Hi, Thanks for your videos on workstations. Its really helpful as I am scouting for a refurbished 7920. But they dont mention which exact model of xeon processors are supported. Where can I find this information?
Hi there!, Thanks for the question! Check out the Technical Guide pages 8 and 9 for second and first generation processors, respectively. www.delltechnologies.com/asset/en-us/products/workstations/technical-support/Precision_7920_Tower_Technical_Guidebook.pdf I do get the impression this is a short list, as in general, it lists 1st and 2nd gen Intel Xeon CPUs from Platinum, Gold 6, Gold 5, Silver 4, and Bronze 3. The specific processors listed may just be what have been vetted by Dell on this platform. There are a few other specs if you read the sections before. Hope that helps! Thanks for commenting and watching, and have a great holiday!
The biggest reason to get this over the Z8 is it supports up to 10 HDDs while the Z8 maxes out at 6. The former allows you to do 3XSSD + 6XHDD Storage Spaces Direct. That said, who am I kidding, I'm never gonna be able to afford a PC that costs more than a car.
Yea, fully outfitted these crazy "appliances" cost upwards of 100K. That said , we are using a Z8 G4 for our video rendering with only 32GB of DDR4 memory, a scalable Gold 5122 processor , a 1080TI GPU (not on the list of supported GPUs, just an FYI…) and an M.2 NVMe drive for the boot. there are a few other drives in there but that's the basics. Obviously still A LOT of room for expansion but the real question. Can you fully outfit one of these over time before the hardware is obsolete? Inquiring minds do want to know. Thanks for watching!
@@Itcreations-LA This is my configuration. HP: Z600 OS: Windows 10 pro X64 for workstations Processor: 2x Intel Xeon X5650 6x 2,66 GHz,-3,06 GHz (12 cores total, 24 thread) RAM: 32GB (4x8 GB) DDR3-1333 ECC Unbuffered RAM for 2-CPU VIDEO: Zotac GTX 1060 AMP 6GB Soundcard: Creative Soundblaster Z SSD: Crucial MX500 CT1000MX500SSD1 1TB (3D NAND, SATA, 2.5 Inch, Internal SSD) Monitor: LG 34UM58 (34 coll, 21:9, 2560x1080) External HDDs: 1TB Toshiba + 1TB Toshiba + 8TB Western Digital. I’m not saying I don’t crave a DELL “nuclear power plant” like I saw in the video. But I have to say I’m not a president, so I don’t have a million salary. Of course I, like most people, want a fucking strong RIG. I want to edit real-time 6K video, create 3D animations from billions of polygons, and I could list. I can’t imagine where other people have a RIG worth hundreds of thousands or millions. I raised the money for 7 months to buy the Z600. + to the RED Cinema camera ... That is the fckn world. Anyone who wants something and could use it has no chance. And there are those who buy and do not make full use of the resources of the PC. I'm sorry that way ... it doesn't matter. I wish you a nice day. :(
Hi there! I suppose it depends on how much storage you need as 3.5" or 2.5" SSDs will provide more. M.2s on the other hand quite fast. These are the M.2 caddies but you need the 3.5-inch drive bays for the front of the system with backplane.www.itcreations.com/product/105595 For one of the flex bays, you need something like this, which will fit 2x of these M.2 caddies. One in each of the 3.5-inch bays : www.itcreations.com/product/129580 Or two of those for both flex bays. I am not sure if this is set up for SATA or NVMe. Check this out for the various kits, some for the front some for the rear. www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-bj/000146243/upgrading-storage-in-the-dell-precision-5820-7820-7920-tower-workstations Thanks for watching!
Great presentation. I just wish there were more follow up videos about this. This is the only youtube channel having a full detailed review of this ridiculous machine, even after almost 2 years lol. Also, is it possible to have 2 Dell Thunderbolt 3 PCIe expansion cards in the back and 2 more in the front 5.25" bay for a total of 6 Thunderbolt ports?
Hi Gate, I get the impression you can only have two ports max. Apparently, Thunderbolt is a board feature so you need a certain Thunderbolt module on the system board to support thunderbolt. When you order the system you have the option of with Thunderbolt 3.0 or without. This has been a problem for many. There is a PCIe card that should do the trick, it comes with a cable and will provide two Thunderbolt ports. This guy was looking for one for a 7820, which should work for your 7920 too. www.dell.com/community/Precision-Fixed-Workstations/Dell-precision-7820-Thunderbolt-add-in-card/m-p/6111983#M639 Good luck and thank for watching!
HI Robert, You do have options with the M.2 drives. there are special caddies that you can get for the front bays, like this : www.itcreations.com/view_product.asp?product_id=105595 or you can go with a PCIe mounted M.2 of which there are single, dual, and quad M.2 PCie cards that you can Bifurcate the PCIe lanes to create a RAID group for performance or data resiliency, like this one: www.itcreations.com/view_product.asp?product_id=97264. We also carry the full system and can custom configure to your specs if interested. Hope that helps, and thanks for watching!
Hi Tong, If you have the T7920, which I am assuming you do, then you shouldn't need anything to install the GPUs as the wiring should already be there. The T7920 will support up to 3x 300W graphics cards for a total of 900W of graphical goodness! The RTC 6000 cards require 260W each for a total of 780 W. You will need dual processors. Here is teh spec sheet for the RTX card: www.nvidia.com/content/dam/en-zz/Solutions/design-visualization/quadro-product-literature/quadro-rtx-6000-us-nvidia-704093-r4-web.pdf Here is a new spec sheet for the 7920, which BTW can be upgraded to support the 2nd gen Scalable processors (Skylake) and we have a video for that on our channel. i.dell.com/sites/csdocuments/Shared-Content_data-Sheets_Documents/en/us/Precision-7920-Tower-Spec-Sheet.pdf Your system sounds like a beast! Thanks for watching!
@@Itcreations-LA I'm told that HP Z8 G4 cant handle 2x RTX 3090 350W so total like 700W or 750W. It has 1700W PSU while this DELL has onlu 1450W. What am I missing here? Is this DELL use single 12V Rail for power??
Outside of The standard parts.. (CPU, GPU, Ram, HDD'S/SSD'S and possibly the fans.. ?) but the motherboard and PSU are proprietary As hell like the board isn't even relatively ATX in the slightest..
indeed it does for certain 2nd gen CPUs! Check out page 12 of this guide file:///C:/Users/Marketing-Doug/Downloads/Precision_7920_Tower_Technical_Guidebook.pdf Thanks for watching!
Just search for Dell Precision 7920 problems, many many posts, ram other then dell does not work, boot post problems etc. Do same for hp z8 g4 snd no such complaints.
How does this System compare with the Lenovo ThinkStation P920? On base specs I notice that this System offers higher options for processors and larger overall RAM capacity support (2TB vs 3TB), I'm interested to know if there will be any possibility of Intel Optane Memory Support on the Dell T7920 in the future seeing as the Scalable platform does support it, useful to know as I'm intending to purchase a Workstation that will last me a few years (With a few Graphics Card upgrades inbetween), Your videos cover most of the basics of the systems which helps to give a better idea of what each Workstation has to offer
Hi Yadro Khan, i have no idea but definitely north of 100K. Some guy did price what you would need to outfit the HP Z8 G4. The Z8 G4 is HP's top of the line system and has very similar specs to the Dell 7920. One of the viewers priced and listed all the components for that one but even still at $120,000 he is still not using 128GB memroy modules. Check out the list here, his or her handle is iCatch Music and it's from 4 months ago: ua-cam.com/video/_72nUsBJoyQ/v-deo.html Thanks for watching!
If you are doing general stuff. We are going to post an upgrade video for the Dell 7920 either today or tomorrow and we configured a two processor system to do it. I can say it was very quiet, of course we were running 2x M.2 drives and 1 SSD so that in and of itself would cut down on the noise with no movable parts on the drives. The next thing which makes a lot of noise is are the fans. Using a liquid cooing heatsink will also cut down on noise but i did find this system to be very quiet in general. I do think it would be fine for the bedroom. Thanks for watching and remember $250 off by just mentioning this video!
Hey there Pinkeye00, Love the screen name BTW… Now, if you could connect that hot-swap unit to another system for data transfers, that might be something! Still an interesting feature that they seem to be running with on the server front with dual hot swap M.2 carriers in back for support of the OS like the Boot Optimized Storage Subsystem or BOSS. I think this is going somewhere. Somewhere… Thanks for watching and commenting!
I don't understand why do they still have keyboard and mouse outlets that are decades old and nobody will use them. usb is the way to go for over 10 years now...
Apparently there is a real reason to this madness: 1. backwards compatibility to old mice/keyboards 2. PS/2 is a faster connection than USB, useful for gamers, and it's plug and play without needing drives or software 3. something called n-key rollover, so it detects every button press individually even if you're pressing more than one, I guess not all USB keyboards support it. 4. Helps to free up USB ports for other uses. Thanks for watching!
@@Itcreations-LA thanks for the reply. On newbmodels they dont have those outlets anymore... And yes, USB supports multiple keys to be played at the same time. I play music that way...
@@Itcreations-LA It's actually even simpler than that, compatibility with existing fixed workflows. You can hook up some of the oldest PC-compatible keyboards and barcode scanners ever made to that port. It's important for centralized inventory management for businesses that can't afford or don't want to pay for the additional costs of brand new $300+ professional grade scanners and integrated PoS keyboards, but need to upgrade their central inventory record keeping server.
@@Itcreations-LA Love your guys' videos by the way, even if my dinky little company of 5 can't afford to buy brand new direct from you guys, your video backlog has saved us thousands on would-be bad used hardware purchases.
I don’t recommend this unit. In less than 11 months dell has replaced mother board, video card and on my 3rd m.2 drives. The last time a dell tech serviced this unit he crashed my C: drive. It only took me 30 hours to get it backup and running. 🤬 Buyer be ware.
Macs are sooooo overated. They can be good but Windows is boss. Good luck trying to get a Mac with 48TB of storage, 2 Xeon Platinum 28 core, 3TB of ram and 3 RTX 8000. PS The HP looks nasty. Looks like from around 2010. SO dated looking.
Hi Jared, we never did benchmark this system on Fortnite as it is not a gaming platform. That said, it would probably perform fairly well but not at the top of the stack with ECC memory and standard CPUs not suited to overclocking. This video is almost 4 years old so not going to be updating with benchmarks. I'm sure somebody has done it though… Thanks for watching and commenting.
Only reason why the HP and Dell options clock above normal human prices is because of the Xeon and its ECC memory options. Otherwise, just overpriced junk in comparison to AMD's offerings. Intel has lost its way.
Good thing about this guy he perfectly don't waste time short to the point. Excellent 👌👍
Hi, Thanks for your videos on workstations. Its really helpful as I am scouting for a refurbished 7920. But they dont mention which exact model of xeon processors are supported. Where can I find this information?
Hi there!,
Thanks for the question! Check out the Technical Guide pages 8 and 9 for second and first generation processors, respectively.
www.delltechnologies.com/asset/en-us/products/workstations/technical-support/Precision_7920_Tower_Technical_Guidebook.pdf
I do get the impression this is a short list, as in general, it lists 1st and 2nd gen Intel Xeon CPUs from Platinum, Gold 6, Gold 5, Silver 4, and Bronze 3. The specific processors listed may just be what have been vetted by Dell on this platform. There are a few other specs if you read the sections before. Hope that helps! Thanks for commenting and watching, and have a great holiday!
The biggest reason to get this over the Z8 is it supports up to 10 HDDs while the Z8 maxes out at 6. The former allows you to do 3XSSD + 6XHDD Storage Spaces Direct.
That said, who am I kidding, I'm never gonna be able to afford a PC that costs more than a car.
Yea, fully outfitted these crazy "appliances" cost upwards of 100K. That said , we are using a Z8 G4 for our video rendering with only 32GB of DDR4 memory, a scalable Gold 5122 processor , a 1080TI GPU (not on the list of supported GPUs, just an FYI…) and an M.2 NVMe drive for the boot. there are a few other drives in there but that's the basics. Obviously still A LOT of room for expansion but the real question. Can you fully outfit one of these over time before the hardware is obsolete? Inquiring minds do want to know. Thanks for watching!
@@Itcreations-LA Ha, definitely not. My max annual PC spend is generally around $2K 😔 Envious of your Z8!
HAHAHAA
Full config List Price $387,604.34
And i can save 250 USD. Wow what a generous thing.....
Hahaahahaha! Yea, these are crazy expensive to outfit. Thanks for commenting!
@@Itcreations-LA
This is my configuration.
HP: Z600
OS: Windows 10 pro X64 for workstations
Processor: 2x Intel Xeon X5650 6x 2,66 GHz,-3,06 GHz (12 cores total, 24 thread)
RAM: 32GB (4x8 GB) DDR3-1333 ECC Unbuffered RAM for 2-CPU
VIDEO: Zotac GTX 1060 AMP 6GB
Soundcard: Creative Soundblaster Z
SSD: Crucial MX500 CT1000MX500SSD1 1TB (3D NAND, SATA, 2.5 Inch, Internal SSD)
Monitor: LG 34UM58 (34 coll, 21:9, 2560x1080)
External HDDs: 1TB Toshiba + 1TB Toshiba + 8TB Western Digital.
I’m not saying I don’t crave a DELL “nuclear power plant” like I saw in the video. But I have to say I’m not a president, so I don’t have a million salary. Of course I, like most people, want a fucking strong RIG. I want to edit real-time 6K video, create 3D animations from billions of polygons, and I could list. I can’t imagine where other people have a RIG worth hundreds of thousands or millions. I raised the money for 7 months to buy the Z600. + to the RED Cinema camera ... That is the fckn world. Anyone who wants something and could use it has no chance. And there are those who buy and do not make full use of the resources of the PC. I'm sorry that way ... it doesn't matter. I wish you a nice day. :(
@@palikanagy3062 Looks like a nice setup, even if it is a few years old! We use Red for our Video too. Very nice…
@@palikanagy3062 what was the price?
Where we can buy this hot swap 4 for nvme in front ?
Is or just 2 ssd is better
Hi there!
I suppose it depends on how much storage you need as 3.5" or 2.5" SSDs will provide more. M.2s on the other hand quite fast. These are the M.2 caddies but you need the 3.5-inch drive bays for the front of the system with backplane.www.itcreations.com/product/105595
For one of the flex bays, you need something like this, which will fit 2x of these M.2 caddies. One in each of the 3.5-inch bays :
www.itcreations.com/product/129580
Or two of those for both flex bays. I am not sure if this is set up for SATA or NVMe.
Check this out for the various kits, some for the front some for the rear.
www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-bj/000146243/upgrading-storage-in-the-dell-precision-5820-7820-7920-tower-workstations
Thanks for watching!
Great presentation. I just wish there were more follow up videos about this. This is the only youtube channel having a full detailed review of this ridiculous machine, even after almost 2 years lol.
Also, is it possible to have 2 Dell Thunderbolt 3 PCIe expansion cards in the back and 2 more in the front 5.25" bay for a total of 6 Thunderbolt ports?
Hi Gate, I get the impression you can only have two ports max. Apparently, Thunderbolt is a board feature so you need a certain Thunderbolt module on the system board to support thunderbolt. When you order the system you have the option of with Thunderbolt 3.0 or without. This has been a problem for many. There is a PCIe card that should do the trick, it comes with a cable and will provide two Thunderbolt ports. This guy was looking for one for a 7820, which should work for your 7920 too. www.dell.com/community/Precision-Fixed-Workstations/Dell-precision-7820-Thunderbolt-add-in-card/m-p/6111983#M639
Good luck and thank for watching!
Great video! Is it possible to configure the USB C in the front of the t7920 for Tunderbolt support? If not, is there a TB_header slot on this board?
best to get a seperate expansion card honesty usb to tb translations reduce throughput significantly and increase latency
Does the T7920 have M.2 nvme SSD slots directly on the motherboard, or do you need to buy an adapter to use?
HI Robert,
You do have options with the M.2 drives. there are special caddies that you can get for the front bays, like this : www.itcreations.com/view_product.asp?product_id=105595 or you can go with a PCIe mounted M.2 of which there are single, dual, and quad M.2 PCie cards that you can Bifurcate the PCIe lanes to create a RAID group for performance or data resiliency, like this one: www.itcreations.com/view_product.asp?product_id=97264. We also carry the full system and can custom configure to your specs if interested. Hope that helps, and thanks for watching!
What is the part needed to install 3 RTX6000 graphic card? The chassis is Cascade Lake (CL).
Hi Tong, If you have the T7920, which I am assuming you do, then you shouldn't need anything to install the GPUs as the wiring should already be there. The T7920 will support up to 3x 300W graphics cards for a total of 900W of graphical goodness! The RTC 6000 cards require 260W each for a total of 780 W. You will need dual processors. Here is teh spec sheet for the RTX card: www.nvidia.com/content/dam/en-zz/Solutions/design-visualization/quadro-product-literature/quadro-rtx-6000-us-nvidia-704093-r4-web.pdf Here is a new spec sheet for the 7920, which BTW can be upgraded to support the 2nd gen Scalable processors (Skylake) and we have a video for that on our channel. i.dell.com/sites/csdocuments/Shared-Content_data-Sheets_Documents/en/us/Precision-7920-Tower-Spec-Sheet.pdf Your system sounds like a beast! Thanks for watching!
@@Itcreations-LA I'm told that HP Z8 G4 cant handle 2x RTX 3090 350W so total like 700W or 750W. It has 1700W PSU while this DELL has onlu 1450W. What am I missing here? Is this DELL use single 12V Rail for power??
I was wondering if I could put everything from a sff optiplex in that
Hi RTG The Best, I believe you are right! I was thinking about adding a little cooler for beer. Thanks for watching!
Outside of The standard parts.. (CPU, GPU, Ram, HDD'S/SSD'S and possibly the fans.. ?) but the motherboard and PSU are proprietary As hell like the board isn't even relatively ATX in the slightest..
@@aunabreslingaming3279 Indeed. Well said.
Please suggest the desktop for CAD software like creo, catia, hypermesh for its smooth running.
Hello does this support intel optane memory dims if we upgrade to second gen processor!?
indeed it does for certain 2nd gen CPUs! Check out page 12 of this guide file:///C:/Users/Marketing-Doug/Downloads/Precision_7920_Tower_Technical_Guidebook.pdf
Thanks for watching!
Just search for Dell Precision 7920 problems, many many posts, ram other then dell does not work, boot post problems etc. Do same for hp z8 g4 snd no such complaints.
Most info packed video ever!
How does this System compare with the Lenovo ThinkStation P920? On base specs I notice that this System offers higher options for processors and larger overall RAM capacity support (2TB vs 3TB), I'm interested to know if there will be any possibility of Intel Optane Memory Support on the Dell T7920 in the future seeing as the Scalable platform does support it, useful to know as I'm intending to purchase a Workstation that will last me a few years (With a few Graphics Card upgrades inbetween), Your videos cover most of the basics of the systems which helps to give a better idea of what each Workstation has to offer
What is the cost with full configuration
Hi Yadro Khan,
i have no idea but definitely north of 100K. Some guy did price what you would need to outfit the HP Z8 G4. The Z8 G4 is HP's top of the line system and has very similar specs to the Dell 7920. One of the viewers priced and listed all the components for that one but even still at $120,000 he is still not using 128GB memroy modules. Check out the list here, his or her handle is iCatch Music and it's from 4 months ago: ua-cam.com/video/_72nUsBJoyQ/v-deo.html
Thanks for watching!
The PC cost about £38,000
@@poltergeist1105 Keep going for full configuration…
@@Itcreations-LA about 50000$
@@marcusgamerpro6629 Hmm. Double that and add about 20K.
how much cache per processor and cache is L3 or L4 ?
Can you tell me where to buy the 7920's audio module?
shit could run real life at max graphics
Is it quiet enough to be used in bedroom? Thanks.
If you are doing general stuff. We are going to post an upgrade video for the Dell 7920 either today or tomorrow and we configured a two processor system to do it. I can say it was very quiet, of course we were running 2x M.2 drives and 1 SSD so that in and of itself would cut down on the noise with no movable parts on the drives. The next thing which makes a lot of noise is are the fans. Using a liquid cooing heatsink will also cut down on noise but i did find this system to be very quiet in general. I do think it would be fine for the bedroom. Thanks for watching and remember $250 off by just mentioning this video!
Great content. A lot of information. This dude don't speak, he shoots words like a machine gun! Lol
La fuente como se extrae
M.2 hotswap is just dumb as an idea, especially when you have no onboard options.
Hey there Pinkeye00,
Love the screen name BTW… Now, if you could connect that hot-swap unit to another system for data transfers, that might be something! Still an interesting feature that they seem to be running with on the server front with dual hot swap M.2 carriers in back for support of the OS like the Boot Optimized Storage Subsystem or BOSS. I think this is going somewhere. Somewhere… Thanks for watching and commenting!
I don't understand why do they still have keyboard and mouse outlets that are decades old and nobody will use them. usb is the way to go for over 10 years now...
Apparently there is a real reason to this madness:
1. backwards compatibility to old mice/keyboards
2. PS/2 is a faster connection than USB, useful for gamers, and it's plug and play without needing drives or software
3. something called n-key rollover, so it detects every button press individually even if you're pressing more than one, I guess not all USB keyboards support it.
4. Helps to free up USB ports for other uses.
Thanks for watching!
@@Itcreations-LA thanks for the reply. On newbmodels they dont have those outlets anymore... And yes, USB supports multiple keys to be played at the same time. I play music that way...
@@Itcreations-LA It's actually even simpler than that, compatibility with existing fixed workflows. You can hook up some of the oldest PC-compatible keyboards and barcode scanners ever made to that port. It's important for centralized inventory management for businesses that can't afford or don't want to pay for the additional costs of brand new $300+ professional grade scanners and integrated PoS keyboards, but need to upgrade their central inventory record keeping server.
Thanks@@KiraSlith
Great information!
@@Itcreations-LA Love your guys' videos by the way, even if my dinky little company of 5 can't afford to buy brand new direct from you guys, your video backlog has saved us thousands on would-be bad used hardware purchases.
I don’t recommend this unit. In less than 11 months dell has replaced mother board, video card and on my 3rd m.2 drives. The last time a dell tech serviced this unit he crashed my C: drive. It only took me 30 hours to get it backup and running. 🤬 Buyer be ware.
Hi D Ford, that is truly a tragic tale, I suppose even electronics can have lemons… Thanks for watching!
Notice you said "Dell has replaced." So it cost you nothing but downtime, which is kinda good.
@@JudahRichardson1 I don't think this is worthy of a heart as I don't love it but I don;t not like it! Thumbs way up! Thanks for watching!
In your face mac pro 2019 cheese grater.
Macs are sooooo overated. They can be good but Windows is boss. Good luck trying to get a Mac with 48TB of storage, 2 Xeon Platinum 28 core, 3TB of ram and 3 RTX 8000.
PS The HP looks nasty. Looks like from around 2010. SO dated looking.
this is not meant to compete with the new Mac because they run different OS and therefore, used for different tasks
Esto es mucho mejor que las sobrevaloradas Mac Pro de Apple
Hahaahahah!
Can U suggest me a workstation PC for multimedia animation under 600DOLLERS
Hi Subash, Sorry I cannot help you out on that, we only sell the high-end workstations… Thanks for watching!
how much fps on fortnite
Hi Jared, we never did benchmark this system on Fortnite as it is not a gaming platform. That said, it would probably perform fairly well but not at the top of the stack with ECC memory and standard CPUs not suited to overclocking. This video is almost 4 years old so not going to be updating with benchmarks. I'm sure somebody has done it though… Thanks for watching and commenting.
Only reason why the HP and Dell options clock above normal human prices is because of the Xeon and its ECC memory options. Otherwise, just overpriced junk in comparison to AMD's offerings. Intel has lost its way.