Man, I thought going by the title this was going to be just another Triangulation video (like so many others online). 2 Minutes in, already I have to pause the video to process my feelings. I don't know what it is about how you explain things Mark, or maybe its because your processes and sharings seems to be so genuine and authentic, but it just knocks me everytime out of the park. Also I know high control groups all use "BITE" model tactics, however NXIVM is just so crazily similar to my control group. Blessings to all.
@@GFY2024-y7y Yes he is! 💯 As a matter of fact I learned already so much from Mark's ability to tell things storywise just watching a few videos, that last night I finally (after years of trying) made some people in my surroundings understand I've been in a high control group and a target of their smearcampaign. Hopefully one day I can speak about these things with the joyful airiness of Steve Hassan and the many more that speak out, teach ,and show others you can get back to health and happiness. I didn't watch the Vow yet apart from some fragments, so far I've been learning so much from all of the people that speak out online and I didn't want to cloud that yet. Its really warming to think that Mark and Bonnie, and Sarah and Nippy managed to get out as couples, and to see India for example doing an interview with her mother present. Like its saying "there is a community and group of loving people without the control group, that are not only accepting you as a person but also you opening up about your story". Have a blessed day!
This has been one of your best videos. I run a Youth sports program and one of the Coaches does this exact thing between other parents and coaches. He spreads lies and innuendo to cause conflict.
This reminds me of the fallout of families during the campaign leading up to the Trump presidency of 2016. By that time I had already read books and researched propaganda so I found the chaos amusing and purposely added to it bc it was too easy. Narcissists are easily bored and this sh*t show was a carnival. When people are emotionally compromised by other people's perspectives or opinions, it's like chum in the water for human sharks. You want to have logical conversations about facts over emotionally driven scenarios. But watch out for the calm conversationalist who takes you on a word salad journey to insanity. Did you know Word Salad is a schizophrenic trait? The more you know. 🌈
Leaders love power and money. Nothing else. If we keep it in mind, we can be a bit more chill about their choices/actions. It can also give us a much better jumping-off point to play THEM when electing them to office. But only if we can critically evaluate a situation. About the “saviour” aspect of the narcissistic triangulation: my old boss to a T. Unfortunately, my current boss was groomed by the old boss, but she is woefully inept at the triangulation trick. Being able to recognise this due to smaller scale personal dynamics has put a huge target on my back at work. Luckily, a large group of us is aware of this behaviour, and calling it out (with the consequences you mentioned).
You bring up some great thoughts--we live in an age with an overwhelming amount of information available at any moment of the day. So we focus and hone on information that is similar to ours, which is dangerous when disinformation can jumble into the fray.
Dick Cheney and the Iraq War. He was the CEO of Haliburton, and stepped down to be the VP. He stoked the Iraq War, and then Haliburton received a ton of no-bid contracts to go in and rebuild what he set out to have destroyed.
Thank you for all you are doing. 3:15 okay but Marxist? The struggle sessions were not Marxists were they? People have a lot of confusion around Marxism. I think it's important that people begin to really understand what Marx wrote. 13:21. Marx wrote that using surplus value on war is like throwing it all into the ocean. It destroys surplus. This serves the purpose of moving that surplus out of view to the masses so that we do not become egalitarian but instead keep.a ruling class.
Mark: 🎯
The man behind the curtain.
It’s amazing how many people don’t understand that. ♥️✌️
So Spot on!
Man, I thought going by the title this was going to be just another Triangulation video (like so many others online). 2 Minutes in, already I have to pause the video to process my feelings. I don't know what it is about how you explain things Mark, or maybe its because your processes and sharings seems to be so genuine and authentic, but it just knocks me everytime out of the park. Also I know high control groups all use "BITE" model tactics, however NXIVM is just so crazily similar to my control group. Blessings to all.
@@GFY2024-y7y Yes he is! 💯 As a matter of fact I learned already so much from Mark's ability to tell things storywise just watching a few videos, that last night I finally (after years of trying) made some people in my surroundings understand I've been in a high control group and a target of their smearcampaign. Hopefully one day I can speak about these things with the joyful airiness of Steve Hassan and the many more that speak out, teach ,and show others you can get back to health and happiness. I didn't watch the Vow yet apart from some fragments, so far I've been learning so much from all of the people that speak out online and I didn't want to cloud that yet. Its really warming to think that Mark and Bonnie, and Sarah and Nippy managed to get out as couples, and to see India for example doing an interview with her mother present. Like its saying "there is a community and group of loving people without the control group, that are not only accepting you as a person but also you opening up about your story". Have a blessed day!
This has been one of your best videos.
I run a Youth sports program and one of the Coaches does this exact thing between other parents and coaches. He spreads lies and innuendo to cause conflict.
Mark this is the best explanation of Triangulation on the internet.
If it can happen to someone clearly as intelligent and articulate as you then I feel a bit less utterly useless that it happened to me.
Love this podcast! Please keep speaking the truth! More people need to hear this (especially about our leaders).
as always, thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Helpful insight!
Nicely said! Very well articulated.
Thank you kindly!
True True.
“..oh Mark our leaders love us!” 😂😂😂 Love your thinking and content. Totally agree our leaders see us as cannon fodder.
This reminds me of the fallout of families during the campaign leading up to the Trump presidency of 2016. By that time I had already read books and researched propaganda so I found the chaos amusing and purposely added to it bc it was too easy. Narcissists are easily bored and this sh*t show was a carnival. When people are emotionally compromised by other people's perspectives or opinions, it's like chum in the water for human sharks. You want to have logical conversations about facts over emotionally driven scenarios. But watch out for the calm conversationalist who takes you on a word salad journey to insanity. Did you know Word Salad is a schizophrenic trait? The more you know. 🌈
Wow. I did NOT know Word Salad is a schizophrenic trait!
Leaders love power and money. Nothing else. If we keep it in mind, we can be a bit more chill about their choices/actions. It can also give us a much better jumping-off point to play THEM when electing them to office. But only if we can critically evaluate a situation.
About the “saviour” aspect of the narcissistic triangulation: my old boss to a T. Unfortunately, my current boss was groomed by the old boss, but she is woefully inept at the triangulation trick. Being able to recognise this due to smaller scale personal dynamics has put a huge target on my back at work. Luckily, a large group of us is aware of this behaviour, and calling it out (with the consequences you mentioned).
Thank you. I had heard the term triangulation earlier this week and was confused by its meaning now I think I understand how it was being used.
You bring up some great thoughts--we live in an age with an overwhelming amount of information available at any moment of the day. So we focus and hone on information that is similar to ours, which is dangerous when disinformation can jumble into the fray.
You're describing the state of American politics.
Dick Cheney and the Iraq War.
He was the CEO of Haliburton, and stepped down to be the VP.
He stoked the Iraq War, and then Haliburton received a ton of no-bid contracts to go in and rebuild what he set out to have destroyed.
Problem-Reaction-Solution
Woke-MAGA-Technocrats
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Thank you for all you are doing.
3:15 okay but Marxist? The struggle sessions were not Marxists were they? People have a lot of confusion around Marxism. I think it's important that people begin to really understand what Marx wrote. 13:21. Marx wrote that using surplus value on war is like throwing it all into the ocean. It destroys surplus. This serves the purpose of moving that surplus out of view to the masses so that we do not become egalitarian but instead keep.a ruling class.
Please. You’re a clown
dossier = /dŏs′ē-ā″, dô′sē-ā″/ Yeah, it doesn't make sense.