Passmark tends to be the go-to for enterprise hardware benchmarks when it comes to the CPU side. Plus the Mega Page makes exploring component options way easier.
Thank you so much for introducing me to these machines, affordable bargains with great upgrade options. Very affordable 3d workstations with the addition of a decent graphics card. You’ve won a subscriber!
As someone who has flipped dozens of these after decommissioning them... Take a drill, and go down the side panel and just barley touch all the little weld spots on the GPU bracket, then take a flat head screw driver and it pops off, door handle still works, and side panel closes. They have had some variation of that bracket thing from the T3600 on.
@@daroniousmaximus to keep from drilling to much you can take a self tapping screw in a drill or impact and just barely touch the rivet or weld bumps (depending on model) and just grind them off. Take it slow and if your overly concerned on going to deep or leaving a noticeable bump on the outside go even lighter, you just might have to pry a little harder to break the welds the rest of the way.
I love the build quality on these big Dells. We use HP workstations at work and I don't think they are as solid. I picked one of these up recently, it was an ex-lease, three year old i9 10940X and I think it's excellent value for what you get.
I just bought the exact same tower, configured differently. Nothing like a getting a Xeon workstation at a great price and in good condition. Thanks for sharing.
Excellent breakdown and overview video of this workstation model with pros and cons included. Kudos to the thoroughness of your cleaning and refurbishing of this unit.
Excellent video! I have 3 of these machines myself and love them. With regards to the GPU size, you can actually remove the black plastic cover on the side panel and install taller GPUs.
The "GPU support bracket" is kinda useless. It's meant for bracing "full-height" cards (the same height as the PCIe bracket) in shipping, but unless you're using a stock Dell GPU with the lip at the end, it just guarantees the GPU will rip the socket off the board first. It's fine to just remove it. It's held in with a few spot welds you can easily drill without leaving noticeable damage on the interior panel. Sometimes you can give it a sharp tug and it'll come off too.
Old comment but still, this is not a server, there are no 'Precision' servers. Nor would any server ever make a good workstation really, because servers are not designed to be sat next to they have noisy fans, noisy air flow, noisy drives and no useful graphics options often. Even if they have space(most don't) you often don't have pcie power etc. You can turn a workstation into a server fairly nicely, but not the other way around. I've tried many times. Now I have a 14 core T5810 with 128Gb RAM, P4000 GPU and 1Tb SSD in M.2 pcie card which is a fairly decent "serverlike" spec workstation for not that much money. Not superfast but it's also not too slow, fairly quiet, looks OK. It can do what I need it to, including run several VM at decent speed. And I can play games on it if I want hehe. It will get more M.2 SSD's later probably, to use as dedicated drives for VM's, and maybe some more NIC's also for VM.
Great video. I just bought one of these last month from the Dell Refurbished site (with that 50% off coupon that has been there forever it seems). II know it's overkill, but 'm using my T5820 6-core machine for my AV command center (to replace a very noisy old Dell workstation laptop that was getting on in years) . It came with a BD player, but I had to buy software to play Blu-Rays as well as needing to buy a DP to HDMI active converter...ugh. That being said, the picture on my display looks incredible after tweaking the NVIDIA control panel settings. And it is whisper quiet. Joy!
Thx for the vid, I was considering upgrading from my Z640 with E5-1640 V4, and RTX 2070, to a Lenovo P520 with a W-Xeon. I will hold off for now the performance is very close. Your User benchmark gaming score was only 2% higher than mine.
When the pandemic lockdowns hit I decided to grab a new machine and between PC parts being unobtanium at the time and HP and Lenovo workstations being sold for more than they were worth I grabbed myself a T5810 for like $300. Served me well as a workstation until I got a new machine built then with an upgraded (E5-2678 V3 ) CPU served me well as a server. Currently trying to decide what to do with the old workhorse as I've gone down the home lab rabbit hole and have thrown everything in a rack but truth is I could still be using the Dell as my main workstation. Great machines considering the prices you can get them for used (though swapping the fans and/or replacing the CPU cooler might be needed).
Those extra fan connectors (probably among other things) seem to be populated on the larger version, the T7820. Just telling from a picture search for T5820 & T7820...
Thanks for your information. That's true, they are for the 2-CPU versions. I forgot to mention in the video, as I notice, the rear chasis seems to be compatible with additional dual 92mm fans. That's why I think that the missing connector is a kind of barrier for additional fans with full PWM control.
Absolutely love these Dell precision workstations. I was lucky enough to pick up three 7820s that had the dual-CPU trays paired with two pairs of Xeon Silver 4110 and a pair of Xeon gold (Can't remember the skew) as well as 96GB of ram each and Quadro P2000s. Picked each system up for only $50 since the business was upgrading and planned to scrap them, the only downside was not letting me keep the SSD's but I can understand why.
Funny how the UA-cam algorithm works. I am currently watching this video on one of these machines that I managed to get from work for free! Mine has a i9-10908XE, 64 gb of ram and, a Radeon Pro W5700. Love this computer to death!
Actually I have been great fan of T5600 series, but at that time, I bought a High End Laptop, But love is still their, Actually I am thinking of buying one 5820 and 7820 are options, actually I need it for High end Graphic Designing and Occasional Gaming.
Nice video! I'm a fan of Dell refurbs myself. Probably because I was a Dell warranty repair tech years and years ago. Although I'm very happy with my Optiplex 7010 I wouldn't mind getting a Precision.
What one has to do to modify and shape a pre-assembled desktop PC. For my part, I am very satisfied to leave my HP TG01 with all the possible modifications. You have a PC of excellence, I congratulate you.
9:30 over the years i noticed the only real purpose the pci latches seem to have is to make it harder to remove the gpu. the latch model printed on the motherboard is made of flexible plastic and you don't even need to touch it if you need to remove the gpu. just pull harder and it comes off anyways. as i said, these latches are there only to be a problem. latches that are made similar to the tabs used in ram slots are the worst because you have to hold them with a screwdriver so it doesn't lock itself again while removing the gpu. unironically i consider the missing gpu latches to be an upgrade.
Thanks for your opinion. After reading your comment, now I think the same, it seems to be ok without them. At the time I did that clip, I forgot that this PC tends to work with a closed side cover. The side cover already provides a kind of support/pressure to make the GPU firm.
I was delighted to come across your video and know that I can upgrade on my own my T5820 that I bought with a small P2000 and replace it with a RTX 4070 using those 8 pin connectors. One doubt, my CPU is a XEON W2145 Do you know if it can be upgraded to the refresh version W2245. Dell does not say anything, but as they are of the same architecture I would assume that yes, but officially there is no news from DELL.
I guess I'm staying away from the workstation. Lenovo P520 or HP Z4 G4 seems a better choice for having dual M.2 and space for more drives by converting 2x5.25"
i got a Dell Precision T7910 about 2 weeks ago from my local freegeek. i upgraded the CPU from a Xeon E5-2620v3 to a E5-2650v4 for $15 and its a night and day diffence now. i went from 40-60FPS in sea of thieves to 70-200FPS i have a 3070 inside it. im going to be adding other E5-2650v4 to it becuz its so cheap.
Nice! I just got a T5810 to replace my T3610, and this video makes me jealous. Mainly the dual-8 pin for GPU power (having 2x6 or 1x8 really limits my GPU options), but all the other advances like all of the front-panel USB being 3.0, the much better PCIe cooling, all of the rear USB being 3.0, four drive bays instead of 2 and all of them hot-swappable, the much easier to access CPU/RAM shroud (though I also paid $100 for the base 5810... with no CPU or RAM). I have to admit though that case intrusion thing seems maddening, having it both shut off the PC and have no way to disable it while it blares an alarm in your ears. I had the cover off half the time while I was testing/getting up my 5810 and that would have driven me crazy. But it definitely has a lot of upgrades I wished mine had. Oh, and that ridiculously overpriced M.2 adapter instead of just plain having M.2 ports on the motherboard is asinine, glad that you can just use a M.2 to PCIe adapter card.
This is a (nearly) exact workstation of the same date and serviable period of my still current unit and has been my most reliable CAD workhorse ever. My next system will always be a DELL standard build becasue of this. You pay a little more at first but overall always works out cheaper.
Seu vídeo foi extremamente satisfatório, adorei assistir todo conteúdo que por sua vez ficou muito bem detalhado. Agora superou a minha vontade de comprar um CPU deste mesmo modelo. Abraços 🇧🇷
I just picked up a t7820 for $350 and I don't know how i could possibly need more computer. I do video editing with 4k 120 and I don't see the need to go any farther.
Sorry for slow response. Yes, it's great for multi-gpu setup. In my situation, CPU is more demand, thus the the noise is high at heavy load. If you have a similar situation, checkout another video of mine. I managed to reduce the fan noise significantly without sacrifying the performance.
I got mine 7820 with dual Xenon for 600 (pls extra year warranty) I had to buy the vroc key to get the raid working on the m.2 with the card... arriving today!
@@icemanleo TPM check of Windows 11 can be software-bypassed easily. The only consideration (for me) to upgrade may be the power cost-efficiency of the old machines.
Nice one & its windows 11 compatible if i remember right. Must admit im really happy with my current refurbed t5810 for a bit of casual 1080p gaming so the t5820 is a fairly good guess for a the next step up in 2025 when support for win10 ends.
Thanks for your comment. That's true, the Windows 11 is being officially supported for this 2019 T5820. I also tried the T5810 recently (I have a video about it). For my gaming demand it's fine, but for work demand, it's a little too outdate meachine. That's why i was looking for the T5820.
Thanks for your question. I haven't measured at wall and I hope to do it soon. But I here is my estimation basing on software measuring and power rate for each components. CPU+GPU: By using MSI Afterburner to measure, the CPU takes upto 160w (a little higher than manufacturer stated), the GPU takes upto 200w (factory clocks). You can see it at 15:56. RAM sticks: I assume 4*3W=12W at most Storages: I assume 10W for 1 HDD + 1 NVMe drive Motherboard: I assume it takes 50W at full load Fans: base on the power rate lable, each can comsumes upto 10W at full load, but they never reach full speed at Auto fan scheme, so I assume 4 fans take 5W*4=20W PSU: it's 80 Plus Gold standard, so I assume the power lost is 10% The estimated result at full load (measured at wall plug) could be: (160+200+20+12+10+50)*100/90=502W
According to the EVGA website, the card used in this video has a height of 139.3 mm, that's probably a good metric for others to keep handy when shopping for GPUs.
Nice work, good video. I just picked up a T5820, can you go over the Samsung 980 NVMe PCIe M.2 1TB & PCIe adapter you purchased? Trying to figure out what to buy and load windows 10 on it.
Thanks for your comment. Here is what i purchased: The M.2 adapter: www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/gp/product/B07FN3YZ8P/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title The M.2 drive: www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Samsung-PCIe-Internal-MZ-V8V1T0B-EC/dp/B08XY3QQBK/ref=sr_1_5
Thank you for your question. If you mean the white one, it's the PCI connector, a kind of legacy parallel interface, not PCIe. Other than that, all the black are standard PCIe connector.
If you are in the US, Dell Refurbished has a half price coupon for the 5820's they show at the top of their workstation page (it's been there since May I think) - they must have hundreds and hundreds coming off lease - might be a good idea to get one with an SSD so you don't need to add the pricey flex bay.
Thanks for your comment. The slots could be open-ended (as I experienced with some Dell SFF model) if their physical size is less than x16 (like x4 x8) so that the x16 cards can be installed. For those in this machine, they don’t need to be because their physical size is x16.
I just bought a 5820 and its in route to me right now. I actually picked up a rx6800 for really cheap this weekend. I am worried that it won't fit in the case though. The 6800 is 13.4 inches long. Is there any way you could give me a meaurement so I can figure out if it would fit?
Thanks for your comment. I had the same situation on my old T5810 because it was shipped with a low-profile GPU which doesn't requires external power. So I end up buying a new third-party pair of cable from Amazon.
Thanks for your comment. Compare to your given component, this machine should perform much better. But the Xeon W-2155 CPU may be too redundant for gaming and it would cost.
How’s gpu cooling? Getting same temp on mine, but fans run at 3k. Mine 5810 by the way, was thinking to replace front fans with silent ones and increase speed like you did :)
Thanks for your comment. Now I temporarily stay far from it so I cannot provide the exact RPM count. I will provide more information later. Generally, the EVGA RTX 2080 I used in this video run silently enough to make me forget about RPM measurment. By the way, what the GPU model are you using?
Wow 950 watt psu that impressive for a used prebuilt pc from dell, they usually always underpowered like 250/300 watt max 500 watt if it's a gaming machine
the 2nd set of fans (rear exhaust) is only populated when in dual CPU config. Yes, would be nice to leave the headers on the board for additional cooling when in single CPU config. But can purchase a dual CPU chassis/mobo and remove one CPU. 2nd set of fans here: ua-cam.com/video/SzePdQcMV2w/v-deo.htmlsi=GfxoZUBPatEqPtir&t=146
I'm getting kinda late to this video, but the build and also video is wonderful! At the moment I'm rocking a custom gaming full rgb pc, damn I mis using a server as my main right there is just something about workstations that it so wonderful.
yes and no there are different psu versions there are als 435w psu for his systems ones you put a power hungry gpu in it it wil not work you must keep in mind to get the one with 950w psu these are also included with the pci cables also is not every precision xeon there is also a version with the intel core i7 and i9 10th gen xeon w-2100 xeon w-2200 core i.-10gen psu 435w psu 950w so hope this explain
@@pieterpost8515your reply is a mess. Broken English i barely understand. Makes it sound like 435W is unusable. You can use a whole lot of cards on 435w PSU, GTX 1650 , 1660, 3050 and the incredibly low power 4060. And that's just Nvidia cards. From midrange to almost "high end". Sure 900W PSU is naturally even better and will support the real beefy cards.
@@Erikcleric sorry for my english i try to do it beter not in this system this system used alloth of power by default i have a xeon w-2195 18 core 768GB ram and i have the beast of the graphic cards the best there is right on this moment rtx a8000 i have power problems because i used to mutch power on this system i can't do al the upgrades it wil not work
@@thinhdora for a kind of hobby, I look in dumpsters and curbside stuff for electronics - PCs, laptops, Chromebooks, gaming systems, tablets, & other electronics! Thank you Domo arigato (3 X Nippon style bows) 🤓
Thanks for your comment. I think ESD occurs even when there's no power, so I guess that machenism could be for preventing any short circuit or protecting users from injury risks (like electric shock). It's good to have. Just a little annoying when we want to physically debug any components.
Newer CPU generations are usually better because they tends to have higher IPC, result in more efficient with the same core count and clock. You can search for the Passmark scores, that's the easy way to compare.
First mistake using user benchmark
What would you recommend?
@@WeirdSkeleton Game benchmarks or 3d mark time spy
3dmark is 1000 times better than this
@@geometrikselfelsefesi yup
Passmark tends to be the go-to for enterprise hardware benchmarks when it comes to the CPU side. Plus the Mega Page makes exploring component options way easier.
Thank you so much for introducing me to these machines, affordable bargains with great upgrade options. Very affordable 3d workstations with the addition of a decent graphics card. You’ve won a subscriber!
The soundtrack to the video is very pleasant. Well done!
As someone who has flipped dozens of these after decommissioning them... Take a drill, and go down the side panel and just barley touch all the little weld spots on the GPU bracket, then take a flat head screw driver and it pops off, door handle still works, and side panel closes. They have had some variation of that bracket thing from the T3600 on.
I put a GTX 1660 in mine and had this issue. Thanks Ill try this to remove that piece blocking it from closing.
@@daroniousmaximus to keep from drilling to much you can take a self tapping screw in a drill or impact and just barely touch the rivet or weld bumps (depending on model) and just grind them off. Take it slow and if your overly concerned on going to deep or leaving a noticeable bump on the outside go even lighter, you just might have to pry a little harder to break the welds the rest of the way.
@@JordosTechShack I actually ended up using the claw part of the hammer to brute force it off. Wasn't pretty but it worked!!
Nice and relaxing video! I've always found these chunky Dell workstations so interesting, such versatile machines!
If by versatile you mean pieces of shyte I mean sure.
@@insertnamehere4419 you're obviously clueless. Far from a pos
My 5820 tower has been an absolute workhorse since 2018 and still going strong). I will never buy anything else.
I love the build quality on these big Dells. We use HP workstations at work and I don't think they are as solid.
I picked one of these up recently, it was an ex-lease, three year old i9 10940X and I think it's excellent value for what you get.
I just bought the exact same tower, configured differently. Nothing like a getting a Xeon workstation at a great price and in good condition. Thanks for sharing.
Excellent breakdown and overview video of this workstation model with pros and cons included. Kudos to the thoroughness of your cleaning and refurbishing of this unit.
Excellent video! I have 3 of these machines myself and love them. With regards to the GPU size, you can actually remove the black plastic cover on the side panel and install taller GPUs.
The "GPU support bracket" is kinda useless. It's meant for bracing "full-height" cards (the same height as the PCIe bracket) in shipping, but unless you're using a stock Dell GPU with the lip at the end, it just guarantees the GPU will rip the socket off the board first. It's fine to just remove it.
It's held in with a few spot welds you can easily drill without leaving noticeable damage on the interior panel. Sometimes you can give it a sharp tug and it'll come off too.
Gorgeous build! OEM servers like this are a great base for affordable workstations.
Old comment but still, this is not a server, there are no 'Precision' servers. Nor would any server ever make a good workstation really, because servers are not designed to be sat next to they have noisy fans, noisy air flow, noisy drives and no useful graphics options often. Even if they have space(most don't) you often don't have pcie power etc. You can turn a workstation into a server fairly nicely, but not the other way around. I've tried many times. Now I have a 14 core T5810 with 128Gb RAM, P4000 GPU and 1Tb SSD in M.2 pcie card which is a fairly decent "serverlike" spec workstation for not that much money. Not superfast but it's also not too slow, fairly quiet, looks OK. It can do what I need it to, including run several VM at decent speed. And I can play games on it if I want hehe. It will get more M.2 SSD's later probably, to use as dedicated drives for VM's, and maybe some more NIC's also for VM.
@11:58 the black thing touching the GPU can be easily removed and you will have no problem with wider video cards.
Great video. I just bought one of these last month from the Dell Refurbished site (with that 50% off coupon that has been there forever it seems).
II know it's overkill, but 'm using my T5820 6-core machine for my AV command center (to replace a very noisy old Dell workstation laptop that was getting on in years) . It came with a BD player, but I had to buy software to play Blu-Rays as well as needing to buy a DP to HDMI active converter...ugh.
That being said, the picture on my display looks incredible after tweaking the NVIDIA control panel settings. And it is whisper quiet.
Joy!
Same. The way it runs in near-total silence under even a heavy load is so nice!
Thx for the vid, I was considering upgrading from my Z640 with E5-1640 V4, and RTX 2070, to a Lenovo P520 with a W-Xeon. I will hold off for now the performance is very close. Your User benchmark gaming score was only 2% higher than mine.
thats a really well built and clever design, thnak you for sharing. nice video !
Awesome Video, keep it rollin!
A lot of fun !!!!!!! Thanks for sharing
When the pandemic lockdowns hit I decided to grab a new machine and between PC parts being unobtanium at the time and HP and Lenovo workstations being sold for more than they were worth I grabbed myself a T5810 for like $300. Served me well as a workstation until I got a new machine built then with an upgraded (E5-2678 V3 ) CPU served me well as a server. Currently trying to decide what to do with the old workhorse as I've gone down the home lab rabbit hole and have thrown everything in a rack but truth is I could still be using the Dell as my main workstation. Great machines considering the prices you can get them for used (though swapping the fans and/or replacing the CPU cooler might be needed).
Those extra fan connectors (probably among other things) seem to be populated on the larger version, the T7820. Just telling from a picture search for T5820 & T7820...
Thanks for your information. That's true, they are for the 2-CPU versions. I forgot to mention in the video, as I notice, the rear chasis seems to be compatible with additional dual 92mm fans. That's why I think that the missing connector is a kind of barrier for additional fans with full PWM control.
Fantastic overview. I am about to buy one myself. Thanks for creating this.
Es una gran maquina y aunque es de hace 8 - 10 años sigue siendo actual. Buen video
Absolutely love these Dell precision workstations. I was lucky enough to pick up three 7820s that had the dual-CPU trays paired with two pairs of Xeon Silver 4110 and a pair of Xeon gold (Can't remember the skew) as well as 96GB of ram each and Quadro P2000s. Picked each system up for only $50 since the business was upgrading and planned to scrap them, the only downside was not letting me keep the SSD's but I can understand why.
Man youre lucky! Crazy how many companies are willing to just scrap these machines that are like gold to people like us.
@@a1m598 Considering I could get around $6K on the low end for just the used parts, I'd say they literally are gold XD
Wow!
That CD drive is actually really nice for people who have a collection of old games.
Like me, but they usually don't like Windows 11.
@@OV3RDRIVE24 Yeah, Sometimes you have to patch them or use a virtual machine. Or sometimes they don't even work
This got into my recommended feed. Good job scoring it and gaining a new subscriber!
Thanks for the salvage coverage very complete. mb
Nice build! I've worked on the Precision T5820, T7820 and T7920 workstations in the past. Would be fun to see you check out a multi-CPU 7820 or 7920!
Funny how the UA-cam algorithm works. I am currently watching this video on one of these machines that I managed to get from work for free! Mine has a i9-10908XE, 64 gb of ram and, a Radeon Pro W5700. Love this computer to death!
This CPU supports Core-i9 or Core-i7?
Actually I have been great fan of T5600 series, but at that time, I bought a High End Laptop, But love is still their, Actually I am thinking of buying one 5820 and 7820 are options, actually I need it for High end Graphic Designing and Occasional Gaming.
@@itz.waleey definitely i9 for me. Mine was used for architecture.
@TenForceFalls Does 5820 supports other than ECC RAM? Cause it's not easily available.
16:19 for the t5810 you can drill out the rivets that hold that "gpu holder" on the side cover and remove it completely.
That's a solid PC! Great cleanup!
i donno why, but i love just looking to old workstations
your video pleased me
thank you
I picked up one of these with an i9 9th Gen in it, just makes win 11 support. Fortunately mine came with the original dell x4 nvme pci expansion card.
Nice video! I'm a fan of Dell refurbs myself. Probably because I was a Dell warranty repair tech years and years ago. Although I'm very happy with my Optiplex 7010 I wouldn't mind getting a Precision.
Very good Dora, good builds expect to last about 10~15 years...depends what are used for...😊
What one has to do to modify and shape a pre-assembled desktop PC.
For my part, I am very satisfied to leave my HP TG01 with all the possible modifications.
You have a PC of excellence, I congratulate you.
I love my old Precision, the hardware is so well built. Unfortunately I don’t have a good use for it but I can’t get rid of it either.
The quad channel memory access easily makes up for 2666MHz memory, always a bonus with Xeon CPUs.
the lga2066 cpu list is really small.
would wait for the next Xeons - bronze, silver, gold, platinum
I got a 5810 but this looks super modular and nice!!!
Domo arigato. I like your taste in music. And in hardware. I will buy this instead of T7810.
9:30 over the years i noticed the only real purpose the pci latches seem to have is to make it harder to remove the gpu. the latch model printed on the motherboard is made of flexible plastic and you don't even need to touch it if you need to remove the gpu. just pull harder and it comes off anyways. as i said, these latches are there only to be a problem. latches that are made similar to the tabs used in ram slots are the worst because you have to hold them with a screwdriver so it doesn't lock itself again while removing the gpu. unironically i consider the missing gpu latches to be an upgrade.
Thanks for your opinion. After reading your comment, now I think the same, it seems to be ok without them. At the time I did that clip, I forgot that this PC tends to work with a closed side cover. The side cover already provides a kind of support/pressure to make the GPU firm.
Got the 5820 with w-2133, 48gb ram and SSD(os) + HDD (Game store) and a RX6750xt. For a total cos of 150fps on high on any game.
I have an older HP workstation which is a bit older. They're perfectly usable for work and light gaming. I'm turning mine into a database server.
I was delighted to come across your video and know that I can upgrade on my own my T5820 that I bought with a small P2000 and replace it with a RTX 4070 using those 8 pin connectors.
One doubt, my CPU is a XEON W2145 Do you know if it can be upgraded to the refresh version W2245. Dell does not say anything, but as they are of the same architecture I would assume that yes, but officially there is no news from DELL.
I guess I'm staying away from the workstation. Lenovo P520 or HP Z4 G4 seems a better choice for having dual M.2 and space for more drives by converting 2x5.25"
i got a Dell Precision T7910 about 2 weeks ago from my local freegeek. i upgraded the CPU from a Xeon E5-2620v3 to a E5-2650v4 for $15 and its a night and day diffence now. i went from 40-60FPS in sea of thieves to 70-200FPS i have a 3070 inside it. im going to be adding other E5-2650v4 to it becuz its so cheap.
Try a pair of E5-2637 or 2643 V4 !
I'd love to try a dual-cpu rig someday too!
Nice! I just got a T5810 to replace my T3610, and this video makes me jealous. Mainly the dual-8 pin for GPU power (having 2x6 or 1x8 really limits my GPU options), but all the other advances like all of the front-panel USB being 3.0, the much better PCIe cooling, all of the rear USB being 3.0, four drive bays instead of 2 and all of them hot-swappable, the much easier to access CPU/RAM shroud (though I also paid $100 for the base 5810... with no CPU or RAM). I have to admit though that case intrusion thing seems maddening, having it both shut off the PC and have no way to disable it while it blares an alarm in your ears. I had the cover off half the time while I was testing/getting up my 5810 and that would have driven me crazy. But it definitely has a lot of upgrades I wished mine had. Oh, and that ridiculously overpriced M.2 adapter instead of just plain having M.2 ports on the motherboard is asinine, glad that you can just use a M.2 to PCIe adapter card.
This is a (nearly) exact workstation of the same date and serviable period of my still current unit and has been my most reliable CAD workhorse ever. My next system will always be a DELL standard build becasue of this. You pay a little more at first but overall always works out cheaper.
Seu vídeo foi extremamente satisfatório, adorei assistir todo conteúdo que por sua vez ficou muito bem detalhado. Agora superou a minha vontade de comprar um CPU deste mesmo modelo. Abraços 🇧🇷
Estou feliz que tenha ajudado!
I just picked up a t7820 for $350 and I don't know how i could possibly need more computer. I do video editing with 4k 120 and I don't see the need to go any farther.
I just wish I knew more about these... Or I would buy one.. I'm not certain about everything so I am not sure if I should
I just setup one of these for my boss with 2 RTX 3060's. Oh my goodness was it quiet. Thinking of getting one as my new workstation.
Sorry for slow response. Yes, it's great for multi-gpu setup. In my situation, CPU is more demand, thus the the noise is high at heavy load. If you have a similar situation, checkout another video of mine. I managed to reduce the fan noise significantly without sacrifying the performance.
I got mine 7820 with dual Xenon for 600 (pls extra year warranty)
I had to buy the vroc key to get the raid working on the m.2 with the card... arriving today!
my HP z600 served me well for 10 years (same off form a lease) but due to tpm I cannot use it for win11... waist!
Congrat! Once day I'd like to try every features from these workstation.
@@icemanleo TPM check of Windows 11 can be software-bypassed easily. The only consideration (for me) to upgrade may be the power cost-efficiency of the old machines.
Hey! I have the exact same GPU as you. Its a really good one, I like the looks of it.
Nice one & its windows 11 compatible if i remember right. Must admit im really happy with my current refurbed t5810 for a bit of casual 1080p gaming so the t5820 is a fairly good guess for a the next step up in 2025 when support for win10 ends.
Thanks for your comment. That's true, the Windows 11 is being officially supported for this 2019 T5820. I also tried the T5810 recently (I have a video about it). For my gaming demand it's fine, but for work demand, it's a little too outdate meachine. That's why i was looking for the T5820.
I'd expect you'd be able to bypass the TPM check, giving it updates until 2031 at least.
Beautiful machine
Sadly we dont have these types of machines in in our country turkey 🇹🇷 😢 Neverthless, i love dell machines
Currently using an HP G5 mini workstation with a 10th Gen. i7 and a QUADRO P620. Little Beast.
I love those workstations from HP too. Hope to try them one day!
hey, great video. i have a question, what is the power consumption under full load?
Thanks for your question. I haven't measured at wall and I hope to do it soon. But I here is my estimation basing on software measuring and power rate for each components.
CPU+GPU: By using MSI Afterburner to measure, the CPU takes upto 160w (a little higher than manufacturer stated), the GPU takes upto 200w (factory clocks). You can see it at 15:56.
RAM sticks: I assume 4*3W=12W at most
Storages: I assume 10W for 1 HDD + 1 NVMe drive
Motherboard: I assume it takes 50W at full load
Fans: base on the power rate lable, each can comsumes upto 10W at full load, but they never reach full speed at Auto fan scheme, so I assume 4 fans take 5W*4=20W
PSU: it's 80 Plus Gold standard, so I assume the power lost is 10%
The estimated result at full load (measured at wall plug) could be: (160+200+20+12+10+50)*100/90=502W
8:55 the fans can be replaced but are they 5pin as T5810? in which case other fans will run always at 100%? or did they switch to 4 pin?
the case as it self is solid..replace the CPU cooler with a real one and get ridd of the 90mm fans, kinda curoius what chipset is on that weird board
According to the EVGA website, the card used in this video has a height of 139.3 mm, that's probably a good metric for others to keep handy when shopping for GPUs.
Nice work, good video. I just picked up a T5820, can you go over the Samsung 980 NVMe PCIe M.2 1TB & PCIe adapter you purchased? Trying to figure out what to buy and load windows 10 on it.
Thanks for your comment. Here is what i purchased:
The M.2 adapter: www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/gp/product/B07FN3YZ8P/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title
The M.2 drive: www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Samsung-PCIe-Internal-MZ-V8V1T0B-EC/dp/B08XY3QQBK/ref=sr_1_5
Is that bottom expansion slot PCIX? It looks too long to be standard PCI. (Or maybe it's just been a while since I've seen one)
Thank you for your question. If you mean the white one, it's the PCI connector, a kind of legacy parallel interface, not PCIe. Other than that, all the black are standard PCIe connector.
Honestly, thank to this video, I'm looking on eBay RIGHT NOW.
I'm glad that it helped!
If you are in the US, Dell Refurbished has a half price coupon for the 5820's they show at the top of their workstation page (it's been there since May I think) - they must have hundreds and hundreds coming off lease - might be a good idea to get one with an SSD so you don't need to add the pricey flex bay.
This is an excellent and powerful machine. It will be a nice upgrade from my HP Z440
Cool video 👍
Suddenly it would be texas or arizona on gpu chips in the late 2020s or 2030s. Good build by the way.
So Great!
actually I think the whole point of the pcie slots is that they are supposed to be open ended but someone correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks for your comment. The slots could be open-ended (as I experienced with some Dell SFF model) if their physical size is less than x16 (like x4 x8) so that the x16 cards can be installed. For those in this machine, they don’t need to be because their physical size is x16.
@@thinhdora Duh. Ya, silly me. :)
servers and workstations are just build "better". the 1 thing i would love them sseing - using standard formats more often...
I was thinking about getting this to upgrade from my T3610 that shit the bed. $250 on craigslist for a barebones machine.
all good, but don't use userbenchmark for comparisons
I just bought a 5820 and its in route to me right now. I actually picked up a rx6800 for really cheap this weekend. I am worried that it won't fit in the case though. The 6800 is 13.4 inches long. Is there any way you could give me a meaurement so I can figure out if it would fit?
Hello, i have the same computer but i dont have the GPU auxiliary connectors.
Thanks for your comment. I had the same situation on my old T5810 because it was shipped with a low-profile GPU which doesn't requires external power. So I end up buying a new third-party pair of cable from Amazon.
Don't vacuum electronics as static can build up and kill them.
Honestly this seems like an ideal budget setup
It seems really good. Is it a better gaming system then a i5-9400F and GTX 1660 system?
Thanks for your comment. Compare to your given component, this machine should perform much better. But the Xeon W-2155 CPU may be too redundant for gaming and it would cost.
How’s gpu cooling? Getting same temp on mine, but fans run at 3k. Mine 5810 by the way, was thinking to replace front fans with silent ones and increase speed like you did :)
Thanks for your comment. Now I temporarily stay far from it so I cannot provide the exact RPM count. I will provide more information later. Generally, the EVGA RTX 2080 I used in this video run silently enough to make me forget about RPM measurment. By the way, what the GPU model are you using?
Can you check if it supports PCIE X16 bifurcation in the BIOS settings?
Wow 950 watt psu that impressive for a used prebuilt pc from dell, they usually always underpowered like 250/300 watt max 500 watt if it's a gaming machine
It's not just a regular prebuilt, it's a workstation, they always got beefy psu's.
@Erikcleric so basically it would be a better option to get a used workstation to make a cheap gaming PC than go out and buy a new pre-built PC
the 2nd set of fans (rear exhaust) is only populated when in dual CPU config. Yes, would be nice to leave the headers on the board for additional cooling when in single CPU config. But can purchase a dual CPU chassis/mobo and remove one CPU. 2nd set of fans here: ua-cam.com/video/SzePdQcMV2w/v-deo.htmlsi=GfxoZUBPatEqPtir&t=146
Great video
Now... time for some serious modding! Just cut some windows in that side panel!
Nice box for s home NAS 😃
Nice!
Crying in my corner with my baby blue RX 590.
can upgrade to m.2 nvme in flexbay?
Yes. But it could be much more costier than using PCIe adapters.
I'm getting kinda late to this video, but the build and also video is wonderful! At the moment I'm rocking a custom gaming full rgb pc, damn I mis using a server as my main right there is just something about workstations that it so wonderful.
Man this looks so cool... This would something I would love to get.. it's just so damn cool.
Can you just put a GPU in
yes and no there are different psu versions there are als 435w psu for his systems ones you put a power hungry gpu in it it wil not work you must keep in mind to get the one with 950w psu these are also included with the pci cables
also is not every precision xeon there is also a version with the intel core i7 and i9 10th gen
xeon w-2100
xeon w-2200
core i.-10gen
psu 435w
psu 950w
so hope this explain
@@pieterpost8515your reply is a mess. Broken English i barely understand.
Makes it sound like 435W is unusable.
You can use a whole lot of cards on 435w PSU, GTX 1650 , 1660, 3050 and the incredibly low power 4060. And that's just Nvidia cards.
From midrange to almost "high end".
Sure 900W PSU is naturally even better and will support the real beefy cards.
@@Erikcleric sorry for my english i try to do it beter not in this system this system used alloth of power by default i have a xeon w-2195 18 core 768GB ram and i have the beast of the graphic cards the best there is right on this moment rtx a8000 i have power problems because i used to mutch power on this system i can't do al the upgrades it wil not work
front panel FAN is 12cm
I just got one of these with th X series CPU and now the damn thing won't turn on
This was definitely a good deal
Not sure how much you paid for this unit US $$, but I hope you got a good deal!
Thanks for your comment. I purchased it for 65,000 jpy ~ 500 usd (in 2022/12) without HDD and GPU.
@@thinhdora for a kind of hobby, I look in dumpsters and curbside stuff for electronics - PCs, laptops, Chromebooks, gaming systems, tablets, & other electronics! Thank you Domo arigato (3 X Nippon style bows) 🤓
Hi, what software are you using for rendering?
ESD protection? I guess it's safe but you did almost all wrong. Great Dell system, however!
Thanks for your comment. I think ESD occurs even when there's no power, so I guess that machenism could be for preventing any short circuit or protecting users from injury risks (like electric shock). It's good to have. Just a little annoying when we want to physically debug any components.
@@thinhdora Yep, I agree.
Been wanting to see how this cpu performs for a while
these things used go for like 600 which is a steal
Thanks for your opinion. It's a steal if it could last for like 4 more years :D.
Nice video man i almost enjoyed all of it, just watched muted REALLY BUT REALLY HATE THAT TYPE OF MUSIC 😅
Thanks for your comment. I'm glad that you can still enjoy without audio!
I love workstations
which one is better between T5810 and T5820 if they has same CUP cores( different CPU) ?
Newer CPU generations are usually better because they tends to have higher IPC, result in more efficient with the same core count and clock. You can search for the Passmark scores, that's the easy way to compare.
thanks