Most Izotope plugins are like a great set of training wheels. They are really helpful to the novice engineer. There are some things that every engineer can make great use of for sure. But I think we can get the most out of these if we learn to integrate these concepts into our own workflow and routine. If someone puts in the time to truly takes full advantage of these great plugins, then they will soon outgrow them. I just wanted to share that perspective because in other comments sections I have sensed that some people assume they no longer need to put in the work to hone their craft because Izotope can just do everything for them from now until the end of time.. For some people that might be what brings them joy, More power to them.. But for those of us determined to take our mix game to the next level and beyond, we know the hard work will never suddenly end because of 1 or several plugins. Even with plugins as amazing as the ones made by Izotope. I’m not saying this i response to anything that anyone here has said. I was just thinking about this earlier and felt like sharing after reading this..
@@jeffTcorbin81 I agree. It's really comprehensive but production is as much an art as it is a craft and both, more or less, need that human element to really stand out.
Izotope will soon release a DAW, and all you need to do is load your project and it will mix and master it. I mean there's neutron 3, ozone 9 and Nectar, with all the other add ons.
I have been making music since 8 years, I tried so many things and never I had any great results And in one video I find all the strategy to solve so many of my problem, I see so much more now I feel amazing, stupide and also thankful that I did not have to keep going with no knowledge of how pro do it
make sure to look for more information. one video won't teach you everything. look on reddit, gearsluts and other youtube video to get a more holistic perspective
You certainly need great ear for vocal and I have great understanding to know the difference So Nectar 3 cleans up the vocals, change the dynamics 👍 look forward to using it more
I love this approach of showing the software huge capacity by a musical project from start to finish as a creative process. Just a tiny tipp: Could you apply a little RX repair for your own voice to reduce some of the harsh sticky plosives. Thank you!
Wow i was kinda scared i was constantly thinking nooooo why does it still sound like they vocals and the instrumental are fightningn over the spotlight but then this part came 17:14 you guys are amazing
Very nice. I learned a couple new tricks from this. Can any Izotope plugins do spectral ducking/unmasking like I can do with Smart:Comp, perhaps with Sculptor? That type of dynamic unmasking is incredibly transparent and helpful.
There are, surprisingly, a plethora of free plugins available that are quite powerful. Frankly, you don't need Izotope or any other paid plugins to engineer great music. I'd be happy to share some recommendations for free plugins if you like.@@helpng4688
WOW this Plugins are the first in the market to un-teach you how to mix ! really amazing technology but it basically mix the whole song by itself and if i were a beginner i will never learned that way ... don't get me wrong you are making great software plugins but all the AI in my opinion is making the next generation of mixing engineers much worst ! even in this nice presentation with great narration and explanation you hear real volume changes when fx is bypassed ... and you really got impressed by loudness especially with the reverb example ... now some times the point is to make stuff louder but even then i am always comparing the levels of before and after , and only then i will give it the amount of boost needed :) anyway thanks for the video and plugins i hope i wrong about the future of mixing engineers
Un-teach is hard: iZotope AI presets based on the material we give can be just a mixing (here) start, with us questioning if all modules added by the AI are really relevant, and if they are there's also the precise parameter values on all these modules to question again. That can be a way to teach, just differently. But what you say about levels is true. Especially around 11:35 when there is an unfair A/B with levels so different... Frustrating and borderline because there is the Match button on Nectar 3 so it was easy to propose us a fair comparison. So iZotope, please don't do that anymore because THIS kind of A/B is exactly the idea of un-teaching Avi is talking about here. And few people will understand how your A/B was unfair at the end of the video because human ears love volume and without the Match button activated it's far more difficult for us to really hear what Nectar 3 is really doing on the video. Beyond understanding regarding all efforts done by iZotope to teach mixing and mastering notions all the time, for example on their blog. How can they destroy this remarkable job with dangerous A/Bs like this one? And it's not the only iZotope's video doing this kind of wrong A/Bs... :(
I agree with you on the AI doing the job, but then that's what you pay for. Again, a keen learner will try and understand what the AI is doing and why, that's why videos like this are important. I'm sure when sound packs became a thing, music players had issues with producers not knowing how to play musical instruments. There will always be a place for the original creatives.
Just because you can do something doesn't always mean you should. Too many songs today are over corrected and they bore people after a few listens. It's all about the choices you make, when is too much too much and when is not enough not enough.
Do you guys have or plan to do an in depth video on insight 2? I would love to see how to dial in common LUFS, True Peak, and RMS mixing levels for UA-cam, Spotify on a video. A lot of the settings I just don't understand and end up going back to my waves Paz and other things.
hi is unmasking dynamic ? i mean the unmasking eq will be there for whole song or just when vocal hits? ..is there any way to know or see that eq setting?.... btw i feel u guys sud work on making a daw ..it will be a game changer for sure
The problem with over correcting things is it robs the life and shelf life of the track. It's the anomalies and mistakes that make things interesting for the long haul. Pop music today has a short shelf life because it's too perfect and the listener doesn't stay engaged very long.
Emma Harrop why would you like to use it as a preset? Every session and every new song needs a different process so I would not use presets in mixing. The whole vocal assistant is basically a big preset that listens what should be added or take away, so you would not need to save it as preset.
@@Domiviio i think he was asking if you can add presets that are in nectar 3 along with the the vocal assistant copy, which you cant @emmaHarrop, I usually will do the assistant, than if i want to add a preset as well thats in nectar, just open another nectar and add the preset, i usually end up dialing that preset back a bit so it doesnt over produced
Some DAWs that use AU format plug-ins require the computer to be restarted in order for them to show up and be scanned in properly. If after a restart you still do not see your AU plug-ins in the DAW, feel free to reach out to our Customer Care: support@izotope.com
I would probably back off some on the masking EQ effect, as the volumes of those masking instruments are fluctuating to the point of drawing attention to themselves in a distracting way...so that's maybe even worse than the audio masking they had been doing before the effect was used.
Just thinking about this..I don't see why he didn't adjust the vocal levels of original vs processed tracks more evenly for apples for apples comparison after each module adjustment, the treated track seemed too loud and uneven. As far as the un mask feature demo.. going back to reduce the high levels of the offending instrument tracks I suspect would be the better solution (?).. but neat that un-mask is able to make some noticeable improvement.
Especially around 11:35 when there is an unfair A/B with levels so different... Frustrating and borderline because there is the Match button on Nectar 3 so it was easy to propose us a fair comparison.
@@ManchesterMusic thx, tried that and no dice :( i emailed izotope and they started to help me but then stopped replying altogether. not good considering the amount of money i dropped on rx8 advanced
You should have melodyne 5, right? Melodyne 5 will take care of any breaths. Look it up on here, it is flat out amazing at taking out breaths and controlling the "s" sounds.
What's so bad about breaths? Humans breathe. It shows that we're alive. I think there's too much "cleaning up" going on in music production nowadays. People get obesessive-compulsive and perfectionistic about "fixing" every tiny little thing and all these "corrections" add up to a totally over-produced, artificial-sounding product in the end. I also remember reading about a study that was done where they played the participants a Beyoncé vocal track two times, once with all the breaths removed and once with the breaths included. The result was that people rated the performance with the breaths as much more emotionally captivating. So with all this over-editing, producers are literally sucking the emotion and humanity out of the music.
Video name should be: how to mix vocals from start to finish with our products (i know it's the izotope company's youtube channel and they obviously want to sell you stuff but luring in visitors with this title is is dishonest imo)
Ey guess what? If you have the whooole izotope bundle, u CAN actually mix everything from start to finish with only their products. Which is the point of their video.
I feel hyper stupide to have spent 200$ on waves plugins, that are more visual make over than Real algorithm plugin with Real fonction That do stupide, i bought waves because i did not know about izotope, i think that if more tutoriel or influencer were talking about it, it would be easier for New comer
izotope plugins are probably the highest quality in the industry
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Can't argue with you there.
Most Izotope plugins are like a great set of training wheels. They are really helpful to the novice engineer. There are some things that every engineer can make great use of for sure. But I think we can get the most out of these if we learn to integrate these concepts into our own workflow and routine. If someone puts in the time to truly takes full advantage of these great plugins, then they will soon outgrow them.
I just wanted to share that perspective because in other comments sections I have sensed that some people assume they no longer need to put in the work to hone their craft because Izotope can just do everything for them from now until the end of time.. For some people that might be what brings them joy, More power to them..
But for those of us determined to take our mix game to the next level and beyond, we know the hard work will never suddenly end because of 1 or several plugins. Even with plugins as amazing as the ones made by Izotope.
I’m not saying this i response to anything that anyone here has said. I was just thinking about this earlier and felt like sharing after reading this..
@@jeffTcorbin81 I agree. It's really comprehensive but production is as much an art as it is a craft and both, more or less, need that human element to really stand out.
Future is here. Thank you *iZotope!*
Izotope will soon release a DAW, and all you need to do is load your project and it will mix and master it. I mean there's neutron 3, ozone 9 and Nectar, with all the other add ons.
still waiting for that DAW
This is VERY helpful! No fluff, just straight to the point. I appreciate the team at Izotope. Spot on! -Herbo
Izotope is the Adobe of audio🐐🐐
I feel like this is going to make recording in my untreated home studio waay easier!
Voice denoise you will use constantly for background sound
Mo 11 na you should still focus on treatment most important part of vocals
@@KeenApollo True
This helps and will go a long way with Insight. Awesome video.
You guys are the best and you have always been.
I have been making music since 8 years, I tried so many things and never I had any great results
And in one video I find all the strategy to solve so many of my problem, I see so much more now
I feel amazing, stupide and also thankful that I did not have to keep going with no knowledge of how pro do it
make sure to look for more information. one video won't teach you everything. look on reddit, gearsluts and other youtube video to get a more holistic perspective
@@holidaycomplex True. Never stick to one source
izotope mastering essentials is the best... period😎
this is actually fucking crazy. the program is actually really good. Usually computerized detecting is trash but izotope is actually REALLY good.
thank you.... you guys are making mixing easy.
You certainly need great ear for vocal and I have great understanding to know the difference
So Nectar 3 cleans up the vocals, change the dynamics 👍 look forward to using it more
Awesome tutorial!. Please keep making more like this one. Thanks.
This has solved my number one problem
Thank you izotope
This is just incredible. THANK YOU!!!
This is soooo high tech! Impressive! Really cool to see and hear.
I love this approach of showing the software huge capacity by a musical project from start to finish as a creative process.
Just a tiny tipp: Could you apply a little RX repair for your own voice to reduce some of the harsh sticky plosives. Thank you!
You can NEVER go wrong with Izotope
really kicking myself for not watching this when I first bought Nectar, fml. wonderful video.
Wow i was kinda scared i was constantly thinking nooooo why does it still sound like they vocals and the instrumental are fightningn over the spotlight but then this part came 17:14 you guys are amazing
the design of these plugins compared to Nectar 2 is night and day! Also the auto-mixing feature is insanely cool 🔥
Thank you for sharing!
Very nice. I learned a couple new tricks from this. Can any Izotope plugins do spectral ducking/unmasking like I can do with Smart:Comp, perhaps with Sculptor? That type of dynamic unmasking is incredibly transparent and helpful.
impossible to afford for someone in a third world country here everyone uses cracks but my conscience wont just let me
There are, surprisingly, a plethora of free plugins available that are quite powerful. Frankly, you don't need Izotope or any other paid plugins to engineer great music. I'd be happy to share some recommendations for free plugins if you like.@@helpng4688
very great software
WOW this Plugins are the first in the market to un-teach you how to mix !
really amazing technology but it basically mix the whole song by itself and if i were a beginner i will never learned that way ...
don't get me wrong you are making great software plugins but all the AI in my opinion is making the next generation of mixing engineers much worst !
even in this nice presentation with great narration and explanation you hear real volume changes when fx is bypassed ... and you really got impressed by loudness especially with the reverb example ... now some times the point is to make stuff louder but even then i am always comparing the levels of before and after , and only then i will give it the amount of boost needed :) anyway thanks for the video and plugins i hope i wrong about the future of mixing engineers
lol we tried to teach ourselves but we only end up guessing most of the time. I'm happy there is a way to finally automate everything!
Un-teach is hard: iZotope AI presets based on the material we give can be just a mixing (here) start, with us questioning if all modules added by the AI are really relevant, and if they are there's also the precise parameter values on all these modules to question again. That can be a way to teach, just differently.
But what you say about levels is true. Especially around 11:35 when there is an unfair A/B with levels so different... Frustrating and borderline because there is the Match button on Nectar 3 so it was easy to propose us a fair comparison. So iZotope, please don't do that anymore because THIS kind of A/B is exactly the idea of un-teaching Avi is talking about here. And few people will understand how your A/B was unfair at the end of the video because human ears love volume and without the Match button activated it's far more difficult for us to really hear what Nectar 3 is really doing on the video.
Beyond understanding regarding all efforts done by iZotope to teach mixing and mastering notions all the time, for example on their blog. How can they destroy this remarkable job with dangerous A/Bs like this one? And it's not the only iZotope's video doing this kind of wrong A/Bs... :(
I agree with you on the AI doing the job, but then that's what you pay for. Again, a keen learner will try and understand what the AI is doing and why, that's why videos like this are important. I'm sure when sound packs became a thing, music players had issues with producers not knowing how to play musical instruments. There will always be a place for the original creatives.
@@chike1866True
Just because you can do something doesn't always mean you should. Too many songs today are over corrected and they bore people after a few listens. It's all about the choices you make, when is too much too much and when is not enough not enough.
Do you guys have or plan to do an in depth video on insight 2? I would love to see how to dial in common LUFS, True Peak, and RMS mixing levels for UA-cam, Spotify on a video. A lot of the settings I just don't understand and end up going back to my waves Paz and other things.
So if I'm on ableton will I have ARA??
For the prep stage, when using De-noise, breath control and mouth de-click, what order of these 3 will give the best result?
hi is unmasking dynamic ? i mean the unmasking eq will be there for whole song or just when vocal hits? ..is there any way to know or see that eq setting?.... btw i feel u guys sud work on making a daw ..it will be a game changer for sure
Thank You!
does anyone else know why i cant find melodyne with my full izotope production suite purchase? also is melodyne compatible with FL studio ?
Legendary
All of a sudden I'm really starting to like Robert Johnsons recordings from 1936....
The problem with over correcting things is it robs the life and shelf life of the track. It's the anomalies and mistakes that make things interesting for the long haul. Pop music today has a short shelf life because it's too perfect and the listener doesn't stay engaged very long.
Can you plz make a video on how and when to use replay
I use rent-to-own on Splice, do I not get access to Melodyne???
same! I'm wondering that as well!
Hey guys. As soon as you complete your rent to own cycle you get a serial for Melodyne 4 essential.
iZotope, Inc. thank you!
@@iZotopeOfficial I've already bought Melodyne Essential as I didn't know about this! Can you upgrade me to Assistant? :D
What is the first thing called at the beginning with the breathing?
Rx-Melodyne-Nectars 3-Relay-
Tank you so much
Ugh mouth clicks. My nemesis.
I sing to backing tracks would these plucking be helpful forgot to mention i have nectar 3 just not sure which one s to get
Someone please tell me he use unmask or relay on master track ?
Is it possible to add the presets in conjunction with the changes made by vocal assistant or do you have to start from scratch?
Emma Harrop why would you like to use it as a preset? Every session and every new song needs a different process so I would not use presets in mixing. The whole vocal assistant is basically a big preset that listens what should be added or take away, so you would not need to save it as preset.
@@Domiviio i think he was asking if you can add presets that are in nectar 3 along with the the vocal assistant copy, which you cant @emmaHarrop, I usually will do the assistant, than if i want to add a preset as well thats in nectar, just open another nectar and add the preset, i usually end up dialing that preset back a bit so it doesnt over produced
i just bought the everything bundle and installed everything but rx7 advanced is not showing up in my audio units
Some DAWs that use AU format plug-ins require the computer to be restarted in order for them to show up and be scanned in properly.
If after a restart you still do not see your AU plug-ins in the DAW, feel free to reach out to our Customer Care: support@izotope.com
It only costs 150K to buy all the software needed
No neutron with nectar?
I would probably back off some on the masking EQ effect, as the volumes of those masking instruments are fluctuating to the point of drawing attention to themselves in a distracting way...so that's maybe even worse than the audio masking they had been doing before the effect was used.
So *that's* how you use melodyne!
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Just thinking about this..I don't see why he didn't adjust the vocal levels of original vs processed tracks more evenly for apples for apples comparison after each module adjustment, the treated track seemed too loud and uneven. As far as the un mask feature demo.. going back to reduce the high levels of the offending instrument tracks I suspect would be the better solution (?).. but neat that un-mask is able to make some noticeable improvement.
Especially around 11:35 when there is an unfair A/B with levels so different... Frustrating and borderline because there is the Match button on Nectar 3 so it was easy to propose us a fair comparison.
How create unmasking sources track?
Which instrument in this track?
Any autotune in izotope?
Yes! Read all about it: www.izotope.com/en/products/mix/nectar/features-and-comparison/pitch.html
I`m mixing my track in this order,you can check the results
when you have everything except neutron and insight... lol
Just take my money
Song name?
It’s in the description
!DAW
SUBTITULOS?
AND WHAT ABPUT MASTERING?
It's all about mixing (and not mastering) here, as the video title says it clearly.
I literally cannot hear any difference between the two samples on his first action.
yeah the breathiness is still there i dont think he chose the right spot
very complicated
mouth declicking.. probably one of the kinkiest modules ever... 4:44
breath control isn't picking up any obvious breaths.
Try gain mode instead of target mode.
@@ManchesterMusic thx, tried that and no dice :( i emailed izotope and they started to help me but then stopped replying altogether. not good considering the amount of money i dropped on rx8 advanced
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You should have melodyne 5, right? Melodyne 5 will take care of any breaths. Look it up on here, it is flat out amazing at taking out breaths and controlling the "s" sounds.
What's so bad about breaths? Humans breathe. It shows that we're alive. I think there's too much "cleaning up" going on in music production nowadays. People get obesessive-compulsive and perfectionistic about "fixing" every tiny little thing and all these "corrections" add up to a totally over-produced, artificial-sounding product in the end.
I also remember reading about a study that was done where they played the participants a Beyoncé vocal track two times, once with all the breaths removed and once with the breaths included. The result was that people rated the performance with the breaths as much more emotionally captivating. So with all this over-editing, producers are literally sucking the emotion and humanity out of the music.
Video name should be: how to mix vocals from start to finish with our products (i know it's the izotope company's youtube channel and they obviously want to sell you stuff but luring in visitors with this title is is dishonest imo)
Ey guess what? If you have the whooole izotope bundle, u CAN actually mix everything from start to finish with only their products. Which is the point of their video.
and all this for nothing. :D caue i dont feel any sync between the vocal and music
Subtitlles please. Spanish.
I feel hyper stupide to have spent 200$ on waves plugins, that are more visual make over than Real algorithm plugin with Real fonction
That do stupide, i bought waves because i did not know about izotope, i think that if more tutoriel or influencer were talking about it, it would be easier for New comer
This video has the worst vocal mastering
Thank you!