6 Affordable Surplus Firearms In 2021
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2021
- In this video we discuss 6 affordable surplus firearms that are currently available on the market Last week we discussed the general increase in surplus firearm value. Some items, however, have remained low and affordable. Thank you for watching and be sure to subscribe for future videos!
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i used to get military surplus gun lists in 1960's, italian rifles were $7, german mausers $11, enfield .303 $12. that was 15 years after wwII so military surplus was very plentiful.
Well ive got 30 bucks. Let me get one of each.. Lol
Jk obviously.
But i love the history of gun prices. Ive got a bunch of old sears catalog adds that i have framed in my gun room/man cave that everyone talks about wjen they see them..
@@joewinters1533 you should try to find an old Herter's catalog, around 1968 they were literally dumping all their Italian made single action revolvers due to the new gun law outlawing mailing guns. 38, 357, 401 mag, 44 mag for $37 each. all you had to do was sign a coupon you were 18 and they mailed them out.
Use to see racks of them in the coast to coast stores
Those were the days!
M14 in the early 80 were 89$ I wish I would've got many of them
I always hear guys say that they could buy an SKS for $75 in 1980. But remember that the minimum wage in 1980 was $3.10 and $75 would be equivalent to $254.00 today in 2021.
Yeah but I was at a gun show last week and saw one sks m59/66 Yugo for $999 in 2006 I could pick one up for $99-120 the good old days of surplus are gone my friend
@@dairygrazer They wholesaled at $49.00
some of us didn’t work for minimum wage in ‘80…
This is a good point you are correct but i would very happily pay 250-300 for a sks today. I usually see them starting at 600.00.
@@justinthomas226 budsgunshop has them at 400 for norincos. So about 450 after tax and FFL fee.
When i was a kid, circa 1960-1970's. You could walk in any surplus store and there would be barrels full of surplus rifles. Garands, M1 carbines, K98s and so on. A ruger was easily obtainable for about 100 bucks. Those days are long gone for sure.
When I was a wee ole leprechaun in Ireland in circa 1860-1870s I remember when you could walk anywhere and not find anyr partateros
Ah, bugger. Good memories of a more reasonable time.
Don't forget those badass vintage bayonets! You can't touch those steel half-yards these days. Wish I had bought instead of just fondled them!
Those guns were still relevant then. Now they're not, so it's a shrinking supply. Hence, price goes up.
@@realtalk6195 I dont think the supply is shrinking as much as i think people are holding onto them to drive the price up.
I wish the investers would leave the surplus guns to us shooters and collect baseball cards instead.
Precious
I started buying surplus because I liked Soviet and Russian influenced weapons. Never intended for it to become an 'Investment'. Now my $69 Mosin Nagant's run around $300. An Enflield Mk 5 No.1 "Jungle Carbine" that was $299 is running about $800. Crates of 7.62*25mm Tokarov ammo was about 6 cents per round and now goes for $500 a can. Its nuts. I plan to buy some of the Carcano Calvary carbines just to have one while they are 'cheap'.
terry, you are the problem. you don't consider your 300 guns as collecting....
I have Surplus rifles, but My mentality is to keep them instead of selling them. The surplus market in today’s America is over, any junk cost and eye and a ball.
agreed.
I remember seeing Carcanos for $17 a piece at a local hardware store in Montana when I was a kid.
That must have been around the time Oswald bought his.
@@yepiratesworkshop7997 lmao
I bought one for 50 bucks when I was a kid. Came with two boxes of ammunition too.
What year so I could adjust for inflation
@@GrosvnerMcaffrey 1963 Nov. 22nd, I seem to recall. But, Oswald bought the rifle a few months earlier and ordered it with a scope. Otherwise, it would have been less than $10. I remember my dad buying -- at Montgomery Wards -- a Springfield 1903. They were in barrels, depending on the shape they were in. Some were about $7.50. Dad bought one that was new and still in the cosmoline for less than $15.00. Now, THOSE were the 'good old days!"
I remember 10-15 years ago a Mosin could be had for $80-90
How about the 1960's, when they could be bought MAIL ORDER for $15 ? My hubby bought a Tokarev semi-auto rifle for $30 and sold it later for $100 - now, they're going for 5X that.
@@marytica123 any Tokarev semi-automatic rifle is likely to sell for upwards of $2500. They are very rare and there has been some morbid curiosity surrounding Soviet and Warsaw Pact firearms lately
I think we all do. Sadly those days are gone.
Glad I got into the military surplus market over 20 years ago. Back when things were affordable and poor people bought mil surplus because that is what we could afford
Yea no joke - I am glad I picked up (most) of the surplus guns i wanted already!
Glad i got most of mine as well
Those of you who did are now sitting on gold. Give it another few years, and at this rate , you folks will have retirement grade collections.
Word.
pretty funny how milsurp imports were targeted in order to raise those prices right after bill failed to pass his eu style gun ban and confiscation bill isnt it? it is almost as if they have been working to price the poor people that stood up and said no out of the equation by removing their ability to own and operate firearms? they saw that we used them to put meat in our freezers so they decided to make sure that any cost savings to be had in that regard vanished. if it costs more for ammo and a licsens than it does to simply buy meat poor people wont be hunting as much. if you cant afford ammo to help teach your kid to be a sharp shooter then you end up with a population free of those pesky hunters that stood up and said no for the next time they move to pass a law that turns us fully back into being subjects again
I remember the 90's when most of this stuff barely crossed the $100 price range.
Even though most of it has gone up even after accounting for it, you still need to factor in inflation. But yeah I remember back even back around 2004-2005 Mosins were $49, Turkish Mausers were $39, SKS's were $80, and CZ-52's were $100. Granted I snapped up pretty much one of each of everything back then and still have most of it, but I do wish I'd have bought a bit more of them.
reminds me too much of the classic car industry now its too hard to get jack squat for cars AND guns its stupid seesh
@@jdguy23 guys with way more money jacking prices on both lol.
UA-cam gun channels killed the surplus gun market. Even these bottom of the barrel pieces will be super expensive one day soon.
@@michaelhicks7071 folls with deep pockets and desperation buying did as well.
My favorite rifle is still the first one I bought, an 8mm M1943 Spanish mauser that was advertised as “bubba’d” cause the bolt was bent. Paid $300 in 2016. Turns out, it’s actually one of a run of commercial Mausers made by one of the Spanish armories in the late 50s. Such a fun shooter.
Long gone are the days of the $89.99 SKS and $100 Mosin Nagants. Just hard for me to buy some of these surplus weapons because of price, odd ammo, etc. I can buy a modern firearm at similar price points.
Just seen a sks with bayonet at the local pawn for 700… but bayonet 🗡
I remember you use to could by a crate full of sks for dirt cheap
Buy now still before the liberals take all are rights. In Germany pre WII they seized all Jewish held arms and hunting rights. When Nazis came they couldn't fight back.
@@sneedmando186 'bout '93 DOD contracting w/my guys at YPG, they said hey we're gettin' SKSs! Not that interested, i said oh, how much? $129 new norinco in a box. Another $99/1,000 rnds, $110 for lead core.....yeah, ya know, ok! Lead core please.
Came in, zipped over to AZ, went to a dump pit, & w/~10 guys putting steel down on the old cars in the pit, looked like welders down there!
Impressed w/the design. Apologies to howard johnson's for the chunk outa the dresser from the gas piston. I know to restrain that now. Oops.😯
Ok, lemme shamelessly highjack the thread, & piss off the youngsters! One of the (very) few advantages to being old. My ruger std auto 22 (i still have) was $37.50. My .357 blackhawk was $87.50 (also still have)8. My first can of bullseye was $3.50. & i just loaded ammo w/some
$.86-marked "Fedco" cci primers.
Anybody top that?
My first rifle was an SKS Surplus, it still had the folding bayonet attached and a cleaning kit in the stock.
That was my oldest brothers first gun. First non standard "country" gun I ever interacted with. Still want one
im jealous
I once took a CZ-52 to the range at GAT guns in Elgin IL. Scared the hell out of everyone else on the range. So loud and massive muzzle flash.
You should consider a different colored backdrop when showing examples in the same color.
Same with the color of the shirt.
There is a double-edged sword aspect to rifles in unusual cartridges, the plus is if somebody else gets your rifle they will not easily be able to supply ammo for it, especially in a shtf, but if you own it, odds are you stocked up on ammo and if you're smart you will have purchased reloading dies for that caliber, of course the downside is ammo is not common or plentiful.
9mm and 223 were the first empty shelves my dude. learn how to homestead if you want to prepare for shtf. but that's not as sexy is it..
Eyeball rounds are also the last ones that get put back into production whenever there's a shortage, and when you do find them if you just been sitting on the shelf for a number of years
@@JR-lg7fd 17th floor, I sleep on a mattress on top of a box spring on top of cases of 5.56 at 18 cents a round. 2 chest freezers and an extra bedroom full of water.
Bought a property near the range for reloading. And to bury honey at.
I own bees that work my fields.
Don't shame that guy for trying.
@@jamesbael6255 ok I didn't
@@jamesbael6255 you want a cookie or something?
Those 52's firing 7.62x25's are very high pentation shooters. They defeat vests better than anything except the most modern new rounds Like the FN 5.7.
Yes just like the 5.55 a smaller bullet is better
Only with steel core surplus.
Modern factory loads are lead core. They deform and are stopped by IIIA.
If acquiring anything in 7.62x25, one should get some surplus to save for that reason. Just remember, all the surplus is corrosive.
PPU also makes a hollow point in their defensive line for it. Just make sure it feeds well in your firearm.
I just found this channel wish I found it before. Great information thanks! One more thing there is now a 10 mil Zastava being sold it's a surplus from the early 90s.
Nice episode. Production values going up faster than surplus prices.
checking in from cicero! this is awesome glad I found a channel from westfield!
Hey Chris. Awesome video. Recommend a white or light background to see the firearms easier. You do you. Always enjoy your videos. Hope the family is doing well.
Star pistols are amazingly accurate. They make a great training pistol and carry pistol.
Also the Astra revolver in 357 magnum, great spanish guns.
PS: On the subject of Tokarevs, a VERY important caveat, almost _ENTIRELY_ ignored "in print" -- the firing pin.
The Tokarevs have a reputation for being "drop-unsafe" and I in fact met someone who had shot himself in the leg -- the pistol fell, discharged, and the _fast_ bullet passed through his leg, through the bone, into his knee, through the bone, _out_ his knee, into a 4x4 wooden post, _through_ the post, and into the sky.
The problem is that they use a "live" firing pin, making it COMPLETELY UNSAFE to carry "hammer-down" on a loaded chamber! The hammer presses the firing pin into the primer, and the _least_ amount of "tapping" on the hammer will set it off.
There is a guy (in Serbia, I believe) who has a UA-cam channel, and in one of his videos, he holds his M57, hammer down, aimed downrange, while his assistant gives the hammer a tap with a piece of wood. *BOOM!*
Almost ALL pistols use an _inertial_ firing pin -- the hammer hits the firing pin, sends it flying, and it then strikes the primer. The firing pin is NOT long enough to be in contact with the hammer and the primer at the same time.
As a result, many people think it's "safer" to keep the hammer _down,_ so that it can't "accidentally be released."
This is _severely_ BAD "medicine" on a weapon with a LIVE firing pin!
I periodically point this out online, ever since I learned of that "unique feature" of an otherwise pretty clever design (the entire firing mechanism lifts right out of the gun when the slide is removed!)
I don't know why Gospodin Tokarev designed it that way, other than _perhaps_ to ensure better reliability with "less than excellent quality" soviet primers. That is wild speculation on my part, if anyone knows the actual reason I'd really like to know what it is.
This may be the reason: Gospodin Tokarev + copious amounts of vodka = bad design
@@aryanson was good enough to crush the nazis. maybe the guys at walther and mauser should've had some more vodka, could have come up with some designs during the war that worked
@NoName99 NoFace88 -- from examining one I must admit that there is a certain overall elegance to it; for one thing it's almost impossibly _thin_ -- and not to mention it having been the _most_ powerful handgun issued by any military in WW2, nearly _twice_ as potent as the .45ACP.
But that live firing pin is a real off-putter. Now, the one I examined was the "civilian" Yugo, with a fairly decent safety milled into the slide (unlike the "for importation reasons" trigger-blocking "safety" endemic to all of the milsurps). So, the one I examined, while _not_ having a half-cock (even though the manual said it did have one -- _bad_ Zastava!), IMO _should_ be able to be safely carried cocked and locked.
_However..._ If there should ever be a need for it to be "fired in anger" I fear the almost universal "post-action" action would be to -- without even thinking about it -- lower the hammer.
Oops!
A pity no one makes an inertial firing pin kit for them.
Can a Toke be set up with a left hand safety like a M 1911??
@@davekoenig9935 -- I guess it depends on how you define "safety."
The Tokarev does not have any safety other than the half-cock position. It is designed to be carried with either an empty chamber, or, a loaded chamber and the hammer on half-cock (unlike virtually every other weapon _with_ a half-cock).
The modern M57A apparently begins with a normal Tokarev slide, in which a hole is then milled _almost_ completely from left to right, and, the left side of the hole has an area milled into the surface of the slide (where the serrations are located), to provide a space for the safety lever to move.
When this slide-mounted safety is engaged, the hammer is blocked from striking the firing pin, and the firing pin is locked, so that even if the weapon is dropped nose-down onto a hard surface, the firing pin cannot strike the primer.
On a "normal" Tokarev (one not modified as per the above), a "safety" is added, so that it will be legal to import to the USA. This "safety" is just a trigger-block. It does not lock the hammer, does not _block_ the hammer, and does nothing to the firing pin.
This "safety" is generally in the form of a small lever attached to a pin, which is fitted into a hole drilled into the frame. It is clearly an afterthought and does not "blend" well into the (for lack of a better term) cosmetics.
I have seen _one_ Tokarev type that has a "safety" in the form of a "Glock type" trigger. The standard trigger has a slot milled down the center, with a small metal plate mounted in the slot, the plate locking the trigger unless the plate is pressed.
Basically, you cannot pull the trigger, unless you... pull the trigger. Just like a Glock.
I am BTW _convinced_ that the Glock "safety" was added as a bit of a practical joke in order to get a chuckle out of the insanity of the US importation requirement. "OK, we added a safety. Now you cannot pull the trigger unless the safety is actuated!"
Or to put it more succinctly, you cannot pull the trigger, unless you... pull the trigger.
So I can understand why a foreign company would do such a thing to enable their product to be exported to the USA, but for an _American_ company to _ape_ that "safety" on a weapon that does NOT have "importation criteria" for which it must comply?
I digress. If you want a 1911 type safety you will need to speak with a gunsmith that has a fully equipped machine shop and is skilled in the use of his machinery.
That, and a relatively deep wallet.
Excellent: this comes just in time to address the chronic shortage of firearms in the United States.
You can find just about anything ,but for a price.
Great video Chris! Thank you.
I highly recommend the star BM, its good as is or you can have fun touting them up. I had one I cerakoted and added a tlr-7 or 6 light
I'm surprised you didn't mention the Zastava M57 Tokarev. They're a lot easier to find nowadays than the Czech CZ-52. And cheaper, too!
It is probably because Zastava makes new production M57s for the US market.
More robust design as well. CZ52 known for firing pin problems.
@@panzerabwerkanone the design of the VZ/CZ is such a cool design but it really is a much weaker design.
Someone said c96 can take 762 tok. It is just that the c96 guns are so worn down they won't handle it anymore.
@@andrewgates9333 that is almost painful in its inaccuracy. While the C96 can chamber 7.62x25mm it cannot fire many rounds before the much hotter round will cause serious damage. Even when they were producing new Broomhandles German service members would destroy their C96s by firing captured Tok ammunition out of the when they ran out of 7.63 ammo. The C96 while awesome (one of my favorite semi auto sidearms) is just a much weaker design.
Don't recommend single loading a Carcano without a single loading block. It will break your extractor.
Picked up a couple Beretta 81BBs and was awesome to shoot. Cheap too. Love surplus guns
Some of the long Carcanos were built with gain twist rifling. They were converted to carbines by the Italian government by shortening the barrels. Unfortunately this removed the gain twist part of the rifling,, and what was left wasn't fast enough to stabilize the long, heavy standard Carano bullet. The only fix for this is to shoot shorter, lighter bullets.
Last month I finally found some of the hot Bulgarian 7.62x25 ammo with the bi-metal jacket. My cz-52 is now ready for home defense.
The CZ-52 was not designed for, nor should ever be run with, "hot" submachinegun 7.62x25 Tokarev ammunition. In doing so you're liable to shatter the firing pin and/or crack the slide, rendering the firearm unsafe for use.
I can't believe how much the simple Mosin Nagant has gone up in value in the past 10 years. I paid less than $100 for a couple of them and only $160 for a hex receiver and now these things are approaching $500. I simply got lucky.
My friend has one and he takes it to the range just watch the reaction of all the shooters--
says it is a beast and so loud!
Carcano clips are available if you know where to look. Also, to anyone who says a Makarov design in .32/.380 is anemic, I invite you to fire a 9x18 Polish P-64. Because it has a fixed barrel, none of the recoil energy is expended by being converted to work before it reaches your hand. There's a reason the PP and subsequent designs were chambered in smaller calibers.
Can u find ammo for the carcano?
Amazing..I have the FEG PPK clone in 380...absolutely my favorite carry.
I also have the Spanish Star in 9mm. It is my bedside home defense.
Both are very reliable.
Thought for a moment he was going to mention my SKS in depth.
Chris i like your presentation and its apparent you have decent knowledge of what you speak. Im Also always a sucker for millsurp. I cant be the first to suggest your backdrop or lighting?
Greatvideo thank you for sharing!
I love my VZ70. The DA trigger is heavy (hey, it's a milsurp!), but smooth, and the SA is pretty nice. Recoil is basically nonexistent, and it's an accurate little cuss.
Only thing to beware of - don't dry fire the pistol a lot. The steel used in the firing pins for a lot of CZ pistols of that era wasn't the best, and the firing pins can become brittle from dry-firing.
Thanks for sharing!
Wow Chris. Great job with the studio setup. I really like how you insert visual cuts like you are as well. A mic would add so much to the equation. I hear you really good, just a little hollow / tinny. No complaints though honestly. Just giving feedback. Thanks for another great vid and topic.
There are some great wireless mics that you can use. Please take a look at "UA-cam Channel Basic Gear" by Cyclops Videos Joe W Rhea, aka "Joe the Cyclops". Love your content and would love see you expand your viewers.
@@Quality_Guru Joe is my goto for scopes. No bullshit. He tells it like it is.
Seconding the mike comment.
The visuals were necessary as you really couldn't see the guns ...
I would love to have a PA-63 to add to my collection. I haven't seen one in years though. Very snappy pistol in 9mm Makarov.
The CZ-52 has not been seen in a long time. Yes, you might find one laying around. 7.62*25mm is a high velocity, low weight projectile. recoil is very well managed in the CZ-52.
Carcano Cavalry Carbine is still under $300 to collectors. The clips is another matter.
Ah..back in my day in early 90s I remember those $75 SKSes... and no one wanted them.
First rifle I shot bigger than a .22lr was an SKS about 1992. I remember being shocked when my friend said he had bought it for $100 with 100 rnds 7.62. I wanted one but was 16 at the time. Wish I could go back and buy myself a few cases of them.
Yup, and cases of Russian ammo was 45-50 bucks
Very good video. I never thought of purchase a old fireman .
I love the 7.62x25 as I buy out your stock of it. Toks are awesome.
I have a CZ52 that is a good truck gun. If you buy one of the replacement barrels in 9X19 you can bore the camber out to 9X23 Largo and have some fun. Original mags work well and you don't have to worry about making a mistake with some of the CCP 7.62X25 SMG ammo that can be too hot for the pistol, and corrosive primers. I keep wanting to upgrade the sights for older eyes but don't want to cut into the slide.
I have a east German Makarov absolutely love this gun.
My every day carry. The best
@@bobbystarkey6813 check out the fab defense grip for the makarov. If you have not already. Converts the heel mag release to a thumb release. Worth every penny.
Some of you might be old enough to remember when Woolworths sold NRA VG-EXC Garands for around $115-145.99 and M1 Carbines a bit less. They would have every manufacturer from time to time if you were willing to check a couple of times a month. I remember a few IHC Garands and IBM Carbines in the mix. They sold them in their store on Broadway in Manhattan right across from city hall as well as other stores. When I graduated HS I bought a '43 Springfield every part original SA as was the barrel. Still have it and it will group 3.5-4.25" at 100 yds. with 150 gr. ball through the irons. Hard core Minute of Man main battle rifle - not a polyplastic .22 toy like these ARs/M-Forgeries. One day it goes to my boys and grand kids along with my M1A builds. The back of American Rifleman was a BONANZA of milsurps too.
Thanks Chris enjoyed it
Thanks for making this video
I have a CZ-52 with an extra 9mm barrel. Surprisingly the original 7.62x25 mags will feed 9mm.
Thanks for the surplus show love old surplus
New to your channel really really like your info I live in Commie-fornia so I'd be lucky to see anything that has a bayonet on it lol
Thanks for sharing great video subscribed
So glad I got my No. 4 Enfield rifle, 1914 US Enfield rifle, and others back when they were $125.00 or less (sometimes MUCH less.) Same goes for my Russian Makarov, a great little pistol even if I do have to order 9mm Makarov ammo. ("Taint the same as plain ol' 9mm, for those who didn't know.) Also inherited a "9mm Corto" (.32 cal.) Italian Beretta model 1934 from my dad. He'd picked it up in Italy during WW2. ... I remember ads in the old gun mags for Carcano's at about $13.00. Yeah, that was a while ago.
9mm corto is .380 auto, not .32.
.32 is 7,65mm or 7,65 Browning.
@@vgnlda Quite right of course. Brain fart.
I love the .32 cal for a back up(ankle )gun the ballistics will suprise you for what it is.
A couple of years ago, got couple of friends together and we bought four of the Spanish star 9-bm. The dealer made an attempt to grade them at different prices because the wide variety of use and conditions. Funny part was the most expensive one was the least accurate? Nevertheless, they were a great value for a fair shooting 9. Don't expect buck mark accuracy.
Thanks again Chris, always good information. I have a Star BM-9 love her. Looking for Super in 9mm.
I heard somewhere that they had soft steel used in their construction. Don’t know if it’s true or not.
@@guaporeturns9472 my BM9 has been fine. But in morning I will do some research. Night
I own a 1977 Star BM in 9mm. Solid little gun. Runs great.
I have a Star Model B and I love it!
CZ 52 pistol rocks!!!! It shoots 100 yard steel targets like a rifle!!
I lean toward the cz75 bilt like a tank and running in 9mm
I have a 52 and one chambered in the 9mm, both are awesome
Bought my CZ 52 back in 2005 for $115
Don't dry fire them. You'll break your firing pin.
it's because of the velocity of the 7.62 tok ammo. It has very little bullet drop at 100 yards. I do the same with my Romanian Tokarov.
That vz-52 also has the distinction of factory 9mm barrels if you are willing to search.
Where on earth are you finding CZ52 (VZ52) pistols for under $300? The cheapest that I have seen in over ten years even on gun broker was $400 and typically the decent to good ones have been $450 and up. Also you should have mentioned that they suffer from a few issues like brittle firing pins, they cannot handle hotter ammunition (typically said to be a Tokarev issue but incorrectly so) in part because of the roller locking design and the thin chamber wall and the thumb safety is also a decocker but you do not want to use it to decock the pistol because due to the metallurgy issues that the Czechs had the decocker can actually fire the pistol.
There are or were anyway replacement firing pins available for about $20.00 that cure the brittle problem. There were also 9mm conversion kits available but they seem to have dried up.
I bought a CZ52 from a pawn shop about 20 years ago, the clerk had no idea what it was, thought it was a 9mm, ha! He was asking $90 and I about broke my fingers getting the wallet out of my pocket so fast. Installed new rollers, machined firing pin and recoil spring. I just wish it had a push button magazine release. I never use the decocker, broke the nail on my right thumb too many times, great surplus item!
And don't forget the firearm transfer fees you have to pay on top for it from online sales and now your up to about $450.00!!
My first firearm was a M44 my dad bought me at 18 for $80. Surplus guns are awesome
Have a Enfield #4 mk1 and Mosin Nagant bought 15 years ago for $75 each. Both issued 1942. Both in great shape and shoot at what you aim at. Prices way up but if in good shape great guns. Son took over Nagant when he turned 13. First three deer taken with Enfield iron sights at 75 to 120 yards. Son now does the hunting. My Enfield was reconditioned I think in 1949 with F stamp added.
Hey Chris, Can you please call Euro Contacts and Get like a shit ton of SKS ..I need them at $100 again..lol
Yes, please order about 10,000. I have a lot of buddies and people I know that would take up on those.
@@joshuagibson2520 Yeah, Chris! Make it happen!
Would be down to buy some
I'd buy 6
One of my favorite categories to collect is ww2 bolt action rifles. Pa is a hot spot for these collectables. I have a quick comparison between a pre war and war time Mosin that I think is very interesting.
Great video
One tip I would recommend is maybe wearing a personal microphone on your shirt when you record, the audio sounds a little hollow or has a big of an echo. Either way you sound far from the microphone. Thanks for the content, just here to help
Surplus used to be so fun because of its price point. Now unless you're truly collecting its just like why bother.
Im from Indy just found your channel imma have to check you out bro
I have an SMLE and a mosin m38 from my grandpa. I also bought an M44. I like old school/surplus guns.
Great list Chris! Started collecting surplus a couple of years ago with a Star BM. Then I was at my local gun store(old hardware store type) and they had a CZ-52 with holster and extra mag for $299.00 which I bought the next day. Then I was able to find a Carcano M91-28 carbine which I have also acquired an original bayonet. And last, just found a Zastava M70 which seems to be unissued in like new condition after removing the cosmoline. Always enjoy your videos and milsurp has become an enjoyable hobby! CMP also came through with an M1 a couple of weeks ago.
How long did the CMP keep you waiting? I sent my order for an M1 back in May. I also got an unissued, still cosmolined, M70 last year. Still haven't shot it as I don't want to burn through a limited supply of .32 until the prices stabilize.
@@mattschmitt9924 Hi Matt. TheCMP received my order on March 8th this year and I received a Service Grade M1 on July 9th. They do list Service grade as "sold out" however, they are trying to fill orders they have already received. I got my M70 from RGuns who is the actual importer and the price was lower than the one gun Aimsurplus had listed.
Sadly I've owned two Star pistols in my lifetime and both of them were jam-o-matics. I went as far as replacing all the springs and parts I could on one of them and still couldn't get it to feed properly. Sad because they are nice looking and handling 1911 style pistols...
My first rifle was a carcano. Paid 25.00 for it. Norma makes the only ammo I know of for it. In 1978 it was costing me 20.00 a box .
Liked the video before I even watched it. Now you better live up to my expectations lol.
Good Show Thanks
I have a Hungarian FEG and it is a really good gun
Not age myself but I remember those Italian rifles being sold for $19 + in Woolworths.
Glad I bought my mosins for 60bucks (average), m1 carbine 299 (Saginaw), Garand 600,norincoM14 400, k31 200 and a bunch of enfields 250. Had BAR parts kit at 200 a pop sold them like a boob and had a Johnson 41 hand me down sold for 350………
I got 6 sks rifles in cosmoline with spike bayonets for 39.95 each plus tax, they had about eight wooden boxes of them, wish ida bought more, my wife thought I was crazy!
@@stevekafka my collection has dwindled down. Sold most of them a few months back for 4-500 a rifle. I see them on gunbroker for 1k and wayyyy up.
The lighting for your inset videos makes the handguns appear to be stainless.
I love my cz52. Love it.
You didn't mention it when you talked about the safety on the VZ70 but the safety is also a decocker when you push past the 'safe' position.
IDK what 7.62x55 is, but the Tokarev, or the Romanian TT-33 is 7.62x25, which has shown to penetrate body armor that some very popular calibers won’t. There are videos demonstrating this, and judging from many of the comments on those videos, those types who won’t own anything that isn’t a Glock, a Colt, a S&W, or a Barreta, find this so offensive that they will criticize the test method… or try to make a case for something like a $150 Century Arms Romanian TT-33 being way too heavy and bulky to ever serve very well as a usable sidearm. It’s the old “It isn’t whether you win or lose, it’s how you look while playing the game…” mindset.
Aye 32 is underrated that’s all I’m saying and for me personally i wouldn’t go any smaller than that but I’d sure as hell would like to see Glock or smith and Wesson just anyone make a modern day firearm chambered in out of a standard 15 round 9mm mag you might just get 2 or 3 extra rounds and the lighter recoil allows you to spit more led faster in a tighter group
There’s a guy on eBay who makes good 3d print sights for the Zastava m70 and j&g sales has the mags tho they’re super expensive. Definitely a fun lil pistol once you manage to find ammo mags and fix the sights
I had many Star B-series pistols (B, BM, Super-B) and they all, every one, broke multiple parts, mainly extractors and firing pins. Fun collectors, but don't use it for defense.
I was really upset because my fiance's dad had an SKS that I was covetting like crazy and he had an auction and she says he sold it for over 1000 dollars. I had told him he could easily get 800 plus for it based on what i've seen at gun shows. He also had a bulk container of ammunition for it and I was afraid to ask how much he sold that for.
When I turned 18 I vaguely remember seeing them for around 250 bucks? I wish I coulda bought one back then
$1000 SKS? It had to have been a Russian one in good condition. If it was for a Chinese or Yugo that's WAY too much.
Prices of MilSurp firearms have gone up WAY up; I bought a Russian M44 years ago from a pawn shop for, I think, maybe less than $100, and yesterday I saw one in an auction going for $405.
Recently I've seen the trend toward believing "military surplus" means "superior quality", driving prices ridiculously high. Doesnt matter if it's a firearm or a pair of socks.
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Was just a few years ago you could find an sks in every pawn shop in America, and cheap too. The Saturday Night Specials were plentiful too, seems like all the inexpensive guns are sold. By some miracle you find one worth owning they are priced so ridiculously high.
I’ve had a couple of the PA-63(s) and the Carcano
The Feg was very accurate and dependable
I never shot the Italian rifle when I had it simply due to finding the odd 6.5 ammo it used
the MAB, a accurate 9MM parabellum round,not bad.
I was looking at Mausers lately, insane prices.
I sold everything surplus except a M98 and an 03A3.And a flare gun. Interests change and profits were hard to turn down .Some SKS's sold for a grand plus.. It was bought for speculation and that flower has bloomed.
Just 7-8 years ago I could go into an off the beaten path gun shop or pawn shop and get nice SKS, AKs Mosins etc. for under 300. But since the 80's I have a obsession for spam cans and mil surp crates of ammo. When it was cheap, I stacked it deep.
I have a Star B model 9mm Luger. I love it!!
In the late 70's Woolworths would have wooden barrels full of 8mm bolt actions for $59, and they went down to $39 on sale. Early 80's I bought a brand new Dan Wesson .357 mag pistol pac with case, 2,4,6, and 8" barrels, target and combat grips, belt buckle and tools for $169 brand new
Well I've been looking hard at some M1 carbines and K98 but the prices just keep me looking.
RTI had some cool rifes from Africa but there prices are over the top.
I tried ordering from RTI and they cancelled my order with no notice because the FFL, sent from a full firearms store, was "invalid".
The Yugo M57 Tokarev pistol is one of my favorites
PA-63. . . Mine came with recoil springs that must have been rejects from the BIC pen factory. Replacements from Wolff, and they are very reliable and accurate. As a blow-back with a bit more power than .380 ACP, with a light frame, recoil is fairly stiff. I like mine.
Wolff springs are awesome. I have a 21lb one on my makarov. I also have the fab defense grip that converts the heel mag release to a thumb release. Makes reloading a lot faster. Makarov has always been one of my favorite handguns.
Mine is a Bulgarian circle 10 and was built a year after i was born. Which i think makes it even cooler lol.
Hopefully crates and crates of good quality SKS,s will start coming available again. I miss when they were $75-$125 each. Wish I had bought more and also some AK, when they were $2-$350!!
I love my cz52 iv been shooting it for over 20 years an never once a hang up or a problem extremely good quality excellent design an hot ass round