The Top 7 Surplus Rifles
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A few years ago, I cringed when I spent $180 on a very good Mosin Nagant rifle. Shortly after, I cringed when I paid $700 for a Rock Island 1903. Nowadays, I realize that I made great choices.
I got mine for $70 like 13 years ago. It is crazy.
A few years ago I bought Mosin PU Sniper rifle for $549.00 from Classic. The PU scope is now worth $495.00 on ebay.
Where could I get a mosin or kar
@@x3mobkiddo656 gun broker
I picked up a m44 mosin for 100 bucks and it was a very good as grading and I'm still kicking myself for getting rid of it.
The Carcano is cool in that it has gain twist rifling where the rifling is slower near the
chamber and the speed increases as you near the muzzle. Also, the 6.5mm cartridge
it uses is inherently accurate.
I just picked up a Carcano about 3 weeks ago for $250, ammo isn't the easiest to find, but not bad. Love shooting it. Accurate, semi light recoil for a bolt gun, not very heavy either, which is a plus when carrying it (vs my 9 pound Mosin).
The Carcano Model 1891 long rifles had the gain twist barrels and those that were cut down to make the M91 Truppe Speziali short rifles lost the gain twist part of the barrels which really did stabilize the 6,5mm bullet, causing a loss of accuracy. The more you learn about Carcanos, you realize that the designers were geniuses. 80 years is a pretty respectable service life. The accuracy problem was caused by using .264" bullets in a .268" barrel. If you can get cast lead bullets in .270", you will have a very accurate, light recoiling, CHEAP (for now) and handy little Italian sports car of rifles.
I just saw several of them the exact same model in my gun shop.
1. K31
2. Swedish Mauser M96
3. M1917 (yes, prefer it to o3)
4. M1 Garand (best semi-auto imho)
5. Vz. 24 (superiority of g98 for real price)
6. Lee-Enfield No. 4
7. M39 (agree with “best mosin” label)
M-1, andM-39
The 03 Springfield is the best rifle I have ever held in my hands.
Mine shoots pretty damn good too
Daniel Gamache 03 A3 is the best.
The 03 is the best it is a best I love it. I remember the first time I saw it I traded 30 30 for it 35 years ago.
But they sure are expensive and good luck finding 30 06 in 2021. But your right it is and awesome rifle with lots of history
I was disappointed not to see a sks on the list
That is because they are trying to sell us the shit no one wants!
Thats because they ran out of SKS's a few months ago :D
me two
@@richardtroell6407 I still have a cosmoline-caked SKS that I haven't cleaned yet. I need to do that one of these days...
@@richardtroell6407 I'll let you know if I ever get it done... :-)
I picked up an Enfield mk.3 in November, made in 1943. Fantastic condition, fires great, and buttery smooth action.
I have the M1 Garand produced by Harrington and Richardson in 1957. In excellent condition and shoots great. My father had the M1 Carbine but it was stolen 😢. Some great workmanship.
Simo Hayha and the Finns were shooting Russians not Germans. Finland ended up joining with Germany as cobelligerents vs Russia but Simo Hayha was retired at that point.
Think he had over 500 confirmed kills with open iron sights
@@user-ib3yx3fg2q He may have used an M28, which is one of the M39s predecessors as well.
you are right but at the end, the finnish were fighting the germans too, the lapland war.
@@user-ib3yx3fg2q and 800ish with the m28 and the sumoi M31
@@user-ib3yx3fg2q And... Simo was only operational for Six weeks of combat...SIX! That's over 100 kills per week. 15-20 per day.
Some particulars of note about the Finn Mosins. The actions were captured during the war of independence with Russia in 1917. The Finns completely re-worked the action, produced their own trigger, far more accurate barrel, sights, and designed the finger-mortised stocks out of arctic birch, which allowed the stock to flex in the sub-zero temps in winter and not warp, affecting accuracy. Simo Häyhä actually used the Mosin M-28 civil guard rifle with iron sights, because he said using a scope raised your head too high. He dispatched over 600 Russians in just over four months (Winter War Nov.30, 1939-March 1940.) He was shot in the jaw by a Soviet sniper or he would have added a few more to his record. Permanently disfigured but lived well into his 90s. The greatest sniper of all time...
Yes sir, i cringed at the "germans" when he stated them
The barrels are heavier and have 7 groove rifling, they have a 2 stage trigger and there’s a mechanical interrupt in the magazine that prevents rim lock
The iron sights are also great and allow for really fine adjustments in 25 meter increments. You can also get aftermarket rails from brass stacker that fit forward of the receiver with no drilling or tapping, you just replace the recoil lug and the rear sight pin and allow a long eye relief optic to be mounted
I’ve got a vortex scout optic on mine and I’ve turned it into a good (but heavy) scout rifle, it’s solid as, never had an issue and it only cost me about $700 usd total in 2019
You can just remove it with a hex key and put the original parts back in when you wanna sell or use it as a collectors piece
Finland ground off the Imperial Russian crests because they’d been a province of Russia before 1918. The White Death sniper
Simo Hayha shot Soviet Russians, not Germans. Prior to WWII Finland was invaded by the Soviet Union in what was called the Winter War. The tiny Finnish army inflicted over 300,000 casualties on the massive Soviet forces. If you learn your history it makes the story of these weapons even better.
M1 Garand #1 hands down. I love mine not only for its history but it's ease in maintenance and accuracy. Might want to mention though not to fire new manuf. sporting 30.06 ammo due to it's high pressure. Sellior&Bellot, Creedmoor, and Winchester make excellent reproduction M1 Garand ammo.
Replace stock gas plug with adjustable schuster you can shoot whatever ammo you want. I shoot 180 gr in mine and it loves it
One pride and joy is my 1897/1944 Sako M39. It’s insanely accurate and a blast to shoot.
Favorite is the 30-40 Krag. My father had several and this was my first deer rifle.
Surprise the SKS didn't make it on the list especially over the Carcano. Such a accurate, tough and reliable gun compared to the Carcano and the ammo (7.62x39) is way cheaper and easier to get than that of the Carcano. Still, great video and enjoyed watching, thanks Classic Firearms!
Still hv my SKS, since 1990 still my trunk rifle, Never fails either.
I guess they had to limit the list. The SKS is a great rifle.
Great video. My favorite, my father brought a 303 Enfield home from Europe and I loved that rifle. I wasn't able to get it from him before he passed and it was sold. I tried to buy it from his "friend" who bought it. The guy refused to even talk to me when I tried to buy it from him.
Lots of Swiss K11 and K31 available online. Lots in real good shape too. 7.5 Swiss ammo not the cheapest but great cartridge.
The K-31 is the most accurate rifle I've ever owned. Simply fantastic. If you own one, remove the butt plate and you may find a tag with the name and unit of the soldier who last possessed the rifle.
My 2 top shooters were a Springfield 03A3 or my Turkish Mauser in 8MM.
Mine K-31 has a tag.
However, you may not find any GP-11 ammunition. But a marvelous rifle, nonetheless.
Usually the bores are excellent. Swiss take care of their rifles.
wow the all look like brand new out of the factory, the wood looks amazing
5 years ago I bought a Mosin carbine and paid $300 for it. The stock was a light color wood, just beautiful. At that time the long rifles were going for $150.
My favourite classic rifle is one that I am lucky enough to own. A No4 Mk2 service rifle (b). It is a target version of the Lee Enfield built with iron target sights in 1953 the same year I was born. I have to say though it looks and functions much better than I do, and is accurate.
Love my 1937 Mauser K98. Accurate and packs a punch.
I had a K31 back in the 1980s i paid $65 for it. Best shooting rifle ever. I sold it because i could not obtain ammo local at that time. Used to shoot M1s at NRA with excellent results, but like the astute small groups of K31 shooting.
I will be glad when we get back to normal and you actually have stuff in stock.
@cloverleafsippa713 no you dont lol. they will be twice what their current prices are
@cloverleafsippa713 me too!
@cloverleafsippa713 Got a NEW one in the 80's for $50, and NEVER looked back! To ME a better rifle than the AK and I LOVE AK's! The gun NEW would still be cheaper than an AK today! You could use from stripper clips, mag, or a big ass drum! Good choice!
And when the prices aren’t retardedly gouged
Going to be a long while lol. March/April likely.
Another great videos , thanks guys!
.30-06 is such a great round!!!
The Garland M-1 was my first semi-automatic rifle and I would love to have one. My first bolt action 30-06 was, and remains, a Springfield 30-06, Model 1903, six digit serial number that I bought in 1962 for $25. Still works. This one has the rear sight mounted above the chamber as opposed to behind the receiver. My grandfather used one just like it in WWI in the battles of Chateau Thierry and Belleau Wood. He swore by its accuracy.
I have a m-1 wish I could run up on a Springfield that was the first rifle I ever fired when I was a boy, my uncle had it from ww1 after he came home he got it from the what is now known as the cmp
I loved my 303...It was great rifle....would like to get my hands on one again.
How in the world did you miss the Swedish Mauser M-38 Short Rifle in 6.5 x 55 Swedish caliber? In my military collection I’ve owned two of them. (with bent down bolt handle....not straight bolt handle). Fantastic rifles.. great cartridge...and very accurate. Can load the magazine using stripper clips.
Please more of these in the giveaways. The AR styles are great but for the older collectors like me would love more giveaways like this.
I was about to be very upset while sitting here watching and you two. While you were wrapping up the #6 surp rifle. Thinking to myself how are they not going to mention the Mosin. Then i see you saved the best for last. Good list and very spot on. I recently bought my first numbers matching Mosin. Took me years to find one matching that wasn't completely beat up and rough looking. The Mosin is such a beautiful rifle and extremely accurate. One of my favorites i own!
I purchased a K-31 about 10 years ago and it's easily my favorite rifle.
Bullets are hard to find
I found some a few months ago on sgammo $180 for 200
@@tojo9979 see above
Good picks, I own three of the seven, and agree with the others, but you might have included the small ring Swedish Mauser in 6.5X55.
That is one of the first correct explanations of the garand design I’ve heard in a long time. Good job.
If the original round was a smaller caliber, almost makes one wonder if the box mag was ment for 10 rounds at first but only held 8 30-06.
@@shadowcat3163 don’t think so. It was .308, so entirely different, short action.
I’ve owned most of theses.
Honestly,my go to was the Fin version of the Mosin
The US did not lose a "Mauser action" suit. The US paid Mauser about $220,000 in total for the licensing (a little over $20,000 from the Treasury in two payments, and $200,000 from the US Armory in nine payments). There was a related law suit filed by Deutsche Waffen-und Munitionfabriken over the Spitzer type cartridge. They had a US patent, along with several German patents for the designs, but the US also had previous work and patents that pre-dated DW&Ms. The lawsuit was therefor doomed to fail. Of course WWI broke out about 2 weeks after the suit was filed and was never settled. The US "seized" DW&Ms patent during the war. After the war DW&M brought suit again for violation of the patent, however, the court decided that it didn't care about the validity of the patent, and instead determined that the US violated a treaty with Germany in seizing the patent, and awarded damages based on the seizure, and DW&M was awarded a flat $300,000 for that. The US appealed and eventually lost that case after 7 or 8 years, and ended up having to pay the award, plus interest of about $112,000.
If the US had not "seized" the patent during the war, DW&M would have likely lost their suit based on the Spitzer cartridge design, as it would have been proven derivative of US work and patents.
This. I know I'm late to the conversation, but I'm getting kinda fed up with the disinformation regarding the "mauser" lawsuit.
For surplus rifles, my favorite WW2 rifle is the BAR ( the K98 Mauser if you meant pick a bolt action/semi-auto ). For post WW2 surplus, it's the SKS ( I'm an AKM and .45ACP guy, which makes the M1911-A1 my favorite surplus pistol ). BTW, Finland was allied with Germany in WW2. They were invaded by Russia because Stalin feared a German attack across the Balkans. The Finns defeated Russia using light ski troops, so the Russians did what Russia does and came back in overwhelming strength. The Finns continued a resistance movement during the European war and were often equipped with German Mausers rechambered in 6.5 Swedish Mauser. I have a pair of surplus Mausers, one in 8mm German Mauser and one is a Finn in 6.5 Mauser with the crown of Finland stamped on the receiver
I see a lovely ZPAP M70 in the background, probably the brother to mine.
My only issue with your picks, is ammo availability.
7.5 Swiss is amazing, the quality of both the tool and the cartridge is incredible, have nailed steel at 300 yards with sub MOA accuracy proves you know what you claim.
However, these days, ammo is the deciding factor. My preferred round is 7x57 Mauser, stocked up when it was cheap and available. Impossible to find today, and when it is, is 3 bucks a round compared to the 30 cents I paid for Remington Soft Korlock
Agree. The Carcano round isn't the easiest to find these days. 7.92x57 has gotten pricey besides not as common. ....never mind 7.7x58 Arisaka!!
Mosst of those are good deals and pretty solid picks. I remember getting k98 mausers for $50
I wish
WOW that's the best stock I've ever seen on a Mosin Nagant. My son loves his and can hit with it.
Improvise, adapt, and overcome. The 49s a good weapon haha. Loved the video bro semper fi!
14.08 i think this a very big understatement :) they were so close they fought two wars against each other
Probably the longest of shots, but it would be sweet to see another batch of semi converted famas to come in.
Awesome channel. Glad I subscribed. I currently own three lee enfields. Two ww2 rifles and a carbine with a sheathed bolt from 1896.
The JFK story accusing LHO as the assassin is a huge cover-up!
That mosen nagant is beautiful. Love it
Everyone has the 6.5 Carcano, Mine is a 7.35. Got everything I need to reload it but brass and a bullet mold at this point and have a source for the brass. Also noticed in the WWII selection there were no Arisaka's either type 38 (6.5 ) or Type 99 (7.7). Both were very tough actions and the 7.7 was REAL close to a 30-06.
Also have a Ishapore (sp?) Enfield in my collection (bulldog stock and chambered for 308 from India). Needs a new stock though as the old one has rotted out screw holes.
Got my Mosin last week and traded a old compound bow for it. Best trade ever
Good deal man
No fair!
Best deal I've heard of, great trade. Love my Mosin M91/30. Barrel has been shortened to 16 1/4", beast is super loud, heavy recoil, but is a blast to shoot. Everyone that has shot it wants to buy or trade for it.
Open sights are very accurate,at least the one I had.😊
Lee Enfield mk4 •303. And something I came across only once about 30 years ago, Budapest 9mm bolt action rifle from 1939. It had a kick like a 12g shot gun.
I live vicariously through this channel.
The dude who put that casing on the mas was pretty smart he made it work with what little he had
We run an Honor Guard out of our VFW Post.
All M - 1 Garrands, surplus in original finnish.
Very impressive salute, in squad of 7 , fireing three volleys. 30/06 blanks. Never a dry eye in the crowd.
Years ago I bought a yugo m48...nothing special, but my favorite, none-the-less.
Love my Mosin. Can't believe what they cost now. Also the Enfield is one of the smoothest military rifles I've fired. Wish I had one.
Enfield is a fantastic rifle, grew up shooting them from a early age think around 6 or 7, awesome gun to learn on. Was my fathers service rifle in the South African air force back on 1982.
I just purchased a 1926 Finnish M91 this morning. Beautiful pawn shop score, had no idea what they had on their shelf.
Nice dude! Love when stuff like that happens. You never know that’s why I enjoy just walking in gun stores and pawn shops.
Hey guys why isn't my entries being counted it keeps telling I'm creating tooo many entries to try again later this has happened three days now
When I was in Navy Boot Camp in 1975 (The real Boot Camp - Great Lakes, IL), we would carry and drill with our "pieces" - the '03 Springfield. Naturally, they were rendered inoperable, and were merely for drill. "This is my piece, and this is my gun. One is for drill, and one is for fun!" I really wish I could have taken mine with me when I left G'Lakes, and made it operable again.
2/75 Happy Hour Drill Hall 1000, push ups with fingers correctly placed around stock of 1903 ,if you got caught cheating, DI would step on the stock...OUCH !
Some fun facts about the white death, he used to use a scope, but after he managed to locate and kill a russian sniper by noticing the glare from his scope, he decided to not use a scope again.
He would put snow in his mouth in order to prevent his breath exposing him wile he sits motionless in -40 degrees waiting for the enemy
he survived an explosive bullet to the face, a bullet that wasn't used in WW2 by the Russians because it was deemed too cruel, but the white death got an exception.
he fought russians, not germans.
he is the most prolific sniper who ever lived.
From a fellow Leatherneck, vintage 1964 to 1970, Semper Fi! I fired both the M-14, the standard issue for me; & at ITR, I trained on the M-1. Loved the M-14. Might have liked the M-1 better, except that the ones I trained on were so used (& abused) that it was hard to really enjoy shoot them.
16:51 he fought the Russians, not the Germans 😂 but yes he was a legend
He also shot the Reds, close, using no scope, but didn’t get killed
My favorite surplus rifle is the SKS Type 56. I remember when the MAS 49/56 was available two or three years ago. I wanted to get one, but the timing was not right.
If I'm not mistaken, all surplus Swiss 7.5 ammo is loaded to match spec. My K-31 also had a Swiss soldier's name and address under the butt plate.
As did my K1911, name and address!
7.5x55mm stamped into receiver block...can't locate ammo... seems to have evaporated from gun store shelves...
My favorite (owned) milsurp is also the M1 Garand. The recoil took some time for me to get used to, but it's a great rifle that I enjoy shooting very much.
I am looking for it's younger brother, the M1a, but my state's laws are pretty strict so I'm not sure if that's possible.
Most U.S. Troops in the Spanish American War were armed with .45-70 Trapdoor Springfield rifles (a single shot rifle) which is what was lagging
well, that DSA may not be surplus but the FN/FAL is certainly a classic - that's my pick
My Favorite I was armed with in Japan and Vietnam The M-14 A2 with Auto Selector.On the range I could hit Bulls at 1000 yds in the field up to 750 Yards.Its weight was fine and I liked the 7,62 round we taped two 30 rd Mags Together in opposing directionsand we could really do some damage with it.Single or Auto.The M-1 I had a hard time loading it and I didn't do as well with it on the range at 500yds.The AR-15 Sucked.
M14 had 30 round mags?
Never heard of it.
Nah. Sorry. That is a bruh moment for sure. M14 and variants have a 20 round magazine. Same with the fal.
The K31 is not a Schmidt Ruben. It is a whole separate design. Also, ALL of them have an excellent trigger. The soldier it was issued to should have his name, rank and address on a waterproof tag under the butt plate.
Another reason the Enfield is cock-on-closing is that there is less force required to close the bolt than open it. This is because a fired cartridge has expanded and is tighter in the chamber compared to an unfired cartridge. Trying to open the bolt with a sticky cartridge while simultaneously cocking the firing pin can sometimes make opening the bolt very difficult.
Trick my buddies dad taught me was to cock it from the hip just using your thumb. Tricky at first but once you get it down it is quite fast really.
7 best surplus rifles are the ones you can buy ammo for and are in stock. Can't stand when you guys do daily deals you don't even have in stock!!!!
Well said
K31 or the model M1911 mine is from 1913 yes they still shoot modern smokeless power. And they use a .308 diameter bullet. Yes they all have a two stage trigger.
I never have a mq/K 31 with a bad trigger, I think that how they came from the factory, no need to tinker with the mechanism.
I love using Mas 49 in rising storm 2, that game got to get a SKS, hope I can get the mas 49 and m1 carbine too
I guess.... I'd have to say my favorite "surplus" rifle is my Yugoslavian SKS. because it's the only one I own, but would love an M1, especially if I could get one for $110, like the SKS.
No kidding....care to tell me where SKS's are going for $110 ? Here in the USA any SKS that I'd risk shooting goes for more like three times that.
I want them all.
i had a garand but got rid of it i was bummed when i found out i couldn't hear the ping because of my ear protectors
I have a 1907 swedish mauser, 1943 mosin nagant and 1942 m41 carcano, all in great condition. Next will be an enfield but made in Aus Lithgow version👍
I have two Long Barreled Carcano rifles and LOVE them!
Beautiful rifles
Good stuff.
I'll take the Mosin any day
Bazooka that will never break !
Plus as accurate as the day is long, and the 91/30 I have will shoot through 3/8" steel with regular full metal jacket rounds.
love them
I had the M44 Carbine. Third round of commercial ammo through it shattered the receiver. No injury to me except my pride. Will never touch Russian metallurgy again.
K31 and SKS are excellent choices.
The deal with the Enfield rifle and any other cock-on-closing weapon is that it robs the shooter of the ability to "feel" the cartridge feeding into the chamber, or the alternative which is ability to feel a cartridge jam on closing.
The left arm of the free world would be the 1927 Thompson SMG, being that right handed people are by far the majority naturally, I think that you would want a fully automatic spray and pray weapon. Though there have been lighter SMG platforms out there the best made with the most reliability what is the Thompson. Unless you had a BAR and then you didn’t have to worry about dividing between two weapons
Meh. Trench sweeper was ok. Only 1.2 million made. 225 dollars to produce in ww2 era dollars. Compared to 5.2 million m1s and 85 dollars to produce. And 6.1 million m1 carbines at a cost of 45 dollars each. And the 30 carbine round had a better range. And many m1 carbines were loaned to other countries to use. They are highly prized by our Filipino allies
I love my SKS it is super accurate, and I love the sights as well as any rifle I've ever had. I also own a ruger mini .30 but do not like the older style sights mine has. The never rifles have different sights. Love my 8mm Mauser for bolt action.
Enfield is probably the nicest action.
I really enjoyed this video
I’m a fan of the M1 Carbine
I would have put the M14 in there somewhere. .308 cal., detachable mag. Still, well done, and excellent choices!
They started with the long lee enfields back before the boer war in the 1890's and the brits used them into the 50's at least with line troops.
I have a 1939 Beretta Carcano great gun hardly any recoil and Stinel makes great ammo for most vintage firearms if you are looking.
My Dad was very left handed and fought in the Pacific during WWII. (Philippines, Okinawa and Japan.) He complained that when the M-1 was empty, the clip would fly out and hit him in the face. He preferred the M-1 Carbine because it was shorter and more maneuverable in the jungle and could fire 14 rounds before he needed to reload.
Always wanted an m1 grand
35 years ago I bought a Chinese SKS in a gun shop for $110. bucks! It’s still a great rifle till this day. I actually prefer the SKS to an AK but that’s just my opinion
Left arm hast to be an A2 with a riffle stock, 20” barrel, bayonet, and a steal 20 mag.
Hey there fellas‼️
awesome video‼️
I like the top 7 list
I own a Swiss K31‼️
I agree with Clint on the M1 garand but I really like the mausers
Say it with me: Cavalry. No, Clint you're still saying it wrong. Eat another crayon and try again in an hour.
Ok Phillip
I've been meaning to buy a carcano for home defense, cause if I need to I can extend the bayonet, throw it, and spear someone. Plus the 6.5 has the penetrating power of a sock'em bopper, but the force of a 1993 Tercel.
I have a bolt action Wards Westernfield 22 rifle that must cock on open. It is hard to pull back, but it has a primer type on the back of the bolt to pull out.
Canadian Rangers still used them up on til 10 -12 years ago when them PM Harper got newer bolt action rifles for the far north
My friend used the M1 Garant in the Italian Army back in the 80s