dept off the hook....Isn't that crazy??
SF just loves fucking their tax paying businesses. They won’t protect them from increased theft caused by their progressive ideology and they won’t fix poorly engineered stuff they approved
@@spignetti yep! I remember in the 90s my family rented a cement truck & redid the front of our sidewalk. I thought it was weird then, but I understand now.
This area of SF was filled in with rubble from 1906 earthquake-it used to be part of the tidal estuary. Mayor Willie Brown allowed developers to build here knowing its history full well. Developers ignored the facts in an effort to make big bucks when Dot-com boom was big and everyone insisted on living in SF. Changed the face of a once-proud City.
@@Glidescube Actually, the building is resting on landfill subjected to the vagaries of the tidal marsh environment. Tides do occur in the Bay and the building is just “a-sinking in the tide…” because of location and design. I don’t think there’s a “permanent” fix.
Rachel Gordon of the SF Department of Public Works says the sinking sidewalks are the property owners' responsibility. And how about the sinking streets? Whose responsibility is that?
Was I the only one paying attention in school when my 8th grade science teacher said 30 years from now San Francisco is going to start sliding into the bay.
@@thornil2231 build your foundation on the Rock… Christ Jesus. Seek His✝️ truth prayerfully in all your conduct no matter the worldly cost &/or consequence
I grew up in the Bay Area and it amazes me that San Francisco has allowed so much over building. How many other buildings will fall when Millennium Tower falls? The city is collapsing on itself and its not going to take an earthquake to finish the job.
It may be hard to believe but your property line goes out to the center of the streets. You pay tax on that but the city deems it necessary for public passage rights. IOW, there must be room for public passage allowed by the land owner. It not exactly the same everywhere and all situations but that the gist of it.
It's pretty bizarre. Here in the UK pavement maintenance is part of what we pay our local taxes to maintain along with local roads and injuries or damage caused by poor upkeep are the liability of the local council, every year councils across the country get sued by people tripping on uneven paving slabs or damage to wheels and suspension on cars hitting pot holes and I can't understand why that would be different in the US, I mean don't you pay property taxes plus local income taxes in the States? What the heck are you paying for?
@@darthwiizius we pay taxes so that we can go invade other countries, bomb the hell out of them, and then go back in and occupy/rebuild them for decades….. God forbid they actually use our tax money to repair infrastructure here at home….
@@RandomRandomnessKCMO Well I never realised San Fran council was so active in the World. If you want to get your national infrastructure fixed then go and protest outside Sinema and Manchin's houses and work places, give those 2 corrupt fuckers no peace, treat them like, I dunno, an oil rich middle eastern country or a country south of Mexico.
If it is a person or company's responsibility to repair the sidewalk, and the damage presents a safety risk, owners should start blocking off their portion so they don't get sued. If the government wants to claim that they can't do that, okay, then the government should cover the repairs. Public use equals public responsibility.
You ALL gave up your right to fight city hall when u installed total socialist democracy in your "government". They will decide your fate, THEY know it will be for the "greater good". Take it & shut up.
We have a community pool...cement deck was shifting and cracking very bad in 3 years time. I found guy to do replacement with pavers...he found a cheaper guy who did same old cement 👎👎
The CITY is the one who gave the approval to build on that land. The CITY is the one with the old maps that know for a fact they are building on top of landfill. The CITY is the one who wants to collect the taxes for approving The construction in that area. Then the CITY should be the one to pay for their mistakes If your dog takes a crap in front of your neighbors sidewalk in front of the door is it your neighbors responsibility to pick up your dogs dog CRAP The CITY needs to pick up after their CRAP 💩
Here in Vegas, we (public works) are responsible for the sidewalks. We will fix them at our expense. The business owners already paid for the sidewalks thru their taxes. We have a couple sidewalk crews that jackhammer and replace sidewalks full time. No wonder why so many are moving here. We don't rip people off.
@@joltjolt5060 It's hot: Half of June thru mid-August. Then the temps moderate. At this moment (4:13 pm) it's 78*. Basically two months of dry heat then 10 months of mostly nice weather. Those aren't bad numbers. And you will never have a rusty car ever again. Cars last virtually until you get tired of them.
Those very bad sidewalks are also dangerous for baby strollers and elderly people, as well as those with disabilities. Those disabled people include visually impaired citizens and those who are wheelchair bound. Other disabled people use crutches, walkers, or canes, like my mom uses one.
I was one of the Inspector on these building when they were built. I was curios as to why most ig the underground services were hung on supports and covered in p-gravel. I was told that they expected the ground to sink on the order of 10-20 inches in the next 20 years. So this phenomena is not out of the original building specification, but exactly what was expected.
The property owners are responsible unless they decide to do something on the side walk and then it magically belongs back to them. Blame shifting doesn't solve the problem
We have a neighborhood in Philadelphia called Logan where some city blocks were sinking. The neighborhood was built on a landfill. These were only 2 story homes. The houses eventually were condemned and the city bulldozed about 1 square mile of houses. If the 2 story houses were sinking because it was built on landfill, what you think would happen with 50 story highrises?
😲 " WOW!.... Talk about ' having that sinking feeling ' . It started off with the, seemingly, never-ending Millenium Tower debacle. Now, it's sinking Mission Bay sidewalks. While many are nail biting over the next big Earthquake, San Francisco is literally collapsing under It's own sheer weight. "
So if the sidewalks are private property then why are so many homeless are sleeping on the sidewalks when the property owner/security can tell them to leave?
Dear San Fran, FFS Please stop what you are doing and look to Chicago. Chicago set all the standards for building on landfill and I can assure you that we figured out how to build sidewalks that don't sink and buildings that don't tilt due to subsidence. What ever is going on over there is not ok. Too many too smart people with ideas and not enough practical experience...
Absolutely agree. Damn near everything east of state street is landfill from the chicago fire, solid refuse disposal etc. Massively compacted and mixed with cementitious fill. One thing, as a builder, we have occasionally run into on the near north side (DePaul, Lincoln Park, Sheffield, Wrigleyville etc) is live streams of water below grade in existing basements, some of which required perimeter tiling and permanent ejection. Lake Michigan is no match for any kind of engineering, it can find its' way in.
Bad sub grade means either non compacted sub grade material or bad backfill on subgrade. As the cracks get bigger the rain water will get worse saturating the subgrade. Who ever put the side walks in didn't compact to correct densities.
What you you need to do is go to court and site the civil disability laws. Los Angeles tried the same crap and there was a lawsuit against the city citing the civil disability laws and the Los Angeles lost and now is repairing the sidewalks !!
Here in Vegas, we (public works) build and repair the sidewalks. We don't charge homeowners or businesses. They pay taxes already, we are paid by those taxes. We have special sidewalk crews that tear out and re-pour sidewalks FAST because that's all they do. Yes, I work for public works.
Remember to keep lowering the bar on educational standards in order to curb racism. That way the next breed of architects and engineers can make even bigger mess ups. But don't say anything, because that would be racist. CA logic
Imagine spending $1,000,000+ for a condo in a brand new neighborhood, then the sidewalks start sinking, and the city government (for which you’re paying hundreds of thousands of dollars in property taxes) doesn’t do anything 😂🤣. And then the SAME city residents keep voting for more Democrats!! 🤣🤣
@@TransitAndTeslas Lmao, imagine thinking the only two parties are Democrats and Republicans 😂. Also, it’s all about property rights. If the city owns the sidewalks and roads, then they need to be responsible. If the city wants to sell the roads/sidewalks to the building owners, then the building owners become responsible. Pretty simple, except the corrupt government officials can’t even understand this which is why it’s stuck in limbo. The government wants taxes, but they don’t want to be responsible for fixing the issue.
i'm on the hook for my sidewalks in ohio, too, so i doubt it's just a backwards liberal traitor's 'thought' process, more like it's systemic corruption of government responsibility because it's a pure expense they can force onto the homeowner.
@@manlymcstud8588 very smart answer sometimes ppl get too caught up on the Dem/Rep thing. Both side has good and bad qualities. You’re 100% right tho about the systemic problem
@@jayyoung778 without trying to sound like a moderate, i believe you have to admit to faults of both sides. you also have to do your research, actual research and not just from sources that tell you want you want to hear. that said, right now i can't find a single redeeming quality the liberals have going for them. the old school democrats seem downright conservative by comparison, and it pains me to see the GOP turning into that. well, the one thing that never changes is it's still about money, control, and power. were it in my power to do so, i would require all elected officials right down to write-in candidates for city council to take a psychology test to weed out psychopathic and sociopathic personalities. neither side wants term limits, neither wants to change the laws making it illegal to use the same old methods of wealth-building that would land you and i prison, neither wants stiff mandatory jail time for corruption. both sides seems to make two kinds of laws: 1) those that suits them personally, and 2) those that don't affect them at all.
This is not uncommon around the SF bay area. There are landfill and Bay Mud areas all around the bay margin. Unfortunately, it requires maintenance and special procedures. Almost the entire City of Foster City is on Bay Mud!
Public areas are the government's responsibility to maintain. Private areas are the owner's responsibility to maintain. Sidewalks are part of a city's or state infrastructure. Unless property owners don't pay property tax, the government should fix the sidewalk.
In Hong Kong pedestrian walkways are attached to buildings, and if these buildings are on bedrock, why not attach a raised walkway to replace sidewalk.
It is true that the maintenance of sidewalks is the property owners responsibility. But this problem is geological and is due to poor city planning and poor city development of the Mission Bay area. The streets are also sinking. I guess the politicians will blame the property owners for that as well.
I remember back in the 80s NO one would go to the mission bay and near 3rd street. Now all these RICH tech lived and worked in those areas. good luck to you all. don't worry those people have $$$$$$$$$$$.
I usually say almost the samething when walking in SF. "Wow these are enormous craps of poo. How do these zombies poop so big when their diet consist of Taaka and meth."?
One fix for some areas maybe jacking up part of the low section partway and grinding off the high edge where two slabs come together or join. This is done to deal with driveways sagging. Yes it is a stopgap measure, I know. A hole or holes is or are drilled thru the concrete and either foam or mud is pumped under to raise the slab. Lots of examples on U tube.
& at the Mission Rock development, 8 new giant buildings are in process of being constructed at the very edge of the landfill! Approved after the city was aware of sinking. Mission Bay is a ground liquification zone, so in an earthquake, the streets and sidewalks could just collapse. In a state known for engineering excellence, how are these incredibly dangerous buildings getting approved!?! I lived in the neighborhood and our garage had huge gashes through the concrete in the garage ceiling. The building was only 10 ish years old and having major structural issues.
I saw a mission bay resident get attacked by a crazy person. I was going to step in until he was asking why was this happening. I was born here not going to explain the dynamics. Police showed up but couldn’t help by laughing.
Yes! Sidewalks and roads are the responsibility of a city and its governing body. If you do not charge enough in property taxes to maintain those things properly, then you have an unsustainable management system, and your city is ultimately doomed.
What’s the surprise?!? I was a project designer in an Arch firm by mission Bay in 2008 when the neighborhood was forming and we all knew it will happen!
Let me guess. They didn’t care and push everything forward. For more taxes and fees.
Property buyers did not read the fine print.
It is a non issue. Of course you will have differential settlement. And so what? It is a sidewalk. What do you propose? Building the sidewalk on piers?
Ahhhhhh. But money talks.
I have maps of SF from the 1850’s. You’d be surprised how much is landfill
TRUTH! And if you pay attention to the crosswalks as you approach and walk through FiDi and SOMA, there are plaques embedded in the pavement noting where the original coastline was. It's a bit eerie, actually.
@@FrisbeeGirl Millenium tower is just off the old shoreline
@@mmaranta785 Just off the shoreline on its nearest side. The whole newly named "East Cut" District is a situation overall.
@@FrisbeeGirl True.
Nope! Don't think I'd be surprised at all.
Sidewalk is private property for maintenance and public property for use. Yep, totally makes sense.
This.
Our elected people allowed that to happen.
WE had to fix the sidewalks in front of our house...ALL homeowners have to fix the sidewalks in front of their property...although we don't own them...It gets the public works dept off the hook....Isn't that crazy??
SF just loves fucking their tax paying businesses. They won’t protect them from increased theft caused by their progressive ideology and they won’t fix poorly engineered stuff they approved
@@spignetti yep! I remember in the 90s my family rented a cement truck & redid the front of our sidewalk. I thought it was weird then, but I understand now.
This area of SF was filled in with rubble from 1906 earthquake-it used to be part of the tidal estuary. Mayor Willie Brown allowed developers to build here knowing its history full well. Developers ignored the facts in an effort to make big bucks when Dot-com boom was big and everyone insisted on living in SF. Changed the face of a once-proud City.
Slick Willie
@@jft7174 Willie is not a good name.
@@joltjolt5060 😞 Da Mayor?
The buildings aren't sinking but the sidewalk is
@@Glidescube Actually, the building is resting on landfill subjected to the vagaries of the tidal marsh environment. Tides do occur in the Bay and the building is just “a-sinking in the tide…” because of location and design. I don’t think there’s a “permanent” fix.
Rachel Gordon of the SF Department of Public Works says the sinking sidewalks are the property owners' responsibility.
And how about the sinking streets? Whose responsibility is that?
Tax payers
If homeowner’s responsibility then they may fence off their property.
Block the streets off is the no cost way of handling the cracked streets!
Was I the only one paying attention in school when my 8th grade science teacher said 30 years from now San Francisco is going to start sliding into the bay.
Building your castle on sand, literally.
More like mud.
Destined for destruction.
Steer clear of that neighborhood.
The castle is more having problems... only the motte.
@@thornil2231 build your foundation on the Rock… Christ Jesus.
Seek His✝️ truth prayerfully in all your conduct no matter the worldly cost &/or consequence
It’s sinking because that neighborhood is built on landfill 🤦🏻u don’t need an engineering degree to figure that out smh
Landfill - they built on it anyway and this issue is common close to the Bay waters. CA already has a sinking problem...
It is not the landfill that is making the sidewalks sink, it is really poor engineering.
California and Florida sinking states, sucks for the people who bought houses/properties.
@@tvviewer4500 Both
@@patrisio3 no, its just engineering.
@@theshield1613 California does not have marsh lands like Florida. My neighborhood in San Francisco is not on landfill and is not sinking.
Looks like those new properties are overvalued if factoring sidewalk repair liabilities.
I grew up in the Bay Area and it amazes me that San Francisco has allowed so much over building. How many other buildings will fall when Millennium Tower falls? The city is collapsing on itself and its not going to take an earthquake to finish the job.
Why would sidewalks not be part of the city’s responsibility? Why is the street for cars public but the street for walking is private?
It may be hard to believe but your property line goes out to the center of the streets. You pay tax on that but the city deems it necessary for public passage rights. IOW, there must be room for public passage allowed by the land owner. It not exactly the same everywhere and all situations but that the gist of it.
It's pretty bizarre. Here in the UK pavement maintenance is part of what we pay our local taxes to maintain along with local roads and injuries or damage caused by poor upkeep are the liability of the local council, every year councils across the country get sued by people tripping on uneven paving slabs or damage to wheels and suspension on cars hitting pot holes and I can't understand why that would be different in the US, I mean don't you pay property taxes plus local income taxes in the States? What the heck are you paying for?
@@darthwiizius we pay taxes so that we can go invade other countries, bomb the hell out of them, and then go back in and occupy/rebuild them for decades….. God forbid they actually use our tax money to repair infrastructure here at home….
@@RandomRandomnessKCMO
Well I never realised San Fran council was so active in the World. If you want to get your national infrastructure fixed then go and protest outside Sinema and Manchin's houses and work places, give those 2 corrupt fuckers no peace, treat them like, I dunno, an oil rich middle eastern country or a country south of Mexico.
Because governments aren't stupid...EVERY sidewalk is the owners' responsibility...
If it is a person or company's responsibility to repair the sidewalk, and the damage presents a safety risk, owners should start blocking off their portion so they don't get sued. If the government wants to claim that they can't do that, okay, then the government should cover the repairs. Public use equals public responsibility.
You ALL gave up your right to fight city hall when u installed total socialist democracy in your "government". They will decide your fate, THEY know it will be for the "greater good". Take it & shut up.
It is called a public right of way. Stop making stupid comments about things you don't understand.
@@thornil2231 I understand u get what u vote for. File your complaints in the circular "file" in under your desk with the stale pizza
"Building on a landfill sounds safe" -who ever had the idea to build there...
... made a lot of money.
... moved to an upscale neighboorhood.
... enjoys their retirement without ever thinking of sinking.
The blind leading the blind. Has no one ever been to Europe? In Europe they use pavers … no cracks, and easily reset if settlement occurs.
We have a community pool...cement deck was shifting and cracking very bad in 3 years time. I found guy to do replacement with pavers...he found a cheaper guy who did same old cement 👎👎
The CITY is the one who gave the approval to build on that land. The CITY is the one with the old maps that know for a fact they are building on top of landfill. The CITY is the one who wants to collect the taxes for approving The construction in that area.
Then the CITY should be the one to pay for their mistakes
If your dog takes a crap in front of your neighbors sidewalk in front of the door is it your neighbors responsibility to pick up your dogs dog CRAP
The CITY needs to pick up after their CRAP 💩
Buildings have no problems.
This is going to be devastating when a huge section of the city becomes a sinkhole.
see “La Brae”
are we supposed to feel sorry for the people who are caught up in the looming and oft-reported potential devastation they've ignored for decades?
Looking at the city how would you tell when it happens?
Here in Vegas, we (public works) are responsible for the sidewalks. We will fix them at our expense. The business owners already paid for the sidewalks thru their taxes. We have a couple sidewalk crews that jackhammer and replace sidewalks full time.
No wonder why so many are moving here. We don't rip people off.
Vegas seems great, but hot. Idk though it might be worth it to sweat a little.
@@joltjolt5060 It's hot: Half of June thru mid-August. Then the temps moderate. At this moment (4:13 pm) it's 78*. Basically two months of dry heat then 10 months of mostly nice weather. Those aren't bad numbers. And you will never have a rusty car ever again. Cars last virtually until you get tired of them.
WHO WANT TO LIVE IN THE 🏜 🏝 🏜 🏝 MAY I NOT ASK
Those very bad sidewalks are also dangerous for baby strollers and elderly people, as well as those with disabilities. Those disabled people include visually impaired citizens and those who are wheelchair bound. Other disabled people use crutches, walkers, or canes, like my mom uses one.
How convenient, sidewalks are no longer the cities responsibility
The government there won’t be happy till San Francisco is completely up in flames. Just letting everything go to hell
@@oooof6861 0.1% of San Francisco, all of the headlines
In my city, sidewalks are the city's problem.
In California, home owners are financially responsible for public side walk. It should be called walking tax.
The city just made me pay sidewalk repair.
Meanwhile in my neighborhood PG&E is tearing up the streets and sidewalks and leaving everything warped to hell.
@@jayhuang7747 Wow! I wouldn't last long there, Jay.
If they have to fix sidewalk does that mean they can put gate on it ?
No. The sidewalk must remain free for pedestrians and wheelchairs to use.
So the sea isn't rising, the land is sinking.
Building on landfill in an earthquake-prone area. Remember what happened in 89? Buildings in the Missions District sank and tilted.
A tale of two sidewalks 😂
I was one of the Inspector on these building when they were built. I was curios as to why most ig the underground services were hung on supports and covered in p-gravel. I was told that they expected the ground to sink on the order of 10-20 inches in the next 20 years. So this phenomena is not out of the original building specification, but exactly what was expected.
This is so tragic. Thoughts and prayers to all those affected.
Could the tower bring down blocks with it?
The property owners are responsible unless they decide to do something on the side walk and then it magically belongs back to them. Blame shifting doesn't solve the problem
"California tumbles into the sea
That'll be the day I go back to Annandale" Steely Dan
The city is the one that approved the permits for the construction, the city is liable.
If I trip who do I sue?
sinking to the left I'm sure.
so if the sidewalks belong to the building, the building owners can just block off the sidewalks. what would the city say to that?
True
That tower needs to come down
If you are from the city...you know what's landfill & what's not. Tisk Tisk from the point💜
We have a neighborhood in Philadelphia called Logan where some city blocks were sinking. The neighborhood was built on a landfill. These were only 2 story homes. The houses eventually were condemned and the city bulldozed about 1 square mile of houses. If the 2 story houses were sinking because it was built on landfill, what you think would happen with 50 story highrises?
😲 " WOW!.... Talk about ' having that sinking feeling ' . It started off with the, seemingly, never-ending Millenium Tower debacle. Now, it's sinking Mission Bay sidewalks. While many are nail biting over the next big Earthquake, San Francisco is literally collapsing under It's own sheer weight. "
So if the sidewalks are private property then why are so many homeless are sleeping on the sidewalks when the property owner/security can tell them to leave?
How about build it right in the first place
Yup that's SF for you.
Hince Landfill ,Remember That When As It Will Keep Sinking Just Like That Joke of A Building
Does the Cypress freeway ring a bell??
1:37 -- mask not covering nose. Why wear one at all?
is this from tectonic shifting? is it a harbinger of a coming earthquake?
Dear San Fran, FFS
Please stop what you are doing and look to Chicago. Chicago set all the standards for building on landfill and I can assure you that we figured out how to build sidewalks that don't sink and buildings that don't tilt due to subsidence.
What ever is going on over there is not ok. Too many too smart people with ideas and not enough practical experience...
Absolutely agree.
Damn near everything east of state street is landfill from the chicago fire, solid refuse disposal etc. Massively compacted and mixed with cementitious fill.
One thing, as a builder, we have occasionally run into on the near north side (DePaul, Lincoln Park, Sheffield, Wrigleyville etc) is live streams of water below grade in existing basements, some of which required perimeter tiling and permanent ejection. Lake Michigan is no match for any kind of engineering, it can find its' way in.
But the city issued the permits for them to build in the first place…?
Bad sub grade means either non compacted sub grade material or bad backfill on subgrade. As the cracks get bigger the rain water will get worse saturating the subgrade. Who ever put the side walks in didn't compact to correct densities.
What you you need to do is go to court and site the civil disability laws. Los Angeles tried the same crap and there was a lawsuit against the city citing the civil disability laws and the Los Angeles lost and now is repairing the sidewalks !!
Here in Vegas, we (public works) build and repair the sidewalks. We don't charge homeowners or businesses. They pay taxes already, we are paid by those taxes. We have special sidewalk crews that tear out and re-pour sidewalks FAST because that's all they do. Yes, I work for public works.
@@TheBandit7613 that is the way it supposed to be.
"Built on landfill". LOL!
Since its private property then moving the tent people should be easy ?
Remember to keep lowering the bar on educational standards in order to curb racism. That way the next breed of architects and engineers can make even bigger mess ups. But don't say anything, because that would be racist. CA logic
Imagine spending $1,000,000+ for a condo in a brand new neighborhood, then the sidewalks start sinking, and the city government (for which you’re paying hundreds of thousands of dollars in property taxes) doesn’t do anything 😂🤣.
And then the SAME city residents keep voting for more Democrats!! 🤣🤣
Republicans would just not have sidewalks at all. They believe you should just drive everywhere.
@@TransitAndTeslas Lmao, imagine thinking the only two parties are Democrats and Republicans 😂.
Also, it’s all about property rights. If the city owns the sidewalks and roads, then they need to be responsible. If the city wants to sell the roads/sidewalks to the building owners, then the building owners become responsible. Pretty simple, except the corrupt government officials can’t even understand this which is why it’s stuck in limbo. The government wants taxes, but they don’t want to be responsible for fixing the issue.
i'm on the hook for my sidewalks in ohio, too, so i doubt it's just a backwards liberal traitor's 'thought' process, more like it's systemic corruption of government responsibility because it's a pure expense they can force onto the homeowner.
@@manlymcstud8588 very smart answer sometimes ppl get too caught up on the Dem/Rep thing. Both side has good and bad qualities. You’re 100% right tho about the systemic problem
@@jayyoung778 without trying to sound like a moderate, i believe you have to admit to faults of both sides. you also have to do your research, actual research and not just from sources that tell you want you want to hear.
that said, right now i can't find a single redeeming quality the liberals have going for them. the old school democrats seem downright conservative by comparison, and it pains me to see the GOP turning into that.
well, the one thing that never changes is it's still about money, control, and power. were it in my power to do so, i would require all elected officials right down to write-in candidates for city council to take a psychology test to weed out psychopathic and sociopathic personalities.
neither side wants term limits, neither wants to change the laws making it illegal to use the same old methods of wealth-building that would land you and i prison, neither wants stiff mandatory jail time for corruption.
both sides seems to make two kinds of laws: 1) those that suits them personally, and 2) those that don't affect them at all.
San Francisco got money to help homeless from other state but can’t use our tax money to help people who live in San Francisco ?
There is no money after the Four families that rule California pocket their take.
So the building is pulling down all the property around it, too? That can't be good.
Sidewalks? I can promise you foundations will be affected as well.
4:36 nailed it with her comment. Linda is a leader for sure. Now too bad she’s not an elected official or a public works employee…
Sidewalks should be the city’s responsibility just like the road itself is.
Remember the 89 earthquake? The 280 freeway fell. And houses/apartments there going for $2.5m easily.
💯
Incorrect. The 280 Interstate freeway did not fall. You are referring to the Cypress double deck structure of the 880 Interstate freeway in Oakland.
Is there not a skyscraper already leaning and ready to collapse one day in the city?
It’s call character, Johnny
That used to be marshland next to the bay.
It's not too bad of a fix. Inject expanding foam under the problematic sidewalks for in-place repairs.
As an Uber driver the streets of San Francisco are horrendous especially on a motorcycle or scooter.
Sink holes or is it due to the earthquakes
Good alternative for people who can't afford to go to Venice. Throw in some gondolas & have the homeless subsidize some frescos.
The entire city is going into the toilet.
Normal construction cutting corners again
If you think that is something. Look at the sidewalks in Mexico City.
I swear its like we are watching 2012, but updated to 2021
This is not uncommon around the SF bay area. There are landfill and Bay Mud areas all around the bay margin. Unfortunately, it requires maintenance and special procedures. Almost the entire City of Foster City is on Bay Mud!
In mean time Yellow spray paint any cracks...Caution 👍👍👍
LANDFILL. Not natural ground.
Just like California leadership, the whole state is falling apart.
Democrats are terrorists destroying the United states and the world.
Public areas are the government's responsibility to maintain. Private areas are the owner's responsibility to maintain. Sidewalks are part of a city's or state infrastructure. Unless property owners don't pay property tax, the government should fix the sidewalk.
Too much pee and poop 💩 on the sidewalks.
So house the homeless.
lol, never change cray cray sf... never change...
Things will change real fast once a high-paid lawyer gets injured walking to or from a ball game.
businesses should take over the area of the sidewalk and use it for profit!
How about coming and going to the hospital?
Seems like the city could be eating the cost of researching a longterm solution, while the property owners pay for the prescribed repairs.
Oh, my bad, this is California. Fine the business owners instead, starting with the smaller ones.
Yes the cracks are getting worse, might as well fill them with dirty needles and 💩
You build on landfill and you’re surprised it’s sinking? 🤔
the earth is alive people!!
Leaning city of sanfran sooner or latet
Hey neighbors, nature is whispering to you... Better listen up .
New Bay clay is rushing to meet its old bay clay bro. underneath to be a happy big family again. 😁
In Hong Kong pedestrian walkways are attached to buildings, and if these buildings are on bedrock, why not attach a raised walkway to replace sidewalk.
Lol. In Texas, the sidewalks are PUBLIC PROPERTY!! 😂😂
It is true that the maintenance of sidewalks is the property owners responsibility. But this problem is geological and is due to poor city planning and poor city development of the Mission Bay area. The streets are also sinking. I guess the politicians will blame the property owners for that as well.
This doesn't have anything to do with the cracks in the sidwalk, but the way this highly intelligent person is wearing the mask .😂
Aren’t sidewalks public property?
Yep just like swales but homeowners cut the grass on it.
I thought sidewalks were public and maintained by the city, and not private.
I remember back in the 80s NO one would go to the mission bay and near 3rd street. Now all these RICH tech lived and worked in those areas. good luck to you all. don't worry those people have $$$$$$$$$$$.
What’s up with the weird bokeh...
I usually say almost the samething when walking in SF. "Wow these are enormous craps of poo. How do these zombies poop so big when their diet consist of Taaka and meth."?
One fix for some areas maybe jacking up part of the low section partway and grinding off the high edge where two slabs come together or join. This is done to deal with driveways sagging. Yes it is a stopgap measure, I know. A hole or holes is or are drilled thru the concrete and either foam or mud is pumped under to raise the slab.
Lots of examples on U tube.
Landfill Build. Nuff said
& at the Mission Rock development, 8 new giant buildings are in process of being constructed at the very edge of the landfill! Approved after the city was aware of sinking. Mission Bay is a ground liquification zone, so in an earthquake, the streets and sidewalks could just collapse. In a state known for engineering excellence, how are these incredibly dangerous buildings getting approved!?! I lived in the neighborhood and our garage had huge gashes through the concrete in the garage ceiling. The building was only 10 ish years old and having major structural issues.
I saw a mission bay resident get attacked by a crazy person. I was going to step in until he was asking why was this happening. I was born here not going to explain the dynamics. Police showed up but couldn’t help by laughing.
Yes! Sidewalks and roads are the responsibility of a city and its governing body.
If you do not charge enough in property taxes to maintain those things properly, then you have an unsustainable management system, and your city is ultimately doomed.