Duo Jet vs Pro Jet! - Gretsch Guitar Tone Comparison!
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- Опубліковано 13 січ 2019
- Today I am comparing two of the most AMAZING single-cut guitars around; but will the cheap one be able to keep up with the expensive one? Keep watching to find out :)
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Soli Deo GLoria!
What I like about your channel that other don’t quite do is the fact that you go straight to the point. Also other guitar channels seem to have forced humor that doesn’t quite fit, while you just stay relatively seriously while sti have fun.
Keep up the great work!! Love the vids, you and samuraiguitarist are my favorite (both Canadians 🤔)
Sam Griffin He also has incredibly rich playing. Far too many guitar UA-camrs play high gain shredding. Nothing wrong with that - I like some Satriani style from time to time myself - but for sheer beauty shredding can’t compare to giving each note room to bloom.
Superb guy! One of the only guitar gurus on UA-cam that I trust! His voice is uncannily similar to the actor in 3 and a half men!
Your solos for the comparison spoke to my heart. Thanks for sharing your love for music!
Much warmer, smoother tone with the Duo than the Pro.. Amazing how different the tone characteristics are.. Go Darrel!!!
The electromatic guitars are all fantastic, tons of options and excellent build quality. Another great comparison with some beautiful guitars, keep it up Darrell!
I’m really impressed how well the Pro stacked up against the Duo. Great vid, man.
THANK YOU. I've been looking heavily into the Duo Jet, so I needed this.
A set of TV Jones Classics and an upgraded wiring harness for the Pro Jet would transform that guitar into a huge tone monster for a fraction of the price of the Duo Jet. Both guitars sound great and are lovely instruments. Awesome video as usual!
TV Jones pickups are way overpriced & way overhyped pickups and he gets away with it because he basically has the monopoly on the after market filtertron market.
I've had a set in my la cabronita for a few years and stupidly bought them for £250 a pair because I didn't know any better and there were hardly any other options at the time.
Knowing what I know now, never again will I buy any more of his pickups.
I found some other filtertron clones made by Roswell. They are almost identical specs, dc resistance & inductance are very close, and they're wound with the same gauge wire.
The only discernable difference is that my TV Joneses have alnico 5 magnets and the Roswell FLT's have alnico 2 magnets. Even listening to them with different magnets, the Roswells are every bit as good as the Joneses and they sound very close tone-wise. So I've swapped my TV Jones Classics for the Roswells and they are up for sale now.
The price of the Roswells? £29 for the bridge and £26 for the neck 😆
A quarter of the price of TV Joneses, it's madness.
Did you buy a wiring harness or make it?
I buy my wiring harnesses from 920D Custom Shop. They’re well built, use top notch parts and reasonably priced.
Nah,it's not necessary for all that hassle making mids,the guitar is already great as how it is.
@@JammyGit
your pots are what 500 ? jump them to a 1000 what will that do ?
Finally!! The shoot out I’ve been waiting for!
Great comparison! I especially enjoyed your excellent Solos! Very beautifully done! Thank you Darrell!
I love these vids. I'm not a guitar or gear nerd yet and im just getting into this stuff but you make learning a whole lot of fun. Thanks ks for makeing great videos
Another excellent review Darrel...thank you so much!! Have a wonderful safe and prosperous 2020
Great work! This was really helpful. Thanks for taking the time.
OH MEN I WAS DYING TO SEE THIS VIDEO! LOVE U SO MUCH 😭👌🏼🙌🏼
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Me too!! Thanks a lot Darrell!!
Oh boi!!! 3 videos in one week. My man darrell is on fire
Awesome video man this is great. I’m making the decision between the two today and this really helped!
Always really great videos Darrell. Thank you bonny lad
Really enjoyed this, you have a really nice natural way of getting the information over and your playing is beautiful. :)
Thanks for the kind words Rob!
Hey! I have that same backing track, "Joe Bonamassa Style backing track in G" - you started playing it and it was driving me crazy because I knew it but didn't know from where!!! BTW, I suck at lead guitar but I was kind of happy to see we started in the same area of the neck and our styles were similar, although you do a lot more bending than I do, something I want to learn how to do better.
There's another one I really like I don't know who put it out but it's called "SLOW BLUES backing track in B" - The all caps is how the composer wrote it so it might help you find it, I love playing to that one.
Another brilliant video yet again. enjoyed, big fan of the Gretch line of guitars
They both sounded great !!! Darrell you play really precise and on tempo !!! I love the looks of the ProJet red and gold looks amazing!!!!
Interesting comparison Darrell! I have been eyeballing a Pro Jet for awhile. I will need to take a closer look.
Great comparison Darrell! I like them both!
I was so in awe of your playing, I totally forgot you were doing a side by side review. Thanks!
Thanks for the kind words Chris!
Thanks for the kind words Chris!
Just found ur channel and sir I’m glad I did and I subbed!
Omg I’m so excited about this vid! I just started it
So which Jet was your favourite?
As a long time fan of the firebird, I've got to say that the CAR and gold Pro Jet is a BEAUTIFUL guitar!
The Duo Jet is definitely a touch more understated in looks, but has a richer and more complex tone :)
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Darrell Braun Guitar I like the duo
I like the tilt on the neck where it meets the body. I've got a guitar with the same features. It allows a significant gap between the body and the strings (also you can see the side of the pickups sticking up) But it can still have a nice low action. It's pretty interesting.
Was hoping the pro would hold its own but the duo has it. By a good bit.
I'm currently trying to decide between a 6128t 59 Vintage Select, 6131t Players Edition, and a 6118t SGR Players Edition Anniversary model. I really wish I could be happy with the Chinese model Pro Jet - but unfortunately I'm a registered cork sniffer and can't come around to thinking like a normal person.
I was quite pleasantly surprised by the pro jet. Yes, it is brighter, some might say thinner, but all in all it stood up very well to it’s big brother. I would love to see a comparison of the pro jet and an Epiphone les paul. Another awesome video Darrell, keep up the good work.
Great comparison, I have the older G5435T Pro Jet and it is a piece of art. Low action, tuners hold great and so joyful to play.
Another, awesome video review and discussion!
Nice Vid Derrell! I have a Black Pro Jet from about 4 or 5 yes ago and I just love it! I perform Blues and Classic Rock and it sound Killer! Have a Great Day!!
Thank you DBG! No losers here. Both gits look and sound fantastic! While the Pro's brightness may be good to cut through a mix, I prefer the Duo's overall full dimensional tones - cheers!
Nice Work!
If you have a Vox amp or two, try to pair both Gretsches up to them. Gretsch and Vox produces a unique clean sound as well as a nasty distortion sound. It’s pretty much your counter to Gibson and Marshall.
I like your videos. You made me realize that I only need an affordable nice guitar not an expensive guitar for home use. THANKS DARRELL!!
Great comparison and analysis. Thank you! It’s the Duo for me.
Always Awesome Daryl. love the channel have been watching for awhile. I have the G5230 Electromatic Jet with the Blacktops. Mahogany body and neck. Awesome guit.
Both had a great sound. I'm impressed with the filtertrons, too.
This video was very helpful. Accept for my starting on a Gretsch Corvette in high school ca '72, the Gretsch world has been a complete mystery for me. The Chinese Gretsch was really impressive. I'd rather have the ebony fret board Japanese guitar but the thousands ain't happening--especially after my recent purchase of a PRS S2 Studio--the Swiss Army knife of guitars. Great work as always Darrell.
Really enjoyed the part where you had both guitars in a mix along side each other :)
Both are amazing, and the Pro Jet was definitely a big surprise. Shows how awesome some mid-range guitars can sound. Definitely wouldn't mind geting my hands on one of those!
Excellent video. Thank you.🖖
Nice playing Darrell! I really liked your solos!
Thanks!
The way the bridge strings, pickups and neck sit up so high on Japanese Gretsch was super surprising to me the first time I played them. Now I consider it one of the things that make it unique.
The Duo Jet tone appeals to my preference. Gretsch guitars are brilliant! Love the new Made in Japan players edition models, especially the Broadkaster G6659TFM Jr. Gretsch has really knocked it out of the park with that model! Absolutely flawless from the tone variety to it's visual appreance.
I just noticed you have Soli Deo GLoria! at the end of your description. Ever since I learned what that meant I have put it on everything I could. Props. SDG brother.
I never notice that before.
Thats cool.
Thanks for making wonderful videos. I am still rocking my Yamaha EG112C2, but it is awesome to listen to all these different brands.
Awesome. Enjoyed it. Love the duo jet more :)
This guy has to be one of the best reviewers that I have seen in a very LONG time. Perfect comparison, using the same settings, which a lot of folks seem to miss, and his insight is concise and thorough. Well done mate, for providing such an excellent review. I actually own one of the G5435TG's in black, and I echo every sentiment that you proclaimed in your video. For the money, you will be hard pressed to find a more usable, well-built guitar, and it holds its' own against any higher end guitar, as you have seen in the excellent review above. Tonally, the blacktop filtertrons are a HUGE home run for Gretsch, and they would not be out of place in any of their higher end guitars. I love the articulation that you get from them, and, while they lack some of the fullness of the TV Jones pickups, they are comparable to pickups worth 3 times what they cost. Cheers Darrell, and thanks so much for your awesome work!!!
Darrell - I added a Tru-Arc serpentune compensated bar bridge to my G5435TG, and it made a huge difference with the sustain. It's a direct drop-in replacement for the tune-o-matic that is on it now, and is a very reasonably priced upgrade. If you look at all of the high end Gretsch guitars, they mostly all utilize a solid bar bridge, as part of their signature sound. Just thought I'd mention the option, in case it may be something that interests you. Also, from what I hear, those blacktop FilterTrons are an exact recreation of the Baldwin era filtertrons, that were used in the high end Gretsch guitars, after Baldwin bought the company. They are superbly voiced pickups, and a perfect accompaniment for the Electromatic line. Cheers!!
Ever do vintage? Wonder what you would make of a microfrets guitar? Love the Japanese Gretsch - fuller, wider spectrum of sound.
Outro duet is great!
2 great guitars indeed duo is in my near future forsure
Excellent comparison
I like the control layout on the Pro Jet and the color, I like the ebony fretboard on the Duo Jet and sound of the pickups seem a bit richer. Nice comparison thanks!
Gretsch makes some absolute eye candy! They are some beautiful guitars!
Very cool guitars !!! i want it one
Great comparison! Maybe my age is a factor but I always hear the highs better on the cheaper guitars. This time the highs were very bright on the Pro. I am with you though about the richer sound of the Duo Jet.
I found this kinda funny...I actually like the Pro Jet better on the higher gain setting...loved the Duo on clean...sounded fuller... another great video
Great vid, as always! My favourite: the DUO JET!!! 🤩⚡️🚀🎶But as mentioned, the Pro Jets still offer a lot of bang for the buck.
I just ordered a G5210 from Sweetwater in Broadway Jade after playing it in a local guitar shop. Love it!
Beautiful Melody!
Nice comparison! I've got the gold Pro Jet and I like it a lot. Pickups sound a bit brighter and tinnier than the Duo though.
These are both great! If I could only have one of them I'd go with the Pro Jet
Hey Darrell. I’ve been watching your channel for a while and decided to break down and reactivate my UA-cam account to comment to you. First off, love your videos. You give a lot of great info and I appreciate the debunking/comparison videos that you’ve done a lot. Way too much out on the internet for someone only semi-experienced to make heads or tails of it on their own. I really like the sound of your blue angel amp and have a chance to purchase one just like it somewhat locally. Love the choice of power tube tones. I was wondering if you could do a video on amp attenuators if you use them, and explain what’s good or bad about them. I’d love to have a “real” amp but volume is a real issue for my setup at home, so unless I can bring the dB’s down, I’m stuck with my practice amp setup. Thanks. And please continue with your videos. Very interesting and informative.
Nice Review!!
great video, I think the pro jet did a pretty good job considering the same duo jet beat a Gibson LP, in my opinion, in one of DB's other vids. That said, I have a 5655 center block ltd that is my first guitar at 51 Years old. I've been playing 3 months now and I'm really enjoying it. I'd love to see preview on the semi hollow center blocks from a master player like DB. The only problem I can identify is the strap connector screw keep coming out of the guitar body.
I like the slightly brighter tone of the Pro Jet.
This is one of the consequences of the setting of the 3-way tone switch on the Pro-Series guitar. You never see Darrell use this switch, but the three settings choose between two treble-bleed capacitors or a clear, pass-thru circuit. The pass-thru setting would result in a much brighter tone for the Pro-Series guitar.
I don't know if the Pro Jet was brighter but it sounded much cleaner and well defined in the solo.
I like the Pro Jet.
I played a pro jet China model in our band recently, very useable tones in the sonic landscapes between Strat and Les Paul. The nut slots needed work though so I avoided using the bigsby tremolo.
I don't
So many people just don't have good ears. There is a serious difference in tone, and you're not hearing brightness, you're hearing cheapness.
Brilliant as usual.
Thanks Pete!
What a wonderful blessing to have these top notch Gretsches at any price point really. I never doubted if I got my money's worth with Gretsch. The factory setups, materials and quality control are outstanding. Such a relief.
Great review! Maybe I missed it, but any thoughts on the "very" different bridge designs? the Duo has the older style that can adjust the string width, but has no intonation, and the Pro is just the opposite. significant design differences not mentioned, but otherwise a great comparison of tonal differences.
I completely agree that the TV Jones are a better pickup, but man do those blacktop filtertrons sound good!
I have this Gretsch
Gretsch Guitars FSR Two-Tone Electromatic Pro Jet with Bigsby Electric Guitar Candy Apple Red and White G534TG. Love it!
hey dude =.)
I liked your Melodic comparison!! where I can to listen to the music you play?
I like the tone of the duo jet but that pro jet.....wow, gorgeous! Wow!
Both sounded great to me and I couldn't hear much difference tonally between them at all. Then again my ears are not young lol. Both lovely guitars, the red one is absolutely stunning. Thanks for a great comparison video.
I've got an early (2010 I think) Electromatic Pro Jet that someone tricked out with TV Jones pickups and a proper Bigsby before selling it on. I think TV Jones Classics are my favourite pickups, so resonant and complex without ever getting muddy when you add gain.
Beautiful sounding guitars !
i have the G5434T-LTD Electromatic Pro Jet, it is a great guitar and i love it but, there are a couple of things that need to be said. The first is the break angle from the bridge to the break bar on the Bigsby, it is way too steep and leaves the strings pressing against the back of the bridge which causes problems with tuning after using the Bigsby, it will also wear grooves into the back of the bridge. Simple fix is to bypass the break bar ( you realy don't need it imho. now waiting for people to tell me i'm crazy ) The second is the pickups. I've heard a lot of people say the Blacktop Filtertrons have a weak sound. Simple fix, just raise them up as close to the strings as you can ( or desire )..... sounds great!
Excellent way to do the back-to-back comparison. Too many other comparisons like this have too much talk in between but this made the two tones obvious & evident! Good work. And wow...I always loved Jets but now I'm thinking I want a Chinese-built Jet!
According t the above post, it was a year ago that I typed that! I'm just now awaiting delivery of my black Duo Jet Pro! I wanted to re-watch this video to get an idea what to expect and I'm sure I'll be delighted with it. I've picked it up for an obscenely low price, so even if I want to upgrade it, I'll still be way ahead!
Nicely done, as usual, and it seemed a fair comparison. Not having played either one, they sound VERY similar - I noticed a tone difference only when both pickups were activated. That said, the solos (very nice) sounded almost identical. The Duo-Jet looks a little classier, but that might just be the black / chrome vs. the faux-gold / red on the Pro-Jet. It's a good red, but I loathe fake gold hardware. Even with the differences (neck joint, etc.), I could be happy with either one.
Agree, 100%...... fake gold makes anything look cheesie. (IMO.....)
@@glenngardin3561 Eh, sometimes it looks good. Manufacturers do go overboard on it tho
I've been making a point to just listen blind to the side by side on these comparison videos and maybe if I was using headphones I'd notice but can't tell them apart with speakers and some real world ambient noise. Both sounded fantastic.
He uploads fantastic sound quality and I can’t really hear a difference with or without headphones. Does the duo sound $2k better? It may feel that way but doesn’t sound it.
That Candy Apple Red looks awesome
Thank you! This is exactly what I was looking for. These two Gretches compared.
Glad to help!
Love your Chanel
Thanks JL!
Thanks alot Darrell. I guess I have to make another trip to
Guitar Center. Excellent video.
I have to say, that the differences between the two up until the mix, was so subtle. But then I thought that the Pro one had a much crisper cleaner sound.
I like both but I’d have to choose the Duo. Much more rounded and full tonal values. The Pro sounds very thin not nearly the depth. Nice brightness though. One suggestion for you Darrell if I may, when you talk about features you might mention the benefits of those features Great video. Thanks!
Gretsch owes you for giving them a new client.
Never cared about gretsches, ended up craving for one day and night until yesterday.
Now I'm enjoying my Pro Jet!
Have you tried an Ormsby yet? If not, I'd love to see your opinions
I like the black one for the fuller sound when playing clean at the nut, but I really thought the red one had a better sound soloing in the end.
I just got a G5120. I was never a big Gretsch guy. Their necks were too thick and I associated them with a bygone era. However, I was very, very pleasantly surprised and have to reevaluate my original stance on Gretsch. The 5120's neck was just right, the pickups were very good and versatile, and the neck was just right for my hands. It's a great guitar and quite beautiful to look at too.
both guitars have distinguishable characteristics that sound amazing. by just listening, can't tell what's more expensive.
Thanks for the review and comparison. You say that the electromatic has a basswood body and rosewood fingerboard, but the Gretsch website says it’s a Mahogany body and walnut fingerboard. Have the specs changed? I have a 2018 model that I recently purchased used. Thanks.
ty for the video cheers
Imo, the difference is like the difference between Epiphone and Gibson (sound and price wise, before theres any shots at either company) ones less expensive, one sounds a lil better, but end of the day, if you heard one and didnt know which it was, itd be hard to tell
Ashlynn Preston it’s true, I have an Epiphone Les Paul Special II with stock pickups and everything. I played a 1970’s Gibson a friend of mine had and yeah, there was a difference but the Epiphone wasn’t that far from the actual Gibson
Not to mention if one is "brighter" that it can simply be EQed out 🤷♂️
Uh no. Pro players and industry jockey's can easily spot the cheap tone of the "Pro".
@@cebrinpitts Umm.. No, just no. I do tone for a living and pay my NYC rent from it. You couldn't be more wrong, but I doubt you're working at at level where it matters. Come see me in five years when your ears have matured.
@@JeighNeither Actually, I spent the majority of my 20's, and 30's making a living off of it. Quite comfortably. If you can't get a good sound out of an Epiphone, the problem is not the guitar, it's the player. 80% of tone is in the hands.
Great video is there sheet music available on the solos done in this video. What pedals were used to achieve that sound. Thanks
Most excellent video. I know you're the better judge, but the Arpegio and clean picking favored the Duo Jet, it was cleaner. But for the money, the Pro jet with the Bigsby is my pick. It just had it's own great singing voice during solos. It's time I get a Gretsch. : )
I know it's subjective but I really preferred the warmth of the Duo-Jet pickups on the clean stuff. The Pro-Jet was great for the crunchy stuff. For the higher gain, I liked both but give the edge to the Duo.
I think you make any guitar sound great, they both sound awesome, beautiful red color really like the look.
Thanks JB!
Gretsch vs Gretsch. That will always be a happy day for me. Either one gives a great value in it's price range. I really like the TV Jones filtertrons, but the black top FT pickups keep the tonal signature pretty well. I am glad the Gretsch brand did not die out. Hopefully, FMIC does not compromise Gretsch to the point that it looses it's unique attributes.
I love blind tests and sound comparisons because they open our eyes (err, ears) to how good inexpensive instruments really sound compared to their expensive counterparts. The one thing they cannot tell the viewer is what the guitars feel like to play. That's the intangible that can only be derived in person, and it often justifies the price tag :)
Yes. Sometimes you can feel the difference in your hands. Plus there is the longevity quality as well. Many MIC guitars fall apart after a few years because of the cheap glue and materials. Not saying this is the case with MIC Gretsch, but an overall trend the guys at my local guitar shop talk about since they are the ones who repair them.
I’ve got a classical guitar with a raised fretboard, which is a nice ergonomic feature to be sure. But considering the price, I’d get the Pro Jet. I love the way Gretsch guitars feel in my hands.
Both are very nice and both sound great.