My cold hardy palms ranked!

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  • Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
  • My cold hardy palms ranked by cold hardiness! Sabal birmingham, Sabal brazorensis, Sabal louisiana, Butia capitata, Trachycarpus wagnerianus and more! Cold hardiness can vary and these are my personal opinions/observations so keep that in mind.
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    00:00 - Intro
    01:12 - Mule palm
    02:06 - Butia capitata
    03:17 - Sabal palmetto
    04:26 - trachycarpus wagnerianus
    05:11 - Trachycarpus fortunei
    06:49 - Sabal louisiana
    07:42 - Sabal brazoriensis
    08:19 - Sabal birmingham
    09:21 - Sabal minor
    10:25 - Needle palm

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  • @tntropics
    @tntropics  Рік тому +3

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  • @KD-cg9iq
    @KD-cg9iq 2 роки тому +8

    I can surely recommend Jubaea Chilensis , it survived a prolonged day and night freezing period of several days down to -9 degrees Celsius here in Belgium.
    Subbed !

    • @timmillan6701
      @timmillan6701 2 роки тому

      Jubaea is my favorite palm. Unfortunately, it does not like the heat and humidity of Tennessee and the south/southeast in general. They grow much better in Europe and the northwest UnitedStates. I have lived and tried Jubaea in both areas- much better in Seattle, where the are some decent size specimens. The best in the US are in the San Francisco Bay Area of California

  • @northeasthardytropicals541
    @northeasthardytropicals541 Рік тому

    Dude the palms looks phenomenal. I agree with the list, great stuff.

  • @weswall7737
    @weswall7737 2 роки тому +4

    I definitely agree with the rankings on this list that sabal Birmingham is prob my favorite palm that is long term in Tennessee although I have a lot of different species

  • @westkentuckypalmguy1994
    @westkentuckypalmguy1994 2 роки тому +3

    Your palms look amazing. I have all the same palms as you in zone 7a also except my mule is still in a pot. Cold hardiness has so many variables like wet or dry, soil
    Drainage, sun or shade etc. I would recommend to protect all your palms the 1st 3 years so they get established well and to mount some of the palms to
    Help with drainage will help with their survival

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  2 роки тому

      Thanks and you're so right on

  • @realstatistician
    @realstatistician 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for the info!

  • @user-wq3zg7uk2z
    @user-wq3zg7uk2z Рік тому

    Nice collection 👍👍

  • @danagaut-ez6ob
    @danagaut-ez6ob Рік тому

    I have 2 pindo palms and love them they are very hardy. I live in east Texas and they both survived 2 degrees back in Feb of 21' when we had an artic blast for 5 days. They were both covered but still had a lot of damage from the cold. They both lost all their fronds / turned completely brown. Both went through spear pulls and I treated them with hydrogen peroxide for about 6 weeks or so. By Summer they completely recovered and were thriving again. I highly recommend it especially here in Texas.

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  Рік тому

      That's a pretty good result.

  • @TaelaaGaming
    @TaelaaGaming 2 роки тому +1

    Great list! Love your channel as I planted palms in Tennessee zone 7a this year as well. I have 2 Trachy fortunei, 2 needle palms, and 2 sabal minors.

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks! That's a really great lineup for 7a. Check my videos for protection on the Trachy. The needles might need protecting if they are small for 1-2 years as they can spear pull until established. Try to beef them up this year with a good fertilizer in a month after planting. I have a fertilizer video soon

    • @TaelaaGaming
      @TaelaaGaming 2 роки тому

      @@tntropics thanks for the advice! They have already survived one frost since planted. Oddly enough, the only ones that took any damage were the sabal minors. I didn't know there were different sabal minor varieties until this video. I wonder which kind I got!

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  2 роки тому

      @@TaelaaGaming There are lots of different ones/sizes. They may have transplant shock and not cold damage. Any name on them?

    • @TaelaaGaming
      @TaelaaGaming 2 роки тому

      @@tntropics Dwarf Blue Stem?

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  2 роки тому

      @@TaelaaGaming That's just a standard Sabal minor name as they are sometimes called Dwarf palmetto or blue stem palmetto. Sometimes they have a name like "Sabal minor 'McCurtain' " which can indicate their size and possible cold hardiness. My baby ones went thru all winter. Look at ua-cam.com/video/lymcPpsM1PM/v-deo.html :47

  • @justhereforthefoliage
    @justhereforthefoliage 2 роки тому

    Looks good, totally agree! Everything looks great! Good job!
    Believe it or not, there are actually Windmill’s here in Cincinnati that have survived at least one +0.3°F winter completely unprotected!

    • @Salmiyaguy1
      @Salmiyaguy1 Рік тому +1

      I couldn't find so many varieties of sabals or Trachys here in Canada. They usually just have Fortunei and your standard Sabal minor or Cabbage palm. I envy those who can find different varieties within species of palms. I would like to plant a Trachy Winsan but I would be hard pressed to find one here.

    • @justhereforthefoliage
      @justhereforthefoliage Рік тому

      @@Salmiyaguy1 With protection, you can grow a TON!

  • @petercarmody4897
    @petercarmody4897 2 місяці тому

    I'm checking out your other videos, thanks

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  2 місяці тому

      Awesome, thank you!

  • @subtropikirf
    @subtropikirf 8 місяців тому

    Your video is the best and most visual material about cold hardy palms which I saw. I thought that Trachycarpus wagnerianus is more cold hardy than usual trachycarpus. I have a Sabal minor palm in my 7b zone and it's really wonderful tree!

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  8 місяців тому

      Thanks so much. Usually the T. wagnerianus are not as hardy as the fortunei from what I have seen but they are so close a individual one could be hardier.

  • @Pick710
    @Pick710 2 роки тому +1

    Very informative content for us zone pushers! I had a question about your pygmy date palms, where do you place them inside over winter? Do they get indirect light and how often do you water them in the winter?

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks. it goes in the garage under 32F and is watered every 2 weeks. I have 4' fluorescent tube grow lights in there but they can do somewhat ok without anything. it needs to be brought out early and possibly sun acclimated over a week or 2 or brought out when cloudy rainy to prevent sunburn in spring. I like the potted Trachy pretty good because they can stay out so much longer down to 25F or so which doesn't sound like much but end up being a month in fall and a month in spring.

    • @Pick710
      @Pick710 2 роки тому

      @@tntropics OK that definitely helps. Have you ever experimented with greenhouse storage for more tropical palms like pygmys? I'm wondering if the direct light would burn the palms since they go into a dormant state. I would keep temperatures between 45-50 at night. Any advice would be great!

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  2 роки тому

      @@Pick710 Haven't put any in a greenhouse. Don't have one. A unheated greenhouse can get cold in winter. But they should like it if over 40F I think. Mid 20's may equal dead.

  • @theweirdospfan.28
    @theweirdospfan.28 Місяць тому

    Would you mind me asking what biggest city you are closest to in TN?

  • @careyjohnston4176
    @careyjohnston4176 7 місяців тому

    This area your growing your palms in looks like a good representation of hardiness with the exposure. Thank you very much . When I suggest a great place to order and find out information on plants I choose Plant Delights nursery Tony Avent has been very helpful. He has over 27 thousand plants growing and possibly saving many from extinction by promoting propagation in different areas of the world instead of relying conservation where they are indigenous.

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  7 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the comment. Yes PD is a good place to get a lot of variety of plants.

  • @Salmiyaguy1
    @Salmiyaguy1 Рік тому

    What kind of bamboo do you have? I love the one beside the needle palm at 11:04. What variety is that one and how hardy is it? what is the hardiest bamboo you would recommend?

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  Рік тому

      Depends on your zone and where you live. If you live in the southeast US I am putting out a video today. Look for it.

  • @palmdaddy
    @palmdaddy 2 місяці тому

    Great video! For us in the pacific northwest the sabals outshine the needles…so far

  • @pawelkoodziejczak5105
    @pawelkoodziejczak5105 2 роки тому +1

    Wow, beautiful palms 👍, sub-🖐🇵🇱

  • @vistaprime
    @vistaprime Рік тому

    hi what is the variety of bamboo you have with the yellow cane?

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  Рік тому

      Spectabilis a running bamboo hardy to zone 6

  • @joshbrown1636
    @joshbrown1636 2 місяці тому

    I live in zone 6a in Illinois I was thinking of getting either a sabal miner or needle palm which one would do the best?

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  2 місяці тому

      If it's the current usda zone 6a in IL you will probably have to protect both. Small needles need protection for a couple years till they can take down to -10F. S. minor will do better with spear pull but need protecting under 5F for best results. Both will need to be located within 3' of a south facing house wall for best outcome.

    • @joshbrown1636
      @joshbrown1636 2 місяці тому

      @@tntropics thanks for the info! and yes it is the current zone last winter we got to -13 one night so will be protecting them for some years

  • @squamataman
    @squamataman 2 роки тому +1

    I thought waggies were supposed to be more hardy than the standard fortunei, not less. Also, is there a reason you don't have a Chamaerops?

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  2 роки тому +1

      In my experience waggy are not as hardy here one reason because they grow slower. Chamaerops I don't want to try to protect the multi trunk.

  • @Kjhggfdsertyu
    @Kjhggfdsertyu 7 місяців тому

    Thanx for sharing all the information! Would you be interested in selling the seeds of these palms - Rhapidophyllum hystrix, Sabal Birmingham, Sabal minor, Sabal Luisiana and Trachycarpus fortunei and ship to Europe?

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  7 місяців тому

      I can’t ship to Europe so sorry

  • @HelloThere-zl5bi
    @HelloThere-zl5bi 2 роки тому +1

    Is brazoria, brazoriensis, and texensis all the same palm? Just different names, or are they all different?

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  2 роки тому

      Not sure about the texensis but the 1st 2 are the same

  • @gts7355
    @gts7355 Рік тому

    @TN Tropics
    Do you sell seedlings or seeds?

  • @rhombifer566
    @rhombifer566 4 місяці тому

    🌴 🥶 interesting 🤔

  • @mckatelynchristensen
    @mckatelynchristensen 8 місяців тому

    I heard sabal Palmetto that arrive large but With leaves and roots cut off aren’t as hard as pot grown ones

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  8 місяців тому

      You are exactly right and large ones like that take 2-3 years to establish

  • @rhombifer566
    @rhombifer566 4 місяці тому

    I have a sable minor Palm tre grow in Ohio for over probably 15 years but all it does is shoot maybe one leaf out of the ground each year that's about it dies back each year

  • @JetSettingBotanist
    @JetSettingBotanist 9 місяців тому +1

    There are some needles and s. minors here in Oklahoma that survived -12F in 2021. Unprotected

  • @teeedog1
    @teeedog1 2 роки тому

    Great video !
    Do you think the trachycarpus fortunei will do ok in 7b zone ?

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  2 роки тому +1

      If a US based 7b zone it may need protection on some years (2 out of 10) but if sited well might get away with no protection. 7b is where Trachycarpus fortunei can start being on their own

    • @teeedog1
      @teeedog1 2 роки тому

      @@tntropics thanks coldest it gets here is 25*
      Maybe snows once for a day if that during the whole winter . NM Albuquerque

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  2 роки тому +1

      @@teeedog1 I looked up your weather history and you had a 9/10F in 2018/2019 winter. I saw recent dips to 18F which is fine for a established Trachycarpus. Mine go thru that multiple times. Other than that looked pretty good. With your summer heat you might consider planting in morning sun/afternoon shade if possible otherwise sun will be ok with ample water. Protect when small if temps look to go under 21F until the palm gets a full sized trunk and is growing 10+ fronds/year and you will be good. A winter like 2018/2019 would endanger a small palm and might hurt fronds on a larger one. Overall you are pretty good to go though if you use common sense.

    • @teeedog1
      @teeedog1 2 роки тому +1

      @@tntropics I really appreciate your knowledge and look forward to more videos thank you! I will be planting some now in the spring .

    • @teeedog1
      @teeedog1 2 роки тому

      @@tntropics how would I know it is safe to plant In ground with not of a lot of protection ? I bought 2 they are in 15 gallon pots pretty big

  • @weswall7737
    @weswall7737 2 роки тому +1

    You think Louisiana can survive dips in the negatives?

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  2 роки тому +1

      Negative F you better protect it, at least the growing point, fronds will be damaged. A pile of dry leaves or hardwood mulch would probably save it.

    • @cincytropics
      @cincytropics Рік тому

      I know for a fact that they can!

  • @solonlysander2180
    @solonlysander2180 Рік тому

    Interesting that you do not have any Sago Palms. Or perhaps you do ? Here in Charlotte, NC., I have three (3) Sago Palms and while they do get damaged fronds in the winter (they are a zone 8 palm), every spring I cut off the old fronds and the Sago will "flush" with new fronds.

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  Рік тому

      While commonly called a palm, Sago's are Cycads. Some people have them here in pots but I don't have one. I know a few people that have luck with them or cover them. 7A is pushing it for them

    • @solonlysander2180
      @solonlysander2180 Рік тому

      @@tntropics To be fair, cycads, are referred to as "palmlike" woody gymnospermous plants that constitute the order Cycadales. While not officially a "palm", I think they are very cool looking. I have not had to cover mine here in Charlotte. The fronds will turn brown if the winter is cold enough, but I will cut them off in the spring and the Sago will flush with new green fronds. To each there own. : )

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  Рік тому

      @@solonlysander2180 Yea nothing wrong with them, maybe you took my comment the wrong way. They do great in a desertscape type planting. I'd have to cover it in winter here I think.

  • @eijiroinouye4115
    @eijiroinouye4115 6 місяців тому

    Is Jubae on this lost?

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  6 місяців тому +1

      I don't have one

  • @icboom1413
    @icboom1413 2 роки тому

    Can sabal minor and needle palms grow in zone 6b?

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  2 роки тому +1

      Yes

    • @icboom1413
      @icboom1413 2 роки тому

      @@tntropics what about brazoria and Louisiana palmettos and what about windmills or wagnerianus palms

    • @tntropics
      @tntropics  2 роки тому

      @@icboom1413 Those will all need protection. The Louisiana might get by most years

  • @tomnatortomnator883
    @tomnatortomnator883 2 роки тому +1

    Mexican fan palm is also very hardy

  • @Jynx215
    @Jynx215 3 місяці тому

    Chinese fan palms can supposedly survive as perennials as far north as Chicago