Narcissistic Cults And The Light Side of the Force, Jedi vs Sith : Mark Vicente

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  • @brightstar4321
    @brightstar4321 10 місяців тому +60

    My family was a “cult” with a psychopathic father as its leader. While the “cult” has long been dismantled and my father dethroned as its leader, I’m still impacted and healing from its subliminal and insidious ripples on my life.
    Despite the pain and trauma, I don’t think I would’ve gained so much insight and wisdom on the human experience without it, so in that sense I’m grateful for the good and positive ways I’ve been able to grow from it and help others with what I’ve learned.

    • @pickle9753
      @pickle9753 10 місяців тому +8

      I’m starting to wonder if all families are tiny “cults”. 🤔🤔 It seems no matter what the family appears to be from an outsider’s perspective….there are always a few trying to escape or break fee ….from the ones who are incapable of “saying shit when their mouth is full of it” and owning accountability for themselves, and their actions 🥴😂😂😉
      Thanks for sharing…your story resonates…stay strong 💪🔥❤️☯️🖖

    • @pickle9753
      @pickle9753 10 місяців тому +5

      Even people’s friends ship groups too, I noticed ….little mini cults lol

    • @brightstar4321
      @brightstar4321 10 місяців тому +3

      @@pickle9753 Thanks Pickle! 🥒 I notice we tend to have exactly the people and situations around us to help us grow 🌱, or at least to help till our soil so we can plant🪴seedlings within us what is most needed for our soul’s growth. May the force be with you on your journey 🙌😃.

    • @pickle9753
      @pickle9753 10 місяців тому +2

      @@brightstar4321 thanks, and also with you 🖖☯️💪🔥❤️

    • @seriouscat2231
      @seriouscat2231 10 місяців тому +3

      Is there any good definition then for a non-cult entity? Or is the entire social or even physical world a cult? So a person must empty his mind or do something utterly random to not be in a cult? Unless someone comes up with a cult of mind-emptying and a cult of doing random things?

  • @Kelley-d9i
    @Kelley-d9i 10 місяців тому +20

    If it wasn’t for you I would have never known what I was married to. If it wasn’t for you, I wouldn’t have known how to leave. And if it wasn’t for you, I wouldn’t be ok during the insanity of this healing process. Bc of you I am ok not being ok. I cannot thank you enough for helping me and giving me a plan of action aka HOPE. I admire you and I appreciate you being nothing less than a huge blessing in my life. You are the man♥️
    God bless you, sir.

  • @lenny2939
    @lenny2939 10 місяців тому +44

    My "narcisstic family structure" family raised me in a religious cult. This is spot on. Cults are narcissist family structures on a larger scale. Same abuse tactics.

    • @HypsyGyspy1467
      @HypsyGyspy1467 10 місяців тому +5

      During the plannedemic.
      It was all very obvious and triggering to me .
      Left and right narcissistic tactics .
      And responses .

    • @fjalling
      @fjalling 10 місяців тому

      I just figured this out too!!!

    • @tyruswatson2115
      @tyruswatson2115 10 місяців тому

      Me too. Great to be healing. I hope you are too.

  • @kimberleylangford5536
    @kimberleylangford5536 10 місяців тому +10

    I belonged to a group that started off as what I'd describe as being a "New Agey" course. I now see similarities between this group and a cult. I realize that a lot of the behaviours of the group leaders could be described as being Narcissistic. There was a lot of love-bombing, programing, and gaslighting going on. Then I witnessed how people who figured out who the leaders really were (behind their charismatic and sparkly masks) and spoke up about it, were discarded. And then it was my turn to be kicked to the curb. And while I had become very dependent on the group and the leaders for my validation, I was relieved when it was over. It's taken me awhile to trust others again and reclaim who I really am. And watching Richard's Videos on Narcissism, has helped immensely with my recovery, along with therapy. These people know who they can pick on - the vulnerable, those feel lost, as well as others with codependency issues. The experience taught me a lot, and I hope never to go through it again!

  • @MissQuite
    @MissQuite 9 місяців тому +4

    Having grown up in SA, worked as a makeup artist in film and the news industry ,as well as having been in an abusive narcissistic relationship for years, this fascinating conversation has hit many spots❤

  • @ThePortalTheory
    @ThePortalTheory 10 місяців тому +12

    I watched "what the bleep" years ago. Still think about it today. ❤

  • @valeriecollura
    @valeriecollura 10 місяців тому +11

    I’m absolutely sure you must have read it Richard but for those who haven’t, Daniel Shaw’s book “Traumatic Narcissism, Relational Systems of Subjugation“ is illuminating. It’s geared more for the therapist but for anyone interested in understanding this more in-depth it’s a must. Shaw also is outspoken (in general)about his experience with a cult.

    • @RICHARDGRANNON
      @RICHARDGRANNON  10 місяців тому +6

      I’ve not read it, thanks for the tip 📕

  • @tinatina-tq4tj
    @tinatina-tq4tj 10 місяців тому +4

    I enjoyed this very much. Great rapport between fellas having a sit down chit chat

  • @anem6737
    @anem6737 10 місяців тому +19

    It is wrong to believe that narcissists can't be great film makers or great artists or great scientists ... I have met many narcissists excelling in something that is very important to them, and they were exceptionally good at or proficient in an activity or interest. Narcissists are crap at being good, caring partners, parents, bosses, humans. But they can be excellent performers in whatever they care about.

    • @shannonbaker5267
      @shannonbaker5267 10 місяців тому +2

      Yes, I agree, they have the ability to fully throw themselves into something bc in general everyday life & social connections, or keeping them, overall mean nothing to them, those are a waste of time in their minds. So they have the keen ability to fully throw themselves into a career, whatever that might be.

    • @nataliabusko1432
      @nataliabusko1432 5 днів тому

      My father is a grandiose narcissist, he is quite successful and rich
      He is an absent father, really cold, but he is a respectable member of society, he doesn’t even wear his mask, he is as douchie as he is at home

  • @heatherbrooks7479
    @heatherbrooks7479 10 місяців тому +2

    I was OBSESSED with ‘What the Bleep Do We Know’!!! I left the theater a changed person❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

  • @audbod4140
    @audbod4140 10 місяців тому +9

    I understood my narcissist and his family so much better after watching Mark's documentary on Scientology 5 years ago 🙏

    • @alessiosandro123
      @alessiosandro123 10 місяців тому

      Why?? :)

    • @audbod4140
      @audbod4140 10 місяців тому +5

      I wasn't allowed to question him, my way of seeing things was always wrong, I was punished for defending myself. It was very similar to a cult.

    • @HypsyGyspy1467
      @HypsyGyspy1467 10 місяців тому

      @@audbod4140yes .

  • @heartwisdomlove
    @heartwisdomlove 6 місяців тому +1

    such a brave man !!! Thank you Richard and Mark

  • @scowlsmcjowls2626
    @scowlsmcjowls2626 10 місяців тому +6

    If you think you can outsmart the devil then hes got you already.

  • @karenknight7476
    @karenknight7476 10 місяців тому +15

    I can’t get enough of these 2!!

    • @mylveilleux
      @mylveilleux 10 місяців тому +2

      Same here. Had tacos 🌮 last night 😂

    • @HypsyGyspy1467
      @HypsyGyspy1467 10 місяців тому +2

      Agree! Sense ! And Sensability

    • @RICHARDGRANNON
      @RICHARDGRANNON  10 місяців тому +3

      @@mylveilleuxI’m jealous 🌮 🤤

    • @brightstar4321
      @brightstar4321 10 місяців тому +1

      @@RICHARDGRANNON I’d be happy to take you out for tacos 🌮 if you come to Austin! 😋

  • @abii_birkett
    @abii_birkett 10 місяців тому +3

    1:00:00 You'll be glad to know Star Wars:The Acolyte is actual sets! I worked on that show (to be released summer this year) from beginning to end and the sets were really really amazing. I work in the art department and the stuff we got to design was super lovely - half of which wouldn't exist with a volume replacement. Even with all the sets being built, I heard it was still cheaper that way than using the volume which seems insane. But yeah... lots do use the volume (there's one at Pinewood here in the UK) but it's a bit soulless if you ask me. Hard for the actors too...

  • @theprophecy11
    @theprophecy11 10 місяців тому +2

    I've enjoyed this interview a lot.
    Obrigada.

  • @lesleybrady3948
    @lesleybrady3948 9 місяців тому +1

    Yes I saw it what the bleep! Many moons ago!! I will give it another watch xx

  • @KammiNeko
    @KammiNeko 7 місяців тому +1

    Mark made What the Bleep?!!!!! BEST FILM EVERRRR!!!!

  • @alienspotter422
    @alienspotter422 10 місяців тому

    Great conversation. Thank you.

  • @zhibyful
    @zhibyful 10 місяців тому +2

    Vicente is so interesting in conversation

  • @audiomyx
    @audiomyx 10 місяців тому +3

    Great work gentlemen

  • @RainbowHarmony
    @RainbowHarmony 10 місяців тому +4

    This episode had a great title, and the guest seemed nice but i watched the whole thing and feel like the topic was barely touched on? I hope there will be another episode on this topic where you actually talk about it, I think it’s a really important topic and I would love to hear your thoughts. I’m honestly confused about what I just watched 😅 seems like the guest kept changing the subject idk I don’t understand 🤣

    • @queeniepants6012
      @queeniepants6012 10 місяців тому +1

      I completely agree with you. I was honestly super excited to watch this. I saw him in the thumbnail and recognized him from The Vow and another documentary about his cult. I was really excited but slowly got more and more disappointed as I realized that it was mostly a discussion on film and Star Wars. Which I get, he's a film maker. But it just felt like such clickbait when maybe 5 minutes was about the cult? If they had titled it more accurately to the topics discussed I wouldn't be disappointed and would understand. Just felt very bait and switched that I kept skipping ahead to see if they ever got back on course. Hopefully there is another episode that actually addresses the title.

  • @tragedy-and-comedy
    @tragedy-and-comedy 10 місяців тому

    Muito Obrigado Mark Vicente.

  • @MsLolga
    @MsLolga 10 місяців тому +2

    That was a great talk show by the way

  • @BodyLanguageAnalysisInterrogat
    @BodyLanguageAnalysisInterrogat 10 місяців тому +3

    I've heard Mark before.. really great info! This is going to be a fabulous interview 🙌

  • @LifewithAng904narcsurvivor
    @LifewithAng904narcsurvivor 10 місяців тому +2

    So my daughter who's about to graduate college just compared the American election choices to Frodo or Sauron while FaceTiming tonight .... lol and who was the first face that came to my mind . Richard G . Then I started giggling ... then I come on and see this ... ❤ good vs evil ..... love Star Wars . Love your analogy's . Thank u .. the force ...

  • @mistiwaters1811
    @mistiwaters1811 10 місяців тому +1

    What The Bleep was great!! I saw it when it first came out in the theaters. Marlee Matlin is wonderful!

  • @stvbrsn
    @stvbrsn 10 місяців тому +1

    4:07 I’ll tell you exactly what happened… at 13 years old you had a realization…
    “I’m Luke Skywalker. I’m here to rescue you” you said, as you pulled off the mask of you enemies.

  • @charzakwinn1398
    @charzakwinn1398 10 місяців тому +1

    Isn't "What the bleep do we know" in some way connected to Ramtha's school of enlightment? That in itself is quite a rabbithole!

  • @pupper5580
    @pupper5580 10 місяців тому +3

    The book that Blade Runner 1 was based on - Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep by Philip K. Dick - is a very fashinating book, and gives a nice counter-balance to the Ridley Scott Movie (because the book is like a mirror image of the movie, in many ways). In the book Deckard overcomes his depression and anxiety, and through his trials and tribulations finds hope, faith, and courage - and a new zest for life.

  • @JC-lh1pj
    @JC-lh1pj 10 місяців тому +1

    That was fun. Thank you.

  • @Solamoro
    @Solamoro 5 місяців тому

    Truth is the certainty of the reality

  • @lesleybrady3948
    @lesleybrady3948 9 місяців тому

    I’m enjoying this video thank you 🙏

  • @annemarie9980
    @annemarie9980 10 місяців тому

    Thank You Richard and Mark...I loved this talk and the rapour you have was very enjoyable❤❤❤p.s.also a lover of Si Fi and Action movies !! Love the further insights of "What the Bleep" which, Mark was groundbreaking. My theiry about the revelation of "the Mysteries" is that humanity as a whole can only manage so much info...and it has been slowly comming more and more into mass conciousness. As a 68yr old seeker i have witnessed it expanding in my lifetime. ❤❤❤More of this content please Richard, big fan ❤

  • @lesleybrady3948
    @lesleybrady3948 9 місяців тому

    Omg yes!!! I live with quite a lot of imposter syndrome and I’m like how! How do these people with hardly any quals or experience run with it so hugely! Pisses me off a little at times! Xxx

  • @TreysMythsandTunes
    @TreysMythsandTunes 10 місяців тому

    Thank you, brother. This is one of the most blatant reasons why I subscribed to you, besides the lessons and comedy. You just quoted one of my favorite scriptures from Thomas @ 51:34! I saw What the Bleep in the theatre and then, years later, (as 'little me' has always been on a spiritual journey,) I was "star struck" when I met Dr. Bruce after I'd just finished 'The Biology of Belief,' and I knew intuitively without words by the look in his eyes he was going to give me his second book, a strange feeling. (Again, not to brag, but the cnpd may still be in my 'blind spot.') That being said, watching this here on UA-cam, which deletes entire channels, shadow bans, erases or deletes view numbers and comments, they're not _quite_ as mean as the "stupid people in Hollywood"🤣 (_perfectly hilarious meme!_) also the intelligence com-munities seem to be open to exposing the topic of psychology, - this is a big full-circle for me! Thanks, we'll check it & Peace! 😹💖🙏🕊

  • @Iondeen
    @Iondeen 10 місяців тому

    Some of what Mark was talking about with the time and reality thing reminds me of Kurt Vonnegut's stuff

  • @oanaalexia
    @oanaalexia 9 місяців тому

    @21:53 there's a knock while the word time is being said by Mark, in the context of meditation and moments when you realize, there is no time. I'm sure the studio is professional and there's no way it was a sound that naturally occurred in that moment.

  • @joanngibala2058
    @joanngibala2058 10 місяців тому +4

    You two look like & are like brothers. ❤

  • @huldaherna3935
    @huldaherna3935 10 місяців тому

    OMG!!! Starstruck hahhaaa, I have the DVD of what the bleep. Watch it still.

  • @starseeddreamer1
    @starseeddreamer1 10 місяців тому

    More please! 🙏🏻

  • @BrokenEyes00
    @BrokenEyes00 10 місяців тому

    It’s funny, I only know this alchemic phrase from pop culture but it’s been running through my head a lot lately and I think it fits with this.
    “As above so below, as within so without.”
    I don’t want to write an essay, I think the meaning is easy enough to parse out.

  • @Faiza.A.R
    @Faiza.A.R 10 місяців тому +1

    Great talk. Really enjoyed it

  • @axiomic
    @axiomic 10 місяців тому +1

    we didn't get another television until 1996 ... after our dad put an axe through it 1976 .....

  • @pickle9753
    @pickle9753 10 місяців тому +1

    I turned this notification on yesterday…why did I just need to do it again?? Horse shit app lol

  • @cultivateyourself
    @cultivateyourself 10 місяців тому +1

    Funny though SA is really thriving now.
    I mean, what a place to live in.

  • @RobbieMeadows-oz4cx
    @RobbieMeadows-oz4cx 10 місяців тому

    Green Book.. It's such a good film ❤❤❤

  • @monique-y6o
    @monique-y6o 5 місяців тому

    1:07:36 🧩🙏🏼

  • @Lauren-ey7rp
    @Lauren-ey7rp 10 місяців тому

    Lately I've been playing out Pink Floyd's "Fearless" & then this comes out.

  • @stvbrsn
    @stvbrsn 10 місяців тому

    Richard has the best Liverpool accent since saint John himself.

  • @andrewmills7117
    @andrewmills7117 9 місяців тому

    Alex Garland wrote “The Beach”.

  • @E-607-droid
    @E-607-droid 2 місяці тому

    Star Wars hit theaters in May 1977 🤗

    • @E-607-droid
      @E-607-droid 2 місяці тому

      Also, listening to you talk about the Death Star and how our moon happens to be the same size of the sun gave me a spiritual orgasm 🎉 ty

  • @cymbelinebritain6799
    @cymbelinebritain6799 9 місяців тому

    I'm an atheist and not particularly spiritual in any capacity. I'm much more of a science-geek however, speaking of Mark's movie "What the (bleep)..." and making things "happen" with your mind, I have the opposite phenomenon happen with me. I won't obsessively think about something and it happens, such as bumping into someone you haven't seen in forever. For me it's a fleeting thought. A momentary flash in my brain and I won't think of it again until the occurrence or chance meeting happens. It has to be a situation where I give the thought no more than a second and then when whatever it is happens, I'll remember that fleeting thought and be like..."what the hell! this flashed in my mind yesterday!".
    It's funny because I'm not superstitious, however if I start to think about an accident or something bad happening, I will force myself to think about it longer, convincing myself that if I give it more than a momentary flash, then it's not portentous in any way and therefore won't happen. The problem is, I'm not really conscious of the fleeting thought at the time because it comes and goes and that's when the thing, whatever it is, happens.
    I sound like a crazy person. 🤣

  • @tinatina-tq4tj
    @tinatina-tq4tj 10 місяців тому

    What’s the gossip about Mark being part of Ramtha’s school of enlightenment prior to joining nxivm?

  • @f666frida
    @f666frida 10 місяців тому

    Grannon referenced the belief system of the Nation of Islam (the "Black Muslims"). Members of that group include Malcolm X and Louis Farrakhan

  • @vinozarazzi5633
    @vinozarazzi5633 10 місяців тому +2

    GRANNON please bring forward the EVIDENCE that Adolf Hitler died in his bunker?

  • @whadis404
    @whadis404 10 місяців тому

    Is there a way to contact you personally please?
    I’d like to tell my story of cults in my life
    Thank you

  • @vinozarazzi5633
    @vinozarazzi5633 10 місяців тому +1

    Is that really Luke Skywalker and Han Solo!?

  • @robertamorgan4149
    @robertamorgan4149 10 місяців тому

    Steve Box wrote a great book about methamphetamine.

  • @KS-ys8vu
    @KS-ys8vu 10 місяців тому

    53:00

  • @rzone9546
    @rzone9546 5 місяців тому

    Europa the Last Battle. Dare you to watch it

  • @ErinStearns
    @ErinStearns 10 місяців тому

    Paul Ferguson exemplifies the potential of men who are enmeshed by their mothers and victimized by narcissistic abuse. Why is there silence surrounding this enmeshed individual?

  • @lisasunshine7654
    @lisasunshine7654 5 місяців тому

    So this was a fun video! But you guys didn’t really talk about the cults decoded. 😂

  • @starc.
    @starc. 10 місяців тому +5

    start with The Government

    • @starc.
      @starc. 10 місяців тому +3

      its the second biggest religion after money

    • @HypsyGyspy1467
      @HypsyGyspy1467 10 місяців тому +1

      EXACTLY!!!!

  • @MajelCats
    @MajelCats 10 місяців тому

    Star Wars is a fairytale. These are the same:
    “A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away..”
    “Once upon a time, in a kingdom far far away”
    Star Wars is the past. Star trellis the future. Where everyone in the federation has perfect nutrition that they function with calm & easy in extremely tense situations. When they are held captive for long periods of time, you can see fight or flight appear.
    They take death very well on the enterprise. Star wars is backwards thinking, very emotional.

  • @nielsk85
    @nielsk85 10 місяців тому

    And friends? Your Facebook friends who did not want to drop the name?!

  • @blackopal3138
    @blackopal3138 10 місяців тому +4

    Hey, Richard. Just a suggestion, but, I'm thinking you should retitle this. You have to get Star Wars in the title. That would have to push the views up, no?
    ... Is Star Wars Creating Cults Around the World, Star Trek, Narcissism and Escapism in SciFi
    ... The Real Life Cult of the Jedi, the Dark Side and Narcissism
    ...or something better, lol.. but then if you deliver, that is a video getting several million views
    Peace

    • @pickle9753
      @pickle9753 10 місяців тому +2

      😂😂😂🤟🔥

    • @pickle9753
      @pickle9753 10 місяців тому +1

      I dig the way I heard the second one in my head…thanks 🔥🖖😂😂😂😂

  • @gfy2979
    @gfy2979 10 місяців тому +2

    cult of RICHARD GRANNON

  • @queenoftemplar
    @queenoftemplar 10 місяців тому

    ❤❤❤🎉🎉

  • @cultivateyourself
    @cultivateyourself 10 місяців тому

    World building.
    Blade Runner
    Alien
    Conman the barbarian
    There will be blood
    The matrix

  • @AnswerInTheEnigma
    @AnswerInTheEnigma 3 місяці тому

    Narcissisric entities are.... maybe.... many as in the number.... not a name.... but I'm dumb.... I do not if this the real translation, numeric meaning, in the original first manuscrit.. I can say Whatever, no oones reads!!!! Funny....

  • @kpw66
    @kpw66 8 місяців тому

    I think that you are antagonising religion. No one is forcing me to believe and I started to deeply believe in Christ.

    • @GwenSimmons-xw1gs
      @GwenSimmons-xw1gs 3 місяці тому

      The false narcissistic “apostle” Paul and his leavenous doctrine led the church away from their first love - Jesus Just as Christ warned them would happen. Pauline doctrine is anti-Christ. He created CONFUSION and COGNITIVE DISSONANCE on purpose. His epistles were bound separately from the gospels in the early church age. It wasn’t until 400 years later that the wholely corrupt Roman Catholic church ADDED TO in its canon his epistles. Christ NEVER gave his disciples authority over the believers. Only Paul declared that. Christ said they would not be like the gentiles with a hierarchal authority over them… he said just the opposite. The greatest among you will be a servant under you. What happens in the secular political realm happens in religion. Our civil servants who are supposed to serve under the people are now ruling over the people…keep in mind, as a Pharisee, Paul’s authority and power was threatened by the message of Christ. So he had to find a way to reclaim that authority. He did that by infiltrating the Christian church and hijacking the doctrine of Christ, which is exactly what Christ warned the disciples would happen if they were not careful , if they followed the leavenous teaching of a Pharisee