I’m very grateful for the shout brotha!! I’m also very glad i helped you get that thing going so well! What size jets are you running in that carb? I actually returned my mikuni (which was the same as yours that i was helping you dial in) i actually ordered a 19 mm genuine OKO carb from Taiwan; it’s a hell of a lot smoother on the low end than the mikuni was for me atleast, i returned the carb i had before because i thought it was a genuine mikuni but if you look on the box it actually says maikuni lol. I didn’t like how it was a knockoff so i sent it back while i could. Amazon took it no problem. the 19mm OKO carb i ordered came with a 95 main and i swapped the pilot from a 42 down to a 38, i didn’t plug the line for the power jet like i told you to do before and i ran the needle right in the middle and i am having a lot better of a time riding it. the carb i ordered is a pwk like yours but from what I’ve gathered it’s a lot easier to tune in and it’s a very known carburetor for ATV’s/dirt bikes. Anyway I have the mixture screw turned out about 1 full turn maybe 1-1/4 and it’s running a whole lot better for me. I did have to put a throttle restriction at about 3/4 throttle so i don’t have as much breakup and i believe that is because i am running a 50 mm piston with 69 mm valves and at full throttle it’s just not doing what it’s supposed to be doing but after riding it for over 50 miles and checking the plug over and over, i have confirmed my engine is not running too rich or too lean that way it’s just about perfect and totally runnable for now as i keep making tweaks over the winter i won’t have to worry about burning up my piston/valves from a lean condition or detonation. I’ll keep you updated but as it sits i have recorded it going 45 mph a bit ago. I can feel it though when i get the top end issue figured out it’s gonna be going even faster I’m going for 55 I’ve seen videos of other 50cc gy6’s with my 50mm bore and everything dialed in perfect cruising at 61mph so i know it’s possible! We’ll figure it out eventually bro. Like you said. Just gotta keep messing with them and talking to the community! I’m glad to help and I’m open to chat about these things anytime you want man💪
Absolutely dude🤘 I bet mine is the knock off too🤣 either way, It's better than stock. I'll keep the other carb you mentioned in mind! Maybe I'll buy one in the spring. It's getting cold now, so I'm going to have to start working on the other toys. But for real thank you for the info. You aren't helping just me! Everyone that sees this is going to be better off.
Your fuel problem up top might be because your fuel petcock (fuel pump) is too restrictive. I removed mine completely, and just plumbed the gas tank straight to the carb, and it got rid of the break up at the top end for me. I have a 139qmb 50cc 4t with the 21mm PWK flat slide carb. 35 idle jet (about 3-4 turns out), 102 main jet, 2nd richest on the needle clip. 7g sliders. Currently mine goes 38mph on a slight uphill, ~45mph on a flat with no wind. I think GPS verified 45mph is about the max you can hope for out of this platform.
On the 2nd Scooter: It MAY be slow due to the CVT setup to include the final gear ratio. Put the rear wheel in the air and see if it the engine performs better w/o Rider Weight. If it does, then check the CVT and gearing. If it does not, then the engine may have a compression/vacuum leak or worse. On the 3rd TaoTao: the fact that you had to covercarbstart it(I did this Friday nite), do a valve lash, check that the carb is getting fuel( pull the fuel in line from the carb and Crank it) clean the carb and ensure the innards are in and not backwards or missing. But BEFORE you do all that, check that your stator is putting out the correct power. Ensure that you are running a 8 Pole Stator with an Eight Pole Magneto. Test your CDI, it was blowing fuses so the electric system may have validation issues. Also, if the battery charger is not made to start while charging, this may trigger performance anxieties. It is POSSIBLE, that it was blowing fuses because the Amperage from the charger exceeded the Amperage the scoot pulls to start OR, GOTO the paragraph where the word "before" is all capitilized. Love your Channel! I was literally watching the video of the Gear Upgrade yous did before opening up the gearbox on my 139QMB Long case w/12" Rear wheel.(still not opened) May you do a vid on Gears? Maybe pull some stock gears from long and short cases, the difference between the big 8 and small 8 and 52 gears? And how to calculate final drive ratio for 50 -100cc 4T Scooters? Most of the vids that came up in my search skipped the stock setup and what is swappable or were about 172cc and up. Thanks for the upload and Trial & Error is a Real Theme in the Lives of millions of People with a 3rd or 6th Line in their Profile. Disclaimer: here in the 808 State, 60° is frakkn cold! We get 2 Seasons: Sunny & Rainy!
Thank you🤘 this is awesome. I can try to do some gearing vids. I will have to do some more research before I do! I have basically zero knowledge of it🤣 but I'm down to learn. It might be next spring before I do. Snowmobile season is coming tho and I'm ready for it!
ive had gy6 scooters for a while now with two kinds of big bore kits running standard carbs with different jets, from my experience it's most important to religiously change oil and keep it clean - 200 miles when you're putting in new rings/change bore/with a fresh engine, every 1.5k miles after that at the latest. check valve lash ever so often, that's easy to do and to adjust. replace the intake boot and the two o-rings there if it's getting old, make sure the spacer between head and intake isn't cracked. check vac line for proper fit on the intake boot and the fuel petcock.
I beat the hell out of my modified Jonway (because it was free and out of a junkyard) but I used to have a velocity mp50 that I would take apart to the bare chassis every saturday and deep clean, with a carb clean, valve check, trans check, and oil change. I got to where I could take that whole bike down, do a complete service, and have it back on the road in about 2 hours. Anytime I get an engine, no matter what the problem is, I do a full top end service, so if it doesnt run, and it has spark, it needs rings.
Wow. I have a Tao Tao pony. All I've done is air the tires properly and the repairs from when I caught a junkie trying to steal it from the hospital. Anyway, my Blue Bomber hits almost 40 mph. Keep in mind I weigh 230, and I always have about 10 lbs of chain, tools, groceries, etc. It looks like I got lucky.
This is two videos in a row that UA-cam has failed to notify me of. How can I possibly be your biggest fan if UA-cam refuses to tell me there are new videos out? You have one job UA-cam. Anyway, dude! You are getting a regular old scooter swap shop going and I am here for it! Glad to see you making content again!
What the heck!?!?! I will just start messaging you when I post, lol. I think I'll be putting the scooters in storage this week or next😔 it's getting too cold. But I have the mini jeep and the red go-kart in the garage now soo ill have to pivot. It sucks when it's cold and there isn't snow. I'm excited to hop back on a sled
@@throttle_therapy LOL please do? youtube doesn't seem to want to apparently. and i was just thinking last night and wondering if the jeep was gonna make a comeback. and the go-kart too? hell yeah! can't wait!
im glad people are starting to think scooters are cool lately. i have a Honda Dio 110 and its absolute fun to rip around the city and small backroads, hey even twisties. (its an absolute nightmare in freeway since it redlines at 70mph at 11000rpm) the thing is like a gokart but wayyy more fun. plus it kills everything on mpg ur TaoTao is nice man. it needs some work but it'll be all worth it when done. (*little tip: if you drill some holes on the clutch bell, just little ones on the part where the shoe makes contact with the bell. they will act as an escape route for leftover debris or clutch shavings so it doesnt pile up inside and cause slipage. since its a dry clutch after all. - or not do it, up to you. its just one of those things i saw the guys in thailand did to their scooters. do you know they drag race these things out there?)
Just subscribed. Really think you should adjust the valves on the scoot that won't start. Valves are to tight can't get enough compression..... considering the low miles pretty sure that's it. Valve lash is very important during the break in.
I have a question... I know every country gets different models, and names. But when I brought TNT Roma (10 inch wheel, 49cc 2 stroke scooter) a couple of weeks ago, it was simply to make the 15km trip to work a little quicker with the bull-manure traffic and parking situation. Turns out the 45kph top speed is dangerous when cars what to do 55-60kph in a 50kph zone, and all the cars want to push you off the road, and cut you off! But naturally I tested it out before the first trip to work. and then researched the restrictor. and being a car mechanic, I waited till the end of the work day, and ripped that stupid little spacer out as fast as I could... which not only made it capable of keeping up with traffic making it much safer, but meant the throttle didn't have to be pegged 100% of the time reducing the fuel consumption as well. now to the question... Does anyone in America know what the TNT Roma is? does anyone know which Yamaha 2 stroke engine it is a copy of? This thing needs more power, and there is no information I can find that would reduce the chances of spending huge amounts on parts, and literally twice that in shipping costs just to find out they are for the wrong engine and then there is the exchange rate, what costs you $100 in the USA, ends up costing $600 by the time it gets here. so ordering the wrong parts is not an option!
Check the valve lash. They might be too tight, if they hold the valves open itll be hard to start (requiring extra choke at the least) and it wont make power because it wont have compression (since itll be leaking out of the valves)
I got a new job! I plan on making more but I’ve been busy lately. Once the weather warms up I’ll put some more videos out! Thank you for watching my stuff. I appreciate it🤘
I have got a FB mondial Imola scooter and its not starting inhave spark fule but im waiting for a new battery to come, when i go to turn my scooter my display blinks on/off and they battery voltage goes down? I have done about 11,000 miles on it so far please help!
hey, i have a gy6 kymco agility that i used as a daily (i use my other scooter as replacement now) for some months and it stopped working. I replaced the spark plug, stator, cdi box and the coil about 1000km ago. My problem is that it gets no spark anymore. first it cut off whenever my blinker and brake lights turn on, continued to ride it for one day and then it lost all spark. You got any idea where to look for?. both my fuses are intact, and i already tried bypassing my ignition switch, but no luck... It sounds to me like a bad ground but what could cause this/where should i look now??
Try to look around the wire harness for shorts or cuts in a wire. If it started with brakes and the blinkers, I would start there and work your way back through the wiring. You will probably have to remove some body panels to get a good look. Sorry that you have to chase gremlins. You got this🤘
I’m very grateful for the shout brotha!! I’m also very glad i helped you get that thing going so well! What size jets are you running in that carb? I actually returned my mikuni (which was the same as yours that i was helping you dial in) i actually ordered a 19 mm genuine OKO carb from Taiwan; it’s a hell of a lot smoother on the low end than the mikuni was for me atleast, i returned the carb i had before because i thought it was a genuine mikuni but if you look on the box it actually says maikuni lol. I didn’t like how it was a knockoff so i sent it back while i could. Amazon took it no problem. the 19mm OKO carb i ordered came with a 95 main and i swapped the pilot from a 42 down to a 38, i didn’t plug the line for the power jet like i told you to do before and i ran the needle right in the middle and i am having a lot better of a time riding it. the carb i ordered is a pwk like yours but from what I’ve gathered it’s a lot easier to tune in and it’s a very known carburetor for ATV’s/dirt bikes. Anyway I have the mixture screw turned out about 1 full turn maybe 1-1/4 and it’s running a whole lot better for me. I did have to put a throttle restriction at about 3/4 throttle so i don’t have as much breakup and i believe that is because i am running a 50 mm piston with 69 mm valves and at full throttle it’s just not doing what it’s supposed to be doing but after riding it for over 50 miles and checking the plug over and over, i have confirmed my engine is not running too rich or too lean that way it’s just about perfect and totally runnable for now as i keep making tweaks over the winter i won’t have to worry about burning up my piston/valves from a lean condition or detonation. I’ll keep you updated but as it sits i have recorded it going 45 mph a bit ago. I can feel it though when i get the top end issue figured out it’s gonna be going even faster I’m going for 55 I’ve seen videos of other 50cc gy6’s with my 50mm bore and everything dialed in perfect cruising at 61mph so i know it’s possible! We’ll figure it out eventually bro. Like you said. Just gotta keep messing with them and talking to the community! I’m glad to help and I’m open to chat about these things anytime you want man💪
Absolutely dude🤘 I bet mine is the knock off too🤣 either way, It's better than stock. I'll keep the other carb you mentioned in mind! Maybe I'll buy one in the spring. It's getting cold now, so I'm going to have to start working on the other toys. But for real thank you for the info. You aren't helping just me! Everyone that sees this is going to be better off.
Your fuel problem up top might be because your fuel petcock (fuel pump) is too restrictive. I removed mine completely, and just plumbed the gas tank straight to the carb, and it got rid of the break up at the top end for me. I have a 139qmb 50cc 4t with the 21mm PWK flat slide carb. 35 idle jet (about 3-4 turns out), 102 main jet, 2nd richest on the needle clip. 7g sliders. Currently mine goes 38mph on a slight uphill, ~45mph on a flat with no wind. I think GPS verified 45mph is about the max you can hope for out of this platform.
On the 2nd Scooter:
It MAY be slow due to the CVT setup to include the final gear ratio.
Put the rear wheel in the air and see if it the engine performs better w/o Rider Weight. If it does, then check the CVT and gearing. If it does not, then the engine may have a compression/vacuum leak or worse.
On the 3rd TaoTao:
the fact that you had to covercarbstart it(I did this Friday nite), do a valve lash, check that the carb is getting fuel( pull the fuel in line from the carb and Crank it) clean the carb and ensure the innards are in and not backwards or missing. But BEFORE you do all that, check that your stator is putting out the correct power. Ensure that you are running a 8 Pole Stator with an Eight Pole Magneto. Test your CDI, it was blowing fuses so the electric system may have validation issues.
Also, if the battery charger is not made to start while charging, this may trigger performance anxieties. It is POSSIBLE, that it was blowing fuses because the Amperage from the charger exceeded the Amperage the scoot pulls to start OR,
GOTO the paragraph where the word "before" is all capitilized.
Love your Channel! I was literally watching the video of the Gear Upgrade yous did before opening up the gearbox on my 139QMB Long case w/12" Rear wheel.(still not opened)
May you do a vid on Gears? Maybe pull some stock gears from long and short cases, the difference between the big 8 and small 8 and 52 gears? And how to calculate final drive ratio for 50 -100cc 4T Scooters?
Most of the vids that came up in my search skipped the stock setup and what is swappable or were about 172cc and up.
Thanks for the upload and Trial & Error is a Real Theme in the Lives of millions of People with a 3rd or 6th Line in their Profile.
Disclaimer: here in the 808 State, 60° is frakkn cold! We get 2 Seasons: Sunny & Rainy!
Thank you🤘 this is awesome. I can try to do some gearing vids. I will have to do some more research before I do! I have basically zero knowledge of it🤣 but I'm down to learn. It might be next spring before I do. Snowmobile season is coming tho and I'm ready for it!
Aloha 🌴🌴🌴
Thanks for tuning in🤘 we appreciate each and every one of you
ive had gy6 scooters for a while now with two kinds of big bore kits running standard carbs with different jets, from my experience it's most important to religiously change oil and keep it clean - 200 miles when you're putting in new rings/change bore/with a fresh engine, every 1.5k miles after that at the latest. check valve lash ever so often, that's easy to do and to adjust.
replace the intake boot and the two o-rings there if it's getting old, make sure the spacer between head and intake isn't cracked. check vac line for proper fit on the intake boot and the fuel petcock.
I beat the hell out of my modified Jonway (because it was free and out of a junkyard) but I used to have a velocity mp50 that I would take apart to the bare chassis every saturday and deep clean, with a carb clean, valve check, trans check, and oil change. I got to where I could take that whole bike down, do a complete service, and have it back on the road in about 2 hours. Anytime I get an engine, no matter what the problem is, I do a full top end service, so if it doesnt run, and it has spark, it needs rings.
Man we need a proper gy6 build. Not chinese aftermarket parts but genuine performance parts and then compare that to the chinese one
Yes
Nice idea. Cant wait
Wow. I have a Tao Tao pony. All I've done is air the tires properly and the repairs from when I caught a junkie trying to steal it from the hospital. Anyway, my Blue Bomber hits almost 40 mph. Keep in mind I weigh 230, and I always have about 10 lbs of chain, tools, groceries, etc. It looks like I got lucky.
This is two videos in a row that UA-cam has failed to notify me of. How can I possibly be your biggest fan if UA-cam refuses to tell me there are new videos out? You have one job UA-cam.
Anyway, dude! You are getting a regular old scooter swap shop going and I am here for it! Glad to see you making content again!
What the heck!?!?! I will just start messaging you when I post, lol. I think I'll be putting the scooters in storage this week or next😔 it's getting too cold. But I have the mini jeep and the red go-kart in the garage now soo ill have to pivot. It sucks when it's cold and there isn't snow. I'm excited to hop back on a sled
@@throttle_therapy LOL please do? youtube doesn't seem to want to apparently. and i was just thinking last night and wondering if the jeep was gonna make a comeback. and the go-kart too? hell yeah! can't wait!
im glad people are starting to think scooters are cool lately. i have a Honda Dio 110 and its absolute fun to rip around the city and small backroads, hey even twisties. (its an absolute nightmare in freeway since it redlines at 70mph at 11000rpm) the thing is like a gokart but wayyy more fun. plus it kills everything on mpg
ur TaoTao is nice man. it needs some work but it'll be all worth it when done. (*little tip: if you drill some holes on the clutch bell, just little ones on the part where the shoe makes contact with the bell. they will act as an escape route for leftover debris or clutch shavings so it doesnt pile up inside and cause slipage. since its a dry clutch after all. - or not do it, up to you. its just one of those things i saw the guys in thailand did to their scooters. do you know they drag race these things out there?)
Thank you! I will keep that in mind. I have seen some of the drag racing videos and they are wild! It would be awesome to build one of those
Just subscribed. Really think you should adjust the valves on the scoot that won't start. Valves are to tight can't get enough compression..... considering the low miles pretty sure that's it. Valve lash is very important during the break in.
I believe the tao brand scooter are in km for odometer I checked mine as the tao tao pony it's km for odometer like 7504km is 4517miles
Thanks for the video, i really like your spark test method, just put it near the case and fire it up and you should see the sparks? How's that work?
I have a question... I know every country gets different models, and names. But when I brought TNT Roma (10 inch wheel, 49cc 2 stroke scooter) a couple of weeks ago, it was simply to make the 15km trip to work a little quicker with the bull-manure traffic and parking situation. Turns out the 45kph top speed is dangerous when cars what to do 55-60kph in a 50kph zone, and all the cars want to push you off the road, and cut you off! But naturally I tested it out before the first trip to work. and then researched the restrictor. and being a car mechanic, I waited till the end of the work day, and ripped that stupid little spacer out as fast as I could... which not only made it capable of keeping up with traffic making it much safer, but meant the throttle didn't have to be pegged 100% of the time reducing the fuel consumption as well.
now to the question... Does anyone in America know what the TNT Roma is? does anyone know which Yamaha 2 stroke engine it is a copy of? This thing needs more power, and there is no information I can find that would reduce the chances of spending huge amounts on parts, and literally twice that in shipping costs just to find out they are for the wrong engine and then there is the exchange rate, what costs you $100 in the USA, ends up costing $600 by the time it gets here. so ordering the wrong parts is not an option!
Check the valve lash. They might be too tight, if they hold the valves open itll be hard to start (requiring extra choke at the least) and it wont make power because it wont have compression (since itll be leaking out of the valves)
What happened man… hope u are ok an everything is alright miss the scooter videos man!
I got a new job! I plan on making more but I’ve been busy lately. Once the weather warms up I’ll put some more videos out! Thank you for watching my stuff. I appreciate it🤘
If these scooters were all equal in performance, what one would you choose? The Magic, the Thunder, or the Pony?
Have you ever done a video or review on a Gator 50cc scooter ? And possibly a better engine for it to go a little faster
I hope you have heating in your garage it is starting to get cold and have to break out the jackets
🤣 yeah... working on that minor detail soon, hopefully.
I bought a carburetor for my TaoTao from Amazon and mine is now almost 5 mph faster.
So what do i do with the line that was running into my airbox before when i change from stock to "performance carb with cone filter"?
Ok I subs. Now I have belt,carb,problems from my 50
I have got a FB mondial Imola scooter and its not starting inhave spark fule but im waiting for a new battery to come, when i go to turn my scooter my display blinks on/off and they battery voltage goes down? I have done about 11,000 miles on it so far please help!
hey, i have a gy6 kymco agility that i used as a daily (i use my other scooter as replacement now) for some months and it stopped working. I replaced the spark plug, stator, cdi box and the coil about 1000km ago. My problem is that it gets no spark anymore. first it cut off whenever my blinker and brake lights turn on, continued to ride it for one day and then it lost all spark. You got any idea where to look for?. both my fuses are intact, and i already tried bypassing my ignition switch, but no luck... It sounds to me like a bad ground but what could cause this/where should i look now??
Try to look around the wire harness for shorts or cuts in a wire. If it started with brakes and the blinkers, I would start there and work your way back through the wiring. You will probably have to remove some body panels to get a good look. Sorry that you have to chase gremlins. You got this🤘
@@throttle_therapy Alright ill try my best, thanks for the quick reply!
I have a Denali scooter 50cc from 2022 what kind of LED light does this have
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does the gy6 150cc intake fit on the gy6 50cc?
Im having the same problem with mine
Dude, you look like you could be related to Rob Scallon.
where u at dawg
bro make more videos
I’ve got something to make a video for this weekend. I will put something out within the next week.
150cc engine swap!!!
That’s honestly the best option
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