It's pretty cool until you start thinking about it more. Sure, he knew what she was going to say, but how exactly does he know *when* she's going to say her words? In what way does he know when to stop and when not to? When I started thinking about that it kinda ruined the scene for me.
@@kaneda7368 Time travel has a way of figuring itself out. The autocue could be running at a slow pace, or some other reason. It's a self fulfilling prophecy because it's already fact. The Doctor would deliver his lines how he felt he should and it would always be perfectly timed to Sally's reactions because it already happened. Cathy wouldn't have known the exact time for her grandson to deliver the letter, only an approximation, yet her guess was exactly correct, because it already happened.
@@kaneda7368 I think it's actually something like the bootstrap paradox, which is something talked about in a little Dr. Who mini-episode thing way way later. To put it simply, he was given the transcript and maybe even the tape and he recreated it but the very existence of it is a paradox. He didn't really create the tape or come up with the things on the transcript, it was created by a paradoxical situation where there is no real beginning event so everything sort of just pieced together, because if it didn't then the situation would've never happened. The angels zapping the Doctor back where and when they did created a strange paradox that sort of worked itself out. Also I mean, he knew he was creating a one sided conversation with someone, he could've made a reasonable estimate on how long it would take someone to say it at a normal pace and then respond when he thought was best. They can't really have a whole conversation where there's awkward, news room levels of delay between question and response because that would add up and waste screen time even though that would probably make more sense. Just gotta have some suspension of disbelief.
the most intense and scary scene ever, the mystery of it all, the build up, the shift and tone change probably the most sudden and psychological mind trickery ever, you can see the fear and worry in his face and eyes and his voice. in my opinion Doctor Who is never ever gonna have this horror feeling ever ever again the feelings we younglings all experienced waaay back watching this will never ever be found again the music, the sounds, the movement, the shadows, the wind truly truly terrifying and also delivering an ingenious time travel concept, then after all of this the jumpscare, the terrifying psychological chase and battle with your eyes and where to go absolutely brilliant episode truly one of New Who's best
How scary must it have been for the dude? Like Sally is hearing this for the first time, but this guy has been theorising over it fir ages. Thinking it’s harmless things like political statements or metaphors, memorising it word for word down to the period, only to realise what the Doctor is talking about is actually literal. Literal monsters that are faster than him and will kill him and that are lingering just outside the window before the Doctor even finished explaining.
I love Martha! I think a lot of people gave her a bad rap, but it was only because people thought she was trying to replace Rose too quickly. I also love that Martha was the one to choose to walk away from the Doctor, rather than wait.
This is my favorite Dr Who episode, one of the reasons being it deals with his time travelling with reference to his future travelling affecting the present time (from their point of view) of various people.
Someone in another comment section of this scene mentioned that the angels are still stone even when the two of them aren't looking at them, because the audience is, and I think that could also explain why the transcript ran out exactly when it did rather than being complete or nonexistent. In an earlier part of what the loop of the transcript being written, taken, and read out, we weren't there to watch the angels while Sally and Larry were communicating with the Doctor. Once the Doctor told them both about the angels' true nature and what they were planning, the angels probably panicked and quickly k!lled/time-zapped them before they could react.
People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but *actually* from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff.
Something like that is tried in later episodes. They're not really stone. It's a far stronger material and can't really be damaged except for some ridiculously powerful technology.
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The worst part is that I have a statue in my bathroom. I didn't know I had it until I came home after school and went in. The moment I went in there and saw the statue I didn't have to go any more...
People assume that time is a straight progression of cause-to-effect but ACTUALLY, from a nonlinear, nonsubjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey stuff.
God in 2007 when the angel came at them through the door when they werent looking, i s**t myself and jumped behind the couch! Weeping angels were the early SCP and Slenderman. I love doctor who, making me proud to be british
Weeping Angels and the gas mask kid is what freaks me out more then any thing ever to be in Doctor Who. When ever I see a Weeping angel I'm like this. O-O Not blinking....Back away slowly...
I guess it would make boring TV if every Weeping Angel episode went thusly.... "Oh no! The angels! They're here!!" "Well, now. Hand me that sledgehammer, will you?" ~15 minutes later~ "Well...that was surprisingly easy...." ~the end~
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3:42 How is he supposed to finish writing the transcript if he's not supposed to take his eyes off of the weeping angel ? and nobody's been looking at it the whole time the video was on before that ... it could have gotten them ...
i imagine they'd just somewhat lazily write around that by making the angels be made out of some kind of indestructible unknowable mystery stone from outer space.
Plus with the rapid pace of their conversation, followed by fleeing for their lives, how could he have remembered and written in what was said at the beginning?
Am I the only one that finds the concept of this scene more fascinating than the angels themselves?
It's pretty cool until you start thinking about it more. Sure, he knew what she was going to say, but how exactly does he know *when* she's going to say her words? In what way does he know when to stop and when not to? When I started thinking about that it kinda ruined the scene for me.
@@kaneda7368 He could've easily had a transcript that included the timings of everything
@@kaneda7368 Time travel has a way of figuring itself out. The autocue could be running at a slow pace, or some other reason. It's a self fulfilling prophecy because it's already fact. The Doctor would deliver his lines how he felt he should and it would always be perfectly timed to Sally's reactions because it already happened. Cathy wouldn't have known the exact time for her grandson to deliver the letter, only an approximation, yet her guess was exactly correct, because it already happened.
@@kaneda7368 I think it's actually something like the bootstrap paradox, which is something talked about in a little Dr. Who mini-episode thing way way later. To put it simply, he was given the transcript and maybe even the tape and he recreated it but the very existence of it is a paradox. He didn't really create the tape or come up with the things on the transcript, it was created by a paradoxical situation where there is no real beginning event so everything sort of just pieced together, because if it didn't then the situation would've never happened. The angels zapping the Doctor back where and when they did created a strange paradox that sort of worked itself out.
Also I mean, he knew he was creating a one sided conversation with someone, he could've made a reasonable estimate on how long it would take someone to say it at a normal pace and then respond when he thought was best. They can't really have a whole conversation where there's awkward, news room levels of delay between question and response because that would add up and waste screen time even though that would probably make more sense. Just gotta have some suspension of disbelief.
Steven Moffat wrote this. That's why it's so good.
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That would look like a nice T-Shirt.
the most intense and scary scene ever, the mystery of it all, the build up, the shift and tone change probably the most sudden and psychological mind trickery ever, you can see the fear and worry in his face and eyes and his voice. in my opinion Doctor Who is never ever gonna have this horror feeling ever ever again the feelings we younglings all experienced waaay back watching this will never ever be found again the music, the sounds, the movement, the shadows, the wind truly truly terrifying and also delivering an ingenious time travel concept, then after all of this the jumpscare, the terrifying psychological chase and battle with your eyes and where to go absolutely brilliant episode truly one of New Who's best
Sally Sparrow is one of the best one-off characters in NuWho. No surprise Carey Mulligan became a star
the next project is never let me go and the great gatsby.
How scary must it have been for the dude? Like Sally is hearing this for the first time, but this guy has been theorising over it fir ages. Thinking it’s harmless things like political statements or metaphors, memorising it word for word down to the period, only to realise what the Doctor is talking about is actually literal. Literal monsters that are faster than him and will kill him and that are lingering just outside the window before the Doctor even finished explaining.
I just love the way he says "Sorry" after they both say "Are you going to read out the whole thing?" Cracks me up every time.
Gg
I love this scene so much! Martha though OMP makes me laugh! She's one of the best companions!
I love Martha! I think a lot of people gave her a bad rap, but it was only because people thought she was trying to replace Rose too quickly. I also love that Martha was the one to choose to walk away from the Doctor, rather than wait.
I am such a Doctor Who fan and this episode has definitely been one of my all time favourites! I've seen it so many times and never get bored of it!
The “wingee-wingee-wingee-wingee” sounds effect is perfect, perfectly terrifying.
And I come around to this again, I love this episode. So well done.
This is an example of a very clever paradox, there's no possible way for this to happen, but it's still very interesting.
Cause an effect or reversed. She actually saved herself in the future.
This is my favorite Dr Who episode, one of the reasons being it deals with his time travelling with reference to his future travelling affecting the present time (from their point of view) of various people.
This is one of my all time favorite episodes of any show!
One of the scariests bit of telly ever!
Someone in another comment section of this scene mentioned that the angels are still stone even when the two of them aren't looking at them, because the audience is, and I think that could also explain why the transcript ran out exactly when it did rather than being complete or nonexistent. In an earlier part of what the loop of the transcript being written, taken, and read out, we weren't there to watch the angels while Sally and Larry were communicating with the Doctor. Once the Doctor told them both about the angels' true nature and what they were planning, the angels probably panicked and quickly k!lled/time-zapped them before they could react.
People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but *actually* from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff.
The way he explains it and everything in this episode makes sense so much. It's like whoa. 🤯
I have never looked at Statues the same again after this episode.....
This is the best episode in all TV series I ever watched
this is why steven moffat is the goat
Couldn't they take a sledgehammer to the angels while they're stuck in stone?
Something like that is tried in later episodes. They're not really stone. It's a far stronger material and can't really be damaged except for some ridiculously powerful technology.
It sounds like David's natural accent slips out when he says "Are you gonna read out the whole thing?"
Carey Mulligan, Weeping Angels, Wibbley Wobbley Timey Wimey things that go ding when there's stuff, what is there not to like about this Episode?
Best who episode ever.
I'd love to have a Doctor Who "The Angels have the phone box" t-shirt.
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best episode i've ever seen.
Doctor Who is so well written, it's amazing.
Yesterday a priest asked me about my tee shirt. What does it mean, "THE ANGELS HAVE THE PHONE BOX"? I had to get that on a tee shirt.
This Eposoide still haunts me when I was 8
Sally and Larry give me Amy and Rory vibe
Thanks for posting this. It really was the best of the season!!
It’s funny to me that I have to blink every time he tells me not to.
The worst part is that I have a statue in my bathroom. I didn't know I had it until I came home after school and went in. The moment I went in there and saw the statue I didn't have to go any more...
It has been 9 years. I guess you still don't go into your own bathroom.
@@InnocentC0 or they go, but 70 years earlier
thus is the power of the Doctor, PRAISE HIM!
The scariest part? There's an angel statue that my mom keeps in the house...
People assume that time is a straight progression of cause-to-effect but ACTUALLY, from a nonlinear, nonsubjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey stuff.
God in 2007 when the angel came at them through the door when they werent looking, i s**t myself and jumped behind the couch! Weeping angels were the early SCP and Slenderman. I love doctor who, making me proud to be british
SCP mention from 2015!? 😮
@@MorphingGrid101 2013 actually lol
And now sally sparrow is the new doctor
"Are you gonna read out the whole thing?"
Brilliant 😂
I want a shirt that says "The angels have my phone box"
Weeping Angels and the gas mask kid is what freaks me out more then any thing ever to be in Doctor Who. When ever I see a Weeping angel I'm like this. O-O Not blinking....Back away slowly...
That's easy.
It couldn't have gotten them, because *you* were looking at it.
That always gives me the creeps.
"What am I suppose to do?""How? HOW?" Hard to remember, long enough to write in later?
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Firts episode i saw of Doctor Who! 3 am, bad idea! i almost die with the statues!
especially the statue of liberty
after she tells him to watch the angel thats all she says. and he already had everything the doctor said typed up. Two sentences.
0.0 an eye-opener of course!
my friend has this entire scene copied it s awesome im playing sally
I guess it would make boring TV if every Weeping Angel episode went thusly....
"Oh no! The angels! They're here!!"
"Well, now. Hand me that sledgehammer, will you?"
~15 minutes later~
"Well...that was surprisingly easy...."
~the end~
Same thing happened after the Library episode T.T
who else whatched this at 2:00 in the morning and could NOT go to sleep nor turn their light out? geez!
My friend has a shirt that says this exact quote XD
whatever you do, don't skip around the video.
Odd thing is, I can totally see that happening...after all, he has a policebox that's bigger on the inside...so why not a pocket too? :D
well.....your screewed
The Weeping Angels would be the perfect villain for a DW/Buffy crossover.
He could have played Rory.
Holy crap. That's scary.
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A scary episode
I believe this episode is underated. Its possibly because it included little of the doctor himself. These are some of the scariest monsters ever!
3:42 How is he supposed to finish writing the transcript if he's not supposed to take his eyes off of the weeping angel ? and nobody's been looking at it the whole time the video was on before that ... it could have gotten them ...
The angels had a phone box c:
Has the series ever addressed what happens if someone takes a sledgehammer or pickax to an angel in stone form? Or any other way of smashing it?
i imagine they'd just somewhat lazily write around that by making the angels be made out of some kind of indestructible unknowable mystery stone from outer space.
The beggining of Skype.
a bear angel? ...0.0 thats scary.
I love this scene, but the one thing I never got was the timing. How did they get the timing of the conversation right?
Tennant recorded his side of the conversation by himself, and they just used that recording during this scene.
@@cocoalizmin Took me a sec but I think I meant like in universe, how was the timing supposed to work in universe
Plus with the rapid pace of their conversation, followed by fleeing for their lives, how could he have remembered and written in what was said at the beginning?
@@StrathclydegamerHe didn't write the last bit that's why the Doctor stopped
What if Sally eventually did get zapped back by the Angels, and this guy Gatsby found her?
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