B.I.N shellac is the only thing for varnish imo,it stops peeling and reduces chips.Other primers don't do this, especially on a staircase and trim.I have done a LOT of houses at this point, going from varnish back to white,also there is a lot of extra work like filling sap and knots also a lot of caulking.
thanks for posting this. I want to paint some pine floorboards that have had one coat of matt varnish. The chap at the local decorating centre told me that I had to sand them back to bare wood before painting. I knew about BIN so I searched and found you. I will now proceed with a light sand, knotting, BIN, primer undercoat and then finish with eggshell/satin. The floor is in a shepherds hut which won'y get lots of foot traffic but is there a particular paint you would recommend for my top coats that is hard wearing? Thanks again and all the best 😎
Once you have put the zinsser bin on, don't stand on it for about 10 days or more depending on the drying conditions it takes a while to go fully hard, maybe the zinsser cover stain will be better for this job as you will be able to stand on it after a couple of days, it still takes about 7 days to fully harden. I just noticed that the bin was brittle for a for few days after it was applied and would not be good for standing on untill fully cured johstones Aqua undercoat and top coat, give 1 undercoat then 2 topcoat don't use the Aqua guard as that is for inside. Leave a good day in-between coats, then leave as long as possible before you put stuff in there as it takes a few weeks to fully harden bedec multi surface paint or the bedec barn paint is a good shout. You can give it 3 coats of that. Like you say it won't get lots of foot traffic. Maybe ask in brewers decorating center and see what floor paints they do. Let me know what you end up doing.
@@Inexteriors thank very much for the swift response. Did you mean aqua guard is for ‘outside’? Great advice on the BIN on a floor. Think I will use knotting then cover stain then a few coats of satin or eggshell but will also investigate paints with PU in which I’ve seen mentioned. Will certainly let you know what I do 👍🏻
Great video. My house has (had) all brown varnished doors, skirtings, dados and staircase. I have had a painter and decorator in to paint all the woodwork white. I had 14 doors on my landing and he used a Johnstone's equivalent primer and sealer. I know he didn't sand down, as I suppose that would have cost a fortune for that many doors and woodwork., He read the label and it said it creates a really good bond, however, I only have to knock any of the doors or skirting for it to chip and I am often having to get the paint out to touch up the chipped bits, which is annoying. I am decorating one room at the moment on my own and have sanded down all the skirting boards and the door, so that will be interesting to see what happens when I have finished. I need to get a stain blocker and primer. You recommend the Zinser Bin, shellac version, but what do you think about the Zinsser 123, water based version. I don't want to get the wrong one. Your advice would be very helpful. Going to have to live with what the decorator did and he is a friend's husband, so can't really complain.....
The zinsser bin is a shellac based paint that dries fast and enables you to get on. and you can use water based undercoat and top coat, the 123 is water based and wont seal it, you can use oil based undercoat and top coat, it just means waiting a day beetween each coat.
Hi great video. I wanted to ask that when we paint over gloss varnish i have seen that the paint normally peals off after sometime therefore im really concerned before doing anything. Will not be easy to change rhe skirting boards and then paint. Please help me out as im not good at diy. Thank u
Hi Steven. Great Video. I have a varnished staircase that the wife want white gloss on instead. It that a wise move. Can I do this with the same method. Rub down, Zinzer, then gloss it?
Thank you for the video, so the Zinsser B-i-n Primer & Sealer is just a sealer, I want a white satin finish on my living room door, what is the best paint to use for the next step? Thank you.
Thanks for this. I used Brewer’s Albany ‘Super’ Primer Undercoat over keyed varnished wood and then oil base Dulux Trade Eggshell. It has been cold and a bit damp but I can scratch the coatings off with my thumb nail? Have I made a mistake or do I just have to wait a few more days for it to cure? With many thanks, Alex
Your skirting looks amazing. Ive just moved and i stripped the skirtings as they were a mess. Found varnish under all the gloss and a load of plaster. Its been so stressful. I stripped, sanded and used 2 coats of primer (never knew about zinzer) ive still to gloss. Have all my efforts been in vain without the zinzer?
just get some zinsser on them know then you will be fine, sometimes you have to go one step backwards to move forward again, make sure to get zinsser bin.
@@Inexteriors thanks I will get these skirtings done eventually. Its put me off stripping the rest of my skirtings even though they're a total mess. I can't afford to replace.
Hi, I’ve just painted a standard varnished fire door, it was well sanded down and dusted off. I’ve painted it with three coats of Zinser 123 and I am still getting yellow come through on the undercoat when I apply the gloss will the yellow still come through any help would be much appreciated.
Hello. Could you please give me your best advice on choosing the most durable water based for my wooden framed windows? Using 80 grit sandpaper I spent hours & days hand sanding x 4 wooden sash window frames. I sanded off old layers of yellowed gloss leaving behind a thin layer of gloss which I can now see the wood grain through. I now have trust issues finding the most durable water based paints for my interior. I want to be 100% sure I am choosing the right paint system so I don't have to re-do all my efforts ? I am new to water based paints. So how would I go about this ? Do I need to prime ? uncoat ? Please tell me the most professional trustworthy durable pants recommended with the longest lasting effect ? Regards Micheal
Bedec multi surface paint is a good one, so is the zinnser allcoat, but most say the bedec multi surface paint is better. there are others but these have really impressed me, i have only been playing with the water based paints for about 6 years to be honest.
@@Inexteriors Hey thanks for your advise. Yes I heard Bedec although I cannot get in any paint stores near me. I can try the Zisser allcoat even though Imany said Zisser it's like water and very thin . I see what primer workd best for Zisser
@@Inexteriors I keep running into Bedec as being the assured winner from professional painters. It will cost me twice as much with delivery but if it's trustworthy and I can reply I have the best durable paint. Bedec it is . For my doors I am using AG as I can buy it here. is it Bedec Multi-Surface Satin Paint ? I like to use Satin. is this the one ? I will try buy online.
Hi Steven. Very informative videos. I just wanted to get your opinion on the Zinsser BIN and cover stain please. I painted some doors and architrave in our house. What I've found is that the paint has chipped slightly in a couple of places on the corners of both where the kids have hit off them with their toys. I've done all the proper prep work but I just thinking the Bin might be a bit brittle for areas that take knocks. My question is, what would you think of 1 coat of cover stain and 1 coat of Bin (for the knots) and then the undercoat and topcoat? Would the cover stain be more hard wearing and help with paint chipping slightly at the corners, in your professional opinion?
Thankyou very much, to be honest i have never used the cover stain. i only started to use the zinsser products a couple of years ago. Zinsser bin i have used for water stains, exterior spot priming and covering varnish before undercoat and top coat.I think that any paint would chip jf hit hard enough, nothing is 100 percent. Also it does take at least 30 days for water based undercoats and top coats to fully harden. I did some reasearch on google here is what was said. Zinsser Cover Stain provides durability and adhesion on glossy glossy surfaces. It's especially good on raw wood or MDF removing the risk of swelling that you could get with the water based 123 primer. Zinsser BIN is the toughest with the highest adhesion although it does have the highest price tag.
oil primer,oil undercoat. oil top coat. if bare wood. 2 oil undercoats, then 1 top coat, if varnished wood. the under coat is the key to providing a good base for the top coat.
find that aluminium primer is the best for all bare timber. bedec have got a new primer out called all primer does knots etc everything the shellack does but water based
@@Inexteriors The bedec all primer is like £30 cheaper for 5 litres and does more ferrous and non ferrous metal to and knots. aluminium primer is the bee's knees for all timber and old bitumen cresoste surfaces the best for knots also but we want a water based primer that can do everything make a better living
Hi Steve, I've accidentally haphazardly got osmo polyx oil on primed mdf skirt boards (approx 6 months ago) how do you recommend I go about either removing this or going over it? Ta
@@Inexteriors its drips/paint brushes here and there. I've picked up some zinsser 123 bullseye. Will this cover it? Or am I better off trying methylated spirits to try remove it first?
To be honest i have never come across this situation, I would sand and try and remove the affected areas first then clean, i would then spot up with the zinsser bin, also you can try bedec multi surface paint. Please let me know how you get on, and how you sorted it.
Hi Steve, love your videos, im a handyman and i have a job coming up and could do with your advise, i have to paint over a wallpapered wall that is stuck down well but i dont want the wallpaper pattern bleeding through the paint. Im going to use johnstones covaplus mixed in a light colour, i was thinking of using zinsser wallpaper coverup, but i read the reviews and people say it is really smelly, any advise please, plus what would you use on the ceiling, it is a through lounge, thanks Kevin
Thankyou very much. Try painting a test patch first to see how it covers, if the paper bleeds through the paint then use the zinsser wall paper cover up, if it all looks good then proceed with out using the zinsser wallpaper cover up. this video might help, i use Johnston's cover plus matt for most celings, also there is a johstones perfect matt that is very expensive. ua-cam.com/video/vIQcL9mJRrw/v-deo.html
Hi I'm still confused. We moved into a house where the previous owner has gone crazy with varnished pine everywhere lol I need to paint the cladding in the kitchen white (it's presently varnished) and the bannisters. I've got paint stripper and gloss dulux white paint. Will that do the job? Or Do I Sand, dust, then use Zimmer 123 stain killer and then the gloss on top? Sounds like a lot of work! Can't it be done alot more easier than that. I hate varnished and I'm 31 weeks pregnant. we need the house completed ASAP. Lol please help.
The zinsser bin is a shellac based paint used to block any staining or yellowing bleeding through the white top coat when using water based undercoat and top coat, The advantage being it all dries fast, the bin does smell a bit, but not for long, the water based undercoat and top coat has hardly any smell. Or you can use oil based undercoat and top coat, you would need to give it 2 oil undercoats then a top coat. You would have to wait a day inbeetween each coat as it will take a day to dry, and all oil based paint smells lol.
@Inexteriorstv thanks, so much for replying- so what is a water based undercoat and what is a oil based top coat? Examples? Is the zimmer 123 bin a water based undercoat? Could I use that then put dulux gloss on top?
The zinsser bin is shallac based, then use a water based undercoat then a water based gloss 2 coats. you could probably use the zinsser 123 as an undercoat, but make sure you use the zinsser bin first on the bare pine, 2 coats of bin would be even better just to make sure.
@Inexteriorstv ok Brill thanks so I will use zinser red tin 2 times after quick sanding of the wood. Can I not just go direct to dulux gloss after? Or does it have to be a water based topcoat ? I think the dulux gloss I have is water based....
@zoya5473 I would put the bullseye 123 before glossing, to give the gloss a good base, i put knotting on just to make sure, you dont have to the zinsser bin should take care of that. To be honest i am still learning about the zinsser products, they are good. Also you could do a sample and see what it looks like glossed on top of the zinseer bin. Let me know how you get on good luck.
Been looking for a video like this as the whole house, door frames, bannister, window sills need doing. All were varnished 32 years ago!
Thankyou very much watching.
B.I.N shellac is the only thing for varnish imo,it stops peeling and reduces chips.Other primers don't do this, especially on a staircase and trim.I have done a LOT of houses at this point, going from varnish back to white,also there is a lot of extra work like filling sap and knots also a lot of caulking.
It is good stuff, and it dries fast.
thanks for posting this. I want to paint some pine floorboards that have had one coat of matt varnish. The chap at the local decorating centre told me that I had to sand them back to bare wood before painting. I knew about BIN so I searched and found you. I will now proceed with a light sand, knotting, BIN, primer undercoat and then finish with eggshell/satin. The floor is in a shepherds hut which won'y get lots of foot traffic but is there a particular paint you would recommend for my top coats that is hard wearing? Thanks again and all the best 😎
Once you have put the zinsser bin on, don't stand on it for about 10 days or more depending on the drying conditions it takes a while to go fully hard, maybe the zinsser cover stain will be better for this job as you will be able to stand on it after a couple of days, it still takes about 7 days to fully harden. I just noticed that the bin was brittle for a for few days after it was applied and would not be good for standing on untill fully cured johstones Aqua undercoat and top coat, give 1 undercoat then 2 topcoat don't use the Aqua guard as that is for inside. Leave a good day in-between coats, then leave as long as possible before you put stuff in there as it takes a few weeks to fully harden bedec multi surface paint or the bedec barn paint is a good shout. You can give it 3 coats of that. Like you say it won't get lots of foot traffic. Maybe ask in brewers decorating center and see what floor paints they do. Let me know what you end up doing.
@@Inexteriors thank very much for the swift response. Did you mean aqua guard is for ‘outside’? Great advice on the BIN on a floor. Think I will use knotting then cover stain then a few coats of satin or eggshell but will also investigate paints with PU in which I’ve seen mentioned. Will certainly let you know what I do 👍🏻
Aqua guard is for inside of houses. Don't forget to use the undercoat first before top coats if using the johstones Aqua system.
Good video mate have a good bank holiday
@John Forsdyke . Thankyou Very much. Enjoy your bank holiday.
Great video. My house has (had) all brown varnished doors, skirtings, dados and staircase. I have had a painter and decorator in to paint all the woodwork white. I had 14 doors on my landing and he used a Johnstone's equivalent primer and sealer. I know he didn't sand down, as I suppose that would have cost a fortune for that many doors and woodwork., He read the label and it said it creates a really good bond, however, I only have to knock any of the doors or skirting for it to chip and I am often having to get the paint out to touch up the chipped bits, which is annoying. I am decorating one room at the moment on my own and have sanded down all the skirting boards and the door, so that will be interesting to see what happens when I have finished. I need to get a stain blocker and primer. You recommend the Zinser Bin, shellac version, but what do you think about the Zinsser 123, water based version. I don't want to get the wrong one. Your advice would be very helpful. Going to have to live with what the decorator did and he is a friend's husband, so can't really complain.....
The zinsser bin is a shellac based paint that dries fast and enables you to get on. and you can use water based undercoat and top coat, the 123 is water based and wont seal it, you can use oil based undercoat and top coat, it just means waiting a day beetween each coat.
Thank you for your prompt reply. Bin it is then 😊
Hi great video. I wanted to ask that when we paint over gloss varnish i have seen that the paint normally peals off after sometime therefore im really concerned before doing anything. Will not be easy to change rhe skirting boards and then paint. Please help me out as im not good at diy. Thank u
If you want to put new on and start afresh thats good, or follow these steps use a good durable paint and you will be fine.
@@Inexteriors thanks.
Hi Steven. Great Video. I have a varnished staircase that the wife want white gloss on instead. It that a wise move. Can I do this with the same method. Rub down, Zinzer, then gloss it?
Sorry for late reply, been on holiday, internet was poor. Zinsser bin, then undercoat and 2 top coats, if you are using water based paints.
Thank you for the video, so the Zinsser B-i-n Primer & Sealer is just a sealer, I want a white satin finish on my living room door, what is the best paint to use for the next step? Thank you.
i used farrow undercoat then top coat, also Johnston's aqua guard undercoat and top coat is a good choice.
@@Inexteriors Thank you so much and for the quick reply :)
Where are your "Happy Knees" Knee pads ? Handy video BTW. Thank you!.
I know lol.
Nice vid Steven 👍
@Orbitalforest . Thankyou Very much.
Thanks for this. I used Brewer’s Albany ‘Super’ Primer Undercoat over keyed varnished wood and then oil base Dulux Trade Eggshell. It has been cold and a bit damp but I can scratch the coatings off with my thumb nail? Have I made a mistake or do I just have to wait a few more days for it to cure? With many thanks, Alex
Wait at least 30 days, then scratch test again. it can take ages for paint to fully cure. Let me know the result in 30 days.
Whats your preffered waterbased primer/undercoat and also topcoat ?
Johstones Aqua guard system
Johstones Aqua systems the hybrid version.
Farrow and ball system.
Your skirting looks amazing. Ive just moved and i stripped the skirtings as they were a mess. Found varnish under all the gloss and a load of plaster. Its been so stressful. I stripped, sanded and used 2 coats of primer (never knew about zinzer) ive still to gloss. Have all my efforts been in vain without the zinzer?
just get some zinsser on them know then you will be fine, sometimes you have to go one step backwards to move forward again, make sure to get zinsser bin.
@@Inexteriors thanks I will get these skirtings done eventually. Its put me off stripping the rest of my skirtings even though they're a total mess. I can't afford to replace.
@@emmaleebarnes1376 you will get there in the end.
Hi, I’ve just painted a standard varnished fire door, it was well sanded down and dusted off. I’ve painted it with three coats of Zinser 123 and I am still getting yellow come through on the undercoat when I apply the gloss will the yellow still come through any help would be much appreciated.
Zinnser Bin is what you need not the 123.
Thanks very much for the quick reply, I will give that a try five more doors to do😂
get the Zinnser bin in the red tin it is shallac based it does smell for a little while and dry fast. so open your windows a bit.
Hello. Could you please give me your best advice on choosing the most durable water based for my wooden framed windows? Using 80 grit sandpaper I spent hours & days hand sanding x 4 wooden sash window frames. I sanded off old layers of yellowed gloss leaving behind a thin layer of gloss which I can now see the wood grain through. I now have trust issues finding the most durable water based paints for my interior. I want to be 100% sure I am choosing the right paint system so I don't have to re-do all my efforts ? I am new to water based paints. So how would I go about this ? Do I need to prime ? uncoat ? Please tell me the most professional trustworthy durable pants recommended with the longest lasting effect ? Regards Micheal
Bedec multi surface paint is a good one, so is the zinnser allcoat, but most say the bedec multi surface paint is better. there are others but these have really impressed me, i have only been playing with the water based paints for about 6 years to be honest.
@@Inexteriors Hey thanks for your advise. Yes I heard Bedec although I cannot get in any paint stores near me. I can try the Zisser allcoat even though Imany said Zisser it's like water and very thin . I see what primer workd best for Zisser
Try online for the bedec, or do you have a brewers near you. Let me know what you end up using. i found the allcoat good to be fair.
@@Inexteriors I keep running into Bedec as being the assured winner from professional painters. It will cost me twice as much with delivery but if it's trustworthy and I can reply I have the best durable paint. Bedec it is . For my doors I am using AG as I can buy it here. is it Bedec Multi-Surface Satin Paint ? I like to use Satin. is this the one ? I will try buy online.
@@bsfbestshortfilmsonyoutube
Yes it is bedec multi surface paint. why dont you use the same paint as the doors.
Hi Steven.
Very informative videos. I just wanted to get your opinion on the Zinsser BIN and cover stain please.
I painted some doors and architrave in our house. What I've found is that the paint has chipped slightly in a couple of places on the corners of both where the kids have hit off them with their toys. I've done all the proper prep work but I just thinking the Bin might be a bit brittle for areas that take knocks. My question is, what would you think of 1 coat of cover stain and 1 coat of Bin (for the knots) and then the undercoat and topcoat?
Would the cover stain be more hard wearing and help with paint chipping slightly at the corners, in your professional opinion?
Thankyou very much, to be honest i have never used the cover stain. i only started to use the zinsser products a couple of years ago. Zinsser bin i have used for water stains, exterior spot priming and covering varnish before undercoat and top coat.I think that any paint would chip jf hit hard enough, nothing is 100 percent. Also it does take at least 30 days for water based undercoats and top coats to fully harden. I did some reasearch on google here is what was said. Zinsser Cover Stain provides durability and adhesion on glossy glossy surfaces. It's especially good on raw wood or MDF removing the risk of swelling that you could get with the water based 123 primer. Zinsser BIN is the toughest with the highest adhesion although it does have the highest price tag.
@@Inexteriors Thanks for your reply Steven. Much appreciated.
Bin is good for stain blocking but not great in adhesion to varnish. It will always chip I'm afraid.
How soon should you take off the frog tape? When the paint is still slighly wet or fully dry?
I took this up when it was dry, if you have finished you can take it up when you want.
Hello, I have pine varnished doors, do I need to sand all the varnish off completely and then apply zinner
No, Just give a good once over.
@@Inexteriors thank you for replying
Can I just put an oil primar and oil based coat without the oil based under coat?
oil primer,oil undercoat. oil top coat. if bare wood. 2 oil undercoats, then 1 top coat, if varnished wood. the under coat is the key to providing a good base for the top coat.
@@Inexteriors amazing! Many thanks
find that aluminium primer is the best for all bare timber. bedec have got a new primer out called all primer does knots etc everything the shellack does but water based
That sounds great water basesd, zinsser have brought out a water based bin i see, i have never used aluminium primer.
@@Inexteriors The bedec all primer is like £30 cheaper for 5 litres and does more ferrous and non ferrous metal to and knots. aluminium primer is the bee's knees for all timber and old bitumen cresoste surfaces the best for knots also but we want a water based primer that can do everything make a better living
@@jackwardley3626 I will check it all out, You are loving the Bedec buddy. Thankyou for engaging with the channel.
Hi Steve, I've accidentally haphazardly got osmo polyx oil on primed mdf skirt boards (approx 6 months ago) how do you recommend I go about either removing this or going over it? Ta
Are the fully coated, or is i drips here and there.
@@Inexteriors its drips/paint brushes here and there. I've picked up some zinsser 123 bullseye. Will this cover it? Or am I better off trying methylated spirits to try remove it first?
To be honest i have never come across this situation, I would sand and try and remove the affected areas first then clean, i would then spot up with the zinsser bin, also you can try bedec multi surface paint. Please let me know how you get on, and how you sorted it.
did you use oil based or normal paint on the skirting board?
i used water based.
@@Inexteriors I assume that is just normal paint? Lol
@@raj080288 You get oil based and water based buddy.
@@Inexteriors thanks mate
Which paint glass or mat
it was farrow and ball estate eggshell.
Why did mine leak under the tape…I used light green tape..and pressed hard on the tape
what surface was you masking. did you go up tight to the skirting.
Hi Steve, love your videos, im a handyman and i have a job coming up and could do with your advise, i have to paint over a wallpapered wall that is stuck down well but i dont want the wallpaper pattern bleeding through the paint. Im going to use johnstones covaplus mixed in a light colour, i was thinking of using zinsser wallpaper coverup, but i read the reviews and people say it is really smelly, any advise please, plus what would you use on the ceiling, it is a through lounge, thanks Kevin
Thankyou very much. Try painting a test patch first to see how it covers, if the paper bleeds through the paint then use the zinsser wall paper cover up, if it all looks good then proceed with out using the zinsser wallpaper cover up. this video might help, i use Johnston's cover plus matt for most celings, also there is a johstones perfect matt that is very expensive. ua-cam.com/video/vIQcL9mJRrw/v-deo.html
Hi I'm still confused. We moved into a house where the previous owner has gone crazy with varnished pine everywhere lol
I need to paint the cladding in the kitchen white (it's presently varnished) and the bannisters.
I've got paint stripper and gloss dulux white paint. Will that do the job?
Or
Do I Sand, dust, then use Zimmer 123 stain killer and then the gloss on top? Sounds like a lot of work! Can't it be done alot more easier than that. I hate varnished and I'm 31 weeks pregnant. we need the house completed ASAP. Lol please help.
The zinsser bin is a shellac based paint used to block any staining or yellowing bleeding through the white top coat when using water based undercoat and top coat, The advantage being it all dries fast, the bin does smell a bit, but not for long, the water based undercoat and top coat has hardly any smell. Or you can use oil based undercoat and top coat, you would need to give it 2 oil undercoats then a top coat. You would have to wait a day inbeetween each coat as it will take a day to dry, and all oil based paint smells lol.
@Inexteriorstv thanks, so much for replying- so what is a water based undercoat and what is a oil based top coat? Examples? Is the zimmer 123 bin a water based undercoat? Could I use that then put dulux gloss on top?
The zinsser bin is shallac based, then use a water based undercoat then a water based gloss 2 coats. you could probably use the zinsser 123 as an undercoat, but make sure you use the zinsser bin first on the bare pine, 2 coats of bin would be even better just to make sure.
@Inexteriorstv ok Brill thanks so I will use zinser red tin 2 times after quick sanding of the wood. Can I not just go direct to dulux gloss after? Or does it have to be a water based topcoat ? I think the dulux gloss I have is water based....
@zoya5473 I would put the bullseye 123 before glossing, to give the gloss a good base, i put knotting on just to make sure, you dont have to the zinsser bin should take care of that. To be honest i am still learning about the zinsser products, they are good. Also you could do a sample and see what it looks like glossed on top of the zinseer bin. Let me know how you get on good luck.
Dodgy looking electrical socket there
The cleaned up well lol.