The moral of the story is, We all need to carry 4 firemen and a fire blanket whenever we go for a pleasure drive, in line with common practice. Problem solved. Glad you like it.
Lol, stop complaining, it's progress, just months ago you would need a skip full of water and a crane. I really don't care, wouldn't buy one, wouldn't even get in a taxi if it's EV. But I'm not as brave/stupid/gullable as most people, I wouldn't take the EXPERIMENTAL MRNA GENE THERAPY injections either. You can't fix gullable but they can euthanase it by instalments or cremate it in an EV😮
If they had left the blanket there, the car would have passed the test. I'm sure they removed it just to gather more data. In a real life situation, they wouldn't have.
They would have had to leave the blanket on the car for many hours, but if the weather is particulary cold, like snow everywhere, only 6 hours or so, to be safe ! @@chubstheclown
everyone is forgetting the purpose of the blanket... to CONTAIN the fire so it doesn't spread and burn everything else down around it... you can put the blanket on yourself, you don't need 4 firemen... the blanket does a great job of keeping the flames down. While the fire is contained rush and call the fire dept and you just kept your house from burning down while they get to you...
Not to mention what the weight of these vehicles are going to do to our streets and roadways. When you get in a wreck with one it’s going to be like getting slammed into by a train. The smoke from these fires are highly toxic.
Right now it's like a 50/50 probability that you'll get hit by an SUV as opposed to a small car. If everyone is driving EVs then it would be 100% chance. But why worry?
I suggest this is all very well for containing the fire, but from the "deprivation of oxygen" point of view, I suggest the lithium fire makes its own oxygen. The blanket might help a bit, but basically you still gave to wait for the fire to use all of its "fuel" up.
That smoke is still probably toxic as hell. And it’ll still probably be at risk of reignighting for weeks after. Want the fire done? Pulverize the car, douse in water and wait for the pyrotechnics to stop.
it is interesting that the fire blanket had to be applied for 40 hours. And the battery could still re-ignite. Blanket did not put out the fire - it merely contained the smoke and flame, and reduced the temperature as because the flames could not rise and cover the car's sheet metal, the sheet metal temperature dropped.
@@scarecrow8004 You are right - it was 40 minutes. I had noticed the video ran speeded up, but it was not as sped up as I had thought. However it is known that it can take lithium batteries well in excess of 24 hours to burn themselves out
The color isn't directly indicative of absolute temperature. It's just a color scale that the FLIR (Forward looking infrared) camera uses to define differences in temperature. i.e. red= hottest blue = coolest.
I’ve seen videos where firefighters have been dousing the fire with water and then the battery blows up….. and to suggest they get near it to apply a blanket to smother the fire?
Basically forever, until you have the correct extinguisher. It is lithium you are dealing with here, which is an alkali metal. All alkali metals react violently with oxygen, and can even leech oxygen out of water, making them oxidizers. So you cannot put out the fire permanently, unless you either cover the vehicle in a specific type of oil (which is used to transport lithium from one location to another) or a chemical fire retardent foam, such as the stuff used to put out airplane fires or an ABC fire extinguisher. If you try to use water on an electric vehicle it will just make things worse.
@@lordpalandus11 ABC extinguisher will not stop it. I think there a different letter specific for Lithium fires. I just bought some, and it doesn't stop these fire. I think it's "D" designated.
@@ex8280 That is interesting. Because I thought A is for normal fires, B is electrical fires, and C is for chemical fires. And lithium is a bit of B and a bit of C. I might be mixing up the letters though.
Electric bike in for repair or service at a dealership in my local village S. Vietnam caught fire. The mechanics managed to move into the roadway. A neighboring builder's merchant dumped a digger bucket of sand on the fire. This smothered the fire and put it out. So, all EVs should tow a trailer loaded with sand and a shovel. Just like boats have to carry fire extinguishers.
@@sarahann530 Do electric cars get their electricity from an overhead wire like the train (which has no battery), or are you just an incredibly dishonest person bringing up irrelevant arguments to confuse the matter?
@@sarahann530 No-one is arguing with that. I'm talking specifically about the one in the Eurotunnel, given that's the one you already talking about. You and I both know it's NOT a battery-train, but as previously mentioned, you seem to be a incredibly dishonest person, which explains why you're STILL trying to obfuscate the facts, even when directly confronted. Sheesh. Some people have no shame. Your point about the train is irrelivant, coz it doesn't have a dangerous super-flammable lithium battery like an EV. Have some dignity and admit it.
One time i was driving on i10 in New Mexico and a car started smoking. I was on the frontage road so I stopped to video a fire truck pulled up with just one guy so I put down my phone and helped him setup. That car was completely destroyed in about ten minutes. It was a gasoline car fire. Any car fire is going to be a bad fire.
The other option is after they contain the major runaway reaction, there have some good testing of dropping the car in salt water. After the battery cools down, there is still stranded energy in the batteries. The saltwater will allow the batteries to discharge the remaining energy into the water instead.
Ahhh. So, we all need to purchase a big tanker truck (which presumably the wife drives) with a crane on it to follow us on our drive to the beach? Problem solved👍👍
No, the research was done on supercooled brine at 14C to 17C below freezing. That works. Brine at ambient temperature short-circuits fuel cells and Leeds to thermal runaway. EV battery packs can burn underwater, because they do not require ambient oxygen.
Blanket does not work. Explosive gases are contained by the blanket as fire fighters pull blanket around the vehicle they are seriously exposed to explosions.Electric batteries proved all that is necessary for fire and smothering a battery will not stop the reaction of the chemicals in the battery . Water , blankets or foam have been tested they don’t work in emergency situations. Gas vehicles catch fire but those fires can be extinguished and not reignite a month later . Electric vehicles were promising not so much anymore for me .
What I take away from this video is "No, this blanket doesn't extinguish the fire, as oxygen will still react with it." EV's apparently need an emergency foam spray system installed; more money, more weight, your life isn't worth it. - Every CEO ever
@@jimthompson8947 Agreed. Perhaps the EV makers need to invent a means of extinguishing their products before they're allowed to proceed. Even better, maybe this should have been required from the get-go. It's a real problem.
In a ternary Li Ion battery (e.g. NCA, NCM etc), the metallic oxides in the battery cathode breakdown on heating and release oxygen during thermal runaway, so these batteries can burn without external oxygen.... That's why the blanket didn't stop the battery burning, although it probably prevented the rest of the car burning.... With Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO) batteries this apparently doesn't happen. So they can still go into thermal runaway, and release flammable gas and vapour, but they don't get as hot, and don't produce their own oxygen, so are safer.....
What happens when the rapidly expanding event occurs? The blanket won't save you. Its not like you have firemen in your back pocket, so with the response time of Fire Services the fire event will already have reached its crescendo and they will just have to mop-up the mess!
A great device. Well done. Im not sure about the possibility of gas and oxygen building from the batteries which could cause a small explosion due to containment
Yeah, it didn't stop the battery burning, but it did seem to stop the rest of the car burning. It might help to contain it while the battery burns itself out, which could reduce the damage.......
To the surrounding area. That car is totaled. If that smoke is really as toxic as people say then it's embedded into that car and you don't want to drive it anymore.
@@josephwheeler1 Yes, I'd say the car itself would be a wreck after the battery burnt itself out, but if the hundreds of kilos of hydrocarbons in the plastic etc. in the rest of the vehicle is prevented from burning, that's a whole lot less heat released, and potentially a whole lot of damage to nearby structures, other cars etc. prevented... Might also help to contain some of the toxic byproducts of the battery fire (cobalt, hydroflouric acid etc.).
But it can re-start as soon as the blanket is removed but no one will now renew their insurance when the damage could be as much as your house or a full Tesco style supermarket with people burned alive especially if it happened at the front! Massive crowd storm trying to escape and the cost of damages/liabilities in a class action law/suites would bankrupt any insurance, and for what? The measly premium on ONE EV? Total madness? the underwriters would be brain/dead to accept!’
What a freakin’ disaster these things will be on our roads and in our garages. I can only imagine the mandates / regulations which will undoubtedly spawn from every other house on the street burning to the ground due to these time bombs. But give the people what they ask for. $30K for a new battery every three years. It’s all good. Everyone has several thousand dollars laying around for this.
The battery will last the lifetime of the car with tesla’s with over 200 thousand miles on them with 5 to 10 percent degradation and if there was a problem in three years it would be replaced free as they are guaranteed for eight years the ev battery fires are much much very rare your much more likely to have an ice fire than an ev fire
EV battery-fires are very rare, an ICE car has 19 times the risk of burning than an EV. An ICE fire is also much more likely to be bigger and spred to objects near than an EV fire! You sir, are very poorly informed and educated in this field! It is also very hard to set fire to a car battery , as this video shows. If the had done the same to an ICE car, put a tub with burning gas under, the fire an explosion would have been much more dangerous! EV batteries don't ever explode, but gas tanks often does in a fire!
The thing is has anyone actually seen an ev fire maybe on UA-cam but that’s probably it personally I drive up and down the motorway and seen plenty of ice car fires on the hard shoulder but never an ev and to be fair now there are plenty on the road where I live now.
Much better environmentally than application of water,but this will not extinguish the combustion,merely contain it.Once initiated,these fires will only die out when they consume all of the product or the product is brought to a temperature that is below its ignition threshold.The most prevalent policy now is to allow the material to burn itself out while protecting adjacent property.
There should be a law that every parking lot must have these blankets on hand so that when an EV or Hybrid ignites, the attendants can isolate the burning car with a blanket to protect the nearby cars from igniting as well. That parking structure at the Luton airport had 1,500 cars destroyed all from one diesel Hybrid Range Rover that ignited.
What attendants ?This whole fiasco of EV`s gets worse by the day. Now major insurance company has refused to insure them and others have increased premiums by upto 500%.This drive to net zero needs thorough re think.
Not something I'd do for the pay normal parking lot Attendants are paid. EV battery fires are highly toxic and dangerous. If you get any the dust/smoke on your skin you can be burned. If you breath it in you can very easily get lung damage or die... IF you see an EV on fire leave, don't try to help, don't' record the picture just leave the area.
All the reports I can find make NO mention of the Range Rover being a hybrid, Just a Diesel and the AA report that the majority of vehicle fires are due to the 12v battery having a fault.
Imagine an EV is parked against the wall in the basement of a residential condo. It spontaneously catches fire. 30 seconds after this, security guards realised this and rushed to the scene, two floors down. By that time thick toxic smoke is already spewing from the car on fire. A blazing Fire is spitting out from all directions under the car. The guards cannot even approach the car due heat and thick smoke. In this case, how can one simple fire blanket alone be effectively employed to smother out the fire?
That video didn't even show thermal runaway. Because when it does, the battery has its own oxygen, so the blanket would have been no use. Also the battery acts like a giant blowtorch.
Not really. Lithium takes a long time to reach the point where it is no longer reactive to oxygen (it forms a layer of rust essentially, just not rust-rust (which is ferric oxide)). However, unless you put some kind of fire retardent on it, it can burn for 24 hours or more, depending on how fast the runaway goes. A regular car fire, will burn itself out in about an hour or so, or less, and if you cut off its supply of oxygen, it will go out faster. But any un-reacted lithium the moment it is reintroduced to air, would immediately combust. That is why when they transport lithium, or any alkali metal (ie potassium or sodium), they have to put it in a special, nonreactive oil, otherwise they'd also combust.
@@lordpalandus11 there's no metallic lithium in a Li Ion battery - it's all in compounds with other elements - mostly in Li salts in the electrolyte. What burns is the organic solvent in the electrolyte, and plastic etc. in the separators, with oxygen provided by the breakdown of metallic oxides in the cathode....
It slows it down as the oxygen it produces itself is far less than the fire could potentially use as it includes other combustible material from the car than the battery. That said it will always reignite the second the blanket is removed no matter how much time passes far as I know. Maybe months of a "slow burn" might do the trick while covered but there is a reason that the solution most fire departments have is to always put EV's into a vat of water for transport. Even if they think it went out.
The insurance premiums should continue to rise. Soon insurance could exceed rent or mortgage. Imagine an EV fire in the garage under a skyscraper. Building owners will prohibit EV parking as a condition to insure the building. Insurance companies are free not to insure against certain risks.
WOW I do not remember special techniques to put car fires out when I gasoline engines. Go green they say I am guessing all the black smoke and chemicals from these ev fires are doing wonders for the environment yeah I will stick to petrol.
Why not just build EV's with a fire blanket covering it as standard and just put a windscreen in the front. I would not want one anywhere near me, I even keep my distance from them when in traffic jams. BBB
I think the point is not to save a car, which is almost never an option when the fire department is called because of a carfire. The point is how to get the fire out in a quick and safe way. Normal method is to use thousands of gallons of water.
This video proves conclusively, that the current EV battery is extremely dangerous! An Ev battery can go into a thermal runaway and end up in flames in seconds if any of the following occurs: 1) overcharging the battery when its full 2) Charging the battery at too high a rate 3) a short circuit in the battery itself: that can come from something damaging the circuit in a crash, or a sudden impact causing the metal contacts to come loose and short out. 4) the charge controller being faulty. Thus; in a summary: current EV's are just too unacceptably dangerous to own! A little tip to would be murderers out there, step 1) get the one to be murdered to drive a Tesla, step 2) Smash into the rear of the car, wait for the smoke to come out from underneath, if no smoke, ram the Tesla again. Step 3) step on it and get the hell out of there. It is advisab;le to have false number plates on the car that does the ramming. Step 4) Job done because Tesla will keep the victim inside ! Does this all sound too far fetched, too gruesome, unfortunately children, this is true!
What are the freakin democrats brains, the average wright for a ev us usually 1000 or more heavier then the gas models, you have more to worry anout than battery fires, hat is all this extra weight doing to our roads and briges.
I AM GOING TO KEEP MY GAS POWERED TRUCK. THIS EV CRAP IS A JOKE AND WON'T LAST LONG. SOON BATTERIES WILL BE SO EXPENXIVE. ONLY ELON WILL BE ABLE TO AFFORD ONE.
Total rubbish - most new batteries have removed the thermal runaway by design and prices are dropping. Let us know when you cave in and save yourself thousands by buying a cheap electric vehicle!! LOL. - we promise not to laugh at you!!!
Finally there is a usecase for 1sr gen Nissan Leafs.
The moral of the story is,
We all need to carry 4 firemen and a fire blanket whenever we go for a pleasure drive, in line with common practice.
Problem solved.
Glad you like it.
Lol, stop complaining, it's progress, just months ago you would need a skip full of water and a crane.
I really don't care, wouldn't buy one, wouldn't even get in a taxi if it's EV.
But I'm not as brave/stupid/gullable as most people, I wouldn't take the EXPERIMENTAL MRNA GENE THERAPY injections either.
You can't fix gullable but they can euthanase it by instalments or cremate it in an EV😮
Who puts out an ICE vehicle fire ?
@@sarahann530
Anyone with a chemical fire extinguisher.
@bearup1612 So no need for the fire dept to attend car fires
Only if you bought a EV car .............
Blanket passed the test?! But not the car
If they had left the blanket there, the car would have passed the test. I'm sure they removed it just to gather more data. In a real life situation, they wouldn't have.
They would have had to leave the blanket on the car for many hours, but if the weather is particulary cold, like snow everywhere, only 6 hours or so, to be safe ! @@chubstheclown
everyone is forgetting the purpose of the blanket... to CONTAIN the fire so it doesn't spread and burn everything else down around it... you can put the blanket on yourself, you don't need 4 firemen... the blanket does a great job of keeping the flames down. While the fire is contained rush and call the fire dept and you just kept your house from burning down while they get to you...
Not to mention what the weight of these vehicles are going to do to our streets and roadways. When you get in a wreck with one it’s going to be like getting slammed into by a train. The smoke from these fires are highly toxic.
With regard to weight, SUVs are already doing what you describe. Why worry now?
These rumbling through small villages will have the same effect as a lorry
@@PaulJR-hp2qm I've been saying for decades that SUVs shouldn't be allowed with 150km of any city center, unless you're a farmer and it's market day.
Right now it's like a 50/50 probability that you'll get hit by an SUV as opposed to a small car. If everyone is driving EVs then it would be 100% chance. But why worry?
Nothing but trolls here
I suggest this is all very well for containing the fire, but from the "deprivation of oxygen" point of view, I suggest the lithium fire makes its own oxygen. The blanket might help a bit, but basically you still gave to wait for the fire to use all of its "fuel" up.
That smoke is still probably toxic as hell. And it’ll still probably be at risk of reignighting for weeks after. Want the fire done? Pulverize the car, douse in water and wait for the pyrotechnics to stop.
That’s impressive. Perhaps all electric car manufacturers should include a fire blanket with the sale of an electric car .
Wow that thermal cover should be standard equipment in the storage area of ALL electric vehicles?
it is interesting that the fire blanket had to be applied for 40 hours. And the battery could still re-ignite.
Blanket did not put out the fire - it merely contained the smoke and flame, and reduced the temperature as because the flames could not rise and cover the car's sheet metal, the sheet metal temperature dropped.
I believe that was more on the order of 40 minutes, not hours.
@@scarecrow8004 You are right - it was 40 minutes. I had noticed the video ran speeded up, but it was not as sped up as I had thought. However it is known that it can take lithium batteries well in excess of 24 hours to burn themselves out
They sent for my plates after I failed to follow an air bag recall. EVs with current battery technology are more of a danger than fragmenting airbags.
In 50 years I never had a car with a warrantee. If "they" came for my plates, it might be the last thing "they" ever did.
@@malcolmhamilton5200with you on that. I paid for them. Come try to take them.
Interesting that the intense heat didn't 'lift' the blanket and all four tyres were still inflated..............
Where were they taking the temperature from? The thermal image looked just as red at over 1,000 degrees as it did at just a 100 degrees.
The color isn't directly indicative of absolute temperature. It's just a color scale that the FLIR (Forward looking infrared) camera uses to define differences in temperature. i.e. red= hottest blue = coolest.
When your burning up do you say by fuck it’s getting hotter
Couldn’t help but notice when they took the blanket off the ties weren’t burning. That indicates the fire wasn’t as hot as they reported…
I’ve seen videos where firefighters have been dousing the fire with water and then the battery blows up….. and to suggest they get near it to apply a blanket to smother the fire?
Yeah, just remember to pack a full Hazmat suit in your EV or even better, wear one whenever you're driving. Not too much to ask is it?
@@DD-ld1xq lol, at the bare minimum a chemical burn kit in case you take a bath in electrolytes🙃
It’s the water that makes them explode.
Is there a blanket available in xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxl for car ferry’s?
For how Long period of time do you need to Keep the blanket on before there is no risk of reignition of the batteryfire?
Basically forever, until you have the correct extinguisher. It is lithium you are dealing with here, which is an alkali metal. All alkali metals react violently with oxygen, and can even leech oxygen out of water, making them oxidizers. So you cannot put out the fire permanently, unless you either cover the vehicle in a specific type of oil (which is used to transport lithium from one location to another) or a chemical fire retardent foam, such as the stuff used to put out airplane fires or an ABC fire extinguisher. If you try to use water on an electric vehicle it will just make things worse.
@@lordpalandus11
Foam doesn't work either.
@@lordpalandus11 ABC extinguisher will not stop it. I think there a different letter specific for Lithium fires. I just bought some, and it doesn't stop these fire. I think it's "D" designated.
@@ex8280 That is interesting. Because I thought A is for normal fires, B is electrical fires, and C is for chemical fires. And lithium is a bit of B and a bit of C. I might be mixing up the letters though.
@@lordpalandus11 a is for paper, b is for oils c is for electrical. Electrical.unfortinately does not include lithium ion battery.
Electric bike in for repair or service at a dealership in my local village S. Vietnam caught fire. The mechanics managed to move into the roadway. A neighboring builder's merchant dumped a digger bucket of sand on the fire. This smothered the fire and put it out.
So, all EVs should tow a trailer loaded with sand and a shovel. Just like boats have to carry fire extinguishers.
The shovels will most probably melt due go the extreme heat-a comedy on wheels!
I have yet to get an answer to my questions to Eurotunnel operators on how they will successfully manage a thermal runaway on Le Shuttle.
The train is electric , are you worried about it catching fire ?
@@sarahann530 Is this a humorous comment or are you actually thick ?
@@sarahann530 Do electric cars get their electricity from an overhead wire like the train (which has no battery), or are you just an incredibly dishonest person bringing up irrelevant arguments to confuse the matter?
@robotnoir5299 Some electric Trans get power from over head lines but most do not . They have on board generators which power the electric motors .
@@sarahann530 No-one is arguing with that. I'm talking specifically about the one in the Eurotunnel, given that's the one you already talking about.
You and I both know it's NOT a battery-train, but as previously mentioned, you seem to be a incredibly dishonest person, which explains why you're STILL trying to obfuscate the facts, even when directly confronted. Sheesh. Some people have no shame.
Your point about the train is irrelivant, coz it doesn't have a dangerous super-flammable lithium battery like an EV. Have some dignity and admit it.
One time i was driving on i10 in New Mexico and a car started smoking. I was on the frontage road so I stopped to video a fire truck pulled up with just one guy so I put down my phone and helped him setup. That car was completely destroyed in about ten minutes. It was a gasoline car fire. Any car fire is going to be a bad fire.
The other option is after they contain the major runaway reaction, there have some good testing of dropping the car in salt water. After the battery cools down, there is still stranded energy in the batteries. The saltwater will allow the batteries to discharge the remaining energy into the water instead.
As soon as you pick it up to put it into the mythical salt water bath it will reignite. And how do you get 10 tonne of salty water to the site.
Ahhh.
So, we all need to purchase a big tanker truck (which presumably the wife drives) with a crane on it to follow us on our drive to the beach?
Problem solved👍👍
No, the research was done on supercooled brine at 14C to 17C below freezing. That works.
Brine at ambient temperature short-circuits fuel cells and Leeds to thermal runaway.
EV battery packs can burn underwater, because they do not require ambient oxygen.
Blanket does not work. Explosive gases are contained by the blanket as fire fighters pull blanket around the vehicle they are seriously exposed to explosions.Electric batteries proved all that is necessary for fire and smothering a battery will not stop the reaction of the chemicals in the battery .
Water , blankets or foam have been tested they don’t work in emergency situations.
Gas vehicles catch fire but those fires can be extinguished and not reignite a month later .
Electric vehicles were promising not so much anymore for me .
So, the car reignites as soon as the blanket is removed? Assuming the blanket stays on long enough, does the fire risk completely abate?
What I take away from this video is "No, this blanket doesn't extinguish the fire, as oxygen will still react with it." EV's apparently need an emergency foam spray system installed; more money, more weight, your life isn't worth it. - Every CEO ever
@@jimthompson8947 Agreed. Perhaps the EV makers need to invent a means of extinguishing their products before they're allowed to proceed. Even better, maybe this should have been required from the get-go. It's a real problem.
The thermal blanket only cover the fire and smoke but the batteries will continue burning till all the energy is consumed
And if there is more than a light breeze you can't use it.
Something very strange that. A Li battery doesn't need oxygen to sustain itself
It breaks down its own oxygen containing chemicals to supply the fire with oxygen
In a ternary Li Ion battery (e.g. NCA, NCM etc), the metallic oxides in the battery cathode breakdown on heating and release oxygen during thermal runaway, so these batteries can burn without external oxygen....
That's why the blanket didn't stop the battery burning, although it probably prevented the rest of the car burning....
With Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO) batteries this apparently doesn't happen. So they can still go into thermal runaway, and release flammable gas and vapour, but they don't get as hot, and don't produce their own oxygen, so are safer.....
@@fb3824 : it's a chemicle fire , google it ......
Or... don't buy an EV until the battery fire risk is more manageable.
Chinese sodium ion battery, is in mass production. They are very safe.
BYD's blade battery has been installed on many European EV cars.
@@matrixbug
BYD's battery😂😂😂😂
That will be probably never.
It never will be with lithium batteries.
Just dont buy a EV car .........
Burn though roads melting the tarmac meaning massive road repairs for one incident,totally shutting down a whole motorway for days
What happens when the rapidly expanding event occurs? The blanket won't save you. Its not like you have firemen in your back pocket, so with the response time of Fire Services the fire event will already have reached its crescendo and they will just have to mop-up the mess!
and I'm sure the blanket doesn't deal with all the toxic chemicals. also the battery can still reignite.
Good, but then it needs further gasses pumped under the blanket such at Nitrogen?
A great device. Well done. Im not sure about the possibility of gas and oxygen building from the batteries which could cause a small explosion due to containment
Ev's are serious fire hazards. Just to be safe, I won't park next to one.
I wonder how good that smoke is for you.
It is highly toxic. It will kill you eventually.
Curious, what is the effect of breathing that stuff?
It's obviously good for you, those nice politicians told us these are good for the environment
You need to be told what's wrong with breathing in smoke?
worse than breathing exhaust fumes that is for sure.
@@PURENTnot all smoke is created equal
No commentary and no explanation in the description.
If there was some point to this video I have no idea what it was.
There's a UA-cam video of a Tesla on fire underwater and it won't go out!
Nissan leaf as a small battery what about a big car battery.?
Film cuts out to advertise the fire blanket for sale.
Doesn’t show it never did stop the fire re ignition a third time
There is a flaw in that the battery is on the ground not in the vehicle so their is no air circulating
Interesting at over 1,000 C the tires hadn't popped yet
Does it come with the car?
A rather radical way to exterminate an infestation of bugs in the car!
I fail to see how that works when a lithium battery fire does not require oxygen to burn due to lithium salts being self oxidizing
maybe the idea is to contain the fire so it doesn't spread to other EV vehicles and cause them to use up their supply of expensive blankets.
Yeah, it didn't stop the battery burning, but it did seem to stop the rest of the car burning.
It might help to contain it while the battery burns itself out, which could reduce the damage.......
To the surrounding area. That car is totaled. If that smoke is really as toxic as people say then it's embedded into that car and you don't want to drive it anymore.
@@josephwheeler1 Yes, I'd say the car itself would be a wreck after the battery burnt itself out, but if the hundreds of kilos of hydrocarbons in the plastic etc. in the rest of the vehicle is prevented from burning, that's a whole lot less heat released, and potentially a whole lot of damage to nearby structures, other cars etc. prevented...
Might also help to contain some of the toxic byproducts of the battery fire (cobalt, hydroflouric acid etc.).
it's to reduce collateral damage ........
It's a great invention! Now you can't see the people inside the car getting incinerated!
But it can re-start as soon as the blanket is removed but no one will now renew their insurance when the damage could be as much as your house or a full Tesco style supermarket with people burned alive especially if it happened at the front! Massive crowd storm trying to escape and the cost of damages/liabilities in a class action law/suites would bankrupt any insurance, and for what? The measly premium on ONE EV? Total madness? the underwriters would be brain/dead to accept!’
What a freakin’ disaster these things will be on our roads and in our garages. I can only imagine the mandates / regulations which will undoubtedly spawn from every other house on the street burning to the ground due to these time bombs. But give the people what they ask for. $30K for a new battery every three years. It’s all good. Everyone has several thousand dollars laying around for this.
The battery will last the lifetime of the car with tesla’s with over 200 thousand miles on them with 5 to 10 percent degradation and if there was a problem in three years it would be replaced free as they are guaranteed for eight years the ev battery fires are much much very rare your much more likely to have an ice fire than an ev fire
Lol like gasoline doesn't explode
Would you then risk your life for a stupid fact like that!?
EV battery-fires are very rare, an ICE car has 19 times the risk of burning than an EV. An ICE fire is also much more likely to be bigger and spred to objects near than an EV fire! You sir, are very poorly informed and educated in this field! It is also very hard to set fire to a car battery , as this video shows. If the had done the same to an ICE car, put a tub with burning gas under, the fire an explosion would have been much more dangerous! EV batteries don't ever explode, but gas tanks often does in a fire!
The thing is has anyone actually seen an ev fire maybe on UA-cam but that’s probably it personally I drive up and down the motorway and seen plenty of ice car fires on the hard shoulder but never an ev and to be fair now there are plenty on the road where I live now.
EV now means Explosive Vehicles. 😢😢
Much better environmentally than application of water,but this will not extinguish the combustion,merely contain it.Once initiated,these fires will only die out when they consume all of the product or the product is brought to a temperature that is below its ignition threshold.The most prevalent policy now is to allow the material to burn itself out while protecting adjacent property.
Life span ?
There should be a law that every parking lot must have these blankets on hand so that when an EV or Hybrid ignites, the attendants can isolate the burning car with a blanket to protect the nearby cars from igniting as well. That parking structure at the Luton airport had 1,500 cars destroyed all from one diesel Hybrid Range Rover that ignited.
wrong.
Diesel doesnt ignite, that was CYA nonsense from the higher ups....
What attendants ?This whole fiasco of EV`s gets worse by the day. Now major insurance company has refused to insure them and others have increased premiums by upto 500%.This drive to net zero needs thorough re think.
@@brianjones7660 He said HYBRID diesel. Pretty sure diesel will ignite if it has a lithium battery on fire right next to it.
Not something I'd do for the pay normal parking lot Attendants are paid. EV battery fires are highly toxic and dangerous. If you get any the dust/smoke on your skin you can be burned. If you breath it in you can very easily get lung damage or die... IF you see an EV on fire leave, don't try to help, don't' record the picture just leave the area.
All the reports I can find make NO mention of the Range Rover being a hybrid, Just a Diesel and the AA report that the majority of vehicle fires are due to the 12v battery having a fault.
Imagine an EV is parked against the wall in the basement of a residential condo. It spontaneously catches fire. 30 seconds after this, security guards realised this and rushed to the scene, two floors down. By that time thick toxic smoke is already spewing from the car on fire. A blazing Fire is spitting out from all directions under the car. The guards cannot even approach the car due heat and thick smoke. In this case, how can one simple fire blanket alone be effectively employed to smother out the fire?
So who gave the permission to roll out to the road?
It was not out! Lmfao maybe 6 hours later it'll go out
It that happens in your garage, you your house is totaled..the battery fumes will kill everything in your house.
That video didn't even show thermal runaway. Because when it does, the battery has its own oxygen, so the blanket would have been no use. Also the battery acts like a giant blowtorch.
That blanket needs to be much larger. That would not cover an F-150 Lightning.
Moral of the story you don’t need crash bags just fire blankets
fire blanket was pointless yet you try to sell it as a win.
The other option is don’t get one they are dangerous to us .
This is a nice utility, but I think we all know, deep inside, that this is impractical at-scale.
So you show a failure to extinguish a EV fire with a blanket then make the claim that these blankets are the solution for battery fires?
You wouldn't want to get near with the blanket because these things EXPLODE !
All that does is potentially limit the spread of the fire. Not much use if the burning EV is surrounded by other EVs or flammable objects.
Limiting the spread of fire is a big part of containing fires, in case you were not aware.
NO WATER OK
In theory, a fire blanket can smother a EV fire, but once you lift up the blanket, the fire reignites.
cool
It would have been nice to wait until the battery started its thermal runaway because otherwise its like a normal car fire.
it had started. that’s what the white smoke was from.
Not really. Lithium takes a long time to reach the point where it is no longer reactive to oxygen (it forms a layer of rust essentially, just not rust-rust (which is ferric oxide)). However, unless you put some kind of fire retardent on it, it can burn for 24 hours or more, depending on how fast the runaway goes. A regular car fire, will burn itself out in about an hour or so, or less, and if you cut off its supply of oxygen, it will go out faster. But any un-reacted lithium the moment it is reintroduced to air, would immediately combust. That is why when they transport lithium, or any alkali metal (ie potassium or sodium), they have to put it in a special, nonreactive oil, otherwise they'd also combust.
according to the video the did wait until thermal runaway started before deploying the blanket
@@lordpalandus11 there's no metallic lithium in a Li Ion battery - it's all in compounds with other elements - mostly in Li salts in the electrolyte.
What burns is the organic solvent in the electrolyte, and plastic etc. in the separators, with oxygen provided by the breakdown of metallic oxides in the cathode....
You can’t smother a fire that makes its own oxygen. 🤨
It slows it down as the oxygen it produces itself is far less than the fire could potentially use as it includes other combustible material from the car than the battery. That said it will always reignite the second the blanket is removed no matter how much time passes far as I know. Maybe months of a "slow burn" might do the trick while covered but there is a reason that the solution most fire departments have is to always put EV's into a vat of water for transport. Even if they think it went out.
The insurance premiums should continue to rise. Soon insurance could exceed rent or mortgage. Imagine an EV fire in the garage under a skyscraper. Building owners will prohibit EV parking as a condition to insure the building. Insurance companies are free not to insure against certain risks.
Dose this mean that all EV's will have to carry a fire blanket 😁😁
comes out of the trunk like a convertible top.
Expensive fireworks.
WOW I do not remember special techniques to put car fires out when I gasoline engines. Go green they say I am guessing all the black smoke and chemicals from these ev fires are doing wonders for the environment yeah I will stick to petrol.
Great. Now everyone can have their own chernobyl on wheels.
These EV's are safe and effective.
Why not just build EV's with a fire blanket covering it as standard and just put a windscreen in the front.
I would not want one anywhere near me, I even keep my distance from them when in traffic jams.
BBB
The car is totaled any way
I think the point is not to save a car, which is almost never an option when the fire department is called because of a carfire. The point is how to get the fire out in a quick and safe way. Normal method is to use thousands of gallons of water.
They are working on new battery composition to make them safe.
and effective
**THE BLANKED FAILED!!**
This video proves conclusively, that the current EV battery is extremely dangerous! An Ev battery can go into a thermal runaway and end up in flames in seconds if any of the following occurs: 1) overcharging the battery when its full 2) Charging the battery at too high a rate 3) a short circuit in the battery itself: that can come from something damaging the circuit in a crash, or a sudden impact causing the metal contacts to come loose and short out. 4) the charge controller being faulty. Thus; in a summary: current EV's are just too unacceptably dangerous to own!
A little tip to would be murderers out there, step 1) get the one to be murdered to drive a Tesla, step 2) Smash into the rear of the car, wait for the smoke to come out from underneath, if no smoke, ram the Tesla again. Step 3) step on it and get the hell out of there. It is advisab;le to have false number plates on the car that does the ramming. Step 4) Job done because Tesla will keep the victim inside ! Does this all sound too far fetched, too gruesome, unfortunately children, this is true!
Require ev drivers to wear a fire suit
Biden and Trudeau must go 🙏✌️🇨🇦🇺🇸🙏
What are the freakin democrats brains, the average wright for a ev us usually 1000 or more heavier then the gas models, you have more to worry anout than battery fires, hat is all this extra weight doing to our roads and briges.
Are those the same people who forget that humans breath out carbon?
SIMPLE, just don't buy an EV.
I AM GOING TO KEEP MY GAS POWERED TRUCK. THIS EV CRAP IS A JOKE AND WON'T LAST LONG. SOON BATTERIES WILL BE SO EXPENXIVE. ONLY ELON WILL BE ABLE TO AFFORD ONE.
Total rubbish - most new batteries have removed the thermal runaway by design and prices are dropping. Let us know when you cave in and save yourself thousands by buying a cheap electric vehicle!! LOL. - we promise not to laugh at you!!!