How Sonic Prime Deconstructs Tails

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  • @ixiahj
    @ixiahj Рік тому +231

    Nine doesn't believe people are inherently bad. He believes he doesn't owe anyone anything. To me he's like a wandering warrior that travels through a town being attacked by bandits. The warrior asked the bandits for safe passage but the bandits refused and attacked the warrior. So the warrior dispatched the bandits, saving the towns folk. The towns folk thanked the warrior calling him their hero. But the warrior said he didn't come there to save anyone. He's only wanted safe passage but the bandits were in the way. Nine doesn't think ill of anyone. He's just so self sufficient that he doesn't need anyone.

    • @talonsandtails501
      @talonsandtails501 Рік тому +33

      Man you phrased it perfectly! I love his logical no nonsense attitude. A lot of edgy characters just get randomly offended to create conflict but I like how nine pays attention to context, like when he gets triggered and attacks Sonic when he calls him “tails,” but after he learns of Sonics background we don’t see him get angry about it again because he understands tails isn’t an insult, just how Sonic knew him.
      I also love how he doesn’t feel sorry for himself. What I hate about token edgy characters is that they always seem to be moaning about horrible their life was ohhh pity me getting all broody for no reason. I like how the nines only dramatic moment was when he was fighting sonic, which made sense since he was triggered, but other than when he mentions wanting to make a new world, he doesnt randomly go into monologues about how awful his life is which is such a breath of fresh air for me. I also like how he doesn’t let his emotions take priority. It’s good how in society we’re learning to be more in tune with our emotions, but I feel like a lot of media uses it to justify certain actions that are just wrong so I also love seeing nine act on what’s best in the moment rather than what he personally feels

    • @mejibray_x
      @mejibray_x Рік тому +12

      @@talonsandtails501 I heavily agree. Nine's a character who you don't need a fucking master's degree in psychology to understand and it's great. The fact that he grew attached to sonic so quickly despite everything is heartbreakingingly wholesome.
      Plus, he's...very hard to read. Which is a good thing. I cannot wait to see where the writers take his arc next. I wouldn't mind him becoming a potential antagonist because honestly? He deserves it.

    • @talonsandtails501
      @talonsandtails501 Рік тому +4

      @@mejibray_x I personally really hope he doesn’t become the antagonist. It honestly kind of feels like a waste to just make him a bad guy because he has so much potential as a morally grey hero. It just feels lazy to me to make the troubled kid the villain.
      At worst I think he’ll be some kind of temporary anti hero. He clearly doesn’t want to help the chaos council, and if he does it’s only because he was forced to, but he’s not on the friendliest terms with Sonic at the moment. We might also get an episode of sonic trying to make up for leaving him behind and nine just trying to get him to go away. It’s clearly shown nine thinks Sonic abandoned him on purpose, but I can’t see nine as wanting to get revenge for it. He’s a guy who just wants to be left alone in peace, so I can see him trying to just distance himself from Sonic after that. It’d be a wholesome episode to see sonic try and earn his trust back.

    • @mejibray_x
      @mejibray_x Рік тому +2

      @@talonsandtails501 Yeah that's what I meant. I should've worded that better but I have so much trouble putting my thoughts into words. 💀 Otherwise, It's really cool how much debt there is to him in just only eight episodes.
      I do hope he has a redemption arc if he goes through the anti-hero route.

    • @thestockimagequeen
      @thestockimagequeen  Рік тому +7

      Y’all I’m loving this thread; I’d absolutely LOVE for Nine to have an anti hero/antagonist moment fr😍I think doing that and then giving him a redemption arc would be extremely interesting and powerful.

  • @tailedgates9
    @tailedgates9 Рік тому +44

    Nine to me is one of the best examples of a neutral character I've ever seen. He doesn't want to save people, but he doesn't want to rule over anything. Dude just wants to be alone and be left to his work. He's a true introvert, which I most definitely identify with. Lol

  • @josecuestas7246
    @josecuestas7246 Рік тому +19

    Nine and Mangey are like the "Pokemon Paradox" versions of Tails:
    - Nine is the future version
    - Mangey is the past version

  • @tweedlebug123
    @tweedlebug123 Рік тому +155

    Love how you included Sails is this dissertation, and you pointed out how each of these lovely alts can be a facet of Tails' personality that's not often explored. It's amazing.

    • @thestockimagequeen
      @thestockimagequeen  Рік тому +24

      Haha I couldn’t not include Sails, he’s iconic haha. Thank you for watching, I appreciate it loads :)

    • @brandonfrazee2473
      @brandonfrazee2473 Рік тому +4

      Bad news, to tell you the truth, Tails (along with Nine, Mangey and Sails), aren't my favorite character(s). In fact, just in character, my favorite character is Sonic. Because he's blue, which is my favorite color. But at least he's my style, if you know what I mean. But the good news, is that I really do adore him much, due to his cuteness. Of course, in my opinion, Tails (along with Nine, Mangey and Sails) are the number one cutest characters. I also love him much as a brother, but that doesn't mean he's my character, like I mentioned before since Sonic is my favorite character. Hope you understand. Also, Cosmo? Is that really you? How is your sister Galaxina? OH! And your mother Earthia? And your other siblings? Hope they are okay out there. I'm glad those Metarex are defeated. OH! And by the way, did you miss my little buddy Tails? He miss you too. Sad, really. But at least you two had some great adventures, and maybe great discoveries. For some reason, my heart always warmed up when you two had great romantic moments. Hope I said it well. Nice to meet you again Cosmo! ☺

    • @Blade1515
      @Blade1515 Рік тому +1

      One thing though, what’s the last version of tails gonna be like

    • @ThePinkBlurSonicFan
      @ThePinkBlurSonicFan Рік тому

      This is what I was thinking too when I saw Sonic Prime like how the alternative versions of everyone Sonic meets are a piece of their personality

  • @adamevers1831
    @adamevers1831 Рік тому +51

    Nine is quickly becoming a fan favourite.

  • @RedDragonForce2
    @RedDragonForce2 Рік тому +26

    Sonic Prime shows us a Multiverse without Sonic. But it’s also without Shadow, since we never saw any alternate versions of Shadow either.
    This is definitely something to consider when doing Rouge’s character.

  • @Thepeopleinmybrainloveyou
    @Thepeopleinmybrainloveyou Рік тому +11

    "Just call them brothers already"
    FELT

  • @Admiralgrusbil
    @Admiralgrusbil Рік тому +25

    My first impression on these are Nine is what happens when Tails only ever experienced abuse from others and thus trusts no one, Mangey is what you get when it's all about survival, and sails seems to have had good people around him but not to the extent where he became dependable thus seeming fairly normal.

  • @TheEternalSamurai
    @TheEternalSamurai Рік тому +68

    Wow! What a gr8 analysis. Tails is my most fav male Sonic character.
    Nine was the side of Tails that stuck out the most to me, because his character showed what he was like when he was deprived of friendship, something we all instinctively need.

  • @CoolDudeClem
    @CoolDudeClem Рік тому +18

    Nine is one of the most relatable characters, or al least to me. bullied in the past, and living alone with no friends and thinking very low of other people.

    • @JabamiLain
      @JabamiLain Рік тому

      I don't even think bullying is needed. Just see the world around you and bum ! You're traumatized.

  • @devinsauls9137
    @devinsauls9137 Рік тому +25

    You don't think the Paradox Prism is the representation of one's most inner thoughts?

  • @andrewgreeb916
    @andrewgreeb916 Рік тому +15

    Has anybody explored the part about nines arms being able to stretch to unrealistic proportions?
    Nine is probably going to be the most plot relevant version of tails, since he actually has a grasp of the shatterverse.

  • @AgentExeider
    @AgentExeider Рік тому +10

    I agree with your assessment of Nine, and that's also why I suspect he may become a on-off again antagonist, not so much villainous like Robotnik but clearly out for his own ends. The issue is he also shows off some villainous traits, like the fact he feels no loyalty to anyone, he uses people for his own ends (though he does feel bad about it) and the fact he wants to remake a dimension/planet in the shatterverse to his vision (which is generally the first and primary motivation for any villain.) I feel that Nine represents a superposition of Sonic and Robotnik, in that Nine given the right (or wrong) push can fall to either side. I would love if Robotnik decides to take him under his wing. I've always felt in recent media for Sonic, that Tails and Robotnik have alot of similarities and if not for the fact they are supposed to be enemies, they would infact get along. I would find it rather satisfying if Robotnik at least tries to become a father figure to Nine, acting as the Demon to Sonic's angel, each side tempting and pushing Nine until he's forced to make a choice. _"Do I become a hero or a villain?"_ Since this isn't canon tails but a variant (to use Loki's TV series terms) they actually could have Nine fall to the "dark side" and it be ok, since it would all get reset if and when the universe gets put back together again. Plus Sonic would know that his friend is capable of these things and something to watch out for.

  • @coolychaotix90
    @coolychaotix90 10 місяців тому +3

    0:48 “but he’s not quite a villain either. . .” Season 3: am I a joke to you?

  • @chi-wind8593
    @chi-wind8593 Рік тому +25

    Sonic prime has a great start I can’t wait to see we’re it goes next. Excellent analysis as always.👍

  • @x.spinexx.x7638
    @x.spinexx.x7638 Рік тому +35

    Amazing video per usual legend! The way you delved into everyone was amazing and so in depth and I’m so excited to see how these ideas are further explored in the next half of the season! Incredible job as always queen!

    • @thestockimagequeen
      @thestockimagequeen  Рік тому +2

      THANK YOU LEGEND I love you so much, I’m glad you liked the video! :))

  • @Miles_Prower1992
    @Miles_Prower1992 Рік тому +10

    I don't think that anybody is going to disagree with me saying that mangey is frickin adorable.

  • @lAlwaysHopel
    @lAlwaysHopel Рік тому +4

    How Sonic Prime makes Tails(Nine) as the reliable side-kick and fix the character.

  • @Jamfrog35
    @Jamfrog35 11 місяців тому +1

    "Nine is not evil" yeah...about that

  • @fanix9989
    @fanix9989 Рік тому +12

    Great video! You gave especially an interesting interpretation of Nine's confidence.

  • @PBromide
    @PBromide 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for this, I really like and agree with your analysis! It's interesting to see that even without Sonic in his worst timeline, Tails finds a way to be resilient. None of the four Tails are 'perfect' - maybe Sails is the most well-rounded, but we also see little of him. Prime Tails probably has more interior conflict, even in Green Hill, than we give him credit for.
    I think the little bit in the beginning where Tails is warning Sonic to not hit the Eggman robot and Sonic does it anyway and Tails looks upset is a hint that their relationship, while happy, does involve a certain amount of Tails suppressing disappointment. And the Nine-Sonic relationship shows what happens when he doesn’t suppress that disappointment - he reverts to prioritizing nothing but self-preservation. Green Hills Tails may feel disappointed by Sonic at times, but he prioritizes his relationship with the group, so he knows that disappointments are a thing that will happen.
    This is a bit disorganized and just a stream of consciousness, but you gave a fair amount to think about! Would love to see more stuff from you in the future ^^

  • @CatrinaisHere
    @CatrinaisHere Рік тому +8

    In my opinion, i think that in the next batch of episodes, we need to see Tails anxiety side. We do explore this partly in the games but not Sonic Prime. I think it would a cool aspect. Idk?

    • @thestockimagequeen
      @thestockimagequeen  Рік тому +3

      Ooh I completely agree! His anxiety is definitely a core part of his character and I’d love to see them explore it!

  • @gachaevery
    @gachaevery Рік тому +30

    Mangey is more childlike without the shame of expressing it while the real Tails seems more mature despite his young looking age
    And Mangey's first sign of maturity could be the part when he learns how to fly! It's literally like as in the baby's first steps, oh my stars :000
    but eh, probably not either, I overanalyze too TvT

  • @sonc_skyy
    @sonc_skyy Рік тому +3

    i love this video sm as a hardcore nine kinnie; he's been my #1 favorite character from the start (ever since the trailer first came out, he caught my eye lol) and u did an amazing job analyzing him (and mangey and sails too) :D
    i hate how some people that i've seen on twitter don't really pay attention to his character and just label him the "edgy version of tails" without looking more into why he is the way he is

  • @justalpha9138
    @justalpha9138 Рік тому +6

    I. Love. Nine. So. Much! Ahhh! He was my favorite character in this series by MILES, and I really cannot wait to see where his arc will go from here! :D

  • @TheOtherOne199
    @TheOtherOne199 Рік тому +2

    Honesty when I first saw Mangey
    I thought about the time when my sister who has autism was younger and non-verble
    I don't think Tails is autistic but that's what I thought
    I also think what you said about Tails wishing for childhood and stuff is a valid idea for what Mangey represents

  • @JabamiLain
    @JabamiLain Рік тому +7

    I always enjoyed the contrast between innocence and efficiency... Perhaps I should give this show a try... Let's see how Nine conquers my interest. Tails caught it because he's looks like a fun prey to play with. But Nine is no prey. Yet that doesn't mean he can't show me how he plays.

  • @matthewisguy7336
    @matthewisguy7336 6 місяців тому

    I love the chaos island 6th movement remix you chose for the background. I love that specific song so much.

  • @alwayssleepy2476
    @alwayssleepy2476 Рік тому +2

    Wow genuinely fascinating video, tbh it’s kind of surprising how much Sonic prime deconstructs the characters through out the first season. Great video!

  • @JabamiLain
    @JabamiLain Рік тому +4

    I am SO obessessed with deconstruction. And this show appears to execute this practice perfectly.

  • @PaulNat360
    @PaulNat360 Рік тому +2

    Nine was a brilliant idea.

  • @SsjkidsSaveCosmo08
    @SsjkidsSaveCosmo08 Рік тому +6

    I was so ready to see you go crazy about nine or as I like to call him nine tails

    • @thestockimagequeen
      @thestockimagequeen  Рік тому +6

      Haha I couldn’t not go crazy about him, he’s already so iconic

  • @RetkiEmi
    @RetkiEmi Рік тому +2

    great analysis, i love tails and how he's becoming more important over time as he should have since sa2

  • @tuumef1799
    @tuumef1799 Рік тому

    Interesting take. I enjoy how each Tails is reflective of their circumstances and their response to them.

  • @cofagrigusfan24
    @cofagrigusfan24 Рік тому +4

    hold on
    Nine didn't travel through time
    he traveled through the Shatterverse
    the Shatterverse is a void that once was Sonic's World, but after he shattered the Paradox Prism, reality split into several pocket dimensions, or Shatter Spaces
    they aren't different points in time, but rather different realities effected by the power of the shards

    • @emanuelsantos5687
      @emanuelsantos5687 10 місяців тому

      actually the void isn't sonic's universe is his own thing the void wasn't made by the prism breaking it already existed before sonic broke the prism

  • @sonicrocks2007
    @sonicrocks2007 Рік тому +3

    Going back to Sonic Adventures 1 and 2 Tails is crazy.
    He beats Sonic in Race. He creates fake chaos emeralds to trick people and be used. His tech is crazy. He is also independent enough to fight Eggman on his own and win. I would argue his mech that transforms show more mastery machanic engineering Etc so the series has gone reversed a lot of Tails development. I hope we can get to the point again where Tails is able to beat Sonic and Eggman and be their true peers instead of a lackey to Sonic.

  • @InkyWinkDink
    @InkyWinkDink Рік тому +1

    "He's not a hero in this world, but he's not quite a villian."
    I kinda describe anti-heros like this. Kinda just in the middle, but more closer to a hero.
    He does bad things, but only for good reasons.

    • @thestockimagequeen
      @thestockimagequeen  Рік тому

      I would agree that he’s def an anti hero; I can’t wait to see what they do with him in part 2!

  • @ИванГанев-к4н
    @ИванГанев-к4н Рік тому +1

    I see it again. It explains Where was my Hero, Requitails, And Tails Secret Diary (I saw that and well... It was Other solutions about that but in any angle wierd but broke the morality and victims of betrayed trust and hiding secret)
    and even the twisted Secret History

  • @octofox0625
    @octofox0625 Рік тому +1

    That's my favourite fox, also I never knew that thanks for making this vidoo

  • @aanimation4892
    @aanimation4892 Рік тому +14

    That was a great analyse ! And for being honest... I almost cry🥲 ... This video was steel great! ✌️🙂

  • @ironhide_editzCr7prime
    @ironhide_editzCr7prime Рік тому +7

    Ok
    Your mad underrated

  • @ajanimation4012
    @ajanimation4012 Рік тому +2

    This video was amazing I feel my brain is torne apart but it was an amazing video!!!

  • @alessandromartinez2352
    @alessandromartinez2352 Рік тому

    I love the theories you make of the alternate versions of tails in Sonic prime

  • @Blake-kr6pd
    @Blake-kr6pd Рік тому +1

    Also something I realized, since sonic didnt exist he couldn't have saved Amy from Metal Sonic and that's how she got robotazied (I know I spelled that wrong)

  • @TsuriaDragon
    @TsuriaDragon 6 місяців тому

    Curious we never seen what would Sonic be like if he wasn’t brave confident or sassy.

  • @Luv444Sienna
    @Luv444Sienna Рік тому +1

    How did I not notice those before. Tails is my favorite yet I didn't notice his personalities via Sonic Prime 😅

  • @AgentExeider
    @AgentExeider Рік тому +2

    a story that's actually deep, relateable, and interesting..... clearly not written by Sega. :P

  • @blakebrannan9889
    @blakebrannan9889 Рік тому

    I realize something well, this actually makes sense. What would happen once sonic brings his friends back? Will the alternate variations disappear? Or will they stay alive and go live? Their lives connected to the normal green Hill And I mean, it's like a Mini multi verse. Where all the universes are Interconnected And it just makes sense for them to either disappear or somehow. Be able to live life in their dimensions, but better.

  • @wherethesillieslive
    @wherethesillieslive Рік тому

    hello! just saying, your videos inspired me to do my own sonic reviews! thx!

    • @thestockimagequeen
      @thestockimagequeen  Рік тому

      AHH I just saw this, that’s so awesome! I can’t wait to check out your reviews :)

    • @wherethesillieslive
      @wherethesillieslive Рік тому

      @@thestockimagequeen hello! its me again!!! i'm actually started making a sonic radio drama show called sonic and tails adventure if you wanna check it out (also, i will make reviews, just need a topic and i'm also busy with school, bluh.) anyways, have a good day!!!

  • @DanganronpaAllStars64
    @DanganronpaAllStars64 Рік тому +2

    Sonic Prime was awesome I really love how you analysis it CosmoBunny 💚

  • @berserker3414
    @berserker3414 Рік тому

    I still prefer the term best friend to brother, because family has certain obligations a friend doesn't have (you are kinda imposed by destiny to stand your family, but you choose your friends). I see them as platonic soulmates tho. I wish Tails meant for Sonic as much as Sonic means to Tails... more equals

  • @anthonycuevasproduction
    @anthonycuevasproduction Рік тому +1

    Great video cosmo also happy new year 🥳

  • @SsjkidsSaveCosmo08
    @SsjkidsSaveCosmo08 Рік тому +3

    HONEY WAKE UP

  • @kittygardenva2741
    @kittygardenva2741 Рік тому +1

    Wonderful video!

  • @TheAndy71brown
    @TheAndy71brown Рік тому

    what about the fact that THE SHOW IS NOT EVEN DONE YET!

  • @Bunnygottalive
    @Bunnygottalive Рік тому

    Seeing Mangey makes me wish Tails would feel free to act more childish.He’s just a little kid…

    • @thestockimagequeen
      @thestockimagequeen  Рік тому +1

      SO REAL dude, Tails just needs to be bratty little kid for a day haha

    • @Bunnygottalive
      @Bunnygottalive Рік тому

      @@thestockimagequeen I know right?Like,go crazy kid.Annoy all your friends and than give them the puppy eyes if they yell at you🤣

  • @Milkmanrules1032
    @Milkmanrules1032 Рік тому

    It's pretty obvious at this point that Nine is the main villain.

    • @Milkmanrules1032
      @Milkmanrules1032 Рік тому

      By the time this video was made though he was a anti hero so you weren't wrong.

  • @ThunderTheYellowJolteon
    @ThunderTheYellowJolteon 3 місяці тому

    What would happen if Nine was in Sonic Forces instead of Tails?

  • @rachelgoldenburg2241
    @rachelgoldenburg2241 Рік тому +2

    Interesting analysis. Especially the line of questioning at the beginning-Is it better to be independent and lonely or dependent and loved?

  • @tristanreyes8590
    @tristanreyes8590 Рік тому +4

    I wonder which part of tails will be explored in the Yellow Shard’s Dimension also, are you going to do videos for the other characters

  • @cowboymagpie
    @cowboymagpie Рік тому +2

    id kill for a sonic show based on the idw comics

  • @Admiralkirk95
    @Admiralkirk95 Рік тому

    Nines character definetly got more interesting in season 2 in particular. He might have good intentions, but his ultimate goal is for himself, not to save, or fix anyone/anything else.

    • @thestockimagequeen
      @thestockimagequeen  Рік тому +1

      I agree! I can’t wait to see what they do with him in part 3👀

  • @AverageDillzer
    @AverageDillzer 2 місяці тому

    I LOVE YOUR VOICE

  • @axels3188
    @axels3188 Рік тому +2

    I think Sonic Prime was good and the Character driven story is good I especially like that They had Tails/Nine do the Spin dash what the majority of the Sonic Tv Media and The resent Games has is forgetting that That Tails was the one to invent the Spin dash which he teaches to Sonic I’m faked they finally Acknowledge Tails can Spin Dash also I like Nine’s 7 extra Metal Tails they reminds me of Doc Octopus’s Metal Arms Spider-Man’s Iron Spider Armour’s Metal Spider Legs they proves to make him more versatile and Nine’s Chaacter is Similar to How Dick Grayson/ Robbin broke off from Batman and Becomes The independent Nightwing also Mangey while he doesn’t talk but you see his Emotions Fleshed out by this Body Language you don’t need speak to see his Personality and Sails we see him being more Outgoing and Adventures and Fully trusting himself and Not trying overthink Things and i see how the three alternative Tails represent different parts of him Nine Independent Mangey Younger Self and Sails Adventuress.

  • @SonicEXEProductions
    @SonicEXEProductions Рік тому

    “Not quite a villain”
    Also nine: *literally gets mad at sonic for wanting to revive his world because he wants to make a new one”
    Oh, I must’ve forgot about the spoiler warning, sorry lol

  • @Oli6906
    @Oli6906 Рік тому

    Would love to see an analysis on Amy, and why she was portrayed as a Villain in two of the 4 worlds

  • @AAI_Einstein
    @AAI_Einstein Рік тому

    Unless time works differently Nine is 8 or at most 12, so … yeah. I never blamed tails for being a child but the sonic games just made him look like a total coward

  • @JabamiLain
    @JabamiLain Рік тому

    I have a quick doubt. I think I might one day do a Sonic crossover fanfic saga, but... Where do I put Sally (90s show) ?
    Should she be the former princess of the kingdom that would become Eggman's main land ? Or the daughter of a duke, receiving the nickname princess, because there was this political competition to determine if it would be her or Sonia the new princess ? All I know is, she has to be Sonic's childhood best friend.
    The backstory here is that Sonic and Manick rejected their duties as princes in favor of their own freedom, with Sonic becoming that free roaming adventurer we know while Manick sucumbed to his addiction of stealing, with Sonia being the only one willing to take the throne. But I need more.
    And this is as much as you'll get out of me. Now, what do I do with Sally ?

  • @flashfan4061
    @flashfan4061 Рік тому

    I don't like how they make all other characters so depending of Sonic.And what they did to Amy.

  • @tangsolaris9533
    @tangsolaris9533 7 місяців тому

    Poor tails. Like Shinji?

  • @ИванГанев-к4н
    @ИванГанев-к4н Рік тому

    What About Tails for Where was my hero? What happened than

  • @Whisperibby
    @Whisperibby Рік тому

    What do you think of omo chao Chris is also a great character idc how annoying characters are I only care about what they do I hate Elise for kissing sonic when he was dead that was disgusting

  • @ironhide_editzCr7prime
    @ironhide_editzCr7prime Рік тому +1

    And you know messi and ronaldo?

  • @CatrinaisHere
    @CatrinaisHere Рік тому +3

    non-binary pals

  • @Kaheiyattsu221
    @Kaheiyattsu221 Рік тому +1

    non binary doesn't exist