Below you'll find all products I mention in my THOR photomedicine interview with the founder and CEO James Caroll, which includes the NovoTHOR and THOR lasers: ✅ For the NovoTHOR red light therapy bed check this link, as well as NovoTHOR locations across the world: aferg.co/novothor ✅ For the THOR Lasers website, check: aferg.co/thor Also, consider resources mentioned in this video on THOR photomedicine, such as the NovoTHOR and THOR Lasers, as well as other red light therapy resources: ✅ My epic Facebook group on red light therapy and more: aferg.co/fb-group ✅ For the THOR photobiomodulation courses, check this website: aferg.co/thor-courses ✅ Meet me and James Carroll in 2024 in the photobiomodulation event 2024 in London, England, here, by signing up here: pbm2024.com/ ✅ Me testing the Red Med app with a spectrometer and reviewing the app: aferg.co/redmed ✅ UA-cam video of me testing the phone flashlight with a spectrometer: aferg.co/flashlight ✅ Full playlist of my 2022 body panel red light therapy comparison series with all episodes: aferg.co/RLT-2021-playlist - check the summary towards the end if you're short on time ✅ My excel sheet for comparing different panels to their competition: aferg.co/rlt-data ✅ For my red light therapy buyer's guide blog, follow this link: aferg.co/RLTguide ✅ My red light testing methodology video: aferg.co/rlt-testing-method
I really enjoyed this interview with Mr Caroll. He's interesting for big-picture, PBM industry knowledge. Learning about that will help me make a better purchase decision for my at-home treatment equipment. I appreciate you bringing your viewers along your quest to learn about PBM and red light therapy. This interview had a lot of substance. Spending additional time with Mr Caroll to dive deeper into specific topics would be nice. (I've never considered reflection) I like your personal testing of equipment, but there's also an intellectual bonus for your viewers when you interview these experts in the PBM field. It's gives us access to this subject in ways the regular person would never have. Keep on researching.... I want to continue to learn more! Thank you.
Hey, yes he is a great guy and I was so fortunate to be able to speak to him for so long. I will do my best to keep learning and sharing as much as I can with you all. I have another great interview coming out this week as well, so stay tuned for that :)
Given the amount of light reflected off the skin (60-70%), would it then be better to have devices immediately on the skin so that the light has fewer directions to reflect to?
Actually, more like 70% - 80% (@ 32:50 time stamp of the video) and I believe it to be closer to 90% and above for open light panels. While watching the interview I was hoping questions relating to the information Mr. Carroll was referring would be asked so it could be correlated to open LED panels. Hopefully in a follow-up interview :)
Hey yes this is something I'm planning on exploring more. What I know is that myself and 100's (even 1000's) of others are having tremendous benefits by using a panel at say 6-12 inches. But of course this doesn't mean that it's better to have the light away from the skin. And then could you simply just stand closer to the panel and have the lights hard up agaisnt the body to minimise reflection anyway? Lots to explore here. When I have a better understanding I will do a video on it.
great interview with probably the most knowledgeable person in Red Light therapy.. I would love to see more videos with James Carroll. You are lucky to get this interview we are lucky to be able to watch it I have already shared it.
Such a fascinating interview. I feel blessed that I have access to a NovoThor locally, and while the typical setting is for 16 min, I've gotten the facility I use to increase my session to 20 minutes, so was great to hear James say he uses the booth for 20 minutes. Sadly, I am definitely not able to use the bed every single day (cost prohibitive). I will however continue to integrate the NovoThor into my usage even as I build out a home system. I was glad to hear James discuss the cumulative benefit of RLT.
Yeah I want to know more about this as well :) I'm going to do some research and ask some questions and even try some experiments. I will release a video when I have more : )
Exceptional interview. So much more to dive into - if there are 30 minutes sprints. I think it would be helpful to gain deeper understanding how (dosing, wavelengths and treatment times) helps both as a preventative / aging solution (e.g., stem cell production) and for recovery following surgery or trauma. Also interested in how it’s being used as a complementary to other therapies such as methylene blue for brain health. Curious as to what wavelength he’s using for his helmet.
I watched this for a second time to let information land better. So much good information. I would really like to see you and James do a targeted video on dosing. Thank you for all the great content you create and the articles you offer on your website.
In your previous video, "Mask VS Panel", my statement of 90% - 95% skin reflection losses was directed at open LED panels specifically, as you also have light divergence. Devices like James Carrolls therapy bed reflect the light back and forth and I assume there are less losses with that device when compared to an open panel, and devices that are positioned directly on the skin, especially lasers, which their light is 'in-phase' and not divergent, would have lower skin reflection losses. In this video interview with James Carroll, he corroborates this with his statement of 70% - 80% skin reflection, (@ 32:50 timing point in the video and other places) which I'm assuming was from the device being measured at/near the surface of the skin. I was surprised at that point in the video/interview, that you did not ask him more questions about skin reflection, as it relates to open LED panels, that is one of the most important things that is needed to know about light panels. Most viewers of your videos use light panels, at your recommendation, for years... and most all of your previous videos are about light panels and these panels are a huge investment. I know, as I have (8) 12"x36" panels and (2) 12"x20" panels, plus an assortment of pads. It would be very much appreciative if in your interviews and more videos that the material and questioning could be also directed specifically for open LED light panels. These videos are great and informative, but without any reference at how it relates to panels, we are just spinning our wheels and guessing at best and proper use. Very much looking forward to a follow-up video with James Carroll and future videos with other subject matter experts.
Hey, sorry for the late response. I was away for 2 weeks, and fell so behind in my emails and YT comments. Yeah the bed does a great job of 'trapping' that light, which is something I hadn't really thought about until he shared his numbers in this interview. I also recently interviewed Dr Randy Beck (interview will be up next week) and he was a big proponent of lasers over LEDs for the reason you mentioned above. I'm going to chat to James again and dive more into this skin reflection topic - as yes it is a potential game changer in terms of optimum products. Maybe these lower powered LED mats for instance are going to provide much better value? I do know though, that I and many others have had amazing results with LED panels - but still, if we're paying extra for something that we dont' need then of course this needs to be made clear. I need to learn more myself before I can make suggestions like that. Stay tuned, I will be exploring this in more detail :)
What about creating an angled reflective box around LED light panels? The cheap way would be to cover cardboard in foil. Or buy several car windshield silver covers?
I loved this! I'd be very interested in those segmental sessions. The topic I'd most like to know more about is dosing. I was surprised to find out that even if the j/cm2 is the same, the effect varies widely according to the irradiance. Another topic I'd be really interested in is using red light for anti-aging. I don't want to sound vain, but it's actually the primary reason I bought my panel, and James just got my hopes up even more by telling us how his red light routine has stopped his hair falling out or going grey. He looks amazing too. I wish I had a NovoTHOR at home.
For a therapeutic dose of between 60-80 joules, my timing and distance is around 378-438 seconds depending on whether 6” or 12” away from Biomax 900 panel. Around 6-7 minutes range per area. Couldn’t determine whether this interview contradicted or confirmed a similar protocol.
Fantastic interview, Alex! I look forward to more of them with James. Are you able to provide a link to where I could find the Monte Carlo Modeling based study with the thigh tissue where James mentions 63% of 850nm reflected directly off of the skin?
Great vid! Thanks! I'm interested in replies from anyone on 2 things: 1) I can buy a full body length panel from Hooga with only 2 wavelengths for much less than an equivalent size/# of LEDs from Mitored or PlatinumLED which have 4 or 5 wavelengths. There's a big price difference. The size for full body radiation (to save time) and cost are important to me, so I'm leaning towards the Hooga, but maybe that would be a mistake (to miss out on the other wavelengths). 2) MitoRed and Hooga both sell smaller panels that can be modularly combined... OR they also sell XL panels for about the same price as the combined cost of the smaller panels. Any advice on which size to go with if I intend to buy them all at once? Maybe the smaller ones are safer in shipping? Or if one breaks, then the entire panel does not break (breaks from normal use, not physical damage) unlike if the XL panel breaks, then the whole thing may be useless. What are some of the advantages of the XL panels versus several modular panels arranged together, besides looking better? Also, seems like 3rd party stands are better than any of those from these redlight companies. Would like a stand that can swivel/rotate from vertical to horizontal instead of requiring choosing an orientation that takes time and effort to change.
Hey, 1) If cost is the limiting factor - go with Hooga. Sure you may miss out on a few bells and whistles but the extra size and lower price point are priority here. 2) The smaller ones are easier to deal with freight wise and also handling/setup etc. BUT the larger ones as easier to setup and do have a better light coverage area. If you can afford it, just go with one giant one. You also have less 'gaps' in the light. Have a look at this: ua-cam.com/video/g0uZ-prIvPc/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/uBJGcdxINU8/v-deo.html If you find a 3rd party stand that works and is cheaper then yeah run with that :)
I would like his opinion on the safety of using Red Light Therapy if you have a cancerous tumor. I’d like to purchase a device for my daughter who has a “controlled” brain tumor….not for the tumor but for the other benefits. I have read conflicting opinions about RLT causing tumors to grow.
Hey, yes. Watch this - ua-cam.com/video/7TYWriLoY2k/v-deo.html this - ua-cam.com/video/9Nw5Abb2h4E/v-deo.html and this - ua-cam.com/video/tIW95HQuncg/v-deo.html
Great interview, Alex! I learned a lot and have more questions than before, too. Some of them, the open panel that reflects less light; , so we have to exposure more time? pulsing vs continuous light; a topic I would like with him, is all about treatments with home panel devices (Opinions, time exposure for skin or therapeutic issues, reflection, etc). Thanks
I just got off the phone to James. we are arranging something for the coming months. But I did manage to film a short promo video for his event in August (www.pbm2024.com/) so keep an eye out for that video later this week.
Below you'll find all products I mention in my THOR photomedicine interview with the founder and CEO James Caroll, which includes the NovoTHOR and THOR lasers:
✅ For the NovoTHOR red light therapy bed check this link, as well as NovoTHOR locations across the world: aferg.co/novothor
✅ For the THOR Lasers website, check: aferg.co/thor
Also, consider resources mentioned in this video on THOR photomedicine, such as the NovoTHOR and THOR Lasers, as well as other red light therapy resources:
✅ My epic Facebook group on red light therapy and more: aferg.co/fb-group
✅ For the THOR photobiomodulation courses, check this website: aferg.co/thor-courses
✅ Meet me and James Carroll in 2024 in the photobiomodulation event 2024 in London, England, here, by signing up here: pbm2024.com/
✅ Me testing the Red Med app with a spectrometer and reviewing the app: aferg.co/redmed
✅ UA-cam video of me testing the phone flashlight with a spectrometer: aferg.co/flashlight
✅ Full playlist of my 2022 body panel red light therapy comparison series with all episodes: aferg.co/RLT-2021-playlist - check the summary towards the end if you're short on time
✅ My excel sheet for comparing different panels to their competition: aferg.co/rlt-data
✅ For my red light therapy buyer's guide blog, follow this link: aferg.co/RLTguide
✅ My red light testing methodology video: aferg.co/rlt-testing-method
James is certainly knowledgeable and generous with his time. More segments would certainly be appreciated. Thanks Alex
I'll work on making this happen!
EXCELLENT Alex!!!!
Thank you :)
I really enjoyed this interview with Mr Caroll. He's interesting for big-picture, PBM industry knowledge. Learning about that will help me make a better purchase decision for my at-home treatment equipment.
I appreciate you bringing your viewers along your quest to learn about PBM and red light therapy. This interview had a lot of substance. Spending additional time with Mr Caroll to dive deeper into specific topics would be nice. (I've never considered reflection)
I like your personal testing of equipment, but there's also an intellectual bonus for your viewers when you interview these experts in the PBM field. It's gives us access to this subject in ways the regular person would never have. Keep on researching.... I want to continue to learn more!
Thank you.
Hey, yes he is a great guy and I was so fortunate to be able to speak to him for so long.
I will do my best to keep learning and sharing as much as I can with you all.
I have another great interview coming out this week as well, so stay tuned for that :)
Given the amount of light reflected off the skin (60-70%), would it then be better to have devices immediately on the skin so that the light has fewer directions to reflect to?
Actually, more like 70% - 80% (@ 32:50 time stamp of the video) and I believe it to be closer to 90% and above for open light panels.
While watching the interview I was hoping questions relating to the information Mr. Carroll was referring would be asked so it could be correlated to open LED panels.
Hopefully in a follow-up interview :)
Hey yes this is something I'm planning on exploring more. What I know is that myself and 100's (even 1000's) of others are having tremendous benefits by using a panel at say 6-12 inches. But of course this doesn't mean that it's better to have the light away from the skin. And then could you simply just stand closer to the panel and have the lights hard up agaisnt the body to minimise reflection anyway?
Lots to explore here. When I have a better understanding I will do a video on it.
Yep I'm planning on doing more sit down chats with James so this is something i will be covering for sure!!
Around 8 weeks of Biomax 900, grey hair spots are returning to normal color. Took some time but definitely improving.
Wow!
Red light deduces oxidative stress that’s why you have your normal hair back.
Whoa that is awesome!! I have a few greys unfortunately. But then the stress in my life right now is sky high!!
one of ur best videos. thank u
Thank you :)
This was my first ever live 'in person' recording. So it's nice hearing the positive feedback :) I have a lot to improve on though.
great interview with probably the most knowledgeable person in Red Light therapy..
I would love to see more videos with James Carroll.
You are lucky to get this interview
we are lucky to be able to watch it
I have already shared it.
Thank you!
Wow, so much info
Amazing huh!
Great interview to watch, thanks for sharing James and Alex!
Thanks Liam. Your turn next :D
Such a fascinating interview. I feel blessed that I have access to a NovoThor locally, and while the typical setting is for 16 min, I've gotten the facility I use to increase my session to 20 minutes, so was great to hear James say he uses the booth for 20 minutes. Sadly, I am definitely not able to use the bed every single day (cost prohibitive). I will however continue to integrate the NovoThor into my usage even as I build out a home system. I was glad to hear James discuss the cumulative benefit of RLT.
Oh wow lucky you!! How many sessions a week do you do? And how expensive are the sessions?
just got to say I love your presentation/interview style
I appreciate that!
Great interview. But I need more info on the light not penetrating. I hope you do a follow up. This is serious!
Hey, yes I will be doing more with James. Stay tuned :)
Curious how effective panels actually are (even at 6 inches) if Red /Infrared reflects as much as he claims. Thoughts?
Same. Would like to know this as well!
I would like to know as well!!
Yeah I want to know more about this as well :) I'm going to do some research and ask some questions and even try some experiments. I will release a video when I have more : )
Awesome, thanks Alex! Look forward to seeing your research/findings and related follow-up video.
Great interview
Exceptional interview. So much more to dive into - if there are 30 minutes sprints. I think it would be helpful to gain deeper understanding how (dosing, wavelengths and treatment times) helps both as a preventative / aging solution (e.g., stem cell production) and for recovery following surgery or trauma. Also interested in how it’s being used as a complementary to other therapies such as methylene blue for brain health. Curious as to what wavelength he’s using for his helmet.
Hey, yes so much more to learn. I'm going to make sure we can get more great content out in the coming months! Stay tuned :)
I watched this for a second time to let information land better. So much good information. I would really like to see you and James do a targeted video on dosing. Thank you for all the great content you create and the articles you offer on your website.
Thanks!! Yes I will be doing follow up videos with James soon. You may enjoy this video as well - ua-cam.com/video/_rs4wMJSDrk/v-deo.html
In your previous video, "Mask VS Panel", my statement of 90% - 95% skin reflection losses was directed at open LED panels specifically, as you also have light divergence. Devices like James Carrolls therapy bed reflect the light back and forth and I assume there are less losses with that device when compared to an open panel, and devices that are positioned directly on the skin, especially lasers, which their light is 'in-phase' and not divergent, would have lower skin reflection losses.
In this video interview with James Carroll, he corroborates this with his statement of 70% - 80% skin reflection, (@ 32:50 timing point in the video and other places) which I'm assuming was from the device being measured at/near the surface of the skin.
I was surprised at that point in the video/interview, that you did not ask him more questions about skin reflection, as it relates to open LED panels, that is one of the most important things that is needed to know about light panels.
Most viewers of your videos use light panels, at your recommendation, for years... and most all of your previous videos are about light panels and these panels are a huge investment. I know, as I have (8) 12"x36" panels and (2) 12"x20" panels, plus an assortment of pads. It would be very much appreciative if in your interviews and more videos that the material and questioning could be also directed specifically for open LED light panels.
These videos are great and informative, but without any reference at how it relates to panels, we are just spinning our wheels and guessing at best and proper use.
Very much looking forward to a follow-up video with James Carroll and future videos with other subject matter experts.
Hey, sorry for the late response. I was away for 2 weeks, and fell so behind in my emails and YT comments.
Yeah the bed does a great job of 'trapping' that light, which is something I hadn't really thought about until he shared his numbers in this interview.
I also recently interviewed Dr Randy Beck (interview will be up next week) and he was a big proponent of lasers over LEDs for the reason you mentioned above.
I'm going to chat to James again and dive more into this skin reflection topic - as yes it is a potential game changer in terms of optimum products. Maybe these lower powered LED mats for instance are going to provide much better value?
I do know though, that I and many others have had amazing results with LED panels - but still, if we're paying extra for something that we dont' need then of course this needs to be made clear. I need to learn more myself before I can make suggestions like that.
Stay tuned, I will be exploring this in more detail :)
What about creating an angled reflective box around LED light panels? The cheap way would be to cover cardboard in foil. Or buy several car windshield silver covers?
I loved this! I'd be very interested in those segmental sessions. The topic I'd most like to know more about is dosing. I was surprised to find out that even if the j/cm2 is the same, the effect varies widely according to the irradiance. Another topic I'd be really interested in is using red light for anti-aging. I don't want to sound vain, but it's actually the primary reason I bought my panel, and James just got my hopes up even more by telling us how his red light routine has stopped his hair falling out or going grey. He looks amazing too. I wish I had a NovoTHOR at home.
Great I will definitely explore this topics with him!
For a therapeutic dose of between 60-80 joules, my timing and distance is around 378-438 seconds depending on whether 6” or 12” away from Biomax 900 panel. Around 6-7 minutes range per area. Couldn’t determine whether this interview contradicted or confirmed a similar protocol.
Ahh dosing protocols does my head in. I was hoping to get to the bottom of it by interviewing James... unfortunately I'm more confused!
Fantastic interview, Alex! I look forward to more of them with James. Are you able to provide a link to where I could find the Monte Carlo Modeling based study with the thigh tissue where James mentions 63% of 850nm reflected directly off of the skin?
Hey thanks! I'll ask James for more links when I chat to him next :)
My healthcare provider uses the beds and lasers in rehab.
Great products.
Thames is quite respectable to be so honest about studies and results that gives no answers.
Agreed! Great guy
Good discussion. Can you do a follow up and ask about EMF’s being that the person is lying directly on bed?
Glad you enjoyed it. Great questions, too!
Could you tell at what minute he talks about the blue light killing cells? I cant seem to find it
Great vid! Thanks! I'm interested in replies from anyone on 2 things:
1) I can buy a full body length panel from Hooga with only 2 wavelengths for much less than an equivalent size/# of LEDs from Mitored or PlatinumLED which have 4 or 5 wavelengths. There's a big price difference. The size for full body radiation (to save time) and cost are important to me, so I'm leaning towards the Hooga, but maybe that would be a mistake (to miss out on the other wavelengths).
2) MitoRed and Hooga both sell smaller panels that can be modularly combined... OR they also sell XL panels for about the same price as the combined cost of the smaller panels. Any advice on which size to go with if I intend to buy them all at once? Maybe the smaller ones are safer in shipping? Or if one breaks, then the entire panel does not break (breaks from normal use, not physical damage) unlike if the XL panel breaks, then the whole thing may be useless. What are some of the advantages of the XL panels versus several modular panels arranged together, besides looking better? Also, seems like 3rd party stands are better than any of those from these redlight companies. Would like a stand that can swivel/rotate from vertical to horizontal instead of requiring choosing an orientation that takes time and effort to change.
Hey,
1) If cost is the limiting factor - go with Hooga. Sure you may miss out on a few bells and whistles but the extra size and lower price point are priority here.
2) The smaller ones are easier to deal with freight wise and also handling/setup etc. BUT the larger ones as easier to setup and do have a better light coverage area. If you can afford it, just go with one giant one. You also have less 'gaps' in the light.
Have a look at this:
ua-cam.com/video/g0uZ-prIvPc/v-deo.html and
ua-cam.com/video/uBJGcdxINU8/v-deo.html
If you find a 3rd party stand that works and is cheaper then yeah run with that :)
Brain Photobiomodulation
Does Red Light Therapy fade or affect tattoos?
I would like his opinion on the safety of using Red Light Therapy if you have a cancerous tumor. I’d like to purchase a device for my daughter who has a “controlled” brain tumor….not for the tumor but for the other benefits. I have read conflicting opinions about RLT causing tumors to grow.
Hey, I'll be sure to ask James when I speak to him next. I would be doing a lot of research before using RLT on cancer though.
Can it reverse wrinkles? Ok I will watch the video
Hey, yes.
Watch this - ua-cam.com/video/7TYWriLoY2k/v-deo.html
this - ua-cam.com/video/9Nw5Abb2h4E/v-deo.html
and this - ua-cam.com/video/tIW95HQuncg/v-deo.html
Great interview, Alex! I learned a lot and have more questions than before, too. Some of them, the open panel that reflects less light; , so we have to exposure more time? pulsing vs continuous light; a topic I would like with him, is all about treatments with home panel devices (Opinions, time exposure for skin or therapeutic issues, reflection, etc). Thanks
Hey, yes me to!! I'm going to be working with James on these new topics. Stay tuned for those videos :)
No follow up interviews?
I just got off the phone to James.
we are arranging something for the coming months. But I did manage to film a short promo video for his event in August (www.pbm2024.com/) so keep an eye out for that video later this week.
What's the bottom line regarding developing protocols for home use devices??
What do you mean by 'developing protocols' for home use devices? Do you mean protocols on a manufacturing side?
Is Red Light Therapy a bad idea for someone who has C*ncer? Will it promote C*ncer stem cells growth? Or is it a health benefit?
Good question and this is above my pay grade so I won't be able to answer it i'm sorry. Definitely speak with your specialist first.