1:29 上海冠心药房 means Shanghai Guanxin Pharmacy（I'm little surprised that they used some simplified Chinese characters） 2:10 上海卧室 means Shanghai bedroom 2:46 This sign 國際 means International So this is why as a Chinese, I will never use high resolution texture mods like New Vision. The vanilla Hong Kong text does have some problems, but generally it is not particularly inconsistent, but the Chinese textures in these mods are almost all Nonsense, even with self-made Chinese characters (I don’t even know where the modder got the material), you can even see a nightclub sign with 《论语》(The Analects of Confucius)written in Lucky Money, just like hanging on the wall of an American nightclub with 'The U.S. Constitution', it makes no sense。
This part of the game was good practice for my Chinese reading abilities. You would think since this is HK they would all use traditional characters. I remember in Revision, Maggie Chow's elevator had some Japanese kana characters on the tiling which confused me.
You probably have better things to do, but if not, you might want to reach the modder and offer him your help with translation, i'm sure they and other chinese gamers would apreciate such contribution.
Yeah, isn't it from the HQ retexture mod? Imo I don't think it was done in bad faith, just memes for those who can read it or decide to read it, and we all know how fragile some people are lol
Since you haven't learned Chinese, I would try to replicate the stroke order for some of the more unreadable characters on one of those websites with stroke input. Then copy and paste the characters you get into a translation program. And a shocking amount of these textures are mirrored. [ plus x in Chinese romanizations is pronounced like a sound but more to the front of the mouth. I know you are trying your best (: ]
I remember that there were some monks in the temple next to Tong's compound that spoke some Chinese. Maybe you can look into them as followup on this video? I don't remember any other NPCs that talk in there native language though.
I only know of the 2 monks near the temple that speak mandarin (probably writing it wrong) Ni hao ma (Greetings) and Um go jie guo (excuse me) EDIT: A bartender in Paris also has a french line, and i think the boy in the Silhouette hideout has one too, if JC doesn't rescue the female hostage from MJ12
ChatGPT is interesting but tbh it would probably have been faster and more reliable to get ten minutes of a Chinese translator's (or just regular guy's) time? It also feels a bit weird using AI instead of asking real people because this isn't a dead language, we aren't archaeologists. But maybe you don't know anyone Chinese. Too late now, but I could have asked friends to do it. It's also concerning that AI is replacing so many real-world jobs, which is kind of unethical. Deus Ex questions for sure! But cool video still, nicely produced, good effort. I wonder if we will get the Tracer Tong ending irl, won't be long before we hit peak oil, and we won't be able to maintain long supply chains with climate breakdown and increased conflict. Food for thought...
I'm really surprised that they got so much right in the game, and back in the year 2000 to boot. Most of the time if it's a foreign language, the game devs would just write up some foreign-looking nonsense and call it a day.
1:29 上海冠心药房 means Shanghai Guanxin Pharmacy（I'm little surprised that they used some simplified Chinese characters）
2:10 上海卧室 means Shanghai bedroom
2:46 This sign 國際 means International
So this is why as a Chinese, I will never use high resolution texture mods like New Vision. The vanilla Hong Kong text does have some problems, but generally it is not particularly inconsistent, but the Chinese textures in these mods are almost all Nonsense, even with self-made Chinese characters (I don’t even know where the modder got the material), you can even see a nightclub sign with 《论语》(The Analects of Confucius)written in Lucky Money, just like hanging on the wall of an American nightclub with 'The U.S. Constitution', it makes no sense。
This part of the game was good practice for my Chinese reading abilities. You would think since this is HK they would all use traditional characters. I remember in Revision, Maggie Chow's elevator had some Japanese kana characters on the tiling which confused me.
The thing got "International" right, but it seemed so out of place I thought it was just making stuff up.
You probably have better things to do, but if not, you might want to reach the modder and offer him your help with translation, i'm sure they and other chinese gamers would apreciate such contribution.
@@olivius8891 Hong Kong isn't a time capsule, there's a lot of modern simplified mandarin around today. It really depends on the area you are in
Nice to know it's not a bunch of random words
so the allegations about the signs in HK being a bunch of slurs and swears in mandarin are just a myth huh
Either that or I am just a glowing fed gaslighting people
@@mK_Dx terry davis knew it all.... them glow in the darks gatekeeping peak comedy from us...
i thought it was the New Vision mod that did that, or GMDX
Sorry my 白鬼, Hong Kong speaks Cantonese
(Although when written both dialects are largely the same)
Yeah, isn't it from the HQ retexture mod? Imo I don't think it was done in bad faith, just memes for those who can read it or decide to read it, and we all know how fragile some people are lol
i'm very glad they bothered over the chinese writing
Thanks for the work you did on this!
Quite interesting! Always a good day when I see some new OG Deus Ex content.
Since you haven't learned Chinese, I would try to replicate the stroke order for some of the more unreadable characters on one of those websites with stroke input. Then copy and paste the characters you get into a translation program.
And a shocking amount of these textures are mirrored.
[ plus x in Chinese romanizations is pronounced like a sound but more to the front of the mouth. I know you are trying your best (: ]
Yeah, I should have known better, for the 2027 video I actually studied the phonetics before butchering them, this time I just eyeballed it
Excellent, really great video, good sharing 👌
I remember that there were some monks in the temple next to Tong's compound that spoke some Chinese. Maybe you can look into them as followup on this video?
I don't remember any other NPCs that talk in there native language though.
I only know of the 2 monks near the temple that speak mandarin (probably writing it wrong)
Ni hao ma (Greetings)
and
Um go jie guo (excuse me)
EDIT: A bartender in Paris also has a french line, and i think the boy in the Silhouette hideout has one too, if JC doesn't rescue the female hostage from MJ12
@@HE13272326 The monks speak Cantonese. One says "lei sik um sik guangdonghua?" or "can you speak Cantonese?"
@@HE13272326 I believe the "excuse me" is in Cantonese btw
ChatGPT is interesting but tbh it would probably have been faster and more reliable to get ten minutes of a Chinese translator's (or just regular guy's) time? It also feels a bit weird using AI instead of asking real people because this isn't a dead language, we aren't archaeologists. But maybe you don't know anyone Chinese. Too late now, but I could have asked friends to do it.
It's also concerning that AI is replacing so many real-world jobs, which is kind of unethical. Deus Ex questions for sure!
But cool video still, nicely produced, good effort. I wonder if we will get the Tracer Tong ending irl, won't be long before we hit peak oil, and we won't be able to maintain long supply chains with climate breakdown and increased conflict. Food for thought...
"The need to be observed and understood was once satisfied by God. Now we can implement the same functionality with data-mining algorithms."
I'm really surprised that they got so much right in the game, and back in the year 2000 to boot. Most of the time if it's a foreign language, the game devs would just write up some foreign-looking nonsense and call it a day.
If I remember correctly, the devs actually visited each real physical place in order to make sure that they replicated it correctly in-game.
weird how those texture were not translated after all these years to the point its not clear whats the truth
Hah this is super interesting!
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