@@Kareem-si7bg imo his kit is not that hard, specially since he got really easy to use strong attacks like nair, that said, some of his other moves are very situational
The problem with Morty is the fact that they removed almost all his passives. His old rewind used to heal him and save him from being killed and it doesn't anymore also his nades don't have the second bullet that comes out anymore and splitting grenades doesn't send them both ways anymore they just fly at you and completely miss the person they were meant to hit.
yea hes gutted basically but i still have good success with him. He definitely needs help tho hes super light and has trouble killing despite being a bruiser.
As a morty main I feel the pain. His tool kit got butchered pretty horribly, even his hammer swing doesn’t complete half the time against someone as massive as iron giant which is insane. The rewind nerf is pretty egregious, but the grenade nerf was definitely the worst
I decided to grind him out and I wish I hadn't. He's got some cool stuff but the weird float state off his forward air is one of my biggest gripes. That and rewind dropped grenades have the beta physics. Side attack sends them FLYING and normal grenades barely move on contact. That and if you have snake shot, then shoot a grenade (while airborne) it wastes snake shot even though you didnt fire it.
You think? I'm a Marvin main and my friend is a Tom main.. That's what we ran at the beginning but we quickly switched because his tennis balls would attach to the enemy, so he couldn't hit them like usual.. Marvin has that issue with some other characters too; even the projectiles that are not dealing damage/has any effect on the enemy homes in on the enemy. It's kinda lame.
Gizmo is also annoying for the fact that he seems to counter projectile characters. His umbrella blocks, popcorn blocks his little box blocks and his notes block.
Well, the thing is that his grounded down special is useless, he's clunky to use right now (in the eyes of an open beta Gizmo main), and quite a few of the projectile heroes do have options for him. Morty can just spam his gun and it forces Gizmo out of his car, for example.
ironically gizmo feels the least clunky after the speed nerfs since he's still a little annoying ah midget that can zoom around, he's just a character that you constantly get better with since his car and bow and arrow have a huge skill ceiling. difference between a mediocre and rlly good gizmo is insane just like Steven universe
I’m a truly garbage platform player and not a Wonder main, so I’m honestly asking here, but like… is Banana a bad matchup for her? Because she so obviously feels really strong otherwise, but I am currently _completely stumped_ on what she’s supposed to do against a gorilla Banana. I feel like he outranges her so badly that it’s quite difficult to whiff punish him effectively, even when you’re successfully baiting out his attacks. And maybe this is all just less of an issue when you’re good enough to parry more consistently, but also then, like… doesn’t that sound like pretty shaky grounds for (attempting to build up) an entire consistent matchup strategy?? I’m a longtime traditional fighting game player, so I’m wondering (no pun intended haha) if my old biases are totally blinding me from seeing an obvious answer here.
@@deadfr0gFrom my experience as both a wonder woman and bg player i think she is. Banana Guard's specials take more priority sometimes and overall can just truck through a lot of her attacks. I'm decent at the game but have no technical understanding of good/bad matchups, yet I do believe unless you're just really good at countering him Wonder Woman isn't the best pick
As a tom n jerry beta main, I haven't been playing him because shooting jerry or shooting tennis balls currently results in a massive frame drop 90% of the time. I suspect this is why not many are playing him right now. I play on a console. Looking forward to some jerry sniping when they get the console issues sorted.
Yeah playing this game even on current gen sucks sometimes. Input lag and frame drops are FREQUENT. Not just common, it happens FREQUENTLY. As a Bugs main (bite me) its absolutely abysmal
You know that's desync it's to do with the overall connection each player has in that game if the Jake is laggy then does we all experience that jank so it desyncs
As a steven main i can say that the removal of the support class made steven into a nasty combo character, if you get into the stevn vaccum with a wall above you its over
@@xanander4693 they're accomodating for the fact that more people will be playing 1v1 than 2v2, so they made all the characters viable for 1v1. Support classes were made for 2v2.
I'm not surprised to see Jason fall quite a bit on your list since last week, haha. TBH, I think you might still be overestimating him a little because you've seen so much of Nakat's Jason, and he's got one of the best around. In general, I think he could use a little tweaking to reach a point that feels good to play.
Harley Quinn can just make Jason explode, he has nearly no answers to her approaches, the only times I've lost to Jason after the first couple of days is when I'm throwing because I want to finish dailys.
Yeah I get chased alot a horror villain that's supposed to chase. But his attacks are actually so broken rn his neutral air grab have ring out if they have 90%
Glad I'm not delusional about Stripe. His combos are crazy but he just feels lacking in neutral vs. a lot of the cast. Probably still use him and try to figure out better setups until a someone comes out with a guide.
Stripe feels so bad man. Like his strings with up special into his air normals can go wild, but yeah you’re right. His neutral game is HORRENDOUS. And thus he struggles to kill outside of specific percent ranges or setups
He used to be one of if not the best character until they nerfed his gun. His gun could eventually easily kill after 50 percent if someone was off stage he was one of the most annoying and broken characters in the Beta.
Stripe is one of my favorite characters. His combos do a lot of damage and he can surprise kill you with his gun but once you know the shot is coming it's easy to predict and dodge. In doubles though if he tags you so you have his mark and the other guy juggles you up to the top, it's just a kill you can't avoid so he's super funny in that respect. Also he's really safe because you can threaten with Dynamite in your hand and hold it as long as you want, if you take his Perk where after biting the dynamite, the next structure he hits also explodes, he's actually got amazing utility to get back on the ledge. Combined with the saw blade on some maps where you can make it spin on the platform for a while and he's actually really decent. I played him a shit load before moving to gizmo and i'd personally rank him middle B or on this graph top of strong. There was never a character i felt like i couldn't beat but also felt like i was nobody's counter at the same time. To put into context how it really feels, I almost beat Bleezy (top 8 evo player) on it. I rack up way more wins with Stripe and than taz and i mained Taz. Taz is bad right now. Lower end of good if you will. Stripe is better because he's more consistent in my opinion. The only match up i want Taz over Stripe is vs shaggy because being able to shoe his side special kick but that's it.
Stripe in underrated af. Was my main in beta (same moveset, but of course the game is different now). His combo game is actually nice as hell. Weaving a gunshot and managing his saw blade can be very abusive. Saw on platforms is kinda nuts. His sair special is strong and his upair normal is gnarly. A lot feeds into his air game which is nice. Landing grounded up attack or grounded side special into his air game while filling with his gun can be insane with the right timing. The gun really enables him to follow up much easier especially when people are trying to evade. As long as you can touch someone you can followup and gap close with the gun as filler. Also, the weird timing on a few of his moves are nice for baiting if you need a lil help on the way back to stage. Adds a nice element of mind-games when youre out in the middle of fucking nowhere. I'm taking a 1v1 take on this one. Teams is a totally different beast for stripe. I feel like there are more characters that fair better in 1v1 than they do in 2v2. I also think Taz is worse than Stripe mostly because of his kit. I feel like he has less options overall.
I feel like garnet just needs less frames on a few moves. I put in a lot of work with her way back so I make her work well but it's so much easier on other characters especially when she's in disadvantage. Her animations are super slow, but at the same time she rewards timing with some CRAZY conversions so she can potentially become touch of death With her strings tho they're also situational so you have to have the exact cooldown you need to do certain combos. But that's what makes her so satisfying for me. Learning new matchups has been great and I learned some really wild stuff with her. She's tough to play for a "just punch them" character, but satisfying Also garnet can make use of airwalkker really well too ots so fun
I think banana guard should be balanced by the devs to sit in B tier. playing against a character that’s insanely strong and simple at the same time isn’t very fun
I feel like none of his frames should be touched but his knockback, damage and a bit of his hitboxes should be touched. I like the idea of having banana guard as a combo monster that has to work for kills rather than having all of his moves kill
@@PitbullFromSuburbs well shaggy has at least a bit of nuance. Banana guard atm just feels like you’re throwing out kill moves with huge hitboxes no matter what button you press. I think they should tweak his design a bit
Every character should ideally be balanced to be as close to the rest of the roster as possible. Making balancing decisions to place certain characters in certain tiers is a bad idea.
If y’all want to see garnet’s potential just do this-multi punch,side b(rocket punch),forward dodge,multi punch,side b(elbow dash) but angle it up,depending on the enemy’s percent and position you can do side air 1 into side b again or sair 1 into up b or up air strings or sair 1 super close to the ground to go back into multi punch into another side b elbow(basically if you hit sair 1 then you can practically go into everything else really good combo extender and kill confirm from the side and upwards just use side b or up airs or up b )
As a stripe main I find most kills are either from bullet shots near the blast zone or his aerials and even then the aerials need more knockback since I've hit people with full charge up air and it still hasn't killed at over 120
I just started playing Shaggy for the first time and wow he’s amazing. Great combos, charges are really easy to pull off especially with that perk, can ko in any direction. Was he this good in the beta? It feels like discovering WW in the beta. Total natural fit for my play style
Digging this tier list. Esp Gizmo, he has options for everything but dies at like 60 esp to other top tiers. Esp in 2's get caught once and youre almost dead. People just seem not to respect the gizmo play, but that will change over time I feel. Hopefully the clean up gizmo bugs too, the nasty one is not being able to jump after weird car interactions or up special post backpack bugs.
Decided to give Garnet a try, and holy cow she's actually really good. Just so many options. Which is exactly what Banana Guard lacks. Don't get me wrong, Banana Guard has great reach and power, a very deadly combo. But Garnet has more range, and tools in general, than most of the other Bruisers except Morty and Black Adam. A projectile stopper, speed booster, and anti-armor in her dance move. Super armor in her ground neutral that sits right there with Superman's charge attacks. I find her down special to be a little lacking, more situational than you'd think because how easy it is to interrupt, but for the case of mobility it's nice. Up special in the air is kind of weak, but on the ground it's a nice interrupt and the shock damage is pretty nice. Side special has good knockback and range, and being able to control the angle mid flight is useful. Neutral is situational, wouldn't mind if it lasted a little longer, but I find you don't need more than 1 stack most of the time, and for projectile reflecting you don't even need that. 2 stacks would be great against WW if it lasted longer, or came out quicker, but it's kind of win-more at the moment. Does she feel as good to me as T&J, Steven, or Reindog? Maybe on the level of Reindog honestly, definitely on the level of Superman. Her specials are more viable than Superman's laser eyes on drop platform stages (fricken mansion) or his ice breath, in my opinion (though I forget you can freeze your ally's hands to give them damage boost) I wish Jake didn't have hurt boxes in his hands... That's all I really want.
I've been trying Stripe and I think his dash attack is pretty good at killing people. But his role seems to be to do quite a lot of damage so that your partner with better finishing moves go and do their jobs.
@@lightspaceman5064 you not lyin, gotta commit hard to whatever you do unless you flyin in neutral. The fly plus air down special is the bread and butter lol
Honestly I feel the game is pretty balanced. The majority of the cast feel strong in their own way and if played right can win games. A couple definitely outshine the rest but I don’t feel like you have to play one of the absolute best characters to keep up. As people continue to get better will be interesting to see how this shakes out but so far I think it’s pretty good.
I like Iron Giant and i main him besides Marvin the Martian but i dont use him because im bad i use him because i think the movie was one of my favorite animated movies ever and its cool seeing him in a game so i like playing as him 🫡
Stripe is so slept on his up tilt kills at like 100 and side special does too if you use his gun at peak height and on top of that he can rack up damage
Hot take: Marvin is the best 1v1 character. can box any character out. If you’re patient. Endless they only patch iron giants infinite. Because he’s the best in 1’s. I think most people are sleeping on the fire projectile perc. Makes Morty top tier I think
Ricks neutral projectile doesn’t hit like half the cast because he’s too tall, which makes some match ups significantly harder. But he’s still fun and has some strong moves.
As a Batman main I agree, he feels lackluster. I wish his batarang was closer to how it originally was, faster and further. When you got characters like Gizmo with a cooldownless projectile and Bugs' safe and rocket, I don't think a better batarang (or more than 1) is too much to ask. I'm just a casual though so what do I know.
I have been playing Marvin a lot, and tbh I think the main thing he needs is a better way to confirm kills. The Rocket seems to be the only reliably thing that can confirm a kill, and I end up just stacking up damage, even getting a Bugs Bunny up to 180 damage and still no kill.
I love my Tom! Lots of my mains feels like they've been changed for the worse, but Tom just feels right. I love a character that is both fun to play and strong, and whose entire design just constantly makes me laugh at how silly he is. Fantastic design by the Multiverse devs.
I was looking forward to maining velma. I hope she gets better. shes very floaty and has confusing attacks as well as almost no kills aside the slow af down air and the up air which has decent coverage but very slow
I played tom and jerry casually, probably just me but I struggle with kill confirms. Their a menace at dealing damage, just find it hard to finish off other characters
His forward jab combos into his down normal, which makes for a pretty good kill confirm. You can also trying using the RC Jerry rocket or the fishing rod, but those are harder to land. But yea generally actually finishing people off is his weakness, which is why he's better in 2s.
I feel like that's a trait of mages. High damage output, difficulty confirming kills. They have a few moves. But I just aim to rack up higher damage numbers than I would with a heavier hitter.z They just have so many ranged options you can trap enemies into having no choice but to be hit.
i think players need to consider weakness stacking, batman has 3 moves and a projectile that stack weakness making some combos kill way better. and even without that if u hit 5 up attacks then an up special then you kill very early
I have not seen a single Black Adam, Steven, Garnet, Stripe, Gizmo, Wonder Woman, Rick, Reindog, Superman, Taz, T&J, Velma or Morty I rarely see Marvin, Arya, Batman, LeBron, Harley, Jake I usually see Banana, Bugs, Shaggy, Finn, Joker, Jason,
i was a wonder woman main in beta and she was a pretty alright character. I think she was fairly balanced and a super fun character to use especially with the whip tip perk. But now with no whip cooldown you can just cheese a ton of combos and that whip tip perk is really not good anymore especially since it doesn't have the reel in mechanic anymore. I still main her and had no idea how powerful she actually was to use until it was pointed out to me lmao. Her shield bash is so busted lol.
Just so everyone knows, well Joker players, especially flower aka neutral special in the air will one shot break bugs' safe and rockets as well as a bunch of other characters projectiles!!
I like playing black Adam but he just takes so much time to recover after a lot of his attacks. If you’re playing against someone who’s decent they can take advantage of the big punish windows
Banana was anoying to me for a while till i realize he only has like 4 main moves so I got used to it. My problem is with steven and WW. One basically feels like they have infinite armor and the other has trumps walls and a shield bubble that never seems to give out.
I think you have to keep in mind that 90 percent of the player base dont have most of the characters unlocked so thats why you dont see the casuals with characters like black Adam
Hey void i dont know if its just me i must suck but every game or so i go against a player who moves so quick to the point i cant hit them and they dodge almost everything please bring a guide because i feel like i am so bad i used to be relatively good in the beta now i get smashed
Stripe is wack because his kill game isn't consistent like most characters (His pistol doesn't go off every time after a combo to kill. That may be a bug. His neutral + ^ has 2 different properties so if you use it for a kill when you get the 2nd one, it won't connect. The bomb is SUPER tricky to get the full value from it since you have to predict where they'll recover while in the air.) His neutral special is a gimick you'll forget about since it feels like filler. You can't combo into EITHER of special + > moves. Those are literally his best specials too. He's just a lot of extra hard work to be real when (From what I see with the characters I've played and vs'd) NOBODY has to struggle because their kit is just there to look cool. IDK if this helps but here's my attempt to give some insight on what I've learned from Stripe (I got a habit of playing bad characters in fighting games 🤡. Velma is another story tho) Also probably shouldn't have tried to use my brain at 3 am to make logical sense 🤡
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I think the reason nobody uses Black Adam is less about how good he is and more about people not caring for Adam as a character.
i like him as a character but i've never been able to try his kit before so i probably wont grab him for a while
He is too hard to use for the average player
A lot of his kit is hard for beginners and he’s slower compared to most characters
@@Kareem-si7bg imo his kit is not that hard, specially since he got really easy to use strong attacks like nair, that said, some of his other moves are very situational
I love black Adam, he was my main in the beta but Jason has taken that spot
The problem with Morty is the fact that they removed almost all his passives. His old rewind used to heal him and save him from being killed and it doesn't anymore also his nades don't have the second bullet that comes out anymore and splitting grenades doesn't send them both ways anymore they just fly at you and completely miss the person they were meant to hit.
Yea i was a morty main and have like 300-400 wins on him and now i dont even want to play him until he gets buffed.😔
yea hes gutted basically but i still have good success with him. He definitely needs help tho hes super light and has trouble killing despite being a bruiser.
His rewind is near useless in 1v1, hopefully they give it back either the hitbox or healing. Not even getting started on the changes to his grenades
As a morty main I feel the pain. His tool kit got butchered pretty horribly, even his hammer swing doesn’t complete half the time against someone as massive as iron giant which is insane. The rewind nerf is pretty egregious, but the grenade nerf was definitely the worst
I decided to grind him out and I wish I hadn't. He's got some cool stuff but the weird float state off his forward air is one of my biggest gripes. That and rewind dropped grenades have the beta physics. Side attack sends them FLYING and normal grenades barely move on contact. That and if you have snake shot, then shoot a grenade (while airborne) it wastes snake shot even though you didnt fire it.
Marvin the Martian and Tom and Jerry as a duo is cracked
Just play Black Adam and Wonder Woman to counter them
Cheese
You think? I'm a Marvin main and my friend is a Tom main.. That's what we ran at the beginning but we quickly switched because his tennis balls would attach to the enemy, so he couldn't hit them like usual.. Marvin has that issue with some other characters too; even the projectiles that are not dealing damage/has any effect on the enemy homes in on the enemy. It's kinda lame.
marvin n lebron better
Have you seen Marvin and Bugs together!? Thats a serious duo
Gizmo is also annoying for the fact that he seems to counter projectile characters. His umbrella blocks, popcorn blocks his little box blocks and his notes block.
Well, the thing is that his grounded down special is useless, he's clunky to use right now (in the eyes of an open beta Gizmo main), and quite a few of the projectile heroes do have options for him. Morty can just spam his gun and it forces Gizmo out of his car, for example.
He is meter hungry, gets vulnerable real fast
I wonder which is better stripe or gizmo.
@@soIzeches not clunky hes really really good
ironically gizmo feels the least clunky after the speed nerfs since he's still a little annoying ah midget that can zoom around, he's just a character that you constantly get better with since his car and bow and arrow have a huge skill ceiling. difference between a mediocre and rlly good gizmo is insane just like Steven universe
In other words you play a projectile-zoner
WW did not need those buffs. I main her btw
No cd on the lasso is kind of crazy indeed
Shhhh
I’m a truly garbage platform player and not a Wonder main, so I’m honestly asking here, but like… is Banana a bad matchup for her?
Because she so obviously feels really strong otherwise, but I am currently _completely stumped_ on what she’s supposed to do against a gorilla Banana.
I feel like he outranges her so badly that it’s quite difficult to whiff punish him effectively, even when you’re successfully baiting out his attacks.
And maybe this is all just less of an issue when you’re good enough to parry more consistently, but also then, like… doesn’t that sound like pretty shaky grounds for (attempting to build up) an entire consistent matchup strategy??
I’m a longtime traditional fighting game player, so I’m wondering (no pun intended haha) if my old biases are totally blinding me from seeing an obvious answer here.
yeah buffing the character that won evo is insane
@@deadfr0gFrom my experience as both a wonder woman and bg player i think she is. Banana Guard's specials take more priority sometimes and overall can just truck through a lot of her attacks. I'm decent at the game but have no technical understanding of good/bad matchups, yet I do believe unless you're just really good at countering him Wonder Woman isn't the best pick
Jake lagging the game to the point of desyncing when he does the stretch makes him S tier when you're losing, apparently 😂
jake shouldnt be in the game
he was just as annoying as taz at release and he was t nerfed like him
Bats feels like a knowledge check character. You either know how to deal with his grapple and batarang or you just get uptilted to death.
His grapple is easy to parry, I just mess up when he grabs me around a corner and it delays the attack.
@@Wi3rdGuyunless they hit you with bomb then u get hit by 1 of 2 which ppl spam.
See this is what I'm talking about batman heavily overrated
Shaggy is so versatile and is a great combo of speed and power.
He's a beast.
Easy top tier with Banana
Agreed i main him
All the bums in these likes man 😂 Shaggy mains are trash
@@KJAYY99 no he is beutiful
He is literally based off of the shaggy vs Thanos meme back in 2019
As a tom n jerry beta main, I haven't been playing him because shooting jerry or shooting tennis balls currently results in a massive frame drop 90% of the time. I suspect this is why not many are playing him right now. I play on a console. Looking forward to some jerry sniping when they get the console issues sorted.
I think like you, but Tom and Jerry is so funny, I really like it, I don't recommend to use, but if yo use them correctly, you will destroy the game
Yeah playing this game even on current gen sucks sometimes. Input lag and frame drops are FREQUENT. Not just common, it happens FREQUENTLY. As a Bugs main (bite me) its absolutely abysmal
This happens whenever jake uses his up special for me
Weird I don't have this issue and I've been cruising as Tom & Jerry
There are some performance issues on Xbox that PFG need to fix. Playing T&J is fine for me on Playstation.
All jake needs is some small buffs to shine, i'm just glad he's playable now and at least okay
They need to stop counting his axe as an attackable part of his body.. they should treat it as a weapon
What do you mean he's playable "now"?
Yeah bro, you’re gonna get a huge wake up call when you see Jake get some huge buffs. He’s in DIRE need.
The only thing that I believe he should be removed for a couple of days to be worked on he's not good he's fuckin laggy to play against
@@TreyDoebut it's his body?
Very nice vid. Maybe you can make a video/tierlist about the best team comps
You know that's desync it's to do with the overall connection each player has in that game if the Jake is laggy then does we all experience that jank so it desyncs
As a steven main i can say that the removal of the support class made steven into a nasty combo character, if you get into the stevn vaccum with a wall above you its over
He always had combos
Idk what removing the class did for his combos?
Is the support class completely gone from the game?
@@xanander4693 they're accomodating for the fact that more people will be playing 1v1 than 2v2, so they made all the characters viable for 1v1. Support classes were made for 2v2.
@@gogetathegreatestfusion801 I see. Glad they made that change so now everyone is viable! (Except poor Velma)
I'm not surprised to see Jason fall quite a bit on your list since last week, haha. TBH, I think you might still be overestimating him a little because you've seen so much of Nakat's Jason, and he's got one of the best around. In general, I think he could use a little tweaking to reach a point that feels good to play.
I agree he could use a little bit of a speed buff and at least one to two armor moves
Harley Quinn can just make Jason explode, he has nearly no answers to her approaches, the only times I've lost to Jason after the first couple of days is when I'm throwing because I want to finish dailys.
Jason's cracked ngl
Yeah I get chased alot a horror villain that's supposed to chase. But his attacks are actually so broken rn his neutral air grab have ring out if they have 90%
@@imprudentdev1503you ever thought that the players maybe mediocre and the character used wrong?
Would love to see like a best teams list or maybe what goes into finding a good team from these strong characters
Glad I'm not delusional about Stripe. His combos are crazy but he just feels lacking in neutral vs. a lot of the cast. Probably still use him and try to figure out better setups until a someone comes out with a guide.
Stripe feels so bad man. Like his strings with up special into his air normals can go wild, but yeah you’re right. His neutral game is HORRENDOUS. And thus he struggles to kill outside of specific percent ranges or setups
@@naw613he kills really easy for me? Down special into neutral special usually kills.
@@thatcheesy8613 when you face good opponents, they will punish you for trying to throw out a raw down special.
He used to be one of if not the best character until they nerfed his gun. His gun could eventually easily kill after 50 percent if someone was off stage he was one of the most annoying and broken characters in the Beta.
Nah both you and void are delusional stripe is FIRE
Stripe is one of my favorite characters. His combos do a lot of damage and he can surprise kill you with his gun but once you know the shot is coming it's easy to predict and dodge. In doubles though if he tags you so you have his mark and the other guy juggles you up to the top, it's just a kill you can't avoid so he's super funny in that respect. Also he's really safe because you can threaten with Dynamite in your hand and hold it as long as you want, if you take his Perk where after biting the dynamite, the next structure he hits also explodes, he's actually got amazing utility to get back on the ledge. Combined with the saw blade on some maps where you can make it spin on the platform for a while and he's actually really decent. I played him a shit load before moving to gizmo and i'd personally rank him middle B or on this graph top of strong. There was never a character i felt like i couldn't beat but also felt like i was nobody's counter at the same time.
To put into context how it really feels, I almost beat Bleezy (top 8 evo player) on it. I rack up way more wins with Stripe and than taz and i mained Taz. Taz is bad right now. Lower end of good if you will. Stripe is better because he's more consistent in my opinion. The only match up i want Taz over Stripe is vs shaggy because being able to shoe his side special kick but that's it.
Love the ending xD Great video Void. Keep it up!
Stripe in underrated af. Was my main in beta (same moveset, but of course the game is different now). His combo game is actually nice as hell. Weaving a gunshot and managing his saw blade can be very abusive. Saw on platforms is kinda nuts. His sair special is strong and his upair normal is gnarly. A lot feeds into his air game which is nice. Landing grounded up attack or grounded side special into his air game while filling with his gun can be insane with the right timing. The gun really enables him to follow up much easier especially when people are trying to evade. As long as you can touch someone you can followup and gap close with the gun as filler. Also, the weird timing on a few of his moves are nice for baiting if you need a lil help on the way back to stage. Adds a nice element of mind-games when youre out in the middle of fucking nowhere. I'm taking a 1v1 take on this one. Teams is a totally different beast for stripe. I feel like there are more characters that fair better in 1v1 than they do in 2v2.
I also think Taz is worse than Stripe mostly because of his kit. I feel like he has less options overall.
Been enjoying your MVS content, good shit dude.
I main black adam and i agree with all of the things you pointed out about his kit. He is also really good against blocking projectiles too.
Giant went from "needs help" to breaking the game. Shows how accurate initial tier lists are
Doesn't stop me from dragging him off to the top blastzone at 0
Joker feels like playing beta just so much speed
Fr my favourite character rn
Joker’s air up attacks are so annoying
@@JasonPeters-s9zwomp womp
Haven’t seen one Finn player use their upgrades yet, one of the best things in his kit.
It’s a lot to keep track of during a match especially in 2v2. And it leaves you wide open.
@@JasonPeters-s9z it’s even better in 2v2, your teammate also gets the buffs too if I’m not mistaken
I think the reason nobody uses Black Adam is less about how good he is and more about how nobody has any money.
This.
Do some rifts and you'll get the currency to unlock a character. I do a couple each day and i unlock a character each day
@@LatdraggerAbsolutely cap, no way you buy character a day
@@saadeddineabarra122 try it
Really?
I see him all the time.
I feel like garnet just needs less frames on a few moves.
I put in a lot of work with her way back so I make her work well but it's so much easier on other characters especially when she's in disadvantage. Her animations are super slow, but at the same time she rewards timing with some CRAZY conversions so she can potentially become touch of death
With her strings tho they're also situational so you have to have the exact cooldown you need to do certain combos. But that's what makes her so satisfying for me. Learning new matchups has been great and I learned some really wild stuff with her. She's tough to play for a "just punch them" character, but satisfying
Also garnet can make use of airwalkker really well too ots so fun
I think banana guard should be balanced by the devs to sit in B tier. playing against a character that’s insanely strong and simple at the same time isn’t very fun
If that’s the case then they need to nerf shaggy too.
I feel like none of his frames should be touched but his knockback, damage and a bit of his hitboxes should be touched. I like the idea of having banana guard as a combo monster that has to work for kills rather than having all of his moves kill
@@PitbullFromSuburbs well shaggy has at least a bit of nuance. Banana guard atm just feels like you’re throwing out kill moves with huge hitboxes no matter what button you press. I think they should tweak his design a bit
Every character should ideally be balanced to be as close to the rest of the roster as possible. Making balancing decisions to place certain characters in certain tiers is a bad idea.
@@eskimobob117It isn't, all fighting games know that
If y’all want to see garnet’s potential just do this-multi punch,side b(rocket punch),forward dodge,multi punch,side b(elbow dash) but angle it up,depending on the enemy’s percent and position you can do side air 1 into side b again or sair 1 into up b or up air strings or sair 1 super close to the ground to go back into multi punch into another side b elbow(basically if you hit sair 1 then you can practically go into everything else really good combo extender and kill confirm from the side and upwards just use side b or up airs or up b )
As a stripe main I find most kills are either from bullet shots near the blast zone or his aerials and even then the aerials need more knockback since I've hit people with full charge up air and it still hasn't killed at over 120
I just started playing Shaggy for the first time and wow he’s amazing. Great combos, charges are really easy to pull off especially with that perk, can ko in any direction. Was he this good in the beta? It feels like discovering WW in the beta. Total natural fit for my play style
he was way better in the beta so much it was kinda insane just watch a combo video
You have the best tier list yet... BECAUSE YOU TOLD THE TRUTH!! Any pro player trying to say bugs banana harley not S is flatout LYING
Why?
Digging this tier list. Esp Gizmo, he has options for everything but dies at like 60 esp to other top tiers. Esp in 2's get caught once and youre almost dead. People just seem not to respect the gizmo play, but that will change over time I feel. Hopefully the clean up gizmo bugs too, the nasty one is not being able to jump after weird car interactions or up special post backpack bugs.
As a Harley main I see this as an absolute win
So happy I never stopped main-ing WW
“I don’t see much of ….” I see alllll these characters. What game are you playing.
I think he’s playing the lego barmat video geam
Decided to give Garnet a try, and holy cow she's actually really good.
Just so many options.
Which is exactly what Banana Guard lacks.
Don't get me wrong, Banana Guard has great reach and power, a very deadly combo.
But Garnet has more range, and tools in general, than most of the other Bruisers except Morty and Black Adam.
A projectile stopper, speed booster, and anti-armor in her dance move.
Super armor in her ground neutral that sits right there with Superman's charge attacks.
I find her down special to be a little lacking, more situational than you'd think because how easy it is to interrupt, but for the case of mobility it's nice.
Up special in the air is kind of weak, but on the ground it's a nice interrupt and the shock damage is pretty nice.
Side special has good knockback and range, and being able to control the angle mid flight is useful.
Neutral is situational, wouldn't mind if it lasted a little longer, but I find you don't need more than 1 stack most of the time, and for projectile reflecting you don't even need that. 2 stacks would be great against WW if it lasted longer, or came out quicker, but it's kind of win-more at the moment.
Does she feel as good to me as T&J, Steven, or Reindog?
Maybe on the level of Reindog honestly, definitely on the level of Superman.
Her specials are more viable than Superman's laser eyes on drop platform stages (fricken mansion) or his ice breath, in my opinion (though I forget you can freeze your ally's hands to give them damage boost)
I wish Jake didn't have hurt boxes in his hands... That's all I really want.
I've been trying Stripe and I think his dash attack is pretty good at killing people. But his role seems to be to do quite a lot of damage so that your partner with better finishing moves go and do their jobs.
Could we get a going into season 2 tier list ?
I’m lovin black Adam fr. So fun and crazy combo potential
He’s high committal but when you get in, you’re IN.
@@lightspaceman5064 you not lyin, gotta commit hard to whatever you do unless you flyin in neutral. The fly plus air down special is the bread and butter lol
I haven't played stripe myself but I've seen a video that showcases him having a kill comfirm combo that works when his opponent is at 70
I was waiting on this bro
Honestly I feel the game is pretty balanced. The majority of the cast feel strong in their own way and if played right can win games. A couple definitely outshine the rest but I don’t feel like you have to play one of the absolute best characters to keep up. As people continue to get better will be interesting to see how this shakes out but so far I think it’s pretty good.
I like Iron Giant and i main him besides Marvin the Martian but i dont use him because im bad i use him because i think the movie was one of my favorite animated movies ever and its cool seeing him in a game so i like playing as him 🫡
Stripe is so slept on his up tilt kills at like 100 and side special does too if you use his gun at peak height and on top of that he can rack up damage
I be sending Dudes to the Shadow Realm with the Billy Western. FYM Stripe Sucks?
Hot take: Marvin is the best 1v1 character. can box any character out. If you’re patient. Endless they only patch iron giants infinite. Because he’s the best in 1’s. I think most people are sleeping on the fire projectile perc. Makes Morty top tier I think
Reindog been my main since the beta, and while he’s worse in this version of the game imo, he’s still viable!!! Just need to grind him out more
It's the movement u got from the dodges as well as the perks available which really changes how characters play
im so glad steven is good, ive always loved playing him and he is one of my favorite characters in fiction so its not frustrating playing him lol
We all know iron Giant was supposed to be here but wasn't bc he's in the shop "Press F to Pay Respect"
Crazy its only been a week felt like a month
you need to check out some finn airwalker stuff. makes him so much more insane lol
Ricks neutral projectile doesn’t hit like half the cast because he’s too tall, which makes some match ups significantly harder. But he’s still fun and has some strong moves.
You are now my favourite content creator after your reindog comments
As a Batman main I agree, he feels lackluster. I wish his batarang was closer to how it originally was, faster and further. When you got characters like Gizmo with a cooldownless projectile and Bugs' safe and rocket, I don't think a better batarang (or more than 1) is too much to ask. I'm just a casual though so what do I know.
Batarang is the best projectile in the game dude
@@venusian9695 how? I used to think so but now not so much. Its speed and your control over it is worse than in the beta. What am I missing?
Can u do a dash attack tier list?
Taz is fucking cracked when you learn him in and out. Hate his down special though.
Still a T&J main after the beta.
T&J is love T&J is life
Tas is better
WW my goat, been using her since everyone called her D tier in the beta
This legit the same tier list I have. I have no disagreements
I have been playing Marvin a lot, and tbh I think the main thing he needs is a better way to confirm kills. The Rocket seems to be the only reliably thing that can confirm a kill, and I end up just stacking up damage, even getting a Bugs Bunny up to 180 damage and still no kill.
Agree completely
Jake was my main in the beta, don't know what they did to him but rip Jake
my exact thoughts
Shaggy has sooooo much priority he is a threat whenever I fight him
I love my Tom! Lots of my mains feels like they've been changed for the worse, but Tom just feels right. I love a character that is both fun to play and strong, and whose entire design just constantly makes me laugh at how silly he is. Fantastic design by the Multiverse devs.
Damn I only got to do the iron giant grab cheese only like a few times should have went and done it more🤣🤣
I was looking forward to maining velma. I hope she gets better. shes very floaty and has confusing attacks as well as almost no kills aside the slow af down air and the up air which has decent coverage but very slow
LOL as soon as I saw Harley’s placement I knew you were joking. Based list
Harley is good tf you talking about 💀
@@DemonKingDeon someone didn’t understand my comment!
@@reigner-brown why would he be joking 💀
@@DemonKingDeon He literally make a joke in the video that she's trash and then puts her in S... did you watch the vid?
y'all are sleeping on garnets CHARGABLE air spike
fr fr
She's got more versatility than a great deal of characters.
It's just not all obvious and easy to use.
I played tom and jerry casually, probably just me but I struggle with kill confirms. Their a menace at dealing damage, just find it hard to finish off other characters
I was like this bro😂 I had to switch to gizmo
His forward jab combos into his down normal, which makes for a pretty good kill confirm. You can also trying using the RC Jerry rocket or the fishing rod, but those are harder to land. But yea generally actually finishing people off is his weakness, which is why he's better in 2s.
Use jerry rocket
I feel like that's a trait of mages.
High damage output, difficulty confirming kills.
They have a few moves.
But I just aim to rack up higher damage numbers than I would with a heavier hitter.z
They just have so many ranged options you can trap enemies into having no choice but to be hit.
Tom and Jerry is mad underrated. I hit 3 different people with 0 to deaths last night that were inescapable.
Lol you keeping us on our toes with every placement
I love Tom and Jerry but Jason has been so fun for me. jason gonna be a secondary or a third for me because Bugs is my secondary
Thank you for validating my experience vs finn. You evwn showed video vs my main LeBron, i can absolutely agree the matchup is cancer
I HONESTLY think Marvin could be A borderline S tier in 2's if he has a competent partner that can secure kills.
Shaggy will always be my main and I love him being in 2nd top tier cause then everyone else will move around him but he’ll stay strong
i think players need to consider weakness stacking, batman has 3 moves and a projectile that stack weakness making some combos kill way better. and even without that if u hit 5 up attacks then an up special then you kill very early
as a steven main, hes so underratedly great
I have not seen a single Black Adam, Steven, Garnet, Stripe, Gizmo, Wonder Woman, Rick, Reindog, Superman, Taz, T&J, Velma or Morty
I rarely see Marvin, Arya, Batman, LeBron, Harley, Jake
I usually see Banana, Bugs, Shaggy, Finn, Joker, Jason,
😭So u see no one apparently
@@cococj80 Banana, Shaggy, Joker, Jason, Finn and Bugs
@@kylespevak6781 I have seen every character but Morty
A lot of people got Banana and Jason for free though.
Bet that contributes.
Do you have some general tips for getting better at this game ? I'm not that good at platform fighters and just a few tips could help me out alot
Hey Void. Would love to see a difficulty tier list for mvs
i was a wonder woman main in beta and she was a pretty alright character. I think she was fairly balanced and a super fun character to use especially with the whip tip perk. But now with no whip cooldown you can just cheese a ton of combos and that whip tip perk is really not good anymore especially since it doesn't have the reel in mechanic anymore. I still main her and had no idea how powerful she actually was to use until it was pointed out to me lmao. Her shield bash is so busted lol.
As a Tom and Jerry main, fighting Gizmo is painful
I was top 20 ranked tom and jerry before beta ended. They’re still my main🔥
I think arya has some cool airwalker stuff, but with d tilt taking her meter it's hard to use half her meter for airwalk.
Just so everyone knows, well Joker players, especially flower aka neutral special in the air will one shot break bugs' safe and rockets as well as a bunch of other characters projectiles!!
I like playing black Adam but he just takes so much time to recover after a lot of his attacks. If you’re playing against someone who’s decent they can take advantage of the big punish windows
Yeah I've been punishing the ones who keep spamming the ground electricity attack because they take all day to get up from it.
Ill stand by marvin even though he struggles with absolutely no kill threat if youre inconsistent with your rocket hits
Banana was anoying to me for a while till i realize he only has like 4 main moves so I got used to it. My problem is with steven and WW. One basically feels like they have infinite armor and the other has trumps walls and a shield bubble that never seems to give out.
Anti-armor perks all the way.
Garnet gives anti-armor in her dance, but it takes a bit too long and doesn't last quite long enough.
Something i think about ww... i think in most fighting games the mirror match sucks but the ww mirror match is always fun and exciting imo
i think you are right about black adam, i dont think people like his slow attacks
I waited the vid just for him to put my main stripe in bottom😂
I think you have to keep in mind that 90 percent of the player base dont have most of the characters unlocked so thats why you dont see the casuals with characters like black Adam
Stripe is the greatest character of all time.
superman I feel like belong in very strong and iron giant definitely belongs in week two threat for sure ngl to bad he’s gone though for now😭
Stripe has a combo of 57 damage 18 hits in about 3 SECONDS
As a tom and jerry main myself…we still here just scattered about
I’m goated with Superman
Hey void i dont know if its just me i must suck but every game or so i go against a player who moves so quick to the point i cant hit them and they dodge almost everything please bring a guide because i feel like i am so bad i used to be relatively good in the beta now i get smashed
Stripe is wack because his kill game isn't consistent like most characters (His pistol doesn't go off every time after a combo to kill. That may be a bug. His neutral + ^ has 2 different properties so if you use it for a kill when you get the 2nd one, it won't connect. The bomb is SUPER tricky to get the full value from it since you have to predict where they'll recover while in the air.)
His neutral special is a gimick you'll forget about since it feels like filler.
You can't combo into EITHER of special + > moves. Those are literally his best specials too.
He's just a lot of extra hard work to be real when (From what I see with the characters I've played and vs'd) NOBODY has to struggle because their kit is just there to look cool.
IDK if this helps but here's my attempt to give some insight on what I've learned from Stripe (I got a habit of playing bad characters in fighting games 🤡. Velma is another story tho) Also probably shouldn't have tried to use my brain at 3 am to make logical sense 🤡
Finn is so good for combos
The double safe glitch with Bugs is hilarious to watch lol, but really stupid.