To be fair in war innocent people also die. Often a lot of them. Covert operations are most likely to prefer over having started all the machines of war. The only question is do we want freedom (and thus can be robbed or killed by strangers) and responsibility or slavery and safety (as long as you do not step out of line)?
vincentgraymore the point is that it’s impossible to avoid tragedy and war. Only to be prepared for when that tragedy happens. You can’t slap a bandaid on a dead body expecting it to come back to life... but you can prepare for when those tragedies happen to make sure we have the highest probability of having the minimum amount of tragedy happening... Seriously to try to assume that we can prevent a war “thousands dying” is a better terms of preventing tragedy than allowing countless millions dying in constant carnage of war. But here is the problem most people don’t understand. Diplomacy and room to talk between the two fighting sides is way too late to attempt when one side already attacked... war is complex and won’t always be as simple as you might think. Stepping on peoples rights to prevent a tragedy is the same as arresting a kid for committing murder in the future so that kid can’t be given a life to live in public anymore just because one of the millions of possibilities that he will commit murder when he’s 35 years olds? Well that’s not fair or due process of what freedom really is...
vincentgraymore also being robbed is always a possibility regardless of being free or not. But freedom to defend yourself and your property is the right and responsibility you have when it comes to being free.
I believe in people's right to self determinate their own futures. Freedom is extremely chaotic and messy. But I would rather take it and live the my life my way than enforced "safety". People die every day that is a fact. But this doesn't mean life isn't worth living. You just cannot let fear cripple you.
That's why Captain America is my favorite superhero (A genuine sense of goodness, humility and selflessness), and why Captain Marvel is a nasty, narcissistic, self- righteous rhymes- with- witch with the potential to become a full- fledged supervillain.
@ didn't communism also slaughter millions and didn't facism do that to In the hands of Hitler who slaughtered millions of Jews because they were most likely to rise up against him
'Illegal alien attacks innocent black teen, war veteran saves the day' is literally Carol Danvers attacking Miles Morales, and Captain America saving him
Carol is not an illegal alien. She was born in the US, and is a high ranking officer of the US air force, the accident that made her an alien hybrid happened way after in her life. So the correct wording would be "Retired US military attacks innocent black teen, war veteran saves the day". Another could be "NASA's former chief of security attacks innocent black teen, war veteran saves the day". And there are probably many other options. She used to have a rich background but who cares, right? Better make her a one dimensional character that makes stupid decisions. I wish they hadn't butchered her character. She used to be one of my favorites.
DUDE, the punisher extinguished the entire human race, I can see you don't read comics and just watch the quarterings videos, heck the punisher killed two innocent kids because they were trying to stand up to their dad
Dr Drew Then might as well try to end a war before it starts, so less innocent people die, no ? Or are you supposed to end the war JUST after it stars, so you limit the casualties, or something ? I don't know it just sounds dumb.
Why yes. Captain Marvel is a hero! With the Wisdom of Solomon Strength of Hercules Stamina of Atlas Power of Zeus Courage of Achilles Speed of Mercury And a pure heart. Billy Batson is definitely a hero.
I don’t know why everyone hates Captain Marvel so much, he’s powerful he has Wisdom of Solomon, Strength of Hercules, Stamina of Atlas.......... Oh shit wrong franchise
You just successfully used a fictional universe that everyone is fascinated by to bring to light very real issues in our society that most people seem to be oblivious of. Kudos to you, sir.
@@Meta.noia_art not really since she is usually attacked as a result of her own words that (while sometimes exaggerated) aren't misinterpreted He perfectly described the SJW movement
Yup and shows how she feminist lefts are this way they don't agree with free spech arresting people for offensive speech blameing Hite stright males for rape they haven't committed ect and much more yea and the funny part is brie larsons personality litterally matches these issues too..... LuL bat shit crazy sjw feminist lefts athoritarians
If you look at what happened during his time (Pearl Harbor), along with his probably brief examination of history, his comments definitely make sense. And I think he's right to an extent.
@@jarl428 CM director claims CM is the strongest ( she's not really though) wandavision shows what a real powerhouse can do...I.e. warp reality around her
@@blkbrdmntrvimes6438 yeah. Wanda is overpowered. In comics, she once eradicated all the mutants by just saying the words "No more mutants". The only mutants left were those who were saved in a pocket universe.
Well you just made an argument for why the person to decide should be Dr. Strange NOT Captain Marvel but of course he could also guide it other outcomes.
@@jasonasdecker actually, no. Strange is the smartest because of his ability. But in terms of raw power, Carol, as much as it pains me to say because fuck Carol, is the strongest. She can brute force situations he can't.
@@James.Stark.Ben.Edition Even with his modern need Doctor Strange has enough magical might to tell Galactus to go away and the cosmic being would actually listen to him. Carol wouldn't even register to the guy (even aborsbing his energy us pointless as he by nature is her abilities taken to a new level) At his peak Strange was the only hero to briefly the the infinity gauntlet in a dual only being unable to hold that power was the only reason for his defeat.
@Prinsstar SsTp My bigger answer isn't much bigger, but my idea is that she has so much power that makes her overpowered that she believes that she is better than everyone and can do whatever she wants while believing it is "good" without any repercussions, even if what she is believing is factually not really good at all, like in civil war 2 where she is gonna get rid of miles before he does anything
@@apexspyder8994 sometimes. But not most times. If the writers aren't absolute morons they can handle her right by changing her. But most of the time she's handled poorly
@Masemeno Nasaku Pff. Just that? In SJW mindset, being called hot and having your ass groped is far worse than being backstabbed by your close friends, drugged and sent into exile in outer space, and be met with aggression when you return ending up with the loss of your new family.
I don’t really like the one from the movie. Cocky and holier than thou. It’s annoying how she thought that what she was doing was more important than saving half the universe and ends up failing at the end and getting tony stark killed I’m pasting this where I want it. I want it in a lot of places
In Civil War 1, the writers genuinely makes readers to choose sides, both Rogers and Stark have something that can justify their actions. But in Civil War 2?, Not so much, majority sides with Stark.
Tony in civil war was incredibly authoritarian in his decisions, I mean spider man himself says he regrets teaming up with tony and switches to cap's side. Tony in civil war was disgustingly close to being the bad guy, I'll give civil war props for its interesting set up and a better read than the sequel; but this along with it's sequel has the issue of one side showing more sanity than the other.
@@thesneakymemedealer5071 Well, he went through 14.000.605 futures using the Time stone and discovered that they had a 1 in 14.000.605 chance of winning.
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“I hope that Carol takes up the mantel of being the Avengers moral core, now that Steve is gone.” Captain Marvel: “You touched my newspaper. Give me your property or lose your hand.” Haha. Nah.
It's really poetic how Carol Danvers accuses Miles Morales of something he didn't do, then Captain America and the real Ms. Marvel have to vouch for him.
Local white, blue-eyed, tall, blonde woman with way too much power in her hand imprisons people for crimes they didn't commit. Opposition includes, among others: innocent black-boy who didn't actually do anything, poster-boy for America and interestingly enough Holocaust survivor Magneto. Holy shit this sounds like a WW2 story from my great grandfathers days. (German here btw)
Tbh I think Monica will have spectrum power which allows her to shoot different range of energy blasts(actually she has too many power this is just on of them lol.)
"Is Captain Marvel a hero?" No. I believe the entire point of her original arcs was to convey that, even in the hands of a _woman,_ absolute power corrupts absolutely and no one individual should be expected to burden themselves with unilateral moral decisions; that is almost a textbook example of corruption through proxy because the power granted by her station almost makes her a despot. In effect, Marvel decides who lives and dies based on her suspicions of potential and it isn't until Tony Stark confronts her with the armor-piercing question about her future-police philosophy: "What happens when _you_ become a threat to freedom? When _you're_ the most dangerous murderer in a room?" It's essentially the Aesop of, "What do you say to the unstoppable force to change its mind? When all power and authority is concentrated into a single entity, what can you do to change this without being destroyed? What do you say when your ally becomes a standalone WMD with political opinions? If she had decided that Thanos was right, Infinity War and Endgame would have been much more fucked up stories than they turned out. Gods above, that has never been more relevant than today.
Yep, their are only two wielders of the cosmic power that the title Captain Marvel comes with that didn’t get corrupted by it, the original Mar-vell, and his “daughter” Phyla-vell. Danvers is the fourth wielder of this power, and is going down the same route as Mar-vell’s son, who eventually went completely insane from all the power. Out of all the wielders of this power, Phyla-vell was far and away the best of them all.
@@ultravioletentertainment7332Read the Annihilation books instead. Phyla Vell does not really appear in any Captain Marvel comics I'm aware of and the whole series ending with The Thanos Imperative is one of the best stories from Marvel. I haven't read any of Original Captain Marvel and idk what stories his son is in. Also the best character to have Captain Marvels powers imo is Rogue from the X Men. She kinda stole them but whatever.
Personal opinion, but... I just couldn't really get attatched to Captain Marvel. She feels too overpowered. The characters of the MCU has a balance of flaws and strengths, and even if the characters are powerful, like Thor or Docter Strange, they show character development. Captain Marvel just feels like an OC I made when I was 11.
@@Mound_Maker She's also the most unreliable superhero ever. Placing the Captain Marvel film in the 90's automatically damages her reputation because she's been absent for everything that occurred in the Avengers films, the Guardians of the Galaxy films, and Thor: Ragnarok.
loudboy317 also the fact that the actress that plays her role (Brie Larson) acts like if she herself is captain marvel and is quite disliked by many, doesnt help
The main atractive of the Marvel heroes, in both comics and screen, is that they're flawed but fundamentally good people. Captain America's golden age moral compass is what makes him special. Carol hasn't that quality, and forcing it in her could be perjudicial to the character. If there's no new Steve Rogers after Chris Evans departures, the most qualified to be the conscience of the MCU would be Spiderman.
in my opinion the one that can replace captain america after his departure is black phanter. He has all the leader character should had. sorry bad english.
@@suhaimimohd8832 actually bp is the "semi-cap" on marvel... Since the reborn of captain marvel that went to hell... the logical idea should be Spiderman, who has the most carismatic and good compass of all the heroes (maybe with lots of inexpierence), but certainlly would be the perfect replace for cap... Dont forget cap has olmost 53/63 years (taking or leaving timely comics) and spidey only 30 (at the most) and nome of leading, only on crisis he made that role and did it great
3 Worlds: Kelly Sue Deconnic She is the reason why Carol Danvers is now what we don't like since she become the writer of Carol Danvers. She was a likeable and normal person, and a good heroine when she was Ms. Marvel, now she is just a Space Karen writing by SJW and modern feminist writers.
@@tylerjamesnazario1770 well, she had some unlikeness and awlfulness before. like joining stark side and supporting the registraction act. yeah, she thought that was the right thing to do, but she also thought that using the future visions/predictions was the right thing.
You missed the real kicker. In an issue of Ultimates, it is conclusively, undeniably proven that Ulysses' predictions are not always accurate. Carol Danvers is there for all of it. She sees first hand that his prediction was simply wrong. Despite this, she continues on course with just as much self-righteous certainty as ever. That story line really did a lot of damage to her character.
Her moral character was on the decline ever since House of M. House of M revealed her primary desire for being a hero wasn't anything altruistic, it was to make people admire her. She was doing the Ms Marvel thing for herself not for the benefit of the weak and innocent- so the warping of reality installed her as the single greatest hero ever of the new world, admired, respected, and loved by all. Mar-Vell would be rolling in his grave if he knew of the things she's done with his name...and if he came back to life again he'd instantly know...what with his Cosmic Awareness and whatnot.
@@gtf234 I don't think you understood the Post house of M character. It wasn't that she wanted to be admired or to be famous for fame's sake. It was that she felt she hadn't lived up to her potential and thus wanted to fit into the mold of a hero that is respected and admired by all because that's how she felt she could improve. To be able to make a difference. She turned down joining the avengers because she felt she hadn't done enough good and that she felt she hadn't earned it or deserved it. Underneath the selfish seeming plastic lay an altruistic goal, written a bit more complexly/subversively. The comic also reinforces that famous heroes are the ones that are seen as more competent. There's one time she outright admits that she isn't doing this for fame or popularity, but because she's felt she's wasting her potential to do good.
No I understand Carol used to think she was wasting her potential- that was back when she was still an alcoholic that could put Tony to shame. That part was always loud and clear and one of the reasons she was liked as Ms Marvel back then- she was very flawed and troubled. After House of M was a sobering up period of her trying to confront and make up for that side of herself- but it doesn't deny that's how she was. But that universe fed into what everyone desired most, and Carol placed herself at the top of everything. It's been well established that the Pysche-Magnitron gave Carol Mar-Vell's powers because she was envious of him and the machine responds to the desires of those exposed to it- that was way back in Ms Marvel issue 19 from the 70s.
@@gtf234 She wanted powers less because she was envious of him and more because of how powerless she felt when yon rogg had captured her hence wanted to stand with Mar-vell as an equal rather than a damsel in distress (as so many powerless female love interests tended to be at the time). She was also inspired to be a hero as established by Ms. Marvel 50; She tells Mar-vell she didn't want to be a copy of him back in Ms. Marvel 1977 19 and wanted to be her own woman, but the Psyche magnitron misread what she wanted (for better or worse according to her) as all wishing wells and rabbit feet tend to do. House of M putting her at the top of everything was just part of her being wasted potential. She felt with those powers she should've been right at the top just like Mar-vell was and anything less was wasting her powers. It's the "with great power comes great responsibility" taken to the extreme. "If you don't become the greatest and take the most responsibility with great power, you have failed and nothing less than the best is good enough". Hence her name being Captain Marvel in that reality. Being admired is just a side effect of that goal. Which is why I say, it simply is a subversion of shallow seeming goal. It's why she refused to join the avengers because she didn't feel like she deserved it enough. It's why she quite homeland security because she didn't feel she was doing enough good sitting behind a desk. At the end of Ms. Marvel 50, she had realized that trying to fit in with the archetype of a super popular hero wasn't what she wanted and it wasn't'really a goal, and she aimed to simply be the best version she can be instead of trying to be at the top of the superhero game.
People like Judge Dredd and The Punisher are always seem like an scary anti hero to many But to me they are a much Better Heroes not only that her but most so called Heroes imho.
@@jaysanj152 They are. They are efficient. They give bastards the taste of their own medicine. They don't sympathize with bad guys. They put them down for good. There is nothing more satisfying than evil getting karma in form of bullets.
There's another interesting moment that takes place during this storyline. After Captain Marvel has arrested numerous people indefinitely without evidence, and getten several Avengers maimed and/or killed, she was confronted by Magneto. Apparently, she had sent a surveillance drone after him, and he returned it to her (in multiple pieces). When he asked if her pet prophet had seen him in a vision, she dodged the question, labeled him a 'person of interest,' and then said "We're broadening our scope." What follows is taken word-for-word from the comic: Magneto: "Yes, this is how it starts. Next come the detention camps." Captain Marvel: "Right, I forgot. You're that guy online who compares everything to Hitler." Now, while I won't dispute Magneto being someone worth keeping an eye on, and I won't say it's the worst thing she could have said...but it's still pretty high up there on the list of 'Terrible Things to Say to an Actual Holocaust Survivor.'
@@jamesgrinsen1085 ...sorry, but for clarity sake, are you saying that about Magneto when you say 'If the shoe fits'?" Which is to say, you agree with Captain Marvel scoffing at him that he's just "the guy online who compares everything to Hitler"? In spite of her thought-crime initiative? And in spite of Magneto's status as a Holocaust survivor _and_ a mutant?
At least Homelander is aware he is a monster and is contantly trying to cover it up, Captain Marvel is so certain she is right, she could kill a 10yo boy and say "no need to thank me, I am a hero" to the parents next to the still burning corpse.
I understand but that is the point of her character. She’s pretentious and self centered brat with a fuck ton of power. That’s the point. She’s fighting for justice, HER JUSTICE. It would have nice if the mcu had gone this route and had fans realized as she continues to appear that “i don’t she’s the good guy”. That would have been an excellent route and genuine start for a bunch of conflicts. But instead they made her a hero
Gotta ask, why are they choosing one of the most hated comic "heroes" as the face of the next few phases, especially without removing the things she's hated for
@@darthsidious2952 yeah because obviously it’s the distribution that decide for what and for how much time there should be a character of their biggest franchise not the company that literally made both the original comic book material and the films.
Because of moronic people that have started to try and reform society and fix the issue around sexism. However,all it does is make society worse about it because some people are so insensitive and as I said,moronic,they can't see past themselves and the attention they are lacking.
Just like when he joined Team Iron Man in the first civil war and got his identity revealed and put mj and aunt may in danger Then joins Team Cap. Hes doing the same shit in this comic now.
@@twizzlerlemonpie3083 Peter of all people should know that revealing your identity puts everyone else at risk. Him revealing his identity for iron man was just WAYYY too out of character for him
Finally someone shows a light on this. She's not a hero at all, not even an anti-hero. Just a very delusional villain trapped in her own mindset of self righteousness. Very well done video explaining perfectly!
Have you read a comic book about her? I suggest a comic book about how she dies. It sounds weird, Ik, but I think a lot of people don’t understand how captain marvel in the movie is different to the comics. She is a very good hero. :)
@@idontknowletmesee7063 - killed bruce for something that didnt even happen - caused rhodey to die and she hulk to be injured - imprisoned a kid (almost) - is trapped in her own meaning of righteousness Yes very good hero
bengreen1012 Which makes it all the more painful to see that Chris Evans is a phenomenal actor. Him as Cap is someone to aspire to. Evans as himself is almost just as contemptible as Danvers.
christian crusader true you could look at it both ways that hydra cap was just acting so to not blow his cover and result in his death by miles Or that cap is still a good person just with wrong intent as due to red skull and whatever the girls name was who changed him
If I'm not mistaken (spoilers ahead) when the tesseract rewrote reality to make steve a Hydra member it remade this world's hydra into a somewhat good hydra with good ideals which is why Cap joined in the first place and is why Cap kills red skull later I might have misremembered things I haven't read it in a while
Isn't her race trying to exterminate an entire other race? I'm talking about the storyline, lol. I know it's funny how it mirrors real life but there are small differences... Very small.
@@thorgod0824 being slightly annoying and asking her to smile is not sexual assault. Abusing her powers, threatening physical harm, and stealing clothes and a motorcycle are crimes though.
@@AstralTaurus who does the Avengers kill?I mean except for the walking tin can AI and the guy who suicide bomber himself and would have died anyway and when a metal armed man was brainwashed(Ultron,crossbones,Bucky)
You idiots don’t know what your talking about if someone’s looking for security they are scared and that’s definitely a feminine trait. Men do it to, the wars we goto are out of fear, and because we think someone is gonna do something wrong that just means you have a weak will.
hmm, i wonder if they made her a villain, because she was omnipotent white fascist. that couldnt be depicted as a hero? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Danvers#2010s " Following the conclusion of "Civil War II", Danvers starred in The Mighty Captain Marvel, by writer Margaret Stohl and artist Ramon Rosanas, which sees Danvers become a household name. Stohl explained, "She will be one of the most popular heroes on the planet-but that's not something she is very comfortable with. And of course she's lost a lot of folks that she's loved so she has to cope with that, too. That being said, she still has a job to do as commander of the Alpha Flight. Her latest mission being recruiting and training new cadets. It'll also bring with it a mysterious danger that will threaten everything Carol has built."[77]
It pisses me off that people (even this video's narrator) keep calling Carol Danvers "Captain Marvel," SHE'S NOT CAPTAIN MARVEL, she's _MISS_ MARVEL. *_Captain_** Marvel* is a separate character, a MALE pink Kree (pink Kree are regular Kree but have the same skin tone as caucasian humans unlike their blue counterparts) alien called Mar'Vell.
@Snoi Med but the narrator was calling her Captain Marvel even though he was talking about Civil War, when she was still Ms. Marvel. Honestly, I don't care for any comics passed Dark Reign/Seige. That's when shit started to go woke, passing of mantles for woke points, etc. Marvel Comics has gone to shit, and The MCU is soon to follow. #getwokegobroke
Also I love how they tried to play her up as this strong female figure, who doesn’t need a man But she’s literally a female redesign of the original Captain Marvel.. that was a man AND before her it was a black woman
Fun fact: in the comics she had a crush on spider-man and venom, and when scorpion got the Symbiote he told spider-man and spidey asked her about it, after she was coy and completely embarrassed when training
With him, I mean she's not the only one who got embarrassed when liking spidey, I mean rogue tried to kiss him (it was because he was being nice to her, which I kinda don't mind because I once liked someone because they were nice to me) anyway there's a bunch it heros which had crushes on spidey, I mean kitty p, jean g, x-23, emma f and I'm pretty sure Medusa (marvel) had crushes on him and tried to either kiss him or show love to him, x-23 got scared and clawed his back when swinging, emma was being a yandere when she found out spider-mans real lifestyle/identity and made MJ hate him for some reason until jean came to let him know which led him to ask her to stop, spider-man kissed jean as saying thank you for saving his ass when they were fighting saber tooth which pissed off Cyclops and Wolverine, and I remember another inhuman said she remembered spidey because he was the guy she knew had a pretty nice bottom which Medusa had agreed on which embarrassed him, I think in the ultimate universe spidey and kitty dated until he realized he was still in love with Mary which lead to him kissing MJ around her and she tried to beat the shit out of him until Iceman saved his ass, dw kitty and x-23 both dated another guy, kitty dated star Lord and I think x-23 fucked/dated Angel
Oh please! Why do you think people read Marvel Comics? This has been going on since the 60's! Possibly even earlier! These videos are LITERALLY 60 years behind what comic book readers already know!
So, Carol is self righteous disrespectful and unlikable in the comics, much like Bree Larson irl. So did Marvel actually make an accurate and solid casting choice?
Please don't judge this character because of one storyline. The Civil War storyline always has a hero character take the wrong side on a matter. In the first one it was Iron Man and in the second it was her. There's always gonna be a hated storyline or arc that sees a good character make terrible terrible terrible decisions. Its happened time and time again. I love the character Batman, but many recent writers in charge of his stories today make him do things that I hate. Now many readers will find themselves seeing a difference in the old version of Batman compared to the modern day version of Batman. Blame the writers.
@@riripari2042 yeah but for some reason she is written like a fuckin psycho. Ever since civil war 1 she has gotten progressively worse. In civil war 1 she ripped a family apart. Then came back on her decision since she felt bad about it later (six months later). She fought her friends and fired them leaving alpha flight. Emotionally manipulated adolescent heroes to turning jersey into a police state. Then she fought her best friend on this (spider woman). She got told off by kamala parents not to long ago. I hadnt read anything new from her because my recent pools have all been x-men.
"The complete certainty of her righteousness, and the disregard for due process that comes with it" Sounds a lot like the segment of society that she was meant to represent in the films.
Captain america says: we dont exchange lives, everyone has an oportunity of redemption and becoming their own heroes Captain marvel says: *splish splash your opinion is strash*
That's hypocritical, don't you think?(We don't trade lives). When vision clearly said there's no time still he was bent on putting millions of wakanda's people life on danger just for one stone/robot/half robot.
@@Fahad2k1 and if that robot was captured one of the most powerful evil beings of the universe, Thanos will complete the infinite gauntlet and half the population of every being will be erased. A little stupid your comment ngl.
@@davidcardozo290 I didn't said that just give the stone to Thanos. Don't put your words on my mouth. Sometimes you superhero fans take it to seriously. Vision said that he felt Thanos was coming. There was no time. So he asked wanda to destroy the stone without risking thousand of wakanda's people. But Cap still risked it. Just for one robot, thousands suffered. Get that straight before commenting nonsense. A wise man once said, "Nothing good comes out of hero worship."
@@jico5147 So when thor and hulk failed you think a human with enhanced abilities, a a guy with vibranium suit, a witch would be able to to stop stop Thanos?!?! How ridiculous this sounds! Best course of action would've been if they already destroyed time stone first and then destroy the rest.
As I have said a few dozen times now... Take it up with Kevin Feige. nerdist.com/article/captain-marvel-is-the-mcus-most-powerful-hero-according-to-kevin-feige/
Yeah, Spider-Man's kinda like the perfect balance between Iron Man and Cap. He has the moral compass and kindness (not to mention superhuman enhancements) that Cap possesses, whilst being smart and tech-savvy enough to be a stand-in for Iron Man. If there's really any one flaw he possesses: it's his naivete (though I'd like to think he's become less trusting since Mysterio.
I could see that. but obvious reasons of why it sadly wouldn't work. no one (EI: Danvers) would listen to a white male teen them what to do. He'd have to have an adult (or two) who would back him up.... so.. Cyborg?
@@TheAwkwardGamer ooof.. sorry. Who's the guy who's a robot and has an infinity stone in him? That's who I meant. married to black widow. wait.. huh.. no wonder I got 'em confused. both have a robotic like character that has some deadly power as a part of their power source to live. >.
Wow best video on Captain Marvel’s motivates I’ve ever seen. Some of those out there shilling for the Captain marvel movie needs to watch this before they defend her.
I've just watched this video not long after watching Captain Marvel, and I gotta say, people need to learn how to compartmentalize the difference between the comics and the MCU, as the MCU isn't entitled to be comic accurate, and because of that, they can and will make many liberties to change characters up, and I really appreciate how much better MCU Carol Danvers is compared to what I've heard of her comic book counterpart
@@PaintingwithEnrique She wasn't just "making sure". She saw that old lady leaving the train before entering herself, then spotted the very same lady still sitting inside. That's how she knew it was a Skrull.
Except, that is the basis of all governments. People give up some of their liberty in order to gain the protection of the state. That is form of government Benjamin Franklin and his cohorts designed.
"What's more the “purchase [of] a little temporary safety” of which Franklin complains was not the ceding of power to a government Leviathan in exchange for some promise of protection from external threat; for in Franklin’s letter, the word “purchase” does not appear to have been a metaphor. The governor was accusing the Assembly of stalling on appropriating money for frontier defense by insisting on including the Penn lands in its taxes--and thus triggering his intervention. And the Penn family later offered cash to fund defense of the frontier--as long as the Assembly would acknowledge that it lacked the power to tax the family’s lands. Franklin was thus complaining of the choice facing the legislature between being able to make funds available for frontier defense and maintaining its right of self-governance--and he was criticizing the governor for suggesting it should be willing to give up the latter to ensure the former." And if your going to quote Franklin, for fucks sake, at least get the quote right- “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety” www.lawfareblog.com/what-ben-franklin-really-said
@@HarshDude126 some of their liberties is not essentials liberties. Even thought the USA are strong in the department of negating essentials liberties nowadays
let's not forget, Miles and Cap stood at capitol hall to see if anything of the vision would happen, and it didn't and Carol just shows up even after nothing of the vision of miles killing cap came true saying "Your under arrest miles" and then Tony showe up in a freaking War Machine Hulkbuster but, sadly in the end, Carol Kills tony, and then the president is like "We're giving you funding and the position as Leader of the Superheroes" She got off scot free How exactly is she a hero?.
Thor:Combats easily all the stones and almost kills thanos Captain Marvel:Struggles killing a group of people EVERYONE:Captain Marvel is the most powerful! THOR:Am I a joke to you?!?
In the MCU they can do whatever they want with her as the MCU is separate from the comic universe, which scares me. I swear they better not pull a fast one on us in endgame.. As for the comics, she's a mid tier type character that was around iron man level (in some suits like bleeding edge he could beat her). Her character was never really created to be up there in power with characters like Thor, Hulk or Sentry.. hell even the original Male captain marvel before danvers was weak sauce in comparison to them and her powers are derived from him... Despite being able to make her as powerful as they want in the MCU due to it being it's own seperate thing from the comics, I pray that they dont give us a fucking marry sue that makes the rest of the avengers irrelevant or some nonsense along the lines
@@titel9870 because the trope of authoritarianism is bad is so common in villains it's just a little boring. But it would still be leagues better than how she is now
When ghost rider penance stare it didn't work on her, but she has done some pretty messed things. On Thanos it also didn't work beacuse he had no remorse And he has done also some horrible things. You see the connection.
And only a handful of other people have either ignored or resisted the power of the pentence stare one of said people being Deadpool who when it is done to him only see the Highlight Reel of all the awesome stuff he did his own words not mine.
The reason she has no remorse is because she thinks she’s right with all of her actions, she basically has convinced herself that everything she does is for the greater good.
warren byrne Well, I don’t really know. Considering Superman is one of the strongest DC superheroes and hasn’t really used his full strength most of the time so...
@@thekingacc4659 and thats the thing. Wandas powers are directly from a stone while captain marvels power comes from an engine powered by a stone and not directly from the stone itself. To me it seems like they decided that they already built up a reputation and they can just do whatever they want and get lazy from here on out.
@PeachyBee she isn't, she upset people for saying that we need more representation and now everyone hates her. Add in that she is a successful liberal woman and everyone hates her even more.
Well this only proves that Brie Larson was a great choice. The most unlikable character in the Marvel Universe. Yet they still thought she was needed in the Marvel movies.
It could have been worse. Imagine the Sentry in the MCU. A Superman-type so bat-shit crazy he's his own literal worst enemy. (The Void? I think it was a manifestation of his "dark side") Trust me, Carol can die or just leave the planet. But Sentry would be much worse.
Thor is the most powerful hero tho. In the comics when the avengers fight thanos part , Thanos made thor so old but thor said savagely ''We Gods Get So Much Powerful If We Age'', thor almost defeated thanos but thanos made him back to his normal age...
The comics are a different universe, I don’t like it either but the creators of the MCU have complete say over the canon in the MCU, if Feige she’s the most powerful in the MCU, she’s the most powerful in the MCU.
@@kittyplayz1480 exactly! like Vision & Scarlet Witch wasn't op in the Civil War movie. They're powered by infinity stone, just like Carol. So it makes sense. Idk why people don't get that
I want MCU Captain Marvel to have authoritarian anti due process beliefs in the beginning but then go though an arc where she realizes how damaging and paranoid that mindset really is.
Why would space Karen fly around and enforce people in the darkest place of all? Space. Since she is a Karen after all she'd spend all day shooting at space and yelling "Stop harassing me and my children!"
@@commandercruel8231 thats what shes doing. She thinks you are a bad person because someone said so and so you are cancelled and should be put to jail.
“Every time someone tries to win a war before it starts, innocent people die. Every time.”
- Steve Rogers
To be fair in war innocent people also die. Often a lot of them. Covert operations are most likely to prefer over having started all the machines of war. The only question is do we want freedom (and thus can be robbed or killed by strangers) and responsibility or slavery and safety (as long as you do not step out of line)?
vincentgraymore the point is that it’s impossible to avoid tragedy and war. Only to be prepared for when that tragedy happens. You can’t slap a bandaid on a dead body expecting it to come back to life... but you can prepare for when those tragedies happen to make sure we have the highest probability of having the minimum amount of tragedy happening...
Seriously to try to assume that we can prevent a war “thousands dying” is a better terms of preventing tragedy than allowing countless millions dying in constant carnage of war. But here is the problem most people don’t understand. Diplomacy and room to talk between the two fighting sides is way too late to attempt when one side already attacked... war is complex and won’t always be as simple as you might think.
Stepping on peoples rights to prevent a tragedy is the same as arresting a kid for committing murder in the future so that kid can’t be given a life to live in public anymore just because one of the millions of possibilities that he will commit murder when he’s 35 years olds? Well that’s not fair or due process of what freedom really is...
vincentgraymore also being robbed is always a possibility regardless of being free or not. But freedom to defend yourself and your property is the right and responsibility you have when it comes to being free.
True that!
I believe in people's right to self determinate their own futures. Freedom is extremely chaotic and messy. But I would rather take it and live the my life my way than enforced "safety". People die every day that is a fact. But this doesn't mean life isn't worth living. You just cannot let fear cripple you.
Captain America says: you can’t just tell people to get in line by threatening them
Captain Marvel says: If it works it’s right
Like trying to hammer a square into a cirle
That's why Captain America is my favorite superhero (A genuine sense of goodness, humility and selflessness), and why Captain Marvel is a nasty, narcissistic, self- righteous rhymes- with- witch with the potential to become a full- fledged supervillain.
Isn't that fascism or communism
@@Adamguy2003 Captain Marvel? more like Captain Communist Dictator to me.
@ didn't communism also slaughter millions and didn't facism do that to In the hands of Hitler who slaughtered millions of Jews because they were most likely to rise up against him
'Illegal alien attacks innocent black teen, war veteran saves the day'
is literally Carol Danvers attacking Miles Morales, and Captain America saving him
Carol is not an illegal alien. She was born in the US, and is a high ranking officer of the US air force, the accident that made her an alien hybrid happened way after in her life. So the correct wording would be "Retired US military attacks innocent black teen, war veteran saves the day". Another could be "NASA's former chief of security attacks innocent black teen, war veteran saves the day". And there are probably many other options. She used to have a rich background but who cares, right? Better make her a one dimensional character that makes stupid decisions.
I wish they hadn't butchered her character. She used to be one of my favorites.
@@Ghostosaurio I agree Civil War 2 really trash her character
Eh
More like space Karen tries to have black kid arrested
Technically Tony saves him first
@@Ghostosaurio wow, you REALLY missed that one...
Ironically, The Punisher, an antihero that takes on the role of Judge Jury and Executioner, has a better moral compass than space karen
When you Tony Stark AND the Punisher have better morales, you are truly a very screwed up person.
@@RineYFD Tony changed but I agree with punisher
DUDE, the punisher extinguished the entire human race, I can see you don't read comics and just watch the quarterings videos, heck the punisher killed two innocent kids because they were trying to stand up to their dad
@@felipe3724 and yet he has a better moral compass than space Karen, crazy uh?
Karol's moral compass only points to herself.
What she does is right, because she is the one doing it.
"Nobody stays dead in the comics"
You know, except for Uncle Ben.
And Superman's parents
But there’s one person who will never stay dead in our memory
Stan Lee
Ouch
He comes back to life only to die over and over again in the next book or movie
and the Waynes
"Every time someone tried to stop a war before it starts innocent people die" - Captain America
Commas are important
That's bullshit.
Well what about when someone DON'T try to stop a war before it starts ? Because I"m pretty sure innocent people still die.
@@Snipfragueur Well yeah thats pretty obvious
Dr Drew Then might as well try to end a war before it starts, so less innocent people die, no ?
Or are you supposed to end the war JUST after it stars, so you limit the casualties, or something ?
I don't know it just sounds dumb.
Why yes. Captain Marvel is a hero!
With the
Wisdom of Solomon
Strength of Hercules
Stamina of Atlas
Power of Zeus
Courage of Achilles
Speed of Mercury
And a pure heart. Billy Batson is definitely a hero.
Not gonna lie, you had us in the first half
Okay okay you got me XD
Legal battles
Lol
Virgin "Captn Marbul" vs CHADZAM
I don’t know why everyone hates Captain Marvel so much, he’s powerful he has Wisdom of Solomon, Strength of Hercules, Stamina of Atlas..........
Oh shit wrong franchise
HAHAHAHA, that was pretty good
Nah, we all love that guy.
What you mean?
That guy is pretty lovable
@@Justwatchingvideos010
The joke
Your head
Ms. Marvel Carol would sit on Billy's face.
But Captain Marvel Billy would sit in Carol's face.
You just successfully used a fictional universe that everyone is fascinated by to bring to light very real issues in our society that most people seem to be oblivious of. Kudos to you, sir.
I Am Paul well said man
Which means MCU probably won't attempt it
@@Meta.noia_art not really since she is usually attacked as a result of her own words that (while sometimes exaggerated) aren't misinterpreted
He perfectly described the SJW movement
No. Not FEE. Marvel Comics. Marvel Comics deserves SOLE credit for mirroring American society in graphic fiction.
Yup and shows how she feminist lefts are this way they don't agree with free spech arresting people for offensive speech blameing Hite stright males for rape they haven't committed ect and much more yea and the funny part is brie larsons personality litterally matches these issues too..... LuL bat shit crazy sjw feminist lefts athoritarians
That's why Steve and Tony made a very good combo. Pragmatism and idealism balancing each other.
Agreed
*Yes*
I'm with that.
And always was
I love this comment.
“Every time someone tries to win a war before it starts, innocent people die. Every time.”
- MCU Captain America in Avengers: Age Of Ultron.
Winter Soldier actually.
@@aswd90 its aou
If you look at what happened during his time (Pearl Harbor), along with his probably brief examination of history, his comments definitely make sense. And I think he's right to an extent.
She's the most powerful.
aswd90 idiot
Kevin Feige: *sees fans unhappy with Captain Marvel being the most powerful* shit, I messed up
*Creates WandaVision*
At least it's closer to comic canon than CM's joke of a movie
i dont see the joke. wandavision is great...
@@jarl428 CM director claims CM is the strongest ( she's not really though) wandavision shows what a real powerhouse can do...I.e. warp reality around her
@@blkbrdmntrvimes6438 yeah. Wanda is overpowered. In comics, she once eradicated all the mutants by just saying the words "No more mutants". The only mutants left were those who were saved in a pocket universe.
@@ayush885 preaching to the choir fellow fan I've read it good stuff
Is no one gonna talk about how she threatened to blow off someone's hand unless they gave her his bike
And all he did was ask her to smile.
But dude... It's for the greater good
@Humphrey Rwechungura but it is! Dontcha see that everything ever done "for the greater good" has ALWAYS ended well & perfectly?
Yes guys, Damien is being sarcastic.
But the guy was a proven asshole
And it was a deleted scene, remember?
"Captain Marvel should pick up where Captain America left off."
-yeah no
*Closes book* Like that’s ever gonna happen
@@theonlyethanhiroshiki an argument could be made that Thor is as stronger or maybe stronger than captain marvel
@@theonlyethanhiroshiki The One Above All,Legion,Scarlet Witch,Deadpool,Lady Death,Ghost Rider,and of course The One Below All.
@@PirateCat822 Thor is also more powerful than her.
8:05 : "No one can account for every possible future"
*Stephen Strange:* *_Am I joke to you?_*
Well you just made an argument for why the person to decide should be Dr. Strange NOT Captain Marvel but of course he could also guide it other outcomes.
@@jasonasdecker actually, no. Strange is the smartest because of his ability. But in terms of raw power, Carol, as much as it pains me to say because fuck Carol, is the strongest. She can brute force situations he can't.
@@James.Stark.Ben.Edition wait are we taliing about the comics or dcu because if its comics then i am pretty sure that thor and hulk is stronger
@@James.Stark.Ben.Edition
Even with his modern need Doctor Strange has enough magical might to tell Galactus to go away and the cosmic being would actually listen to him. Carol wouldn't even register to the guy (even aborsbing his energy us pointless as he by nature is her abilities taken to a new level)
At his peak Strange was the only hero to briefly the the infinity gauntlet in a dual only being unable to hold that power was the only reason for his defeat.
James Stark pls go reread comics old man Thor will bitch slap her all day and night.... Like wow the fact u said that just wow bro
"Is captain marvel actually a hero?"
Short answer: No
@Prinsstar SsTp My bigger answer isn't much bigger, but my idea is that she has so much power that makes her overpowered that she believes that she is better than everyone and can do whatever she wants while believing it is "good" without any repercussions, even if what she is believing is factually not really good at all, like in civil war 2 where she is gonna get rid of miles before he does anything
Bigger answer: No, and no.
They did her character badly in this strip. I think she’s a hero in other comics
@@apexspyder8994 sometimes. But not most times. If the writers aren't absolute morons they can handle her right by changing her. But most of the time she's handled poorly
@@Tainted_Human sadly
Captain Marvel in the Movie: Acts arrogant, and breaks the arm of a guy for just being a bit of a jerk and steals his bike. So heroic!
@Masemeno Nasaku Pff. Just that? In SJW mindset, being called hot and having your ass groped is far worse than being backstabbed by your close friends, drugged and sent into exile in outer space, and be met with aggression when you return ending up with the loss of your new family.
@@bloody4558 and if you say otherwise even if you agree other one is terrible too you are sexist!
@@makaramuss damn really
@@bloody4558 wait? Are you talking about h
Hulk?
I don’t really like the one from the movie. Cocky and holier than thou. It’s annoying how she thought that what she was doing was more important than saving half the universe and ends up failing at the end and getting tony stark killed I’m pasting this where I want it. I want it in a lot of places
That moment when Hydra Cap was more heroic than Captain Marvel.
Love him or hate him, he spittin heroic fascist facts
That is sad
@@chewyfishlegs7176 9í8n
@______ ⁹⁹í
I’m your 600th like :)
Captain Marvel is more like Brie Larson rather than actually Captain Marvel, like in the comics.
I have seen u before
W
Boi I see you literally everywhere.
Oh hi Mark
Just Some Guy without a Mustache bruh are you a ghost or something?
"Some of you may die, but thats a price im willing to pay" captain farquad
I see you're a man of culture
*Prince
@@SuperSaiyanD48 lord*
@@connordonahue2159 Oh yeah, that's right.
In Civil War 1, the writers genuinely makes readers to choose sides, both Rogers and Stark have something that can justify their actions.
But in Civil War 2?, Not so much, majority sides with Stark.
G Toyadha Tagya B really I thought most readers sided with Cap even though apparently Tony was supposed to be the one in the right
@@pickedceasar1216 arguable
G Toyadha Tagya B I mean if you can prove me wrong go ahead but I don't really care that much
@@pickedceasar1216 Well yea, I know you won't, that's why I won't even bother. 😂
Tony in civil war was incredibly authoritarian in his decisions, I mean spider man himself says he regrets teaming up with tony and switches to cap's side. Tony in civil war was disgustingly close to being the bad guy, I'll give civil war props for its interesting set up and a better read than the sequel; but this along with it's sequel has the issue of one side showing more sanity than the other.
08:09 "no one can account for every possible future"
Doctor Strange: Hold my 14,000,605 beers
He's gonna get drunk
He missed one
@@thesneakymemedealer5071 Well, he went through 14.000.605 futures using the Time stone and discovered that they had a 1 in 14.000.605 chance of winning.
Well thats why :
magic is Magic
&
Science is Science
Chappie that’s not how any of that works....
“I hope that Carol takes up the mantel of being the Avengers moral core, now that Steve is gone.”
Captain Marvel: “You touched my newspaper. Give me your property or lose your hand.”
Haha. Nah.
Well, they do need a new threat, CM being a fascistic dictator trying to seize power is one way to do it.
Spencer Whiteway
She’s one Cocky bitch in comics. Don’t know how her actor will portray her.
@@supersoldier2539CM's actress is just like CM
Vai Okay then there goes that.
Yeah i bet he feels stupid saying that now.
It's really poetic how Carol Danvers accuses Miles Morales of something he didn't do, then Captain America and the real Ms. Marvel have to vouch for him.
Tl;dr: Kamala > Carol
This "heroine" murdered Tony Stark in the comics
Not murdered, but paralyzed and in coma for who knows how long... Alright, he's pretty much dead.
Eric Reis
It’s fine she’s a whammens.
Tony Stark is a straight white male. It's ok
I say this storyline is a cheap copy of the injustice story in DC. There are similarities in the core storyline.
@ But the cause of the coma that led to her death was she
They'd probably make a hit if they turned CM into a villain. It would've made more sense than Steve Rogers being a Hydra agent.
Thank yoU
I would like to see a movie like that.
Who says she's not a villain ?its all about perspective
It's the John Cena effect
I suggested they have CM get the gauntlet from Thanos and have Thanos and the Avengers fight her. It would make it so much better.
I'm glad it wasn't Captain Marvel who beat Thanos, but Iron Man himself.
Same, I loved it when Thanos decked her in the face too
funny scarlet witch do the most damage to thanos 2014...
OMG AGREED- tony stark will forever be the legend
Thanos punched CM out of the movie
His headbutt did nothing though?
“Captain Marvel is being set up to be the most powerful hero in the marvel cinematic universe”
Wanda after wandavision: “allow me to introduce myself”
Lol wait until they introduce sentry
@@8BitNeuron4808 that would be great Actually
(But then he will be on same tier as thor hulk and hercules (when je appear in thor 4)
I like austin powers version better "allow myself to introduce.........myself"!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wanda has always been one of the most powerful heroes they have if not The most powerful, remember She can rewrite the universe with her powers.
@@8BitNeuron4808 If they do I’m gonna lose my shit. Sentry is one of the greatest Marvel characters EVER!
She actually became a proper villain in the comics. Why am I not surprised
@Matt Murdock the rare CM fanboi is seen in there local habitat.
@@av4960 gaze upon this rare sight you may never see it again
@Matt Murdock
Nc retcon
@Matt Murdock "comically educated"
@Matt Murdock no it's just a funny way of saying it.
I just realized why her behavior is so different from the first civil war she was in.
She got the Karen haircut in the second war.
Captian Karen vs The manager
@@truches7509 how about manavengers
@@meloneatingwolf1882 xD
Damn, I actually liked her haircut. RIP for me then.
lmfaooo
Local white, blue-eyed, tall, blonde woman with way too much power in her hand imprisons people for crimes they didn't commit.
Opposition includes, among others: innocent black-boy who didn't actually do anything, poster-boy for America and interestingly enough Holocaust survivor Magneto.
Holy shit this sounds like a WW2 story from my great grandfathers days. (German here btw)
Can definitely tell that they didn’t think that through or they think about it at all
You're a German huh....... Where the jews
Not to mention that Hitler youth haircut (in the comics)
If it's the German that's calling it out...
Captain marvel is what Hitler jacks off to when Eva braun isn't around
So in the MCU... she can basically shoot lasers with her hands ? Wow... I've never seen that being done by anyone else... Not even Iron Man...
Tbh I think Monica will have spectrum power which allows her to shoot different range of energy blasts(actually she has too many power this is just on of them lol.)
From what I can make out, her powers are flight, shooting stuff out of her hands and ramming into stuff.
@@dannypalin9583so iornman
"Is Captain Marvel a hero?"
No. I believe the entire point of her original arcs was to convey that, even in the hands of a _woman,_ absolute power corrupts absolutely and no one individual should be expected to burden themselves with unilateral moral decisions; that is almost a textbook example of corruption through proxy because the power granted by her station almost makes her a despot.
In effect, Marvel decides who lives and dies based on her suspicions of potential and it isn't until Tony Stark confronts her with the armor-piercing question about her future-police philosophy: "What happens when _you_ become a threat to freedom? When _you're_ the most dangerous murderer in a room?"
It's essentially the Aesop of, "What do you say to the unstoppable force to change its mind? When all power and authority is concentrated into a single entity, what can you do to change this without being destroyed? What do you say when your ally becomes a standalone WMD with political opinions? If she had decided that Thanos was right, Infinity War and Endgame would have been much more fucked up stories than they turned out.
Gods above, that has never been more relevant than today.
Yep, their are only two wielders of the cosmic power that the title Captain Marvel comes with that didn’t get corrupted by it, the original Mar-vell, and his “daughter” Phyla-vell. Danvers is the fourth wielder of this power, and is going down the same route as Mar-vell’s son, who eventually went completely insane from all the power. Out of all the wielders of this power, Phyla-vell was far and away the best of them all.
@@thejestor9378 I learned something new today! Thank you!
@@thejestor9378 wait this power can be passed down? I should really start reading captain marvel
Thats a pretty good explanation! Thanks
@@ultravioletentertainment7332Read the Annihilation books instead. Phyla Vell does not really appear in any Captain Marvel comics I'm aware of and the whole series ending with The Thanos Imperative is one of the best stories from Marvel. I haven't read any of Original Captain Marvel and idk what stories his son is in. Also the best character to have Captain Marvels powers imo is Rogue from the X Men. She kinda stole them but whatever.
Personal opinion, but...
I just couldn't really get attatched to Captain Marvel. She feels too overpowered. The characters of the MCU has a balance of flaws and strengths, and even if the characters are powerful, like Thor or Docter Strange, they show character development. Captain Marvel just feels like an OC I made when I was 11.
Ivan BlancBlack she is a Mary sue nothing more, nothing less. Also her flaw is having no flaws.
@@Mound_Maker
She's also the most unreliable superhero ever. Placing the Captain Marvel film in the 90's automatically damages her reputation because she's been absent for everything that occurred in the Avengers films, the Guardians of the Galaxy films, and Thor: Ragnarok.
@@loudboy317 I don't really agree with that, there's a whole other universe out there and I am sure theres plenty of people who need help
loudboy317 also the fact that the actress that plays her role (Brie Larson) acts like if she herself is captain marvel and is quite disliked by many, doesnt help
zhang Bill I agree, afterall she is more like a hero for the other planets and not earth since it has too many heroes
The main atractive of the Marvel heroes, in both comics and screen, is that they're flawed but fundamentally good people. Captain America's golden age moral compass is what makes him special.
Carol hasn't that quality, and forcing it in her could be perjudicial to the character.
If there's no new Steve Rogers after Chris Evans departures, the most qualified to be the conscience of the MCU would be Spiderman.
in my opinion the one that can replace captain america after his departure is black phanter. He has all the leader character should had. sorry bad english.
@@suhaimimohd8832 actually bp is the "semi-cap" on marvel... Since the reborn of captain marvel that went to hell... the logical idea should be Spiderman, who has the most carismatic and good compass of all the heroes (maybe with lots of inexpierence), but certainlly would be the perfect replace for cap... Dont forget cap has olmost 53/63 years (taking or leaving timely comics) and spidey only 30 (at the most) and nome of leading, only on crisis he made that role and did it great
I agree with this
I think they want her to be Stark type without brain, all battery.
Don't forget the hyphen between "Spider" and "Man".
3 Worlds: Kelly Sue Deconnic
She is the reason why Carol Danvers is now what we don't like since she become the writer of Carol Danvers. She was a likeable and normal person, and a good heroine when she was Ms. Marvel, now she is just a Space Karen writing by SJW and modern feminist writers.
Agreed! A lot of people are acting like Carol has always been unlikeable and awful. She used to be an amazing character and hero that inspired many.
I think most of those people never read her earlier comics.
Because new philosophies and Concepts can never be authoritarian . hahahaha... Kill me
@@tylerjamesnazario1770 well, she had some unlikeness and awlfulness before. like joining stark side and supporting the registraction act. yeah, she thought that was the right thing to do, but she also thought that using the future visions/predictions was the right thing.
being fair there bendis wrote civil war 2, not kelly. still, i agree that the way kelly wrote her was bad, not always, but most of the time.
You missed the real kicker. In an issue of Ultimates, it is conclusively, undeniably proven that Ulysses' predictions are not always accurate. Carol Danvers is there for all of it. She sees first hand that his prediction was simply wrong. Despite this, she continues on course with just as much self-righteous certainty as ever. That story line really did a lot of damage to her character.
Her moral character was on the decline ever since House of M. House of M revealed her primary desire for being a hero wasn't anything altruistic, it was to make people admire her. She was doing the Ms Marvel thing for herself not for the benefit of the weak and innocent- so the warping of reality installed her as the single greatest hero ever of the new world, admired, respected, and loved by all. Mar-Vell would be rolling in his grave if he knew of the things she's done with his name...and if he came back to life again he'd instantly know...what with his Cosmic Awareness and whatnot.
@@gtf234 I don't think you understood the Post house of M character. It wasn't that she wanted to be admired or to be famous for fame's sake. It was that she felt she hadn't lived up to her potential and thus wanted to fit into the mold of a hero that is respected and admired by all because that's how she felt she could improve. To be able to make a difference. She turned down joining the avengers because she felt she hadn't done enough good and that she felt she hadn't earned it or deserved it. Underneath the selfish seeming plastic lay an altruistic goal, written a bit more complexly/subversively.
The comic also reinforces that famous heroes are the ones that are seen as more competent. There's one time she outright admits that she isn't doing this for fame or popularity, but because she's felt she's wasting her potential to do good.
No I understand Carol used to think she was wasting her potential- that was back when she was still an alcoholic that could put Tony to shame. That part was always loud and clear and one of the reasons she was liked as Ms Marvel back then- she was very flawed and troubled. After House of M was a sobering up period of her trying to confront and make up for that side of herself- but it doesn't deny that's how she was.
But that universe fed into what everyone desired most, and Carol placed herself at the top of everything. It's been well established that the Pysche-Magnitron gave Carol Mar-Vell's powers because she was envious of him and the machine responds to the desires of those exposed to it- that was way back in Ms Marvel issue 19 from the 70s.
Yooo
@@gtf234 She wanted powers less because she was envious of him and more because of how powerless she felt when yon rogg had captured her hence wanted to stand with Mar-vell as an equal rather than a damsel in distress (as so many powerless female love interests tended to be at the time). She was also inspired to be a hero as established by Ms. Marvel 50; She tells Mar-vell she didn't want to be a copy of him back in Ms. Marvel 1977 19 and wanted to be her own woman, but the Psyche magnitron misread what she wanted (for better or worse according to her) as all wishing wells and rabbit feet tend to do.
House of M putting her at the top of everything was just part of her being wasted potential. She felt with those powers she should've been right at the top just like Mar-vell was and anything less was wasting her powers. It's the "with great power comes great responsibility" taken to the extreme. "If you don't become the greatest and take the most responsibility with great power, you have failed and nothing less than the best is good enough". Hence her name being Captain Marvel in that reality. Being admired is just a side effect of that goal. Which is why I say, it simply is a subversion of shallow seeming goal. It's why she refused to join the avengers because she didn't feel like she deserved it enough. It's why she quite homeland security because she didn't feel she was doing enough good sitting behind a desk. At the end of Ms. Marvel 50, she had realized that trying to fit in with the archetype of a super popular hero wasn't what she wanted and it wasn't'really a goal, and she aimed to simply be the best version she can be instead of trying to be at the top of the superhero game.
the moment you realize Judge Dredd is a better "hero" than her...
Well he is the law.
People like Judge Dredd and The Punisher are always seem like an scary anti hero to many
But to me they are a much Better Heroes not only that her but most so called Heroes imho.
Dredd actually is given the authority to be judge, jury and executioner though. So he's literally just doing his job.
@@AdeptKing And judges are not given that authority lightly, they need a perfect recollection of every relevant law to them
@@jaysanj152 They are. They are efficient. They give bastards the taste of their own medicine. They don't sympathize with bad guys. They put them down for good. There is nothing more satisfying than evil getting karma in form of bullets.
There's another interesting moment that takes place during this storyline. After Captain Marvel has arrested numerous people indefinitely without evidence, and getten several Avengers maimed and/or killed, she was confronted by Magneto. Apparently, she had sent a surveillance drone after him, and he returned it to her (in multiple pieces). When he asked if her pet prophet had seen him in a vision, she dodged the question, labeled him a 'person of interest,' and then said "We're broadening our scope."
What follows is taken word-for-word from the comic:
Magneto: "Yes, this is how it starts. Next come the detention camps."
Captain Marvel: "Right, I forgot. You're that guy online who compares everything to Hitler."
Now, while I won't dispute Magneto being someone worth keeping an eye on, and I won't say it's the worst thing she could have said...but it's still pretty high up there on the list of 'Terrible Things to Say to an Actual Holocaust Survivor.'
Omfg i forgot about that.
CM: Oh, you’re the guy online who compares everything to Hitler
I mean if the shoe fits
@@jamesgrinsen1085 ...sorry, but for clarity sake, are you saying that about Magneto when you say 'If the shoe fits'?"
Which is to say, you agree with Captain Marvel scoffing at him that he's just "the guy online who compares everything to Hitler"? In spite of her thought-crime initiative? And in spite of Magneto's status as a Holocaust survivor _and_ a mutant?
electricbayonet2 Nah nah lmfao was saying it makes sense to compare Captain Marvel with Hitler in this instance
Ohhh shit, I almost forgot Magneto went through all that horrific crap. Poor guy...
You know who Captain Marvel kinda reminds me of. Homelander.
Homelander is completely different from Captain Marvel.
Now that you mention it
Bro how rude and insulting can you be?
To homelander
At least Homelander is aware he is a monster and is contantly trying to cover it up, Captain Marvel is so certain she is right, she could kill a 10yo boy and say "no need to thank me, I am a hero" to the parents next to the still burning corpse.
I understand but that is the point of her character. She’s pretentious and self centered brat with a fuck ton of power. That’s the point. She’s fighting for justice, HER JUSTICE. It would have nice if the mcu had gone this route and had fans realized as she continues to appear that “i don’t she’s the good guy”. That would have been an excellent route and genuine start for a bunch of conflicts. But instead they made her a hero
Is Captain Marvel a Hero?
Marvel: Well yes but actually no
IM UR FIRST COMENT 》:D
Welp idk what im doin
@@toricrappyprojects5867 hah lol
More of a antie hero
@@Dualbladedscorpion7737 what took u so long to comment?
@@toricrappyprojects5867
It all started when i was born...
Gotta ask, why are they choosing one of the most hated comic "heroes" as the face of the next few phases, especially without removing the things she's hated for
'Cause she is being pushed by political agenda, which actually see itself in thing everyone else hate
Because they wanted a very strong female character for political reasons and power wise indeed she is but I don't like her at all
Disney=feminist
@@darthsidious2952 yeah because obviously it’s the distribution that decide for what and for how much time there should be a character of their biggest franchise not the company that literally made both the original comic book material and the films.
Because of moronic people that have started to try and reform society and fix the issue around sexism. However,all it does is make society worse about it because some people are so insensitive and as I said,moronic,they can't see past themselves and the attention they are lacking.
Two words:
Space Karen
This comment should have more likes, It deserves more likes
karen you absolute troglodyte get me out of this manga panel right now
Dear god if the Karen's unlocked space tech they would be unstoppable we wouldn't be able to protect our stuff
Lol
Lol
And what make it worst.
Peter join her side despite her treatment to everyone and Miles. Which is extremly out of character for him.
Just like when he joined Team Iron Man in the first civil war and got his identity revealed and put mj and aunt may in danger Then joins Team Cap. Hes doing the same shit in this comic now.
@@twizzlerlemonpie3083 Peter of all people should know that revealing your identity puts everyone else at risk. Him revealing his identity for iron man was just WAYYY too out of character for him
Yup just hope it doesn't happen in mcu even tho mysterio reveals it in mcu/sony
@@ilhandaanish2381 yea even people like black panther joined Cap.Marvels side like wtf i thought black panther was better than that.
They probably did that because there's barely none heroes that would side with her
Finally someone shows a light on this. She's not a hero at all, not even an anti-hero. Just a very delusional villain trapped in her own mindset of self righteousness. Very well done video explaining perfectly!
Have you read a comic book about her? I suggest a comic book about how she dies. It sounds weird, Ik, but I think a lot of people don’t understand how captain marvel in the movie is different to the comics. She is a very good hero. :)
@@idontknowletmesee7063
- killed bruce for something that didnt even happen
- caused rhodey to die and she hulk to be injured
- imprisoned a kid (almost)
- is trapped in her own meaning of righteousness
Yes very good hero
@@strongest_eggg you forgot when Carol made a teenage gistapo.
@@strongest_eggg i thought Bruce made Hawkeye kill him?
@@shaunstorey23
Idk
"Thought the punishment usually came after the crime."
“This isn’t freedom. This is fear.”
“Every time someone tries to win a war before it starts, innocent people die... Every time.”
@@kingpinthe3rd17 well innocent people die when the war starts anyway, just saying
When America is a better Captain than all of Marvel.
ara!
Captain America: "I thought the punishment came after the crime."
Fury: "we can't afford to wait that long."
I'm with Cap on this one.
bengreen1012
I was thinking that exact same thing
bengreen1012 Which makes it all the more painful to see that Chris Evans is a phenomenal actor. Him as Cap is someone to aspire to. Evans as himself is almost just as contemptible as Danvers.
Joshua Fogg what did Evans say again I’m curious?
GravitonPlayz I'm curious too.
@@graviton6436 True, Chris Evans is just as "Woke" and sjw as Brie Larson
"Captain Marvel is the most powerful hero!"
"Wanda, if you would."
"Ugh, fine." rewrites reality, "Marvel who?"
Noobmaster69 is actually the most powerful hero
Thor: Welp time to go stick his arms up his butt
More like the most powerful villain
He’s a villain
the rat*
You mean villain
Ironic how the hydra agent Cap showed more compassion to Miles than Captain Marvel did
The Hydra Agent Cap knows how Cap thinks and acts, so to prevent his death at the hands of Miles Morales he acted exactly how the real Cap would.
@@TankHunter678 that's because he kinda was the real cap and believed he was doing the right thing.
christian crusader true you could look at it both ways that hydra cap was just acting so to not blow his cover and result in his death by miles
Or that cap is still a good person just with wrong intent as due to red skull and whatever the girls name was who changed him
@@assassinhit6684 I'm going with the latter because that seems to be the intent of the creators, especially when the two caps talk in prison.
If I'm not mistaken (spoilers ahead) when the tesseract rewrote reality to make steve a Hydra member it remade this world's hydra into a somewhat good hydra with good ideals which is why Cap joined in the first place and is why Cap kills red skull later
I might have misremembered things I haven't read it in a while
Can't they just make her a straight up villain already? She's clearly a remorseless psychopath.
If they make her a villain, a bunch of idiots on Twitter will go apeshit.
If they make her a villain that would mean she was wrong, and naturally that’s unacceptable.
@@PikachuLittle I mean, make her a villain that thinks she's a hero, she still does good, but in her way wich does more harm than good.
Sort of like Superman did
@@ianthecoolthief6226 so chaotic good?
Doing "good" at any cost?
Captain Marvel: **exists**
Satan: *"I just wanna say, I'm a big fan."*
Ever since your attack on the Jedi temple
Satan is a big fan of you
@@arshgrewal9487 So we're just gonna pretend that I don't live in Jedi heaven.
‘Cap, tell him I’m not satan’
Sounds like Captain Marvel would make a good villain.
Starnana She already is
Isn't her race trying to exterminate an entire other race? I'm talking about the storyline, lol. I know it's funny how it mirrors real life but there are small differences... Very small.
How ironic
A super powered lex luther
Aye aye
Well, I guess her assaulting a guy and destroying his property because he told her to smile shows how much she is committed to fairness and justice
But it’s okay because she’s a WAH-man. I seriously don’t get why there are people defending her. It’s definitely not because she’s a good person.
It’s literally a deleted scene omg... HAHAHAHA
@@JamesNerdMan85 he was basically sexually assaulting her to be fair
@@thorgod0824 being slightly annoying and asking her to smile is not sexual assault. Abusing her powers, threatening physical harm, and stealing clothes and a motorcycle are crimes though.
@@thorgod0824 lmao youre joking right
But they aren't the "justice league"
They are the *Avengers*
****Broken flute avengers theme***
It's worse since Avenger is avenging people before the actual tragedy even happend XD
Also the justice league doesnt go around killing people based on probability. Hell, batman and superman have a strict "no kill" policy :/
@@AstralTaurus who does the Avengers kill?I mean except for the walking tin can AI and the guy who suicide bomber himself and would have died anyway and when a metal armed man was brainwashed(Ultron,crossbones,Bucky)
@@fennylomena853 I was mostly referring to how fucked up c. Marvel is for killing people who haven't done anything yet
@@AstralTaurus That’s literally just captain marvel. Stop generalizing stuff
Also I’m pretty sure that in the comics she killed tony and then on his death bed, proceeded to tell him how horrible of a person he was.
Bruh her personality is just as horrible as his.
Which comic was this and why did she kill him
@@nevergonnagiveyouup4279 pretty sure it was in one of the Civil War II comics
@@IronStriker-2407 thanks
Why do people like her
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
...so beware of virtue.
It's a superhighway.
No it’s brought out of fear.
You idiots don’t know what your talking about if someone’s looking for security they are scared and that’s definitely a feminine trait. Men do it to, the wars we goto are out of fear, and because we think someone is gonna do something wrong that just means you have a weak will.
@サイレントボイス The opposite does not have to be true.
Well, this aged well. A recent Marvel comic made her a supervillain.
Quick question there's been a lot of comics recently that have her being a super villain. which one specifically are you referring to?
Kasey Combs
whO cOUld hAvE sEeN tHiS cOmInG?!
hmm, i wonder if they made her a villain, because she was omnipotent white fascist. that couldnt be depicted as a hero? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Danvers#2010s "
Following the conclusion of "Civil War II", Danvers starred in The Mighty Captain Marvel, by writer Margaret Stohl and artist Ramon Rosanas, which sees Danvers become a household name. Stohl explained, "She will
be one of the most popular heroes on the planet-but that's not something
she is very comfortable with. And of course she's lost a lot of folks that she's loved so she has to cope with that, too. That being said, she still has a job to do as commander of the Alpha Flight. Her latest mission being recruiting and training new cadets. It'll also bring with it a mysterious danger that will threaten everything Carol has built."[77]
It pisses me off that people (even this video's narrator) keep calling Carol Danvers "Captain Marvel," SHE'S NOT CAPTAIN MARVEL, she's _MISS_ MARVEL.
*_Captain_** Marvel* is a separate character, a MALE pink Kree (pink Kree are regular Kree but have the same skin tone as caucasian humans unlike their blue counterparts) alien called Mar'Vell.
@Snoi Med but the narrator was calling her Captain Marvel even though he was talking about Civil War, when she was still Ms. Marvel. Honestly, I don't care for any comics passed Dark Reign/Seige. That's when shit started to go woke, passing of mantles for woke points, etc. Marvel Comics has gone to shit, and The MCU is soon to follow. #getwokegobroke
Also I love how they tried to play her up as this strong female figure, who doesn’t need a man
But she’s literally a female redesign of the original Captain Marvel.. that was a man AND before her it was a black woman
I thought Kamala was called Ms. Marvel? And didn't she come after Carol?
@@yourmother5810 She's talking about Monica Rambeau
@@frankorious3023 ah gotcha
I prefer a black woman. Back woman don't play. Imagine her black with a belt ready to whoop thanos 😂 i would pay good money to read that
@Rookmations Yeah, Mar-Vell (the Original Capt. Marvel) didn't die for her. He died of cancer.
Fun fact: in the comics she had a crush on spider-man and venom, and when scorpion got the Symbiote he told spider-man and spidey asked her about it, after she was coy and completely embarrassed when training
With him, I mean she's not the only one who got embarrassed when liking spidey, I mean rogue tried to kiss him (it was because he was being nice to her, which I kinda don't mind because I once liked someone because they were nice to me) anyway there's a bunch it heros which had crushes on spidey, I mean kitty p, jean g, x-23, emma f and I'm pretty sure Medusa (marvel) had crushes on him and tried to either kiss him or show love to him, x-23 got scared and clawed his back when swinging, emma was being a yandere when she found out spider-mans real lifestyle/identity and made MJ hate him for some reason until jean came to let him know which led him to ask her to stop, spider-man kissed jean as saying thank you for saving his ass when they were fighting saber tooth which pissed off Cyclops and Wolverine, and I remember another inhuman said she remembered spidey because he was the guy she knew had a pretty nice bottom which Medusa had agreed on which embarrassed him, I think in the ultimate universe spidey and kitty dated until he realized he was still in love with Mary which lead to him kissing MJ around her and she tried to beat the shit out of him until Iceman saved his ass, dw kitty and x-23 both dated another guy, kitty dated star Lord and I think x-23 fucked/dated Angel
It makes that Endgame seen between her and him weird considering he is a minor
If she is a hero despite believing in her own righteousness above all else, so is Doctor Doom.
Well people of Latveria loves Doom
Louis Constantine Doom is in his own mind he is good. The Panther God of Wakanda granted the nations vibranium to him after deeming his motives pure.
The same applies to captain america
@@jo-el1898 Captain America is so good he'd even save the bad guys
At least Doom helped with Cleanup after 9/11
No one is talking about how amazing this video is.... Story from comics applied in real life with a great point.
You sir are a legend.
Abhishek Shinde proud to see another viewer who stuck around as long as me
Oh please! Why do you think people read Marvel Comics? This has been going on since the 60's! Possibly even earlier! These videos are LITERALLY 60 years behind what comic book readers already know!
So, Carol is self righteous disrespectful and unlikable in the comics, much like Bree Larson irl. So did Marvel actually make an accurate and solid casting choice?
Please don't judge this character because of one storyline. The Civil War storyline always has a hero character take the wrong side on a matter. In the first one it was Iron Man and in the second it was her. There's always gonna be a hated storyline or arc that sees a good character make terrible terrible terrible decisions. Its happened time and time again. I love the character Batman, but many recent writers in charge of his stories today make him do things that I hate. Now many readers will find themselves seeing a difference in the old version of Batman compared to the modern day version of Batman. Blame the writers.
@@riripari2042 yeah but for some reason she is written like a fuckin psycho. Ever since civil war 1 she has gotten progressively worse. In civil war 1 she ripped a family apart. Then came back on her decision since she felt bad about it later (six months later). She fought her friends and fired them leaving alpha flight. Emotionally manipulated adolescent heroes to turning jersey into a police state. Then she fought her best friend on this (spider woman). She got told off by kamala parents not to long ago. I hadnt read anything new from her because my recent pools have all been x-men.
Darius Cole-Samuels She’s literally a super villain who’s hunting Avengers for self-preservation now in the current run.
@@ackminecrer9165 yeah but im pretty sure she is faking the evil.
Darius Cole-Samuels I think she killed some Avengers (lesser known, of course) but I have to double check
"The complete certainty of her righteousness, and the disregard for due process that comes with it" Sounds a lot like the segment of society that she was meant to represent in the films.
Captain america says: we dont exchange lives, everyone has an oportunity of redemption and becoming their own heroes
Captain marvel says: *splish splash your opinion is strash*
That's hypocritical, don't you think?(We don't trade lives). When vision clearly said there's no time still he was bent on putting millions of wakanda's people life on danger just for one stone/robot/half robot.
@@Fahad2k1 and if that robot was captured one of the most powerful evil beings of the universe, Thanos will complete the infinite gauntlet and half the population of every being will be erased. A little stupid your comment ngl.
Believer so yeah let’s let him get the stone so half the universe will die and the people who would’ve died defending the stones will be dust
@@davidcardozo290 I didn't said that just give the stone to Thanos. Don't put your words on my mouth. Sometimes you superhero fans take it to seriously.
Vision said that he felt Thanos was coming. There was no time. So he asked wanda to destroy the stone without risking thousand of wakanda's people. But Cap still risked it. Just for one robot, thousands suffered. Get that straight before commenting nonsense.
A wise man once said, "Nothing good comes out of hero worship."
@@jico5147 So when thor and hulk failed you think a human with enhanced abilities, a a guy with vibranium suit, a witch would be able to to stop stop Thanos?!?! How ridiculous this sounds!
Best course of action would've been if they already destroyed time stone first and then destroy the rest.
Well I'll be damned, Brie Larson fits the role perfectly then.
ThePIXALated I laughed so hard at this, so true. 😂
XD this is the comment I was looking for. Now that I think about it, perhaps this is part of why Marvel cast her.
I was looking for this comment. Like, "omg please tell me it's here"
Was about to write this comment , but u were first (Y)
A douchebag actor for a douchebag character.
Sounds about right
Thor is actually the most powerful hero
As I have said a few dozen times now... Take it up with Kevin Feige.
nerdist.com/article/captain-marvel-is-the-mcus-most-powerful-hero-according-to-kevin-feige/
@@FEEonline
ua-cam.com/video/wJVnaNPbFBw/v-deo.html
Cheddar Cheese God• 15 years ago Brie probably have Kevin SUCC
What about hulk
Matpat ( Film theory ) actually made a video that states who by the two ( hulk and Thor ) was strongest
"captain marvel is set up as the most powerful character of the mcu"
wanda maximoff: hold my thanos
Come on, there is only one other Marvel character who could take over as the "moral" center for Cap, Spider-Man.
True. Spiderman is literally the embodiment of life and hope
Yeah, Spider-Man's kinda like the perfect balance between Iron Man and Cap. He has the moral compass and kindness (not to mention superhuman enhancements) that Cap possesses, whilst being smart and tech-savvy enough to be a stand-in for Iron Man. If there's really any one flaw he possesses: it's his naivete (though I'd like to think he's become less trusting since Mysterio.
I could see that. but obvious reasons of why it sadly wouldn't work. no one (EI: Danvers) would listen to a white male teen them what to do. He'd have to have an adult (or two) who would back him up.... so.. Cyborg?
@@jesseallen3109 Cyborg's DC, man. Completely different comic series.
@@TheAwkwardGamer ooof.. sorry. Who's the guy who's a robot and has an infinity stone in him? That's who I meant. married to black widow.
wait.. huh.. no wonder I got 'em confused. both have a robotic like character that has some deadly power as a part of their power source to live. >.
Wow best video on Captain Marvel’s motivates I’ve ever seen. Some of those out there shilling for the Captain marvel movie needs to watch this before they defend her.
I've just watched this video not long after watching Captain Marvel, and I gotta say, people need to learn how to compartmentalize the difference between the comics and the MCU, as the MCU isn't entitled to be comic accurate, and because of that, they can and will make many liberties to change characters up, and I really appreciate how much better MCU Carol Danvers is compared to what I've heard of her comic book counterpart
And not to mention, I absolutely love this video and its message
@@SlowWinterNuts
The ones who made the movies used the comics for ideas to build from.
"Hopefully we can see her becoming the hero that she should be..."
*shows clip of Captain Marvel punching old lady*
hmmm
@Nexus E-H It's still a great Juxtaposition tho.
She punch that old lady just to make sure she wasnt a skrull
The old lady was actually a Skrull, that's why.
@@univ8571 I was joking smh
@@PaintingwithEnrique She wasn't just "making sure". She saw that old lady leaving the train before entering herself, then spotted the very same lady still sitting inside. That's how she knew it was a Skrull.
Honestly, who cares if she’s the strongest? Even if she is the strongest hero, it doesn’t mean she’s the best hero.
yeah she isn,t the strongest anyway hulk is stronger as well as thor
“Oh, you cheated in Tic Tac Toe? *_WELL WE CANT HAVE PEOPLE LIKE YOU AROUND_*
She even had that "can i speak to ur manager" haircut
Yes that's her haircut in the comics
Karen Danvers
@@cooltesis4434 exactly.
Captain Karen xD
Or the sjw haircut
your
"They who can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
-Benjamin Franklin
Except, that is the basis of all governments. People give up some of their liberty in order to gain the protection of the state. That is form of government Benjamin Franklin and his cohorts designed.
"What's more the “purchase [of] a little temporary safety” of which Franklin complains was not the ceding of power to a government Leviathan in exchange for some promise of protection from external threat; for in Franklin’s letter, the word “purchase” does not appear to have been a metaphor. The governor was accusing the Assembly of stalling on appropriating money for frontier defense by insisting on including the Penn lands in its taxes--and thus triggering his intervention. And the Penn family later offered cash to fund defense of the frontier--as long as the Assembly would acknowledge that it lacked the power to tax the family’s lands. Franklin was thus complaining of the choice facing the legislature between being able to make funds available for frontier defense and maintaining its right of self-governance--and he was criticizing the governor for suggesting it should be willing to give up the latter to ensure the former."
And if your going to quote Franklin, for fucks sake, at least get the quote right- “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”
www.lawfareblog.com/what-ben-franklin-really-said
Justin McCurdy Replace that “-“ with a “~”.
@@HarshDude126 some of their liberties is not essentials liberties. Even thought the USA are strong in the department of negating essentials liberties nowadays
You mean most of the US
let's not forget, Miles and Cap stood at capitol hall to see if anything of the vision would happen, and it didn't
and Carol just shows up even after nothing of the vision of miles killing cap came true saying "Your under arrest miles"
and then Tony showe up in a freaking War Machine Hulkbuster
but, sadly in the end, Carol Kills tony, and then the president is like "We're giving you funding and the position as Leader of the Superheroes"
She got off scot free
How exactly is she a hero?.
I can actually understand Tony's skepticism for this. The last time something this big came u, he lost his friend and his team was shattered.
That is true! I never thought about that. And didn't that act eventually get repealed anyway?
Thor:Combats easily all the stones and almost kills thanos
Captain Marvel:Struggles killing a group of people
EVERYONE:Captain Marvel is the most powerful!
THOR:Am I a joke to you?!?
Drym Style Thor would destroy cm I’m both the comics and mcu
In the MCU they can do whatever they want with her as the MCU is separate from the comic universe, which scares me. I swear they better not pull a fast one on us in endgame..
As for the comics, she's a mid tier type character that was around iron man level (in some suits like bleeding edge he could beat her). Her character was never really created to be up there in power with characters like Thor, Hulk or Sentry.. hell even the original Male captain marvel before danvers was weak sauce in comparison to them and her powers are derived from him...
Despite being able to make her as powerful as they want in the MCU due to it being it's own seperate thing from the comics, I pray that they dont give us a fucking marry sue that makes the rest of the avengers irrelevant or some nonsense along the lines
@@150Hello Rhodey lowkey called out Captain Marvel's bullshit in the Trailer so I doubt that
Wait till you watch Endgame and see her battle Thanos
@@cjevan9837 thank fk she didn't
If they made her a villian I would completely take back eterything I said about CM
She would still be a pretty boring character.
@@headlesshunter8435 she would be vilain that would do bad things in the name of righteous thinking she was doing something good for the world
@@xaviaxs still not a good villain, nothing memorable, not funny not menacing not scary, just a villain. Boring in my opinion
@@headlesshunter8435 Why would you think that? Just curious.
@@titel9870 because the trope of authoritarianism is bad is so common in villains it's just a little boring. But it would still be leagues better than how she is now
Plot Twist: She’s actually Homelander’s sister who was sent to the Marvel universe for a Vought experiment
When ghost rider penance stare it didn't work on her, but she has done some pretty messed things. On Thanos it also didn't work beacuse he had no remorse
And he has done also some horrible things. You see the connection.
She has no remorse
Idk why that wouldn't work on her lame excuse to make her seem more powerful
Edit: oh vuz she has no remorse
And only a handful of other people have either ignored or resisted the power of the pentence stare one of said people being Deadpool who when it is done to him only see the Highlight Reel of all the awesome stuff he did his own words not mine.
Lol she killed Tony and felt no remorse for her actions.
The reason she has no remorse is because she thinks she’s right with all of her actions, she basically has convinced herself that everything she does is for the greater good.
*Stan lee is. He is the most powerful hero in the MCU.
And DC.
warren byrne Why DC?
@@greatlife1047 Well he is the most powerful character of all time right?
warren byrne Well, I don’t really know. Considering Superman is one of the strongest DC superheroes and hasn’t really used his full strength most of the time so...
@@greatlife1047 Sorry it was just a joke.
Why is it that they call Captain Marvel the most powerful Marvel hero they conveniently gloss over the GOD OF THUNDER???
They think making her the most powerful will automatically make people like her.
What Scarlett witch? She has the power of one the stones. Why isn't she over powered? 🤔🤔
@@thekingacc4659 and thats the thing. Wandas powers are directly from a stone while captain marvels power comes from an engine powered by a stone and not directly from the stone itself. To me it seems like they decided that they already built up a reputation and they can just do whatever they want and get lazy from here on out.
@@thekingacc4659 Yeah. She even DESTROYED an Infinity Stone. That sounds op to me.
Mumbler Ogre nah they glossed over Squirrel Girl completely
Nah. She has „strength” so she might be the “strongest” but Thor, DR. Strange, Wanda now. And a few more have a LOT more POWER.
Yes.
"in the comics she's not that great a person"
I was wrong when I said Brie Larson wasn't a good pick for Carol Danvers
Hah
Why everyone hate Brie Larson ?
@PeachyBee she isn't, she upset people for saying that we need more representation and now everyone hates her. Add in that she is a successful liberal woman and everyone hates her even more.
@@starbreaker6441 no she isn’t, she just advocates for representation and fragile men like you don’t like that
@@PetalsFourArmor i dont think she's doing it right since as a girl it doesnt feel like she is
Well this only proves that Brie Larson was a great choice. The most unlikable character in the Marvel Universe. Yet they still thought she was needed in the Marvel movies.
It could have been worse. Imagine the Sentry in the MCU. A Superman-type so bat-shit crazy he's his own literal worst enemy. (The Void? I think it was a manifestation of his "dark side") Trust me, Carol can die or just leave the planet. But Sentry would be much worse.
@@ericpeterson8732 They could always merge MCU Carol with Sentry's character lol.
eric peterson
Lol Sentry is Waaay better than Captain marvel.
Thor is the most powerful hero tho.
In the comics when the avengers fight thanos part , Thanos made thor so old but thor said savagely ''We Gods Get So Much Powerful If
We Age'', thor almost defeated thanos but thanos made him back to his normal age...
Runch Randa wasn’t that the Avengers asamble cartoon? I love the show but still
But it was already said numerous times they are NOT gods. Ffs Odin himself said "we are not gods"
The comics are a different universe, I don’t like it either but the creators of the MCU have complete say over the canon in the MCU, if Feige she’s the most powerful in the MCU, she’s the most powerful in the MCU.
Why didn't Thanos turn him into a baby?
Dr strange and scarlett witch are stronger
Let’s just say DC’s Captain Marvel and Marvels Captain Marvel are polar opposites. One is an arrogant Karan, the other is 14 year old boy 😂😂
one is actually enjoyable to watch lol
If she fights Thor and wins I will actually be mad
samedt.
Oof
Nobody cares lol
Alexandre Cardoso Silva
Nobody might carne but a lot of people sure do care lol.
@@nicegoatdoctor8224 what a dweeb
"Everytime someone tries to stop a catastrophe before it happens innocent people die. Every. Single. Time."
- Captain America
Wrong, dont act smart the real quote can be found so easily in the wiki...
i honest hope to god that she becomes a vilan cause overpowered hero in MCU doesnt sound fun.
Bish we have Scarlet Witch. That's not gonna be a problem
Just sic blue marvel on her.
Im sure as hell thor sounds fun
@@kittyplayz1480 exactly! like Vision & Scarlet Witch wasn't op in the Civil War movie. They're powered by infinity stone, just like Carol. So it makes sense. Idk why people don't get that
*cough* Thor *cough*
Surely a photon blast would just be a bright beam of light
I want MCU Captain Marvel to have authoritarian anti due process beliefs in the beginning but then go though an arc where she realizes how damaging and paranoid that mindset really is.
Lol u want the feminists to have ur head?
@@diogenesbarrel7350
They aren't coming for it already?
@@JonGreen91 neptune save us
No, show how destructive it is. Have it be a "hero" movie with the worst ending possible.
@@thomascook3336 Marvel might think it was actually a good ending...
I’ve always thought of her as more of an enforcer than a hero. Like an intergalactic space cop
Definitely.
Change that to Space Karen and you get Captain Marvel perfectly.
Why would space Karen fly around and enforce people in the darkest place of all? Space. Since she is a Karen after all she'd spend all day shooting at space and yelling "Stop harassing me and my children!"
@@commandercruel8231 thats what shes doing. She thinks you are a bad person because someone said so and so you are cancelled and should be put to jail.
If i want space cops,then i'd watch Power Rangers SPD
No,
Fat Thor is the most powerful
Iron Bra Yeessss HE IS AMAZING 😆😆😆❤️❤️❤️❤️
No, Noobmaster69 is deadlier.
@@tau-5794 noobmaster69 could go 1v1 with thelegend27
His name is the big lebowski
Iron Bra no noobmaster69 is most powerful
Captain marvel: kill many innocent lives
People: hey they didn’t do any bad! Your the bad guy!
Captain marvel: *T o o B a d F o r T h e m*
*"You are under arrest for commiting a thought crime"*
In that case, place me in an insane asylum.
Voivoda Dracula is it even considered a thought crime? I doubt miles would ever think of killing cap
thot crimes
More like being punished for existing
*thought
Isn’t Scarlet Witch still more powerful than Captain Marvel in the MCU?
yomp.
Yes. So is Thor, but Kevin Figue doesn't care.
Yes. Yes she is.
Isn't Doctor Strange stronger than all the Avengers with Time Stone in the MCU?
@@JhonFeliciano that would depend on the circumstances.
10:45
- What kind of justice declares guilt first and asks questions later?
- Social justice!
alexanderwsm America
You forgot the "Warrior"
@@djeetayeet2813
I've seen them fight, they are not worthy of the definition of warrior, they are cowards and bullies.
Since when do they even bother asking questions even after the fact
Justice in the age of social media.
I like how he said "She can do this, this, and this" while he showed what can Captain Marvel do.