SSL BIG SIX 1 year review update // IS IT STILL WORTH IT?
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- This is the SSL BIG SIX 1 year review update. These are my thoughts on it whether they are good or not so favorable. The SSL BIG SIX is a very unique machine that deserves this update for sure. Let mw know what you think about this review in the comments below. I think the SSL BIG SIX is still a great machine but that's just my thoughts. I hope you guys and gals enjoy.
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0:00 Intro
0:33 1 Year Later
1:13 Is it still worth it
1:43 Connectivity
3:46 Functionality
5:56 Sound Quality
7:15 Durability
8:30 Who is it for
9:52 The Cons
14:00 Conclusion
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So what are your thoughts on this do you still think it's worth it let me know in the comments below
You can actually use the original six as a bus output for bus b you can do that and Cascade them
@Ross Boyd you may also sell your Six and get 8-ch analog mic preamp to fill the bix six line channels 5-12
Just hit up santa 4 that holiday $3K I need ... I'm joining the party soon!!
Yes, certainly a great addition to a hybrid setup. I just wish they actually made a Big12 or Big16 or a means of expanding the I/O via ADAT etc. But this Big 6 plus an UF8, an UC1, a Flock Patch and a some choice modules/rack units certainly makes for a very flexible hybrid setup! Having the flexibility to expand it would be the i ing on the cake. There’s still a huge gap between this and the XL desk. I’m sure there would be plenty takers for a 2x Big Six with a ‘proper’ G-comp (same as the 500 version in spec), ADAT expansion and space for a 500 series module or four to boot. AN SSL XL lite with built in interface! Would gladly pay 5k for that puppy! (Even more if it could double up as an UF8 expander and had recall!)
Yes!!! I haven’t even watched it and i’m psyched. Thanks for dropping on a Friday afternoon to juice the weekend a little, Tone!
All good man I hope you enjoy bro thank you
Just stumbled upon this video and glad I did. In the market for a mixer and heard a lot about the Big Six. Great review! Appreciate the honesty and the fact of how you feel about it a year later. Keep up the great work!
Thank you
Thank you for the year next revive, it was help full to hear.
I'm glad you enjoyed it
Great video. I been looking at mixers and getting more hardware. Great breakdown of your experience. I love the editing of the video as well.
Thank you
Ok TouchTone ... I've been drooling over this unit for several months now, while being patient and waiting on the 1+ year reviews. Thx bro for the transparency, as I'm down that "analog" hole looking for a hybrid unit as such to capture my beloved saxophones. 4 MONEY channels truly excite me along with the routing & summing w/external gear in my arsenal. Still can't afford the 16 Ch Origin that dropped a few days ago, so I have to dream a little longer, while producing on this unit that you have endorsed! Keep the trails blazing ...
Yeah man I think you would like this a lot it's very powerful and very easy to use and it has a great sound
So I just came from a Midas Venice F24 and just recently the damn PSU died on me. I tried to to look for a replacement part for it but everywhere I looked it was out of stock. And because of your reviews from a year ago that I watched, I decided to go with the Big Six as well. I’ll be getting it in a couple of days and I can’t wait to test it out in studio. Keep up the great work on your channel and best of luck to you!
Thank you so much man I appreciate that and congratulations on that
Good video bro. You hit it on the nail with that one. I had the retrofit that I had to put in. But the one thing I noticed was how fast they responded to my request. It was 2 weeks for everything. It should be though for 3000. Yes it sounds amazing.
I heard the process was fairly quick and I'm glad to hear that it still sounding good man
great video - lots of useful information and experiences and love the jokes 🙂
Thank you
Super informative video…thanks
Np anytime
good stuff, great vibe!
Thank you
I've been waiting to watch this alllllll day!!!
I hope you enjoy my man
“It could be crack”😂😂😂😂 yooo man I almost died. Not supposed to be laughing like this 😂 man that was funny. Such a dope vid and set up as always fam! Always great to see you! Definitely miss seeing your vids
🤣🤣 thank you my guy
Thanks for your informitive video. I have been using the big six for a year or so too. I agree on all points. Luckely I never had any noise problems. I also miss the inserts on the stereo channels but have analog hardware patched in, so there is a way around it, but it means using a different ad/da converter (ferrofish, I think its not available in the US). The main plus for me is the sound, I produce music using orchestra and real strings and its sounds absolutely amazing with this kind of input. My biggest con is the price, I paid 2859 € and half a year later it dropped to 2500 €, that was a bit of a disappointment, whilst all the other gear, eg. mics from Neumann and others a getting more and more expansive. Next time I will not buy the first batch of a new piece... anyway I love the big six, in winter it also nicely heats up the room... all the best and keep producing. toni
Glad you like the video man
Awesome Dog. You were killing me in this one. 🤣
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Your humor is golden btw hahaha “the era of TWEAKIN’”
Thanks man 🤣
great video dude. Thanks for sharing. All the best
Thank you very much man I appreciate you
From my standpoint, the real design flaw with Big Six is that it has no ADAT I/O. So it cannot be used in any system as an analog front end / expander.
ADAT I/O that mirrored the USB Interface routing would make Big Six ideal as an ADAT expander for two Apollo rack units and this would be really beneficial.
I can see that point
Having been dragged up on SSL Consoles, in the 80s/90s, there are just too many faults with some of their current hardware....Big Six and Fusion have very strange issues....I simply wouldn't trust them at the moment, because of their lack of transparency, sad but true....Great videos man, love all of them....
I said man I feel like that in a lot of aspects myself
Thanks brother for the the follow up, I appreciate it!
I have to say I got mine in August, I have waited for the waves to calm down regarding the noise issue and the (even bigger) noise in the online world. Though I understand that SSL didn’t do a great job and I feel for those who ran into that issue.
Anyway, I have never experienced any issues at all (thanks god) and I can say it sounds analog. It has its own flavor, it’s really something unique. I mean, it’s not that other interfaces are bad. But typically you get that clean high resolution converter sound in todays music.
The BIG SIX has got that great analog foundation, a fat bass, great middle range and smooth top end. It’s a clean sound of course, but a little different to interfaces of RME, Lynx or Focusrite (RED line), to which I would compare it.
Great converters, that got that nice analog feel…and I love the hands on approach, the BIG SIX is very easy to use. The EQ sections are fantastic, the Compressor is solid (usually I don’t apply too much compression to my tracks) and for me it’s ok.
Summing and Stereo Imaging are the other two big points the SSL makes.
Of course, there are cons (less analog I inserts)…But the positives are way bigger (and you can get rid of a lot of cables 😊).
Cheers
Hey man I love this bro I think you hit everything on the nail here thanks for this comment it's great
@@TouchToneDSG Thank you 🙏!
I dont like many people , but I like you brotha , u a good man , thank you for the honesty and for taking out the time to make this awesome video , from one sound lover to another ... appreciate you my man
Man I just want to say that absolutely means a lot I really mean that thank you
Hey dude, I think you are a great communicator, keep growing your channel! I will get a SSL bc of you.
Hey thank you man I'm glad I could help I hope you enjoy it
So I picked up a Big Six with the sale SSL just had. Your videos solidified my choice. I was initially hesitant against having an analog mixer with integrated converters, but it's been really solid. And you're right about wanting to get more hardware.
😅😅 Hey man glad I can help with that gearless bro 🤣🤣
@@TouchToneDSG I'm pretty sure you haven't seen this - MixingTable makes very nice wood side panels with a padded strip for the Big Six. Do a search for "mixingtable big six lux" and that should bring you to it.
Subscribed! I really liked your video and review. By the way, your old set up looks pretty similar to mine. I got the SSL Six though, which I enjoy using.
Hey man I really appreciate it thank you so much
Love the channel. Watched your videos on the Big Six before purchasing. Unfortunately, mine had USB stabilty issues (Got a lemon - it happens on all products). Returned mine and got a used Six. Running it through my patchbay into two Audio Interfaces (like options). Tons of headroom and sounds amazing!!! The Big Six while expensive is actually a great deal. You get SSL 3 band EQ, G Comp, and most importantly a 16 in/out Audio Interface. My wish list would be cooling fans, Inserts on all channels, 4 band EQ, Master EQ, Motorized faders, Comp on all channels, two more Ext stereo inputs, Not made in China, and it would be absolute perfection. Would pay double or possibly triple for a device with guaranteed 10+ yr driver support (RME). Still an outstanding mixer and a heck of a deal as is!!
Yeah man I totally agree with you I hate to hear that that happened to you but like you said man happens with the best of them
This was a great video!!
Thank you
Sick video. Stopped buying gear cause wife said. Lol. Priceless. I relate lol
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Ditto. Loving mine, too. Luckily no issues with the noise you mentioned.
That's a blessing
Just subbed showing support! Dig the review
Hey good looking out my guy I appreciate you thank you I'm glad you enjoyed it
Nice appraisal of the Big Six man, much appreciated
Thank you
This review only is kinda convincing me to buy one! Already said it, but SSL owes you some sells.
One thing I still don’t get is how and why other brands (Audient or Behringer, to name a few) don’t try to enter the market with alternatives to the BigSIX. It may be a niche, but Cranborne Audio already opened the door, SSL kicked the door…who’s gonna bust the walls next?
Anyways.
Thanks for the amazing content. Can’t wait for more review. You da real MVP!
Hey man I really do appreciate that a lot and I totally agree with you I feel like more companies should definitely get in the arena
The BigSix is so wonderful (a friend of mine uses it, I use Rupert Neve 5059s and a 5060). It’s a top-of-class mixing solution when it comes to flexibility and sound!
I’ve also found the same with my RND mixers. Alone they sound good, but when you start adding in other kit *that* is where they really start coming alive!
Yes sir getting the most of them
Yes RND is great! I am using the 5025, it doesn't get any better.
Just wanted to add, I'm a big six user, I had the noise issue and got the retrofit kit. It was easy to install, SSL sent it out very quickly , and it completely solved the issue. As far as I understand, the problem was related to the power supply (which is external, and is an aftermarket switching power supply - not made by SSL). The modification adds increased filtering at the power input. For me, this was just a minor inconvenience and did not tarnish my perception of the product or SSL. Just my 2 cents! Great video.
All good
I have the regular SiX and it has opened my world up. My music sounds fucking amazing now with my hybrid workflow.
@Ross Boyd I run a tascam model 16 into the SiX into my interface then route all the ins and outs from the interface into and out of a patchbay so I can basically assign any digital track to faders on the model 16 or Six. It’s basically a limitless setup at this point. All connected to my outboard gear too with the patchbay. And of course, I run my master channel back through the SiX for my final mix down before mastering. Sounds BIG AF and CLEAR as day. 🍻
Yeah that's a work tank as well
Great video. I have been debating between the big 6 and the Tascsm 12.
I like the big six
@@TouchToneDSG Could you explain why? I'm a newbie trying to compare both
No comparison ❤Big Six
Couldn’t agree more about the ‘it sounds better the longer/warmer it gets’ - but I could be just having the placebo effect as well 😂ps: yea I’m hanging for the Big12 as well 😉
Heck yeah man if they come out with a big 12 that's going to be crazy
Start saving NOW! 😂 Jeezus only knows what it would cost…
@@jazzjames you probably get away with you left kidney...
It’s the headroom that makes this thing a rockstar
Agreed
I love mine. B6 with morgami cables has done me justice
Quality
Thank you for sharing your experience on the console. I would like to know how many track count can it handle at 24/192 and does it do any processing?
As far as the track counts it can handle 12 at 96khz going pure analog and then coming back in
I use the SSL Six to enhance my mono signal when I need a huge sound in the intro of a song unfortunately I can't do anything with any stereo signals yet other than summing but will probably implement 500 series modules in the future for stereo expansion
I understand that right there
I don’t get why they didn’t include an ADAT port or 2 to add channels considering the lack of preamps.
I don't know man I would suspect to keep costs down
Yeah…but I wouldn’t imagine it wouldn’t be all that expensive to add…the usefulness of the product for the desired price range would improve greatly. In fact, it would be the industry leader at this price point.
I play and write modern jazz and record live. As it is I’m better off keeping my Audient ID44 with 2 ASP 800s to make 20 channels of solid conversion at this point. I would love to own one of these but I need channels.
Heres the exact reason i passed on it myself
@@jazzjamessame reason I didn't get it.
Have you found a similar interface with ADAT?
@@bvrbvs it depends on what you mean by similar…my Audient interface has 4 Channels and the ability to add 12 more. If your interface is only offering this little for the price, then actually provide innovation in a mixer format?
Thank you for this. A question, tho' : Did you encounter issues with the latest update of the MPC firmware with the B6 ?
I did not 🤔
@@TouchToneDSG thank you! So now I'm 200% excited bout that SSL... Must be here next week. Too bad no softwares, tho' I'd have hope for some plugins or stuff, but it seems there is not even a softwre mixer, just an asio manager. But still, it offers so much that I'm very impatient now :) Good work on the channel too :)
@@Audiorial All good man
Hey Tone, im a 6 and a Patch owner, like you. Would you do a video on your routing in the Patch and in the DAW? There are so many variations we could use … very curious to know what kind of routing schematics you’ve settled on. Thank you, man!
I could do that for sure
So if you'd like to turn the stereo cues into sends and returns, or more buses shall we say, I've been looking for a way to combine the Bus 2 and the stereo cues to return into the SUM INPUT TO MAIN inputs and found the best for quality and saving money option would probably be a HRK SM2558 ACTIVE STEREO SUMMING MIXER.
This will give the little short falls the mixer has back into itself... basically you need a 6 channel mixer of some kind that's not going to break the bank or lower the audio quality
Summing on here is just magic
Happened to me to man! Wifey getting upset with all the gear I've bought
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Sounds better than day one... I whole totally agree. I don't like fluff or making up stuff but I was saying the same thing last week. Sounds awesome if figured I was just getting a little better with my mixes. Nah I think it does sounds better...LOL.
Hey could be both that wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility because with those converters you can hear more
Yesir!!! The best videos!. Very informative, It’s crazy about that piece and the noise. Wow! 🙌🙌
Hey thanks my guy I try I appreciate you
Lovely
Thanks G
Nice review! So just to confirm, it still won't work as a USB interface for an MPC in standalone mode?
And standalone mode not USB because you need a computer so you would have to take it to one of the back inputs
I have a ssl 2+ interface. If I get a Big Six to the game would be possible to use the 2+ as an extra mic pre amp? In case of drum recs for example? If the anwser is yes, how could I do that? Thanks man, great videos!! Hug from Brazil
Hey man Glad that see you from Brazil you should DM me on Instagram
at what buffer do you set your computer/DAW? how many software instruments can you run before it starts to buckle?
I have my buffer set at 256 and I can get up to about 30 before it starts to trip
i would bet the noise issue is caused by your studio power/grounding issues. its an easy one to over look and unfortuneatly since many of us work at hiome were kind of stuck but has anyone with the noise problem tried a high quality power conditioner. not a very exciting piece to buy but it could make the difference. thanks for the update on the big 6 l;ots of good info
Anytime man
The only reason I haven't jumped on the Big6 yet is because it lacks any expandability. Even the Digi001 had ADAT optical, adding 8 channels of I/O. Adding another 8 channels of input would be huge. Creating a virtual interface in MacOS creates too much latency for live recording. And that's really the only option SSL left us. For a live band with drums, 16 channels in my minimum.
Yeah it doesn't work for every workflow honestly I've only experienced latency in pro tools nothing else though
You know what I want to see SSL bringing out?
Okay, get this, a SSL BIGGER lol.
SSL have a Dante PCIE card, so a bigger brother of the big, 16 channels, two stereo buses and maybe two mono buses, all mono channels, with inserts on all of them and the connection to the computer? Dante.!
That would absolutely rule the small studios world!!!
Or “BiG SiXtEEn” lol
That would be dope
have you tried moving it or plugging into a different circuit in your house?
i know guitar amps are sensitive to that sort of thing and can pick up noise
Yeah I found out what the issue was thank you
bruh how are you connecting the TC Electronics Clarity to the Big Six? I want to be able to meter audio coming from my daw as well as streaming services...from what I see, Clarity is digital only so I'm confused so I haven't bought it yet. But yea the BiGSix is a monster. Changed the way I mix, way faster turnaround now. I use the g-comp on every mix, you have other hardware alternatives though so can see you not doing so...I have to look into that parallel compression configuration you're talking about.
So I use the TC electronic clarity as a plug-in inside of my daw and just put it on the mix bus at the very end so I can get a true monitoring and yeah bro that parallel compression is legit
The big 12 would be really cool. They just released the Origin 16, but it costs 40k damn
Yeah 40K is kind of ridiculous
Im using the OG SIX, because I dont want the converters on the Big Six, but every single session I wish I had more channels with eq and more control over inserts.
That part
Why do you think the converters are bad? Or is it because you already have great converters to use?
I have the OG six also and use it with the Motu Ultralite MK5 I like kr those converters a lot but if the bigsix has converters as good or better than the Motu I’m keen on getting the Bigsix.
Do like i did and pair it with Ssl 2+ .. but really they should've done like an Apollo rack mount type
Analog youre going to get line hiss and noise maybe add a noise gate to the setup thats the trade off
Yep the analog world has its cost
Great video. Informative and entertaining as usual. You do great work. Love sound gawd 👌. Keep it up!
Thank you so much I appreciate that
I'm thinking about buying the Big Six. Really wondering if that noise thing is still happening with new units.
I heard that they did fix it
@@TouchToneDSG Nice. You still digging yours?
You paid 3 grand, fixed their problem for free, and received no appreciation from them. DAMN. I swear that I was researching this board to purchase and that killed my purchase. OHHH, this video is going to cost them my "lil" small package. I've been running a studio since 1991 and what you said is a red flag. I was looking for a small interface to use while watching tv in the living room with a fantom and almost bought the SSL2+ and got spooked from another video about them. I got an Audient ID14mk2 instead and I couldn't be happier. Now I'm skipping them on this mixer and revisiting the Presonus. Thanks for you info!
Anytime man All in all it's a great machine but that just rub me the wrong way I feel like these companies just don't care about us anymore at least they don't I've talked to a lot of companies flock audio is one of the best out there really down to earth and they care about people I don't get that from SSL
You know you can use the big six as a class compliant audio interface for the MPC and FORCE line?… might be funky for making some beats
Most definitely
You helped me decide NOT to buy a big six. As soon as you mentioned NOISE and explained how they handled it, nope, not even gonna put myself in a position to have that problem, especially considering the price. I've read reviews about SSL gear in a few places, alot of people with many years of experience seem to think SSL sold out and sells cheap Chinese made products. There's a review about the Fusion on Sweetwater that sealed the deal on me not getting one of those. I'll stick with my Mackie 1604 and outboard gear into my interface.
Hey man glad I could help I totally get where you're coming from I did another video recently of why I left my big six and it upset a lot of people but I just had to be honest the SSL brand has definitely taken a hit as of late I think they're trying to become more consumer friendly instead of just pro audio but I'm good with my other pieces
if you can find an xdesk thats the juan, although its more bare bones its the old SSL quality
This is very true
Hi, I have two SSL Six and my question is, does it make sense upgrade to a big Six, obviously summing is easier!?
If that's what you needs call for
Curious are you still using Universal Audio Plug ins?
Not really to be quite honest with you I use more hardware than anything now if I use plugins it's going to be plug in alliance first before anything
I have a question on Big 6 and UF8. Do I really need to buy both of them, or Big 6 is enough for home studio?
B6 is definitely enough
For something to sound “better” after time is a big statement to how good it is.
We all get stuff and go “wow” by it, then after a bit that thing is just normal and not so “wow”… so for it to have now sounded better to you, it’s now the bit that’s finally sold me on it.
That value for money is unreal and from such a expensive premium company!!!
Conversation being too notch.
I was a bit ‘Meh about the lay out.
My issue is that I’d definitely use different preamps to the ones on it, but would be great for extra preamps when recoding and band, but the only four mono channels have the preamps, so it’s those or other preamps not mixing to two, that’s been the only thing causing a gripe… I don’t want to have four preamps that’ll never get used.
Although, really they will serve at times, they are great for cab milking and for certain other applications.
I would have preferred if they all were mono channels and then have two buses before the master bus… that would give me to idea mixing layout… but, considering to have that at least would mean a MCM 20.4, which already costs more and doesn’t have half of the stuff I’d then have to add to it, £10,000 when I’m done… the limits of this seems a bit childish to worry about
Yeah man those are some great points really good points I can see that
Hey TouchTone. I had to come back and watch this video and I wanted to run something buy you for your opinion. On one of your videos and I had mention I had $10K to upgrade studio so here is the goal. I want to upgrade mix bus and sound. So I am thinking from my research adding the following; SSL Fusion, SSL2 Buss, this would be to glue mix and to start building a mastering chain so adding Dangerous Music compressor, also adding saturation not sure if plugin (any suggestions on hardware?) I also considering adding to my 500series Elysia Elixer for mastering, then the $10K is gone.... however I need a new EQ so looking at Rupert Neve Newton for tracking (my guitar/bass/synths but can use on multiple items), I eventually would like a summing mixer like the Burl Audio B32 or the Rupert Never 5057 Orbit or the Dangerous D-Box(any suggestions?), And for Master processing eventually add would like to eventually add the Rupert neve Portico II Master Buss processor but that will be later in the year. I am really trying to step up my sound, I got a lot better at production over the last few years and now I want to make that push.
Man you got a lot to work with DM me on Instagram
I'm still trying to figure out how you can track 8-10-12 tracks at once over USB with no latency issues. Is it really possible? At least sub 3ms?
Yeah I do it all the time it just depends on what source your monitoring from
Wow only 4 inserts on the big six..I have a SSLxdesk which has 8 inserts and that unit came out 15 or more years ago…I’ll have to live with my xdesk cause I am too old to be upgrading. My future hardware will be a few preamps and compressors. I thought about the SSL matrix but I would have to get that at a severely discounted price like 50-60% off the retail and I think ssl has discontinued that unit anyhow.
hahhaha #facts... started with Big Six... added a Fusion on the Big Six main Insert, then a Drawmer DS201 Gate on the Fusion Insert and now looking for a dual stereo compressor por the M/S Fusion insert. My wife is telling me to sell my car if I want to keep buying things for the studio...
😂😂😂🤣 I can most definitely relate
I can’t find a photo clear enough to definitely see a “mono” button on the stereo channels… is there a mono button?
That’ll make a big difference in this being a full band tracking device.
Yes it is it's got a couple of them on the individual channels themselves and also in the master section
Ah okay, it might be fine… for mixing stereo cues become inserts.
Might get this as the mixer/interface.
The value for money is incredible with this.
The quality of the converters and in and outs is about all you get in the same price bracket but this has a console attached to it.
I’d probably get a RME HDSPe AIO Pro so I can get low latency for recording vocals with plugins on tracking and for AES for mastering converters… but this’ll be the meat of the studio.
It’s insane good sound and insanely good value… I’d be stupid not to invest in it.
You can never go wrong with RME
Why can't they give us eight mic pres on these boards? My old as dirt Tascam M-208 in many ways has more features than these new interface/consoles. Give us 8 pres with compression, inserts on each channel, a couple sends, good converters, and a nice looking meter bridge.
Agreed
I have many plugins. If I buy only ssl big six and ssl fusion, can I get good sound for mixing and mastering?
In my opinion the more tools the better so if you can mix it with plugins absolutely that's a win-win
@@TouchToneDSG Thank you for your reply
what happened to you to your uf8 midi controller
I still have it it is in my side card next to my desk it works out better that way
I am a big fan of this vid and I use a lot of SSL gear. I have to say it this way. If SSL just sent out the fix to everyone, my guess everyone would have given them kudos that they took care of the issue with a free part and a solution. . I've been there . It's sometimes the way with analogue gear. Because they offered an additional 50% off software people took it as being cheap. They should not have brought this up.They would have been better off just sending the part out. It would have shown them backing up their products. The fact that you didn't have noise and it didn't cause you any grief, well....just sayin. All good.
Agreed
Do you have a video that shows your gear and workflow, a lot of people will not understand the connections you have? I have subscribed to you, so when you can do a walk through. I am thinking of buying the 500-series, so maybe there is no point in that
You should hit me up on Instagram
I don’t know bro, I like your videos, but 3 k for some faders with eq? The RME is better in converters, clocking, pre amps etc. get a patch bay or adat and connect 32 pristine channels. IMO
I appreciate it I love it I personally don't regret it at all it sounds great it's fantastic what more can you ask for. I also get what you're saying I guess it just comes down to how satisfied are you with your workflow
My only con is the interface driver. We'll at least on PC. It crashes alot.
You know I've only had that happened to me twice early on and it's really never happened since how often does that happen to you
HI THERE .. I DIDNT SEE THE UF 8 ON YOUR DESK..HOW COME..?
Have a sidecar that is arm level by my chair and it is in there I'll do a full studio tour soon
Big 12 for the win, digital expansion cards, routing matrix, what would you like to see?
That part
@@TouchToneDSG SSL dropped the origin 16 at AES......it is beautiful
Man I seen that I would love to get my hands on one of those
The con is a deal breaker for me. There's plenty of competition out there for interfaces
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About SSL's increasing corporatization: large corporations are well aware of the fact that their customers are willing to tolerate some shit in the long run, even if they get really upset in th short term, and they have plenty of data on their side to justify it, and they prioritize from that data. I wouldn't blame SSL so much as their parent company Audiotonix, who is large enough to be willing to conduct business that way.
At the end of the day, it doesn't sound like you're selling your SSL mixer, you're likely to buy more SSL gear in the future... so their approach has proven itself. Smaller companies - i.e. the formerly independently owned SSL - can't afford to do that, with their relatively small output and inability to reduce costs through scaling. To get the experience you wanted to have with the noise issue, you would have probably paid double what you paid for your Big SiX.
That's a nice outlook
What's that desk?
The Buso Audio Desk
@@TouchToneDSG appreciate it!
great job with your studio! you are definitely correct. it is a huge miss on SSL's part to not include analog inserts on the stereo channels. they could easily put the jacks where it says Big SIX in giant letters, so "no place to put the connections" is not a valid excuse. one of SSL's best products is the 500 series stereo bus compressor. four stereo channels... that's an opportunity to sell four stereo buss compressors to a studio.
Yeah that would have been killer
All fixable if you have a 500 series and flock patch I guess. 😂
Let me try explain something. SSL mixers used to cost hundreds of thousands. They still do cost tens of thousands, well, hundreds too, depending of the setup. The fact that they wanted to appeal to the more scaled down studios with product like this - is actually luck for the user. Also, 50% of your next hardware purchase - what if you want to buy, say, Duality, should they give you 50% discount?:) You know, for those huge analogue systems, SSL engineers would come over, install the console, and you wouldn't even touch anything in - because a capacitor can bust out, and you wouldn't know which one and where. But you cant expect the same treatment as the customer paying half a mil for a product. I bought a synth of similar price actually, more than what Big Six costs, and and a small display screen got bad - so they sent me a new screen ( I am in the UK, and this was boutique USA manufacturer). I'd never give them headache over that. Should 've they sent me smt? They dont have software, or small products to send as compensation. Same with SSL, the only thing they could ve done better is either give you a free 2+ or give you plugins for free.
Hey I see where you're coming from but I still stand on what I say and maybe not 50% off of duality but something reasonable
@@TouchToneDSG That's the problem, I really don't know what else do they have to offer that is commercially viable. maybe another audio interface, an eq strip, you have all that - software is worth more than ssl2. You see the conundrum. I have no affiliation with SSL don't get me wrong pls, it is your right as a customer to get the non faulty unit. Problem is, for them ,this is not Flagship product, this is like budget thingy lol. I've worked a lot with E series, bit less with G, some with Duality. I know SSL well and tbh, I am super happy they decided to have this format.
Yeah I can see that as well. Maybe like the fusion or the bus plus or some of their 500 gear something maybe like that
@@TouchToneDSG Uh....I'd like to see Chief of Commercial justifying x units of Bus + worth 2 grand or system 500 given away in the next board meeting. Problem is, they are too big, and i am sure from their perspective this is not an issue (not all units were faulty), while their mid and high end customers will not change because of something like this. its business. But I get you. Maybe they could ve partnered with some software or hardware company and actually shipped out some more budget version of 500.
@@earlsfield dude I would have even been happy with that
I think they need big six.2
😂 same
I saw your original review when it came out, it was quite interesting, even more so now. Thanks for the review. We're all dreaming of a Big TwelvE or a Huge SiX ;-)
BTW, it kinda exists... it's called the XL-Desk. But be ready to rob a bank! (and buy a 32/32 interface, and a sh*tload of cables) ;-)
🤣 very true
@@TouchToneDSG I wish I could be that guy: ua-cam.com/video/zMM-gkXiNyk/v-deo.html
(I hope it's ok to link to another channel... I have no commercial nor personal reason to do so, it's just seeing someone mix on the XL-Desk).
Np at
Wish they would just offer a 4 channel add on. Simple.
True
Thats why I torrent my ass off! They don't care but, the consumer does!
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I did it in software I could never afford that stuff in hardware.
Hey it's all good man still getting work done
When you mentioned meth, I remember. I had to snap out of it.
Don't do drugs children.
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Hey thank your wife man she looking out for y’all 😢
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You are the low hanging fruit bro..a consumer/prosumer bug to them, now let an Alysha Keys have some manufacturing issues with her SSL Duality board and see how the SSL people respond,!🧐
Damn bro, could’ve said that better myself
So you can tell your wife to stop buying shoes and bags
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