"When she was told that its [Smells Like Teen Spirit] author, Kurt Cobain, used to play it [her cover of it] every morning full blast, Amos was gratified. "That means a lot to me," she says from Washington on the eve of a 110-show U.S. tour. "What a great talent," she says of Cobain. " Err, Kurt was a fan of her cover...
Mohaine wow how original of an opinion. Your giving the 'my generation is the best because...' attitude a real new spin. Sadly people with opinions as unreflected as yours dont see how a statement like that is total bs. Hopfeully your getting something going for you besides being born in a certein generation
hayley s idk what your talking about this is my opinon and i stand for it in the internet as i do in real life. This hating on the next generation of kids and praising your own goes as far back as to the times of sokrates. Its not original and just false. Learn to differentiate between your own feelings and facts.
hayley s and btw the core statement is just unreflected and shitty, that was my point. His comment would mean that she only understood it because she was born in a certain gneration. Wich would mean that everyone born in that generation would understand nirvana simply because of the time they were born in....wich is obviously wrong? And why would i need to hide behind a keyboard im a grown man, i would love to hear what he has to say and why his gneration is so much harder and more understanding of music history than the others
I can't believe so many people have so much negativity towards Tori honoring a man, a song and her interpretation of his ideal. She is an artist as he was and like she says, "I was very clearv that that (SLTK) was their baby, but she (SLTS) just hung out with me for a while". She never meant to disrespect, merely make visible another facet of the song. I think it's a beautiful version and beautiful interview.
"... felt that, through his vision and his music, he stood for something- he paved a way that now were starving for..." That line says it all, and it still speaks for what is going on in today's time and culture, music has become trash, lost almost all feelings of emotion, and spirit, real passion, raw honesty, and beauty, same with everything else~ Someone needs to bring it back, another Kurt~
+Shelley Cline you've misinterpreted what Kurt meant; he was very humble and also quite an anxious guy. Take this as his admission that he liked the song as opposed to how it might be interpreted from somebody without anxieties saying it, if that makes sense.
Tori is a genius, and so was Kurt, in his own way....She has the ability to pull back the layers of a song, and infuse it with her own magic and reverence. I don't know of many other artists who are as powerful as she. I was, and still am blown away by her cover of this song. Tori does amazing, well thought out work of her own, but when she does a cover, she puts her stamp on it. Like it or not, she breaks the 'rules' and makes her own. And many of us love her for it. So don't hate.
Wow. I’ve never heard her speak about this before. I was so happy when she did this cover. Tori is an incredible performer, don’t anybody dare diss this beautiful babe. And then the passing of Kurt was pretty earth shattering - this precious tune was a part of the healing process. So good. I loved this commentary. Wow.
She is so gorgeous, and her voice is so sweet! Yeah, kinda wish it was she who hooked up with Kurt instead, but you have to wonder, would she have been able to put up with all his shit? not that Courtney Love had any success in that department in my opinion....
Wow... this is an awesome interview. I don't really know much about Tori Amos but she gave some really thoughtful insight on the meaning of her music and Nirvana's. I'm definitely gonna check her out now.
In an interview, he said he liked this version a lot, He laughed sweetly and said it served a purpose and that they did a little dance to it at the opening of a live performance, And then he said in a serious tone: It was nice, yeah. --Source ua-cam.com/video/G8dBxLGTM10/v-deo.html -- 1:30 about Tori Amos cover.
It's funny I didn't realize just how special my generation was I'm 43 now and I look back and i see how much of a impact the 90s or grunge era as I've heard it called had on the world
if you dig onto his lyrics deep enough youll see that he was actually singing about how the goverment was planning to fly planes into buildings (it was a joke to all you who have no scence of sarcasm)
I also feel it's good when an artist (like Tori) can take a song from a band (like Nirvana) and bring it to a fresh, new audience that might not have looked at it closer/deeply to begin with&appreciate its strength. This song was never going to be outdone because it was a statement/landmark for its time. But many classics have been covered over the years and this just proved that Nirvana was such a great lyrical band. I consider this a good footnote to a musical story that sadly closed too soon.
if Kurt was with Tori...i think he would still be here today.....48 hours before Kurt killed himself,Courtney told him he had dropped the baby on her head.....and she said, she never saw a look like that before came over kurt's face "emptiness"....why would you tell somebody that.... in a rehab place..when your trying to clean your self up...the only time i would say that if he was going to relapse...to keep him from using.
Tori Understood Kurt Cobain and Appreciated Him. Tori is a Great Artist in her own Right! Tori should also be Appreciated! I Love Kurt Cobain Too! This was Lovely. Thanks.
@philliesguy kurt actually said in a interview (since she did the cover before he died) he said that he would listen to her cover everday he loved it so much
MTV: What did you think of the Tori Amos cover of "Smells Like Teen Spirit" KC: Flattering MTV: Is it true that you and Courtney Love used to wake up and dance around to it? KC: Yeah. We used to put it on every morning and have breakfast and dance around. We'd turn it up really loud and do interpretive dancing to it. It's good breakfast music. MTV: It's funny to listen to. The mulatto and albino part. KC: "I'm mulatto." I know. For a while we were using it as an opener before we came out onstage
When I first thought of Tori Amos or any other softer musician doing a cover on this song, which has had a very strong personal resonance for me, I was a little skeptical, but now I understand that she seems to have been treating the song for what it was, and to have understood how it touched other people. I think her analysis is intelligent and sensitive, and I understand now.
tori amos' version is a big credit to kurt cobain because it shows what a great composer he was and how it can still sound good whether it is blasted with guitars or sung with a piano. =]
But didn't Kurt really love this cover? He was nice to so many up and comers including Shonen Knife it's hard to think of him as any less than a genius who could see genius. It's so sad he died so young. He had already influenced a generation of musicians, including me, and who knows how many he could have influenced. Rest In Peace, Kurt. We love you.
@encrustanail thanks for giving it a chance. If you read further into the thread to page 14 you see where they track Cobain to Calgary , Alberta in 1986 and it correlates with the original story. It is an interesting read to say the least.
@CouganSmith: Apparently Unplugged wasn't all that death-like if I didn't notice. There were dark aspects to Kurt's music but it transcended the darkness, one of the great things about it.
The greatness of a song is in the variety of interpretation to which a given song lends itself. Tori Amos version, Paul Anka's version of SLTS...they all are awesome because the song itself is awesome - not only Nirvana's performance of the song. The song shouldn't be set in stone; it should breathe. Tori's version is awesome, as is Paul Anka's (for different reasons), as is the original. It's contagious!
@TheCMKXer apparently you've never heard the original smells like teen spirit recorded on a cassette tape before Bleach later released on With the Lights Out box set. The lyrics written by Kurt actually made sense but were later changed for no apparent reason to the public knowledge when recorded at Geffen Records for Nevermind
@TwoPointsUp He was given the lyrics to Teen Spirit in 1986 when he was traveling with the Melvins, before he even formed Nirvana.He was a groupie of the band& went with them on their tour to Calgary, & they made a stopover in Banff, and the writer of the lyrics spotted them with guitars& gave Cobain the lyrics.5yrs. later he recorded the song
Wow, amazing how well she pulls off so many different songs, she is varied in her great talents. No wonder she still has so many fans after all these years, even her fans are a diverse range, black and white, male and female, gay and normal. She'll be entertaining us for many years yet. :)
the lyrics were given to him in 1986, he put it to the riff from More That a Feeling by Boston,but decided to do his own stuff instead when he put out Bleach, with one cover of another band(Lovebuzz)&then got a bigger deal with Geffen for a followup album.He needed new material fast, tried to rewrite the Smells Like Teen Spirit lyrics, but gave up likelybecause he thought the original lyrics might be a hit, & did them with only a few changes later on Nevermind,&named it Smells Like Teen Spirit
@pablost07 where did you hear that Kurt said that? I have heard this rumor a few times that Cobain joked that Tori Amos had written it. Please try to remember where you first heard that, or find out where it came from. It is important.
@TheCMKXer or possibly his lyrics were based off the melvins one but then changed back for nevermind. Other than that all of his songs were written by him
@PullingTeeth1 Smells Like Teen was based on More than a Feeling. Cobain was given the lyrics and whole song concept for Smells Like Teen Spirit in 1986, including the suggestion that he morph the main riff from More than a Feeling & use the quiet to loud to quiet to loud song structure. The bullshit about the Pixies etc. was all Cobain building his 'alternative' following. He was a Boston fan and owned the album with More than a Feeling on it.
people seriously need to re-evaluate their definitions of a "good cover" if they have anything negative to say about this one. this is probably one of the most exceptional covers ever recorded because tori showcases kurt's lyrics, which were so criminally underrated and almost ignored.
Tori has such a soothing voice. It's lovely! Her version is more... Like she said, it's more ripped apart. Kurt's is angry and confrontational, and therefore they are two different songs, just with the same lyrics. I love both!
I agree with this, I actually think "Dumb" is my favorite song by them overall. "Heart-Shaped Box" is just brilliant. It's just a completely different album.
Cobain was given the lyrics in 1986 , made up the music for it based on the suggested friff and song structure from More than A Feeling by Boston, and when he needed new songs for NEvermind tried to create new lyrics while keeping parts of the lyrics that were given to him, jammed on it, tried to rewrite the song in a notebook, and gave up trying to rewrite it. In the end he changed only 4 of the words from what was originally GIVEN to him in 1986.
@ehbseedy I have read it and I agree with you. He didn't accuse Cobain of stealing the lyrics, he lauded Cobain for having the courage to do the song. It is not 'contrived, fabricated, unsubstantiated' etc. It still has not been debunked, and some of the detractors there are absolutely mad.
@TwoPointsUp Cobain is the one who wrote 'About a Girl', but he is dead so we can't ask him what he was thinking when he wrote it. THe real writer of the lyrics to Smells Like Teen Spirit and Come As You Are is still alive and he thoroughly explained the meaning of those songs.
From Wikipedia: "One of the first cover recordings was an acoustic piano version by Tori Amos on her 1992 Crucify EP, which Cobain referred to as "a great breakfast cereal version"."
@DreaminMyLifeAway yes, it is really true that Cobain did not write the lyrics to Smells Like Teen Spirit . He changed only four of the words from what the original writer gave to him. Do an internet search on 'the true story behind the lyrics to Smells Like Teen Spirit.' You will find the link.
@TheCMKXer I know he didn't right love buzz it says so on the back of the album Bleach. But I find it hard to beleive he didn't right come as you are though due to some of the word choice. Wait is come as you are the one you said he changed some? Also love buzz was actually a cover song of another bands. Can't remember who though...
@JGFowler121 Listen, yes Cobain used random words for many songs but not for all of them. He was constantly writing in diaries and on pieces of paper as well as writing music. The random words do not give the song an objective or a point persay but some lines often DID mean something. Also, any psychologist or psychiatrist could tell you that his words did indeed reflect what he has feeling. Were they random? Yes. But he wrote those specific words amongst tens of thousands of possibilities.
nicely put man..if she wanted to analyze kurt's music she should analyze the ones in nirvana's early albums..kurt hated "smells" coz it became too commercialized..
@iamcosmichands its a put-on, this is her in her younger days, trying to put on airs and make waves in the artsy-fartsy world of make-believe that she aspired to.
@ehbseedy Where in the song does it indicate that his rage has any exclusivity to being male? Also I doubt someone else wrote the lyrics. It's 100% his (brilliant) writing style, I looked it up and read the forum post. A lotta effort there. But still, I doubt it. There's plenty of reasons he could've resented that song. I highly doubt stolen lyrics is one of them tho.
i have a question for many of you.. How many of you were around when this was what was going on? how many felt an absence when kurt died? I know that i did. if the members of NIRVANA have not spoken agains tori who are you to do so. have your thougths but know that they are not the only ones that matter. tori was performing at the same time the NIRVANA was huge so if she was allowed to cover the song what does that say?
Agreed. Especially from Scarlet's Walk onwards, there are more poppy elements, but she's definitely above pop, and even alternative. Not enough guitars for indies to get her.
I agree with you dude but you can't deny that Smells was an interplanetary hit - maybe the biggest rock song of the past 20 years, so there's gotta be something beyond the fact that it's just a catchy song. The lyrics have never had an effect on me but I enjoyed Tori's take on it. This song's so successful, a lot of people must have read into this song's lyrics more than you or I have. And if it means something deep to them: then cool, so be it. ;)
@encrustanail No, Cobain did not write the lyrics to Smells Like Teen Spirit. Look up 'The true story behind the lyrics to Smells Like Teen Spirit' Cobain hated Smells Like Teen Spirit. He was given the lyrics in 1986, tried to rewrite the lyrics a few times, gave up, and recorded the lyrics given to him with only a couple of tiny changes.
"When she was told that its [Smells Like Teen Spirit] author, Kurt Cobain, used to play it [her cover of it] every morning full blast, Amos was gratified. "That means a lot to me," she says from Washington on the eve of a 110-show U.S. tour. "What a great talent," she says of Cobain. "
Err, Kurt was a fan of her cover...
Tori's voice is so soothing. I would like to peer into her mind for a day. Might be a bit crazy, but enjoyable all the same.
Tori understood Nirvana, because she belongs to the same generation. A generation that wasn't coddled.
Mohaine wow how original of an opinion. Your giving the 'my generation is the best because...' attitude a real new spin. Sadly people with opinions as unreflected as yours dont see how a statement like that is total bs. Hopfeully your getting something going for you besides being born in a certein generation
hayley s idk what your talking about this is my opinon and i stand for it in the internet as i do in real life. This hating on the next generation of kids and praising your own goes as far back as to the times of sokrates. Its not original and just false. Learn to differentiate between your own feelings and facts.
hayley s and btw the core statement is just unreflected and shitty, that was my point. His comment would mean that she only understood it because she was born in a certain gneration. Wich would mean that everyone born in that generation would understand nirvana simply because of the time they were born in....wich is obviously wrong? And why would i need to hide behind a keyboard im a grown man, i would love to hear what he has to say and why his gneration is so much harder and more understanding of music history than the others
That's funny because Kurt was a actually from a very well off family lmao
@@Shzopild. oh good lord you got this excited about telling a guy off for talking about generations? Shut the ever loving fuck up.
I love both versions, hers evokes pain, his anger. both are a gift
I can't believe so many people have so much negativity towards Tori honoring a man, a song and her interpretation of his ideal.
She is an artist as he was and like she says, "I was very clearv that that (SLTK) was their baby, but she (SLTS) just hung out with me for a while".
She never meant to disrespect, merely make visible another facet of the song.
I think it's a beautiful version and beautiful interview.
what is SLTK?
I actually think everyone loved her version
Her voice is pure hypnosis, her eyes are captivating, her hair is gorgeous....I fucking love Tori Amos
"... felt that, through his vision and his music, he stood for something- he paved a way that now were starving for..."
That line says it all, and it still speaks for what is going on in today's time and culture, music has become trash, lost almost all feelings of emotion, and spirit, real passion, raw honesty, and beauty, same with everything else~
Someone needs to bring it back, another Kurt~
Wow, she has such a relaxing speaking voice!
love her voice
Kurt would have loved her version. Every extreme metaller I know is into Tori Amos.
he did love this version, he said so in an interview
extreme metaller?
I'm one. Tori is more metal than a lot of bands...off the top of my head, Black Veil Brides.
+Shelley Cline you've misinterpreted what Kurt meant; he was very humble and also quite an anxious guy. Take this as his admission that he liked the song as opposed to how it might be interpreted from somebody without anxieties saying it, if that makes sense.
TheHypernaught about it, he laughed and said it was "nice". Didn't appear to care that much about it really.
Tori is a genius, and so was Kurt, in his own way....She has the ability to pull back the layers of a song, and infuse it with her own magic and reverence. I don't know of many other artists who are as powerful as she. I was, and still am blown away by her cover of this song. Tori does amazing, well thought out work of her own, but when she does a cover, she puts her stamp on it. Like it or not, she breaks the 'rules' and makes her own. And many of us love her for it. So don't hate.
Wow. I’ve never heard her speak about this before. I was so happy when she did this cover. Tori is an incredible performer, don’t anybody dare diss this beautiful babe. And then the passing of Kurt was pretty earth shattering - this precious tune was a part of the healing process. So good. I loved this commentary. Wow.
She is so gorgeous, and her voice is so sweet!
Yeah, kinda wish it was she who hooked up with Kurt instead, but you have to wonder, would she have been able to put up with all his shit? not that Courtney Love had any success in that department in my opinion....
So the women are supposed to put up with his shit while he shouldnt hav to put up with courtneys shit?
omg im gonna cry, she speaks with such a lovely way for cobain........
Rip dude!!!
I could listen to her version of this song all day and never get tired of it.
its a great cover man!!! :D lots of passion and emotion.
she has the most relaxing voice ive ever heard ... wow
Gosh , I love her voice , it's very .... hypnotizing and mesmerizing ..
Wow... this is an awesome interview. I don't really know much about Tori Amos but she gave some really thoughtful insight on the meaning of her music and Nirvana's. I'm definitely gonna check her out now.
i love this woman
She knew Courtney was behind Kurt's death.
And Professional Widow was born.
She’s not holding the rifle on the cover of Pele by accident. It was sending a certain someone a message.
Beautiful thank you Tori
In an interview, he said he liked this version a lot,
He laughed sweetly and said it served a purpose and that they did a little dance to it at the opening of a live performance,
And then he said in a serious tone: It was nice, yeah.
--Source ua-cam.com/video/G8dBxLGTM10/v-deo.html
-- 1:30 about Tori Amos cover.
Thank you referencing that.
It's funny I didn't realize just how special my generation was I'm 43 now and I look back and i see how much of a impact the 90s or grunge era as I've heard it called had on the world
Her version is better :P
if you dig onto his lyrics deep enough youll see that he was actually singing about how the goverment was planning to fly planes into buildings
(it was a joke to all you who have no scence of sarcasm)
I also feel it's good when an artist (like Tori) can take a song from a band (like Nirvana) and bring it to a fresh, new audience that might not have looked at it closer/deeply to begin with&appreciate its strength. This song was never going to be outdone because it was a statement/landmark for its time. But many classics have been covered over the years and this just proved that Nirvana was such a great lyrical band. I consider this a good footnote to a musical story that sadly closed too soon.
The band opened their '92 european shows with Amos' cover played on the PA.
Great version, and Tori Amos is a great artist.
if Kurt was with Tori...i think he would still be here today.....48 hours before Kurt killed himself,Courtney told him he had dropped the baby on her head.....and she said, she never saw a look like that before came over kurt's face "emptiness"....why would you tell somebody that.... in a rehab place..when your trying to clean your self up...the only time i would say that if he was going to relapse...to keep him from using.
kurt didnt kill himself.. he was killed
He was a loser
Courtney lied about him dropping the baby - she never went to see him in rehab.
Smells like hostess of New Age meditation program on public access channel.
Liz R Ahah best comment, so true.
Wow..what a beautiful woman and very well spoke and well put on this topic.
Tori Understood Kurt Cobain and Appreciated Him. Tori is a Great Artist in her own Right! Tori should also be Appreciated! I Love Kurt Cobain Too! This was Lovely. Thanks.
Smells like Tori Amos needs a glass of water.
Teen Spirit is a fucking song about a deodorant. Or is it?
No lol. Kurt didnt even know it was a deodorant until months after the song was released.
Coming from a die-hard Kurt fan... that was a suprisingly insightful and well-put interview... I think I might check me out some Tori Amos. :)
@philliesguy kurt actually said in a interview (since she did the cover before he died) he said that he would listen to her cover everday he loved it so much
Thank god the video ended JUST before Charles Cross was about to speak. Anyway, my respect for Tori Amos has just buzzed up by a million.
brilliant.
she's so beautifully articulate, and she really shows her opinion intellectually. I love this interpretation!
her voice is so soothing.
MTV: What did you think of the Tori Amos cover of "Smells Like Teen Spirit"
KC: Flattering
MTV: Is it true that you and Courtney Love used to wake up and dance around to it?
KC: Yeah. We used to put it on every morning and have breakfast and dance around. We'd turn it up really loud and do interpretive dancing to it. It's good breakfast music.
MTV: It's funny to listen to. The mulatto and albino part.
KC: "I'm mulatto." I know. For a while we were using it as an opener before we came out onstage
When I first thought of Tori Amos or any other softer musician doing a cover on this song, which has had a very strong personal resonance for me, I was a little skeptical, but now I understand that she seems to have been treating the song for what it was, and to have understood how it touched other people. I think her analysis is intelligent and sensitive, and I understand now.
tori amos' version is a big credit to kurt cobain because it shows what a great composer he was and how it can still sound good whether it is blasted with guitars or sung with a piano. =]
it's respectful and beautiful. tori has great compassion. LISTEN TO WHAT SHE SAYS!
But didn't Kurt really love this cover? He was nice to so many up and comers including Shonen Knife it's hard to think of him as any less than a genius who could see genius. It's so sad he died so young. He had already influenced a generation of musicians, including me, and who knows how many he could have influenced. Rest In Peace, Kurt. We love you.
tori is amazing! love her
Always loved her cover but never really understood the meaning behind the tone until now which makes me love it even more
@encrustanail thanks for giving it a chance. If you read further into the thread to page 14 you see where they track Cobain to Calgary , Alberta in 1986 and it correlates with the original story. It is an interesting read to say the least.
@pablost07 where did you hear that.? try to remember because it is important. If you can please try to find out where that was published or written.
The way she talks is so soothing
her voice is so soothing! thats crazy!
@CouganSmith: Apparently Unplugged wasn't all that death-like if I didn't notice. There were dark aspects to Kurt's music but it transcended the darkness, one of the great things about it.
@Pumpkingilmour ...Where did you hear that from?? as far as I know he just jotted the lyrics down right before recording the tune.
The greatness of a song is in the variety of interpretation to which a given song lends itself. Tori Amos version, Paul Anka's version of SLTS...they all are awesome because the song itself is awesome - not only Nirvana's performance of the song. The song shouldn't be set in stone; it should breathe. Tori's version is awesome, as is Paul Anka's (for different reasons), as is the original.
It's contagious!
i'll bring it back,
and i loved what she has to say.
@TheCMKXer apparently you've never heard the original smells like teen spirit recorded on a cassette tape before Bleach later released on With the Lights Out box set. The lyrics written by Kurt actually made sense but were later changed for no apparent reason to the public knowledge when recorded at Geffen Records for Nevermind
@TwoPointsUp He was given the lyrics to Teen Spirit in 1986 when he was traveling with the Melvins, before he even formed Nirvana.He was a groupie of the band& went with them on their tour to Calgary, & they made a stopover in Banff, and the writer of the lyrics spotted them with guitars& gave Cobain the lyrics.5yrs. later he recorded the song
She speaks like she sings. Giving every word using inflection to make her thoughts clear.
@OzKnosis He has the rough drafts to the lyrics in his journals, buy them.. He may not have written Come As You Are, but he did write teen spirit...
anyone knows where can I get the full documentary?
She has one of the best voices and faces and damn....just wow.
Wow, amazing how well she pulls off so many different songs, she is varied in her great talents.
No wonder she still has so many fans after all these years, even her fans are a diverse range, black and white, male and female, gay and normal. She'll be entertaining us for many years yet.
:)
the lyrics were given to him in 1986, he put it to the riff from More That a Feeling by Boston,but decided to do his own stuff instead when he put out Bleach, with one cover of another band(Lovebuzz)&then got a bigger deal with Geffen for a followup album.He needed new material fast, tried to rewrite the Smells Like Teen Spirit lyrics, but gave up likelybecause he thought the original lyrics might be a hit, & did them with only a few changes later on Nevermind,&named it Smells Like Teen Spirit
@pablost07 where did you hear that Kurt said that? I have heard this rumor a few times that Cobain joked that Tori Amos had written it. Please try to remember where you first heard that, or find out where it came from. It is important.
amazing cover she made
@TheCMKXer or possibly his lyrics were based off the melvins one but then changed back for nevermind. Other than that all of his songs were written by him
@PullingTeeth1 Smells Like Teen was based on More than a Feeling. Cobain was given the lyrics and whole song concept for Smells Like Teen Spirit in 1986, including the suggestion that he morph the main riff from More than a Feeling & use the quiet to loud to quiet to loud song structure. The bullshit about the Pixies etc. was all Cobain building his 'alternative' following. He was a Boston fan and owned the album with More than a Feeling on it.
people seriously need to re-evaluate their definitions of a "good cover" if they have anything negative to say about this one. this is probably one of the most exceptional covers ever recorded because tori showcases kurt's lyrics, which were so criminally underrated and almost ignored.
Amos' cover of "Smells Like Teen Spirit" is so...her. She sure knows how to turn a rock song into a soft mellow one. I love her!
Tori has such a soothing voice. It's lovely!
Her version is more... Like she said, it's more ripped apart. Kurt's is angry and confrontational, and therefore they are two different songs, just with the same lyrics. I love both!
I agree with this, I actually think "Dumb" is my favorite song by them overall. "Heart-Shaped Box" is just brilliant. It's just a completely different album.
Cobain was given the lyrics in 1986 , made up the music for it based on the suggested friff and song structure from More than A Feeling by Boston, and when he needed new songs for NEvermind tried to create new lyrics while keeping parts of the lyrics that were given to him, jammed on it, tried to rewrite the song in a notebook, and gave up trying to rewrite it. In the end he changed only 4 of the words from what was originally GIVEN to him in 1986.
exelente punto de vista =) !!
@OzKnosis
Would be great if you could show us your source
@ehbseedy I have read it and I agree with you. He didn't accuse Cobain of stealing the lyrics, he lauded Cobain for having the courage to do the song. It is not 'contrived, fabricated, unsubstantiated' etc. It still has not been debunked,
and some of the detractors there are absolutely mad.
Hey i remember you, I used to watch your public access show every once in a while when i lived in Seattle. Do you still have it?
@TwoPointsUp Cobain is the one who wrote 'About a Girl', but he is dead so we can't ask him what he was thinking when he wrote it. THe real writer of the lyrics to Smells Like Teen Spirit and Come As You Are is still alive and he thoroughly explained the meaning of those songs.
From Wikipedia:
"One of the first cover recordings was an acoustic piano version by Tori Amos on her 1992 Crucify EP, which Cobain referred to as "a great breakfast cereal version"."
Classic Tori. You can actually see her weighing every word before it comes out of her mouth. I love this woman.
@OzKnosis he did write the lyrics. the title he got from kathleen hanna. but he wrote the lyrics.
@DreaminMyLifeAway yes, it is really true that Cobain did not write the lyrics to Smells Like Teen Spirit . He changed only four of the words from what the original writer gave to him. Do an internet search on 'the true story behind the lyrics to Smells Like Teen Spirit.' You will find the link.
@TheCMKXer
I know he didn't right love buzz it says so on the back of the album Bleach. But I find it hard to beleive he didn't right come as you are though due to some of the word choice. Wait is come as you are the one you said he changed some? Also love buzz was actually a cover song of another bands. Can't remember who though...
So true.Tori Amos is lovely.=]
so send a direct link to it
@JGFowler121
Listen, yes Cobain used random words for many songs but not for all of them. He was constantly writing in diaries and on pieces of paper as well as writing music. The random words do not give the song an objective or a point persay but some lines often DID mean something. Also, any psychologist or psychiatrist could tell you that his words did indeed reflect what he has feeling. Were they random? Yes. But he wrote those specific words amongst tens of thousands of possibilities.
@moonbreath1 Did I? Explain? What does the song mean in your opinion?
nicely put man..if she wanted to analyze kurt's music she should analyze the ones in nirvana's early albums..kurt hated "smells" coz it became too commercialized..
I fell into a peaceful and deep sleep after hearing her voice...
good point
yeah I don't even know what to "call" her? any ideas?
Right on Tori, right on.
@iamcosmichands its a put-on, this is her in her younger days, trying to put on airs and make waves in the artsy-fartsy world of make-believe that she aspired to.
Shes a beautiful soul
@ehbseedy Where in the song does it indicate that his rage has any exclusivity to being male? Also I doubt someone else wrote the lyrics. It's 100% his (brilliant) writing style, I looked it up and read the forum post. A lotta effort there. But still, I doubt it. There's plenty of reasons he could've resented that song. I highly doubt stolen lyrics is one of them tho.
i have a question for many of you.. How many of you were around when this was what was going on? how many felt an absence when kurt died? I know that i did. if the members of NIRVANA have not spoken agains tori who are you to do so. have your thougths but know that they are not the only ones that matter. tori was performing at the same time the NIRVANA was huge so if she was allowed to cover the song what does that say?
Agreed. Especially from Scarlet's Walk onwards, there are more poppy elements, but she's definitely above pop, and even alternative. Not enough guitars for indies to get her.
It is interesting to note that Tori Amos and Kurt Cobain were born in the same year, the year of the Goat.
Who is that guy there who was talking about Kurt?
I agree with you dude but you can't deny that Smells was an interplanetary hit - maybe the biggest rock song of the past 20 years, so there's gotta be something beyond the fact that it's just a catchy song. The lyrics have never had an effect on me but I enjoyed Tori's take on it. This song's so successful, a lot of people must have read into this song's lyrics more than you or I have. And if it means something deep to them: then cool, so be it. ;)
@encrustanail No, Cobain did not write the lyrics to Smells Like Teen Spirit.
Look up 'The true story behind the lyrics to Smells Like Teen Spirit'
Cobain hated Smells Like Teen Spirit. He was given the lyrics in 1986, tried to rewrite the lyrics a few times, gave up, and recorded the lyrics given to him with only a couple of tiny changes.
Yes!