There’s a couple ways to tell if a supercharger is V2 (150kW max) or V3 (250kW max). The car’s nav will tell you if you click on it whether it’s max is 150 or 250. V2 cables are thicker/stiffer (fun in winter). V2 stalls are labeled 1A, 1B, 2A, 2B etc to reflect that those 2 stalls share power (ie someone charging at 1B will have their power halved if someone pulls into 1A). V3 are labeled 1A 1B 1C 1D and while they share power, they’re not limited due to dynamic load sharing. If your low SOC car kicks all the way up to 250, you’re at V3 (or 170 if you have RWD standard range).
V2 or v3 doesn’t really make that much difference to the charge time as the curve in Tesla drops off pretty quick, is only stays above 150 kw for the first 30% or so,
@@vxnova1what? 250kw will charge at a higher rate for 20-30% then drop to 130kw and continues to drop. 150kw will dip to 98kw at the same rate and you have to worry about power sharing.
Yeah, while V2 will hold at 150kW longer than V3 will hold at 250kW, the area under the curve for being 100kW faster for that time can be significant. Is it going to cut your time in half? No, but it'll shave 10 minutes off a 10-80% charging session (35 v 25min).
@@projectMac03 I am curious how it feels to you performance wise. I have a 2023 RWD LFP and I love it, but there is a bit of a power ramp where you don't get full torque/HP below about 10mph and then it ramps up quickly. How does this feel off the line? Do the tires break traction easily with all the power/TQ? I think dollar for dollar this is probably the best EV out there and look forward to your future content.
Took delivery of my 24 M3 RWD LR last week before the referral program started unfortunately but I love it!, coming from a 23 MY AWD, I prefer the M3 it is fast!. Audio has some good bass, just no subwoofer and the extra 6 speakers. I live in a midwestern state and have not had issues with driving FWD and RWD vehicles in Snow.
If you're getting anything over 150KW, it's at least a 250KW charger. If you're getting anything less than 250KW (but not at a V1 SuperCharger), running the AC will not affect charge performance.
40 cents/kwh is absurd. Some of the highest ive seen. The cost to fill a prius is about the same or less. Now if you home charge EVs cost significantly less to charge normally
Charging at 40 kWh is more than twice the cost of running my 2019 Prius that averages 60 mpg. The only way it would be cheaper if you’re below 20 kWh, which would only really be possible with a home charger
I’ve been watching your videos because I just ordered a LR RWD, however this will be my 3rd Tesla. Also have a 2018 AWD M3 and a 2022 AWD MY. All three have generally the same battery, 75 kWh NMC, so I assume they will all charge the same, which is generally 20% to 80% in 20 mins on V3
your app or the car should tell you the charging speeds of the station. Also from the look of the charger you are on a version 3 (capable of 250). The version 2 chargers had a silver collar at the base of the handle where it meets the cable. Nice looks car man.
My 2024 model 3 performance has the exact same charge curve! It was rumored the battery chem is different but I doubt that now. I had a first production 2018 LR before. The 2018 charged much faster BUT there have been countless improvements. You made a great choice with RWD LR, congrats.
Tint those windows man and save yourself some heat headache. I have 5% in the rear and back two, 45% in the front/passanger and 20% on windshield with 10% on moonroof. No heat whatsoever and the AC becomes hyper effective.. lessening it's cost on range.
Seems like we both got the same car on the same day. I love mine too. You charged at a 250kW charger. The RWD LR can charge up to 250kW. Thanks for the videos.
Nice video. I’ve recently started to become more interested in Tesla’s . I like the new model 3 performance but also like the S. Thank you for sharing a charging session experience. What I’d like to know is how is your experience with any Tesla model vehicle in the winter? I live in Illinois and this past winter. I huge amount of Tesla owners had major charging problems (pretty sure it was the charging aspect) because how cold it was . A lot of cars were just stranded at the charging stations. Ever have an issue? Maybe you don’t live where it gets cold and snowy? If not, anyone else experience an issue with there Tesla in winter? Ty 😊
My 2018 LR RWD honestly charges about the same as this car. Which is cool if you’re into old cheap examples like mine. But pretty disappointing if you expected a refresh car to get better. Tesla seems to be coasting at this point and not trying to make their basic products better.
My guess they will focus on upgrading model x, s and cybertrucks first with v4 superchargers in the future but we’ll see once more v4’s are built and running
Crazy how the predicted time can be off by 20%. I mean the car is stationary and you know the power going in. You would think they can better predict this stuff. The teenage estimator is even worse which is rather annoying
The reason Tesla's always win the Out of Spec races is not because they have the longest range or the fastest charging speed, but; --The Superchargers are reliable and virtually never have problems. --Superchargers are the closest to the highways especially much more so than Electrify America. --Tesla has the best planning on their Navigation system.
it would be great to see videos on the best upgrades for it wejter it would be for inter protection or to upgrade the audion for all 17 speakers, for example protective mats that cover all of the carpet, for example i bought an entire leather material that covers the entire carpet front and rear with additoanl cloth carpet and on top of that i bought plastic cover alls for in the vhvicle and the trunk,
Thought about getting a model 3 since i dmeo drove one... But no home charging makes it inpractical 😢... Cant live off superchargers... Also, insurance aint a joke
I demoed one over the weekend with 3 adults in the backseat. One was small and it was very cramped. I would say it is more comfortable for 2 people in the back. You might look at a MY.
While the Taycan and Ioniq's are impressive, they don't have a dedicated charging network. For Tesla to switch to 800V, they would need to retool the entire supercharger network. Better to focus on efficiency and cost. Because to be fair, the only time I'm supercharging instead of home charging is on road trips. And I don't care if my car charges in 10, 15 or 30 minutes. After 2+ hours of driving, I want to stretch my legs and eat something.
@@Jeroenneman 30 minutes is probably fine in most cases. But the time when you want to stretch your legs or eat something doesn't always align with the charging opportunity so it can happen that you've just eaten and then need to stop again shortly after for charging. I would not a buy a non-800V car these days, but then again I'm in Europe where the Tesla supercharger network is just one among many and really not an important part of the buying decision like in the US (it's cheaper than most of the competition though).
@@lilgshock07 if you live in a place that has snow get the AWD, if you don't really like a lot of bass on your sound system do not get the AWD i think the sound is really good without the additional speakers the only major difference is the bass, in addition the interior is a little different.
@@lilgshock07 The correct tires matter more for traction in the snow than AWD vs RWD. A RWD car with snow tires on will perform just fine in most situations. The decision to pay the extra $5,000 to get the AWD version will depend on how much you value the upgraded speaker system and interior materials at the cost of about 20 miles of range. For me the LR RWD is the best bang for your buck
@@superrico5208 I live n LA so AWD isn’t needed but I do know most people prefer dual motors. Do u think the upgrade is worth the 5k?, this will be my 1st Tesla.
@@projectMac03 So, if you drove your M3 200 miles and it cost $24.00 to go from 10-80% charge, then my compact gas car that gets 30mpg will cost the same in gas @ $3.70/gal. I guess if you do a road trip and rely solely on super chargers, you pay premo.
@@projectMac03 Hi. Yes I know you did this just as a test which was great! There is so much to learn about Tesla's it's mind boggling. A M3 will be my next car asap. Since I've always been an econo nut, I have owned cars with Diesel engines and currently still drive a 2001 VW NB with the diesel engine. Get an average of 45mpg. But had for the last 22 years and it's getting "old" not just in age, but it's wearing on me. Yes, it's cheap to drive spite of rippoff diesel fuel prices around $4/gal I need to move on. I have a peak/off peak electric rate where my off peak rate is 8¢/Kwh after all line item charges! So, I can charge a Tesla pretty cheap!
@@curtchase3730 Nice! I think the biggest unspoken problem with Tesla is phantom drain-car losing energy without driving. This can be fixed by turning certain features off but it’s something to keep in mind on long trips.
2:38 "gonna get a bite to eat, run back to the rest room, and go back to the car." ok, so you're refueling your car, you're gonna go take a shit, grab a sandwich, and see if your car is full yet. Got it.
Guys please stop telling the audience you're going to the bathroom, thats gross. Make anything else up or simply say you'll update in a few minutes 🙄🙄🙄🙄
If EVs are inconvenient for you, then just don't buy them. Feel like people love to keep saying things like "Teslas dont have that much range", "you have to waste time to stop and charge", "you cant go on a long trip w/o needing to stop", etc but the people who buy these cars don't mind that type of stuff and are definitely welcoming to the EV experience. If I have to wait 20-30 mins at a Supercharger for my Tesla to charge, I'm totally fine with that cause I can either go get something to eat, go on a break, or even sit in the Tesla while watching some shows/movies. It's not really a big deal.
If you're purchasing a Tesla, use my referral code to get $1,000 off your order: ts.la/kaine16773
@projectMac03 - How do you know who uses the referral code. I used one a month ago. Delivery this week. Make sure they give it to you.
There’s a couple ways to tell if a supercharger is V2 (150kW max) or V3 (250kW max). The car’s nav will tell you if you click on it whether it’s max is 150 or 250. V2 cables are thicker/stiffer (fun in winter). V2 stalls are labeled 1A, 1B, 2A, 2B etc to reflect that those 2 stalls share power (ie someone charging at 1B will have their power halved if someone pulls into 1A). V3 are labeled 1A 1B 1C 1D and while they share power, they’re not limited due to dynamic load sharing. If your low SOC car kicks all the way up to 250, you’re at V3 (or 170 if you have RWD standard range).
Also if you see a silver ring under the handle/port button itself it will be a V2 while V3 is black
V2 or v3 doesn’t really make that much difference to the charge time as the curve in Tesla drops off pretty quick, is only stays above 150 kw for the first 30% or so,
@@vxnova1what? 250kw will charge at a higher rate for 20-30% then drop to 130kw and continues to drop. 150kw will dip to 98kw at the same rate and you have to worry about power sharing.
Yeah, while V2 will hold at 150kW longer than V3 will hold at 250kW, the area under the curve for being 100kW faster for that time can be significant. Is it going to cut your time in half? No, but it'll shave 10 minutes off a 10-80% charging session (35 v 25min).
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I absolutely love your content no one else has done anything with the LR RWD model 3.
@@onwardpenguen4892 thank you! what would you like to see next?
@@projectMac03we need an honest review of the base sound system!
@@projectMac03 I am curious how it feels to you performance wise. I have a 2023 RWD LFP and I love it, but there is a bit of a power ramp where you don't get full torque/HP below about 10mph and then it ramps up quickly. How does this feel off the line? Do the tires break traction easily with all the power/TQ?
I think dollar for dollar this is probably the best EV out there and look forward to your future content.
@@jrwaters943 yes definitely breaks traction. Instant torque
@@projectMac03 Acceleration testing on different battery charge levels
I just ordered my model 3 and used your referral code. Thanks , got $1000 off.
Congratulations! What spec did you order?
@@projectMac03 Long Range Rear Wheel Drive, Color Blue
Took delivery of my 24 M3 RWD LR last week before the referral program started unfortunately but I love it!, coming from a 23 MY AWD, I prefer the M3 it is fast!. Audio has some good bass, just no subwoofer and the extra 6 speakers. I live in a midwestern state and have not had issues with driving FWD and RWD vehicles in Snow.
I have a 23 MY LR. I’m really thinking about making same trade. Everyday thinking about hahaha
If you're getting anything over 150KW, it's at least a 250KW charger. If you're getting anything less than 250KW (but not at a V1 SuperCharger), running the AC will not affect charge performance.
Yes sir thank you. Can't wait to take delivery
Just bought one myself last week, looking forward to delivery!
Me too, ordered aug 26, are we possible to get it delivered before 9/30?
Did you guys finance or lease? Also did you already receive it?
picking one up Monday... are you guys impressed??
Came from your Reddit post. Keep making videos bro thank you
My fav as well, cant wait...peace
40 cents/kwh is absurd. Some of the highest ive seen. The cost to fill a prius is about the same or less. Now if you home charge EVs cost significantly less to charge normally
Come the UK and you won’t complain. My local supermarket is £0.57 or $0.75 per kWh.
Charging at 40 kWh is more than twice the cost of running my 2019 Prius that averages 60 mpg. The only way it would be cheaper if you’re below 20 kWh, which would only really be possible with a home charger
I’ve been watching your videos because I just ordered a LR RWD, however this will be my 3rd Tesla. Also have a 2018 AWD M3 and a 2022 AWD MY. All three have generally the same battery, 75 kWh NMC, so I assume they will all charge the same, which is generally 20% to 80% in 20 mins on V3
your app or the car should tell you the charging speeds of the station. Also from the look of the charger you are on a version 3 (capable of 250). The version 2 chargers had a silver collar at the base of the handle where it meets the cable. Nice looks car man.
My 2024 model 3 performance has the exact same charge curve! It was rumored the battery chem is different but I doubt that now. I had a first production 2018 LR before. The 2018 charged much faster BUT there have been countless improvements. You made a great choice with RWD LR, congrats.
How much faster was your 2018?
@@projectMac03 You can still pull 250kw at 25% and the curve is still great after that.
Tint those windows man and save yourself some heat headache. I have 5% in the rear and back two, 45% in the front/passanger and 20% on windshield with 10% on moonroof. No heat whatsoever and the AC becomes hyper effective.. lessening it's cost on range.
Seems like we both got the same car on the same day. I love mine too. You charged at a 250kW charger. The RWD LR can charge up to 250kW. Thanks for the videos.
Tempted to trade my 21 dual motor m3 for this but I think juniper is worth the wait.
@@hengloose I’m sure it is, I just wanted to lock in that 1.9%
How many miles did you get on 80%
Thanks buddy. You saved me a grand on my model Y order just now
Congratulations! What spec did you get?
Nice video. I’ve recently started to become more interested in Tesla’s . I like the new model 3 performance but also like the S.
Thank you for sharing a charging session experience.
What I’d like to know is how is your experience with any Tesla model vehicle in the winter? I live in Illinois and this past winter. I huge amount of Tesla owners had major charging problems (pretty sure it was the charging aspect) because how cold it was . A lot of cars were just stranded at the charging stations.
Ever have an issue? Maybe you don’t live where it gets cold and snowy?
If not, anyone else experience an issue with there Tesla in winter? Ty 😊
My 2018 LR RWD honestly charges about the same as this car. Which is cool if you’re into old cheap examples like mine. But pretty disappointing if you expected a refresh car to get better. Tesla seems to be coasting at this point and not trying to make their basic products better.
Don’t forget how much cheaper it has gotten, yet better in every way other than charging/stalks
My guess they will focus on upgrading model x, s and cybertrucks first with v4 superchargers in the future but we’ll see once more v4’s are built and running
The difference is the new Model 3 has significantly more range, so you’re getting a lot more range at 80% vs your car
Crazy how the predicted time can be off by 20%. I mean the car is stationary and you know the power going in. You would think they can better predict this stuff. The teenage estimator is even worse which is rather annoying
The reason Tesla's always win the Out of Spec races is not because they have the longest range or the fastest charging speed, but;
--The Superchargers are reliable and virtually never have problems.
--Superchargers are the closest to the highways especially much more so than Electrify America.
--Tesla has the best planning on their Navigation system.
What's the camera mount you're using on the roof, and do you like it?
150kw has a silver ring near the handle and the hose is thicker. The 250kw has no ring and is thinner.
Great video! You got a new subscriber.
How is the sound system?
@@AgilHuseynov I’m very happy with it. I’ll make a video about it soon!
@@projectMac03 WOW! Thank you for the quick response!
Great video. I’m going to use your code soon to get 1000 off
@@unsoughtdrip awesome! Which spec are you going with?
Love your videos! I’d love to see a video just about your experience with FSD! Did you buy it or are you on a trial/ subscription?
Got one on the way! Loving it so far, Tesla gives you 30 days for free upon delivery.
Why is the RWD your prefernce over the dual motor?
@@jcherestal More range, increased efficiency, 5k less than dual motor.
I have a 24 model 3 performance and it charges 10%-80% in 20min
Exact same battery, no?
it would be great to see videos on the best upgrades for it wejter it would be for inter protection or to upgrade the audion for all 17 speakers, for example protective mats that cover all of the carpet, for example i bought an entire leather material that covers the entire carpet front and rear with additoanl cloth carpet and on top of that i bought plastic cover alls for in the vhvicle and the trunk,
Could you do a road trip with passengers or heavy weight in the car to see how the range is affected by extra weight?
Not by much. At highway speeds the weight is not a problem, at low speeds the weight is helping more with the regenerative braking.
Thought about getting a model 3 since i dmeo drove one... But no home charging makes it inpractical 😢... Cant live off superchargers...
Also, insurance aint a joke
@@hansolyoon1074 definitely need home charging
Good video brother. Does the car has the cooling seats on your model?
@@SamuelBoursiquot-d9x yes it does!
Super nice video, but I did wanna know how much you spent on charging. Also, the location you’re at to know how much it cost to charge there.
.40 cents/kwh / $23.62
Thanks for he video. Is my calculations correct: 75 kwh of usable battery capacity / 313whm = 240 miles range (75 mph) ?
Calc is likely correct, but the car is going to perform significantly better than that.
Is model 3 good in terms of space in the car for a family of 4? I personally felt very cramped in the car.
I demoed one over the weekend with 3 adults in the backseat. One was small and it was very cramped. I would say it is more comfortable for 2 people in the back. You might look at a MY.
Question does your rear wheel drive model can handle 100% charging without get a warning from Tesla
@@Mask2000and1 No it can’t
What are your thoughts on the sound system?
I’ll make a video talking about it. I think it’s fantastic tbh.
Just wondering, what is the ambient temperature? Do you think you need a glass roof sunshade?
Not while driving. Could be useful in hotter climate prevent cabin overheating
I just purchased & received a Model 3 Rear Standard range. I have still referral code so let me know if you need one
Did you preheat the battery before charging?
It’s already hot outside 😂
LG Chem or Panasonic Battery?
@@XzPERFECTIONzX should be Panasonic, but I’m not sure how to validate that
@@projectMac03 did you get the $7,500 rebate, if so, it's the Panasonic.
I pay 4 cents a kilowatt hour. You are paying 40. Wow.
did you charge under 48A ? RWD IS 32 AMP
I used a lvl 2 charger and hit 40A
How long did you get your car delivered l after ordering?
@@yunsue8155 20 days
@@projectMac03 do you think I still can get mine delivered in September if I ordered on Aug 26? I must transfer my FSD.
@@yunsue8155 I think so, it’s the end of the quarter they are going to move quick
So hate to say it but it sounds like your battery is the poor performing one. It took almost 30 minutes to do 10-80%
@@darrenorange2982 how fast is the other version?
What do you mean? There are poor performing ones?
@@projectMac03 if you confirm where your battery was made
@@ATLRoniB yea the American made batteries charge slower. And don't hit 250kw
@@darrenorange2982 how confident are you about this information and where did you get it from?
Wow, I would consider that impressively slow for a 2024 car. The Taycan and the Koreans have been able to do 10-80% in
While the Taycan and Ioniq's are impressive, they don't have a dedicated charging network. For Tesla to switch to 800V, they would need to retool the entire supercharger network.
Better to focus on efficiency and cost. Because to be fair, the only time I'm supercharging instead of home charging is on road trips. And I don't care if my car charges in 10, 15 or 30 minutes. After 2+ hours of driving, I want to stretch my legs and eat something.
@@Jeroenneman 30 minutes is probably fine in most cases. But the time when you want to stretch your legs or eat something doesn't always align with the charging opportunity so it can happen that you've just eaten and then need to stop again shortly after for charging.
I would not a buy a non-800V car these days, but then again I'm in Europe where the Tesla supercharger network is just one among many and really not an important part of the buying decision like in the US (it's cheaper than most of the competition though).
Does your Model 3 have the LFP battery?
@@bradcooke5383 This model does not
Only RWD standard range has LFP. Everyone else has NMC. At least Model 3; can't speak for others.
We need more videos about the car brother
Tell me what you wanna see!
@@projectMac03 efficiency, drive quality, road noise, any issues or things you don’t like, what you love etc
40 cents a kwh? holy moly...
@@ryshask yeah I was shocked lol.
How much did it cost?
@@sasaneon $23.62
@projectMac03 that's not bad, I expected more like $15
@@sasaneon yeah, but tbh I would never supercharge for that long hardly every
@@sasaneonall depends on which station you go to, the season and time of day.
How much did it cost to charge
@@Sammy-uv1kl $23.62
How many miles at 80%???
@@RUBENSENDEREY 290
What was the cost at the end?
$23.62
Would u have gotten the Awd if u could or no? I’m stuck between the two. Also how long did it take to get ur credit approved?
@@lilgshock07 if you live in a place that has snow get the AWD, if you don't really like a lot of bass on your sound system do not get the AWD i think the sound is really good without the additional speakers the only major difference is the bass, in addition the interior is a little different.
@@lilgshock07 The correct tires matter more for traction in the snow than AWD vs RWD. A RWD car with snow tires on will perform just fine in most situations. The decision to pay the extra $5,000 to get the AWD version will depend on how much you value the upgraded speaker system and interior materials at the cost of about 20 miles of range. For me the LR RWD is the best bang for your buck
@@superrico5208 I live n LA so AWD isn’t needed but I do know most people prefer dual motors. Do u think the upgrade is worth the 5k?, this will be my 1st Tesla.
Am I allowed to post my referral code here? By the way I just ordered the exact same car!
How many miles at 80%?
cost?
@@adam44E $23.62
@@projectMac03 So, if you drove your M3 200 miles and it cost $24.00 to go from 10-80% charge, then my compact gas car that gets 30mpg will cost the same in gas @ $3.70/gal. I guess if you do a road trip and rely solely on super chargers, you pay premo.
@@curtchase3730 Sorta. This amount of supercharging was unnecessary. I was ready to finish my destination 1 minute into charging.
@@projectMac03 Hi. Yes I know you did this just as a test which was great! There is so much to learn about Tesla's it's mind boggling. A M3 will be my next car asap. Since I've always been an econo nut, I have owned cars with Diesel engines and currently still drive a 2001 VW NB with the diesel engine. Get an average of 45mpg. But had for the last 22 years and it's getting "old" not just in age, but it's wearing on me. Yes, it's cheap to drive spite of rippoff diesel fuel prices around $4/gal I need to move on. I have a peak/off peak electric rate where my off peak rate is 8¢/Kwh after all line item charges! So, I can charge a Tesla pretty cheap!
@@curtchase3730 Nice! I think the biggest unspoken problem with Tesla is phantom drain-car losing energy without driving. This can be fixed by turning certain features off but it’s something to keep in mind on long trips.
2:38
"gonna get a bite to eat, run back to the rest room, and go back to the car."
ok, so you're refueling your car, you're gonna go take a shit, grab a sandwich, and see if your car is full yet.
Got it.
Way more chill than refueling. Home charging solves the entire "charging" challenge for 99% of trips.
Guys please stop telling the audience you're going to the bathroom, thats gross. Make anything else up or simply say you'll update in a few minutes 🙄🙄🙄🙄
EVs are simply Not worth all the trouble and they're beyond Dangerous for you and your family
@@safebatteries8315 why are they dangerous?
if i’m not mistaken Teslas are one of the safest cars to drive .
If EVs are inconvenient for you, then just don't buy them. Feel like people love to keep saying things like "Teslas dont have that much range", "you have to waste time to stop and charge", "you cant go on a long trip w/o needing to stop", etc but the people who buy these cars don't mind that type of stuff and are definitely welcoming to the EV experience. If I have to wait 20-30 mins at a Supercharger for my Tesla to charge, I'm totally fine with that cause I can either go get something to eat, go on a break, or even sit in the Tesla while watching some shows/movies. It's not really a big deal.
Ya know what's Dangerous, Komrade? Not using Capitalization properly, That's dangerous. Like in the middle of a Sentence dangerous.