Engineering Plastic Carbonation Cap + Worlds Least Expensive Keg System
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
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Do you want to:
1. Wash out your beer lines
2. Fill PET plastic bottles with counter pressure using the counter pressure cap
3. Make a mini keg system using inexpensive parts
4. Setup a portable little keg system for a fraction for a fraction of the cost of kegs.
Really enjoy when information is concise, this was a good video. Thanks :)
Things we really need. Realized by a pro. Thank you!
Cheers and thank you for your comment.
Comprei 2 unidades ancioso na espera. ideia sensacional parabéns a kegland revolucionando sempre
Brilliant!
Have you considered a PCO 1881 to Duotight fitting? That plus this tee would be a slick way of adding a thermowell to a Fermzilla without drilling, easier to disassemble for cleaning + more sanitary. Also would eliminate need for ball lock QD on soda bottle keg, just straight to picnic tap. Sure wish all of your stuff was widely / readily available in the US!
I agree. The plastic caps seem to work great for me.
Thanks. great to hear you enjoy using them.
those small soda stream co2 bulbs that you screw to the top of kegs, I was wondering if you sell refillable ones? the reason I ask is a lot of us have kegarators and or chest freezers converted into one and either put the co2 bottle inside along with a mile of hoses going in all directions or have the co2 bottle outside with the hose going inside the kegerator linked up to all the hoses, I just thought it would be a good idea if there was a way to refill the bulbs with your big 6KG co2 bottle just so you don't have heaps of hoses getting in the way
Yep love it
Gosh darn it... i wish i saw this BEFORE spending money on both a canular system fron you guys and a custom upright esky build made from Cool room panelling!!
Well we really appreciate your support. We appreciate your business.
These look pretty interesting, and maybe a good way to try out kegging. Would these work lying down in the fridge? Is that a new mini regulator?
Yeah this new mini regulator is absolutely awesome. We are going to release this very soon. I am probably more exited about the mini regulator than these fittings to be honest.
Was wondering about using a spanner or shifter on the carbonation caps. I used one to tighten the caps on my fermzilla but having problems loosening them. What size wrench is best for the job?
Now while you're at it... Please make a duotight-PET adapter what you can use in that T-fitting. That way we do not need an separate ball lock for every bottle. I already had an idea of getting 6x2l PET bottles in parallel.
I think it is a cool system to use for transferring Star San, PBW and other cleaning solutions through tap lines. The only bigger issue I see for this with longer term beer usage, is that it would be hard to purge oxygen from it with the dip tube inserted. You could always attach a spunding valve to it to relieve the pressure, but not to purge and add co2 at the same time.
Edit: Actually, I think it could be possible to squeeze ese the bottle while a spunding valve is attached and then add pressure to the bottle once there's almost no more air left in the bottle.
Yes I would agree. we really need to do another video showing all the different uses for this device.
Excellent video. Do you have a stockist in the UK for these fittings as I'm interested in getting some . Cheers
Yes we do a distributor map is listed on our website.
Do you have plans for bigger PET "kegs" that these could be used with? Cheers 🍻
game changer
I bought a couple of these. They work really well! Are you going to stock the internal orings for these caps? Should be 10x1mm. When my caps arrived i pulled them apart and they both had damaged orings
These are a standard metric o-ring and the 10x1 would work fine. The 8 x 1 is a slightly better fit though.
I should say we revised the design recently with the Gen 2 model and now the new models are designed better so it's even harder to damage the o-ring when assembling/dissasembling.
Hello new line cleaning set up.
It is so useful to have around.
I sure wish you make one of these for growlers
Great idea. I will take this to the product development team.
If I wanted to carbonate beer straight from the fermenter to a pet bottle using a soda stream say at 30 psi, how do I then get the pressure back down to a more level that’s more pour friendly
You can release any excess pressure by undoing the cap.
I've had problems getting the T-piece tightly enough onto PET bottles. I've tried with two T-pieces, and it seems to depend on the bottle, but more than half the times I've tried, it leaked gas when pressurized so wouldn't keep pressure. A single carbonation cap has always worked perfectly fine on the same bottles, so it feels there's something in the T-piece that makes it not seal as well.
Hello Olli. Not all soda bottles have the same thread.
Our products are made to suit the PCO1881 standard. With that said some bottle manufacturers make their cylinders to a different shape or size or make products that do not meet the standard.
The thread standard "PCO1881" standard can be found on the website for the "International Society of Beverage Technologists". Here is a link for your convenience:
www.isbt.com/assets/Committees/Packaging-Technology/21/3784253-21.pdf
If your thread does not fit the most likely scenario is that the dimensions of the bottle you are using do not match this above standard.
@@KegLand The thing is, with some bottles, your carbonation caps fit perfectly and seal up well, but neither of the two T-pieces I have work. I've tried on a handful or so of bottles from the shop, and their own caps are all interchangable. It seems a bit random.
@@OlliWilkman You reallly need to make sure you are using the PCO1881 specificaion bottle. You might find some PCO1810 bottles will mesh together and work sometimes but not all th times. This is simply not a correct match. I would contact the bottle supplier and make sure you are using the correct thread and I can assure you it will work all the time.
Unfortunetly more and more thread types are comming available. The good thing is we are incresing the range of PCO1881 bottles that we distribute ourselves so you can also just purchase botles from us.
I kind of wish the T went the other way. I realize you would need to pay attention to witch is in and out but with those new ball locks you would have crazy tiny system.
My problem is that it's stuck on the bottle and I can't unscrew it from the bottle.
You should not need to do it up so tight to get it to seal.
Where can I get these parts in the USA
you should be able to ask form them at www.morebeer.com as they distribute a lot of our stuff in America
Great video but if I can provide a suggestion and put a bit cloth on the stainless steel bench top so when you drop the fittings on the bench it doesn’t give a sharp sound..
Yes that's a fair point. This sound is horrible.
@@KegLand thank you Keene for your understanding.. keep up the good work and comprehensive video.. I’ve been watching them on night shift .
I stumbled across video when you were much younger and were testing the Pluto beer gun.
You threw it on the road to test its durability and you nearly got run over in the process.. like I always say, “always get the footage no matter what” 🎥😂
Do these come apart. And how do we clean these?
Yes you just use a shifter and you can undo the base and the poppet comes out for cleaning.
Put one of the kegs together today. Simple and effective.
Buy 2 litre of cheap cola, Clean drain with cola and then soak the flavour out. Sanitise and fill.
Are 3 litre soft drinks around anymore? Would be great.
Yes that would be good. We are in the process of making some cheap 8L plastic PET kegs next so hopefully these will be available at the end of the year.
I'm confused. Are these caps just connectors or do they have a pressure relief as well? Can I just attach these to a bottle, let it ferment naturally and expect these caps to prevent the bottle from exploding, or will I need to find a regulator of some sort as well?
They are just caps that emulate keg posts - no pressure relief
@@KegLand I figured. Thanks for the confirmation. I'd really like caps with small spunding valves so I could safely carbonate in bottles without more gear.
Would these works for nitro coffee or coffee martinis? Or is pressure in No2 too high?
Yes absolutely. Most PET bottles can be pressurised to over 90psi. So they are perfect for nitro.
@@KegLand
Fantastic my friends👍
What is the code for these products?
www.kegland.com.au/pco-1881-carbonation-cap-tee-piece.html
How can I use a carbonation cap to vacuum out air in a bottle before I connect a CO2 hose to carbonate the water? I want to do this in a glass bottle. If I was using a plastic soda bottle I can just squeeze the bottle to get the air out before tightening the cap.
1. We do not make one of these caps to suit glass bottles.
2. We do no really recommend pressurising a glass bottle with a gas cylinders as a bit more dangerous and an exploding glass bottle can cause quite a lot more harm than a plastic bottle. Also plastic tends to hold significantly more pressure before failing.
@@KegLand Thanks. I don't drink out of plastic or like to create drinks in plastic as it is more toxic. I can try glass and wear eye goggles.
@@dyardsale5475 I would agree that some plastics are bad and can leach plasticisers or other toxins. We spend a lot of time in research and development and we stay away from plastics such as polycarbonate, vinyl based plastics, plastics that contain plasticisers.
The PET plastic and POK which we used in these plastic parts are completely safe and we are very happy recommending the use of them. If you read broadly you can find information such as PET as it breaks down can leach very small amounts of acid aldehyde as it breaks down which can be toxic. With that saidt in the extremly small concentrations its benign. It's also woth saying that if you plan on drinking alcohol then you will definitely have acid aldehyde in your blood as it's an essencial pathway to breaking down alcohol.
So having done a lot of research in this area I personally am very happy with the use of these plastics that we use which is why I use them myself. I honestly believe you are placing far more risk in loosing an eye with an exploding glass bottle than drinking from plastic.
I am fairly confident that you will find the alcoholic beverage is far more toxic than anything that is going to come from the PET and POK resins that we use.
@@KegLand Thank you for your help. I was worried about the plastics in the bottle, not your accessories. The risk from explosion may be mitigated by pressuring the glass bottle while it's in a sack of some kind and removing the cap before removing the bottle from the sac. Also, wearing goggles and gloves.
Would this system work if you wanted coke/sprite to come out of the tap at the end.
Yes pretty much the same.
I find plastic carbonation cap does not seal well against fermzilla collection jar.
i wish you guys shipped to the states
Agreed! Kegland is needed in the states!
@@robbo580 We do sell all the kegland gear to www.morebeer.com but it's generally just released a couple months later. Australia is always the first place we release new product.
@@robbo580 We do sell to www.morebeer.com so if you request any of the product we make from them they will have it for you. The new gear is generally released in USA about 1-3 months after we release in Australia.
Yeah me too.
Where can I find it in the USA?
Europe as well.
@@ebbefinkandersen5177 Just search on eBay or Google for
‘Kegland Carbonation Caps’ there are resellers selling these in Europe
👍😜🍻
@@nakedkeg3159 you sell it at 11,9 times the price of the kegland price in Australia.
One question: What the fuck?
No way I'm doing that.
@@ebbefinkandersen5177 Your Maths is factually incorrect, but just so that you are clear: I pay the retail price, my cost are Finance, Forex, Inbound Shipping, Duty, Agent Fees, Tax, Storage and eBay commission.
I am not the only Europe based seller, but I believe at present, I am the lowest price seller.
I bought 10 of these plastic carbonation caps a good 6 months ago now, they really are a great product and only a few dollars each of you buy 10. Bargain!
Yeah I honestly dont know why we still sell so many stainless ones when you can get these so cheap. I think some people have an addition to stainless.
Also could be a cheap way to make a hop randall..
We will have to give that a go.
@@KegLand have you guys tried it out yet? :-)
Epic as F 👌🏻
Cheers! Thanks for your comment.
I am waiting to see one fitted to a tiny 250ml PET bottle.....