Why Captain Marvel Was Such a Bad Film
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I still can’t accept that Fury lost his eye to a stupid cat.
Should rename him Nick Furry.
It wasn’t a cat. It was an alien.
@@williammorgan7769 That doesn't make it any less stupid or incongruent with established canon.
Yeah that’s probably the most disrespectful thing they could have ever done. To any character.
This was one of the things that pissed me off the most. "The Winter Soldier" made the loss of his eye into something epic, but it wasn't when we got here.
Being a minority isn't a character trait.
A woman is not a minority
@@Cyril29a But we're wrongly perceived as a minority.
@@Cyril29a beat me to it.
@@Cyril29a
My liberal coworkers (and several others outside of work) have explained to me that a minority is "any demographic being subjugated by those in power". They even claim that all their friends and families agree with them on that definition.
Not that I believe women are being subjugated, but were they all B.S.ing me?
@@Cyril29a
Being a woman isn't a character trait either.
AntMan was a superhero movie about a single dad trying to manage his life.
I actually disagree with him saying “Ant-Man” isn’t great. It’s actually a really solid film. It’s fun, exciting, funny, and has a heartfelt story behind. A dad trying to change himself to be a better man and father to his daughter. It’s a story to empower single dads in my eyes. It shows that not only is he trying to be better to his daughter, but also his ex-wife and her new husband. It’s a good film with a good message. I actually really enjoy “Ant-Man”. The sequel was ok, but not as good as the first.
@@IvanKinkle the sequel made antman really dumb to make wasp look better. Not saying he’s a total genius but every single time wasp had to save him
It also had a giant Thomas the Tank Engine so
@@ndrose And Evangeline Lily, for some reason.
@@IvanKinkle It's actually really refreshing that the step-parent isn't an asshole. Yeah, he's hostile towards Scott at first but only because he's an ex-criminal. He becomes one of Scott's closest mates after Scott saves Cassie from Yellowjacket.
You forgot the scene where she literally breaks a guys hand and steals from him for daring to come on to her. Not assault her, not touch her nor threaten her but to slightly leer at her and ask her to smile, a normal human male about 100x times weaker than her, and the movie wants us all to cheer for her doing this.
Crimes on XY are Cool!
XD
Technically, I think that was a deleted scene, so technically non-canon.
Still, the Don deserved better.
@macca au it wasn't a deleted scene. I saw it when I watched it.
Deleted scene, but that didn't stop Marvel's social media from broadcasting it all over the internet as some kind of "bonus" short film to promote the movie and boast about what a great character/person they want us to think she is.
@@lugbzurg8987 True.
Being a woman shouldn't be the focus of a film.
It’s not, it’s being a she-male that’s the focus.
Cpt. Marvel was barely even human.
@@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom I mean XJ-9 is a better female character than Captain Plank, and Jenny is a robot.
*a pg film.
Perfectly fine for X rated fare.
DC did better with Wonder Woman without being condescending or trying to force a "men are bad" agenda. Diana was totally relatable. When she went through the No Man's Land, it wasn't to show that if a woman can do it I can do it, she did it because there was a town on the other side suffering.
what really bothered me the most about this film, is that Carol found out that under the guise of being brainwashed she committed genocide, she (not her fault) was complicit in the destruction of another species and her response to this
No crying, no screaming at the universe. not even getting drunk and feeling guilty, or remorse at what happened to her
Her expression...never changes
I made a similar comment before reading this. Exactly! She has the emotional reactions of a plank of wood. No quirks, nothing. It's very hard to relate to a plank of wood.
in the animated movies the scrull are the villian
@@newguy954 I hated that reveal
@@RKNancy you mean the scrulls being the innocent refugees?
Cuz she a strang waman
My take on the film is that it was made by an indie director who cut their teeth on a human interest, issues-based drama and then got handed the keys to this corner of the Marvel universe with no actual interest or passion for it.
Agreed. Marvel takes film, gives them to indie directors who listen as they’ll say and if the sub-franchise takes off, they’ll give the direction to an established director to keep the success going.
What I find most irritating is something that I've never heard anyone address: her powers are undefined. Why does an exploding experimental engine powered by an Infinity Stone gave her superpowers and not burn her to a crisp? What actually are her powers? What's the source? I get that people just brush it off because it's a superhero movie, but superpowers need some kind of anchor that limits what the character can and cannot do.
The exploding engine probably just broke her internal limiter like in one punch man. So she could show her inherent unlimited female power.
She runs on the power of stunning and brave
She doesn't have to explain anything to anyone.
Just accept it and shut up.
Paragraph 2, lines 5-6 of the Feminazi Womanifesto
They could've made her powers unstable... therefore she has to use them in a calculated manner or she will begin burning her own skin or over exhausting and getting a stroke. The could've had her exert her powers at first and suffer a stroke due to exhaustion after a few minutes... making her realize that her powers need to be used in timed limited amounts or she will have another stroke due to overexertion.
I figured they'd actually use her back story and reveal she was half kree due to a relationship her mother had with the actual Captain Mar-Vell and she returned to her husband after her lover was ordered back offworld with no word to her.
Make the mother an inhuman and have the initial accident result in the use of that gh formula from Agents of SHIELD with Carol the original guinea pig and she recovers gaining Ms Marvel level powers.
Thus we now have a reason why her blowing up an experimental engine super charges her abilities that if similarly empowered turns her into Binary instead of what they did which was ridiculous.
Why didn't they make use of what they had instead of that crap?
The "Mary Sue" and the _amnesic Sue_ are two of the most obnoxious and common tropes in "strong female" heroes nowadays. Both have in common that the character does not have to overcome adversity, does not learn about their own shortcomings and does not improve their ethics or morality.
Sylvie from Loki is more of a copycat Sue, and she’s just over glorified and better than Loki who simps for her, over and over again.
My biggest peeve with the movie is the suppressing emotions story line. Like, she is forced to suppress her emotions and that limits her power.
But when she breaks the power limiter, she is still an emotionless board as she was before. Ironically - the villain, Jude Law's character, shows more human emotions
when he demands a fair duel - that Captain Marysuell dishonorably denies him.
Is this the Captain Marvel effect, the Rey effect, or the Mulan effect? 🤔🤷🏾♂️
Sylvie from Loki is more of a Copycat Sue, one of the archetypes of a Mary Sue.
she apparently taught herself magic and she can use her powers even with a neck collar that limits her powers, and she’s glorified so much that Loki simps for her, over and over.
Because Larson can´t act at all. She always "plays" herself.
@@LegacyComics100 Having Hiddleston's Loki endlessly simp for Sylvie was disgusting. Character assassination in the first degree.
I am the only person who doesn't have a problem with Captain Marvel. I don't need emotional drama for me to enjoy a movie. I am so excited to see the kree and the supreme intelligence plus the skrulls.
Notice how these Mary Sue characters need constant validation from other characters telling them how great they are.
That's one of the hallmarks of a Mary Sue. Like Poe telling Rey that she's the best fighter in the Resistance. Just because of course she is.
Kylo had to train, all his life to be as good as he was with the force and a lightsaber, Rey picks it up, has one vision and knows how to use both. Sorry Bri, I'm a 40 year old white dude.
Remember Luke & Yoda? But Rey was special.
At least, you're sorry for it. ; )
lol Rey is the ultimate mary freakin sue
40 year old black guy feels the same way. Guess it ain't your fault. 😍
You shouldn't be the one apologizing for that but the script writers should be!
1.The protagonist is dull and bossy. As are most of the other characters.
2. The story drags on and nothing much happens for a lot of it.
3. It obviously has themes of radical feminism and misandry.
4. The action is anticlimactic.
5. Nick fury lost his eye to a cat scratch!
At least it was an orange tabby!😺
Apparently he also stopped being a white WWII combat veteran?
The Skrulls were more interesting than Carol. They had purpose, humour, etc.
6.) The protagonist’s outfit is very uninteresting.
7.) Carol takes Mar-Vell’s mantle.
8.) Carol Danvers isn’t Ms.Marvel/Warbird.
This is HOW bad Captain Marvel looks, for a so-called strong woman character: I recently discovered that back in the freakin 1950s (TWENTY YEARS before even Leia or Ripley) that there was a cowgirl heroine on television: Dale Evans, wife of the HIGHLY popular cowboy Roy Rogers. She was INCREDIBLE from episodes I've seen: Courageous, Highly talented with the pistol (to the point she'd literally shoot guns out of villains hands), and incredibly tough on crooks. However, put her around children, and she'd shed all the toughness, go full maternal instinct and sweet talk to them. Kids of the era absolutely loved her, little girls dressed up like her, and many boys said they secretly wished she was their aunt. Plus, the plots were rather thrilling at times. If they could NAIL a strong heroine in THAT era, Marvel and Hollywood have no excuse for this modern trash.
In this movie, Danvers is a sociopath.
I always hated that she had no conflict about killing the people she had worked with for years. No second thoughts, or trying to talk her former comrades to their senses.
If I found out I was on the wrong side of a situation, I would be conflicted fighting the people I had fought alongside for years. Also, it would take a bit more than a conversation for the skrulls to convince me they are the good guys after trying to take my life.
SJWs give their protagonist traits the SJWs have.
Forgot the part about being more or less brainwashed by the Kree and fighting a war that turned out to be a lie huh
@@nosfonader8792 In real life, people sign up to the military based on lies, and we don't see them turning their guns on their fellow soldiers. Also, in the movie, how do we know her fellow soldiers are not under the same control?
@@iamthewizardwhoknocks2845 It's hard for them to write heroic characters, because they have no morals. The writers are all morally bankrupt. In their world, might makes right. There is no truth but power.
Yes she didn't give a shit about killing Skrulls and others for years. Winter Soldier, Black Widow and others at least feel bad and try to make amends.
I think this film is good example of how to make a movie without stakes. When I saw her beat Jude Law at the beginning of the movie, I knew that it didn’t matter what happened at the end. It was jut like Force of Awaken. I have made this argument before when you make a movie with an agenda in mind, then you can’t risk your hero being less than perfect. I have argued that there are several films that can have a feminist agenda and still tell story with stakes. One movie that comes to mind is First Wives Club. Each main character has a different arc when all three are mission of revenge. It is girl power movie and they stick it to most of men. The difference is that not all men are bad and one of the men that did wrong gets some redemption.
I tried watch videos of UA-camrs who praised the movie to see why they like it. Most of their points is it great to see a woman take center stage and doesn’t need saving. It has a cat in the movie (which I find weird point). The special effects are amazing. There are other points but they are surface level. The interesting thing these UA-camrs will say about any that has criticism is that they are just misogynist basement dwellers. I have left comments going over all several problems with the movie from no stakes, no character arc, continuity errors with the other movies, predictable ending and others. They tried to call me a hater of women but I will bring other movies like Kill Bill, GI Jane, Wonder Woman, 2000 version of Charlie’s Angels, Tomb Raider, Aliens and Terminator.
Good call with the First Wives Club! That is a criminally underappreciated movie and so much better than the stuff they try to shove down our throats nowadays.
There are plenty examples of the 'agenda' in modern cinema. Really it just boils down to 'the female protagonist has to be almost perfect'. This just leaves the film with a bland heroine who the audience will never get invested in because there's nothing to hook them in.
Don't all feminists that never marry because "they don't need a man" become cat ladies?
SO yea having a cat in a movie is positive to that demographic.
This is what drives me nuts about movies today. So much bad writing is being excused just because a movie has "progressive" ideologies in it, and any legit criticism is dismissed through the use of what amounts to name calling (calling people who have actual complaints things like racist or misogynist, or just haters etc). Meanwhile, movies with actual good writing, including better written movies with female protags such as Alita: Battle Angel, get massively lambasted.
Dont feel bad, i got shit on for calling out the force awakens when you have kylo: a trained sith gets beat by a girl who lived in a desert all her life collecting skrap. Thats like a trained marine or soldier getting their ass handed to them by a bum who weighs 90 Ibs soaking wet lol. I got called sexist, phobe etc. Now look, a huge majority know star wars is dead and feminism killed it. Same as this shit movie captain marvel
When the people who make the movies are chosen for their ideology instead of their creative talent, the end result sucks
"Last time I trusted someone, I lost an eye."
Nick trusted the alien cat not to scratch his face when he shook it?
Yea who ever came up with that idea, needs to be run out of town
I remember when this film released and all the paid for youtubers ALL were spewing the same bs:
"the cat is Awesome in this movie"
"the cat stole the show"
"the cat, the cat, the cat"
When I finished watching the movie, I said:
"Fuck that cat."
@@rantradio To play devil's advocate, the cat is the most interesting thing in the movie.
Although I can't imagine why it would swallow a glowy cube.
I love how, in hindsight, everyone, including Larson, was implying that Danvers would singlehandedly defeat Thanos. That was why her movie was released before Endgame.
In Endgame, she watches Thor chop Thanos's head off, is all "I gotta go look after other planets, BYEEE!!" and gets punched out of the final battle after rendering the female heroes redundant.
Not even kidding people were laughing when she got blasted out of the movie by thanos
One of my favorite parts...never thought I being cheering for the villain.
I think they planned for her to be the one to kill Thanos, but fans figured it out, so they changed it and cut her out of Endgame because of the backlash.
I think that was Marvel's original plan that she be the one to curb-stomp Thanos but someone (Russo probably) finally convinced Marvel to wake up and say, "Holy Fuck. We can't do this. We'll destroy everything we've worked on for the last ten years and what we hope to accomplish in the following ten. The fans will abandon our movies." Had Danvers been there from the beginning they would be able to use her to fight Thanos but to basically shoe-horn her in right before Endgame and than sideline the original Avengers who've been around for ten plus years? No way the fans would go for that.
I really hope that at some point Wanda has to fight Danvers and just utterly obliterates her.
I was first in line at the theater with a decent optimism for this movie. Damn was I ever disappointed.
One of my biggest irritations was the fact that Carol was NEVER in danger. Not once. Even handcuffed, she was an unstoppable force! At the end of the movie, she was completely unstoppable after taking the chip off. Yes, Superman gets this crap all the time BUT he has a moral danger to consider, and at no time has he ever been invincible to a good beatdown.
I could go on for a long while with my hate for this movie but aside from Carol herself, my true loathing for this movie comes from the complete de-masculinization of Nick Fury. The man was a decorated war hero before going to SHIELD and then he freakin' talks like a baby to a cat BEHIND ENEMY LINES!!!!
Superman is invincible but you (usually) don’t read his stories because of that. You read it because of his humanity.
That’s why he’s the best hero. It’s what he represents. Hope.
I wouldn't use the term "demasculinization", but movie did strip away what made Fury interesting.
I mostly liked Wanda Vision.
My biggest issue was the no consequences or apology for what had happened. No explaining to them what happened.
"In my grief I sorta went temporarily insane, and because of my powers you all were caught in with it, and I'm sorry for harming you all."
At the VERY LEAST she should have done that.
I was sorely disappointed with Loki...
Loki was just bad.
•Loki gets treated like a self defeating punching bag.
•The TVA are complete tyrants of time.
•Sylvie is a Copycat Sue.
•The infinity stones in the drawer.
•Freewill doesn’t exist, it’s all predetermined.
•He who remains comes across as a joke.
•The MCU’s terrible comedic tone.
Yeah I was disappointed with Loki to but apparently it’s getting a second season so it’s not gonna go away anytime soon.
Ironically, Maria's daughter, Monica, is the second Captain Marvel in the comics. This movie makes the bizarre decision to hype up Carol as this major glass-ceiling breaking character while making the black woman who had the title of Captain Marvel long before her her surrogate daughter.
Surprised you didn't catch the subtle hints Carol and Maria were closet lesbians raising Monica. Yet another instance of Disney "playing to the LGBT+ crowd" in the most under the table way possible so they can still appease their communist overlords in China.
If you ask me, for diversity's sake, I think that Monica should replace Carol as Captain Marvel.
If they made monica the main captain marvel then they'd just turn her into modern Nubia, which is make her incredibly racist
@@dannypalin9583 they'd make her racist
Then they also made Captain Marvel a white savior that Maria, Monica, Fury, and green Mexicans all worship.
Or they put that in there to bait the LGBT, pleasing both them and China. Interesting that they went with the “single black mother” stereotype either way.
Hints? Her "friend" somehow acquired all her personal effects and photos after her disappearance - Not exactly subtle
Everything that is wrong is other peoples fault, everything that is good comes from your inner awesomeness. How can anybody believe such drivel?
Yesterday I saw the new James Bond! I thought it was unrealistic, a Brit filling up his car!
I liked the character better when she was merely a part of Rogue's personality.
As far as most of us (i.e., long-time Marvel fans) are concerned, Ms. Marvel and Captain Marvel are two completely different characters.
Thats because Rogue actually had a personality!
I liked the character better when I didn't know she existed at all.
So nonexistent 😂😂😂
Carol Danvers actually had a pretty decent personality in her Ms Marvel days before she was 'wokefied' by man-hating feminists.
So basically, if the writers were smart, they could've made Carol Danvers more like Force Captain Adora where she fights for the enemy, has blood on her hands, and must atone for her past, but instead, we get the mantra that Carol is already amazing, and has none NOTHING wrong.
you don't understand they are ALL PERFECT ANGELS ( or so they'd want us to believe until you scratch the surface and then you get a glimpse of what's underneath )
It actually reminds me of how they handled Winter Soldier, who was kept under control by HYDRA and thawed out every so often to assassinate people. He was brainwashed and now a respected member of society, but to him, it doesn't change the fact that he murdered people.
When people say "It wasn't her fault, she was indoctrinated by the Kree!" I will use Bucky Barnes as an example of this done properly.
@Marc Baker - The best iteration of that story I've ever seen is Rurouni Kenshin. He spent an entire war as the top assassin, and then spends the rest of his life trying to make up for what he'd done. Even a hint of that in Captain Marvel would have made it an infinitely better movie.
Black Widow: "I've got red in my ledger"
Captain Marvel: "meh"
For me its the entire "men are BAD" trope. She got picked on? Oh NO. In the military everyone gets picked on. If they didn't like you, they wouldn't mess with you. They just wouldn't speak to you at all. That, and the whole surrounding female characters with males that are complete morons, only to artificially prop up the "females are better!" argument. It's just ghostbusters all over again. And I expect it to get worse.
Glad I wasn't the only one annoyed with the “military men are mean” scenes.
It’s the freakin’ military, cupcake! The military isn’t for the weak willed, whiney, thin-skinned! It’s meant to break down then build up people so they can tackle difficult situations without losing their cool.
Even the Air Force (for all the jokes about being the easiest branch, even according to members and my ex) has standards so people can actually do their job. If Carol couldn’t even pass the AF physical test and handle some teasing from the men (who can be very harsh even to their friends) then she definitely has no business being in the military.
Sorry for the rant, it was just a giant pet peeve when I originally saw it.
And can you believe women pick on men?
@@sacha8uk yes
Most people don't know what the military is actually like. Hate to say it but it's just just common knowledge that only servicemembers and friends and family know what real military is like.
That said, the people who think that teasing is heinous should look up what hazing is... cause that totally doesn't happen... not at all... its impossible....
Or that the hazing done by women are more gentle or something cause girls can't abuse their power and authority or anything like that at all.... OH NOES
Source: marine. We totally don't get hazed or anything and hazing by females is more enjoyable.
I’ve gone through more than this woman and I don’t even have a cool superpower. (I have blue eyes which is a mutation that helps you adjust to light better)
_"The entire performance seemed phoned in."_
The problem is, it wasn't. This is exactly how Danvers was meant to be portrayed by the production. If it was the cause of some disaffected actress, that would have been forgivable.
Exactly, Larson did an excellent job of portraying the boring, uncharismatic, insufferable, misandrist, obnoxious character from the comics. Perfect casting.
Why? Who wants to watch a lifeless character? Vision the computer emotes more. All the female leads in Guardians much more interesting.
she is professional AIR FORCE Officer and and fighter pilot, processual bearing and strong, thier usually pretty dam boring or so i am told, some guys are hot shots but not all of them. he is pushing too much politics and needs to bac k off a bit,. again hire a more likeable person not just pretty. and it would have worked.
*more like texted in and synthetic voice algorithms used...with sock puppets*
Did anyone notice the Secret agent was more motherly than the woman, that is kind of the point too, motherly motherfucker that is!!!!
These reviews are far more interesting than the movies themselves.
They're my guilty pleasure
She's a woman, she's perfect the way she is, she doesn't need to do something like grow, that's us peasant men's job.
On a related note, Sentry has one of the best redemption stories, he needs a proper movie, but I doubt he'll get one he deserves in this mess we have today.
They can't give him a movie. They can't have someone to rival the powers of Captain wahmen.
Sentry as a man in the M-she-U lol i wouldnt be surprised if they introduced sentry as non binary lmaooo 😂😂😂
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Yep. Not just rival, Sentry surpasses her and even Thor in power levels. Million exploding suns will man-handle her like a rag doll. He already did in the comics.
These movies are giving women the message that they are perfect and don't need to train or put any effort into life, and if they don't immediately succeed it is because of all the sexist men holding them back and not because they aren't trying hard enough.
And this is why Ripley is a gopd character.
The only goes back, to LV-426 to face her fears, she has regrets for not being there for her daughter.
The worst part, for me, is right at the ending, when Jude Law drops his weapons and challenges her to a fight, in order to show she's more than just her powers. In this moment, I sighed in relief thinking "Good! There is ACTUALLY a journey for this character. Because she kept losing to him in the first act, now she has to prove she has grown, and can best him, even without her powers"
And then... She just blasts him away...
This is like... The antithesis of character growth. She learned nothing, she developed nothing, she changed nothing (except her costume). She remembered some stuf, and now, instead of just "being awesome", she's "super duper awesome" (kinda like Mulan). I just threw my hands in the air and thought "Ok... This movie sucked at EVERY level"
Thank you! I had friends say “she didn’t owe him that fight. And wasn’t it awesome that she just blasted him?!”
Heck no. For one, he was weaponless and never had innate powers like Carol, so it was an unfair fight that only a villain would take advantage of. Two, it’s classic for characters who start off with friendly spars in entertainment to spar as enemies. Three, it was Carol’s chance to prove she wasn’t just a punching monkey with only that one trick. And Four, it just made her look like an inpatient, OP child.
Gosh that scene sealed the deal for why I hate CM.
One thing that I can't get over with: She already beat the main villain at the begging of the movie, with easy, WITHOUT HER FULL POWERS.
Nuff said.
Beginning *
Dave, I read comics for decades when I was a younger boy then man. The Skrulls wers always evil, because they feel superior. They were villains of Fantastic Four, Spiderman, Avengers, and more. They've tried to enslave earth time and time again with the Super Skrull. Why would these new writers loose all of those good stories? The Kree were not much better, but they saw how powerful earths heroes were and stayed mostly away. Do you think they did it just because most of them had never read a comic before? Thoughts?
Seems the mission of these writer's is to destroy the all heroes, and make the bad guys the new good guys. Villans don't understand the hero's journey.
The sad part is if they had made the real Captain Marvel story instead of Ms Marvel. and had his struggles with Thanos and cancel it would have been a blockbuster.
I don't think disney cares about the comics. At this point they are just making movies with political agenda in mind. If someone tries to critize their movies they will be call a misogynist or racist. They are just making movies for normies and to please the critics who judge movies by its dumb politics. They will literally sacrify a good story by getting overly woke writers and directors (Who dont give a shit about comics) to make movies exactly how they are told. In the end, the dumb critics will ignore the fact that characters and story were terrible and call the movie progressive and the people who dont like it, misogynistic basement dwellers.
@@greeb666 could you imagine actually introducing Rick Jones officially in the MCU, sharing the Nega Bands with MarVell? What a plot element it could be of done well. Not to mention MarVell inevitably succumbing to cancer.
If there was one thing I truly DESPISED about this flick, it's the treatment of the Skrulls, who were (formerly) one of the best, and most thematically distressing, "baddie races" in comics.
Now, they're just victims.
Not enough is said about the deleted Duke scene, where Carol needlessly tortures him & takes his motorcycle. Obviously, it didn't sit well with the test audience & was removed, but the tone remains.
Blasphemy! He wasn't called Duke!
He was: The Don!
@@azh698 Great Scott! I typed too fast! Thank you for reminding me & I'll keep the mistake in as a lesson.
Grand Theft auto:Verse city.
@@azh698 "gET iT? Because "Donald Drumpf"? The "Don"?"
*No one claps at test screening*
"a few mediocre outings" - phase 4 is complete complete garbage that destroys the MCU and performs truly awesome amounts of character assassinations. it was nice to see Wanda become a super villian though, I did enjoy that bit at least :)
@Jorj yup. she was a straight-up horror in that show
@@Num1n0us She was sad though, so its ok. She's the real victim, not the town full of children locked in a living nightmare alone in their dark homes while their parents were puppeted around playing house.
@@brz757 She's basically Dr Braun from fallout 3 but your supposed to feel bad for her
The MCU ended with Endgame, and nobody has been able to convince me otherwise.
@@project9701 end game was not good at all... it really ended with Infinity War
At this point we're all just waiting for Rogue to put her in a coma and Monica to take her place
My little fantasy is a post-credit scene where Capt. Marvel stops a female hijacker.
Let's be honest, if not far Talos, Captain Marvel would be a "never watch and forget it ever happened" movie.
It added virtually nothing except for that leftists think assault and theft is justified simply if a man asks a woman to smile.
I like captain marvel
It's a good watch
@@tonydarks4895 you didn't watch this video huh
@@rockinHurley777
I did , why
ua-cam.com/video/dFzwGg46waM/v-deo.html
That scene is deleted. Also, not all leftists like this movie.
They've basically gotten rid of the original ms Marvel and Captain mar-vell to give his this abomination of a character that embodies everything that is wrong with modern Marvel and movies as a whole.
Its funny how the media rallied and said about how empowering it was to
have a powerful female character as the main character but seem to have forgotten about the dozens of main female characters.
Its not empowering its pathetic.
A great man once said, when something goes woke it turns into Canto Bight. Something like that. I can't remember the exact quote. Very profound.
Funny
Even endgame was relatively bad when compared to infinity war due to wokeness.
Endgame had problems without even being "political" ....it was full of character mishandling, bad jokes, and logistical confusion. Otherwise I might have truly enjoyed it.
They massacred my boys Hulk and Thor.
Yes and the "women's march" scene was especially cringe. It kinda worked in Infinity War but was just eyeroll-inducing in End game.
@@remo687 Yeah and the women's march scene in endgame has no purpose to exist when it's been said that captain marvel is the most powerful and perfect hero. Why would she need the assistance of the other heroes, especially the other female characters (minus black widow since she was killed off). Seriously nobody needed DA MESSAGE to be pushed in what was meant to be the end of the MCU's story telling.
I wouldn't even call it a meh film since Larson has the acting ability AND sex appeal of a wood plank
Oh she has the sex appeal, check out her appearance on Jimmy Kimmel.
Question is, why is she afraid to use in her movies.
@@charmingpeasant9834 Because she’s an action hero, not a seductress?
It was a shitty movie still, but I don’t see why people would expect an action hero to have a large amount of sex appeal. If they do, cool, but it’s not a requirement.
When’s the last time you saw an action star look like the guy who serves you Slurpees or asks if you want fries with that? Brie definitely got a set of plump sex appeal, that’s for sure. And there’s a reason Gal Gadot never appears in a movie covered head to toe wearing a burqa.
@@willieearles3151 how many action movies have you seen? Hell iron man and cap America alone has 4 underwear scenes
That's an insult to planks of wood damn it!!
Also Brie Larson doesn't have an arse, it's as flat as her chest and she has had plastic surgery done to her nose. Look at her in early film roles and you'll see her face is very different.
What is wrong with Captain Marvel?
“My first thought would be… a lot” - Con Air
Brie Larsen is a plank of wood both on and off screen. Her success in Hollywood wouldn't have been possible in an earlier time when talent actually mattered.
Nice avatar, that's from the movie The Day After. 😆
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Good eye!
What was painfully stupid is that the Skrulls have always been villains in the books. Why change this?
IMO, it's basically communist cinema. If Carol was leaving the Kree (America) to join with China (Skrulls) the script is perfect.
Okay. On the whole SHIELD issue, where people were made to think that it was just an accidental acronym that no one was actually using until Stark and Pepper casually suggested they find a shorter name... that was actually addressed in the pilot of Agents of SHIELD.
Cobie Smulders lists the whole thing out and asks Ward "What does all that means to you?" And his answer (which _should_ be obvious) was "It means that somebody _really_ wanted those letters to spell out the word 'shield'." Because: DUH! Of course it wasn't an accidental acronym. What are the fucking odds? Coulson was just being his trademark super-low-key cheeky self up until that last scene when Pepper realizes "Oh, yeah. Stupid me. That highly intentional acronym was right there in my face all along."
-"Well, look what we did there, Peggy Carter! In coming up with a name for our new organization, we just so happened to use all the right words in just the right order to form the acronym SHIELD. It's almost like somebody's not-so-secretly obsessed with some sort of person strongly associated with a shield."
-"No shit."
Why list that when you can just say "it's Kang"?
because the gov makes up bad acronyms all the time. Navy Reserve Order Writing System(NROWS) (pronounced as narrows) or Unit Training Assembly Processing System (UTAPS) and don't forget the favorite: Management Internal Control Toolset (MICT)
*ahem* Accept, according to Joss Whedon... Agents of SHIELD... is NOT CANON and therefore... worthless.
@@atomicamerican7 Well, it doesn't really matter. It was never an attempt to establish _new_ canon. It was just an instance of a character acknowledging what was already obvious out loud.
@@zardox78 Accept it was. The whole movie pretty much subverts the entirety of the Marvel universe and says, "haha, all of this was because of Captain Marvel."
I shouted YES in the cinema when Thanos smacked her out of Endgame. So satisfying. Good riddance.
My speculation is it was Kevin F’s attempt to get into Bris Larson’s pants; that’s just my guess as the dude seemed personally obsessed getting her into the MCU. Neither the character nor the actress seemed like a creative addition to the IP and more of a stand in for bashing the “Patriachy”.
It's a business thing. Feminism was/is hot in the market and Larson seemed to be spearheading that based on her dumbass speech. Meanwhile, his prized Iron Man and Cap are leaving. He needed a new character fast but left out all the hardwork.
I keep forgetting that Gemma Chan was in this movie as a backup Kree warrior on Danvers' squad. Now she'll have a lead role in Eternals.
Dave: Captain Marvel crashed on Earth into a Blockbuster Video
Me: "straight to VHS" is more than movie deserves
I never agreed that Thor really needed to atone for past sins or to be humbled. He was noble and kind. He lost his power at one time because he fell in love with a moral woman, and angered his father. Thor's and his home Valhalla were deconstructed and rubbed into the dirt by SJW writers. He and his world deserved better than what was passed off in Ragnarok.
-Shes too powerfull
-Everything is explained to her
-She changed sides to fast
-The emotion controll plotline was dropped
-The eye thing was stupid
I don't really count this movie, since it was clearly shoed in due to activism pressure. Captain Marvel was nowhere near a popular (or known) character enough to get her own movie, nor was she tied in any way to the events in the MCU. But, at the time, Marvel was pressured to make a female led super hero movie (especially after Wonder Woman)
However, the obvious choice, Black Widow (which I think WAS the original intent), didn't pleased the activist for a couple reasons. First of all, feminists didn't like the fact that, in the second Avengers' movie, she considers her inability of having a child something wrong, that was taken from her. But second, and I think most importantly... Black Widow is NOT the all powerful hero the activists wanted. They didn't just want a female super hero, they wanted a female super hero that was BETTER and MORE POWERFUL than her male counterparts
The result... Were a producing team, director and, most of all, actress, who didn't understand the character, and shoed in a movie with the sole purpose of driving in a political message. Seriously, remove this movie from the MCU and you miss NOTHING. And Captain Marvel is not, by any means, a stupid character, but this movie was made for the wrong reasons, and with the wrong team behind it, making it a dull, boring, and unimaginative experience
Exactly 💯
I wish they could realize that to write a strong, mature, wise human being, man or woman, you have to cover how they got strong. Even a perfect person would have to learn. Even a brilliant person gets expertise by learning. NO one is perfect at birth. No one is without sin, mistakes, miscalculations etc.
You don't understand they are ALL PERFECT ANGELS ( or so they'd want us to believe until you scratch the surface and then you get a glimpse of what's underneath )
A couple of things that stood out to me while watching it in the theater:
1 - When the Skrulls are being seen as the bad guys, they ALWAYS take the form of white people, particularly white men (and one seeming middle-eastern male type), but as soon as we are introduced to the fact that the Skrulls are the victims, they NEVER take on the appearance of a white person again. They appear in their normal form, or as blue Kree.
2 - Yon Rog is the bad guy, a white male character (the Supreme Intelligence, who should be the greater bad guy in the film, is a white woman). Something else that stands out, he bleeds BLUE BLOOD. If that wasn't a call out about "privilege" I'm not sure what is.
I disagree. I would say the beginning of the decline in quality of the MCU started with SM Homecoming. The MCU took Marvel's most famous hero a prime example of virtue and responsibility and turned him into an irresponsible teenager who gets everything handed to him in a silver plater by the all mighty Tony Stark. From that point we should have known things were about to get very bad.
I agree absolutely
So true! 😢
Yup. Can't get into the MCU Spider-Man films at all. Sam Raimi's first two Spider-Man films are the only ones worth a damn.
Compared to the Raimi-verse, Parker gets off with a slap on the wrist in the MCU.
That’s also describes my problems with Ultimate Spider-Man the animated show, expect Spider-Man keeps breaking the 4th wall, which is completely out of character for him and it just keeps stopping the plot for pointless explanation.
Batman: Brave and the Bold is a perfect example of show don’t tell and has better subtlety than Ultimate Spider-Man.
I loved your computing forever channel. Why did it get banned? Was it because of too many covid debunked videos? are you afraid that this channel might be next?
anyway, i like to binge watch you on here from Time to time
Because UA-cam is FULL OF SHIT
Yes because he spoke the truth. I think he had been on youtube radar for some time given that pre 2020 he was quite consent and was calling out far left BS (rightfully so).
But with the Scamdemic of 2020 and how he exposed the truth was the final nail in the coffin for computing forever. (he even said that after the hate speech rules of 2015 he thought of every year after as a gift).
I think he is trying to make his 2nd channel "The Dave Cullen Show" what Computing Forever was pre 2020. And I like that, there is still a great place for channels to call out the BS in Hollywood.
Yup. It was part of a bigger purge.
Judging from his completely unhinged theories and spread of false information about the virus it wouldn't surprise me. He clearly went down a rabbit hole. Doing your own research doesnt mean that you specifically look for information that only supports your opinion.
It doesnt help that his Videos attract a lot of nutjobs either, people that actually think COVID doesn't exist...
@@berunto8186 Given that I'm seeing some weirdly racist usernames here, you're not the only one who's noticed the kind of ppl he attracts. A channel named Think Before You Sleep has the same issue.
I just separate the UA-camr from the audience & enjoy the content, bc they themselves probably wouldn't side with the crazy folk. I think it's the result of every group having its extremists 🤷🏾♀️.
@12:46 Maria Rambeau, being a single mum in the MCU, was a retcon from the comics. (She and her husband weren't separated and were a traditional nuclear family with their daughter Monica)
I watched it on a flight and instead would have preferred to listen to a crying baby for the duration of the flight.
What i wanted to see:
1. Captain Marvel simply starting as Ms. Marvel
2. The original male Captain Marvel from the comics mentoring and teaching Carol about her powers
3. Ms. Marvel becoming stronger just like Thor as time passes
4. A normal origin story set in the modern era instead of the fucking 95s that manages to tell a beautiful story about a strong relatable charismatic female character that has qualities similar to Ellen Ripley and other great female characters
5. A TV show similar to Doctor Who about Carol travelling to other planets, meeting new friends and saving worlds
What we got instead: *a more soulless garbage rushed SJW version of the character that is extremely unrelatable and has no personality, her origin story is horrible and poorly written, and with her simple presence in Endgame she managed to ruin few moments and characters such as Hulk not having a rematch with Thanos.*
Fuck you Kevin Feige.
But back in the late 90's early 00's i said "hear soon movies are going to be all special effects and no story" I really hate that I was right.
Still never saw it or the first MCU Spider-Man film. Nothing of value was lost or missed going into Infinity War or Endgame without them.
McGuire is the only Spiderman.
I get the feeling that a LOT of writers have "I hate my dad" complexes
Very accurate review. Now... From a layman, such as me, I had a slew of problems with stuff like;
When she was talking with the Supreme Intelligence and Nirvana's Come As You Are is playing. She left Earth in '89, I think. That song came out in the beginning of the 90's. She may not have even known who Nirvana was, depending on when she was abducted in '89.
Why were the Kree shooting at the experimental plane with laser canons and then got scared when Carol was threatening to shoot it with a pistol?
You mentioned the SHIELD discrepancy. Thanks for that.
The movie was oooooozing with feminism as was evident with what she did to the guy who was hitting on her. Him being a self-important ass was apparently an open invitation to crush his hand and steal his jacket, helmet and motorcycle. I guess, it would be pretty cool if a girl was being obnoxiously flirty with me so I could break her hand and steal her car, right?
The choice to play "I'm Just a Girl" during her fight scene made me cringe. Don't get me wrong, it fit the scene, but it was way too obvious.
As for Fury's eye wound.... I can't, even....
The de-aging tech is pretty incredible these days, but I had to laugh when 'young' Nick Fury lumbers into a run behind Carol, moving like the 70 year old man Sam Jackson really is at the time the movie was made:)
When Thor showed up on earth in infinity war, it was a crowd cheering moment after seeing what he went through to regain his powers to take on thanos.
Nailed it in this video sir
The good thing about modern movies is that I've been saving a lot of money not seeing them. They didn't want me as a customer anyway as movies aren't made for my kind.
I completely agree with the verdict here. One scene, in particular, stood out in my mind. The moment when Carol remembers all the things that happened to her and realized she always "got back up" was meant to be a very powerful moment. Unfortunately, it basically rehashed an exact scene from the movie earlier adding barely anything to it. To me it seemed like they were just saying, once again, look how perfect Captain Marven is. If they had done more than the same montage twice in the same movie they would have solved every issue the film had in my eyes. Imagine, in place of the first montage, they told a number of stories in a row. Each giving context to the series of moments shown in that first montage instead. We would get to see events leading up to Carol "falling." Each one building on the person we would grow to know over the course of the film. Then in the final conflict, we see the montage of her falling over and over again, only for her to realize she always got back up. BAM! The moment would have been amazing, emotional, and fulfilling. To me, how they cut it in the film felt like it was nothing more than feminist fan service. Because of that, they lost the message.
A few years back, I wrote a sci-fi book with a female lead. I chose to treat her exactly like my male characters--she's loaded with flaws, she's uncertain in the beginning, she loses as many fights as she wins, and she needs help from her friends ... a lot. By the end of the book, she's grown as a person, she's a better adventurer and a better friend. She takes personal responsibility for the people affected by her adventures and manages to come out victorious in the end.
And the feminists HATE her. They wanted her story to be the standard victim's story, to be downtrodden and victimized by society. They wanted her to be a man-killing war machine, taking revenge for all the slights sent her way and skating through all trials and tribulations with nary a hair out of place.
Whatever, that sounds like a clichéd Hollywood trope, a nothing-burger character Disney churns out enmasse. I'll stick with what I wrote and stand by it, everytime.
Sounds like a good story.
What's the book? Given the crowd here it would likely be a good idea to put that in so people can maybe seek it out.
@@jimthar17 The League of Elder: Stenibelle. I'm terrible at self promotion.
Boy These movies look so much better compared to the shit marvel has now.
One of the truest things I saw said about the film is that nothing happens. The characters are exactly the same at the start of the movie as they are at the end. It's a literal waste of time to watch it.
In regards to your idea of giving Carol a dark past and have her realize she willingly murdered innocents was reminds me of The Bourne Identity and Bourne Supremacy. Those films did that kind of story much, much better. Especially Supremacy.
I think what would have been interesting if is Carol Danvers started out as a Mary Sue, but her character development is the realization that she's not so awesome or even likeable after all. Maybe the Kree implanted her with false memories that made her seem like she is and always was the most awesome Kree out there. Everyone loves and praises her, and she can do no wrong. Then she ends up on Earth where her real memories get triggered and begin conflicting with her false memories, and her real memories are of that of a woman who wasn't so awesome after all. Maybe she was a screw-up. Maybe she was a bit of a coward, unable to overcome some aspects of her cowardice, thus making it easy for her to accept the false memories and become this super special awesome person in order to hide from who she really was. Or something else. And whatever her flaw, it ended up being what led to her current situation.
These conflicting memories then lead to self-doubt and the dawning realization that she done did a lot of wrong. As a result, she feels unworthy of her powers and her powers are dampened, leaving her vulnerable. To get her powers back, she must face her real memories and the truth, and finally decide the kind of person she's going to be - someone who runs and hides from her problems, or someone who faces them, owns up to her mistakes, and tries to do better.
Thus she goes from little miss perfect to well-rounded and relatable human being.
Profoundly insightful as always. Actually reminds me of another point about the currently political atmosphere: if you’re a feminist ally, you can do no wrong, even if you’re doing horrible things: which has led to the idiolization of political figures, and the tribalism of defending everything they do, even down to horrible totalitarian measures being instituted. On the other hand, if you’re not a feminist / ally, everything you do is wrong, even when you’re doing the right rhing, eg Trump.
The thing about allies with fems, is once they've outlived their usefulness or have slighted the group, they will throw you to the wolves.
No remorse, just label your once ally as the worst thing imaginable and let the the crazies do the rest.
@@elliottgaal9774 aka useful idiots. They're usually the first to be purged when they install their overlords into power
"Everything you're owed" *shudders at the thought.......God's mercy is better.
This film was where I first realized that the SJW menace was real. After watching it, and being disgusted, one of my former friends was gushing about it. I stated what I thought, and was suddenly attacked from all sides. After some brief rage filled posts were deleted by me, I attempted to respond rationally. However, I was told to ...
1) Check my white male priviledge (even though I am half Hispanic)
2) This film wasn't "Made for me"
3) There is no possible way that I can understand the plight of women, or minorities, or other sexual orientations, because I am not those things
4) Just shut up and keep silent.
Well, all of those old friends, some for over 20 years, have been told to sod off. I know better now.
To me it started falling apart with Thor:Ragnarök. I know a lot of people like it but the humour didn't work for me. My autistic son even wanted to leave the cinema because he couldn't understand what he was seeing. She is not a very a good actress to start with...
Finally, thank you. It had a great trailer and I got sucked in but it really was the harbinger of how bad things were going to become in the MCU.
My resolution of "I will never watch this movie " just got more powerful . No wait ... it was actually always very powerful , just hold back by PATRIARCHY .
The worst part of the movie was the waste of Jude Law's acting talent in the MCU as a D-List antagonist. He should've been the star of one of these; he would've made a superb Silver Surfer.
You know, as dull and "by the numbers" as the film was, if it had a better actress in the lead role I would probably be fine with it. I like the Ant Man films when others seem to hate them and I wonder if it is just the great leads they have in them. So yeah, the film could be enjoyable enough with a better actress, but as you say Brie is one of those women who thinks merely raising a condescending eyebrow is enough to show she is a badass.
She is such a delightful character and person....Meh is very fair.
Having wind would have added to watching it.
The absolute worst of the mcu. Yet, you're right this phase is determined to do worse. Captain Marvel was a great character in print turn of the century. Then, Marvel Publishing turned her in to a one dimensional shallow waste. Marvel Studios doubled down on this useless shallowness. Add bad writing and humor that always misses the mark and calling this movie forgettable is being kind.
Yes even age of ultron and first hulk are better than this. Only good of this movie is visual effects
I remember her in King Kong and she couldn't act of a paper bag. She was completely unlikable and a talentless. Yet she was chosen for Captain Marvel. Goes to show ideology trumps talent.
One way they could fix Captain is to perhaps make her into a border-line villain antagonist then becoming full villain where a certain character is forced to confront her and put her down, I hope Rogue joins the MCU, she was for a time a very popular character and pretty much became one of the most recognisable faces of the X-men during the 90s, they must do the Rogue-Captain Marvel thing where Rogue gets Captain Marvel's powers, (a key trait missing from the Fox X-Men movies), it could be the chance to do Rogue right and perhaps making her one of the best and most beloved MCU girls... if they do this and don't ruin her character... Imagine a possible 'Avengers Vs The X-Men' crossover movie where, at some point, probably towards the film's climax there's a sort of recreation of the iconic Captain Marvel & Rogue fight but with a twist, reversal, of the hero/villain roles in this case with Rogue (Anna Paquin) battling an out of control & evil Captain Marvel (Brie Larson) to save everyone on both sides, thus gaining her powers & defeating her like in the comics..?
I agree with you 100%, and usually do on your videos. I just have one nitpick because it is a pet peeve of mine: "blood is thicker than water," meaning that hereditary family bonds are most important, is not the correct phrasing. The original, complete quote is "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb." I imagine this is relating to soldiers that fight together and people who form bonds in extreme circumstances, but I just wanted to point that out. Keep up the truthful and insightful commentary!
Two scenes I HATED in this movie, one when she murders the cardboard cutout thinking it's a real person, meaning she tried to murder the first person she encountered, and the second scene is where she proves her powers by blowing up some poor guy's jukebox, but then later proving her powers to her friend by heating up a kettle.
Also why the hell are the Skrulls the good guys?!
If Disney truly cared about diversity they would have made Monica Rambeau be the first Captain Marvel
The hero’s lesson - Maybe I need to shut up and learn something.
The feminist lesson - Shut up and listen to me.
It had to be too many things at once. An origin story, a prequel, an explanation for a post-credit scene, a lead-in to endgame, AND the MCU's first female-led superhero film. It was a disaster waiting to happen.
I would have much preferred though Charlize Theron as Carol Danvers. I find she looks just exactly like the character in the comics and is a much better actress.
Ant Man & The Wasp was clearly the turning point of the MCU.
Look at Superman. He had to learn how to use his abilities as he grew up. He's even said he feels he live in a world of paper. Always worried he might hurt someone or destroy something if he was always careful.
this trash only made money because it was in between two better movies, plus i bet disney was paying for seats, because i asked people went they were tons of empty theaters, sound shady to me
And because dumbies keep watching these stupid movies that they make for some reason.
Mar-Vell finally makes it into live action, and in a major studio movie, and THIS is what they do with him? (Sigh)
I started noticing the cracks around the first Spider-Man movie. That was the first Marvel movie I didn’t see in theaters. Also interesting that one of the main complaints of the Holland Spider boy is that he lacks the maturity of Spider-Man.
I honestly wonder if Captain Marvel would've been a better movie if they'd cast someone other than Brie Larson. Also, the girl power theme was overkill.
Thank God Black Widow had great areas that she fought with herself about during her MCU run.
Captain Marvel is basically the post-RTD Doctor Who seasons, where companions had to remind the Doctor how wonderful he was.
The script would still suck, so the movie would be sh*t. It´s a good thing they hired Cheese Larson. If they hired some likable and talented actress they could ruin her career. There´s nothing to ruin in Larson´s case.
I've finally forgotten about that piece of garbage. Why do you gotta bring that up?
Carol Danvers begins the story as an arrogant narcissist and then learns she really is just better than everyone around her and they all love her.
What struggle can Carol possibly undergo in the sequel if she's not only this powerful, but she's also overcome her own limits?
I've only occasionally heard of the "You'd be prettier if you smiled more" idea before the people promoting this movie told me it was an epidemic. And honestly? I agree with the criticism. Nobody likes a frowner.
On the other hand, all politics and such aside, most people tend to look pretty stupid when they smile. Seriously, look through most family albums, the majority of people look fairly dumb when grinning. Frowns aren't great either, but looking unhappy might be better than looking stupid if you're going to be documented...