@@Br0kensaint1 if that was the case Jackie s.a would dominate many sports...a quick look at yr Olympic results says otherwise....there is a huge issue re steroid use in SA...fact....yr retired players simply deflate
I love rugby, it's impossible not to I'm south african. South Africans are a very diverse group, the blacks have some big guys with crazy athleticism. And the Afrikaners are huge, those people are generally massive and strong. We have schools where Atleast 90% of the boys are playing rugby. Rugby is a culture and we have an abundance of talent. There can never be a talent drain for rugby in south Africa cause there's infite talent. Even when Saffas go and play abroad etc we still produce guys that are better. The genes for rugby are very good and the general warrior spirit of our blacks and Afrikaners makes them tough as nails.
The sheer amount of school boys that play rugby here is actually staggering. We have more prospects than any nation in the world. Need to start creating real systems to develop and incorporate these players into South African Rugby.
For me I wish rugby was more accessible in south Africa... Its still mostly played at former model c schools... So most coloured and black kids will never get a chance to play this sport... Rugby is only played in less the 25 percent of South African schools....
@@madimetjamahlatse9270 Yeah I mean it's actually mostly played in Afrikaans schools for sure. I am a white (English) South African and none of the schools I went to in my school career offered rugby. That was more than a decade ago, so I hope things have changed.
For me, the scary thing about South Africa is that the talent pool is virtually untapped. The moment black schools start playing rugby and have access to proper coaching resources, structures, and facilities, I think there will be a massive explosion of talent. We are talking two-thirds of the population here. The black talent we have in the system now isn't even the tip of the iceberg. While I have made reference to race, that is purely for context. My point is that there is a massive opportunity to increase our talent pool and improve the quality of competition for top-tier places.
Too true NextGenXV you've got a great channel in that regard, love seeing your updates on SA's boys coming through and our future stars I'm excited to say the least, rugby has an interesting future indeed
South African schoolboys will benefit from senior players leaving for Europe because that's sometimes the only reason we lose them to the game overall. Many schoolboy teams here could compete with top division pro teams in other countries.
Loving these perspectives of South Africans. Comment on the chirping: We don't enjoy chirping, we would rather under chirp and over perform physically, than over chirp and not man up physically. Seems like a common theme from the Europe boys ;)
Saffas do enjoying ‘chirping’. They’re just really crap at it. They’re mouthy when they win and they’re even more mouthy when they lose, even when losing to the likes of Japan and Italy. They’ve also lost half of their tests this year and just finished 3rd in the RC - so much for this “fronting up”. What a load of macho bollocks 😂😂
@@dirkcrafford1814 That’s called having a fragile ego and terrible insecurity. If banter/sledging makes you want to hit people then you probably need to take a good hard look in the mirror along with some man up pills. Oh and find a sense of humour somewhere.
Bro the rate that SA schoolboy rugby players grow in size from the age of 16-17/18 is unreal There are a few U17's that changed from our school to a new one in a nearby town that were ranked higher in the country. And you wouldn't believe how some of them grew and put size on faster than a bodybuilder who's taking 3 types of steroids simultaneously. One of the was like 95kg at 16 years old,but after changing to the new school he added almost 20kg of muscle mass in less than 6 months. Like how on earth is that possible....
It’s called growth hormone. I played against Francois Steyn at school boys level. He was built like a beanpole. When I saw him again months later lining up for the Sharks, he was the size of a house. That doesn’t happen without PEDs. It’s physiologically impossible.
@@THEMRblackboy7thst there been tested!!! And no you talking bull s... it took him 2 years to get to thst size!!!! A SOUTH AFRICAN.ITS JUST A GENETIC THING!!!WE "BOERE" ARE NATURALLY VERY BIG!!!!
For me, the scary thing about South Africa is that the talent pool is virtually untapped. The moment black schools start playing rugby and have access to proper coaching resources, structures, and facilities, I think there will be a massive explosion of talent. We are talking two-thirds of the population here. The black talent we have in the system now isn't even the tip of the iceberg. While I have made reference to race, that is purely for context. My point is that there is a massive opportunity to increase our talent pool and improve the quality of competition for top-tier places. The Springboks could be even tougher to beat in the coming years.
I've been thinking the same thing and it would be wonderful to hopefully see a wider group of people getting funding, support and opportunities - there's bound to be some serious talent just waiting to come through
iv been dreading this 4 a long time as a nz fan, in a few deecades the boks will basically have a afrikan pak and a african back line ...heaven help us
Totally agree with you. The talent pool in SA and in Africa as a whole has no equal but the problem in the black schools are not just the lack of facilities and finances, it is also the unionised culture of the teaching staff as they want additional payment for extramural activities after hours and over weekends.
Great show but commenting on school boy rugby peds when your own country does zero testing is a bit rich. Rather get the home nations to start testing and then consider commenting.
Calling a braai a BBQ is more illegal than SA schoolboys dubbing the Scottish National anthem 😂. English is a second language for most of the players on the Springboks - possible explanation for lack of banter in English? But you guys wouldn’t actually have said half the stuff you did here if a South African was present - just sore about the World Cup still 😅🤣.
One of the huge problems with English speakers is they assume they have are the creators of wit, sarcasm and banter. It's a human thing NOT a cultural thing.
Nope from schoolboy level upwards their is a myriad of other issues killing that talent from filtering into the system. Sadly a number of people are forced to leave due to policies that are enforcing selection of certain players in teams. That's a factor but that upper tier system is also invested by incompetence and poor management. They tend to play the non South African way with over kicking and obsession around defence which just destroys all creativity
Hilton's a beautiful school. But I think Michaelhouse takes the cake for the most beautiful school in the world. No jokes. Guys are soft from there though;)
@@christiaanroets5483 the best rugby players play it because they love the sport but there are a great many who also just wants to fight when playing and give rugby a bad name
Good show. Good guys. But remember English is second language for us. I wonder how Funny you guys are playing French top14. Well I know the answer nil. Coz Hardly anyone speaks a seconds language
You guys don't have to make fun of South Africans. We usually take care of that ourselves. We SHIT on the Boks and their utter disgraceful performance during the Rugby Championship. When you wear the green and gold, you better f@£$INg perform 150%.
@@krevula its interesting isn't it . I don't follow school rugby, but if the school standard is so high in South Africa why is it not bringing players into yhe U20. I suspect that perhaps the route into U20s is through clubs.
@@patrickchilds2987 I think the best way to answer it is that our school rugby is run like a professional club/academy. They put in the best coaches and apply the best coaching practices. After school South African rugby ironically lacks professionalism if I could say. So we might have the best players but don’t have the proper systems in place to develop our talent
Be glad, its something special, just to know Duane Vermeulen, nevermind play against him. We grow them tough, in SA, so beware, even without politics, we're still big boys in SA, never say die, go on Aussies, lets see if you can win a World Cup, if you got the same corrupt, political stuff, we've got here. Please, don't be too outspoken, if you haven't played a game in our Toggs...?
I see your comment is edited. Why don’t you go ahead and edit it again from “half of them” to “a very very small percentage that the media love to target”
@@christopher59 there are more natural than on roids. My brother recieved a contract to play in france and hes from sa and a lifetime natural athlete. If you did it natural the things you gain are way beyond roids
@@christopher59 My 12 year old Son wears my size 13 shoes. I'm 6'7 and he's only about a head shorter than me. He is more than twice the size of most of the boys in his school. We grow them big here.... No need for Roids....
There is definitely doping problem is SA schools rugby, as a parent who had my son skipped over because we wouldnt do it, I know. And its very much a money thing from the schools, the sponsorships winning brings, no care in the world to the wellbeing of the boys. Its why we almost never see the highschool super stars transfer to senior lvl, where suddenly drug testing becomes a thing when its not done at school lvl. I was in hospital twice for surgery and both times more multiple rugby boys from the one major rugby highschool in the had boys in the ward for kidney failure (doctors confirmed cause of doping supplements). The doping itself is not an SA rugby issie, its a schools issue, its about the money tied into sponsorships from winning. These school kids almost never end up in senior leagues, they are treated as disposable income by their schools, who happily sacrifice potential careers of their students for sponsorship revenue for the school itself.
Yeah, big awesome physical specimens BUT .....slow thinking, unskilled (no elite skills), and Low game IQ. Typical of Bok rugby these days trending towards the northern hemisphere type forward, kicking type game.
Armand, something Einstein mentioned - Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe. So, I’m seriously trying to convince myself that you’re just uninformed.
Schoolboy rugby in South Africa is the best in the world and has no equal
Maybe the greatest in Africa 😂
@@mystiqueropiha9537 ignorance is truly bliss my dear friend. Grey Bloem, Affies, Paarl Gym etc put on 20 point wins against touring sides.
best supplement programme
@@anfg7376 you cant compete with genetics
@@Br0kensaint1 if that was the case Jackie s.a would dominate many sports...a quick look at yr Olympic results says otherwise....there is a huge issue re steroid use in SA...fact....yr retired players simply deflate
I love rugby, it's impossible not to I'm south african. South Africans are a very diverse group, the blacks have some big guys with crazy athleticism. And the Afrikaners are huge, those people are generally massive and strong. We have schools where Atleast 90% of the boys are playing rugby. Rugby is a culture and we have an abundance of talent. There can never be a talent drain for rugby in south Africa cause there's infite talent. Even when Saffas go and play abroad etc we still produce guys that are better. The genes for rugby are very good and the general warrior spirit of our blacks and Afrikaners makes them tough as nails.
And the coloureds with the crazy stepping. 😅
@@12334ttqtqt exactly!! Our coloreds have so much flair
The sheer amount of school boys that play rugby here is actually staggering. We have more prospects than any nation in the world. Need to start creating real systems to develop and incorporate these players into South African Rugby.
For me I wish rugby was more accessible in south Africa...
Its still mostly played at former model c schools...
So most coloured and black kids will never get a chance to play this sport...
Rugby is only played in less the 25 percent of South African schools....
@@madimetjamahlatse9270 Yeah I mean it's actually mostly played in Afrikaans schools for sure. I am a white (English) South African and none of the schools I went to in my school career offered rugby. That was more than a decade ago, so I hope things have changed.
For me, the scary thing about South Africa is that the talent pool is virtually untapped. The moment black schools start playing rugby and have access to proper coaching resources, structures, and facilities, I think there will be a massive explosion of talent. We are talking two-thirds of the population here. The black talent we have in the system now isn't even the tip of the iceberg. While I have made reference to race, that is purely for context. My point is that there is a massive opportunity to increase our talent pool and improve the quality of competition for top-tier places.
I mean, that cant really be the only sport the boys get into?
Is Rugby League not a thing?
@@slagathor54 Your last name makes you an Afrikaner
Love to see RP talking a bit of school rugby 🔥 Look forward to more!
Too true NextGenXV you've got a great channel in that regard, love seeing your updates on SA's boys coming through and our future stars I'm excited to say the least, rugby has an interesting future indeed
@@benjaminlavin533 appreciate that man! Hopefully we can get into more markets in the near future
South African schoolboys will benefit from senior players leaving for Europe because that's sometimes the only reason we lose them to the game overall. Many schoolboy teams here could compete with top division pro teams in other countries.
Come on its our Varsities that can compete at that level
You are dreaming if you think a South African school side can compete with top divisional pro team. That's ridiculous.
I wouldn't mind seeing how Grey College first XV compete in the MLR.
I rate a top 4 finish
easily sir
BBQ is a line you stand in for a haircut, here, we BRAAI!!!!
Lol...love that.
Loving these perspectives of South Africans. Comment on the chirping: We don't enjoy chirping, we would rather under chirp and over perform physically, than over chirp and not man up physically. Seems like a common theme from the Europe boys ;)
Just realised we(SA) don't chirp much ey
yr pretty good at one sport...congrats to you
@@tshiya.mosikili2324 We know a chirp could lead to a fist to the jaw
Saffas do enjoying ‘chirping’. They’re just really crap at it. They’re mouthy when they win and they’re even more mouthy when they lose, even when losing to the likes of Japan and Italy. They’ve also lost half of their tests this year and just finished 3rd in the RC - so much for this “fronting up”. What a load of macho bollocks 😂😂
@@dirkcrafford1814 That’s called having a fragile ego and terrible insecurity. If banter/sledging makes you want to hit people then you probably need to take a good hard look in the mirror along with some man up pills. Oh and find a sense of humour somewhere.
Bro the rate that SA schoolboy rugby players grow in size from the age of 16-17/18 is unreal
There are a few U17's that changed from our school to a new one in a nearby town that were ranked higher in the country. And you wouldn't believe how some of them grew and put size on faster than a bodybuilder who's taking 3 types of steroids simultaneously.
One of the was like 95kg at 16 years old,but after changing to the new school he added almost 20kg of muscle mass in less than 6 months. Like how on earth is that possible....
Genetic freaks
It’s called growth hormone. I played against Francois Steyn at school boys level. He was built like a beanpole. When I saw him again months later lining up for the Sharks, he was the size of a house. That doesn’t happen without PEDs. It’s physiologically impossible.
wow thats incredible.
@@THEMRblackboy7thst there been tested!!! And no you talking bull s... it took him 2 years to get to thst size!!!! A SOUTH AFRICAN.ITS JUST A GENETIC THING!!!WE "BOERE" ARE NATURALLY VERY BIG!!!!
@@ianjacobs2998
Stem saam, tjom!!!
Daai ou praat k@k, anyway, as hy ooit teen Soois gedjol het, het Soois seker reg deur hom gehol...😆😆😆
For me, the scary thing about South Africa is that the talent pool is virtually untapped. The moment black schools start playing rugby and have access to proper coaching resources, structures, and facilities, I think there will be a massive explosion of talent. We are talking two-thirds of the population here. The black talent we have in the system now isn't even the tip of the iceberg. While I have made reference to race, that is purely for context. My point is that there is a massive opportunity to increase our talent pool and improve the quality of competition for top-tier places. The Springboks could be even tougher to beat in the coming years.
I've been thinking the same thing and it would be wonderful to hopefully see a wider group of people getting funding, support and opportunities - there's bound to be some serious talent just waiting to come through
Hard to change how important soccer is to the same people you speak of, obviously the more South Africans of any race play the better for rugby
iv been dreading this 4 a long time as a nz fan, in a few deecades the boks will basically have a afrikan pak and a african back line ...heaven help us
Totally agree with you. The talent pool in SA and in Africa as a whole has no equal but the problem in the black schools are not just the lack of facilities and finances, it is also the unionised culture of the teaching staff as they want additional payment for extramural activities after hours and over weekends.
@@andreventer8734 A very valid point. I would extend that to parental involvement too. There simply is none.
The Number 1 Rugby school in the world is GRAY college in the small city of Bloemfontein in South Africa
Nd that's FACTS
Paul Roos boy says sit down. Hahaha but for real.. Gray is great..
Nope
There the number 1 in SA not the world
Grey BTW...and Bloemfontein is the capital city of the Orange Free State where i was born , in Kroonstad
@@kai_au6765 Not correct. They've been consistently number one in the world for many years.
The Saffas are very mouthy, just not in a language you understand😂
You know this? You.played there? Clearly don't know what you are talking about
Its a pity South African schools dont tour more
They will get robbed more...???
Anyone else take offense to them calling a '' Braai '' a '' BBQ ''. No? Just me 😂
It took me so long to figure out that they were talking about a Braai 🤣🤣
Great show but commenting on school boy rugby peds when your own country does zero testing is a bit rich. Rather get the home nations to start testing and then consider commenting.
Calling a braai a BBQ is more illegal than SA schoolboys dubbing the Scottish National anthem 😂. English is a second language for most of the players on the Springboks - possible explanation for lack of banter in English? But you guys wouldn’t actually have said half the stuff you did here if a South African was present - just sore about the World Cup still 😅🤣.
Ikr they're still salty about their loss in the world cup thats kinda pathetic tbh😂
@Camillej7006 Bullshit stop lying!!
The banter they say in Afrikaans is top shelf though.
Facts
One of the huge problems with English speakers is they assume they have are the creators of wit, sarcasm and banter. It's a human thing NOT a cultural thing.
@@HenryDube72 not really , South African banter is just shit
@@prudeuncle wrong 🤷🏿♂️ and South African banter is still shit
@@prudeuncle been there nice country , still banter is shit 😭😭 don’t get triggered lmao
Suid-Afrika schoolboy rugby doesn't reflect Suid-Afrika national team. After school most players play overseas.
Nope from schoolboy level upwards their is a myriad of other issues killing that talent from filtering into the system. Sadly a number of people are forced to leave due to policies that are enforcing selection of certain players in teams. That's a factor but that upper tier system is also invested by incompetence and poor management. They tend to play the non South African way with over kicking and obsession around defence which just destroys all creativity
@@Br0kensaint1 my comment is saying that after school ZA rugby boys leave the ZA system.
@@Christopher-lx4ud fair enough
Too much boetie Boetie at national level ! Almost like a Catholic priest ! Bless you my son !
Still beat lions, all blacks and won world cup with quota system
Whole video talks about school rugby for less than 30 seconds
Hilton's a beautiful school. But I think Michaelhouse takes the cake for the most beautiful school in the world. No jokes. Guys are soft from there though;)
These schools might be the most expensive. I've physically been to both. They're ok. There are some pretty nice schools in SA trust me.
@@BhekiHlongwane-f8l Haha I've seen a few. I'm from Kzn. St Johns jozi is epic too. Bishops nice also
Hilton and Michalehouse are great but not as great as Maritzburg College
bishops the best
Affies is the best because they have the privilege of admiring Pretoria Boys’ campus across the road
Lekker gesels. Mooi manne! Dankie.
South Africa don't do banter. In other words get to the point.
wot you on about bru'chee? Of course we do banter! ;-)
No we do banter, and quite a lot.
Especially if we're being pushed into it.
Daars nie tyd ver daai banter nie misses banter ........it usually goes," right boet Kom ons moer hulle"
I’m not really into banter hey. It’s not my style 🇿🇦
@@christiaanroets5483 the best rugby players play it because they love the sport but there are a great many who also just wants to fight when playing and give rugby a bad name
You guys as pros should know the rugby tournaments! Learn your trade man!
Nice to see outsiders' banter about the culture of SA rugby.
For the record:) many of the traditional SA school's first rectors "don't know what it's called" came from Scotland and whe are proud of it;)
Well then you havent played against Bakkies Botha he can be very good at bantering
What's a BBQ?
F..k I love the internet sometimes. This was great. Will never see this kind of honestly and fun on TV.
Good show. Good guys. But remember English is second language for us. I wonder how Funny you guys are playing French top14. Well I know the answer nil. Coz Hardly anyone speaks a seconds language
Excactly, tjom!!!
You guys don't have to make fun of South Africans. We usually take care of that ourselves. We SHIT on the Boks and their utter disgraceful performance during the Rugby Championship. When you wear the green and gold, you better f@£$INg perform 150%.
BBQ
Hey Hilton got a mention….sweet.
south africans dont need banter to kick your asses
Hi guys ,T from RSA , tell Jack to pop a Chilli or two before and after a night out , it's like wondermeds!😂
It's funny, to hear non-south africans speaking about south african schools rugby - but a large part of what they say is true....
afrikaaner genetics so special
Why hasnt the South African rugby school system translated into the same success in the U20 World Rugby as NZ and England?
Great question
Perhaps the issue is that our U/20 are pros and don’t have a high performance program as in depth as England
@@krevula its interesting isn't it . I don't follow school rugby, but if the school standard is so high in South Africa why is it not bringing players into yhe U20. I suspect that perhaps the route into U20s is through clubs.
@@patrickchilds2987 I think the best way to answer it is that our school rugby is run like a professional club/academy. They put in the best coaches and apply the best coaching practices. After school South African rugby ironically lacks professionalism if I could say. So we might have the best players but don’t have the proper systems in place to develop our talent
We translate our talent well in WCs.
You forget New Zealand. Hamilton Boys ? World Champions
You could take a picture at golds and have fewer cycles 😂😂
If you learnt Afrikaans you may find the South African banter a bit harsh.
Get real!
Kak man..
Rubbish
6:04
How's the banter going there in NZ at the moment boys? SA 4 times world champs. But keep talking please, by all means.
Be glad, its something special, just to know Duane Vermeulen, nevermind play against him.
We grow them tough, in SA,
so beware, even without politics, we're still big boys in SA, never say die, go on Aussies, lets see if you can win a World Cup, if you got the same corrupt, political stuff, we've got here.
Please, don't be too outspoken, if you haven't played a game in our Toggs...?
Go look at jurenzo Julie's and you will see a future star
You guys have alot of shit to say about south africans you should rather focus on winning a major trophy
Old boys of *insert school name here*
When will we see.. your... likes again
Who lived and died for...
etc
Even James Louw another South African
Lekker manne!
“A bit juicy”
yea aaron smith is pretty bloody lippy, safas r very germanic guess tht hinders ther 'chat'
hahaha "Halla Juicy"
Roid summer camp
Small man syndrome
@@matto6195 lol that's what they go into college with
Yeah…. And steroids makes players taller too I guess
@@mahlanguism if you say so?
Tell me you're a 5ft7 northerner without telling me you're a 5ft7 northerner LOL
Half of them are on roids
I see your comment is edited. Why don’t you go ahead and edit it again from “half of them” to “a very very small percentage that the media love to target”
@@chrisza9782 how about edit this … stay off the roids “Chris ZA” or stop cheating upto you lad 🤷🏿♂️
@@christopher59 there are more natural than on roids. My brother recieved a contract to play in france and hes from sa and a lifetime natural athlete. If you did it natural the things you gain are way beyond roids
@@yourdad7538 true but I’ve played I’m France and surrounded by most saffas who were honest about using it during high school esp at Greys College
@@christopher59 My 12 year old Son wears my size 13 shoes. I'm 6'7 and he's only about a head shorter than me. He is more than twice the size of most of the boys in his school. We grow them big here.... No need for Roids....
There is definitely doping problem is SA schools rugby, as a parent who had my son skipped over because we wouldnt do it, I know.
And its very much a money thing from the schools, the sponsorships winning brings, no care in the world to the wellbeing of the boys.
Its why we almost never see the highschool super stars transfer to senior lvl, where suddenly drug testing becomes a thing when its not done at school lvl.
I was in hospital twice for surgery and both times more multiple rugby boys from the one major rugby highschool in the had boys in the ward for kidney failure (doctors confirmed cause of doping supplements).
The doping itself is not an SA rugby issie, its a schools issue, its about the money tied into sponsorships from winning. These school kids almost never end up in senior leagues, they are treated as disposable income by their schools, who happily sacrifice potential careers of their students for sponsorship revenue for the school itself.
Yeah, big awesome physical specimens BUT .....slow thinking, unskilled (no elite skills), and Low game IQ. Typical of Bok rugby these days trending towards the northern hemisphere type forward, kicking type game.
You should watch a SA school boys game before making a comment like that. Completely different to the national side.
Your comment shows your ignorance of SA school rugby
Armand, something Einstein mentioned - Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe. So, I’m seriously trying to convince myself that you’re just uninformed.
You like talking bulls.hit ant it. Theu are the best team so sot in the corner and cry
Ooo you are full of s.hit mate do not know what you talk about