9:28 the reason why the party hat was replaced with the swimmer's goggles is because Pichu was cut from Brawl... and putting Pichu's old swimmer goggles alt on Pikachu implies he got enough affection from his trainer to evolve :')
There was even a fan theory back in the day that Smash 64 and Melee Pikachu left, and Pichu evolved to replace him, and not just the goggles costume, but all of them, with the primary evidence (as far as I remember) being that Melee Pikachu couldn't wall jump, but Pichu could, and Pikachu was able to wall jump from Brawl onward.
@@justsomerando4905 huh, so then what does that say about the new Picchu? Are we gonna have an endless cycle fo pichus replacing pikachus? We will ever get a Raichu?
@@CosmicToad5000 well, I’m assuming this happened. Pikachu in 64 Pikachu gets new friend, melee Pikachu gets old and retires, pichu grows to his age, brawl Pichu is now Pikachu, but is alone, 4 Pikachu gets new pichu friend, ultimate It’s a endless cycle, yes
7:30 Black Yoshi did have an origin for its inspiration. In Yoshi’s Story 64,you could play as an unlockable Black Yoshi which could eat black-colored shy guys and other poisonous objects without receiving damage,unlike the rest of the Yoshis. There was also a white-colored Yoshi who had different attributes as well.
@Zac Bossler idk, their character designers could be different. I'm sure if they didn't have restrictions they would give them alts that were easily distinguishable
wario’s white and blue alt in brawl makes him look like the captain of a ship. now i’m imagining him making a pure gold boat and naming it the s.s. wario and then immediately crashing it into something because that’s how he is
The “rejected” Meta Knight costume was more so an evolution, both designs seem to be based on Galacta Knight, but the second version does lean more heavily into it.
and I swear the kirby costume that looks like meta knight was not there throughout the whole smash bros series. And it's not a "I think" it's a "I'm positive." it really sucked how he just barely acknowledged them
@@superhappygamer1162 I like him too, but I like Black Yoshi even more, cause he is so cute. Why didn't they replace another Yoshi with the crafted Yoshi of the same color, then each color would have been in the game and everyone would be happy. Anoter could addition would have been replacing a Yoshi with their Wooly World version.
I still remember playing Smash 4 with my friend, and I was using black Yoshi, and he was absolutely tripping... he was like “why is Yoshi throwing soccer balls??? This makes no sense!!!” and it distracted him so much that I easily beat him. Then I told him they were eggs with black spots (because the spots are the same color as his skin) and we were both just dying of laughter. Needless to say, I was heartbroken when I first saw that ⚽️ Yoshi was gone from Smash Ultimate. 😢
I really miss that white Wolf alt, it made me think of Speed racer! I think it's worth pointing out how in Melee, the daisy alt was a true costume, adding the flower motif and alternate glove/waist models whereas in brawl and 4 it was only a recolor :( Boy Robin's changed too, his blue and green alts have weird grayish hair now and the white mage look has brown hair instead of true black, and yellow girl Robin's hair is similarly grungy looking, I think they all looked so much better in 4 😭 I miss the old green kirby too I don't like the brown/orange shoes, and red marth having a matching red tiara! I'm also pretty sure the differences to fire luigi is because the original alt was based on his sprite from super mario bros!
I remember playing the pre release ultimate and noticing that Ridley lost 2 skins for the metal variants and it had me theorize that we would have unlockable skins in ultimate. Such a missed opportunity.
I’m pretty sure they just didn’t want people to be able to use the costume in the demo and instead put the colors to represent the costume. Ridley’s Meta costume was already shown back when he was revealed. It’s weird since Mario’s, Link’s, Cloud’s, and Bayonetta’s costumes were in the demo. They probably did it cause Ridley was a newcomer unlike the others.
I actually like the idea of characters with alts from other games (i.e Jigglypuff with peach's crown) cause I feel it adds to the crossover. Characters having an item that they got from another series.
Slight correction on Ganondorf, his melee look is actually lifted straight from the Spaceworld 2000 tech demo that featured Links vs Ganondorf in a sword fight and Ganondorf even uses the same sword in his win animations and would later be given that sword for his smash attacks in Ultimate.
"We're bringing Young Link back" "Oh cool, I liked his black tunic alt, let's get that in after his green one!" "No." "Huh? Why?" "It could be obtained through hacking. We don't want hacking" "The game came out decades ago though..."
Marth has had rejected alts. The one based off of Roy in Smash 4, it got replaced by an alt based on his art from Fire Emblem 1. The teal one from Brawl which more directly references Fire Emblem 3 has either been replaced or *highly* modified, to where many of the colors aren't even the same. The black alt has also been changed to include orange.
The light blue Link from Smash 64 makes sense as a cut. It was a throwback to the Blue Ring from Zelda 1, which sadly a lot of younger players wouldn't get. Replacing it with a BOTW outfit made a lot of sense.
(20:35) Wario has been the only character so far that had two costumes per team colour, if I'm not mistaken. Smash 4 changed it so you can have any colour for your team; Brawl and earlier had specific costumes for red, blue and green, and if you changed costume, you changed team, and only had 3 costumes to pick from. But Wario had 6.
Something I'd like to add about Luigi's alts is that in the transition from Smash 4 to Smash Ultimate his purple Waluigi alt was changed. The L on his cap was changed from yellow to purple, for one reason or another.
This honestly still wants me to think that idea of Smash Brothers Ultimate having a customizable alternate costume system in which you can create 8 more palette swaps so you can put in the fire mario alt..or that pikachu with the top hat for some reason. Just adding more variety.
17:18 Actually, Marth does have quite a few changes. The white alt gradually looked less like Leif from Thracia 776, Marth's sixth alt in Brawl that was a reference to his sprite from the NES game got changed to an all blue alt in Smash 4, and he had a gold alt that was changed to look like Roy's gold alt from Melee in Smash 4. A reference to the NES game was added back into Marth's alts in Ultimate, but this time it's in reference to his official art (AKA No Pants Marth)
Little Mac's "yellow outfit" isn't a reference to the P2 outfit in Punch Out Wii, it's a reference to Little Mac's Tittle Defense outfit after beating all the other characters and winning the championship. And his "standard blue" outfit is a reference to his Major Circuit outfit. Don't know if he knows this, but I felt like the way he explained these two made them sound like generic color changes without much meaning.
@@lmao7562 listen man they can call it cyan all they want to, put the brawl version next to the ultimate version they’re completely different colors. he’s exactly one color and nothing else I don’t think this can be considered “evolution” it’s just like objectively a different color and it’s a crime. give it back god forbid we have a bright mr game and watch alt that isn’t just grey
@@LuigiLitoLL clearly the color isn’t close enough for the general player base to consider it the same color and has led to people missing and asking for the old one, like me and everyone that liked this comment. if you want to be a stickler and start arguments fine but the fact is people want the old one back and if they were actually so close in color that they’re the same it wouldn’t happen
The blue goggles started on Pichu in Melee, and then got switched to Pikachu in Brawl. Arguably, the costume was not switched, but rather, Pichu simply evolved into Pikachu, and the Pichu in Melee is the Pikachu in Brawl.
The blonde Pit looks like your typical angel imagery, sure, but sure as hell not biblically accurate, the closest things to those eldritch horrors would be Galeem and Darkhon.
This video made me realize how much actual thought and reference is put into these alternate costumes. I just used to think they were all just meant to be “hey cool more colors”
1:55 Except Peach has exactly this. In fact, I'd say peach's is worse than Mario's would've been. She has one completely white costume, and one that's white with a red trim on her dress and umbrella. Mario's wedding outfit has a completely different outfit, and his Fire is pretty distinguishable since it's primarily red. Peach's are the same model, both primarily white.
An idea that I just thought of which I think would be a good improvement to the current set colour swap system, is a fully customisable colour setting for each character. For example if you picked fox you can pick his for colour and visor colour separately amongst a group of options provided.
The Choice Band Pikachu I always thought was neat because it was also a shiny Pikachu in a game where all the other Pokemon characters lacked their shiny forms (since Incineroar, Squirtle, and Ivysaur weren’t in Smash 4)
wouldnt call it rejected, more like discontinued since "rejected makes it sound like they weren't in to begin with also I want swimsuits for Pyra and Mythra, missed opportunity
I know you can't really change the resolution of some of the images, but the blurriness does disorient me while watching. But I enjoyed how much in details you went in for every single costume.
pour one out for red-haired Anna!Robin edit: so i know every youtuber puts that subscriber count graph in their videos, but holy shit, i had no clue how few subscribers you have compared to your average view count. massively underrated my guy.
Not giving peach her wedding dress from SMO was a big missed opportunity imo. Mario gets the tux and the fact peach cant rock her giant poofy dress is a big letdown...
I have a feeling that black had another reason: if your a fan of sml ,you should remember black yoshi in the old sml channel.Before SSBU came sml got nuked by nintendo. And thought that less people will play the game with the black yoshi alt.
19:00 This change of the mask might actually be a reference to the character Galata Knight. A reoccurring character that is most often seen fighting Meta Knight.
“The blonde haired alt which is based on a conventional angel’s depiction in the bible” Last I checked pit wasnt a ball of fire surrounded with massive rings covered in eyes that had four wings and said “𝕭𝕰 𝕹𝕺𝕿 𝕬𝕱𝕽𝕬𝕴𝕯"
Amazing video! I wanted to point out an incredibly big misconception about Mewtwo's Melee green alt, however. Melee's Green Mewtwo, even having a big resemblence, is not based in the actual shiny Mewtwo. At the time Melee came out, Gold and Silver were the newest games, where he didn't had that green as the shiny, but rather the yellow one Smash 4 and Ultimate has. The green one in Ultimate was basically made just for the Green Team slot I think. Aside from that, I couldn't find anything off of any of your explanations. Really miss the old Bowser alts and Wario Mario, too. As said before, great video, love me some alts
-Isn’t Kirby’s god-kill-count in the double digits? I think it makes perfect sense for him to be the sole survivor in WOL, bias aside -fun cpt. falcon Easter egg! Each of his alts in Melee have slightly different collision boxes. (Citation: AsumSaus’s “high-tier oddities” Video, iirc) -I thought the blue bowser was based on dark bowser from inside story! But imposter bowser is cool, something I didn’t know about. -Someone else said this here, but the purple Sm4sh design was a reference to Galacta knight. They changed it to more closely resemble him in ultimate, and added a scar to the dark MK’s mask too. (They also changed the sword colors!) -Ike’s white clothes & blue cape might be a reference to Sigurd, another FE protagonist, but idk Thanks for the video! Very interesting and a good watch :)
Me too. That's why I play Smash Bros 4 more often than Ultimate, cause it hurts my feeling more to not see him in a 8-fighter-Fight with all Yoshi alters.
My least favorite cut was Ike's RD white alt that looked like Chrom. I understand they had to limit Ike's alts that came from Brawl and 4 due to half his Ult alts being PoR and the other half being RD, plus Chrom is actually in the game now, but white RD Ike was a favorite of mine because I love the white swordsman look. I always pick the white alt when using Marth and Chrom. I like the elegance of clean swordplay and white fits that so well IMO.
I've put forward this idea and I think it could work. Let's first establish that some characters have "model swap", like Mario having his default model in 6 variants, then a builder and wedding model. - So expand the options from 8 to a possible 16 outfits. You hold down the R/L button and press down to skip straight from outfit 1 to 9. - For every character which has 2 models split evenly 4 each; with are commonly the male-female variants: Bayonetta, Byleth, Cloud, Corrin, Ike, Olimar, Piranha Plant, Pokémon Trainer, Robin, Wario, Wii Fit Trainer. But not Inkling or Villager since they have more than 2 models, nor Shulk, Ridley or more since they don't have an equal 4-4 split. Now, take the ones mentioned and make the model 1 be outfits 1-4 and model 2 be outfits 9-12. Now add 4 colour variants to each model to expand the options. For example if a colour is exclusive to one model, give it to the other. It doesn't matter if some alts look similar since you have 16 total to select from. In the case of Wii Fit Trainer, female version could have 5-8 represent Wii Fit U. - For characters with just a few special models, usually just 1 or 2, like Joker, Little Mac, Mario, Pac Man, Ridley, Sephiroth, Shulk, Steve, Zero Suit Samus; if they have 1 extra model like Joker and Ridley, make it be 9-12 and add alternative colours to fill it out, leave 13-16 blank for the future, and if they have 2 extra models like Mario and Pac Man, make the first extra be 9-12, the second extra be 13-16 and add extra colours. - For characters having all unique models like Bowser Jr., Inkling, Jigglypuff, Pichu, Pikachu; make 9-16 match the models of 1-8, but of course with alternative colours. - For characters having 4 models, where the second half repeats with alternative colours, like for Hero, Inkling, do the same where 9-16 is the same as 1-8 with alternative colours. - Finally for all other characters without any extra models; for now, leave 9-16 blank. Then release DLC costumes for these. Follow the pattern and release one costume covering 9-12 and possibly a second for 13-16. Alternative costumes can be Dry Bowser, Mr. L, Gooigie, Shadow the Hedgehog, Tennis Peach/Daisy, Strikers Peach/Daisy, Wii Fit U trainer mentioned before, and more ideas. This idea will make the base model cover 1-8 for almost all characters, and 9-16 being alternative outfits that requires a new model; with the exception for those already having 4+ models in the game.
Adding to this, Crafted Yoshi could be counted as a different model, so you could move it to 9-12, give it 3 other colour variants, and then add back the black Yoshi.
1:09 I hate this change. the reason is that the colour flipped Mario actually got into a New Super Mario Bros game as the Ice Flower power up colour palette.
The Foreman Spike themed alt for Mario turning black actually can be a reference to Wrecking Crew 98 version for Foreman Spike who's clothes has turned darker near black.
When all 8 alternate costumes are used in an 8 player FFA on a big stage when the camera is far out the similar colors can become a bit of an issue. This is why they started removing these going in ssb4 for wii u instead of worrying about that in brawl or something.
I really liked the black Bowser alt from Melee, kinda sad to see it has changed. In particular I liked it because when you fought Bowser in Adventure Mode, he would have the black look if you got there in time for the Giga Bowser fight, with him looking normal if you didn't. So that color was a sign of success!
Your correct about how a alt doesn't need a reference. And it anybody disagrees they should know some characters don't really have options for a reference. Such as falcon.
There are some things in this video I disagree with, mostly based on what the inspiration is. 1. Link and Zelda's "white" alts would actually be lavender, since they're based on the original game, when Link rescues Zelda while equipped with the Blue Ring (they're listed as white on Smash Wiki's Melee costumes page, but lavender elsewhere). Link's alt stayed through Brawl, and then was replaced by the deeper purple that could be based on an alternate costume in Soul Calibur II; while Zelda's seems to have been replaced with her pink Ocarina alt in Brawl and Smash 4, before being re-added in Ultimate. 2. Missed opportunity to mention the fan theory that the Pikachu in Brawl evolved from Pichu in Melee. May or may not actually be why the goggles replaced the hat in Brawl, though there's no explanation for why it has both in the next game. 3. More of a nitpick, but I wouldn't say Ike's base alt was removed in 4 considering he was updated to match his newer game. Since you already mentioned the costume update from Brawl to Smash 4, it seemed redundant to mention it being removed and then re-added. Otherwise, fun video
I miss Fire Mario and Black Yoshi so much... may their souls forever Rest In Peace
I have found. Also yes fire Mario was cool 😔
F for Black Yoshi and Fire Mario...
What about cut mii outfits no counting dlc like the soilder/knight armor dosent appear in ultimate
How are you not verified
Mario is my main for fire Mario being gone it is kinda sad
I'm surprised we didn't get a detective pikachu alt
*surprised pikachu face*
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I would want Ryan Reynolds to do all of the voice acting for that skin.
Such a missed opportunity also Ukulele Pichu could've been an alt costume for Pichu as a reference to the Pokémon Ranger series.
@Adyaan Kibria lol that would actually be kinda cool
I think to compensate for the loss of Fire Mario costume, he should transform into Fire Mario during his Final Smash
That's what i think would be best
That would've been a genius idea. I never even thought about that
Yeah but that is a reference to Mario RPG, the game where Mario can shoot fireballs without a flower so it would also be strange
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@@diamondmemer9754 and in superstar saga.
Every Pokémon should have a shiny alt.
Ikr
Would be cool if every pokeball pokemon had a chance to be a shiny
I agree.
I play as Shiny Pikachu and Incineroar, so I agree.
Every Pokémon should have a funny hat.
9:28 the reason why the party hat was replaced with the swimmer's goggles is because Pichu was cut from Brawl... and putting Pichu's old swimmer goggles alt on Pikachu implies he got enough affection from his trainer to evolve :')
There was even a fan theory back in the day that Smash 64 and Melee Pikachu left, and Pichu evolved to replace him, and not just the goggles costume, but all of them, with the primary evidence (as far as I remember) being that Melee Pikachu couldn't wall jump, but Pichu could, and Pikachu was able to wall jump from Brawl onward.
There’s other evidence supporting that the current Pikachu is old pichu
Like the wall jump thing
@@justsomerando4905 huh, so then what does that say about the new Picchu? Are we gonna have an endless cycle fo pichus replacing pikachus? We will ever get a Raichu?
@@CosmicToad5000 well, I’m assuming this happened.
Pikachu in 64
Pikachu gets new friend, melee
Pikachu gets old and retires, pichu grows to his age, brawl
Pichu is now Pikachu, but is alone, 4
Pikachu gets new pichu friend, ultimate
It’s a endless cycle, yes
7:30 Black Yoshi did have an origin for its inspiration. In Yoshi’s Story 64,you could play as an unlockable Black Yoshi which could eat black-colored shy guys and other poisonous objects without receiving damage,unlike the rest of the Yoshis. There was also a white-colored Yoshi who had different attributes as well.
Not to mention, there was also a black Yoshi in Yoshi’s Island (on the DS version anyway)
Black Yoshi was in Woolly World too.
@@marcusuhrich6130 damn,even more reason to actually have black yoshi
In ultimate
Nintendo cut him out because he didn't pay his taxes
@@Nintenerdo no theyre racist
if Mario's fire Mario costume was really cut because they didn't want two white alts, Sonic, Cloud, and Pac-man would have better alts by now
The third party publishers probably have guidelines on their colors
@@MeesterTweester Then how come Bayonetta, Joker and Hero all have great alternate colors and costumes
@Zac Bossler idk, their character designers could be different. I'm sure if they didn't have restrictions they would give them alts that were easily distinguishable
@@MeesterTweester
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@@zbthegamer0528 Bayo, Joker & Hero kinda aren't on the level of sheer iconicness Pac, Sonic and maybe Cloud are.
wario’s white and blue alt in brawl makes him look like the captain of a ship. now i’m imagining him making a pure gold boat and naming it the s.s. wario and then immediately crashing it into something because that’s how he is
I always thought so too!
Me too!
I always thought it was a homage to the fire mario/luigi alts, but since Wario doesn't shoot fire they didn't make it yellow, so they went with blue.
He looks similar to a character... I just don't remember what character it is
Same bro
Mario’s were cut due to colour issues
Cloud: ......
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Wait, Cloud has alts?
Wario's alts
Honestly mr detective no one fucking cares
The “rejected” Meta Knight costume was more so an evolution, both designs seem to be based on Galacta Knight, but the second version does lean more heavily into it.
I think the removal of the Wario costume also isn't as bad as the removal of fire Mario because Wario is a playable character
Exactly
But still has waluigi color scheme as an alt?
R u aware that wario has a mario alt
@@soniccreephog1819 Because Waluigi will never make it into smash ;).
Ashley demko I agree
Black Yoshi getting replaced with crafted Yoshi?
Remember that time in the future when the statue of liberty was removed and replaced by a billboard
Yeah
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Yeah.
I LIKE CRAFTED YOSHI!!!! STOP HATING ON CRAFTED YOSHI!!!!!!
@@superhappygamer1162 black Yosemite is better just like black K. Rool and Donkey Kong are better
That Meta Knight change was to more closely resemble Galacta Knight.
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There was also a Dark Meta Knight colour which later was changed to include the scar on the side of the mask in Ultimate.
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I was shocked he didn't know, he also ignored the Dark Meta Knight costume
and I swear the kirby costume that looks like meta knight was not there throughout the whole smash bros series. And it's not a "I think" it's a "I'm positive." it really sucked how he just barely acknowledged them
"Conventional Angel in the Bible" I wish we had that for Pit but that is probably more than a costume change
He’d basically be Galeem with eyes everywhere
I'm mad because they removed the jigglypuff alt with green eyes which is its shiny they could've kept that with another hat like the flower.
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alt? that was just how jiggs was up until sm4sh. i agree they should have kept it as an alt tho
*Black Yoshi got removed*
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But I LIKE Crafted Yoshi!
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@@superhappygamer1162 I like him too, but I like Black Yoshi even more, cause he is so cute.
Why didn't they replace another Yoshi with the crafted Yoshi of the same color, then each color would have been in the game and everyone would be happy.
Anoter could addition would have been replacing a Yoshi with their Wooly World version.
Dry Bowser almost made it into the game as a skin in brawl, got rejected last minute. It makes me sad, I just wanna play with him :'(
I wish dark bowser was a alternate costume
@@Galacta101 at least we have drip bowser
No no drip shut the frick up
I still remember playing Smash 4 with my friend, and I was using black Yoshi, and he was absolutely tripping... he was like “why is Yoshi throwing soccer balls??? This makes no sense!!!” and it distracted him so much that I easily beat him. Then I told him they were eggs with black spots (because the spots are the same color as his skin) and we were both just dying of laughter. Needless to say, I was heartbroken when I first saw that ⚽️ Yoshi was gone from Smash Ultimate. 😢
Character List:
Mario - 0:23 / Donkey Kong - 3:38 / Link - 3:55 / Samus - 5:56 / Yoshi - 6:30 / Kirby - 7:36 / Fox - 7:57 / Pikachu - 8:17 / Luigi - 10:16 / Captain Falcon - 10:40 / Jigglypuff - 10:54 / Princess Peach - 12:21 / Bowser - 12:39 / Ice Climbers - 14:02 / Sheik - 14:57 / Zelda - 15:51 / Dr. Mario - 16:27 / Pichu - 16:34 / Falco - 17:09 / Marth - 17:17 / Young Link - 17:19 / Ganondorf - 17:49 / Mewtwo - 18:19 / Roy and Mr. Game & Watch - 18:53 / Metaknight - 18:57 / Pit - 19:07 / ZS Samus - 19:34 / Wario - 19:56 / Ike - 21:27 / Pokemon Trainer - 22:20 / Diddy Kong - 23:04 / Lucas - 23:08 / Sonic - 23:28 / King Dedede - 23:48 / Olimar - 23:58 / Lucario, R.O.B. and Toon Link - 24:21 / Wolf - 24:26 / Villager - 25:34 / Mega Man, Wii Fit Trainer, Rosalina - 25:44 / Little Mac - 25:51 / Greninja and Palutina - 26:44 / Dark Pit - 26:48 / Pacman - 27:01 / Lucina - 27:05 / Robin - 27:19 / Shulk - 27:28 / Bowser Jr. and Duck Hunt - 27:50 / Ryu - 27:56 / Cloud, Corrin and Bayonetta - 28:28
Bonuses - 28:42
2:04 bold of you to assume nintendo cares about super mario rpg
It was Made in collaboration with square enix
Then relationships went sour
This guy: Luigi has no major modification.
Me: *Flashes back to how The Waluigi Costume's L was changed*
Wait what
I was hoping someone would say that. It pissed me off so much
Pikachu: here you go my son, i will pass on my wisdom to you
Pichu: thank you father
The Blue Bowser costume is also based on Dark Bowser from Bowser’s Inside Story.
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@@freely7810 WTF
I was wondering if anybody caught that.
I really miss that white Wolf alt, it made me think of Speed racer! I think it's worth pointing out how in Melee, the daisy alt was a true costume, adding the flower motif and alternate glove/waist models whereas in brawl and 4 it was only a recolor :(
Boy Robin's changed too, his blue and green alts have weird grayish hair now and the white mage look has brown hair instead of true black, and yellow girl Robin's hair is similarly grungy looking, I think they all looked so much better in 4 😭 I miss the old green kirby too I don't like the brown/orange shoes, and red marth having a matching red tiara! I'm also pretty sure the differences to fire luigi is because the original alt was based on his sprite from super mario bros!
I actually really liked Young Link’s black tunic. Feel like it’s distinct enough from Dark Link too.
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I prefer it
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I remember playing the pre release ultimate and noticing that Ridley lost 2 skins for the metal variants and it had me theorize that we would have unlockable skins in ultimate. Such a missed opportunity.
I’m pretty sure they just didn’t want people to be able to use the costume in the demo and instead put the colors to represent the costume. Ridley’s Meta costume was already shown back when he was revealed. It’s weird since Mario’s, Link’s, Cloud’s, and Bayonetta’s costumes were in the demo. They probably did it cause Ridley was a newcomer unlike the others.
@@Brandonrios365 or maybe the Meta Ridley model wasn't finished at the time and the 2 alts that were replaced were just placeholders
I'm honestly disappointed that pink Pit was combined with the multicolor one. His pink wings were adorable.
I miss Party Pit
I’m still mad they got rid of Cupit. That was probably my favorite Pit alt of all time
Same!
A sacrifice I'm willing to make for blond Pit 👼🏼
@@TheLuna9526 what
9:25 the reason they replaced the hat with e goggles was to honor pichu, who had the goggles skin in melee, but who was cut from brawl
Doc’s red outfit in melee was more pink then red, tho later on they were split to both a solid red and pink alt. In 4 and ultimate
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I think it actually makes sense, the red now references the red virus and pink references Dr. Peach
@@eukarya_, exactly
im just sad jiggly’s crown is gone, that was my fav
Same. Ah well, I'm fine with Nurse Jiggly.
I'm not a fan of Jigglypuff but I actually dig her skins in Melee than her skins in Brawl, Smash 4, and Ultimate.
I actually like the idea of characters with alts from other games (i.e Jigglypuff with peach's crown) cause I feel it adds to the crossover. Characters having an item that they got from another series.
Slight correction on Ganondorf, his melee look is actually lifted straight from the Spaceworld 2000 tech demo that featured Links vs Ganondorf in a sword fight and Ganondorf even uses the same sword in his win animations and would later be given that sword for his smash attacks in Ultimate.
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Yeah agreed.
Agreed
Dang straight
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Exactly he puts in a lot of work
I was SO disappointed about black Yoshi he was my favourite 😭
He's my favourite too. That's the reason I like Smash 4 more than Ultimate
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I think Pikachu got the swimmer goggles in Brawl because it's a popular theory that Brawl's Pikachu is an evolved Pichu from Melee.
"We're bringing Young Link back"
"Oh cool, I liked his black tunic alt, let's get that in after his green one!"
"No."
"Huh? Why?"
"It could be obtained through hacking. We don't want hacking"
"The game came out decades ago though..."
I doubt that was the reason
Marth has had rejected alts. The one based off of Roy in Smash 4, it got replaced by an alt based on his art from Fire Emblem 1. The teal one from Brawl which more directly references Fire Emblem 3 has either been replaced or *highly* modified, to where many of the colors aren't even the same. The black alt has also been changed to include orange.
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The light blue Link from Smash 64 makes sense as a cut. It was a throwback to the Blue Ring from Zelda 1, which sadly a lot of younger players wouldn't get. Replacing it with a BOTW outfit made a lot of sense.
They rejected the yoshi costume of the thumbnail because it was black
*lol that’s what I was thinking* but nobody on the comments want to talk about it 😆
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black yoshi lives matter
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I would LOVE if Mario turned into the Fire Mario colors whenever he used his Neutral Special, like Piranha Plant does when using his Side Special.
What about his tilt attack that lets out a fire explosion?
(20:35) Wario has been the only character so far that had two costumes per team colour, if I'm not mistaken. Smash 4 changed it so you can have any colour for your team; Brawl and earlier had specific costumes for red, blue and green, and if you changed costume, you changed team, and only had 3 costumes to pick from. But Wario had 6.
NGL I like the aesthetics of the old black tunic Link. It contrasts with his light skin and hair well.
Man. That silver and green Ridley looks awesome. It's like he dipped his claws and stuff in poison
Something I'd like to add about Luigi's alts is that in the transition from Smash 4 to Smash Ultimate his purple Waluigi alt was changed. The L on his cap was changed from yellow to purple, for one reason or another.
This honestly still wants me to think that idea of Smash Brothers Ultimate having a customizable alternate costume system in which you can create 8 more palette swaps so you can put in the fire mario alt..or that pikachu with the top hat for some reason. Just adding more variety.
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Yeah I wish it had a color creator like Rivals of Aether
Like rivals
@@DavionLane Haven't played it..but yes.
17:18 Actually, Marth does have quite a few changes. The white alt gradually looked less like Leif from Thracia 776, Marth's sixth alt in Brawl that was a reference to his sprite from the NES game got changed to an all blue alt in Smash 4, and he had a gold alt that was changed to look like Roy's gold alt from Melee in Smash 4. A reference to the NES game was added back into Marth's alts in Ultimate, but this time it's in reference to his official art (AKA No Pants Marth)
You’re one of the only you tubers that consistently gets more viewers than subs
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Thats good cuz he gets views but sad cuz he deserves more subs
Views are what pay the bills, so it's not too bad
@@NinjaPickle true those sub bots are pointless lol
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Little Mac's "yellow outfit" isn't a reference to the P2 outfit in Punch Out Wii, it's a reference to Little Mac's Tittle Defense outfit after beating all the other characters and winning the championship. And his "standard blue" outfit is a reference to his Major Circuit outfit. Don't know if he knows this, but I felt like the way he explained these two made them sound like generic color changes without much meaning.
“No rejected costumes for Roy or Mr. Game and Watch” 😔 no one remembers cyan game and watch not even youtubers
@@lmao7562 random question are you colorblind
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@@lmao7562 listen man they can call it cyan all they want to, put the brawl version next to the ultimate version they’re completely different colors. he’s exactly one color and nothing else I don’t think this can be considered “evolution” it’s just like objectively a different color and it’s a crime. give it back god forbid we have a bright mr game and watch alt that isn’t just grey
@@biben10 It's just slightly shaded darker lol, there still the exact same color.
@@LuigiLitoLL clearly the color isn’t close enough for the general player base to consider it the same color and has led to people missing and asking for the old one, like me and everyone that liked this comment. if you want to be a stickler and start arguments fine but the fact is people want the old one back and if they were actually so close in color that they’re the same it wouldn’t happen
The blue goggles started on Pichu in Melee, and then got switched to Pikachu in Brawl. Arguably, the costume was not switched, but rather, Pichu simply evolved into Pikachu, and the Pichu in Melee is the Pikachu in Brawl.
The blonde Pit looks like your typical angel imagery, sure, but sure as hell not biblically accurate, the closest things to those eldritch horrors would be Galeem and Darkhon.
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This video made me realize how much actual thought and reference is put into these alternate costumes. I just used to think they were all just meant to be “hey cool more colors”
Fun fact that metaknight in ultimate alt is actually based on glactanight
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27:20 Would like to add that Robin's blue alt now resembles Morgan.
EDIT: also, they took the hearts off the boots for Lucina's Nowi alt.
I’d still love to see a costume DLC. I don’t know how many people would want it, but I’d definitely drop some money on that.
The blue-red Mario swap is also a callback to his older design in his earlier games. (SMB1, 2, and Lost Levels for example)
13:31 don't think it don't say it
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1:55 Except Peach has exactly this. In fact, I'd say peach's is worse than Mario's would've been. She has one completely white costume, and one that's white with a red trim on her dress and umbrella. Mario's wedding outfit has a completely different outfit, and his Fire is pretty distinguishable since it's primarily red. Peach's are the same model, both primarily white.
Peach should had her wedding dress from Odyssey instead of just a white version of her dress
Blue Mario is based off his appearance in Mario Bros. *the best costume*
An idea that I just thought of which I think would be a good improvement to the current set colour swap system, is a fully customisable colour setting for each character. For example if you picked fox you can pick his for colour and visor colour separately amongst a group of options provided.
The Choice Band Pikachu I always thought was neat because it was also a shiny Pikachu in a game where all the other Pokemon characters lacked their shiny forms (since Incineroar, Squirtle, and Ivysaur weren’t in Smash 4)
Surprised with not addressing the whole "Brawl Pikachu is Melee Pichu" theory.
because that is just a theory
A GAME THEORY!
wouldnt call it rejected, more like discontinued since "rejected makes it sound like they weren't in to begin with
also I want swimsuits for Pyra and Mythra, missed opportunity
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Unfortunately this is a game for good boys and girls.
Super Smash Bros is a game for good boys and girls of all ages
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0:37 I always figured this was supposed to reference his appearance as Jumpman in Donkey Kong just with a blue hat.
You could also say the blue hat is a reference to the original Mario Bros arcade game.
Sonic has a Purple alt that is a reference to the Sega Saturn game Nights into Dreams
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@@ykimaxx i have it for the sega saturn it was ported to dreamcast
I know you can't really change the resolution of some of the images, but the blurriness does disorient me while watching. But I enjoyed how much in details you went in for every single costume.
I actually thought the white/navy Wario was one of the best alternates he could have had.
17:53 You forgot that in Smash 4, he has the wound he received in Twilight Princess when the sages tried to execute him.
I would've preferred Mario gaining an Ice Mario alt had that meant losing Fire Mario. Kinda wish Ice Luigi was also a thing.
pour one out for red-haired Anna!Robin
edit: so i know every youtuber puts that subscriber count graph in their videos, but holy shit, i had no clue how few subscribers you have compared to your average view count. massively underrated my guy.
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I don’t think there’s any bias towards Kirby tbh he still has only three reps
I miss swimmer pikachu, He was always my favorite
As a veteran Yoshi main, losing black Yoshi was an astronomically horrific, mind-boggling-ly cataclysmic event. Rip.
RIP best skin😔🙏🏼
Not giving peach her wedding dress from SMO was a big missed opportunity imo. Mario gets the tux and the fact peach cant rock her giant poofy dress is a big letdown...
I have a feeling that black had another reason: if your a fan of sml ,you should remember black yoshi in the old sml channel.Before SSBU came sml got nuked by nintendo. And thought that less people will play the game with the black yoshi alt.
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This change of the mask might actually be a reference to the character Galata Knight. A reoccurring character that is most often seen fighting Meta Knight.
I grew up watching SML so when Black Yoshi was removed it really took away a part of my childhood.
“The blonde haired alt which is based on a conventional angel’s depiction in the bible”
Last I checked pit wasnt a ball of fire surrounded with massive rings covered in eyes that had four wings and said “𝕭𝕰 𝕹𝕺𝕿 𝕬𝕱𝕽𝕬𝕴𝕯"
Or a four-headed furry wearing robes of molten gold...
19:03 the color in smash 4 was supposed to reference galacta knight and now it looks a lot like him
Amazing video! I wanted to point out an incredibly big misconception about Mewtwo's Melee green alt, however. Melee's Green Mewtwo, even having a big resemblence, is not based in the actual shiny Mewtwo. At the time Melee came out, Gold and Silver were the newest games, where he didn't had that green as the shiny, but rather the yellow one Smash 4 and Ultimate has. The green one in Ultimate was basically made just for the Green Team slot I think.
Aside from that, I couldn't find anything off of any of your explanations. Really miss the old Bowser alts and Wario Mario, too. As said before, great video, love me some alts
-Isn’t Kirby’s god-kill-count in the double digits? I think it makes perfect sense for him to be the sole survivor in WOL, bias aside
-fun cpt. falcon Easter egg! Each of his alts in Melee have slightly different collision boxes. (Citation: AsumSaus’s “high-tier oddities” Video, iirc)
-I thought the blue bowser was based on dark bowser from inside story! But imposter bowser is cool, something I didn’t know about.
-Someone else said this here, but the purple Sm4sh design was a reference to Galacta knight. They changed it to more closely resemble him in ultimate, and added a scar to the dark MK’s mask too. (They also changed the sword colors!)
-Ike’s white clothes & blue cape might be a reference to Sigurd, another FE protagonist, but idk
Thanks for the video! Very interesting and a good watch :)
Joker needs alts based on all of the Phantom Thieves and not just Akechi’s costume before he is revealed as the true culprit.
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Them cutting Black Yoshi hurts my feelings everytime I use him.
Me too. That's why I play Smash Bros 4 more often than Ultimate, cause it hurts my feeling more to not see him in a 8-fighter-Fight with all Yoshi alters.
Black Yoshi is in my top 3 Yoshi.
19:00 He doesn't know Galacta Knight 😭
Sad
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Bro I know you worked hard on this video. Absolutely great work man, keep it up!
Thanks a ton!
My least favorite cut was Ike's RD white alt that looked like Chrom. I understand they had to limit Ike's alts that came from Brawl and 4 due to half his Ult alts being PoR and the other half being RD, plus Chrom is actually in the game now, but white RD Ike was a favorite of mine because I love the white swordsman look. I always pick the white alt when using Marth and Chrom. I like the elegance of clean swordplay and white fits that so well IMO.
Omg same I love playing fire emblem characters in their white alts
19:05 the change happened because the alt is now based on the Galacta Knight character from the kirby series.
The pikachu with bandana was my main alt in smash 4. I wish it were in ultimate too
He was one of my main alts too. It was one of the best Pikatchu versions in the Smash Bros series.
I've put forward this idea and I think it could work. Let's first establish that some characters have "model swap", like Mario having his default model in 6 variants, then a builder and wedding model.
- So expand the options from 8 to a possible 16 outfits. You hold down the R/L button and press down to skip straight from outfit 1 to 9.
- For every character which has 2 models split evenly 4 each; with are commonly the male-female variants: Bayonetta, Byleth, Cloud, Corrin, Ike, Olimar, Piranha Plant, Pokémon Trainer, Robin, Wario, Wii Fit Trainer. But not Inkling or Villager since they have more than 2 models, nor Shulk, Ridley or more since they don't have an equal 4-4 split. Now, take the ones mentioned and make the model 1 be outfits 1-4 and model 2 be outfits 9-12. Now add 4 colour variants to each model to expand the options. For example if a colour is exclusive to one model, give it to the other. It doesn't matter if some alts look similar since you have 16 total to select from. In the case of Wii Fit Trainer, female version could have 5-8 represent Wii Fit U.
- For characters with just a few special models, usually just 1 or 2, like Joker, Little Mac, Mario, Pac Man, Ridley, Sephiroth, Shulk, Steve, Zero Suit Samus; if they have 1 extra model like Joker and Ridley, make it be 9-12 and add alternative colours to fill it out, leave 13-16 blank for the future, and if they have 2 extra models like Mario and Pac Man, make the first extra be 9-12, the second extra be 13-16 and add extra colours.
- For characters having all unique models like Bowser Jr., Inkling, Jigglypuff, Pichu, Pikachu; make 9-16 match the models of 1-8, but of course with alternative colours.
- For characters having 4 models, where the second half repeats with alternative colours, like for Hero, Inkling, do the same where 9-16 is the same as 1-8 with alternative colours.
- Finally for all other characters without any extra models; for now, leave 9-16 blank. Then release DLC costumes for these. Follow the pattern and release one costume covering 9-12 and possibly a second for 13-16. Alternative costumes can be Dry Bowser, Mr. L, Gooigie, Shadow the Hedgehog, Tennis Peach/Daisy, Strikers Peach/Daisy, Wii Fit U trainer mentioned before, and more ideas.
This idea will make the base model cover 1-8 for almost all characters, and 9-16 being alternative outfits that requires a new model; with the exception for those already having 4+ models in the game.
Adding to this, Crafted Yoshi could be counted as a different model, so you could move it to 9-12, give it 3 other colour variants, and then add back the black Yoshi.
1:09 I hate this change.
the reason is that the colour flipped Mario actually got into a New Super Mario Bros game as the Ice Flower power up colour palette.
The Foreman Spike themed alt for Mario turning black actually can be a reference to Wrecking Crew 98 version for Foreman Spike who's clothes has turned darker near black.
man.
pour one out for chocolate mario, the king skin for puff, and the white knight ike
That was my fav mario :'c I thought of him more like coffee tho lol
When all 8 alternate costumes are used in an 8 player FFA on a big stage when the camera is far out the similar colors can become a bit of an issue.
This is why they started removing these going in ssb4 for wii u instead of worrying about that in brawl or something.
I really wish we either got a whole new character in cat mario or cat peach or a costume for it!
I really liked the black Bowser alt from Melee, kinda sad to see it has changed. In particular I liked it because when you fought Bowser in Adventure Mode, he would have the black look if you got there in time for the Giga Bowser fight, with him looking normal if you didn't. So that color was a sign of success!
To reach Giga Bowser you have to play Adventure Mode at Normal Difficulty or higher, get there within 18 minutes or less, and without using continues.
Im pretty sure sakurai is gonna take mario and luigi’s waluigi alts in the next smash game just to piss us of
Your correct about how a alt doesn't need a reference. And it anybody disagrees they should know some characters don't really have options for a reference. Such as falcon.
“It takes all colors to make a rainbow, except black, there’s no black in a rainbow”
-the smash team
"that's because your a dog luigi"
There are some things in this video I disagree with, mostly based on what the inspiration is.
1. Link and Zelda's "white" alts would actually be lavender, since they're based on the original game, when Link rescues Zelda while equipped with the Blue Ring (they're listed as white on Smash Wiki's Melee costumes page, but lavender elsewhere). Link's alt stayed through Brawl, and then was replaced by the deeper purple that could be based on an alternate costume in Soul Calibur II; while Zelda's seems to have been replaced with her pink Ocarina alt in Brawl and Smash 4, before being re-added in Ultimate.
2. Missed opportunity to mention the fan theory that the Pikachu in Brawl evolved from Pichu in Melee. May or may not actually be why the goggles replaced the hat in Brawl, though there's no explanation for why it has both in the next game.
3. More of a nitpick, but I wouldn't say Ike's base alt was removed in 4 considering he was updated to match his newer game. Since you already mentioned the costume update from Brawl to Smash 4, it seemed redundant to mention it being removed and then re-added.
Otherwise, fun video
Pichu has the goggles in melee. Pichu got cut for brawl. They just brought over the goggles to pikachu.