"Ah yes, my _______. I haven't used this since the heian era" is literally the new age version of "So it's the same type of stand as Star Platinum" at this point.
Something I love about the anime adaptation of part 3 is the added scene of Joseph shouting "I will take that body back in the name of Grandma Erina!!!". A great reference to the fact that Jonathan's body and heart belongs to her and not DIO
I think pt.3 Dio would not actually let the fight carry on to long. Before drinking Joseph’s blood, Dio was extremely careful not to lose to his own arrogance a second time. That’s why he spent so long making sure Jotoro was dead. Dio would probably fight Sukuna to the point where a hole is blown through his chest. When Sukuna doesn’t die, he would probably act impressed, talk a whole bunch of shit about “I went easy on you, but just wait till next time.” And then nope out because he wouldn’t want to take the chance.
Speaking of Tarkus and Bruford, I think their fight against Jonathan was one of the most underrated in the entire franchise. Not only Tarkus is a formidable villain, but also Bruford gave us one of the most emotional deaths in JoJos. "If I can feel pain...I can feel joy as well..." 😢
If that's the case Dio has to Stop time and speed blitz (I have never seen Dio Speedblitz anyone, he advances very slowly and monologues thought XD, can he really find him in a 200-meter radius and kill him in 5 sec?)
I feel like DIO's battle IQ gets a little downplayed sometimes when people bring up his ego; but when you actually watch how he thinks over the course of a battle, as soon as something proves to be dangerous to him, he takes zero chances and focuses on neutralizing his opponent asap. This on top of his ability to use pseudo teleportation and near-instant almost omni-directional projectiles with the precision of The World via timestop, means as soon as Sukuna gets taken seriously it's just a countdown until DIO goes for the head imo.
@@pfuze_5775 I feel like you would’ve had a point if the only time DIO was ever in the story was strictly the road roller scene. I highly recommend at least reading pt 3, but all of Jojo’s is a good read
@@pfuze_5775He was literally using the road roller to kill jotaro to avoid getting close to him and to crush him to death. He was taking him seriously because that was the most overkill thing he could have done. He wanted Jotaro fucking dead at that point after the blow he took to the head.
They're both intelligent fighters. But I think it's important to keep in mind that Sukuna is a far older being with lifetimes of fighting experience compared to Dio who spent a large portion of his undead life in a coffin on the bottom of the sea.
@@the_markoman I think to that point, it doesn’t seem to matter outside of power system mastery and martial arts. In terms of battle IQ and tactical feats, DIO and the Jojo’s universe as a whole just has the better and more consistent showings with no need for assumption and conjecture
I say it depends how DIO fights. If he decides to treat Sukuna more like Kakyoin then it’s over for Sukuna. If DIO plays with Sukuna like he did with Jotaro then it’s over for DIO. Pretty interesting fight though, I could see it going either way
Dio having stop time is just too powerful. Sukuna can regenerate but Dio essentially can press the pause button on it. Only way Sukuna stands a chance is by catching Dio off guard with a domain expansion. It has to work that way, otherwise you're nerfing Dio by having him act out of character. A time stop means death, and if Sukuna's head gets removed and starts regenerating I don't feel like Dio's gonna hold off to talk to Sukuna while it happens.
@@RealGalxythey're just mad that gojos dead due to being sliced in half and unable to regenerate. Dw Sukuna can regenerate so long as his brain is fine
Dio drains Sukuna, accidentally makes Jonathan a vessel for Sukuna. Sukuna then interacts with Jonathan's soul, makes a binding vow to return the body to Jonathan and defeat Dio, Jonathan refuses to accept as he doesn't need to live, his body can be destroyed, but he won't risk Sukuna simply being a new Dio and using his body for evil. Sukuna's counter offer is the same he offered Yuji, he can switch at any time he chants and can't kill anyone during that time. Jonathan, being more naieve and less jaded than Yuji, takes the deal. Dio loses. Jonathan lives again with cursed energy, hamon and a stand, and becomes the strongest protag of JJBA and JJK.
Kakyoin: "NOTHING CAN DEFLECT THE EMERALD SPLASH!!!" DIO: "Ah, that brings back beautiful memories of my encounter with a guy named Dire. His "unstoppable" technique didn't work, but it was still a pain" *Rubs eye*
That is an incongruity, first, it was intended to imply that he was still "weak" because of the hamon that Jonathan's body still had and that the body was trying to repel Dio, also the glass cuts his leg But then he survives a full SP punch straight to his brain, when his head should have exploded like a watermelon.
@@mabFullMoonits not an inconsidtency or anything. Dio "survives" jotaros punch because it doesnt completely destroy his brsin and his vsmpite healing kicks in. Its not a dursbility feat considering jotaro literally destroyed dios skull. Dio getting an entire leg cut off by a regulsr piece of glass means that dismantle is EASILY cutting through him
@@mabFullMoonyour stupid, first of all no, dio litterally got his skull caved in, johnathans body resisted him but it was maybe like a 5% decrease in stats at most
@@GeoX242Dio does not heal from getting punched in the head until he drinks blood from Joseph. You're literally cherrypicking feats and making up reasons for why one is valid and the other is not. Dio straight up tanked a shot to the head from Star Platinum, and then took another barrage. If Dio was actually that weak, he absolutely would have been dead from that. Those punches would have atomized him given how he was incapable of healing before drinking Joseph's blood.
Honestly, I think Dio has all the tools he needs to win. The problem is...well, he is Dio, and while Sukuna is also likes to kinda play with his food, he is nowhere near as much of a poser and a petty twat (remember the Polnareff ladder scene?). So unless he goes serious relativly fast - he's gonna get cooked.
Long time fan of the channel. I would like to point out two things. 1. Dio, without a domain, would be subject to the sure hit factor of Sakunas domain, they cleaves would hit him. 2. The reason Sakunas cleaves haven't hurt people in the past we're either because his output was extremely low(I believe 10%) or the recipient was using rct. I think if Sukuna used his domain expansion, it would be Game over for Dio. On the flip side, if Dio isn't playing games he could kill him easily with The World, but it seems unlikely due to his proclivity to knives
Great video but a little bit of a misunderstanding of domain expansion. It’s not just that the attacks are extremely hard to dodge, they are literally guaranteed to hit their intended target. Though I have only watched the anime on dub so I might be misunderstanding it.
You're right, the attacks pretty much don't exist before they hit the target. Think of domains as a bowl of water and the attack is the user's cursed energy. You're litterally drowning in the source of the attacks just waiting for the user to manifest them right on top of you.
You've got that 100% right. And then there's the fact that Sukuna has dismantle target inanimate objects too which means DIO literally has no way to not get hit via endless slashes
@@Emporio_of_Lighthe won't even have time to even make a domain expansion, Jojo Stan above silver chariot have lightspeed attack speeds and reaction time .Dio is equivalent to jotaro Stan that's faster than sliver chariot.
I think sukunas ability to see and attack the soul would allow him to see the world, and if we take personality into account, the moment sukunas feels disrespected he's just Gunna fuck dio up
Dios just way too fast, he could just stop time before sukuna could do anything and cut off his head. Though if sukuna immediately attacked using slashes he could probably kill dio first. So its more like a quickdraw
i believe sukuna would win because even when dio lost a leg he still kept playing and testing jotaro instead of killing him which i believe he'd keep being cocky towards sukuna which will cause dio to lose
Damn this is gonna be interesting- I could see it go either way but I’m leaning towards DIO But if you wanna say the soul damage thing applies it might give Sukuna the edge
what if (theory):stands are your fighting spirit,right?So thats basically a soul.So i dont think it would give sukuna the edge,it would mean that the stand could directl attack the curse
I feel like Sukuna would win most times if Dio doesn’t gauge his strength properly or underestimates his durability. Dio and Sukuna both are prone to toying with their opponent but Sukuna tends to get things over with quicker than Dio, who tends to talk more. If Dio was being serious, he could just stop time immediately and cut off/ destroy Sukuna’s head. Sukuna could probably tank a few punches from the World due to cursed energy reinforcement, but The World at full strength could punch a hole or pulverize a part of Sukuna’s body. Dio can stop time to get out of Malevolent Shrine, but he does have to activate The World before MS takes effect or he’s done. The World also could react fast enough to parry Dismantle, but Cleave might be something The World nor Dio could handle. Sukuna also has a larger effective range of attack even without Domain Expansion. Dio’s regeneration is a non factor here unless Sukuna sends him flying and happens to still be feeling him out/ doesn’t activate Domain Expansion, because Sukuna is used to opponents regenerating. So in summary it’s a high diff, quick draw fight if Dio wants to win.
Also when I mean Dio can get out of Malevolent Shrine, I mean he has to stop time and kill Sukuna immediately. If Sukuna already has a few slashes out before Dio kills him and resumes time, he’s probably getting maimed at the least. A fast Dio stopping time right before MS takes effect could result in a draw or a barely surviving win for Dio.
the thing is even if dio stop time to escape sukuna's domain expansion, i highly doubt dio can out run sukuna's 200meter attack but the rest i agree with u
5:42 Ngl, I was genuinely disappointed when tge anime didn't adapt the iconic "Jotaro and DIO getting closer" panel. It would have been simply EPIC to see that sh*t animated, with Roundabout playing again as the episode ends
Dio doesn’t have insane durability, he has regeneration thanks to being a vampire. Just remember that he got his leg chopped off by some large glass shards in the Jotaro fight. You also have to remember that his regeneration was slower before drinking Joseph’s blood, where a single blow to the head from Star Platinum (ik that it’s incredibly powerful) was enough to stop him from healing and almost crippled him (made him unable to use his legs).
lmao bro but sorry to bust your bubble - sukuna cant even land 1 hit on Dio , dio too fast and smarter than sukuna , b4 sukuna can make out about his stands abilities -he's dead meat
@@Sohansen-vr8ph I never said he would win, let alone land a hit on Dio. I was just saying that Dio isn't THAT durable, he can and will get injured when he is hit (ignoring the regeneration aspect of his overall stats).
Let's not forget that Sukuna blocked Mahoraga's blade with his arm. Now. That attack left a crater in the ground which is a feat Jojo characters struggle to do (I personally only remember Act 4 Johnny to be capable of this). A blunt force attack is different from the swing of a blade in terms of delivering kinetic energy. Sukuna being durable enough to withstand THE CONCENTRATED FORCE of that attack (that as an aftereffect left a crater in the ground) on his skin without needing major recovery gives me the feeling that it's not sure The World/Dio would even have the destructive prowess enough to even harm Sukuna's body. This is a major factor considering their power levels. If Dio is not strong enough to generate enough BLUNT FORCE (his knives are far less durable than Mahoraga's blade so they're out of the equasion) than there is no possibility that he has a chance against Shibuya Arc Sukuna. His eye laser is the closest thing I can imagine capable of harming Sukuna, which is still problematic for him, since healing from a clean cut is close to nothing for curses. Also Dio's prime vampire body was already susceptible to cuts (not to mention his nerfed part3 body), so Sukuna would have an easy time chopping him up.
To be fair, stands like the World and Star Platnium can easily make craters, but Araki probably doesn't like to make them or something like that. If Star Platnium can easily break buildings and more, but can't make a crater.......
@@Iaitreadinallat I mean... the OVA is a questionable source to begin with. Yet, even there he chipped that tower away piece by piece though, so it's more of a feat of speed you ask me. Rather than power. Even then, that's still something 15 finger sukuna can just shrug off easily. But okay. Let's say Dio had a means to damage Sukuna. Then it would be close to draw, depending on who makes the deadly move first. Either Sukuna chops Dio to small pieces or Dio stops time and destroys Sukuna's brain. Highly debatable, but an interesting topic nevertheless
It feels like a fight of who attacks first and if Dio gets eggotistical cause if Dio attacks first and figures out sukuna heals he's gonna cave his skull in but is Sukuna attacks first either that kills dio or he realises it can't and uses domain expansion (if Dio gives him the chance) which will kill him
1 thing we have to consider here is that this sukuna in this fight is not full power it's only 15 fingers meaning him dying in this fight would not be completely killing him due to the fact there is 5 more of his fingers still out there meaning he just can come back at a later date. Also in the manga it's stated that when in sukuna's domain attacks start going immediately so dio would need to completely avoid domain expansion completely
I feel like dio may try to donut sukuna. But as we’ve seen sukuna can survive without a heart so his main method wouldnt work. Unless sukunas host is able to take over and kill themself so sukuna cant continue. Dio would be surprised that sukuna survived the donut. Panic internally for a few hours then sukuna would probably be like “aight this dude somehow donuted me instantly without me seeing him hes dangerous so. D o m a i n e x p a n s i o n
If Dio was in the JJK universe, his "The World" would be like a borderless domain expansion that affects everything around him. Just like Sukuna's Malevolent Shrine.
I feel people forget that dio only toyed with jotaro due to him being curious about star platinum similar power. Sukuna wont be toyed with like that...
@@Wezlii530He very much knew about Polnareff's abilities and had nothing to fear from a meathead. Dio definitively play at first, but he doesn't play alot around with actually dangerous opponents.
@@V1_Ultrakiller dio was way too cocky it didn’t matter he played with basically everyone at first and only started to take jotaro seriously after their first clash that’s the whole reason he clashed with jotaro in the first place, to just prove he’s stronger outright
A fight between them will round up to who decides to stop playing around faster. Taking character into consideration, Sukuna is shown to play around more often than Dio (with strangers, Dio wastes much more time with the main cast than he does with side characters because of personal reasons), and that leads me to think that Dio wouldn't waste time on someone that he has nothing to do with and will just kill him with time stop. From there, I guess that Sukuna would either realize the danger and kill Dio on the spot or waste a few more seconds on flexing / playing around and die from the second time stop.
well sukuna would be impressed by DIO's "shikigami" that managed to donut him, but with that he eithers test how strong is DIO's body or uses domain expansion after regenerating the damage because of "how fast is that shikigami"
@@anonymanonymus4706 still havent elaborated on how dio’s supposed to output damage higher then a mf that can tank attacks that scale higher then literal nukes
@@theyfwsam2046 Kinetic energy is calculated by speed (remember school?). In stopped time, speed is infinite, and that's why he is able to throw a roadrunner, as well as damage Sukuna in stopped time.
Kaleb, I have some intriguing video ideas for you! How about exploring a scenario where the entire Joestar family, including the Steel Ball Run universe, comes together to prevent the Shibuya incident? Alternatively, you could discuss which Jojo, along with their crew, might have the best chance of stopping this incident among the 9 Jojos. Another interesting concept is exploring whether Gojo could successfully clear the villains from each Jojo part. Lastly, pondering how Gappy with Go Beyond would fare in the JJK universe could be a unique exploration. Would love to hear your thoughts on these ideas!
@@Nitrogenic Dc is destructive capabilities, meaning how much can you destroy we scale this by using things such as building, block,multi block,town, city,island,country, etc. Ap is attack potentcy meaning how potent or output of your attack, if you can output enough to destroy a whole city its both ap and dc and you can destroy a city (your dc) and your attack is potent enough to be able to have enough output to also destroy something like a city (ap) , both ap and dc can be used to show how MUCH you can destroy and what CAN you destroy, its like how powerful your attack is can show your durability as in order for you to use excert that much energy you must also be durable enough to take it (its a law of physics).
@@Nitrogenic What ap has dio shown? Or his durability compared to sukuna? Sukuna has been shown to survive attacks which destroyed a city, has dio shown this?
@@Daniel_figs you're missing the point entirely. Most fictional characters have much higher AP than their shown dc, you're trying to explain to me something I already know. Usong physics itself, the Silver Chariot deflecting sun beams is in the city to mountain range. There's also scaling above stone free who deflected meteors, SP sucking a city, arguably Heavy Weather destroying the ozone layer potentially with statements or C-Moon inverting 3 KM worth of AoE, stuff like that
If DIO dosen't mess around, Sukuna gets blitzed without the need of timestop MFTL+ vs Hypersonic is horrible. If DIO does get hit by a DE its pretty much over. All Sukuna needs to do is entirely obliterate the brain of a vampire.
Dio himself cant love at mftl speeds though. Sukuna can just stand a good 30m away from him and use malevolent shrine. Dio only wins if he can get close enough to be within punching range in his 5-10 second time stop.
I think it's a no brainer, DIO is cocky, yes, but it only over comes him when a Joestar is involved. In his fights and dealing with everyone he was being cautious to not let his arrogance over come him, but with the Joestar's he was more arrogant, and couldn't keep control. DIO is going to kill Sukana the moment he realizes that Sukana is strong and perhaps equal to him (but not the world. DIO was VERY admament about The World being his most powerful weapon and that it wasn't part of himself, but more like a tool.) And Domain Expansion, while powerful, won't really be able to deal with DIO. DIO is very paranoid, the moment Sukana brings it out, he's going to seek to destroy Sukana as fast as possible and use back to back time stops. Also, something I don't really see people bring up. After The World was destroyed DIO was STILL ALIVE, which is something I think should be taken into account as surviving having your soul obliterated isn't something most mfs live from.
@flappyflap2693 Technically, the other stand was Jonathan's, but since he controlled his body he controlled his stand. That one isn't hus own soul, like The World is, that's part of the reason why stands woke up in the Joestar bloodline all at once, was essentially the kidnapping, controlling, and usage of the stand not necessarily of the body.
Just a note, domains have sure hit effects, and Sukuna's sure hit effect is the entire 200 meters, but people with no cursed energy aren't affected by sure hit effects like Maki and Toji, while idk if Sukuna is an exception, there isn't anything saying he is, so the entirr fit is if DIO decides to just end it witgout fucking around
I think that if Sukuna’s slashes are still active during stopped time (they still “exist” and cut DIO) it may be a good defense and will force DIO to maneuver around them to heal from Sukuna. But still, DIO’s time stop hard counter’s Malevolent Shrine if it isn’t on cooldown and he can destroy it in time. It just boils down to whoever can figure out the others’ abilities faster. Though, I’d have to give it to Sukuna for his sheer destructive capability and probably baiting DIO out of time stop to open his domain.
I honestly question if Dio’s attacks could harm Sukuna, I'm not calling Jojo's characters weak, they have some of the best hax, but their durability is that of a normal human (unless your Kars, than its of the perfect life form on earth) with their strength being questionable since strategy is the most important thing in battle in that verse.
Jojo characters fight along side aspect of there souls. The greatest source of damage in Jjk is soul damage so at some those two Schools of thought will converge in we'd get an answer. Also Sukuna isn't like Mahito he can be killed by beating him to death you just have to be strong enough to do it
Dio's durability is way higher than a normal human😂. Dark Blue Moon could create a whirlpool just with it's physical strength and Jotaro dog walked the guy. Dio is capable of taking multiple punches from Star Platinum and getting up, so calling him "on the level of a normal human" is stupid
@regorthejoe7953 A bullet is approximately 3000 km/h Sound is approximately 1000-1300 km/h. Dio stopped when bullet had already been shot. He didn't even know time stop existed.
Spoilers for anime-onlys down below. Gojo surviving the domain has literally nothing to do with durability. He out-healed the slashes, not tanked them. At one point his entire neck is slashed, but he heals his neck right behind the cut quick enough that he doesn't die. Outside of the domain, again, it wasn't a durability issue. Limitless prevented the attacks from ever reaching him. Also, as other people have pointed out, it isn't just "difficult" to dodge a domain's sure hit effect, it is literally impossible. The attacks spawn directly on to the target with no travel time, hence limitless not being able to stop them. The one caveat most have is that they have to lock on to cursed energy, which doesn't apply to Sukuna's domain anyways.
i fully forgot about that tbh, my bad. In which case, yeah, if dio doesn't immediately stop time and crush sukunas brain before sukuna gets off a dismantle he's basically fucked
@o0ugi860 Yeah, its an interesting fight. They both have the ability to basically instantly win without the other side being able to counter. Just a matter of who actually goes for the kill first.
@Satsaru hold on tho. I thought just as a general rule for the sure hit effect of any domain that uses one was that it can only target things with cursed energy. Dismantle is for things without ce it but wouldn't it still not be a sure hit? I figured that within shrine dismantle would activate basically everywhere within it repeatedly and essentially bypass the need for a sure hit effect that way, since its just hitting everything in the domain anyway it doesn't really need to 'target' if ygm. I might be way off the mark tbh.
Sukuna literally overpowers DIO in almost every aspect. The only arguable thing DIO has over Sukuna is battle speed. The World has very fast punches but Sukuna deffo has stronger punches.
@@Brendanj101Diamond is not that hard to break irl. That’s cartoon exaggeration Also Sukuna is casually able to throw Jogo several meters under the earth while suppressed and create a massive crater. His physical strength is WAY higher than The Worlds, who is only capable of destroying buildings Even 1 finger Sukuna could casually shatter the top of a building when fighting Gojo
Same thing with Sukuna. if Sukuna is the first to understand that DIO is very dangerous, then he will activate domain expansion and this is the end for DIO. Sukuna can't counter The World time stopping, and DIO can't counter domain expansion.
DIO could easily end this fight with a timestop and crush Sukuna's head. It's just the fact that he likes to toy with his opponents that Sukuna even has a chance.
@regorthejoe7953 No not really. While I do see that happening if DIO doesn't stop time first. But considering how fast DIO acted when he fought Kakyoin, he could just stop time and kill Sukuna before anything happens. But if DIO is too arrogant you could make that argument. And DIO isn't stupid like Mimiko and Nanako. DIO would know if Sukuna is going to use his attack most likely.
DIO didnt even do ANYTHING close in power to shibuya sukuna and i watched part 3. He at most did building level shit. Aint nobody crushing Sukuna, tf? He struggled and failed to kill Jotaro who gets damaged by bullets, lost in the dumbest way, so i dont want to hear none of that nonsense.
hell, a damn finger bearer, the weakest special grade canonically is stated to have the durability to withstand carpet bombing with cluster bombs and 2 finger sukuna while holding back compared it to a mere insect, while the pillarmen, top of the foodchain can get blown to pieces by a bunch of.. grenades? the verses are NOT close in power and i hate those who pretend like they are.
@@Am-fp7pn jotaro fought many enemies so he developed various strategies and overall bIQ, has a stand very similar or the same to dio, their enemy being arrogant, and being the main character kinda make it hard to beat him in a stand battle who wouldve guessed, main character beats villain of that part
Jeez y’all hyping up dio so much. Him and ZA world pounded on the road roller with the intention of crushing jotaro. Sukuna was effortlessly cutting up buildings. I think we know who’s winning.
When jotaro and dio threw punches at each other the street was fine. Meanwhile when sukkana and Mahoraga threw punches it caused a building to collapse.
@@alc4528dio can effortlessly rip a man apart with or without his stand (the world is relative to star platinum who easily obliterated teeth with comparable durability to diamonds)
My only question is.... is Dio's mountain level punches even gonna hurt Sakuna? Cause even Dagon can generate and take Island level potency. So even without healing... would the damage even stick?
Yeah, if we look at jogo's meteor, an attack sukuna said WOULD damage him if he took it head on, we see that it's around the size of a large chunk of shibuya, so an attack that could level a mountain could certainly damage sukuna, when you consider that DIO has timestop and is overall faster than sukuna, i think he has the advantage in this fight, but this is DIO we're talking about, so he could very easily get cocky and lose to a single domain expansion. But i do think that current sukuna in the manga has a much better chance and is a more even fight.
The thing with dagon’s island is that that its a hax of the verse not actual attack potency. By the same logic gojo would have infinite power because he makes infinite space and makes infinite knowledge with void. Moreover domains are a trump card and not a normal attack, so to say each of dagon’s punches would be island level is off putting
@@jeremiahbennett3004yeah but... we know that jogo is just stronger than dagon. So him summoning a meteor doesnt have to be his total output. Its just the range... like if dagon is using his cursed energy to summon an island.... jogo would just scale higher. Jogos meteor just gotta be stronger at that point
@@franksarria9693well... the thing is that gojos ability is compared to the infinite paradox... its not really an infinite space. He just takes a finite space and makes it longer. Slowing movement down to a crawl. Its why you can just manipulate space to beat it. So hes not infinite anyway at least his cursed energy he isnt. And sure... HIS techniques are haxes... but every other cursed user isnt. Its just attack potency for jogo, for sakuna, etc. Like sure... it seems weird to scale them to their cursed techniques... but if we can use THE SUN stand for dio i think its only right for sukuna to get it as well. Not even saying he wins... but im just saying... if we give grace for dio. Should prolly do it for sukuna
Yeah this guy has always been putting JoJo’s as a verse a little higher than it should be but this is insane. Even if DIO survives the first few seconds of the fight, if Sukuna pops a domain he’s done for. Time stop can’t save him from a sure fire hit
jjk fans after realizing sukuna's domain is open: 🤯 look bro if you want to see how dio wins here's how: dio stops time and kills him here's why sukuna can't do shit about it: dio's stand is lightspeed and dio's timestop is instant, dio's timestop has 0 drawbacks nor a cooldown that stops him from using it repeatedly (does this while talking to jotaro when he's in an alleyway there's a whole scene for it) dio is literally the frames dude but infinitely times better, distance doesn't even matter for shit anyways dio could travel a whole town within seconds with his stand jump
@@flappyflap2693dios time stop def hss a cooldown or else jotaro would hsve died long ago the cooldown is just short. Dio himself is far slower thsn sukuna and his stand has a pathetic 10 meter range. Domainis sn instsnt win for sukuns it would easily destroy dios body and dio wouldnt be able to move eithout his legs hed just take the slashes. Sukuna could kill dio eith a few cleaves
@@GeoX242 dio is literally shown spamming his timestop before his stand is revealed there's no cooldown and he only doesn't spam when attacking jotaro for plot convivence and 5 seconds enough for dio to rip off sukuna's head doesn't matter anyways dio has a lightspeed stand lol
I think I see the 2nd half where either one activates their trump card going in DIO's favor, DIO's timestop can come out seemingly instantly whenever he wants it too, but also it's got the power that unlike a domain like, say, infinite void, where the sensory overload would stop DIO from activating it, Sukuna's Shrine domain is just a Domain that does damage, it doesn't really overload DIO's senses enough to prevent him from stopping time during the Domain and killing Sukuna right there
Well not necessarily, because Sukuna’s Cleave/Dismantle works on characters without Cursed Energy, as it works on inanimate objects. And if we do equalize so that Sukuna can see The World, then DIO would also need to be able to see Dismantle/Cleave.
@@powerscallingfiend nah, we can make an argument that the ftl claims are very inconsistent with what we see either Jotaro or Dio do. I mean, can you understand what the hell would happen if a fist sized object was moving at the speed of light? It would destroy a city in a matter of nanoseconds, and we certainly haven't seen that happen. And honestly it's okay, it's JoJo, with whatever shit is happening here I can suspend disbelief pretty easily and understand that it's just hype talk. But JJK takes itself more seriously, and so if we were to have a powerscaling discussion we gotta eyeball what we see. And we see a subsonic (prolly invisible) spirit who can punch quite hard coupled with a guy with mild regenerative powers and good physical strength and a timestop which lets him land a lot of free hits though it's very range dependent for obvious reasons, and in the other corner we have fucking Sukuna, who landed much better shots I've even seen the World land, took some heavy hits from Mahoraga and basically brushed it off, and has an invisible slashes that chop up basically any inanimate object in his way, from humans to metal and concrete. Am I supposed to believe that Sukuna (worst case) won't be able to take some punisment (even tho Dio would probably make him see stars at the very least) and then chop Dio up into bits? Dio has no CE, and while he's more sturdy than a regular-ass human, he's def squishier than concrete. It ain't close, the universe power levels are vastly different
could he? yes. would he? no. dio going for a head cut is extremely unlikely off rip. my guess is dio donuts or knifes sukuna with time stop, sukuna RCTs, and then sukuna inflicts a debilitating cleave on DIO, because as we know, a bisect, or a decapitation, is prob gonna means he aint living till the day. and would minimally give sukuna enough time to whip out domain expansion, and evaporate him. However, if you bloodlust DIO, or plug a controller in his ass, then dio should win no diff at all.
The most interesting and game changing part of this is the information regarding DIO's ability to regenerate. He's still very much alive (while not kicking) after being cut in half with the perfect counter, hamon. Hell, his head was the only thing that remains and he was still alive!
It seems like, a sufficient amount of damage, leaves him catatonic. but its somewhere between, decapitation, and vertical bisecting. but regardless after either, he cant exactly move very well. I would posit we can probably guess DIO does not have conceptual regeneration. I.e. atomic level destruction will kill him. which sukuna can do. so after the debilitating strong dismantle, i think sukuna can just destroy DIO with malevolent shrine. and if its megumi sukuna, he could probably use mahoroga to adapt before dio can get a killing blow. but if you disagree with all that, then you gotta give sukuna a time frame where if can part 3 style incapacitate DIO, he can win with sunlight. otherwise its just a mismatch i guess.@@hisayaren8324
But did you forget that DIO is able to survive as just a head? He can be cut in half, decapitated, burned. As long as his brain isn't torn to extremely tiny bits, he lives. Sukuna needs time to activate Malevolent Shrine. DIO's time stop is truely instant. Furthermore, DIO just needs to perception blitz Sukuna (which he can since he can just time stop and move to Sukuna safely) and use The World to pass through Sukuna and destroy his entire body. Stands cannot be harmed by Sukuna.
This is the second video where I see Sukuna magically lose to characters who can’t one shot him without prior knowledge to his healing. We’ve seen Sukuna literally chop a high school girl to nothing but blood splatter and dio cannot heal a wound without having a blood source but somehow Sukuna still loses. Makes sense
@@klol-ld8jrwhere’s the speed of light calc coming from? That’s a wild claim with no backing from what’s immediately apparent in the anime or manga so there needs to be serious reasoning for why that is and how other characters can react/how the planet isn’t destroyed. Unless it’s saying effectively light speed + due to time stop which would be fair
@@Rl55322 star platinum is the same stand as the world (literally canonically stated) and it's lightspeed in the data books, the show also shows this by the jotaro and his gang deflecting *literal* light beams from a stand that replicates the sun there's also waay more stuff to prove it's lightspeed as well
@@flappyflap2693dio himself is nowhere near the speed of light. First of all that light speed statement is likely taking into account his speed in time stop but even if we ignore thst and say the world is regularly faster thsn light, dio is still much slower than the world and the world has limited range, what stops sukuna from killing dio at distance?
Bro? How’s this even a debate, dio isn’t crushing sukunas brain (the world was barely able to break jotaros bones) + there’s the fact sukuna has a complete full health + energy regen by transforming into his heian era form, sukuna DESTROYS
@@Vin499dio’s durability is questionable, dude lost a leg to a shard of glass falling on it. Jojo characters are very much glass cannons with some of them having crazy broken abilities.
Dio broke Jotaro bone when he awakens, what the hell are you smoking at. Dio barely gets close to Jotaro after he flinches in Ts and uses long range attacks and other people to kill him, its the reason why it took so long for Dio to try and kill Jotaro while he was playing dead because he is so paranoid of him getting closer. And once Dio literally got fucking close he eviscerated Jotaro bones in a matter of kicks, thats how strong he is and not to mention the Donut and the fact he threw a fucking whole road roller with ease. So no Dio can easily crush Sukuna brain like a goddamn watermelon if he gets close.
Honestly Dio is just so ridiculously fast that as soon as he takes just one hit from cleave he’d probably just stop time and blitz him into dust. This is how any fight with him would go where he has a speed advantage and is being serious.
Sukuna can't use domain expansion. Or well, he'll start it and DIO sees that and activates time stop. DIO can just fly extremely quickly to Sukuna and destroy every bit of Yuji's body. And we know he can, since The World is the same stand as Star Platinum. If Sukuna is even able to activate domain expansion: DIO instantly stops time as soon as he gets hit by it. Then proceeds to destroy Sukuna.
@@mtsfmmm5521 in order to destroy something u need power too, That's like giving a 10 yo child a time stopping ability of 5 seconds and then putting him against Ironman
Sukuna can probably cut Dio in half with 1 slash I mean Dios leg got cut off with a random glass shard and sukunas slashes are invisible so Dio wouldnt even know its coming
@@noahsylvester1754sukuna can perceive the soul and stands are a manifestation of ones soul so you can make an argument he can see the world and still it doesnt even matter the worlds range is 2m and sukuna has way better range to one shot dio
@@SernX982 range doesn't matter much when you have timestop, which dio has, and with joseph's blood he's more than capable of closing in within the 10 or so seconds he has
@@noahsylvester1754 Range does matter, dio needs to be really close while sukuna can send slashes from across an entire city their range isnt comparable. And sukuna is a ranged fighter how is dio getting in close? he cant move at light speeds only the world can thats why I don't get the blitz one shot arugument.
Something else of note would be the difference in magic systems. Non-stand users can't see stands, so Sukuna would not be able to tell where Dio's abilities and attacks are coming from, giving Dio the advantage if he got up close. But Dio's time stop isn't a domain expansion, so it might not actually stop Sukuna's guaranteed cuts, only delay them from hitting Dio for a few seconds - and Sukuna's domain doesn't have any official time limit on how long he can maintain it, but it's certainly longer than Dio's time stop - so if Dio is caught in Sukuna's domain at longer range he's done for.
Wait what? There isn’t a chance that anyone thinks that DIO could possibly beat Sukuna. First of all, Sukuna has reversed curse technique which means if DIO doesn’t stop time then Sukuna will not be able to be damaged. Secondly, as soon as he decides to use his Domain it’s over. DIO gets shredded. You seriously think that something that killed Mahoraga wouldn’t kill DIO? Aswell as Sukuna being strong physically and fast with fire abilities and cursed energy.
@@marlondalli2895 listen… i love JoJo and DIO even more than JJK but seriously how does anyone think that the man that killed Gojo is getting killed by some gay vampire that almost died to a plain ass man with sunlight powers.
Giorno with GER, Johnny with Act 4, Gappy with Go Beyond maybe even base SNW if you believe he could take infinity and Tequila Joseph claps both cheeks
This reminds my of the time when someone in part 1 said that vampires could die in 3 ways. The sun, magic sunlight punches (hamon), and completely obliterating their brain. Seems like DIO and Sukuna would have fun with each other
i think because of cursed energy reinforcement, dio would stop time and literally be unable to damage sukuna. then sukuna just uses dismantle and dio instantly dies. he doesn’t even need shrine. if sukuna has mahoraga, he just puts the wheel on himself and dio is literally unable to win
the interesting thing with jojo scaling is that while stands do move at ftl speeds, most stand users reaction time does not scale to their stands and is well below even the speed of sound (there are plenty of examples of this in part 3 and up, where stand users like jotaro get injured by moving objects going slower than the speed of sound) as such while dio is fast enough to overwhelm many characters with speed he isn't necessarily immune to being also speed blitzed by characters who are slower than himself.
"ah yes, my stand, star platinum. I havent used this since the heien era." - probaly sukana
"Ah yes, my _______. I haven't used this since the heian era" is literally the new age version of "So it's the same type of stand as Star Platinum" at this point.
@@HeavensEqualGreatSage I wouldnt say new age version, I would just call it the jjk version. I still see people use both all the time 😭
@@MeatyMani I mean jojo came out decades ago
@@HeavensEqualGreatSageMy Anti- Same-type-of-stand weapon. I haven’t used this since the Heian Era.
Actually though, what was the original text?
@@Aaa-vp6ugfr bro, the meme is so spammed idk the original Lmao 💀
"Ahh yes my anti-timestop cursed technique from the heian era, I hadnt used this in ages"
"I cant wait to use my definitely real ability from the heian era" Ahh moment💀 (no offense)
Something I love about the anime adaptation of part 3 is the added scene of Joseph shouting "I will take that body back in the name of Grandma Erina!!!". A great reference to the fact that Jonathan's body and heart belongs to her and not DIO
I understand context, but
That sounds so Gay
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Bro, is JoJos. The word "straight" doesn't exist here
@@TetsuShima Ik just saying btw
You dare approach me?
@@micheallove8177I’m just getting closer to you to punch you
@@micheallove8177 I can't kiss you passionately without getting closer.
I think pt.3 Dio would not actually let the fight carry on to long. Before drinking Joseph’s blood, Dio was extremely careful not to lose to his own arrogance a second time. That’s why he spent so long making sure Jotoro was dead.
Dio would probably fight Sukuna to the point where a hole is blown through his chest. When Sukuna doesn’t die, he would probably act impressed, talk a whole bunch of shit about “I went easy on you, but just wait till next time.” And then nope out because he wouldn’t want to take the chance.
Cleave 💀
@@QuandaviousD.Dio also regens, Plus his durability goes CRAZY taking hits from star platinum
@@cuckmeister3193yes but the speed of the cleaves is kinda faster than his regenration
@@justafreind2610 in the current chapter he couldnt even cleave through higaruma
@@cuckmeister3193he wasn’t trying plus Higuruma was using domain amplification to nerf the output 🤦♂️
Would Dio survive against Sukuna's plot armor?
Get ready for the Sukuna fans to immediately think you’re a Gojo fan and start spewing nonsense😂😂
@@Jay-Voorheesthe latest chapter proves Sukuna has crazy plot armor
@@VA1920I honestly don't see how you can say sukuna doesn't have plot armor.
ChatGegeT glazing Sukuna so hard they made Higuruma have a literal lapse of judgment LMFAO
But doesn’t Dio get more plot armour anyways?
Speaking of Tarkus and Bruford, I think their fight against Jonathan was one of the most underrated in the entire franchise. Not only Tarkus is a formidable villain, but also Bruford gave us one of the most emotional deaths in JoJos.
"If I can feel pain...I can feel joy as well..."
😢
Blueford
Blueford
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It's Bruford in some translations
@@TetsuShimatrue, but blueford funny
If that's the case Dio has to Stop time and speed blitz (I have never seen Dio Speedblitz anyone, he advances very slowly and monologues thought XD, can he really find him in a 200-meter radius and kill him in 5 sec?)
I feel like DIO's battle IQ gets a little downplayed sometimes when people bring up his ego; but when you actually watch how he thinks over the course of a battle, as soon as something proves to be dangerous to him, he takes zero chances and focuses on neutralizing his opponent asap. This on top of his ability to use pseudo teleportation and near-instant almost omni-directional projectiles with the precision of The World via timestop, means as soon as Sukuna gets taken seriously it's just a countdown until DIO goes for the head imo.
Is that why he went to get Rolla rollanda to beat jotaro? Get serious dude he isn't going be serious at all
@@pfuze_5775 I feel like you would’ve had a point if the only time DIO was ever in the story was strictly the road roller scene. I highly recommend at least reading pt 3, but all of Jojo’s is a good read
@@pfuze_5775He was literally using the road roller to kill jotaro to avoid getting close to him and to crush him to death. He was taking him seriously because that was the most overkill thing he could have done. He wanted Jotaro fucking dead at that point after the blow he took to the head.
They're both intelligent fighters. But I think it's important to keep in mind that Sukuna is a far older being with lifetimes of fighting experience compared to Dio who spent a large portion of his undead life in a coffin on the bottom of the sea.
@@the_markoman I think to that point, it doesn’t seem to matter outside of power system mastery and martial arts. In terms of battle IQ and tactical feats, DIO and the Jojo’s universe as a whole just has the better and more consistent showings with no need for assumption and conjecture
Imagine sukuna throwing away his heart to show off and then dio chugging it lol
LMAAOO
fortnite big bot sound effect
“You gonna eat that?”
I say it depends how DIO fights. If he decides to treat Sukuna more like Kakyoin then it’s over for Sukuna. If DIO plays with Sukuna like he did with Jotaro then it’s over for DIO. Pretty interesting fight though, I could see it going either way
this is very ironic as they both love testing their targets before killing them, so it's a matter of who decides to "im done with you, now die" first
@@ricedolphin7348doesnt ryomen sukuna just have rct and can heal
@@vongolatx4828so can dio, bro is vampire
@@ssaladass6429 but his regeneration is not good compared to sukuna
@@vongolatx4828all it takes is a headshot and sakuna is dead
Dio having stop time is just too powerful. Sukuna can regenerate but Dio essentially can press the pause button on it. Only way Sukuna stands a chance is by catching Dio off guard with a domain expansion. It has to work that way, otherwise you're nerfing Dio by having him act out of character. A time stop means death, and if Sukuna's head gets removed and starts regenerating I don't feel like Dio's gonna hold off to talk to Sukuna while it happens.
He can't regenerate if his torso is cut in half lol
@@powerscallingfiendyes he can where did this idea come from???
@@RealGalxy human's torso is where all cursed anergy coming from through all body. It was explained lol
@@kiril10Cursed energy comes from the stomach, rct comes from the brain
@@RealGalxythey're just mad that gojos dead due to being sliced in half and unable to regenerate. Dw Sukuna can regenerate so long as his brain is fine
Dio drains Sukuna, accidentally makes Jonathan a vessel for Sukuna. Sukuna then interacts with Jonathan's soul, makes a binding vow to return the body to Jonathan and defeat Dio, Jonathan refuses to accept as he doesn't need to live, his body can be destroyed, but he won't risk Sukuna simply being a new Dio and using his body for evil. Sukuna's counter offer is the same he offered Yuji, he can switch at any time he chants and can't kill anyone during that time. Jonathan, being more naieve and less jaded than Yuji, takes the deal.
Dio loses. Jonathan lives again with cursed energy, hamon and a stand, and becomes the strongest protag of JJBA and JJK.
That’s a power fantasy fic waiting to happen
My guy, isn't jonathan dead?
His soul is LONG GONE
@@Xandreonigiri69420dead ass
Now for Jonathan's most difficult challenge. Explaining to Erina that he had no control over what DIO did with those women. I don't he'll make it
Kakyoin: "NOTHING CAN DEFLECT THE EMERALD SPLASH!!!"
DIO: "Ah, that brings back beautiful memories of my encounter with a guy named Dire. His "unstoppable" technique didn't work, but it was still a pain" *Rubs eye*
the fuck does this have to do with dio vs sukuna
@@DokkanLadwho knows who cares
@@DokkanLadgetting angry for no reason
Why can Dios leg get cut off by a piece of glass but not get choped up by Sukuna
thats a good point
That is an incongruity, first, it was intended to imply that he was still "weak" because of the hamon that Jonathan's body still had and that the body was trying to repel Dio, also the glass cuts his leg But then he survives a full SP punch straight to his brain, when his head should have exploded like a watermelon.
@@mabFullMoonits not an inconsidtency or anything. Dio "survives" jotaros punch because it doesnt completely destroy his brsin and his vsmpite healing kicks in. Its not a dursbility feat considering jotaro literally destroyed dios skull. Dio getting an entire leg cut off by a regulsr piece of glass means that dismantle is EASILY cutting through him
@@mabFullMoonyour stupid, first of all no, dio litterally got his skull caved in, johnathans body resisted him but it was maybe like a 5% decrease in stats at most
@@GeoX242Dio does not heal from getting punched in the head until he drinks blood from Joseph. You're literally cherrypicking feats and making up reasons for why one is valid and the other is not. Dio straight up tanked a shot to the head from Star Platinum, and then took another barrage. If Dio was actually that weak, he absolutely would have been dead from that. Those punches would have atomized him given how he was incapable of healing before drinking Joseph's blood.
Honestly, I think Dio has all the tools he needs to win. The problem is...well, he is Dio, and while Sukuna is also likes to kinda play with his food, he is nowhere near as much of a poser and a petty twat (remember the Polnareff ladder scene?).
So unless he goes serious relativly fast - he's gonna get cooked.
Fr that speed that only reason dio even has a chance jjk is just a really slow verse.
@@saadabdullah5786nah he has strenght too also this is just base dio not awakened
@@saadabdullah5786jjk is moderately slow
@@samuraituff9653 Ye he has strength but if sukuna had matching speed he would win cuz of better hacks.
@@saadabdullah5786 Unless I missed Sukuna's reality bending while reading the manga Dio's time stop hack is way better than Sukuna's hacks.
Long time fan of the channel. I would like to point out two things.
1. Dio, without a domain, would be subject to the sure hit factor of Sakunas domain, they cleaves would hit him.
2. The reason Sakunas cleaves haven't hurt people in the past we're either because his output was extremely low(I believe 10%) or the recipient was using rct.
I think if Sukuna used his domain expansion, it would be Game over for Dio.
On the flip side, if Dio isn't playing games he could kill him easily with The World, but it seems unlikely due to his proclivity to knives
Great video but a little bit of a misunderstanding of domain expansion. It’s not just that the attacks are extremely hard to dodge, they are literally guaranteed to hit their intended target. Though I have only watched the anime on dub so I might be misunderstanding it.
Yeah. And gojo only survived malevolent shrine *because* of his advanced rct
You're right, the attacks pretty much don't exist before they hit the target. Think of domains as a bowl of water and the attack is the user's cursed energy. You're litterally drowning in the source of the attacks just waiting for the user to manifest them right on top of you.
You've got that 100% right. And then there's the fact that Sukuna has dismantle target inanimate objects too which means DIO literally has no way to not get hit via endless slashes
@@dominocut2963dio is faster
@@Emporio_of_Lighthe won't even have time to even make a domain expansion, Jojo Stan above silver chariot have lightspeed attack speeds and reaction time .Dio is equivalent to jotaro Stan that's faster than sliver chariot.
I think sukunas ability to see and attack the soul would allow him to see the world, and if we take personality into account, the moment sukunas feels disrespected he's just Gunna fuck dio up
*Dio taller than sukuna*
Sukuna : "You hold your head high like your better than me"
*FUKIN SLICES EVERYTHING IN A MASSIVE CITY BLOCK OVER 1000 TIMES*
Dios just way too fast, he could just stop time before sukuna could do anything and cut off his head. Though if sukuna immediately attacked using slashes he could probably kill dio first. So its more like a quickdraw
but are we talking weakened Dio? (still unable to use all his vampire abilities) or perfect Dio?
@@melpmaz7041there's no perfect dio they're using the dio that appears in the manga
i believe sukuna would win because even when dio lost a leg he still kept playing and testing jotaro instead of killing him which i believe he'd keep being cocky towards sukuna which will cause dio to lose
@@AniliusRebornwhat ? Its death match dio will kill him before he even register dio presents
What makes you assume dio would do that let alone DECAPITATE someone of sukuna’s durability
Dio just has the Gilgamesh issue. Whenever he's in character he can lose to enemies that wouldn't have a chance ever.
Damn this is gonna be interesting- I could see it go either way but I’m leaning towards DIO
But if you wanna say the soul damage thing applies it might give Sukuna the edge
what if (theory):stands are your fighting spirit,right?So thats basically a soul.So i dont think it would give sukuna the edge,it would mean that the stand could directl attack the curse
Didn't Jojo state vampires don't have a soul?
W don pfp
@randomyoutuber2633 I don't know, but the point is that Sukuna could harm the World, and if he destroys the World, DIO dies.
@@Annihilate0405 Aren't stands lightspeed, I mean Silver Chariot was, and Star Platnium and the World were way quicker than SC.
King of curses vs king of vampires
Dio is not the king of Vampires 💀
I feel like Sukuna would win most times if Dio doesn’t gauge his strength properly or underestimates his durability. Dio and Sukuna both are prone to toying with their opponent but Sukuna tends to get things over with quicker than Dio, who tends to talk more. If Dio was being serious, he could just stop time immediately and cut off/ destroy Sukuna’s head. Sukuna could probably tank a few punches from the World due to cursed energy reinforcement, but The World at full strength could punch a hole or pulverize a part of Sukuna’s body. Dio can stop time to get out of Malevolent Shrine, but he does have to activate The World before MS takes effect or he’s done. The World also could react fast enough to parry Dismantle, but Cleave might be something The World nor Dio could handle. Sukuna also has a larger effective range of attack even without Domain Expansion. Dio’s regeneration is a non factor here unless Sukuna sends him flying and happens to still be feeling him out/ doesn’t activate Domain Expansion, because Sukuna is used to opponents regenerating. So in summary it’s a high diff, quick draw fight if Dio wants to win.
Also when I mean Dio can get out of Malevolent Shrine, I mean he has to stop time and kill Sukuna immediately. If Sukuna already has a few slashes out before Dio kills him and resumes time, he’s probably getting maimed at the least. A fast Dio stopping time right before MS takes effect could result in a draw or a barely surviving win for Dio.
the thing is even if dio stop time to escape sukuna's domain expansion, i highly doubt dio can out run sukuna's 200meter attack but the rest i agree with u
@@noahjackie116 dio can just kill the curse user. Obliterating sukuna into a red paste is all the world would have to do.
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Ngl, I was genuinely disappointed when tge anime didn't adapt the iconic "Jotaro and DIO getting closer" panel. It would have been simply EPIC to see that sh*t animated, with Roundabout playing again as the episode ends
Dio doesn’t have insane durability, he has regeneration thanks to being a vampire. Just remember that he got his leg chopped off by some large glass shards in the Jotaro fight. You also have to remember that his regeneration was slower before drinking Joseph’s blood, where a single blow to the head from Star Platinum (ik that it’s incredibly powerful) was enough to stop him from healing and almost crippled him (made him unable to use his legs).
Yeah but can't say that to the jojo fan boys
STAR Platinum's weakest punch = Sukuna's strongest punch
lmao bro but sorry to bust your bubble - sukuna cant even land 1 hit on Dio , dio too fast and smarter than sukuna , b4 sukuna can make out about his stands abilities -he's dead meat
Sukuna is NOT winning this lil bro 💀
@@Sohansen-vr8ph I never said he would win, let alone land a hit on Dio. I was just saying that Dio isn't THAT durable, he can and will get injured when he is hit (ignoring the regeneration aspect of his overall stats).
I got a JJK ad before this. . I’m laughing my ass off
Let's not forget that Sukuna blocked Mahoraga's blade with his arm. Now. That attack left a crater in the ground which is a feat Jojo characters struggle to do (I personally only remember Act 4 Johnny to be capable of this). A blunt force attack is different from the swing of a blade in terms of delivering kinetic energy. Sukuna being durable enough to withstand THE CONCENTRATED FORCE of that attack (that as an aftereffect left a crater in the ground) on his skin without needing major recovery gives me the feeling that it's not sure The World/Dio would even have the destructive prowess enough to even harm Sukuna's body. This is a major factor considering their power levels. If Dio is not strong enough to generate enough BLUNT FORCE (his knives are far less durable than Mahoraga's blade so they're out of the equasion) than there is no possibility that he has a chance against Shibuya Arc Sukuna. His eye laser is the closest thing I can imagine capable of harming Sukuna, which is still problematic for him, since healing from a clean cut is close to nothing for curses. Also Dio's prime vampire body was already susceptible to cuts (not to mention his nerfed part3 body), so Sukuna would have an easy time chopping him up.
To be fair, stands like the World and Star Platnium can easily make craters, but Araki probably doesn't like to make them or something like that. If Star Platnium can easily break buildings and more, but can't make a crater.......
ın the ova they were throwıng around towers and dıo even destroyed one wıthout the world so no they can easıly destroy buıldıngs
@@Iaitreadinallat I mean... the OVA is a questionable source to begin with. Yet, even there he chipped that tower away piece by piece though, so it's more of a feat of speed you ask me. Rather than power. Even then, that's still something 15 finger sukuna can just shrug off easily. But okay. Let's say Dio had a means to damage Sukuna. Then it would be close to draw, depending on who makes the deadly move first. Either Sukuna chops Dio to small pieces or Dio stops time and destroys Sukuna's brain. Highly debatable, but an interesting topic nevertheless
@danielpuskas1189 no it isnt lmao if sukuna is hit with ftl diamond breaking punches he is dying
@@danielpuskas1189is sukuna tries to cast a move he gets speed blitzed
It feels like a fight of who attacks first and if Dio gets eggotistical cause if Dio attacks first and figures out sukuna heals he's gonna cave his skull in but is Sukuna attacks first either that kills dio or he realises it can't and uses domain expansion (if Dio gives him the chance) which will kill him
Freezing time is just that OP
The battle of off screen haki is crazy while Blackbeard sitting on the side line to see who of his friends are stronger
1 thing we have to consider here is that this sukuna in this fight is not full power it's only 15 fingers meaning him dying in this fight would not be completely killing him due to the fact there is 5 more of his fingers still out there meaning he just can come back at a later date. Also in the manga it's stated that when in sukuna's domain attacks start going immediately so dio would need to completely avoid domain expansion completely
“So it’s the same type of Domain Expansion as Malevolent Shrine” - King of Plot Armor, Sukuna
I feel like dio may try to donut sukuna. But as we’ve seen sukuna can survive without a heart so his main method wouldnt work. Unless sukunas host is able to take over and kill themself so sukuna cant continue. Dio would be surprised that sukuna survived the donut. Panic internally for a few hours then sukuna would probably be like “aight this dude somehow donuted me instantly without me seeing him hes dangerous so. D o m a i n e x p a n s i o n
Your thoughts
If Dio was in the JJK universe, his "The World" would be like a borderless domain expansion that affects everything around him. Just like Sukuna's Malevolent Shrine.
Fun fact: in brazilian voice acting, both Sukuna and Dio are dubed by the same voice actor
sukuna is going to pull out the "so its the same type of technique as cleave and dismantle?"
I feel people forget that dio only toyed with jotaro due to him being curious about star platinum similar power. Sukuna wont be toyed with like that...
No it’s very in character for him to try to toy with people look at polnareff
cause he was with jojo else it wouldnt happen ~@@Wezlii530
@@Wezlii530He very much knew about Polnareff's abilities and had nothing to fear from a meathead. Dio definitively play at first, but he doesn't play alot around with actually dangerous opponents.
@@V1_Ultrakiller dio was way too cocky it didn’t matter he played with basically everyone at first and only started to take jotaro seriously after their first clash that’s the whole reason he clashed with jotaro in the first place, to just prove he’s stronger outright
@@Wezlii530 he didn't toy with kakoyin 😿
Everyone forgot Dio's part 1 abilities, huh?
Freezing something that was similar to the energy of sun is overpowered
A fight between them will round up to who decides to stop playing around faster. Taking character into consideration, Sukuna is shown to play around more often than Dio (with strangers, Dio wastes much more time with the main cast than he does with side characters because of personal reasons), and that leads me to think that Dio wouldn't waste time on someone that he has nothing to do with and will just kill him with time stop. From there, I guess that Sukuna would either realize the danger and kill Dio on the spot or waste a few more seconds on flexing / playing around and die from the second time stop.
well sukuna would be impressed by DIO's "shikigami" that managed to donut him, but with that he eithers test how strong is DIO's body or uses domain expansion after regenerating the damage because of "how fast is that shikigami"
How would dio damage sukuna, even if he time stopped a whole barrage of punches only dented a road roller while sukuna out here suriviving nukes
@@theyfwsam2046 Physics, and the fact that Sukuna needs a brain to activate reverse cursed technique.
@@anonymanonymus4706 still havent elaborated on how dio’s supposed to output damage higher then a mf that can tank attacks that scale higher then literal nukes
@@theyfwsam2046 Kinetic energy is calculated by speed (remember school?). In stopped time, speed is infinite, and that's why he is able to throw a roadrunner, as well as damage Sukuna in stopped time.
Kaleb, I have some intriguing video ideas for you! How about exploring a scenario where the entire Joestar family, including the Steel Ball Run universe, comes together to prevent the Shibuya incident? Alternatively, you could discuss which Jojo, along with their crew, might have the best chance of stopping this incident among the 9 Jojos. Another interesting concept is exploring whether Gojo could successfully clear the villains from each Jojo part. Lastly, pondering how Gappy with Go Beyond would fare in the JJK universe could be a unique exploration. Would love to hear your thoughts on these ideas!
Bruh Tusk Act 4 is basically Gojo but better
Mountain level DIO is the most insane shit I’ve ever heard
Don’t ever let this man powerscale again 😂
Ngl i was confused when i heard that, we never saw dio destroy a city and now bro says his ap is that of mountain lvl (dc=ap).
@@Daniel_figsdc does NOT = AP
@@Nitrogenic Dc is destructive capabilities, meaning how much can you destroy we scale this by using things such as building, block,multi block,town, city,island,country, etc. Ap is attack potentcy meaning how potent or output of your attack, if you can output enough to destroy a whole city its both ap and dc and you can destroy a city (your dc) and your attack is potent enough to be able to have enough output to also destroy something like a city (ap) , both ap and dc can be used to show how MUCH you can destroy and what CAN you destroy, its like how powerful your attack is can show your durability as in order for you to use excert that much energy you must also be durable enough to take it (its a law of physics).
@@Nitrogenic What ap has dio shown? Or his durability compared to sukuna? Sukuna has been shown to survive attacks which destroyed a city, has dio shown this?
@@Daniel_figs you're missing the point entirely. Most fictional characters have much higher AP than their shown dc, you're trying to explain to me something I already know. Usong physics itself, the Silver Chariot deflecting sun beams is in the city to mountain range. There's also scaling above stone free who deflected meteors, SP sucking a city, arguably Heavy Weather destroying the ozone layer potentially with statements or C-Moon inverting 3 KM worth of AoE, stuff like that
Ahh yes, my anti-timestop technique. I haven't used this since the Heian era
If DIO dosen't mess around, Sukuna gets blitzed without the need of timestop MFTL+ vs Hypersonic is horrible. If DIO does get hit by a DE its pretty much over. All Sukuna needs to do is entirely obliterate the brain of a vampire.
Destroying the brain only works against DIO specifically. Straitzo had his entire body annihilated by grenades and regenerated no problem
Dio himself cant love at mftl speeds though. Sukuna can just stand a good 30m away from him and use malevolent shrine. Dio only wins if he can get close enough to be within punching range in his 5-10 second time stop.
@@russianbot5302Dio Counteracts his slow movement speed, stopping time and approaching so
Moving at faster than light speeds will literally blow your body into pieces
@@griddycheeseNot by anime logic, you’ll have randos going lightspeed and not nuking whatever continent they’re on upon movement.
Been so curious to see some JJK vs JJBA matchups. This is great!
I think it's a no brainer, DIO is cocky, yes, but it only over comes him when a Joestar is involved. In his fights and dealing with everyone he was being cautious to not let his arrogance over come him, but with the Joestar's he was more arrogant, and couldn't keep control. DIO is going to kill Sukana the moment he realizes that Sukana is strong and perhaps equal to him (but not the world. DIO was VERY admament about The World being his most powerful weapon and that it wasn't part of himself, but more like a tool.) And Domain Expansion, while powerful, won't really be able to deal with DIO. DIO is very paranoid, the moment Sukana brings it out, he's going to seek to destroy Sukana as fast as possible and use back to back time stops.
Also, something I don't really see people bring up. After The World was destroyed DIO was STILL ALIVE, which is something I think should be taken into account as surviving having your soul obliterated isn't something most mfs live from.
i mean he did have two stands so i guess he could live without one
sukuna can literally speed blitz dio before he can stop time
@six5825 DIO is faster than light and can teleport. Sukuna is not beating the Fraudkuna allegations in this one.
@flappyflap2693 Technically, the other stand was Jonathan's, but since he controlled his body he controlled his stand. That one isn't hus own soul, like The World is, that's part of the reason why stands woke up in the Joestar bloodline all at once, was essentially the kidnapping, controlling, and usage of the stand not necessarily of the body.
@@KraNisOGhe is NOT faster than light without timestop
Love the vids man keep it up💪🏻
The problem is dio character is just too arrgoant if we didn't include his character i think he wins
Don’t forget dio already had other abilities like fire and ice breath lazer beam eyes and he also has a second stand hermit purple
sukuna aint seeing the world so thats a +
Just a note, domains have sure hit effects, and Sukuna's sure hit effect is the entire 200 meters, but people with no cursed energy aren't affected by sure hit effects like Maki and Toji, while idk if Sukuna is an exception, there isn't anything saying he is, so the entirr fit is if DIO decides to just end it witgout fucking around
Stand proud Sukuna, you are strong 🗣
I think that if Sukuna’s slashes are still active during stopped time (they still “exist” and cut DIO) it may be a good defense and will force DIO to maneuver around them to heal from Sukuna. But still, DIO’s time stop hard counter’s Malevolent Shrine if it isn’t on cooldown and he can destroy it in time. It just boils down to whoever can figure out the others’ abilities faster. Though, I’d have to give it to Sukuna for his sheer destructive capability and probably baiting DIO out of time stop to open his domain.
I honestly question if Dio’s attacks could harm Sukuna, I'm not calling Jojo's characters weak, they have some of the best hax, but their durability is that of a normal human (unless your Kars, than its of the perfect life form on earth) with their strength being questionable since strategy is the most important thing in battle in that verse.
Jojo characters fight along side aspect of there souls. The greatest source of damage in Jjk is soul damage so at some those two Schools of thought will converge in we'd get an answer. Also Sukuna isn't like Mahito he can be killed by beating him to death you just have to be strong enough to do it
If SP/TW can break through diamond, I think ofc Dio can harm
@@ShadeThaArtist yes, but once again their durability is the same as any other human.
@@Moon_in_Flames I can see your point, but it takes nukes to get rid of a regular special grade much more for Sukuna who had planetary statements.
Dio's durability is way higher than a normal human😂. Dark Blue Moon could create a whirlpool just with it's physical strength and Jotaro dog walked the guy. Dio is capable of taking multiple punches from Star Platinum and getting up, so calling him "on the level of a normal human" is stupid
Dio and his stand "the world against sukuna"? Damn
timestop + head chop
When you think about it, Malevolent shrine is basically a rapid fire constantly firing Emerald Barrier
Issue with sukuna is they really don't say if he can manipulate time. Dio really only needs to stop time and deliver a fatal blow
@regorthejoe7953Time Stop is faster
@@lazyvoid7107 source?
@@punyama9jotaro who is faster than light not being able to react to dios ts
@regorthejoe7953 A bullet is approximately 3000 km/h Sound is approximately 1000-1300 km/h. Dio stopped when bullet had already been shot. He didn't even know time stop existed.
Simple strategy for DIO: Zawurdo . Punch sukuna drain his blood before time stop or control sukuna with DIO parasites
But could sukuna deflect the emerald splash?
He can't.
@@hisayaren8324
In fact, NO ONE CAN.
talking abt some DIO vs Sukuna give johnny his wheel chair and he solos the whole jjk verse 😭😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏🙏
Spoilers for anime-onlys down below.
Gojo surviving the domain has literally nothing to do with durability. He out-healed the slashes, not tanked them. At one point his entire neck is slashed, but he heals his neck right behind the cut quick enough that he doesn't die. Outside of the domain, again, it wasn't a durability issue. Limitless prevented the attacks from ever reaching him. Also, as other people have pointed out, it isn't just "difficult" to dodge a domain's sure hit effect, it is literally impossible. The attacks spawn directly on to the target with no travel time, hence limitless not being able to stop them. The one caveat most have is that they have to lock on to cursed energy, which doesn't apply to Sukuna's domain anyways.
The sure hit effect of a domain only works on those with cursed energy regardless
@o0ugi860 Not Sukuna's. His uses dismantle and cleave, one of which explicitly targets things without cursed energy.
i fully forgot about that tbh, my bad. In which case, yeah, if dio doesn't immediately stop time and crush sukunas brain before sukuna gets off a dismantle he's basically fucked
@o0ugi860 Yeah, its an interesting fight. They both have the ability to basically instantly win without the other side being able to counter. Just a matter of who actually goes for the kill first.
@Satsaru hold on tho. I thought just as a general rule for the sure hit effect of any domain that uses one was that it can only target things with cursed energy. Dismantle is for things without ce it but wouldn't it still not be a sure hit? I figured that within shrine dismantle would activate basically everywhere within it repeatedly and essentially bypass the need for a sure hit effect that way, since its just hitting everything in the domain anyway it doesn't really need to 'target' if ygm. I might be way off the mark tbh.
Plotkuna: Ah yes the "this is the same type of stand as star platinum" technique I haven't used since Heian era.
Sukuna literally overpowers DIO in almost every aspect. The only arguable thing DIO has over Sukuna is battle speed. The World has very fast punches but Sukuna deffo has stronger punches.
There is no chance Sukuna punches harder than The World who is equal to Star Platinum who effortlessly broke something as hard as diamond.
@@Brendanj101Diamond is not that hard to break irl. That’s cartoon exaggeration
Also Sukuna is casually able to throw Jogo several meters under the earth while suppressed and create a massive crater. His physical strength is WAY higher than The Worlds, who is only capable of destroying buildings
Even 1 finger Sukuna could casually shatter the top of a building when fighting Gojo
@@Brendanj101 i mean, 1 finger sukuna sent megumi flying through like 150 meters lol
and we are talking about 15 finger sukuna
Lmao funniest shit I've read 😂😂😂 Sukuna doesn't over power in him in any regard this headcanon like a mf
“Sukuna deffo has stronger punches” dumbass that’s called headcannon unless you have proof
fellas:he beat me
fellas:i won
Once DIO perceives Sukuna as a threat, it's basically a matter of TIME (hehe pun)
Same thing with Sukuna. if Sukuna is the first to understand that DIO is very dangerous, then he will activate domain expansion and this is the end for DIO.
Sukuna can't counter The World time stopping, and DIO can't counter domain expansion.
This whole fight boils down to the idea of 'who stops playing with their food first?'
DIO could easily end this fight with a timestop and crush Sukuna's head. It's just the fact that he likes to toy with his opponents that Sukuna even has a chance.
@regorthejoe7953 No not really. While I do see that happening if DIO doesn't stop time first. But considering how fast DIO acted when he fought Kakyoin, he could just stop time and kill Sukuna before anything happens. But if DIO is too arrogant you could make that argument. And DIO isn't stupid like Mimiko and Nanako. DIO would know if Sukuna is going to use his attack most likely.
DIO didnt even do ANYTHING close in power to shibuya sukuna and i watched part 3. He at most did building level shit. Aint nobody crushing Sukuna, tf? He struggled and failed to kill Jotaro who gets damaged by bullets, lost in the dumbest way, so i dont want to hear none of that nonsense.
hell, a damn finger bearer, the weakest special grade canonically is stated to have the durability to withstand carpet bombing with cluster bombs and 2 finger sukuna while holding back compared it to a mere insect, while the pillarmen, top of the foodchain can get blown to pieces by a bunch of.. grenades? the verses are NOT close in power and i hate those who pretend like they are.
Dio isnẗ physically strong enough
@@Am-fp7pn jotaro fought many enemies so he developed various strategies and overall bIQ, has a stand very similar or the same to dio, their enemy being arrogant, and being the main character kinda make it hard to beat him in a stand battle
who wouldve guessed, main character beats villain of that part
thinking dio is mountain level is the biggest reach of the century
I honestly think Dio will get speed blitzed by Sukuna's slashes. Not to mention it hits the soul too, so regen is pointless.
Stands are souls, which means Dio gets a resistance buff due to all attacks also having to hit The World
@@mars7304
Dude stand users can still be hurt. Plus since they hit the soul its an instant counter to stands.
Why are you confusing vampire regeneration and rct lmao? The souls in jojo and the souls in jjk are not the same.
Sukuna wouldn’t even be able to send out a slash, DIO is so massively faster than him he would be perception blitzing Sukuna
“Ah yes, my Anti Time Stop Technique. I haven’t used this one since the Heian era.”
Dawg the glazing is on unmatched levels dont let this man powerscale again 🗣📢‼️‼️
battel with king crimson would be really interesting
Jeez y’all hyping up dio so much. Him and ZA world pounded on the road roller with the intention of crushing jotaro.
Sukuna was effortlessly cutting up buildings. I think we know who’s winning.
When jotaro and dio threw punches at each other the street was fine.
Meanwhile when sukkana and Mahoraga threw punches it caused a building to collapse.
Yeah like there is no feat in the anime that can convince me that Dio stands even a tiny chance against Sukuna
@@alc4528dio can effortlessly rip a man apart with or without his stand (the world is relative to star platinum who easily obliterated teeth with comparable durability to diamonds)
@ once again the road roller didn’t break🤷♂️
speed feats in jojo are absolut crazy stands like the world and star plat operate on light speed
My only question is.... is Dio's mountain level punches even gonna hurt Sakuna?
Cause even Dagon can generate and take Island level potency.
So even without healing... would the damage even stick?
Yeah, if we look at jogo's meteor, an attack sukuna said WOULD damage him if he took it head on, we see that it's around the size of a large chunk of shibuya, so an attack that could level a mountain could certainly damage sukuna, when you consider that DIO has timestop and is overall faster than sukuna, i think he has the advantage in this fight, but this is DIO we're talking about, so he could very easily get cocky and lose to a single domain expansion. But i do think that current sukuna in the manga has a much better chance and is a more even fight.
The thing with dagon’s island is that that its a hax of the verse not actual attack potency. By the same logic gojo would have infinite power because he makes infinite space and makes infinite knowledge with void. Moreover domains are a trump card and not a normal attack, so to say each of dagon’s punches would be island level is off putting
What island level attack? The no in jjk that can one shot an island like are u stupid!?
@@jeremiahbennett3004yeah but... we know that jogo is just stronger than dagon.
So him summoning a meteor doesnt have to be his total output. Its just the range... like if dagon is using his cursed energy to summon an island.... jogo would just scale higher.
Jogos meteor just gotta be stronger at that point
@@franksarria9693well... the thing is that gojos ability is compared to the infinite paradox... its not really an infinite space. He just takes a finite space and makes it longer. Slowing movement down to a crawl. Its why you can just manipulate space to beat it.
So hes not infinite anyway at least his cursed energy he isnt.
And sure... HIS techniques are haxes... but every other cursed user isnt. Its just attack potency for jogo, for sakuna, etc.
Like sure... it seems weird to scale them to their cursed techniques... but if we can use THE SUN stand for dio i think its only right for sukuna to get it as well.
Not even saying he wins... but im just saying... if we give grace for dio. Should prolly do it for sukuna
I like that you tried to give Sakuna a chance but dio very Low Dif
Yeah this guy has always been putting JoJo’s as a verse a little higher than it should be but this is insane. Even if DIO survives the first few seconds of the fight, if Sukuna pops a domain he’s done for.
Time stop can’t save him from a sure fire hit
jjk fans after realizing sukuna's domain is open: 🤯
look bro if you want to see how dio wins here's how: dio stops time and kills him
here's why sukuna can't do shit about it: dio's stand is lightspeed and dio's timestop is instant, dio's timestop has 0 drawbacks nor a cooldown that stops him from using it repeatedly (does this while talking to jotaro when he's in an alleyway there's a whole scene for it) dio is literally the frames dude but infinitely times better, distance doesn't even matter for shit anyways dio could travel a whole town within seconds with his stand jump
@@flappyflap2693dios time stop def hss a cooldown or else jotaro would hsve died long ago the cooldown is just short. Dio himself is far slower thsn sukuna and his stand has a pathetic 10 meter range. Domainis sn instsnt win for sukuns it would easily destroy dios body and dio wouldnt be able to move eithout his legs hed just take the slashes. Sukuna could kill dio eith a few cleaves
@@GeoX242 dio is literally shown spamming his timestop before his stand is revealed there's no cooldown and he only doesn't spam when attacking jotaro for plot convivence and 5 seconds enough for dio to rip off sukuna's head doesn't matter anyways dio has a lightspeed stand lol
@@GeoX242even without time stop dio is ftl he speed blitzes sukuna before he can react and can remove himself if he wants
@8%2F-wuw%2Cymuvu%60e%2Ccmm-cjalngl-UAjvNIB6F%60VTj0zfy%3AY3h%7B1u No it doesn't. He spams it all the time lmfao.
I think I see the 2nd half where either one activates their trump card going in DIO's favor, DIO's timestop can come out seemingly instantly whenever he wants it too, but also it's got the power that unlike a domain like, say, infinite void, where the sensory overload would stop DIO from activating it, Sukuna's Shrine domain is just a Domain that does damage, it doesn't really overload DIO's senses enough to prevent him from stopping time during the Domain and killing Sukuna right there
Wait doesn't Sukuna's cleave scale off of curse energy... That Dio doesn't have?
we need to assume he has it for this fight because if w don't then dio would not see anything else but sukkuna just standing there
Gotta universe equalize to let the fight be fair, or sukuna would be at a disadvantage not being able to see the world
Well not necessarily, because Sukuna’s Cleave/Dismantle works on characters without Cursed Energy, as it works on inanimate objects. And if we do equalize so that Sukuna can see The World, then DIO would also need to be able to see Dismantle/Cleave.
@@jschannel6319the no equalization, that shit is stupid. Dip one shots ,the no argument u can make for sukuna.
@@powerscallingfiend nah, we can make an argument that the ftl claims are very inconsistent with what we see either Jotaro or Dio do. I mean, can you understand what the hell would happen if a fist sized object was moving at the speed of light? It would destroy a city in a matter of nanoseconds, and we certainly haven't seen that happen. And honestly it's okay, it's JoJo, with whatever shit is happening here I can suspend disbelief pretty easily and understand that it's just hype talk. But JJK takes itself more seriously, and so if we were to have a powerscaling discussion we gotta eyeball what we see. And we see a subsonic (prolly invisible) spirit who can punch quite hard coupled with a guy with mild regenerative powers and good physical strength and a timestop which lets him land a lot of free hits though it's very range dependent for obvious reasons, and in the other corner we have fucking Sukuna, who landed much better shots I've even seen the World land, took some heavy hits from Mahoraga and basically brushed it off, and has an invisible slashes that chop up basically any inanimate object in his way, from humans to metal and concrete. Am I supposed to believe that Sukuna (worst case) won't be able to take some punisment (even tho Dio would probably make him see stars at the very least) and then chop Dio up into bits? Dio has no CE, and while he's more sturdy than a regular-ass human, he's def squishier than concrete. It ain't close, the universe power levels are vastly different
Great video :)
could he? yes. would he? no.
dio going for a head cut is extremely unlikely off rip. my guess is dio donuts or knifes sukuna with time stop, sukuna RCTs, and then sukuna inflicts a debilitating cleave on DIO, because as we know, a bisect, or a decapitation, is prob gonna means he aint living till the day. and would minimally give sukuna enough time to whip out domain expansion, and evaporate him.
However, if you bloodlust DIO, or plug a controller in his ass, then dio should win no diff at all.
The most interesting and game changing part of this is the information regarding DIO's ability to regenerate. He's still very much alive (while not kicking) after being cut in half with the perfect counter, hamon. Hell, his head was the only thing that remains and he was still alive!
It seems like, a sufficient amount of damage, leaves him catatonic. but its somewhere between, decapitation, and vertical bisecting. but regardless after either, he cant exactly move very well. I would posit we can probably guess DIO does not have conceptual regeneration. I.e. atomic level destruction will kill him. which sukuna can do. so after the debilitating strong dismantle, i think sukuna can just destroy DIO with malevolent shrine. and if its megumi sukuna, he could probably use mahoroga to adapt before dio can get a killing blow.
but if you disagree with all that, then you gotta give sukuna a time frame where if can part 3 style incapacitate DIO, he can win with sunlight. otherwise its just a mismatch i guess.@@hisayaren8324
But did you forget that DIO is able to survive as just a head? He can be cut in half, decapitated, burned. As long as his brain isn't torn to extremely tiny bits, he lives. Sukuna needs time to activate Malevolent Shrine. DIO's time stop is truely instant. Furthermore, DIO just needs to perception blitz Sukuna (which he can since he can just time stop and move to Sukuna safely) and use The World to pass through Sukuna and destroy his entire body. Stands cannot be harmed by Sukuna.
Ah yes, it’s the same type of stand as my cursed technique - Sukuna
This is the second video where I see Sukuna magically lose to characters who can’t one shot him without prior knowledge to his healing. We’ve seen Sukuna literally chop a high school girl to nothing but blood splatter and dio cannot heal a wound without having a blood source but somehow Sukuna still loses. Makes sense
Well if there's no toying around bullshit Dio timestops and blitzes sukuna at the speed of light
@@klol-ld8jrwhere’s the speed of light calc coming from? That’s a wild claim with no backing from what’s immediately apparent in the anime or manga so there needs to be serious reasoning for why that is and how other characters can react/how the planet isn’t destroyed. Unless it’s saying effectively light speed + due to time stop which would be fair
@@Rl55322 star platinum is the same stand as the world (literally canonically stated) and it's lightspeed in the data books, the show also shows this by the jotaro and his gang deflecting *literal* light beams from a stand that replicates the sun there's also waay more stuff to prove it's lightspeed as well
@@flappyflap2693dio himself is nowhere near the speed of light. First of all that light speed statement is likely taking into account his speed in time stop but even if we ignore thst and say the world is regularly faster thsn light, dio is still much slower than the world and the world has limited range, what stops sukuna from killing dio at distance?
@@GeoX242 star platinum is lightspeed, dio fights lightspeed stand with his own stand... r u stupid or somethin...
“Ah yes my anti DIO technique I haven’t used since the Heian era” - sukuna
Bro? How’s this even a debate, dio isn’t crushing sukunas brain (the world was barely able to break jotaros bones) + there’s the fact sukuna has a complete full health + energy regen by transforming into his heian era form, sukuna DESTROYS
the donut.
The world and star platinum are the same, star platinum broke dio's skull
Sukuna's brain is getting caved in by the world
@@Vin499dio’s durability is questionable, dude lost a leg to a shard of glass falling on it. Jojo characters are very much glass cannons with some of them having crazy broken abilities.
I think dio not breaking jotaro bone is because he is not serious
Dio broke Jotaro bone when he awakens, what the hell are you smoking at. Dio barely gets close to Jotaro after he flinches in Ts and uses long range attacks and other people to kill him, its the reason why it took so long for Dio to try and kill Jotaro while he was playing dead because he is so paranoid of him getting closer. And once Dio literally got fucking close he eviscerated Jotaro bones in a matter of kicks, thats how strong he is and not to mention the Donut and the fact he threw a fucking whole road roller with ease. So no Dio can easily crush Sukuna brain like a goddamn watermelon if he gets close.
"IT'S A ROADROLLER!" vs "IT'S A BOEING 747!"
Honestly Dio is just so ridiculously fast that as soon as he takes just one hit from cleave he’d probably just stop time and blitz him into dust. This is how any fight with him would go where he has a speed advantage and is being serious.
Bliz who breh?? He doesn't even have to ap to destroy a road roller at best he's building level
He will turn into dust once sukuna opens his domain
Sukuna made a slash that goes through space. strong enough to even bypass gojo's infinity and that feat alone is enough for him to win
Sukuna can't use domain expansion. Or well, he'll start it and DIO sees that and activates time stop. DIO can just fly extremely quickly to Sukuna and destroy every bit of Yuji's body. And we know he can, since The World is the same stand as Star Platinum. If Sukuna is even able to activate domain expansion: DIO instantly stops time as soon as he gets hit by it. Then proceeds to destroy Sukuna.
@@mtsfmmm5521 in order to destroy something u need power too,
That's like giving a 10 yo child a time stopping ability of 5 seconds and then putting him against Ironman
@@confused4069somewhat useless throwing a road roller wanting to crush someone with it but then breaking it after that
I like how people keep saying immeasurable amount when spoilers…yuta said 19 finger sukuna has at least twice as much curse energy as him
Sukuna can probably cut Dio in half with 1 slash I mean Dios leg got cut off with a random glass shard and sukunas slashes are invisible so Dio wouldnt even know its coming
sukuna wouldn't be able to see the world either, it all comes down to whether or not dio decides to go for the kill first or if he monologues
@@noahsylvester1754sukuna can perceive the soul and stands are a manifestation of ones soul so you can make an argument he can see the world and still it doesnt even matter the worlds range is 2m and sukuna has way better range to one shot dio
@@SernX982 range doesn't matter much when you have timestop, which dio has, and with joseph's blood he's more than capable of closing in within the 10 or so seconds he has
This dude just reminded me of this 🤣a weak ass shard of glass naw dio is getting fucking stomped.
@@noahsylvester1754 Range does matter, dio needs to be really close while sukuna can send slashes from across an entire city their range isnt comparable. And sukuna is a ranged fighter how is dio getting in close? he cant move at light speeds only the world can thats why I don't get the blitz one shot arugument.
Sukuna would just call up Toodles to get another Mousketool that will completely negate Dio’s plan to kill him 2 chapters later
Something else of note would be the difference in magic systems. Non-stand users can't see stands, so Sukuna would not be able to tell where Dio's abilities and attacks are coming from, giving Dio the advantage if he got up close. But Dio's time stop isn't a domain expansion, so it might not actually stop Sukuna's guaranteed cuts, only delay them from hitting Dio for a few seconds - and Sukuna's domain doesn't have any official time limit on how long he can maintain it, but it's certainly longer than Dio's time stop - so if Dio is caught in Sukuna's domain at longer range he's done for.
But doesn’t the seeing and slashing souls thing apply?
The strongest hater in history vs the strongest hater of today
Would gege allow Dio to win?
Well canonically they’ll become friends because they have motives for dominating the world.
Wait what? There isn’t a chance that anyone thinks that DIO could possibly beat Sukuna.
First of all, Sukuna has reversed curse technique which means if DIO doesn’t stop time then Sukuna will not be able to be damaged.
Secondly, as soon as he decides to use his Domain it’s over. DIO gets shredded. You seriously think that something that killed Mahoraga wouldn’t kill DIO? Aswell as Sukuna being strong physically and fast with fire abilities and cursed energy.
Dio Speedblitzes
Dio one shots. Stands have durability negation so it dosen't matter.
@@marlondalli2895 what does that even mean? 😂😂
@@marlondalli2895 listen… i love JoJo and DIO even more than JJK but seriously how does anyone think that the man that killed Gojo is getting killed by some gay vampire that almost died to a plain ass man with sunlight powers.
@@comatix6682 you haven't countered My point you're just insulting dio
The only weakness of dio is that he is dio
Gojo vs all the joestars
gappy and jhonny clap
Giorno with GER, Johnny with Act 4, Gappy with Go Beyond maybe even base SNW if you believe he could take infinity and Tequila Joseph claps both cheeks
Go beyond goes through infinity, Tusk act 4 is there in case he turns it off, and Requiem prevents him from attacking any of the joestars
@@HabitualThinkerit's not even that complicated. GER can shut off any action Gojo even takes from the start of the battle.
Doesnt work like that@@SuperDababy2
This reminds my of the time when someone in part 1 said that vampires could die in 3 ways. The sun, magic sunlight punches (hamon), and completely obliterating their brain.
Seems like DIO and Sukuna would have fun with each other
i think because of cursed energy reinforcement, dio would stop time and literally be unable to damage sukuna. then sukuna just uses dismantle and dio instantly dies. he doesn’t even need shrine.
if sukuna has mahoraga, he just puts the wheel on himself and dio is literally unable to win
the world hits at the speed of light and sukuna wont even be prepared for the attack cuz he wont see ıt comıng.
In stopped time people can't see dio if you don't remember.
the interesting thing with jojo scaling is that while stands do move at ftl speeds, most stand users reaction time does not scale to their stands and is well below even the speed of sound (there are plenty of examples of this in part 3 and up, where stand users like jotaro get injured by moving objects going slower than the speed of sound) as such while dio is fast enough to overwhelm many characters with speed he isn't necessarily immune to being also speed blitzed by characters who are slower than himself.