Cooper Discoverer AT3 vs BF Goodrich KO2 All-Terrain T/A
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Cooper AT3 XLT vs. BF Goodrich KO2
Join us as we deep dive into a comprehensive comparison between the Cooper AT3 XLT and the BF Goodrich KO2. From their unique design elements to on-road and off-road performance, we uncover every detail to determine which tire emerges as the top contender.
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Deciphering the design elements: Cooper AT3's 5 columns of blocks versus BFG KO2's interlocking web design.
On-road performance: Which tire offers a smoother, quieter ride and better wet conditions grip?
Off-road challenge: Durability, rocky terrain, mud, and snow - find out which tire conquers them all.
Delve into the intricacies of their internal construction and discover how it impacts performance.
With detailed visuals and expert insights, we aim to provide a clear perspective to help you make an informed choice. Let's find out which tire truly stands out!
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I swapped from KO2 to AT3 XLT a few years back. I really noticed the improvement in wet weather grip and noise on the road. The big surprise was off road - nothing in it. Same feel and result on the moderate rock steps and crawls in the state forests and national parks around Sydney. The Coopers felt marginally better in sand, and the BFGs marginally better in mud.
My new truck comes with KO2s from the factory and seriously considering selling them and buying a set of AT3s
Based on the usage, swapping to Cooper is a good move. Thanks for sharing.
Australian eh? Did you get your govt mandated clot shot or did they send you to Howard’s rock?
Same with my jimny :D
Coopers seem to fall apart a lot sooner from what I've heard, at least on gravel roads.
I requested this in a comment on another video you did a little while back. Thank you so much for making this video!
You are welcome mate.
I’ve had the BFG I currently have the AT3 LT ... and by far the Cooper is the better tire all around .. drop the air to 25 psi the coopers have plenty of bite off road especially in the sand and loose dirt
the at3's dont last in rough conditions. i had 2 blowouts in 2 different tires and a flat in a 3rd in under 10k miles. when i was on the pipelines hotshotting equipment i tried all the major brands. the at3 lastest the shortest amount of time and gave me the most issues. theyre fine for farting around in some gravel but if youre working them hard off road the blow. never had one issue from the ko2. the ko2s ended up being the only all terrain tire i tried that i could wear all the way down to the designated depth before replacing without a blowout or a flat. driving around town yeah the at3 are maybe a little quieter but..they are not tough tires.
Thanks for sharing
Yeah I agree my set of coopers are excellent.
Did you drive them in the snow? I’m coming up to my first winter with them and I’ve heard mixed reviews
I’ve had BFG KO2 & AT3’s on a Toyota Hilux & VW Amarok.
In my opinion and being from Ireland where we get a lot of rain I found the BFG dangerous on wet roads, excellent off road. But for an all terrain tyre I think the AT3 is much better and can perform equally as good off-road when tyre pressure is lowered. AT3 is amazing at throwing water off to side.
I prefer the Coopers because the silica rubber creates a lot of traction and BFGs seem hard and seem to slide in wet conditions when you need brakes. Plus the coopers are a lot cheaper. I’ve gotten about 70,000 miles out of my coopers.
True dat.
I have Cooper AT3’s on both my Broncos and love them. New to off-roading but they’re very quiet and great on and off road 👍🏽👍🏽
Yea these tires are awesome, if you are a beginner off-roader.
@@comparethetire for just sand & dunes the cooper will perform better though.
I’ve had both on my Nissan Frontier and prefer the Coopers. The BF Goodrich were great when new but as they aged and wore down, we’re absolutely horrible in all driving conditions. Also became extremely noisy. 45,000miles on my Coopers at the moment and they are still quiet and perform pretty close to day 1.
@rivetc78 Thank you for sharing your experience! Sounds like the Coopers are offering consistent performance for you even with considerable mileage, which is excellent to hear.
I run the Cooper AT3 on my daily driver excellent on the hiway and good offroad with 60,000 tread wear. A better comparison would be with the Cooper STMax a more aggressive tread and three ply sidewall but less 50,000 tread wear. I have run both tires and for the money I prefer the long wearing AT3.
Yes, we are going to be putting that tire here soon as well. Thanks for sharing.
I run 34s cooper xlt on my f150 amazing tire on and off road highly recommend
I’d never buy any other all terrain tire Other than a copper AT3
They yield the highway tread life and most comfortable and quiet ride over the competition
I have the XLT on my Ford F250 diesel. I have heard from a number of reviewers that the KO2s get ground to dust on 3/4 and 1 ton trucks, especially diesels. At $400 a piece, that's too expensive to bear. I've also used several sets of BFG AT on Chevy Tahoes and Toyota 4Runners. On dirt and rocky trials, the KO2s are great. On snow they are food. On wet and torrential rains, they suck. The design can't evacuate the water out from the sides or longitudinally so it hydroplanes quickly.
The XLTs are good in snow, good in dirt and rocky trials and good in rain, providing good water evacuation. They ride as quietly as Michelin AT2 and as rumblefree. No tracking or tramlining. Good rode comfort. And at 40,000 mes I've gotten almost 6,000 miles per each 1/32 inch and still have about 9/32 left. That's about 36,000 more miles if I push it thst far. If I live in the southwest, I coukd reasonably try it. But being in South Central Idaho where we get snow, I would change before then.
@@ms.annthrope415 Thanks for sharing.
I have the BFG KO2’s in Australia and mainly do beach driving in a Toyota Prado. I find the more aggressive side lugs really help when you start digging into soft sand, the side walls add traction. However KO2’s are horrendous in wet weather, very noisy, and suck fuel, which is why I have another set of wheels I swap out for normal on road driving.
Yes, for on road, Cooper AT3 is the closet you can get staying in A/T category. You might want to go for 4S as well instead of LT or XLT, as they have more size options and are slightly less aggressive as well.
Hi Mate! This is a raging debate in the 4Runner forum about KO2 slipping in the rain. Some say they personally experienced KO2 slipping in the rain and hate them for this reason but at the same time there are quite a few people like me who have never had any problems with them in the rain and I’ve been running them on my vehicles for the last 20 years. It’s a real head scratcher why some hate them and other love them. As for noise I find them no worse than similar tires. As for sucking fuel, yeah I agree, not the most fuel efficient tire. I do about 85% driving on road and 15% off road. It’s a great compromise tire. Drives great on highways and at the same time it can handle the vast majority of road conditions. By the way I love Australia and the people! I’ll be there next week enjoying a few pints of Furphy at the local pub! Cheers!
@@awcowa2259 it’s all relative. I had a Landrover Discovery that came standard with KO2’s. For about three years I thought the handling was pretty shit in the wet until the tyres wore out and I replaced them with Pirelli Scorpions. KO2’s are great off-road, but compared to the set of highway tyres I have on for daily use they are very poor on road. However I would not want to venture very far off the beaten track with those highway tyres.
Everything is a compromise. If you can afford two sets of tyres and the effort to swap them you can have the best of both worlds. I have got it down to about 20 minutes in my garage to swap the tyres out.
I like both tires and have had both on my Tundra. But overall I went fully with the Coopers considering my style of towing and on/off road percentage. Lighter in overall weight saves on initial enertia and they look great. I take issue with the damage susceptibility claim though. There is another video on here testing the AT3/XLTs and they championed some brutal torture! So 👍 for Coopers!
@endeavorrv
It's always about finding the right fit for your specific needs. Thanks for sharing your insights.
I own the AT3 XLT i have 0 regrets i am mostly on payment if i was mostly off road i would have done the BF's.
The coppers on road drive nice in all conditions
Yes Cooper AT3 is very on road oriented.
yeah the at3 doesnt last off road or if you haul anything off road..i had blowouts and flats from 3 of them in less than 10k miles. never had an issue with the bfg.
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You had the XLT'S?
@@VINNY5674 I had the LT
I had AT3 Coopers and they were a great tyre with huge mileage capacity for wear. On my current vehicle I fitted Mickey Thompson Degan 38's which are wearing well but are noisy as hell on the road. Then nextt set will be Cooper AT3's for sure.
Yea if you are going from Cooper At3 to Deegan, you'd definitely feel the noise, as it's a mud tire
@@comparethetire When I was making the enquiry, the guy at the tyre shop told me he had heard nothing about the Deegan ever being noisy on the road .... I had already told him that I wanted a quiet tyre. Guess whose door I will never enter again? :)
@@lesteraizlewood8457 I you need the quietest A/T tire, go with Continental TerrainContact A/T, our tests show, you can't beat this tire when it comes to noise, we'd be putting its video soon.
Though make sure you still check out our rest of the vids in order to better decide what you need.
@@comparethetire Thanks for the info. I am about to get rid of my current vehicle as I am awaiting the arrival of a new one. I won't need any tyres for quite a while but shall check into the Continentals. I used to use them as wet weather tyres when I used to road race motorcycles and they never ever slipped out on me ... and that is a long time ago, so I imagine they are still really good quality.
@@lesteraizlewood8457 Yea, they are pretty good.
After reading some of the reviews that seemed questionable based on my experience I decided to add my experience with these tires. Here in western PA I drive mostly on road and my off road is farm fields, empty, loaded and towing. Tires are 10 ply.
I liked the directional grooves on the AT3 for lightly covered roads at interstate speeds. However the KO2 with their larger openings around the lugs were almost equal in performance. At slower speeds or in water, snow or slush at slow or higher speeds the KO2’s performed much better. The KO2’s also self cleaned at a much slower speed providing better grip.
The AT3 are a quieter highway tire but the KO2’s are not that much louder. Both towed well with KO2’s better in adverse conditions. With truck loaded I liked the KO2’s better. AT3’s had a better mileage life before I felt they needed replaced by about 10,000 miles. For my use the KO2’s were a better tire.
@jerryh4983 It's really valuable to hear such detailed observations comparing Cooper AT3 and BF Goodrich KO2! Your experiences highlight the importance of matching the tire with specific usage conditions. It sounds like, for your needs, the KO2's extra grip and performance in adverse conditions outweighed the AT3's additional mileage lifespan.
This is why when it rains you see so many HD trucks in the ditch with the KO2.
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Man, I have the KO2 on my F150 they scared the crap out of me on snow and ice, I'm getting the Cooper ATP2 put on tomorrow, we'll see !
I understand the K02 is made in Thailand, whereas the Cooper tire is made in USA. I had the Cooper tire on my F350 and just finished up over 70,000 miles on that tire. it is quiet and provides excellent traction under a wide range of conditions. However, there’s not enough tread left for this winter. I will be getting another set of Cooper tires within the month.
Yes tread life is a small issue with this tire, especially when you compare it with KO2.
KO2 is a very old tire model. Coopers are far superior now, in both protector shape and compound.
@MAXlMUS It's great to hear different perspectives! Technology does keep evolving and newer models may indeed offer better performance in some areas.
BF goodrich keep top ratings... today still is unbeaten in off road...
Cooper at3 10plys are the best all terrain tire ever made. Bfgoodrich could have problems with cuping, but still a great tire.
Certainly! The Cooper AT3 10-ply tires are highly regarded as excellent all-terrain tires. While BF Goodrich tires may have had some cupping issues, they are still considered a great choice overall. It's important to find the tire that suits your specific needs and preferences. As a tire expert, I value your firsthand experiences and insights.
Had the BFGs on 2 trucks. Unbelievable in the snow. However I’m old now and cheap so they’re to pricey.
Never had those Coopers did have studded winter ones for the car. They are also great.
It has nothing to do with being cheap, one should always consider a value to money product.
I listen to these because I have a Trail Boss pickup and drive 85% road, some farm work and a little off roading. I pull a trailer and camper and the wet weather feature is important in traffic doing so. Red clay Oklahoma mud can be an issue too.
I’m running Goodyear Territory’s and they seem good all around though they can get a little noisy before rotation.
I’ll be getting a new set in the summer so this stuff helps me decide.
Alright good to hear.
Amazing how much positive reviews I see hre on the Coopers.
I have a Ford Raptor 2013, steel and V8. It came with KO1 and I had to change them with KO2's at less than 28,000 miles as they did no pass inspection. BIG SHOCK! I do not drive hard nor do off-roading (do not live in the desert, or mountains), mainly paved asphalt and not much snow at all. Again...the truck is not abused, I do not brake hard, nor do BS stuff like you may see on UA-cam. And is not the only vehicle I own, so it's not a daily vehicle. Well maintained and serviced.
Very dissapointed of the KO2's. I will never buy KO2s again...!
Sorry to hear about your disappointing experience with the KO2s. Given your driving conditions and usage, you might find better wear and performance with a different model or brand. Coopers do tend to get positive reviews for durability and comfort on asphalt. It might be worth considering them or another highly rated highway-terrain tire for your next set.
i was a hotshot driver in the oilfield for a while and worked pipelines 50 percent on road and 50 off road pipeplines and very rough lease roads. i tried EVERY single all terrain tire from every major brand. the AT3 was the WORST. i had issues with blowouts at 5k and 8k miles on front and back tires. never had a blowout from the bfg or a flat. the at3 is ok for a daily driver if you dont abuse them but if you work your tires off/on road they will blow very quickly.
Thanks for sharing.
How much was the weight of your car?
You didn’t mention ice traction, If you’re going to have a problem in winter it’s not snow but ice that will cause long braking distance or sliding out on a corner and cause a wreck?
Out of both, the Cooper AT3 is better on ice.
When will see the test for the Nokian Tyres "Outpost AT" ??? (Both summer, and especially, winter!!)
Might take a while. But sure, I've added this is the list.
@@comparethetire Thank you!
Good stuff. How do you think the Cooper Discoverer AT3 would compare to the Falken Wildpeak AT3W or the BR Goodrich Trail Terrain? I drive a Jeep Liberty with P235/70 R16 tires, and do more road than offroad driving, and snow and wet driving on roads is especially important since live in mountain sky country, which can be hot and dry in the summer though.
The Cooper Discoverer AT3 tends to perform well for drivers who spend most of their time on-road but still require dependable performance in adverse weather conditions like snow and rain. Given your location in the mountains and the climate conditions you've described, the AT3 could be a suitable choice. It's designed to offer a balance between off-road capability and refined on-road manners. However, the BF Goodrich KO2 also has a strong reputation for its snow and wet road handling. I would suggest considering the terrain you encounter most frequently and how each tire's characteristics align with those conditions.
Most Falken tires are made in Japan the Coopers are made in USA. Just thinking about.
Sadly, Cooper discontinued the raised solid white letters on the AT3 XLT tire. I can’t find any in stock.
Just picked up a set yesterday
No its still available
depends on what size you get. some sizes you can still get with raised white lettering.
I've had ATs for years and years...some were used (back in early 90s) and some new. Like them a lot. Got AT3 XLTs on my 1970 Ford Bronco a couple years ago on advice by tire dealership when I requested ATs. They seem more quiet, have enough of an aggressive tread, and look great that I'm comfortable it was a great choice. Not off-road or snow much, so not concerned (although I'm sure four-wheel drive and factory posi front and back will have more impact). Price looks about the same today for each tire, although maybe there was some discount for Coopers when I bought them. I'm sure you can't go wrong with either tire, but the AT3s might be more quiet on the road if that's the majority of your driving.
Thanks for sharing mate, and I agree with you 100 here.
Hello! How does the Cooper Discoverer compare to Hokian Outpost AT?
Nokian is better on dry roads, and it also does slightly better off-road (mild terrains). Cooper is quieter, and offers nicer wet and winter grip. Though both are 3pmsfr. Apologies for the delayed response.
@@comparethetireThanks for the reply! how about for winter driving? Nokian is better than Cooper?
Which All Terrain Tires would you recommend for a 1985 Jeep CJ7. It’s a soft top base model that is around the stock weight. Let me know thanks!
Cooper AT3 XLT. You can also check out the Discoverer Road + Trail.
@@comparethetireAppreciate the response, I’ll check them out!
I love the idea of the at3 but I tow heavy stuff off road and that one ply has me alittle worried. What do you guys think ?
Right now I have the stt pro , hasn’t gotten stuck in the mud at all with these bad boys
STT Pro being a mud terrain tire provides much better off road traction over A/T tires.
@@comparethetire yes it does and the terrain I’m on is unforgiving. People always get stuck but my stt pro and Silverado get out with ease
I’ve seen too many blown KO2’s that caused fender damage or accidents. I’ll never buy them. I have used different models from Cooper on trucks and cars. The Discoverer S/T is a beast in the rain, snow and sand. I’ve had a few sets of the AT3 XLT’s and love the ride quality and how quiet they are. Excellent on road and almost any off-road conditions.
Yes, they sure provide a great on road performance combined with the needed durability for minor off-roading
I wore out a set of bfg on my jeep only lasted 24k.... really bummed. Get stuck on wet grass too.... the cooper's I have had before... they get almost same traction but last twice as long.
Coopers lasts a long time no doubt.
I live in WNC where we can get big snow as 12 to 14" if the moister is from the Gulf. That may not seem like like much to the northern folks. On mountain roads it stays for days, we don't have snow removal. I am on my 3rd set of BFGs K02. They are quiet, I average 58K, and they are beasts in heavy snow. Plus they look good to boot.
Last is the cost I'm not sure about the Cooper price, but the BFGs on my last set Feb 2022, were $325.00 each.
Yes, with BFG KO2's interlocking design, it really does great on snow. A better tire in snow is Baja Boss AT (just FYI).
I just paid $355 each for a new set of 265/70/20's for my Sierra HD. Had no choice, nothing else available before our Christmas blizzard in Buffalo. Second set, got 60K from last set, though pricey, zero regrets!
Dang what a bargain! Mine ran me about $385 a tire in California in 2021
@@awcowa2259 My mistake $325.00
@@comparethetire I put a set of 32" MT Baja Boss AT's on my lifted 96 Jeep Cherokee and those things are amazing! They grip everything and are surprisingly quiet and handle well on the pavement. They also look fantastic! I've only put a few thousand on them so not sure about the life yet but I very well might get a set to put on my truck when the tires need replaced.
which is one is better on soft sand or deserts
Cooper AT3 XLT. Though there are a lot of factors to consider here. We are now including in the sand section in our newer videos.
I’m at 67k miles on my copper at3 4s and feel like I could squeeze another 5-10k out on my 2015 f150. Having new wheels and at3 xlt installed in a couple of days. Hoping to get as much life out of xlt as 4s.
@jason91205, your experience with the Cooper AT3s is quite impressive. Reaching 67k miles and still going strong is a testament to their durability. I hope the AT3 XLTs serve you as well as the 4S have.
I used both and my actual coopers are super slippery and bouncy on road, only great on sand for sure, ram sport 4x4 2016 35s x 12.5, in my opinion not buying them again, still not sure to buy ko2 again either, gonna try another brand
Falken Wildpeak at3w is one of the best aggressive tires for on road wet performance, so you may want to check that out. We uploaded it's several videos as well.
You can’t drive 😂
This is one of the best tire comparison video I have seen. Great job! However, please get rid of the background music. Very annoying and makes it harder to hear what the guy is saying.
Sure thing.
@@comparethetire Much appreciated!
What's the price difference? assuming the KO2 are almost double in price?
Slightly below then that, but yea, KO2s are expensive.
@@comparethetire thanks
I have both. BFG on a jeep wrangler and Coops on a ram 2500. You failed to mention where they are made. Always a consideration to me.
@tracker1673 Thank you for your feedback! The manufacturing location is indeed a point we overlooked. We'll keep this in mind for future comparisons.
You should make a video about best snow and dirt/rock tires. I am looking for some and I am thinking of getting KO2’S but I am not sure they are good for snow and ice.
If you want an aggressive tire combined with snow performance, I'd say you check out Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT. (Compared it with KO2 as well, see if you can find the video).
@@comparethetire alright I will go look at it right now. Thanks for the feed back.
I like bfg's but unfortunately wear out faster. Cooper Discoverer is a great tire. Buy what you like.
Absolutely! Both BFGs and Coopers have their pros and cons, and it really comes down to personal preference. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Oddly enough i have Ko2s on my truck and the coopers on my van ...the bfgs are definitely the better tires off road
However my 4x4 van is not going to be getting crazy off road and spends most of its time on things like hiways and forest service roads and the coopers are just fine for that and a hell of a lot cheaper
Yes, that's a fine arrangement you got there.
I've run both these tires in Canadian conditions and I would use pick the ko2s over the cooper tires for all conditions but price made me choose the cooper at3 4s.
Alright, do let me know your experience with it, after you get to know them.
Fellow Canadian . im having a hard time choosing the cooper is a load e and the bfg is a load d. geting new tires1500 gmc to pull my toy hauler . Little concerned with ride quality with the load e tire
Love the Tkos. In the rare chance Iv tried something else im always disappointed. The fact that Michelin owns bfg tells me if an improvement is to be made they would be onit.
Yea. Thanks for sharing.
Sounds like if you're MOSTLY on street use-- the AT3 is BETTER--but if you plan on being offroad or in mud/snow more--- the KO2 is better.... ?? Right??? That's how it sounds to me anyway... I think I'd go with the K02-- I'm out in the country and we get WET snow here in winter-- and sometimes off in mud- although not that much... but AT3 would be great for mostly street or RAIN driving. I could do well with the AT3-- because I won't be offroad all THAT much.. especially since I'm getting older and will only be doing my winter driving to town and back mostly!
That's the gist of it
The Cooper tires are also quieter. I’ve had two sets driven over 150,000 miles on these tires and they are great. As an added bonus, they’re made in US.
@@darrelloconnell8772 Good to know-- thanks..
I’m used to running ko2’s all year round on my ram in eastern Canada. I just had the Cooper At3 4s installed and they are terrible. My stock goodyear wra were better than these. Worst tire in winter I’ve ever owned. Good in dry and wet but not any use at all in winter. In any amount of snow, can’t stop and can’t steer. My truck just slides around out of control. Stick with KO2 if ya drive a truck.
I am in Alberta and years back had the prior series of BFG all terrain and they did better then the AT3 coopers I bought as the replacement tire. The Cooper AT3 is a more quiet tire then that older BFG AT but on ice the Coopers are total shit from my experience ( I've run winter tires for years so fortunately haven't had to use the coopers on ice very much, I would have been in so many accidents or dead by now had I relied on the coopers to keep me on the road !. Not sure how much better this "XLT" version is as they could be a little different then the coopers I have, mine react just like a true mud tire on ice, like skates.
Sorry to hear about your negative experience with the Cooper AT3 4S tires in winter. It's important to find tires that perform well in the specific conditions you encounter. Based on your feedback, it seems like the KO2 tires have worked better for you in winter driving.
Really wanna see a Toyo Open Country AT3 vs Cooper Discover XLT pretty please
You can check it on the website.
The KO2 is such a good looking tire. But I think the Cooper is the better buy. I haven't tried the AT3s, but I have a set of Cooper ST/Maxx on my 2018 Titan. They've been excellent, and I think they look as good or better than the KO2s.
@J.Wick.: Glad to hear your Coopers are doing well on your Titan. It's always great to have firsthand comparisons!
I have almost 90k miles on a set of Falkan Wildpeak at3w. Still have plenty of tread left. No lie!!!
@Vince Ruland That's impressive longevity on the Falken Wildpeak AT3W! It's great to see that they've held up so well for you.
My Ko2s were TERRIBLE! They lasted about 8k and couldn’t get up my driveway in the winter. I switched to the at3 two years ago and have 30k miles on them and go right up my driveway in the winter. Night and day difference!
Sorry to hear about your experience with the Ko2s, but it's great to know that the AT3s have been a game-changer for you, especially in winter conditions. Real-world feedback like yours is invaluable. Thanks for sharing, and drive safe!
I have had good service with the Coopers but it did not give enough kilometers. Only 60ooo km.
You must be running a heavier vehicle on them.
Neither, get the Michelin Ltx 2.
I've had all three - bfg ko2, copper at3, Michelin ltx2. The Michelin were the only ones that lasted to 50k miles, had no uneven wear, and even when low on tread could easily get through colorado snow, mud, ice, rain. Plus my mpg had no loss, no steering shake, and no loud noises unlike k02 , at3.
Its video is coming up next.
I'm not sure where you're getting your "real world" data from but a friend with KO2 on slippery wet rocks here in the North East did terrible on an off road trip into the mountains. Lateral grip and traction was practically non existent on challenging slippery conditions. The Coopers on the other hand were heads and shoulder above the BF tires when it came to side to side traction.
It's interesting to hear your perspective on the General Grabber being an imitation of the BF Goodrich KO2. Both tires have their strengths, and personal preferences can play a big role in these choices. While you hold the BF Goodrich KO2 in high regard, the General Grabber ATX still has its merits, catering to different preferences and needs in the all-terrain tire market.
Both of our jeeps wear the BFG KO2s. That is probably all i will put on them. I used to use Toyo Open Country MTs, but the KO2s work better in our Alaskan winters.
@bobvedder2451 If the BFG KO2s work well in the Alaskan winters, they must be quite reliable! Thanks for sharing your experience.
I think copper discovered rugged trek and k02 are about the same
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Aesthetically I like KO2s for Jeep and AT3 for pickups
Very well said.
I also own the Coopers at3 on a jeep Wrangler. I never had so many flats in my life. Two tires had to be replaced due to already having two repairs.
You must have been running sizes with lower load index
Like your reviews, thanks!
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I had the heavy duty ply version of the Cooper AT3... they only lasted about 20,000 miles til they went bald. I'm on my second year with the BF Goodrich Ko2's and zero wear is visible.
@gittyupalice96 That's really interesting to hear about your experience with the Cooper AT3s, and glad to hear that the BF Goodrich KO2's are holding up well! Durability is such a key factor.
It literally depends on what you use the vehicle for. If you drive the vehicle to work or the grocery store or use the vehicle for every day driving but also want off road capableity the Cooper is way better! If it's a dedicated off road vehicle then the BFGoodrich is better.
Thanks for sharing, yes you're right.
Cooper is way better than bf's. I have 3/4 ton and bf always bubble on sidewalls. Coopers no issues. Bf might be great for light trucks but once you get into big boys go for the coopers.
Thanks for sharing
This is all a cute theory video. I had both on my truck, 2014 F150 FX4. Cooper for the win I guarantee it. Far more superior in every aspects.
Good choice!
I have Cooper AT3 s on my Landcruiser truck. Very good tyre, by im a little bit dissappointed about the kilometers they gave me. They have done 55ooo km an are all most done. They might go to 60 ooo km. It was 90 persent on graveled roads.
If you are looking for longevity, then you should try out the Grabber ATX.
I went from BFG to AT3 and will go back to the BFG. Coopers are way to stiff for me, going back to the C load BGF on my FJ Cruiser. 🤷🏻♂
It's all about finding the right fit for your vehicle and driving conditions. Thanks for sharing your perspective on the BFG vs. AT3. Safe travels on whichever tires you choose!
BFG used mainly for Southern Africa bush trips. Never had a puncture after 346k kms. See no reason to take a chance on anything else
346k is a lot of mileage. Yea the internal 3 ply polyester and spirally wound cap plies are hard to penetrate.
No more BFG KO Anything for me...I gave up on my favorite tire years ago. There is definitely a balancing issue, and their wet traction is middle of the pack.
@Jeff Jassby Sorry to hear about your experience with the BFG KOs. Balancing and wet traction can definitely make or break the driving experience.
Cooper XLT is better than BFG or Nitto. I’ve had all 3 on my ram 2500’s. I work construction so anything from sticky slick mud to wet lawns , wet , dry, or snow cooper😢grips better and lasts far longer
@stevenfoust3782 Appreciate your input on Cooper XLT tires. It sounds like they're doing an outstanding job for your ram 2500s across a variety of challenging work conditions. Your real-world experience is a great testament to their performance and durability. Thanks for sharing!
As a Discount Tire salesman, I'd go with the BFG as the better All-Terrain tire. The softer rubber on the Cooper has it's advantages, but one major disavantage which was not covered here: It is much more susceptable to "cupping" where the tire has many high and low tread areas, and a bumpy awful ride as a result. I see this a lot on the Coopers but almost never on KO2s. The Cooper is in most respects the better on-road tire, but given that these are All-terrain tires, the KO2 fits that bill far better, it is the better all-around tire. Then again, many people buying all terrain and Mud terrain tires will never touch a spec of dirt, in which case I'd buy the Cooper. (I'm looking at you, Jeep people.)😂
Your insight as a Discount Tire salesman is invaluable, Joseph! The cupping issue with softer rubber tires like the Cooper is indeed a crucial point. While Coopers perform exceptionally on-road, the durability and even tread wear of the BFG KO2s make them a more reliable all-terrain option. Your point about many all-terrain and mud-terrain tire buyers not actually going off-road is well-taken - in such cases, the Cooper could be a more suitable choice for on-road comfort.
@@comparethetire Yessir!
Tire tread cupping is an indication of poor or inadequate shocks on the vehicle. Proper rotation and balance can't be stated enough when it comes to keeping the outer edges from wearing and causing noise. You can always tell the direction a tire was rolling by rubbing your hand over the front tires edges, they will be 'higher' on the leading edges. This causes the noise, cross rotate fronts to the rear and rears straight forward to correct over time. Three vehicles in the past with KO2's and no problems but agree on subpar wet performance. Where KO2's excel is off-road on rocky terrain. Considering Coopers next time.
I'm very interested in wet pavement performance...so AT3.
Yes that's a great option.
Cooper AT3 for the win. for all around performance by price. yes!
Yes, you got it right.
K02s are old and long in the tooth. BFG needs to refresh the tires to bring parity with competitors.
You may want to check out BF Goodrich Trail Terrain (it's a little more on road oriented)
KO3 is around the corner 🙂
Silica is vital to snow... BF goodrich is a summer tire... got in mind that...
@DrAdHominem: Interesting note about silica and tire performance in different seasons. Thanks for the insight!
Hands down ko2
Yea sometimes, Ko2 has no match, I get it.
These two tires are both pikers. Goodyear Discoverer AT Kevlars are where you want to be.
Yes you can say that
I'll take the cooper any day for over al l performance
Great to hear! The Cooper tires do seem to offer a well-rounded performance. Enjoy your rides!
No matter what anyone says about KO2'S they are terrible on wet roads. Almost fogot about that fact until I bought my present truck with KO2'S on it. Not safe on a wet road in my opinion!
Totally hear you on the wet road issue with KO2s. They're beasts off-road but can get tricky in the rain. It’s an important consideration for sure. Appreciate you bringing it up!
I just ran about 140000km on AT3xlt.... Still can run more kms...
That's impressive
Comparing the wrong cooper tyre anyway that's a more road tyre U need the stmax for same comparison
Yea you may be right, but we got a lot of requests for this one. Though ST Maxx is on our list.
ko2 not the best tire, but always been the best benchmark for everyone. i will say, they are the best looking tire out there.
@666dynomax: It's interesting to hear that KO2 sets a benchmark even if it's not the best for everyone. Style points count too!
Those coopers are freaking trash. We’ve actually replaced them with 50% tread left because they were so loud. Not even a consideration. And fyi, our tires get rotated every 5-6k with oil changes.
So are you considering KO2 now? Where do you run your tires mostly? I mean on what types of terrains, if you don't mind me asking.
@@comparethetire Mostly pavement for sure, but we go out every day regardless of weather conditions.(New England) Running BFGs on all the trucks now.
@@Holden-McGroin Why not consider Falken Wildpeak AT3w?
@@comparethetire I had a set of the Falken A/Ts on my Xterra years ago when they first came out. The tires had great traction, excellent price, but the wore pretty quick. Also to note, they smelled terrible for the first few months.
I have to disagree with this info. I have owned a lot of BFG all terrains in the past... mostly the original KO's, and I can tell you they are at LEAST 3X better than the coopers. I just mounted a set of the Coopers on my '15 F150, and there is almost NO traction on wet roads. Hell, the 70% worn-out factory original GoodYear HIGHWAY TREADS had by FAR better wet traction. I was towing my camper this past weekend in the rain, and these tires were spinning at every intersection with almost no throttle as if I were on ice. Scary experience... Once, on an entrance ramp at 50+ mph, and less than 1/3 throttle, they cut loose.... I will NOT be buying any more Cooper tires! BFG for the win. I have never had them act like this. Maybe I will go back to the Goodyear HT's. They were very quiet, gotgood fuel economy, and in Dec 2017, got me through 35+ inches of snow in Erie, PA (yeah, I too was surprised by that...) They were 1+ years old at the time, and I thought I would be "sunk" without a good set of AT or winter tires... they proved me wrong, & blasted right through the stuff. The Cooper ATs I have on now are useless.. My wife is scared to drive our truck in the wet... I hope they will be good in deep snow, but it's hard to imagine they will be, based on how terrible they are on wet pavement. At this point, I think I would trade them on a 50% worn-out set of BFG's!
Sorry to hear about your bad experience with Coopers. Actually not all sizes on Cooper AT3 XLT come with 3pmsfr, and I specifically targeted those with that rating.
I have 84,000 miles on my 285/70/17 ko/2's and am ordering a new set today (5th set ive owned, and i am 100% never changing to a different tire)
The ONLY thing better than these is the original BFG all-terrain's i use to buy for my tacoma, that they no longer make!
Ive pulled bolts, nails, screws out of the tread without having to repair them, no leaks.
Ive scuffed the sidewalls on extreme trail rides and never had a gash/roll off/cut that caused concern.
I run these on 2 vehicles: 2000 jeep xj and a 2003 toyota sequoia, both are modified for off-road use.
Wow, 84,000 miles is incredible mileage for the KO2s! Your experience really speaks to their durability and reliability, especially considering the rough conditions you've put them through. It's great to hear such a strong endorsement from a seasoned user.
I’ve ran two sets of ko2 in a row on my 3500 and by 30 k they are bald with several flat spots . Definitely do not recommend them for a HD truck .
What size were you running?
235-80-17 load range e@@comparethetire
If you spend more time off road K02 is to go
But more on road and less offroad copper AT3 4S is better
Yes if we were to sum it all up in two lines.
KO2's all the way , Cooper's won't last .
Yes, if rotated properly, they last a long time.
The KO2 suck in the rain AT3 are great in the rain. You can tell by the tread pattern.
Yes Ko2 sipes aren't that optimized to prevent slippage in rainy conditions, comparatively.
I won't buy another set of ko2's. As soon as the weather gets moisture in it, these tires slip all over the road. I've never had a tire perform so poorly in the rain/wet conditions and they're loud.
Yes, wet traction needs to be improved on KO2. Let's see if they fix it on KO3.
all keep my Goodyear durtrack
Nice
how many people have had BFGoodrich with a puncture!
You are not going to find a lot. The only tire which provides as strong a sidewall as the KO2, is Mickey Baja Boss AT (You can find it's comparison video on the channels homepage as well).
Me, I had one on E rated KO2’s.
Forget both of them, the toyo open country is way better than both of these
Then you may wanna check out its videos on our channel.
Don't buy the KO2 if you don't know what you want from a tire. Stay on non-all terrain tires if you only drive on dirt roads at most. A dirt road isn't OFF ROAD.
Well said
The Yokohama Geolander is much better !
Yea, we are going to publish its video soon.
Try owning these tires and vehicles, because until then it's not based on real world use. Like those replying. 😉
@Mauser1965 That's definitely the ideal way to assess performance! Real-world use is the best determinant of how well a tire performs.
AT3 IS MY WINNER
Good to know
Got 5yr old coopers a bit noisy at highway speeds. I just hear the K02s are rubbish in the wet from toyota forums
@samartz Thanks for sharing your experience. The noise level at highway speeds can be a decisive factor for many drivers. Your feedback is valuable!
Coopers are bad in the rain, horrible in snow
But yes, you can say, comparign with KO2, its wet traction isn't so bad after all.
AT3 are junk. 30K and rotate every 5K..Junk. KO2 on 5 service trucks avg 59K hard driving.
Yes, on some sizes you can say that.
KO2 SUCK IN SNOW.
hmmm. okay.
Whoever reads the comments whilst hes blabbering.
Basically, KO2s are better.
Done.
Thanks for sharing. If you listen to blabbering carefully, you'll know where KO2 is better and where it's not. That's the whole point of a comparison review. There are a lot of on and off-road factors you need to consider, and a tire cannot be better in all of them.
@@comparethetire better on rocks and mud. Equal in snow and coopers are leaps and bounds better on wet and dry pavement. Coopers may get noisy as they wear but are still quieter than bfg. Plus you can get them for $80 a tire less if you shop around...
@comparethetire man where can I get a set for as low as 80$? I’m serious smh lol
I'll stick with my General grabber 😊
Nice Pick, its one of the longest lasting tire.
I watched 48 seconds of this video, then the horrible music made me give up.
Sorry about that. We will try to keep it to a minimum next time.
@@comparethetire Thank you very much. It would help me to enjoy your narrative, which you, no doubt, spent time and effort to compose.