I just want to point out from the perspective of a person with legit carpal tunnel. It is not limited to just your fingers. Your entire arm will go numb, and not only that it will result in some of the most horrific pain you can imagine. I thought my nerves were dying. I have had to sleep with braces on both of my hands for over a year now, and it has only dulled down a bit. Carpal tunnel is no joke. It can happen immediately with barely any warning.
@@S1SON I imagine you probably experience a different level of severity than I do. I can play point and click games for a short period of time but when my hands start to go numb and that's when I know I have stop or it's going to be hell.
@@S1SON Carpal Tunnel can resolve itself on its own. You could have experienced a minor form of it. I would personally take extra precautions to make sure you don't get the full-blown condition if I were you.
@@FriginHavoc i play competitive csgo and i put my arm down 1 day and my whole arm went numb for 3 seconds so now i take breaks every hour and do stretches and try to stay safe. havnt had a real issue yet but sometimes still feel a LITTle bit of numbness and i hope it goes away so i dont have to quit my dreams 😪
@@FriginHavoc Quick question. I played video games in the morning for like an hour or so but then i stopped and out of know where my thumb feels weird and i cannot move it right. When i put pressure on it for example like pressing a button it bends. I dont have pain or numbness. It just feels a bit weak. Should i go to the doctor?
Thank you so much! I kept thinking I had carpal tunnel and tried every stretching exercise but the problem wouldn’t go away. It turns out it was cubital tunnel syndrome this whole time. This video is a life saver!
The distinction between compression of the carpal tunnel and forearm muscle fatigue was really helpful. I didn't even know the symptoms of Carpal Tunnel Syndrome and just assumed my soreness was a symptom until I watched this video. Thank you or clearing that up.
I've also got anxiety about this and this video just makes me more terrified about my health, because as it stands, there won't be anything i can do about it.
I love the idea of this being "for gamers". Obviously it's helpful for anyone who sits for a long time and uses a mouse and/or keyboard, but I feel like gamers are the most stubborn about doing this kind of stuff or are just uninformed. 10/10 would stretch again
I dont use a wrist wrest and I have my elbows ALWAYS HORIZONTAL and with space, but maybe because when I Am playing fortnite(kbm) I maybe do tio much pressure and I only felt that pain 2 times in my life one like 5 months ago and the other more than a year ago! I play exacly like 10:36 but felt that pain one day and I was worried if it was tendonitis, maybe the long palmar one!! But thank um soo much for making my doubts disappear!!
The two things he said, that cause CTS, I've been doing for the last 8 months gaming on k&m. I've been to emergency 3 times complaining about numbness. Everybody just got really quit after describing to symptoms. I had to research on my own, to find out what was going on with me. I remember it started the first time I tried k&m for gaming, it strained my fingers, so I stayed on controller. I decided to give it another try, and now that's my preferred method of input. I also have old hand, wrists, and finger injuries that makes me a prime candidate for CTS. Since they won't treat my condition, I've resorted to hand, fingers, wrists exercises, and going hybrid. Wish I would have found this video before I started keyboarding. I even used to rest my wrist on my desk when I used controller.
In order to prevent this carpel tunnel shit, I watch this vid, like, subscribed, and watch this guy streaming on Twitch all the time. Thanks Dr. Fracno for providing solution
Fracno, my girlfriend and I are both avid astrophotographers and gamers. We love crushing n00bs in the morning and then imaging star clusters, galaxies and nebulae in the evening. So I feel you and your channel. Much appreciation from Alberta. Take care and thank you for the service you provide to the gaming community!
Found this channel cause my wrist was sore after using a wrist rest and oh boy was this an eye opener. My wrist was sore but no numbness prior. I tossed it to the side, moved my mouse pad farther back on my desk and started going through some of your other videos. Good to know man. Subbed, the wrist excercises are already a good help. Turns out its just general fatigue which makes sense when I play for like 8 hours.
Thank you so much for sharing this! I've been really scared that I might not be able to draw again because I thought I had early stages of carpal tunnel syndrome or something serious, but after watching your videos and reflecting on my habits. I tend to sleep and clench my arms tightly, I also rest my arms on my knees and put pressure on them a lot, and when I'm at my desk i always have my arms close to my body in a position that might be causing the pain too. I'll try my best to reduce these habits in the coming month and see what happens.
@@szymon200000 I'm currently still working on my bad posture. I've noticed that my muscles are sore more often due to the fact that I've had these habits for years and now I'm trying to correct them all of a sudden and my body doesn't like that much. My arm doesn't hurt as much nowadays but that might also be because I'm drawing less.
@@katechaste I hope it gets better for you! It was just recently that I started noticing I hold mice, pencils, etc. so hard like these things were about to escape my hand any minute. Having a visual reminder on my hand when I work helps me a lot. The pain is also a reminder but an unnecessary one lol
I love your videos Fracno, every time I click on one I find myself learning and just being happier in general. Keep up the epic work and I’m so glad that I know about how to prevent carpal tunnel and how to make sure no misinformation or mis-diagnosis is spread among myself and social circle! You’re awesome :)
Fracno, I’m happy that you care enough to make these awesome videos! All of the effort and personality you put in is almost unparalleled by most youtubers and you care enough to read all your comments too! I know when you grow into a channel with millions of subs you won’t be able to read all the comments but I feel like I’m getting a Backstage pass to a concert whenever youtubers respond or like my comments and I think your whole channel and community is awesome and I hope it gets even bigger than it already is! I’ll stop will all the cheesy stuff but I hope you have a great day and I’ll try and catch your next stream!
It's flawed sure, but so are all animals in some extents, now consider that humans have treatments are surgery against most things that can affect the human body. There even is a simple surgery for carpal tunnel where rhey make a small incision in ur wrist and then slice the carpal tunnel nerve which should release pressure and remove the tingling + numbness permenantly... so it's only as flawed as your knowledge of medical treatment.
Wow, honestly, thank you so much. Most informative and helpful video I've seen. I'm working on changing my setup but have been having constant pain in my pinky/palm to forearm area. I'm getting an upright mouse and losing the wrist rest until I can get a different chair/desk to adjust the height and angle of my elbow/forearms. Thank you so much!
Key word, "rest." When resting, drop to the wrist rest. When working (i.e. typing), get your wrists up in the air, where your wrist and fingers are the least stressed. Then, when resting, go ahead, drop your wrists, and take a break.
Really loving what your doing.... I'm a competitive Fortnite player and my hands started hurting... Thank goodness I found your channel and due to the many videos you've made.. I've made a fast recovery
Thank God for this video! I have always been paranoid about Carpal Tunnel Syndrome because my mom had it. I think it may have just been a rumor, but I thought for some reason it was hereditary. Either way, I am still thankful for the video, and luckily for me, I have a pretty good placement of my wrists while gaming already. This video will now just reinforce me from any more carpal tunnel paranoia!
man every time i stat talking to my friends about a subject you make a video about it man. First it was all the "gaming" energy drinks, then standing desks, and now wrist rests. Love the vids Fracno much love keep em coming man.
Happen to be using the wooting wrist rest lol, not only that but the 60he which is the fastest keyboard on the market with pretty crazy features. If anyone is serious about competitive gaming, definitely buy one for yourself. Game changer for me, I mainly play cs2
That towel solution was a lifesaver (my setup doesn't look good anyway so I'm not picky). I also have this vertical ergonomic mouse to help keep my wrist off my desk. A lot of people say it's not their favorite for fps games but I've used it for so long I'm used to it for pretty much anything
hey, thankyou for making this vid, cause alot of other vids ive watched seemed to be vague, and dont give enough details to how it actually relates to how we use work/gaming areas, either that or i just miss those points. lol. ive been waking up with numb thumb index and middle fingers for the past 2 years, im 27, and i watched your hand strech vid and it is awesome. im due for another wrist check scan soon. i also found that getting tkl or 60% board has really help with getting into comfortable positions, ive also been contemplating whether or not to get a wrist brace to help reduce excisive motion during computer usage. im also an engineering student, so that cant really be help. your intro is awesome. anyway, thanks heaps for your vids. i hope to catch your streams one day.
Every comment you get? Well, you are very handsome, your set-up is CLEAN. You are very informative. I love all and any of your videos. Your video scripting, formating, editing, everything is TOP NOTCH and you should feel very proud. Also. Fucking RAD Sleeves, man. Keep up the great work! I cannot wait to watch you grow!
Love the increased awareness toward this condition (although it is rarely CTS)!! Want to just say however what you mention around 1:50 about permanent damage is not true. PNS shows the capacity to regenerate compared to CNS - we have to be mindful of the beliefs we create for our community :) Regardless love the video and the quality
What you are saying false, Franco is correct. A simple google search will show you that Carpal Tunnel injury can cause permanent damage. Be mindful of the beliefs we create for our community.
Devin Fuller appreciate the response but google provides some confirmation bias 🙂 - check peripheral nervous system regeneration and look up pubmed research articles relating to treatment of chronic carpal tunnel syndrome ✌🏻
@@1HP I work in Occupational Therapy, for the past few years. Not sure if you are familiar with what we do, but we see hand-related injuries all day every day. Right now I have a patient with incurable carpal tunnel. They will never get better with traditional treatment. Their PNS has failed them. I am unsure what your experience is, however, I would love to know.
@Devin Fuller I'm a DPT and orthopedic clinical specialist and have been treating gaming injuries for the past 5 years. I have had to untangle a lot of beliefs associated with MD/Online/Orthopedic Surgeon education influencing their pain system (a la lorimer mosely's / pain revolution / CNS sensitization). Often this leads to the incresased sensitivity and the pain is not representative of the state of the tissues. I have worked with at least 20-30 gamers who have had severe CTS diagnosed through MD, through nerve conduction studies, etc. which could have been avoided just through proper education around load and pain system knowledge. Many of these are gamers who have dealt with the pain over 4-5 years leading to multiple visits to physicians and exploring Dr. Google leading to more beliefs we have to untangle As you know PT's work closely with Occupational therapists so I love and respect what you do. I think there is a gap in current healthcare knowledge around gaming injuries, specifically CTS (since as i mentioned it is almost never CTS but more tendinopathy)
I discovered your videos maybe a few weeks ago but you deserve so many more subs and views. Your videos are very high quality and it shows you do your research, I hope you blow up man :)
Great video! Learned a lot of useful things about the symptoms I've been having. And I think I'll definitely buy that new chair I've been looking at, my arm rests are a good inch below the surface of my desk.
I remember when I was 13 and jitter clicked a lot and got a bad wrist painand I ran to my dad crying cause I had carpal tunnel syndrom, th funny thing is that I had just fell onto my wrists 20 minutes ago but I thought it was the jitter click
Hmm will keep this in mind but I will mention I hover my hands I never rest them. Reason why is similar to why drawers don’t put their wrist on paper it has to do with the muscles in the wrist up through the arm. I literally felt it in my muscle all the way up my arm whilst doing it. Plus it makes typing easier.
So scared to be on my laptop now because of me having signs of carpal tunnel. first it came with a bruise on my wrist, then lately i’ve been having tingiing in my hands. ugh
fun fact you don't have carpal tunnel if your seat is too low it's just have no blood flow, the human hand is like a bunch of rivers if your too low the red blood cells have to work overtime just to get to your hands
You need to get designing and TM it - this info was outstanding. You also saved me wasting more money on a new wrist rest. I ditched mine and it actually changed my world. Thanks ;)
Dude. This video was amazing. So incredibly informative. You thought of everything. I have no questions left. Thanks for doing what you do this video helped me a lot. Keep it up you going places!
I've been watching your video series on how to improve gaming ergonomics and I feel it's really helping my setup and my comfort thank you for your help. I believe the culprit for my wrist pain is my keyboard. It's a nice full size mechanical keyboard but it's also quite high off the desk. My fingers are doing a 3.5 centimetre high jump every time they want to get on the keyboard with no ramp to rest on.
On the delta hub wrist rest. They actually make one that is lighter and has a strap that goes around your wrist to keep it in place. I just dont see paying 50$ for it.
fracno i didn’t experience any medical issues that i needed a remedy for but this was very entertaining and i enjoyed! and i have subscribed and i hope you pump out more juicy content like this because it made those 12 minutes and 6 seconds amazing
I would say it is accurate, but i play in high elo, intense fight all the time, for me i dont put my entire forearm on the desk, i always put my arm halfway, especially during long hours, because i realise my forearm tend to stick onto my table when i sweat a little (can be solved with a large mousepad), and due to that i always under flick my shots not the best advice, but works for me. That being said my mouse arm always levitate a little bit since im required to swipe quickly most of the time especially doing in-game movements. no numbness at all in this position for me. - Apex Legend Master-Pred player.
me: watching start of video as he list things I don't have then listening to him saying that tingling in the fingers is carpel tunnel syndrome as I sit here with tingling in all of my fingers. me: "damn... guess I've got carpal tunnel syndrome then"
I’ve had next to no issues with my hands when concerning games(Usually had more issues with MnK though), but that all changed after not even *3 DAYS* of having a fight stick. My hand became really sore and hurt pretty badly after just messing around doing wavedashes in Tekken. That sucks too, since those things are really fun to play on.
Things are bound to hurt when your body is adapting to a new movement or skill if it utilizes muscles that you aren’t used to using. It’s not necessarily a bad thing. Monitor your pain, and if it’s lasting for longer than 2-3 days then you may need to change something. But if it’s just soreness and adapting to a new thing, some stretching and exercise will likely take care of it. Good luck and have fun!
Great video... Recently joined in on online gaming and woke up one day and my thumb, index and middle finger felt asleep.... Has been this way for about three days now... I have no idea how long it will take to go away but I'm surely going to apply your tips from this video.....
I do a lot of computer work if it's either for school or personal use, and my future goal is to be a hardware engineer so I'm gonna be using to the computer a lot more. Therefore I'm very happy I have my mom as a massage therapist so she can tell me what is wrong, and also your channel to help me learn more of some problems I may be facing and what is good medically. Keep up the good work, I genuinely love these videos.
Holy I love your videos man, they are so professional and I just cannot wait for you to blow up. Love the streams as well, keep up the great content :)
lol thanks for the video... I literally paused the video at @ 4:13 to raise my chair, adjust arm rest, and brought up the recline on my chair as shown. I am definitley a 'recline' type of lad myself when it comes to basically any type of sitting, and with that, my form is identical to 3:28. I am going to try this new position for the day, hopefully i adjust to it well and quick. Because initially it's def not as comfy, sadly. Thanks again! Keep up the great work, it is much enjoyed
I got cubital tunnel and fun fact, console gamers are more likely to get it, even though I play on PC. I had to take xrays for it and have to do stretches before and while gaming lol. Really good video !
Purchased the Kinesis Ergonomic Gaming Mechanical Keyboard, and it has been the most comfortable keyboard I have ever had. It can be set at multiple angles vertically and the fact that its a split keyboard means you can set the keyboard at an angle horizontally to relieve any of the strain further more.
I do have it which is why I had to quit pc gaming. I had to wear a restrain for my right hand for a while. I can't write 7 mins straight without pain. I switch to console which has really help.
I'm disabled and don't have much for recreation. I can xbox a lot. I hope taking a break for a few months from the Xbox and the phone this summer cures it. I can start back with a better setup what I have is murder for my wrists lol
I found the solution, just dont ever touch or rest your hand on the table, and set the mouse and keyboard at 90 degrees to your biceps and use low sensibility while gaming in order to move with the elbow instead of just the hand
Cubical syndrome? Never heard of it but I was like thinking I had carpel tunnel syndrome but I mostly had that tingly feeling in my pinky and ring finger and what you said made sense will try it
So I'm a console gamer and I've been playing call of duty for years, I've noticed that for long play sessions I've been feeling pain around my left thumb and directly under the thumb around my carpal tunnel area, now I'm not feeling any tingling at all it's just stressed pain, now based off this vid I don't believe it's carpal tunnel but maybe it is, could I get some confirmation and maybe some wrist excercises?
I appreciate you mentioning cubital tunnel, I think I am getting symptoms from it, but its not well known and a lot of people think I have carpal tunnel when my pinky and ring finger is the ones w the symptoms its nice learning about this through agamer perspective of how I should position myself!
True used to play lots of csgo and still do and after hours every day at one point my hands muscles were stiff and wouldn’t react as well when I went back the next day to play = making me bad at the game because reflexes weren’t there therefore yes it’s important to take a break
Man thanks for the tips! This discomfort on my pinky and ring finger was getting to me. It's been a week and it was getting in the way of my work. I'm gonna raise my seating height, rest my forearms on the table and maybe use a towel under my right forearm.
Glad to help. I have a ergonomic desk setup guide video as well. These days, when I game I just turn my wrist rest long ways to support my forearm. Works wonders.
Tell me the truth... do you know how to find the big dipper?
Yes! I love astronomy as well!
I can find it all the time but idk how
Nope! With all the light pollution it's hard to see any stars. And if I do see the stars I don't even know how to recognize constellations.
@Im Cuvyes I have a feeling your girlfriends harder to find than the Big Dipper. 👀
Yes! I'm also 'the astronomy guy' and I correct my friends all the time on that :D
I just want to point out from the perspective of a person with legit carpal tunnel. It is not limited to just your fingers. Your entire arm will go numb, and not only that it will result in some of the most horrific pain you can imagine. I thought my nerves were dying. I have had to sleep with braces on both of my hands for over a year now, and it has only dulled down a bit. Carpal tunnel is no joke. It can happen immediately with barely any warning.
Some great insight. Thanks for sharing!
@@S1SON I imagine you probably experience a different level of severity than I do. I can play point and click games for a short period of time but when my hands start to go numb and that's when I know I have stop or it's going to be hell.
@@S1SON Carpal Tunnel can resolve itself on its own. You could have experienced a minor form of it. I would personally take extra precautions to make sure you don't get the full-blown condition if I were you.
@@FriginHavoc i play competitive csgo and i put my arm down 1 day and my whole arm went numb for 3 seconds so now i take breaks every hour and do stretches and try to stay safe. havnt had a real issue yet but sometimes still feel a LITTle bit of numbness and i hope it goes away so i dont have to quit my dreams 😪
@@FriginHavoc Quick question. I played video games in the morning for like an hour or so but then i stopped and out of know where my thumb feels weird and i cannot move it right. When i put pressure on it for example like pressing a button it bends. I dont have pain or numbness. It just feels a bit weak. Should i go to the doctor?
I am a programmer. I barely use a mouse nor keyboard. I spend most of the time scratching my head.
As a med student I can tell you that you explained it really well.
Simple and addresses the issues
Just subscribed
Thank you!
Thank you so much! I kept thinking I had carpal tunnel and tried every stretching exercise but the problem wouldn’t go away. It turns out it was cubital tunnel syndrome this whole time. This video is a life saver!
I’m happy to hear the info helped!
i SWEAR youtube is spying on me, my recommended is getting too realistic
It’s not UA-cam, it’s me.
same here man, it's crazyy
@@FracnoTV *gasp* 👀
This guy is the most wholesome looking dude and I’m like 2 minutes in and idek what content he makes or if I like it I’m subbing
My dude.
@@FracnoTV how do i fix forearm pain from using mouse too much?
@@wcsdiaries
Get a vertical mouse, fixed it for me!
@@majingamer6109 do you have a link?
If you take a shot every time he says carpal tunnel you'll be dead by the 2 minute mark. Great video!
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I did and I made comolekua fine 👍🏼
@little pepe maybe you have.... CARPAL TUNNEL!!!!!!!
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The distinction between compression of the carpal tunnel and forearm muscle fatigue was really helpful. I didn't even know the symptoms of Carpal Tunnel Syndrome and just assumed my soreness was a symptom until I watched this video.
Thank you or clearing that up.
My guy needs more subs/views. These videos and the drink ones alone are super nice and informal, i can't get enough of this type of content
i actually had alot of anxiety about this, im super glad i found this video. thanks a million
I've also got anxiety about this and this video just makes me more terrified about my health, because as it stands, there won't be anything i can do about it.
This is totally what I needed. My wrist and forearm is in so much discomfort
I love the idea of this being "for gamers". Obviously it's helpful for anyone who sits for a long time and uses a mouse and/or keyboard, but I feel like gamers are the most stubborn about doing this kind of stuff or are just uninformed. 10/10 would stretch again
Yeah, so, I just readjusted my desk space watching this video. 🙃
That’s what I’m talking about!
I dont use a wrist wrest and I have my elbows ALWAYS HORIZONTAL and with space, but maybe because when I Am playing fortnite(kbm) I maybe do tio much pressure and I only felt that pain 2 times in my life one like 5 months ago and the other more than a year ago! I play exacly like 10:36 but felt that pain one day and I was worried if it was tendonitis, maybe the long palmar one!! But thank um soo much for making my doubts disappear!!
Thanks for saving my wrists man ❤️
The two things he said, that cause CTS, I've been doing for the last 8 months gaming on k&m. I've been to emergency 3 times complaining about numbness. Everybody just got really quit after describing to symptoms. I had to research on my own, to find out what was going on with me. I remember it started the first time I tried k&m for gaming, it strained my fingers, so I stayed on controller. I decided to give it another try, and now that's my preferred method of input. I also have old hand, wrists, and finger injuries that makes me a prime candidate for CTS. Since they won't treat my condition, I've resorted to hand, fingers, wrists exercises, and going hybrid. Wish I would have found this video before I started keyboarding. I even used to rest my wrist on my desk when I used controller.
In order to prevent this carpel tunnel shit, I watch this vid, like, subscribed, and watch this guy streaming on Twitch all the time. Thanks Dr. Fracno for providing solution
Fracno, my girlfriend and I are both avid astrophotographers and gamers. We love crushing n00bs in the morning and then imaging star clusters, galaxies and nebulae in the evening. So I feel you and your channel. Much appreciation from Alberta. Take care and thank you for the service you provide to the gaming community!
Crushing noobs? Cringefest
Genuinely love these videos man. Keep em coming.
Found this channel cause my wrist was sore after using a wrist rest and oh boy was this an eye opener. My wrist was sore but no numbness prior. I tossed it to the side, moved my mouse pad farther back on my desk and started going through some of your other videos. Good to know man. Subbed, the wrist excercises are already a good help. Turns out its just general fatigue which makes sense when I play for like 8 hours.
Spoken and described better than an occupational therapist could! Perfect man!
Excuse You, You Dont Belong Here
Get back in your orderly room!
Definitely had cubal orbital, I had no idea what was going on other than it was exacerbated by phone use. Thanks for explaining all of this!
Thank you so much for sharing this! I've been really scared that I might not be able to draw again because I thought I had early stages of carpal tunnel syndrome or something serious, but after watching your videos and reflecting on my habits.
I tend to sleep and clench my arms tightly, I also rest my arms on my knees and put pressure on them a lot, and when I'm at my desk i always have my arms close to my body in a position that might be causing the pain too.
I'll try my best to reduce these habits in the coming month and see what happens.
Well. How’s it been?
@@szymon200000 I'm currently still working on my bad posture. I've noticed that my muscles are sore more often due to the fact that I've had these habits for years and now I'm trying to correct them all of a sudden and my body doesn't like that much. My arm doesn't hurt as much nowadays but that might also be because I'm drawing less.
@@katechaste I hope it gets better for you! It was just recently that I started noticing I hold mice, pencils, etc. so hard like these things were about to escape my hand any minute. Having a visual reminder on my hand when I work helps me a lot. The pain is also a reminder but an unnecessary one lol
I love your videos Fracno, every time I click on one I find myself learning and just being happier in general. Keep up the epic work and I’m so glad that I know about how to prevent carpal tunnel and how to make sure no misinformation or mis-diagnosis is spread among myself and social circle! You’re awesome :)
Damn, this comment made me really happy to read. Thanks so much for the support, and I'm really happy the videos are helping you.
Fracno, I’m happy that you care enough to make these awesome videos! All of the effort and personality you put in is almost unparalleled by most youtubers and you care enough to read all your comments too! I know when you grow into a channel with millions of subs you won’t be able to read all the comments but I feel like I’m getting a Backstage pass to a concert whenever youtubers respond or like my comments and I think your whole channel and community is awesome and I hope it gets even bigger than it already is! I’ll stop will all the cheesy stuff but I hope you have a great day and I’ll try and catch your next stream!
this is literally the best channel im just going back through all the vids to catch up on the content
God I hate the human body. it's flawed in so many annoying ways.
love yourself
Ikr, the human body is a ticking time bomb of chemical and structural problems.
Dr. Velious love yourself
It's flawed sure, but so are all animals in some extents, now consider that humans have treatments are surgery against most things that can affect the human body. There even is a simple surgery for carpal tunnel where rhey make a small incision in ur wrist and then slice the carpal tunnel nerve which should release pressure and remove the tingling + numbness permenantly... so it's only as flawed as your knowledge of medical treatment.
But it's also amazing in so many ways.
Just stop playing 100000 hours a day and get up every 15 mins.
My friend sent me this video and told me to take a drink every time you said Carpal Tunnel, I passed out before I made it to the end. Great info!
Wow, honestly, thank you so much. Most informative and helpful video I've seen. I'm working on changing my setup but have been having constant pain in my pinky/palm to forearm area. I'm getting an upright mouse and losing the wrist rest until I can get a different chair/desk to adjust the height and angle of my elbow/forearms. Thank you so much!
Glad it was helpful!
Key word, "rest." When resting, drop to the wrist rest. When working (i.e. typing), get your wrists up in the air, where your wrist and fingers are the least stressed. Then, when resting, go ahead, drop your wrists, and take a break.
Really loving what your doing.... I'm a competitive Fortnite player and my hands started hurting... Thank goodness I found your channel and due to the many videos you've made.. I've made a fast recovery
Love to hear things like this!
Your videos have such a high quality, you really deserve so much more attention because of how valuable all your information is!
Thank God for this video! I have always been paranoid about Carpal Tunnel Syndrome because my mom had it. I think it may have just been a rumor, but I thought for some reason it was hereditary. Either way, I am still thankful for the video, and luckily for me, I have a pretty good placement of my wrists while gaming already. This video will now just reinforce me from any more carpal tunnel paranoia!
I'm happy that the information is empowering!
man every time i stat talking to my friends about a subject you make a video about it man. First it was all the "gaming" energy drinks, then standing desks, and now wrist rests. Love the vids Fracno much love keep em coming man.
Maybe you’re psychic?
Happen to be using the wooting wrist rest lol, not only that but the 60he which is the fastest keyboard on the market with pretty crazy features. If anyone is serious about competitive gaming, definitely buy one for yourself. Game changer for me, I mainly play cs2
Good ergonomics are so important. Another great vid Fracno! Thanks for the info.
Another thing with cubital tunnel is that if you sleep with your hands under your pillow can cause it too.
i... uh oh
That towel solution was a lifesaver (my setup doesn't look good anyway so I'm not picky). I also have this vertical ergonomic mouse to help keep my wrist off my desk. A lot of people say it's not their favorite for fps games but I've used it for so long I'm used to it for pretty much anything
hey, thankyou for making this vid, cause alot of other vids ive watched seemed to be vague, and dont give enough details to how it actually relates to how we use work/gaming areas, either that or i just miss those points. lol. ive been waking up with numb thumb index and middle fingers for the past 2 years, im 27, and i watched your hand strech vid and it is awesome. im due for another wrist check scan soon. i also found that getting tkl or 60% board has really help with getting into comfortable positions, ive also been contemplating whether or not to get a wrist brace to help reduce excisive motion during computer usage. im also an engineering student, so that cant really be help. your intro is awesome.
anyway, thanks heaps for your vids. i hope to catch your streams one day.
Currently, the schedule is Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday! Saturday I do an early stream so EU people can come chill.
Every comment you get?
Well, you are very handsome, your set-up is CLEAN.
You are very informative. I love all and any of your videos.
Your video scripting, formating, editing, everything is TOP NOTCH and you should feel very proud.
Also. Fucking RAD Sleeves, man.
Keep up the great work! I cannot wait to watch you grow!
Damn, that’s one hell of a comment!
Thanks for the advice. I just got diagnosed with CT and was afraid I'd have to give up pc gaming! At least now I have a few experiments to try!
Love the increased awareness toward this condition (although it is rarely CTS)!! Want to just say however what you mention around 1:50 about permanent damage is not true. PNS shows the capacity to regenerate compared to CNS - we have to be mindful of the beliefs we create for our community :)
Regardless love the video and the quality
What you are saying false, Franco is correct. A simple google search will show you that Carpal Tunnel injury can cause permanent damage. Be mindful of the beliefs we create for our community.
Devin Fuller appreciate the response but google provides some confirmation bias 🙂 - check peripheral nervous system regeneration and look up pubmed research articles relating to treatment of chronic carpal tunnel syndrome ✌🏻
@@1HP I work in Occupational Therapy, for the past few years. Not sure if you are familiar with what we do, but we see hand-related injuries all day every day.
Right now I have a patient with incurable carpal tunnel. They will never get better with traditional treatment. Their PNS has failed them. I am unsure what your experience is, however, I would love to know.
@@1HP www.ninds.nih.gov/Disorders/Patient-Caregiver-Education/Fact-Sheets/Carpal-Tunnel-Syndrome-Fact-Sheet?fbclid=IwAR23FYxJRkfU39IeDh2x0KjCgj8syCE0zOt-L-OQ_urLpCRb3cq87b9I7k8
@Devin Fuller I'm a DPT and orthopedic clinical specialist and have been treating gaming injuries for the past 5 years. I have had to untangle a lot of beliefs associated with MD/Online/Orthopedic Surgeon education influencing their pain system (a la lorimer mosely's / pain revolution / CNS sensitization). Often this leads to the incresased sensitivity and the pain is not representative of the state of the tissues.
I have worked with at least 20-30 gamers who have had severe CTS diagnosed through MD, through nerve conduction studies, etc. which could have been avoided just through proper education around load and pain system knowledge. Many of these are gamers who have dealt with the pain over 4-5 years leading to multiple visits to physicians and exploring Dr. Google leading to more beliefs we have to untangle
As you know PT's work closely with Occupational therapists so I love and respect what you do. I think there is a gap in current healthcare knowledge around gaming injuries, specifically CTS (since as i mentioned it is almost never CTS but more tendinopathy)
i recently learned about double crush. this is when you have compression of the nerve elsewhere as well such as your neck or pectoralis minor.
I discovered your videos maybe a few weeks ago but you deserve so many more subs and views. Your videos are very high quality and it shows you do your research, I hope you blow up man :)
Thats rude, if he blows up he cant make anymore videos :(
I've broken my scaphoid 3 times in my right wrist and had carpal tunnel for ages so I'm going to try a few things
Good luck! That sounds painful.
Great video! Learned a lot of useful things about the symptoms I've been having. And I think I'll definitely buy that new chair I've been looking at, my arm rests are a good inch below the surface of my desk.
Glad to help!
I remember when I was 13 and jitter clicked a lot and got a bad wrist painand I ran to my dad crying cause I had carpal tunnel syndrom, th funny thing is that I had just fell onto my wrists 20 minutes ago but I thought it was the jitter click
He the kohi gamer
another quality video, keep it up! your channel is hella underrated
Thank you!
wow thank you i thought i had it, love your content my dude, im currently binging all your content
Glad to help! Thanks for the support as well.
Hmm will keep this in mind but I will mention I hover my hands I never rest them. Reason why is similar to why drawers don’t put their wrist on paper it has to do with the muscles in the wrist up through the arm. I literally felt it in my muscle all the way up my arm whilst doing it. Plus it makes typing easier.
6:22 what an absolute chad pose
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I have carpal tunnel AND cubital tunnel, so rather than most of my hand going numb, my entire hand goes numb and feels pain
So scared to be on my laptop now because of me having signs of carpal tunnel. first it came with a bruise on my wrist, then lately i’ve been having tingiing in my hands. ugh
fun fact you don't have carpal tunnel if your seat is too low it's just have no blood flow, the human hand is like a bunch of rivers if your too low the red blood cells have to work overtime just to get to your hands
the famous drinking game is back, take a sip ( shot is way too much) every time franco says "carpal tunnel"
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You need to get designing and TM it - this info was outstanding. You also saved me wasting more money on a new wrist rest. I ditched mine and it actually changed my world. Thanks ;)
Best video to watch for anyone working at home. I'm spending 10 hours at a time on my PC and the tips you gave helped a lot!
Great Video! Your production value is incredible for such I small channel. I can't wait till you get the large amount of subs you deserve.
Dude. This video was amazing. So incredibly informative. You thought of everything. I have no questions left. Thanks for doing what you do this video helped me a lot. Keep it up you going places!
Such a great vid ! I've made it a habit to do your shoulder and wrist excercise you showed.!
I've been watching your video series on how to improve gaming ergonomics and I feel it's really helping my setup and my comfort thank you for your help. I believe the culprit for my wrist pain is my keyboard. It's a nice full size mechanical keyboard but it's also quite high off the desk. My fingers are doing a 3.5 centimetre high jump every time they want to get on the keyboard with no ramp to rest on.
Dude your quality of video, wealth of knowledge and personality is top tier! Love the content
awesome video man, just came across you and feel like i am going to be a massive fan!
On the delta hub wrist rest. They actually make one that is lighter and has a strap that goes around your wrist to keep it in place. I just dont see paying 50$ for it.
Great info man! Keep up the good work
fracno i didn’t experience any medical issues that i needed a remedy for but this was very entertaining and i enjoyed! and i have subscribed and i hope you pump out more juicy content like this because it made those 12 minutes and 6 seconds amazing
Thank you for sharing this information in an easy to digest way!
I play non claw for about 3-4 hours a day and have developed bad carpal tunnel pain in my wrist and some fingers
i have carpal tunnel syndrome working on computer for 8 hours and playing when not working hahaha... Now I regret not resting when I need it...
I would say it is accurate, but i play in high elo, intense fight all the time, for me i dont put my entire forearm on the desk, i always put my arm halfway, especially during long hours, because i realise my forearm tend to stick onto my table when i sweat a little (can be solved with a large mousepad), and due to that i always under flick my shots not the best advice, but works for me. That being said my mouse arm always levitate a little bit since im required to swipe quickly most of the time especially doing in-game movements. no numbness at all in this position for me.
- Apex Legend Master-Pred player.
Always great tips and videos FRACNO! Love it!
i came to this video worried about damaging my wrists but realized i actually get cubital tunnel syndrome because of pixel peeping in war thunder 💀
i have been getting pins and needles every once in a while and its been scaring me. im happy there is a video on this.
me: watching start of video as he list things I don't have then listening to him saying that tingling in the fingers is carpel tunnel syndrome as I sit here with tingling in all of my fingers.
me: "damn... guess I've got carpal tunnel syndrome then"
bruh this been educational to gymnastic lesson really quick 6:23
COULDNT OF SEEN THIS SOONER?!- love the vid
I’ve had next to no issues with my hands when concerning games(Usually had more issues with MnK though), but that all changed after not even *3 DAYS* of having a fight stick. My hand became really sore and hurt pretty badly after just messing around doing wavedashes in Tekken. That sucks too, since those things are really fun to play on.
Things are bound to hurt when your body is adapting to a new movement or skill if it utilizes muscles that you aren’t used to using. It’s not necessarily a bad thing. Monitor your pain, and if it’s lasting for longer than 2-3 days then you may need to change something. But if it’s just soreness and adapting to a new thing, some stretching and exercise will likely take care of it. Good luck and have fun!
Great video... Recently joined in on online gaming and woke up one day and my thumb, index and middle finger felt asleep.... Has been this way for about three days now... I have no idea how long it will take to go away but I'm surely going to apply your tips from this video.....
If you have short desk, doesn't have arm rest, buy wrist brace rather than wrist rest.
I do a lot of computer work if it's either for school or personal use, and my future goal is to be a hardware engineer so I'm gonna be using to the computer a lot more. Therefore I'm very happy I have my mom as a massage therapist so she can tell me what is wrong, and also your channel to help me learn more of some problems I may be facing and what is good medically. Keep up the good work, I genuinely love these videos.
That’s awesome! Glad I could add to your network of support.
the production quality on these videos are insane, how do you not have at least 100k subs
I’m workin on it!
Holy I love your videos man, they are so professional and I just cannot wait for you to blow up. Love the streams as well, keep up the great content :)
lol thanks for the video... I literally paused the video at @ 4:13 to raise my chair, adjust arm rest, and brought up the recline on my chair as shown. I am definitley a 'recline' type of lad myself when it comes to basically any type of sitting, and with that, my form is identical to 3:28. I am going to try this new position for the day, hopefully i adjust to it well and quick. Because initially it's def not as comfy, sadly.
Thanks again! Keep up the great work, it is much enjoyed
I got cubital tunnel and fun fact, console gamers are more likely to get it, even though I play on PC. I had to take xrays for it and have to do stretches before and while gaming lol. Really good video !
Purchased the Kinesis Ergonomic Gaming Mechanical Keyboard, and it has been the most comfortable keyboard I have ever had. It can be set at multiple angles vertically and the fact that its a split keyboard means you can set the keyboard at an angle horizontally to relieve any of the strain further more.
Nice!
That computer setup! It's beautiful 😍 I love the purple throughout it!!
Thanks!
I do have it which is why I had to quit pc gaming. I had to wear a restrain for my right hand for a while. I can't write 7 mins straight without pain. I switch to console which has really help.
I'm disabled and don't have much for recreation. I can xbox a lot. I hope taking a break for a few months from the Xbox and the phone this summer cures it. I can start back with a better setup what I have is murder for my wrists lol
I found the solution, just dont ever touch or rest your hand on the table, and set the mouse and keyboard at 90 degrees to your biceps and use low sensibility while gaming in order to move with the elbow instead of just the hand
Great video Fracno, it would also be beneficial if you add a video, talking about Gamer's Thumb
i cant express how much you telling me this has helped
Glad to help!
Cubical syndrome? Never heard of it but I was like thinking I had carpel tunnel syndrome but I mostly had that tingly feeling in my pinky and ring finger and what you said made sense will try it
So I'm a console gamer and I've been playing call of duty for years, I've noticed that for long play sessions I've been feeling pain around my left thumb and directly under the thumb around my carpal tunnel area, now I'm not feeling any tingling at all it's just stressed pain, now based off this vid I don't believe it's carpal tunnel but maybe it is, could I get some confirmation and maybe some wrist excercises?
Thank you, you made me realize that i was just having pain in my wrist and arm. And im so glad its not serious 😅
It was definitely just wrist pain from fatigue. I drive all day and game all night so they don't get a break sadly.
Check out my hand stretch video! I plan on making a video soon with Carpal Tunnel exercises and stretches specifically.
I appreciate you mentioning cubital tunnel, I think I am getting symptoms from it, but its not well known and a lot of people think I have carpal tunnel when my pinky and ring finger is the ones w the symptoms its nice learning about this through agamer perspective of how I should position myself!
I've had it from playing VR a lot, gripping my controller while playing Hot Dogs Horseshoes and Hand Grenades and Beatsaber.
True used to play lots of csgo and still do and after hours every day at one point my hands muscles were stiff and wouldn’t react as well when I went back the next day to play = making me bad at the game because reflexes weren’t there therefore yes it’s important to take a break
Shoutout to wooting! Bought my wrist rest 3 months ago and I don't regret the purchase at all!
They’re awesome!
Man thanks for the tips! This discomfort on my pinky and ring finger was getting to me. It's been a week and it was getting in the way of my work. I'm gonna raise my seating height, rest my forearms on the table and maybe use a towel under my right forearm.
Glad to help. I have a ergonomic desk setup guide video as well. These days, when I game I just turn my wrist rest long ways to support my forearm. Works wonders.