Elinelise is great. She starts off as a one-dimensional character, and shows more depth as the story goes on. Cant wait till they show more of her motherly/adviser side.
I’m glad to see you back again I’ve missed your content and now I gotta catch up on new season 😊. your ODT is prolly still my fav. I hope more get exposed to it from UA-cam algorithm god lol
Like how Mushoku Tensei can take fanservice moments and add depth to them. As much as I say Cliff pulled Elinalise is legendary, it is also sweet how wholesome it is.
The twitter puritain types only sell Elinalise's situation better. Imagine she was living in a village full of people like that and you'd see why she gets her kids set up and then moves on. She's probably the best fan service kind of character Ive seen done in a story, i remember kojima responding to people who said quiet was just a T&A character by saying there was a good story based reason why she was half naked but in the end it was just that she can breathe through her skin IIRC.
Dang..in that case Elinalise is literally a GILF 😏. But, I like how her curse makes her a tragic character. Mushoku Tensei does a great job at subverting expectations, taking typical comedic tropes, and giving them deep meaning in the narrative. Love your dress too! 😊
Love just listening even if I already know the spoilers. Well-presented content and Natalie's voice is just one of those soothing voices I could listen to for hours. (Yes, learned that from experience.)
I love Elinalise. The depth of her story is told over time in the main story. She and Rudy have a great relationship though not sexual. I wish they would anime Old Dragon's Tale in the future.
Elianealise belongs in the streets.... But she also belongs in a nice lively house filled with kids, love and headpats. Sometimes the streets need someone to make 'em more happy and lively, ya know?
Actually if anything she'd age slower than a human, so as a child wouldn't be older than she looked like Roxy, but the groomer nonsense is dumb anyway... Rudeus doesn't see her for ten years and doesn't even recognize her when he does, so how was he grooming her during that period? If people believe that they'd have to also concede that Roxy groomed him!
@@NatalieXHunter exactly, but my point was fact that people that decry such rubbish haven’t read or watched any part of it and don’t have a clue about the lore on any level and see everything based on their social norms and values. Don’t see that because Elves age differently actually years in physical looks/age will not match mental and emotional age on any level. But they are to blind to even identify that and only look at how characters look. While at same time if Rudy went after someone his mental age like Ghislane etc would scream the opposite that they where grooming him. They don’t have the critical thinking skills to not just reee.
People need to stop saying rudy is 40 something so he should know better he is a 15 year old adult now he left his old life behind so the grooming shit always been stupid to me
First I've ever heard of people saying that. Normally all I see is people screeching about how rudy is a "bad" person because of how he was at the start of the series.
Grooming is when an adult has a romantic relationship with a minor, but hangs around them waiting for them to turn of age to manipulate them into a physical relationship. Rudy hasn't been around Sylphy for about a decade, in the LN says he doesn't have romantic feeling for her, and she makes all the moves when they reunite. Even if you take Rudy's memories as irrefutable proof that he's an adult, this is still nowhere near grooming. Personally, with stunted emotional growth and living in a child's body, I see Rudy's "age" as a gray area where in some ways he's full grown and in others, he's never reached adulthood
Rudeus is already died so it doesn't make sense to count him as an adult unless what counts is mental age so in that case no one should have any reason to be mad at lolis thousands of years old
@luksalter8200 I've heard people say that anything making someone an adult counts. Emotional, mental, physical, etc. I assume if that's their logic that the reverse is true. I personally don't ascribe to that line of thought. In the real world, adult women are often petite or young looking. They're adults and finding them attractive is not pedophilia. Fiction is something I care even less about when moral issues are concerned
Yeah, you're right, it's been a while since I read that part, but he does get pretty much raised with Lucy, because Lucy was quite normal and Lara was strange...
It always break my heart Elinalise's relationship with her sons and daughters, I wish people would see her for the great character that she is instead of just horny bait or something
Sylphy is the main character in this series that kept me into the series when I was reading the LN. she very much is the glue to holds everything togeather
hello following your video I started reading mushoku tensei but I'm stuck, I can't find where to read volume 25 whether it's in English or Japanese, since you know a lot about it I think you will. have already read so do you have a solution please?
i can't keep all of the names straight. These interconnections are so confusing to me. I feel bad for her, I would think she would prefer to be with her family if not for the curse, even if she does enjoy the sex.
I do like Elinalise, i really like her personality and the fact that while she does need to receive her vitamins she always care for others, trying to not make things bad for people and even giving up the chance to be with her kids jsut so that they won't suffer in the future. She deserves to be happy, fortunatelly she fould Cliff, the man with the most amount of stamina in the entire kingdom, i hope the anime doesn't skip too much of their relationship. TL;DR: Elinalise isn't an "Ara Ara MILF", she is THE "Ara Ara MILF" XD
Might need to rewatch this or another video you made but her curse helps her amass wealth ? how?. Edit: I rewatched so she spawns magic crystals from her body after getting fertilized that can be sell for a lot of money, like if they were some kind kidney stones but I assume not that painful, and not sure if coming out from another place. In a twisted way you can say Elinalise is breeding a lot of Mushoku Tensei side characters and some main characters. I wonder how they can always tell whose offspring comes from what father with all her jumping arround men, hope there is no paternity fraud implied lmao.
I think Fitz might be one of her descendants as well. His rizz, beauty and infinite intellect could come from nowhere else. Kinda sad to see that he might be related to Sylphy, though. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
@@Skepticalraven I erased episode 0 from my brain by sticking a toothpick real far up my nose and wiggling it around a little (works every time) because there was something in it I refuse to accept. Anyway Sylph cringe Fitz based Sylph stupid Fitz smart Sylph's a Lisa Fitz a Bart.
Ah. My favourite isekais (Mushoku Tensei and Kumodesu) share the feature that they have a character who is potentially both the best girl and the best grandmother at the same time. Elinalise 💎🧝♀️💦 of course in MT, and in Kumodesu, Ariel, the Demon Lord 😈🌟 🪄and the primal mother of all of the spider monsters 🕷️🌏🕸️.
I know this is a bit off topic but holy hell Espi could have used your help last night. Ed had him on the ropes most of the night and at several points I thought he was going to tap out and call it a night. And when I say “on the ropes” at one point he was throwing end game questions at him. It was nuts and it got to the point where I had to separate myself from chat for the fear I was going to reveal something I shouldn’t.
@@AnimeFlyz all I can say is the questions Ed was asking were so on point that Espi literally couldn't say anything without spoiling something major - and some of the questions Ed was asking was in direct relation to how MT is going to end.
There aren't really any one dimensional characters are there. Here's the hero there's the whore there's the girl next door. Nope they all have nuanced characterisations.
i know money was was raining for the production team when they first started out with the series..... but why did they have to throw the animation out? i get that a few people left the team but damnit....... the animation sucks donkey slongs
Her curse certainly has elements of sex appeal/comedy, hard to argue against, however, it is not just a "she breathes through her skin" moment given that her curse both has a bigger implication on the world as a whole, does provide some commentary on stigma over working on the sex industry/being a sex positive woman (be this commentary intentional or not) and, what I feel to be the main argument in favor of it: it neatly ties back to the whole message from Mushoku tensei that people are more than what they initially seem and, even if people seem to be a certain way on first glance, if you give them the time and chance to explain, you'll see that the situation is much more complex than anyone could've predicted
Realizing Rudeus had a keepsake for each of the girls that he will later marry. Necklace for Silfie, panties for Roxy, and hair for Eris.
Well, he burned Eris' hair and he gets another keepsake from Eris and Sylphy later on...
Elinelise is great. She starts off as a one-dimensional character, and shows more depth as the story goes on. Cant wait till they show more of her motherly/adviser side.
A worthy friend for god.
Hey Natalie it's great to see u back and making mushoku tensei videos . But I request u to bring back mushoku tensei novel read along it was fun
I’m glad to see you back again I’ve missed your content and now I gotta catch up on new season 😊. your ODT is prolly still my fav. I hope more get exposed to it from UA-cam algorithm god lol
Thank you so much! x
Her curse is mostly tragic and she makes the best of it.
SPOILER ALERT
She is quite probably Demon Dragon God Laplace assistant in Old Dragon's Tale. A prequel to main story, before LaPlace was split.
Very enjoyable video
Thank you very much! ❤️
I don’t know why people are complaining. She’s the best girl. She’s my favorite character.
Elinalise is like Ocelot from Metal Gear Solid, she was, she is and she would be in all histories arc of Mushoku Tensein and the news novels as well.
Like how Mushoku Tensei can take fanservice moments and add depth to them. As much as I say Cliff pulled Elinalise is legendary, it is also sweet how wholesome it is.
The twitter puritain types only sell Elinalise's situation better. Imagine she was living in a village full of people like that and you'd see why she gets her kids set up and then moves on. She's probably the best fan service kind of character Ive seen done in a story, i remember kojima responding to people who said quiet was just a T&A character by saying there was a good story based reason why she was half naked but in the end it was just that she can breathe through her skin IIRC.
Dang..in that case Elinalise is literally a GILF 😏. But, I like how her curse makes her a tragic character. Mushoku Tensei does a great job at subverting expectations, taking typical comedic tropes, and giving them deep meaning in the narrative. Love your dress too! 😊
I was wondering about why Ms. Dragonroad seemed to see that Rudeus was off limits. Thanks to whoever suggested this topic and for you to cover it.
Love just listening even if I already know the spoilers. Well-presented content and Natalie's voice is just one of those soothing voices I could listen to for hours. (Yes, learned that from experience.)
Thank you for all your hardwork!
After this episode I was searching online to find what the significance of the pendant was. Thank you for this vid 🙌
Hearing you say she belongs to the streets is the highlight of my day ❤😂
I can't wait to see Orsted munching on all the Jizz Gems in the sequel. XD
I know that this is basically what they are but man... That's a rough mental image to have.
Is Elinalise affected by Orsted's fear curse?
Was scared of spoilers, watched anyway, I can't miss your content
Thanks darling!
I do love how Sylphie is playing with Rudeus at the moment in the anime, she knows who he is, but he is oblivious
I love Elinalise. The depth of her story is told over time in the main story. She and Rudy have a great relationship though not sexual. I wish they would anime Old Dragon's Tale in the future.
Elianealise belongs in the streets.... But she also belongs in a nice lively house filled with kids, love and headpats. Sometimes the streets need someone to make 'em more happy and lively, ya know?
This should hopefully shut up all the Groomer cries over Rudy and Sylph. As she is clearly quarter elf so dose not age normally, Just like Roxy
Actually if anything she'd age slower than a human, so as a child wouldn't be older than she looked like Roxy, but the groomer nonsense is dumb anyway... Rudeus doesn't see her for ten years and doesn't even recognize her when he does, so how was he grooming her during that period? If people believe that they'd have to also concede that Roxy groomed him!
The word groomer doesn't even apply to mushoku since the Japanese don't care about it and that word doesn't even exist in the world of mushoku
@@NatalieXHunter exactly, but my point was fact that people that decry such rubbish haven’t read or watched any part of it and don’t have a clue about the lore on any level and see everything based on their social norms and values. Don’t see that because Elves age differently actually years in physical looks/age will not match mental and emotional age on any level. But they are to blind to even identify that and only look at how characters look. While at same time if Rudy went after someone his mental age like Ghislane etc would scream the opposite that they where grooming him. They don’t have the critical thinking skills to not just reee.
People need to stop saying rudy is 40 something so he should know better he is a 15 year old adult now he left his old life behind so the grooming shit always been stupid to me
First I've ever heard of people saying that. Normally all I see is people screeching about how rudy is a "bad" person because of how he was at the start of the series.
she's here to explain
Glory and happiness for the Turboslut
Grooming is when an adult has a romantic relationship with a minor, but hangs around them waiting for them to turn of age to manipulate them into a physical relationship.
Rudy hasn't been around Sylphy for about a decade, in the LN says he doesn't have romantic feeling for her, and she makes all the moves when they reunite.
Even if you take Rudy's memories as irrefutable proof that he's an adult, this is still nowhere near grooming.
Personally, with stunted emotional growth and living in a child's body, I see Rudy's "age" as a gray area where in some ways he's full grown and in others, he's never reached adulthood
Rudeus is already died so it doesn't make sense to count him as an adult unless what counts is mental age so in that case no one should have any reason to be mad at lolis thousands of years old
@luksalter8200 I've heard people say that anything making someone an adult counts. Emotional, mental, physical, etc. I assume if that's their logic that the reverse is true.
I personally don't ascribe to that line of thought. In the real world, adult women are often petite or young looking. They're adults and finding them attractive is not pedophilia. Fiction is something I care even less about when moral issues are concerned
I do hope that meeting happens in the anime. Even if it is a brief passby with Anna, yeah I shortened it, just showing a sign of recognition
Elinalise was pregnant during LN 15 at the same time as someone else. Lucy was born at the end of LN 12. Edited to remove spoilers.
Yeah, you're right, it's been a while since I read that part, but he does get pretty much raised with Lucy, because Lucy was quite normal and Lara was strange...
@@NatalieXHunter no arguments there 🤣
Elinalise is truly best girl.
It always break my heart Elinalise's relationship with her sons and daughters, I wish people would see her for the great character that she is instead of just horny bait or something
She is my favourite character is the story, i hope she will get more screentime in the anime.
10:23 She's obviously 'for the streets,' but still like the character 😁
The NEED to impregnate crystallic seed!!!
You need to follow up this video with our theory that Claire Redfield from RE 2 Remake is a descendent of Elenalise. 😁
Sylphy is the main character in this series that kept me into the series when I was reading the LN. she very much is the glue to holds everything togeather
Yeah
praise algo-sama
She belongs to da skreets!!! 😂
hello following your video I started reading mushoku tensei but I'm stuck, I can't find where to read volume 25 whether it's in English or Japanese, since you know a lot about it I think you will. have already read so do you have a solution please?
I love your voice
i can't keep all of the names straight. These interconnections are so confusing to me. I feel bad for her, I would think she would prefer to be with her family if not for the curse, even if she does enjoy the sex.
Definitely a tumbleweed 😂
It was funny when she lies about her age at the school
Good luck landing on your feet
I do like Elinalise, i really like her personality and the fact that while she does need to receive her vitamins she always care for others, trying to not make things bad for people and even giving up the chance to be with her kids jsut so that they won't suffer in the future.
She deserves to be happy, fortunatelly she fould Cliff, the man with the most amount of stamina in the entire kingdom, i hope the anime doesn't skip too much of their relationship.
TL;DR: Elinalise isn't an "Ara Ara MILF", she is THE "Ara Ara MILF" XD
Might need to rewatch this or another video you made but her curse helps her amass wealth ? how?. Edit: I rewatched so she spawns magic crystals from her body after getting fertilized that can be sell for a lot of money, like if they were some kind kidney stones but I assume not that painful, and not sure if coming out from another place.
In a twisted way you can say Elinalise is breeding a lot of Mushoku Tensei side characters and some main characters.
I wonder how they can always tell whose offspring comes from what father with all her jumping arround men, hope there is no paternity fraud implied lmao.
I think Fitz might be one of her descendants as well. His rizz, beauty and infinite intellect could come from nowhere else. Kinda sad to see that he might be related to Sylphy, though. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
You should watch ep 0 if you haven't, you're missing tons of exposition. Discard this reply if you're making a joke I seriously cannot tell rn lol.
@@Skepticalraven I erased episode 0 from my brain by sticking a toothpick real far up my nose and wiggling it around a little (works every time) because there was something in it I refuse to accept. Anyway Sylph cringe Fitz based Sylph stupid Fitz smart Sylph's a Lisa Fitz a Bart.
did you not watch the first episode of season 2? lol
Ah. My favourite isekais (Mushoku Tensei and Kumodesu) share the feature that they have a character who is potentially both the best girl and the best grandmother at the same time. Elinalise 💎🧝♀️💦 of course in MT, and in Kumodesu, Ariel, the Demon Lord 😈🌟 🪄and the primal mother of all of the spider monsters 🕷️🌏🕸️.
Second Best couple of Mushoku Tensei. Main couple is Orsted and Girldeus.
I know this is a bit off topic but holy hell Espi could have used your help last night. Ed had him on the ropes most of the night and at several points I thought he was going to tap out and call it a night. And when I say “on the ropes” at one point he was throwing end game questions at him. It was nuts and it got to the point where I had to separate myself from chat for the fear I was going to reveal something I shouldn’t.
What happened?
@@AnimeFlyz all I can say is the questions Ed was asking were so on point that Espi literally couldn't say anything without spoiling something major - and some of the questions Ed was asking was in direct relation to how MT is going to end.
I can fix her i swear 😢
Judge not as if you do you will be judged first!
Is the season going to get better?
@reemeruxd I hope so.
There aren't really any one dimensional characters are there. Here's the hero there's the whore there's the girl next door. Nope they all have nuanced characterisations.
It’s family jewerly
Why does she hate Paul so much? Was this ever explained?
Not really, but there are theories. I have a video about that, actually!
@@NatalieXHunter will watch! TY
I always figured it was a part of their soul. I guess Lord of The Rings did that to me.
i know money was was raining for the production team when they first started out with the series..... but why did they have to throw the animation out?
i get that a few people left the team but damnit....... the animation sucks donkey slongs
She belongs to the streets!!!!!!!!! 🫶
Her curse certainly has elements of sex appeal/comedy, hard to argue against, however, it is not just a "she breathes through her skin" moment given that her curse both has a bigger implication on the world as a whole, does provide some commentary on stigma over working on the sex industry/being a sex positive woman (be this commentary intentional or not) and, what I feel to be the main argument in favor of it: it neatly ties back to the whole message from Mushoku tensei that people are more than what they initially seem and, even if people seem to be a certain way on first glance, if you give them the time and chance to explain, you'll see that the situation is much more complex than anyone could've predicted
Yup, she along with a few others are a great way of humanizing the "undesirables" of society.