All Terrain Tire Comparison. Cooper Discoverer AT3 4S, Discoverer AT3 LT, Discoverer AT3 XLT.
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- This is a Comparison of the three new variations of the Cooper Discoverer AT3. I like how Cooper has approached the tire delivering different features and benefits to different types of customers instead of having a one tire fits all type of approach. Cooper is a quality tire manufacturer that is based in the United States. See the links below if you want to look at the tires in more detail. If you need a set, click the Tire Buyer Link below.
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This video is 5 years old . And it’s still awesome in 2023 I came back to see the difference between the xlt and LT great video thank you
Thanks for watching!
Same for me in 2024
This video helped me buy a set of AT3 4s for my 19 Dodge Durango, and now I came back to reconfirm my purchase of XLT’s for my new titan pro 4x!
The best and most extensive tire reviews out there. Thank you for all the great information. I never knew so much thought went into tires. I’m 42 and have overlooked how important a good tire is.great video
Thank you for resolving what was a mystery to me.
You're welcome!
Thank you for the info and redirecting me to this video! I kept looking for some proper review for cooper and this was the best! I`ll go for the AT3 4S on my hilux after seeing this :)
Awesome!
I've ran these Cooper Discoverer AT3 LT tires on my half-ton GMC 4x4 since 2015. I rotate my tires every 5,000 miles and I've gone through 2 sets since 2015. I live on 50 miles of heavy gravel, plus I hunt and get firewood so need off-trail in dry and mud...then head to town for groceries on the highway. I also live in Montana so have winter ice & snow conditions to deal with. I can NOT say enough GOOD things about these tires. I've had an average of 55,000 miles on each set. This last set that I'm about to change out has 61,000 miles on them! Great job on these tires, Cooper!
This review has helped me greatly in deciding which of these cooper tires to purchase. Very good video and great explanation of each tire and scientific analysis spoken in laymens terms
Glad I could help!
I have the at3 4s on my Tacoma and have had no issues going on 3 years and hardly any wear. These tires are amazing ! The wet weather we get here in Virginia is very unpredictable and these tires are very sure-footed in wet conditions.
Great to know this. I recently purchased the 4S in 255/75/17 for my 2nd Gen Tacoma and I haven't really put it to the test. My first impression was I thought it was fairly quiet during my road trip to southern CA.
I'm going with LT version, only because I've split sidewalls a few times on basic off road.
Great to know I ordered a set for my 21 Tacoma up here in Jersey.
I have older AT3’s on my older Silverado and love them.
I’m hoping to feel the same with them on my Tacoma
It truly is a fantastic tire 4 trucks in my family have them. Great tire for fl. Wet conditions. Great mileage, low noise, believe it or not it does great in mudding florida roads and wet grasses.
Great to hear! Which series did you get?
@b g
@@nathanaelnicol1256 at3 LT
Thanks. I think this is next for me
This was a very helpful review perfectly explaining the tire differences and purposes
My favorite all terrain is the AT3 4S. It provides a great balance between highway and all terrain.
Thanks for the feedback!
Mine are incredible in the snow, iv been so surprised
How are the HS towing??? I’m looking for a new tire for my 15 Yukon and I tow a 7800 lb camper…
I have the older version the A/T3 and they worked great in the snow, off road in mud and, and on the street. With pretty low road noise.
They chop up a little though. The new ones are suppose to be better.
I have a 2016 Ford F350 Club Cab with original tires: Tire
Size: LT275/65R20/E
Michelin - LTX A/T2 with 39000 miles on the Truck &
Tires. A tire just blew on the highway today 6/17/2021 and caused quite a bit
of damage to the Rear Fender. It was on the highway and the temp was 105 F and my
speed was 70 MPH.
Now I don't know what to do I don't trust the other tires on
the Truck!!! However, they are supposed to run 60,000 miles. These are supposed
to be the best tires you can buy. List price on these tires is over 500.00
each. but now I am thinking of changing Brands!
Plus, I have all this damage to my Truck. I do have pictures
of everything.
Note: There was a very large Explosion when the tire blew
without any warning.
I was still about 100 miles from Home. So, I put on the
spare, stopped at the first stop I could about 2 miles down the road to check
the tire pressure on the spare. It only had 45 lbs. of air. So, I added air to
the spare and continued home without any more issues.
I just bought the at3 for my expedition today. And we had a lake effect snow event last night with a foot of snow. I'm very happy with the way they handle snow and ice. That wagon goes like a tank.
Awesome! Thank you for your feedback.
@@CampusautoCo op
You should try an actual snow tire sometime
@@gary0050 I'm sure snow tires would take it to a new level. The roads are usually cleared pretty quick.
I just had a set of Discoverer AT3 XLTs installed on my F 150 and I love them. Smooth and quiet and they look great.
Great to hear!
put them on my F150 rides good but I feel every crack and bump in the road. Do you???
@@Steven_ologist these are a heavier duty tire. The ride is a little rougher but I'm going down the road with my motorcycles in tow the truck rides great and even so when I'm hauling a ton of gravel or dirt.
Cooper tires are so under rated in the off road/ truck community they really are great tires
Totally agree!
Probably because they're relatively new.
They’re heavy though
Recently purchased a set of at3 lt for my gmc 2500hd.Shop owner said I couldn’t go wrong with the Coopers and several customers in the store agreed.Thanks for the recommendation
Good stuff
Good review of these tires. I have a full set of the AT3 XLT's on my 2015 Ford F350 which is a 4 door cab, 8ft bed, 4wd and electronic locking differential, and 20" stock rims just to set the baseline. I have towed fully loaded 5th wheel trailers through the mud in Florida after endless rainy days and weeks using these tires. I mainly credit the sidewall for being the reason I don't get stuck besides the obvious aggressive tread pattern. They handle great on the road loaded or empty. They ride very quiet and it has no vibration. I recommend these all day, any day, for someone who has trucks similar to mine regardless of brand.
How are they in the sand?
I run these on my Rubicon gladiator in 285/75/18 and I couldn’t be any more impressed
They are fantastic in heavy rain and sand
You think the XLT are over kill for a 1500
Great information! Thank you for what you do! 👍
My Pleasure. Thank you for watching.
Been a copper fan boy my whole life run their line up on every car I’ve ever had and never been let down!!
Can't go wrong with Cooper!
Went with AT3 4S. Glad I did. Wow they feel amazing. Put on A 2019 Chevy traverse. Whole different feel now 🤙🏼
How is Road/highway noise?
Excellent review thank you! 😎👍
My pleasure!
Just put the at3 4s on my 2016 f150. Smooth ride and very quiet. Thanks for the info on these tires. Very good in the snow and rain. Good looking tire.
Glad to help
Did u go through snow ??
Tires did very well in the snow. Still very quiet and never hydroplaned in the rain. Very nice looking tire also.
@@JUSTJESSE-sx7ib yeah I’m debating on the at3 4s and the falken widepeaks at3
Do you tow at all with the 4s?
I love the XLT’s on my truck. It’s almost always on the highway but I still go off-road to go camping on the weekends. The LT construction gives me the confidence to go over rough terrain.
Right on
How was the road noise
@@angeljose6261 Tire noise is very minimal. It is comparable to the highway tires that came with my truck.
How about MPG? Any effect on that??
Great information Thank you !!!!
Thanks for this video.
Thanks for the comparison. Really helps explain where the Cooper website leaves me wondering. Missed that red sharpie though.
I love my Cooper Discoverer AT3 LT's. I have a 1997 K2500 Suburban. We load up the family and tow the boat over several mountain passes here in Washington state. These tires handle everything we throw at them; snow, heavy rain, towing, forest service roads, slippery boat ramps, and long highway trips all with out issue and very little cabin noise. I've owned KO2 and hated them, couldn't wait to get them off my vehicle. I will be replacing my tires this fall and Coopers AT3 LT's will be going back on the Burban.
No dog in this fight besides just ordering the LTs, but I'm curious what made you dislike the KO2 so much.
@@anthonycrots2161 Totally fare question. I bought a pare for my Jeep TJ in 2004 timeframe. I know a long time ago and yes they’ve made improvements to them since then but the hype/cult following was the same back then. For me they gave my light soft top Jeep a very rough ride. They felt heavy compared to other tires I’ve had. The tried pattern clogged easily and became slicks. Even aired down they felt square, limiting traction. Now with that being said the Jeep is a very light vehicle. I’m sure I would had better performance in a slightly heavier vehicle. I’ve known a lot of Tacoma guys run them them and like them. But for me they didn’t work well in the Jeep and for even heavier vehicles like my K2500 Suburban I prefer the Coopers.
Nice informative video with some good technical information and an educated opinion
Thanks!
Thanks for the helpful explanation.
My pleasure!
Great review, thanks!
My pleasure.
Nice video thank you!
Hello. I am leaning toward the Coopers rather than the K02 mainly for price but also because, I currently run Cooper and they have met all my needs. I find it interesting when talking about airing down the tire for more traction, you were on the XLT tire (which i think is 10 ply) I was thinking about geting a 10 ply tire, not for towing, but for increased traction when air down for increased traction, such as when you are stuck in snow or mud. I am at times out on off road roads or trails alone in my truck and getting stuck is something I try to avoid. But when stuck do you know if airing down a 10 ply tire versus a non 10 ply such as the AT3 4S is any difference in traction when trying to get unstuck? Thanks!
Nicely done video
I fit 315/75 r16 in my silverado 02 vortec 4.3 ... looks great, awesome tire durability !
Awesome!
Good to see this review - just ordered some AT3 LT's for my 2003 Expedition - I couldn't say no to the price and this review sealed the deal.
Thank you for the detailed video!
Glad it was helpful!
@@CampusautoCo Definitely! I'll have to do a video of them in the future!
Thanks for the video. I have BFG KO2's on my 2006 4x4 2500HD duramax, and ran them in snow and desert, towing boats and trailers, and I am replacing them after 9500 miles with the ATS3 Cooper, they are completely worn out even though I rotated them as per manufactures specifications. My Son's Truck is a 1/2 ton with a lift kit, and he didn't do much better with his KO2's. He also pulled trailers and such. My 1994 Jeep ZJ has the KO2"s, and they are fine after 15K miles. Pretty sure it has something to do with the weight of the vehicle, and towing / hauling. Going to give the Coopers a go because I have had good luck with the Dick Cepek Mountain cats that they no longer make, and they were a cooper tire made for Cepek.
BFG had a problem with the tread compound and accelerated wear with some sizes. They changed the compound and the new tires are going to be out in January. They lost alot of customers becasue of this.
I’ve spent way too much time trying to figure out which AT tires to get and I think I’ve decided on the XLTs in 285/75/R18 for my 23 Tundra. Sounds like everyone has good things to say, and they’re a little bit lighter than comparable ones. Thanks for the videos and sharing your knowledge. 👍
Hey man I’m between the AT3 4S and the XLT. I don’t need the load range tire but I love the raised white letters. How have your XLTs been if you ended up buying them?
@@mattm5786 I like them! I went with 275 70 R18. The white lettering n my white tundra looks really good. They’re not loud tires, either. I’m happy with my purchase.
@@carrow2250 that’s awesome if you live a snowy area how are they in that kindve in environment I live in southern Ontario and we usually don’t get it too bad. But I will be running them through all the seasons.
@@mattm5786 I live in the PNW so its mostly rain here. Haven’t tested them in the snow.
I have a 2006 Toyota Tacoma and I have the at3 XLT’s on my truck with a 2 inch lift with size 285/75/16 and it makes my truck look so nice and beautiful even though they are bigger tires I run my tire pressure at 40 psi and I ride a lot of highway and minor off-road they are quiet and very comfortable when I do go off the road it makes me feel confident. Love the at3’s only tires I’ll ever buy for my trucks.
I have the Cooper AT3 LT275 70r 18's on my Tundra. They have good dry, wet, and snow traction. 15k miles and the treadwear looks great. Happy with these tires.
I have a 07 tundra double cab do you think those would fit on my truck?
@@stevencomstock3332 I believe this is the biggest tire you can run with stock suspension. Good all around truck tire so far.
Duck Cluck Goose thank you for the response I hope it will fit haha!
I have an 08 Tundra. Currently running KO2’s in 305 size with level kit. I really have no complaints with them other than loss of fuel mileage and road noise for the last 25k. I am almost to 100 Thousand Kilometres on them. Am leaning toward these Coopers as replacement. Did they effect your mpg’s at all and how are they in the snow? I’m in Canada and run snow very often!
Awesome, Thanks for the feedback. How are they doing now?
Great video. Thanks bub!
Glad you liked it!
Really great tire. Great traction all year around. Very quiet for an All Terrain tire. I've put 45000 miles on a set of XLT's on an 04 2500hd. Still have a solid 30% tread life left.
Very nice!
Very helpful video. I'm looking for an American made tire that performs well on my F-150 4x4. Leaning toward a 10 ply E rating for towing stability and higher tire pressure when needed, Most of my time will be on the highway but occasional off road use. I'm leaning toward the Cooper AT 3 LT. Firestone and Bridgestone also offer nice tires. Not too aggressive but a bit of a rugged look. Not too noisy either. thank you!
You could also look at the Continental Terrain Contact AT. Skip the E rated tires. They will ruin your ride and they are way overkill.
Finally, bravo!
Good vid. I'm all in on Cooper suv/truck tires. STT Pro on the Trooper (third set) and AT3 LT 10 ply on the 4runner, which replaced the Yokohamas . Never had a flat on any Cooper tire, despite the rocky off road trails we have in western Montana.
Thanks for the feedback!
Thank you great review
Thanks for watching!
I currently run a 35" Nitto Ridge Grappler and they suck in the rain. These will definately be my next set
Good choice.
This video kicks ass! Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Install my XLT on Monday. My Armada needs some new shoes, hopefully they're as good as people say.
You will be happy. Its a good tire.
Update please!
501 N 503 any update?
Do you plan to do a video or can you comment on the new Cooper Discoverer Road and Trail A/T Tire? I have the AT3 XLT's and have been great tires going on almost 80k miles on them . I drive a half ton truck and do pull a big travel trailer in the summer months, but considering trying the updated new Road and Trail A/T tire by Cooper, have loved my XLT's but my biggest thing i would change about them is the stiffness of the ride. Thanks
Thanks, gone buy new set of this
Nice!
do you think the Discoverer AT3 4S would be a good tire for my 2011 Ranger extended cab? tire size is P225/70R15 and is available in this brand thx
good info thank you for sharing. I run AT3 XLT on my Chevy 2500HD 6.6 on stock 18's they are great. On my Tundra-Toyo M/T 70k and now on R/T 33x12.50x20. Honestly the Coopers seem better. Toyo is more aggressive looking but the Coopers simply work. They are half to cost as well. I have been in snow, mud, rain etc. No noticeable noise.
I will be putting a set of the AT3 XLT's on my '99 Tacoma SR5 next week. Definitely a bit of overkill, as I use the truck mostly on roads, with some occasional trailer hauling in the summer, and part-time, too (it's my 2nd vehicle). But the LT is not available in 31/10.5R15 - a size that limits many tire options. I could buy 265/75R15, but those are usually STD range. I really appreciate this comparison review ... thanks!
Let me know how they do. They seem to be a great tire.
you can never go wrong with an LT on anything larger than a car.
Great video
Thanks!
For someone in a Ford F150 in Montana who spends maybe 30% off road and mostly on gravel roads do you feel it's worth going with an 8 or 10ply tire? I've been on the Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 3's and have no flats ever. No leaks or issues whatsoever. I'm considering the Discoverer XLT but wondering if I really need to go 10ply. Any thoughts are helpful.
Your reviews are great, btw!
Out of those three tires, which one would you recommend for a 2018 Toyota Tundra Crew Max 4wd that tows a 31ft travel trailer that weighs about 7400lbs? I live in Pennsylvania too so the snow is going to be a factor also.
Why it the LT not in the title of the video? Is the AT3 XL the one you are referring to as the LT?
I loved my ko2s in Arizona, but I'm soon moving to SC. I'm going to need more rain/ice capability, possibly?
I don't want to risk punctures while roading, and the ko2s did great in that aspect. I absolutely love Michelins on my car and motorcycle, so I'm curious if they make something i would like as well.
Any suggestions?
Hey Matt,
Love your channel. Keep up the great work. I think I have narrowed down my search to two tires. The Cooper Discover AT3 LT and the Falken Wildpeak AT3W.
I am here in the northeast. GMC 2500 tow trailer(s) once in a while. Thank you for your time.
Good choice! Try the Cooper!
@@CampusautoCo Thank you for your reply. I went with the Falken's, waited over a year to get some good all terrains and then 2 months later gave the truck to one of the employees. Thank is OK, I got a new GMC Denali diesel 2500 HD with Goodyear Wrangler AT's. I am a happy camper. Keep up the great work.
I have the Discovery AT3 LT in Lt 265-75/16 on my Silverado. They have been good tires so far, only had them for about five months. As far as noise is concerned, they do sing a bit, this is due to the tread being of a bit of an open design, I don't mind the singing, it's a good tune.
Question I have a 2010 Silverado LS. 17 inch rim with fender flares. My friend and I were using the tire calculator and found the two following options: 305/65 on a 17 and 285/70 on a 17 rim. would that work since that truck is rated at 265/70 on 17inch rim? Right now im using 245/70 on 17 inch. but the fender flares make them look incredibly small
I’m debating between these tires and Nitto ridge grapplers. I have a 2018 ram 1500 eco diesel (lifting it 6” and putting 35x12.5x20s on) wanted to you what you do in my shoes? These XLTs or Nittos? Or any other recommendations you have
Great video!! 👍👍
And we all know everyone is picturing their truck with the At3 Xlt going thru some mud and driving to work on the highway. Even the small truck guys.😎 " I think I can get them At3 XLts on Chevy Colorado"
Right on!
Did you get them and if so how do they ride
I'm looking for something for my new F250. I do a lot of highway driving and like a quiet ride but I also need something I can push snow with in the winter here in Michigan. Any suggestions?
Cooper says the three peak snowflake symbol is only available on certain sizes of the Discoverer AT3 LT. Any idea which ones?
Would you say the cooper at3 xlt is quieter on the road than the bf Goodrich ko2? I'm looking for a tire for my 2010 fj cruiser. The ko2 are great and not that loud on the road but I'm thinking of trying the cooper's. I know the ko2 is probably a better tire but I like how the at3 xlt has an aggressive look and could possibly be quieter on the road?
I would like to see a review on the new Cooper ATP 2’s
Can you review the mastercraft courser trail my local dealer carries them and there arent any review videos on them thanks
When you have time, review the new Cooper Road & Trail tires please 👍🏻
Any reviews set for the newer Cooper Discover road & trail AT
Which tire is more comfortable riding, XL or C rated? Can you recommend me the softest riding all terrain tire 276/55R20? Thanks a lot!
Love the LT 6 ply .. 2000 4 Runner ..
I know Im late to the thread but between the Ko2 and the AT3 xlt which would yield better mpg?
Do all of these tires come with white lettering on one side and black on the other? I want black but don’t want the inside of my tire showing white letters
How are the at3 xlt tires for towing a travel trailer/fifth wheel for a 3/4 ton Ram?
I have a toyota tacoma but haul stuff very often. Is the LT OK for better durability? The 4s seems like the more popular tire.
Please review the cooper road + trail A/T
I am considering the Cooper Discoverer A/T All-Season 265/70R16 112T as for Ram 1500 , Good choice ?
Is that XLT the best all terrain for towing you think? Looks pretty highway friendly.
Great tires great review thanks , note 4 folks are not tire gooroo s Goodyear bought cooper recently
You are correct
Look like the old Remington Wide Brute. Best tires I remember!
Old School!
Thank you for the nice explanation on three tires. Well done. I have a Ram 2500 and can't decide if I should go with the LT or XLT series. Noise isn't a huge factor or gas mileage for that matter, do you think so?
It really depends on how you want the tire to look. I think everything else is the same.
Xlts !
Thank you for this video! it helped clear many things.
One question please, Which one would fit best on a Toyota LC 200?
The 4S will work if its the stock size. Otherwise to the LT or the XLT.
I love the xlt I have 33" they are smooth quite and grippy as all hell
Cool
I am torn between the 4s, XLT and Grabber ATX. I had bad wet traction with KO2 so I hesitate to go that route. After 30k miles on them they were slippery. Mostly highway driving. Leveled Tundra.
@@dannakoneczny3930 I think the xlt is going to sirve you well its quite it's great in rain I don't think you can go wrong with them
Dan Nakoneczny I also have a levelled Tundra 08 and have been running KO2’s for last 100k. I have no complaints other than loss of mpg’s and road noise from them. I don’t go off road all that much anymore but still like a fairly capable tire when I do. Am leaning toward these Coopers XLT’s but trying to get as much feedback as possible. I need a tire that wears well, and gets snow/wet traction more than anything.
Matt, great job on the reviews. Can you recommend a tire for my‘16 Cherokee Trailhawk? I like the aggressive look of an A/T tire but I don’t go off road much. I live in the northeast so we do get the occasional snow storm. My concern is the road noise of an A/T tire. Thanks in advance
I would do a Continental Terrain Contact AT or a Firestone Destination AT2
Looking to replace my oe Wrangler Duratracs on my Silverado. They're great tires, but much too noisy for my purposes. I believe the Coopers would be a good choice, but are they quiet on the highway?
Cool review! Have done a review for the Discoverer S/T Maxx?
Not yet! I think it might get replaced.
Hv 18 ram 2500 mostly driving/towing 10k Lbs, what you recommend.
Best tire I’ve ever owned out about 75k on them and still had plenty of traction left
which ones did you have?
hi there your channel is great however i sure would like to see a review of the nokian outpost at its just that im a little tired of the ko3s and the mt mt tires i need some new info tkanksamillion
2019 ford f150 lariat 4x4
Stock OEM tires are Goodyear wranglers -P275/55R20
Towing a 6500# (with 600# hitch weight) travel trailer once a month through the summer.
Do I need E rated tires or would P or XL work?
GVWR of truck is 7000#
Rear axle is 3800#
Payload is 1762#
I do not off road but so like a bit more aggressive looking tire - hoping the 4s will fit that bill.
Which one is suitable for Wrangler JK 2013 mainly for 70% onroad
Hello - I'm also leaning to the cooper discoverer at3 4s - I have a 2011 Ford F150 4x4 Crew and live in Northeast Ohio - we get Lake effect snow at times - Go off road 5 %-maybe 10% - tow a little - mostly light loads (ATVs) - Have Michelin Defenders LTX and shoulder gone with 55K. Also considering Hankook AT2, Continental Terraincontact AT or HT, Firestone LE3 and General HTS60 - I saw you HT review - have not seen a AT review with above mentioned. Interested in your suggestion - I'm an easy going driver. Thank you Todd
Dot the Continental Terrain Contact AT. I do have two videos with that tire in it.
I like the XLT side wall in 18s for my Ford F150
Good choice
Thanks for the info, is the AT3 4S a LT tire? Also does it come in Size 275/70 R18? I have a 2021 Ram Rebel with Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac Tire but i find them a little bit noisy on the road and they are heavy tires. I'm looking for something with less noise and easier to roll for better mpg. Preferably winter rated. What do you recommend? Thank you
Try the Toyo Open Country AT3
What I noticed right away after getting these tires oh, it was like as if the suspension was changed as well do I state-of-the-art off-road suspension, it handled potholes very well oh, they still do 5 years later. Hardly any mileage on them though oh, very good in the snow haven't gone off-roading with them have a quad for that what's mud tires. But they're very good oh, and they're installed on a Toyota RAV4 V6 with the trailering package. Great tires!
Awesome. Thanks for the real world feedback!
Oh?
@@Polemicist_ 😂😂😂😂😂
I have the at3 4s on my 4runner 4x4, its been great so far in Colorado mountains
Awesome!
Looking for the XLT for Ty 24 Tundra TRD Pro.
Quick question for you... I just bought a 2018 4Runner and frequently tow a trailer with 3 ATVs. Approximately 3,500 lb (gross weight). I don't want to over do it with the tire. Would recommend the 4S or LT? I had the XLTs on my old Jeep and they were great, but at times, a rough drive on the road. I appreciate your help.
You will be fine with the 4S. The LT would be 8 or 10 ply and make it ride rough.
@@CampusautoCo Thanks!
Getting my xlts put on my 2011 silverado tomorrow went with a 285 65 18 since I'm leveled I think I'll do pretty good. I was torn between those and the toyo rt.
This will be better than the RT
@@CampusautoCo awesome, I'm already getting compliments on how they look.