10 Video Game Genres THAT HAVE VANISHED
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- Опубліковано 1 тра 2024
- There are some types of video games that we just don't see much of anymore. Here are some examples of fading game genres.
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15:28 Number 1 - Ігри
I do miss couch co-op/split-screen adventure games. My sister and I grew up playing lots of those types of games and they feel like they are almost completely gone today.
if you know where to look you can still find co-op games today
@@mattalan6618 go on.......
co-op game are not that much dead today,left 4 dead 2,payday 2 and upcoming payday 3,cod zombie,etc are still exist tho
you and her might like a game called "a way out"
@@yakcoffee I still play a lot of couch coop and party games with my sister. The likes of A Way Out, It Takes Two, Overcooked, LEGO games, Rounds, Move or Die, Oh My Godheads and BroForce
There were a couple of Genres which feel "more dead" than several mentioned here:
1. Point & Click Adventures
2. Textadventures
3. MUDs
4. Dungeoncrawlers (Step based, like Dungeonmaster)
5. (German Style) Economy Sims (not "Citybuilders", but games where you do management decisions, buy and sell and easily go bankrupt, lots of them from Germany, Like "Hanse", Fugger, Mad TV, Der Planer, Capitalism...) I think the only derivate still existing is Sports Management games
Still play Ports of call trough Steam. A German shipping management game i played back in the days on Amiga.
@@Triggernlfrl A heared a lot of it, but that sone of which I missed out on
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.
Yeah, this list it's bad. A lot of genre just are not so popular as there were, not dead
Also add FMV games.
I'm surprised to not see Point and Click Adventure Games on the list. This genre was one of the biggest in the 90s and early 2000s and then sort of vanished. I loved playing the Broken Sword series and Runaway, but the list of great games in that genre may go on and on.
Also, I'd definitely add Tycoon games. So many of these kept popping up, the likes of Rollercoaster Tycoon, Airline Tycoon as the most notable examples. But also Transport Tycoon and games like Pizza Syndicate deserve a mention.
Again, it did not vanish at all. Thing is it vanished from mainstream media, but there were even more games developed in the 00s and 10s than in the 90s. You just had to follow the right media, like adventure gamers.
I saw your comment so i looked up in my Steam library real quick to give you some suggestions if you wanna try some of this out, not all are new but are less known than usual point and click adventure suspects ( Grim Fandango, Broken Sword, Longest Journey...etc )...
Anyway, in no particular order:
Deponia, The Journey Down, Oxenfree, A new Begining final cut, Memento Mori, Memoria, Gemini Rue, Alpha Polaris, The Dream Machine, Shadows On the Vatican, Silence ( this was areally good game ), Technobabylon, Stasis ( this was an awesome sf horror p&c adventure ), To the Moon, Whispered World...
This are some that i found in my library, but Steam is full of decent or even great point and click adventures, they just arent that much represented in the gaming media so it seems like that genre is dead.
Anyway, if any of those peaks your interest.. enjoy :D
P.S: Stasis if you like horror sf, or Silence if you like fantasy and more wholesomeness ... are great to pick up first, Deponia series is cool but the humor and vibe either suits you or gets on your nerves XD
@@DreamskyDance yeah, browse through steam "point n click" label usually gives good hints. There are people who put the label on RTS games but hey, that's steam.
Adventure games had died but ended up making quite a comeback
@@MrSiren52 when did they Die. Tell me the years when they were dead, please
Giant mech games from the 90’s. Mechwarrior, Earthsiege, Heavy Gear, etc. These games were more of a hobby for me. Reason to buy a flight stick and a set of headphones with a microphone and voice command software for giving orders. This was my greatest gaming experience from the 90’s.
I loved the Mechwarrior games from the 90's. MechWarrior 2 was my gateway into the larger Battletech universe as well as mech games in general.
Although not nearly as influential now, I am glad that the genre isn't completely gone.
Mechwarrior Online and Mechwarrior 5 are still going with PGI (the developer) announcing a new upcoming Battletech/Mechwarrior title later this year.
From Software has their new upcoming Armored Core title.
Lastly, I think I have heard Hawken is trying to make another go at it.
None of this is nearly as big and influential as it was, but I am glad we are still seeing life in the genre. I hope with From Software's reputation, Armored Core will be a big hit and maybe revitalize interest in the genre.
MechWarrior Online is still running and still pretty decent. Free to Play and you don't have to spend unless you want lots and lots of different mechs quickly.
That's _"vehicular combat"._
Mechwarrior 5(?) and the new armored core. would suggest that its not dead
@@SilverMe2004 Plenty of things in the video that still have games, like the RTS, but they are a fraction of what they were. Sadly Mechwarrior is in that category, now its a niche game but time was it was a major major release.
I used to dig point-and-click adventures. Maniac Mansion, Full Throttle, Longest Journey, King's Quest, Quest for Glory, Secret of Monkey Island... for a while during the 90s they were everywhere for PC and had some real gems.
I hear you, i also used to be a big fan of this genre. Even popular websites like Justadventure have sadly disappeared. On the other hand, though I feel the genre has become stale, every once in a while i play a new one, but the magic is gone. Not because the game is bad, but some gameplay mechanics haven't aged well for me. Nowadays I play open-world games which fill the gap of exploring new worlds and have sometimes good storylines.
It's baffling that they included FPSs but not point-and-click adventure games in this list!!!!
Just got done saying this. Finished Pentiment recently though and that was awesome.
@@Dave-xb3xe Ironically, this part shows most how the industry has changed - from raw gameplay experience of arena shooters to bloated, mtx-filled storefronts of fps's of today.
Try franbow
number 5 really hit in the feelings. car combat games were my favourite and it's a shame no one is doing them anymore
Arguably, Destruction Allstars and Rocket League are vehicular combative. Not a Twisted Metal or a Vigilante 8, but fun in their own way.
Closest in recent memory is Wreckfest which is pretty good except I had to buy copies for all my broke friends (no local coop) and setup port-forwarding. It has demolition derby which fits the bill as well as elimination races. You can drive a schoolbus and small tractor at each other lol
Play crossout. It is the quintessential vehicular combat game
@@xX2fast4uXx1982 oh I remember crossout. That just reminded me about Rage 2, Mad Max, and even Batman Arkham Knight had vehicular combat too.
There is one series not games many of us miss for sure, arcade racers like Midway's Attic and Hydro thunder....those are a treasure of its time
Shoutout to the music video game genre, specifically Guitar Hero! After the third game released, i was inspired to learn how to play guitar for real. My dad warned me it would be very different from the game but once i started getting lessons, the songs from Guitar Hero and Rock Band really kept me motivated to never stop learning new songs. Here i am at the age of 25 and now i can play guitar, bass, drums, and some piano. I've also had more than 20 live performances. This is proof that video games can change someone's life 🎸🎶
That's awesome! I started my kids on Rock Band when they were little and they've both been in drumline and marching band ever since.
Cool story bro
Same for me. Guutar hero 3 really made me want to learn to play guitar. Now at 28 I am a music producer and my main instrument still is the guitar.
Rhythm games have been doing very well in the VR space. Beat Saber, and Synth Riders are pretty huge and still well supported.
and rhythm games become masterpieces when mixed with bullet hell
Yes, Beat Sabre is quite the phenomenon, and is probably a bit better than just sitting on my butt like a blob for hours. 👍
Mobile rhythm games are also a treasure trove of great titles: like Arcaea, Phigros, and Cytus with Even Osu! making a mobile port
Those are certainly in their own subgenre of VR rhythm games and pale in comparison to real rhythm games with dedicated peripherals.
I wanted to play Beat Saber, however by the time I had a PSVR set the move controllers were gone from the market sadly.
While it wasn't a vehicular combat-only game, Mad Max had some of the best vehicular combat around. Playing it, especially in first-person, really felt like you were in the movies and it worked so well.
Yeah I think its one of the most underrated games of all time. The vehicle combat rules and the regular combat, so satisfying.
It was good for what it was. I still play it quite a bit, but like guns mounted on the Cars.
Got Mad Max for free years ago on PS plus and I absolutely adore it. It's one I always come back to play again eventually. I have already completed it 100% 3 times already.
Going for the platinum left a pretty bad taste in my mouth. The collectibles were such a boring drag.
Got it super cheap on steam years ago. I remember being really surprised at how much I liked it. It was like 3rd person Borderlands meets Twisted Metal. Never beat it because I got caught up in some newer games, but I remember going in with no expectations and being impressed.
I worked in the gaming department of a best buy when guitar hero 3 came out. That was about the time that everyone got burnt out on music games. We were left with 200 plastic guitars we couldn't shift. Being the biggest best buy in texas at the time, we had to get creative. We hosted guitar hero events to sell some , we stealthily shipped them off to smaller stores low on inventory. The rest we had to mark down 75%. Honestly for a solid 2 years the biggest issue in our department was shifting those damn plastic guitars.
funny enough, if you had just bought all those guitars at 75% off, you'd have a small fortune on your hand now.
They are worth a shitload now, the market is absolutely ripe for a new one.
The thing is, you can't look at moving new guitars as a drop in interest. The people I know who were really into guitar hero and rock band were into it until after the games stopped releasing. Everyone was just using the same guitars they bought to start with. Support of the games died, not the willingness to play them. Devs and stores took the fact that they couldn't push more peripherals as a lack of interest when people simply had no reason to buy new ones. I get that the point was to sell peripherals, but the interest never really waned until after the games were gone.
Guitar Hero 3? nahh
That was when Rock Band 1 and the South Park episode released. Still very much prime for these games. May have been the height honestly.
I think most people bought Rock Band that year.
Edit - In fact I just looked up an old article "Guitar Hero III is biggest grossing retail title ever in US " - In no way was this the downturn moment! (Rock Band is 5th on that list)
To add, I don’t want to spend $300-600 on a setup. I don’t want one THAT bad.
That's why I love indie games, because they always rescure older genres
Another good one is "Demolition Derby" games, back in like the 90s - 2000s every western racing game developer had a demolition derby as a counterpart to their regular racing game series. They were soo popular that I feel like everyone I know had at least one growing up. Funny enough in real life the actual Demolition Derby sport isn't as popular as the games were.
If you have ever tried to prepare a real car for a demolition derby or a race like a figure 8 or 2 man race, you'd understand why it is so much easier to just play it on a tv. Still love a good demo, but after it its over, I feel for the guys that spend weeks to get their cars ready, just to destroy them. I know it is all part of the sport, and pretty much the point, but man, it is a lot of work.
There is a new one available on steam whose title was basically wipe out but with wording changed. I chuckled when it got reccomended to me because it reminded of those days in the PS1/PS2 era when car licensing wasn't so annoying and filled with things like "the cars can't be destroyed or have mud in them"
@@travisolson9413it is not that hard, back in the day when people weren’t so worried about safety, you would only need to remove your windows, and paint the driver side door.
Yeah, I'd sign up for that. One day, behind a high school I worked at, in an empty pasture, two guys had some beaters and just went at it. 10 minutes in there was a crowd of kids from all ages sitting on the hill cheering them on. Then the cops showed up and ruined everyone's fun. Great while it lasted though. @lylahsworld3930
I remember Unreal and Quake so well. I used to play tournaments and loved that experience. It didn't seem as toxic as so many of the modern multiplayer shooters. And LAN parties with friends were just the best. A living room ran with chords and multiple computers. Man I'm old. lol
A buddy and I used to do LAN parties quite a bit with UT99 back in the day. The best part was he had a Mac and I had a PC and we could get them to talk to each other and we would play until 4-5AM. Good times.
LAN Parties were the best!
I feel you - happy memories
Mentioning loot boxes and other crap as a good thing says a lot about this video.
Freaking awesome. But people forget about splitgate. I freaking love it and think its a good modern arena shooter.
For car combat genre, “Blur” was one of my favorites during the xbox 360 days! got in a lot of hours and fun with friends on that one. miss it for sure.
That game was awesome!
Mario kart for grown ups
Very underrated
@@user-is2mj2ig4v better than mario kart
Rogue trip is a PS1 hidden gem
The whole arcade racing genre in general is a shadow of its former self too. Today there is Forza Horizon, NFS and some indiegames and a few AA titles releasing occasionally, with the occasional AA+/AAA release in between, like Hot Wheels and Lego 2K. A lot of series have died: Burnout, Motorstorm, WipeOut, Ridge Racer, Tokyo Extreme Racer, Juiced, Midnight Club, Driver.. The rate of "one-off" arcade racers releasing has slowed down a lot too.
How could you leave our Carmageddon? Hands down one of the best car combat games ever.
I wish the RTS genre would pickup again! They are incredible and have always been my favorite to play competitively... Great video Jake and the gameranx crew 💙
Yeah same but I want a fusion of RTS and something like Stronghold 2 meets Medieval Total War.
My favorites were the Empire Earth games Warcraft 3, and Age of Mythology also I'm not sure if its rts but Black and White by a lionhead Studios
@@fluffy012345678910 Warcraft 3 got me into PC Gaming... I used to play it at LAN centers until my parents bought me a PC that couldn't run it 🤣 I've always played Warcraft, StarCraft, Company of Heroes and AOE
Tempest Rising looks promising, but yeah, nothing like the golden age of RTS.
Tempest rising, stormgate aom retold, compant of heroes 3, Beyond all reasons. Upcoming rts games ! 2023 is a good year for rts, and check aoe 4 out Till they Come
This article was so heartbreaking. There were at least 5 of these genres that I so wish would make a comeback. Car combat and extreme sports why did you leave us? Way to make me feel old too.
There are rumours of a new twisted metal in development at least, fingers crossed
They could make a new extreme sports game, but what new music worth listening to would go in it? There's only so many synthwave songs with lyrics, and the rap crossover genres are even more terrible now than they were then. There isn't anything like When Worlds Collide now. If they even tried, it would just be Forspoken sans magic powers in the current year. No one would play that game.
Riders republic. You're welcome.
There's a new skate game in development.
@@zakhoskins6404 EA FIFA has proven you can make killer music compilations year after year. at least they did form 2013 to 2018, i have been out of the loop for a while.
03:19 the Pikmin series is the best adaptation of a RTS to consoles, IMHO.
I am replaying those games in preparation for the 4th, they are awesome.
I will never understand why time crisis hasn't made a VR return. Imagine how amazing that would be on modern gen vr headsets like psvr2 and quest 3
I'm surprised you didn't mention Road Rash for vehicular combat. We played that game for hours and hours on the Sega Genesis, that was the spiritual parent of Twisted Metal. I'm glad you mentioned Vigilante 8, I completely forgot about that game! I probably paid for that game six times just renting it from blockbuster back in the day.
Carmageddon came to mind too.
Shut up
destruction derby series and demolition racer were cool too.
Road Rash was the GOAT.
Loved Road Rash and Twisted Metal!!
kinda surprised the adventure genre was left out of this.. it was huge in the 80's and 90's and it gave us some amazing games
^ this ^
point and click games are move popular than they have been in years
What are you considering adventure games? A lot of games today have that tag.
Get Lamp
@@LemurKrazy "You can't get ye flask."
What about point-and-click adventure games.
Those were my jam in the 90s. Although I think the genre reached its pinnacle just this year with SYBERIA: THE WORLD BEFORE, and that series as a whole is a heartfelt, stunningly beautiful piece of work.
There are some great indie developers going the full 16-bit Lucasarts-inspired route and bringing these games back. They crop up on GOG quite often, as well as ports of all the old classics.
I really miss the sneak-em-ups like the Thief and Splinter Cell games. Sure, there are Dishonored games now, but the sneaking is optional, and when you get caught there are other ways to finish the level. I really miss sitting around a Thief level for 20 minutes waiting for the opportune moment to take out a guard.
I feel like the people who made Dishonored never played Thief. The game plays sooooooo much better once you realize the stealth is a fool's errand since there's no way to tell how sneaky you're being until someone shoots you. It's unfortunate the game basically presents itself as a stealth game, because there are no systems in place to make it particularly feasible as an idea, and it's pretty frustrating until you just start bum-rushing everything.
Carmageddon was huge among my group of friends growing up. Surprised it didn't get a mention in the vehicular combat games.
Did anyone else here play it?
Oh yeah!! :)
Oh yeah, Twisted Metal series in the playstation was awesome, besides Renegade 8!
That and Duke Nukem 3D were regular weekenders for us!
Also surprised motorstorm, burnout and wreckfest weren't mentioned
Believe it or not, the first time I got to play Carmageddon was in an afterschool club in high school. Our teacher didn't give a shit, she just let us play since someone else brought the consoles. That's how I found Crazy Taxi too.
I miss games that weren't afraid to be experimental and just batshit crazy with gameplay and cinematics. Infected on PSP comes to mind.
Are you black?
saints row?
@@lovegaming619 The first two Saint's Rows were really good. The second one still has the most detailed character customisation ever. And it was so cool back then that the way you made your character would be the way it was in cut-scenes.
But they were a riff on GTA, so not totally original.
@@Safetytrousers cool I've been playing saints row 3 I might try the second one
It's a shame that so many gaming companies aren't willing to experiment with new ideas. It's kinda been left to the indie devs to do the experimental stuff and then if it's successful, then the Triple A companies will come in and either buyout the indie company or they'll quickly make their own version of the game.
Had a phase where I started doing light gun game emulation on my Android tablet and phone, with games like Lethal Enforcers or Metal Combat Falcons Revenge all set to use taps instead of virtual cursors. It was a great experience tbh, surprised no one thought to make official ports because touch screens would be perfect for them.
I appreciate that he made the effort to point out that many of the genres didn't die, they evolved.
"I appreciate that he made the effort to point out that many of the genres didn't die, they evolved" - However, that also means they explicitly lied with the video title ("10 Video Game Genres THAT HAVE VANISHED" -- their emphasis, not mine), using the title as clickbait.
Having grown up in the RTS genre I will always believe it's the best genre
ya should explain son
Lmao
The elephant in the room is the Total War series, which completely changed the nature of RTS games by layering a turn-based/empire-builder/Civ-like on top of the RTS combat.
@@SimuLord Starcraft was a game changer!
@@deihorus7927 Command and Conquer and Starcraft were the titans of RTS, with Dawn of War 1 too.
I was actually shocked to see "Beat-em'-Ups" didn't make the list. Games like Double Dragon, Final Fight, TMNT, Golden Axe and the like. Unless I've missed any recent entries, I genuinley can't recall the last new one I've seen.
Abso-fucking-lutely my friend. Always was my favourite genre. Someone needs to find a way to bring it back in style.
(I had a split second thought of "hmm, there has been a game where the combat was good", realised I was thinking of Sifu.. BUT, very much not in the style, and wouldn't work for co-op.... OR WOULD IT!
Agreed -- should've been #1. We see indie title and low budget ones sometimes, but no AAA ones.
Those are really old, probably most of the audience don't know them. However, fair point. Similar to on-rail shooters.
All of these games have came out in the past 10 years TMNT Shredders Revenge, Scott Pilgram, Streets of Rage 4, River City Girls, Capcoms 2018 Beat'em Up Bundle, Young Souls, Fight'n Rage, Treachery in Beatdown City, Mother Russia Bleeds, etc
A bunch of them came out within the last few years. River City Girls, River City Girls 2, Streets of Rage 4, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Shredder's Revenge. Also, I would love to play a new Golden Axe game.
Revolt 1999 racing combat game was my fav game from childhood the thought of driving rc cars was adding enough but driving them and competing with combat in a toy story world is just mind blowing
I'd say the collect-a-thon games evolved into the loot shooter.
You say arena combat is dead, yet Fortnight is one of the biggest games ever.
I can't believe Carmageddon didn't get a mention in the vehicular combat category!! I loved that game in the late 90's!
even the Reincarnation release a few years back was pretty epic
Or BattleTanx: Global Assualt
Yes, yes! At least somebody!
Wait, wait, wait... Did Reincarnation actually become playable at some point? Because it ran at like 4FPS and multiple glitches/session on most computers for at least a year. Possibly the worst-optimized modern game I've ever played, and one of the buggiest.
YES!! I was just about to comment this!!
I think Splitgate is a really cool attempt on bringing back arena shooters. It's unique, fast-paced, and from what I remember, you can only choose between a sniper and assault rifle on spawn, everything else is found on the map. If you haven't tried it, you definitely should, it's basically Portal Halo
i feel like the hype died so fast though :/
Yeah. It was a lot of fun, but nobody plays it now. And the few that still do will mop the floor with any casual players, to the point where it's almost impossible to get back into.
That was the problem though, within the first two weeks casual players were getting destroyed by tryhards that had been in the game all day, every day since release.
@@squeakmccleanthat’s what did it for me. I played my first 5-10 games quite well and then got thrown into the actual good lobbies and got shit on for 3 games in a row where I only had 3-4 kills, that killed it for me. Also the cosmetic prices were insane from memory.
I think the finals is somewhat of an arena shooter and its fun
- Point & Click Adventures
- Pinball Games
- Games with pre-rendered images (Myst style)
I think the primary reason light gun games disappeared, is because they only work with a CRT.
They'd work by illuminating a square in the hitbox of the target for one frame when you pulled the trigger, if the optic detected an increase in luminance during that 16ms window, it counted it as a hit. if there were multiple hitboxes, it would illuminate one the next frame, then another the next after that. Ever notice that square around the duck in duck hunt?
With digital displays, there's processing time and lower contrast ratios, so it would require another more complex and likely less precise method to detect aim.
This is why the WII gun-shooter type games sucked so bad (they used an IR sensor to detect the angle of the controller, which doesn't correspond to where it's pointed at the screen so much as how it's pointed in relation to the sensor bar, IE, not accurate, and there was the delay factor of digital processing as well)
What I miss most are RTS games. I remember playing rise and fall civilizations at war for hours and hours every night. Such a unique RTS experience where you could handle your hero in a third person mode
My man, Rise and Fall to this day is my top three most underrated games ever created. I still have no doubt the Idea behind the game can turn into a AAA video game with tons of fun.
2023 is actually one of the best rts years for a long time. Upcoming Tempest Rising is like a new c&c game and Stormgate from former blizzard.
And Age of empires 4 is really good
Homeworld and Homeworld 2 on PC🥺
Anno (before Ubisoft got their hands on it), Heroes of Might & Magic, Age of Empires, The Settlers, Stronghold.... Good times. Hate what they've become on mobile games. Never did get to play Warcraft.
DJ Hero is the most criminally underrated game ever. Extremely fun and unique peripheral, really really cool original mashups and just dripping with style. An absolutely killer game that deserved to be bigger
Mannnnn dj hero 2 was so fun! Sucks they charging like 120ish for it now online 😭
Those turn tables were garbage, that was the problem with it.
There's one genre I loved but never had much popularity and is now totally gone - the first person real time strategy game. Think the 1998's Battlezone, or 2001's Sacrifice. Your player character was on the battlefield and had some beefy abilities, but you also commanded armies and built things at the same time from the 1st person perspective. Shame they never really caught on.
The things you can do with that kind of genre are obviously endless, it's kind of weird that it isn't a thing.
Really enjoy Sacrifice. Too bad that never went anywhere.
Future Cop LAPD was like that. Somebody is currently trying to remake it. It's called LAPD 2195
I remember there was some game in the mid-to-late 2000s, you controlled a soldier in first or third person (don't remember), and could run around the battlefield, fighting like a regular soldier, or could enter a control center, where you activated a computer that switched you into RTS mode, and you could create units and command them around the battlefield.
@@maechyl859 I don't remember being able to command other units in Future Cop? :|
Loved a lot of those old school games.
Twisted Metal and V8 were among my favorite games when i was a kid, up there with those old PS1 sports games like Tony Hawk, coolboarders, 3xtreme etc.
You forgot about flight sims. Flight simulators, either civilian or combat flight simulation, have become so niche that they are not even mentioned in the video, but they were fairly popular from the early 90s to the early 2000s. And the same goes for other vehicle simulations like submarines, etc. that got even more niche. But we the elder remember a time when Microprose made quite a fortune almost exclusively with all that.
I’m glad you said this, because had a ww1 era pilot game called blazing angels on the white 360, by the time wifi was popular and I got the new 360 there were 0 other players online
Probs cause of the new Microsoft one being so large they can’t put it here
It’s fallen, but not forgotten
Jane's World War 2 fighters
Oh yes. Silent Hunter is such an underrated series.
I also desperately want a modern Red Baron 3D. All we have is Rise of Flight and Wings over Flanders Field
The finished game at release genre
I miss the variety of sports games. We used to get 4-5 MLB games every year, same with the NBA and NFL. You'd have a simulation game an arcade game a few in the middle and it was up to the studios to put out a good game because they had competition.
I'm surprised you didn't mention combat simulator games that died off roughly before XBox 360 era - even if most of those were PC titles (some of which debuted on Amiga).
Those were games in which you take control of an entire machine - a plane (IL-2 Sturmovik, F-22 Lighting), a helicopter (Apache vs Hokum, Apache Longbow), a tank (M1 Tank Platoon a submarine (699 Attack Sub, Silent Service), a battleship (Independence War, Freespace) or some other kind of spaceship (Wing Commander, X-Wing, TIE Fighter, Descent) - which were the main (if not the *only*) reason to have a joystick in a post-Quake era.
I miss thosegames.
I'm getting old and I need a hug.
I miss the old arcade sidescroller games. Things like Contra, Double Dragon, Original 4 player Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, 4 player Gauntlet, and many more. Heck I just miss arcades in general. I know I spent alot of time in GTA 5 getting my characters arcade just right. My sisters kid just had a birthday at one of those fun parks and they still had some arcade machines with those weighted plastic guns with force feedback. Some were even new. They even had a 4 player Minecraft sidescroller
There are actually a lot of sidescrollers these days. I'm not sure sidescrolling on its own is really a genre, but if you look on any game distribution site that'll be most of the games they have because it's the easiest to develop. If you look for a category called de-makes you'll also find a lot of modern 3D games converted to 2D. Those can be kind of cool at times. Someone even made a Halo de-make for the Atari 2600.
@@anon_y_mousse Interesting thank you ill take a look.
Dude, there are thousandos of games like that, mainly indie.
Riders Republic was the closest hope I had to getting something close to the SSX franchise. No one has tried to capture that same feeling that games like SSX 3 had as an over the top extreme sports game.
Riders republic more like negers republic am I right
Riders Republic was still to grounded in reality for me, I don't understand why they don't go full 7200 degrees mega flips in these games...
I played the crap out of the SSX demo that came with the PS2 on launch.
I loved riders republic. Super fun game. Still miss the old ones line ssx tricky
I still play Riders Republic sometimes. I'm curious whether they made a profit on it. I bought it new rather than used to try and support the genre.
I think every major game genre can be broken down further with a focus on either arcade-styled gameplay or simulation focused gameplay. I've got an idea for a arcade styled city builder that harkens back to the days of SimCity but even easier for single player, but then has multiplayer options that could be interesting.
I think RTS eSports fell through because they were both a bit over complex for an average viewer, and also sportscasting has evolved into "storylines" that could have helped Starcraft remain interesting, despite the game difficulty.
For the peripheral music game, I would go even further back to the late 90's with Dance Dance Revolution bundled into you thought. But I see an opportunity for a dance pad game in conjunction with the Australian kids show Bluey. Bluey as a show leans heavily into the imaginary play of kids, and I think dancing is a great expression of that idea. If you can use the show's music (which is excellent) to make stepcharts that respect young kids beginning to play games like this, as well as people who have played this style of dancing game two decades ago, you may have a real sellable game there.
The 90's series Road Rash should have also been included in the vehicular combat genre.
As a car combat game, I remember when I was a kid I truly *LOVED* to play to Interstate 76 🥰
I think some of these genres also just folded into other games. Like vehicular combat was so big it needed its own setting. Now games like Borderlands and Battlefront, it is just part of a larger game.
The genre I miss most these days is the 3D mechanical puzzle genre. Games like Myst, Rhem, etc. There used to be a lot of Myst clones in the 90-00s
Split screen is only a nostaglia trip. I remember firmly me and my friends in the 90s, having fun of course, BUT we often got frustrated that we could see each other. Took the competition and sneakiness out of it. We all wished many times we could do it "online" before it was even a thing. Anyone who was around did. Dont let the rose shades of nostalgia warp your mind, getting rid of it was wayyyy better.
And ill say the best moments ive had were online vs the times i had split screen.
I've scrolled through the comments and was stunned that no one mentioned Wizardry, Might&Magic, Wizards&Warriors and even some of the C-64 greats ... Legacy of the Ancients or Mines of Titan. Those were the fun games that were different everytime you played them because of the many characters and spells. Remember Bard's Tale ... that pretty much began the fun gaming era as far as RPG went.
VR also resurrecting the rhythm genre as one of the most popular VR games is a rhythm game, Beat Saber
Honestly I still play Guitar Hero on my Wii. I haven't gotten tired of the songs. It just feels good to shred on the guitar every now and then. I really wish they'd at least make a remaster of the series. There's plenty of streamers and videos of clone hero that I see all the time.
From what I understand, a lot of it was also the music industry nickle and diming every single extra song that was possible. $2.50 for a single song? I would love to go back and just be able to curate a personalized list, but not for those prices.
Played world tour for years with my brothers until recently when it broke but I’d like to fix or upgrade it
If you want a good laugh, look for a Guitar Hero player upload called "Super Ghostbusters."
Loved how you turned any game concept into a genre to make the video, LOL
sarcasm apart I really did enjoy the video and the trip to memory lane
I was a little late to the wave growing up but still loved GH3. Went to clone hero which had a huge dedicated community before GH live, because they had made software to port in and chart any song. Theres all kinds of ways to adapt the wii or xbox controllers and now even drums so you can play anything in the GH/Rock Band formulas and its sweet.
I feel so bad for kids today and the ones just behind my age group cause we were the last true arcaders… going to an arcade with your friends and $10 in your pocket to play for hours. The environment the greasy food. Gah. Then by late middle/high school they disappeared. Wish these younger gamers could experience a genuine arcade experience.
I was born in 2003 so missed out on all that. A shame, honestly. But hey, growing up with a lot of the epic tech we got today is nice, too.
@@justurboi3806 They were great for latest graphics and hype environment. But also expensive, overly difficult and hard to get to as a kid. It was all we had, no internet, no smart phones, mostly no computers, low powered home consoles, so we enjoyed it until we had to go home and be bored again.
@@cattysplat good times. 🍻💨🤘
Was born 2003, missed going to an arcade, primarily because we commissioned a 4 person, tron themes multi-arcade with pretty much every game you could find at an arcade. We never got a dance pad or anything so rhythm games were unavailable, but man, it was fun, especially during my 10th birthday party where I had friends over playing minecraft on the xbox and mortal kombat on the arcade, or some pinball, I’ll still go places to play some damn good pinball
I feel like it must be an American thing. Over in Australia your bound to find an arcade paired with your local bowling alley.
I’m 21 years old but have grown up going with mates or family to the bowling alley and then playing in the arcade afterwards. Jake mentioning those shoot ‘em up games with the plastic guns disappearing was odd to me as we have plenty of them here, there’s 2-3 at my local arcade.
It may just be a local thing and not nationwide but if you go out to the western suburbs of Sydney I guarantee you will find a good arcade and a bunch of kids/ teens going crazy (and young nerdy adults hahaha)
I feel like oversaturation has consistently been the killer of many genres.
Give me another getway instead of cod49
@@Scooby-bf4bp or a tenth MW2
Games like Anvil of dawn, SS1, SS2, Legend of Grimrock, Lands of Lore series, Realms of the Haunting, etc.
Games where you controlled movement (even turning) entirely via keyboard, and the mouse was used to interact with the environment, such as targeting enemies, flipping switches or UI interaction.
There have been 1-2 indie games, but they die as fast as they show up it seems.
This is a Genre that, for obvious reasons, have died out.
The obvious reason is that such a control scheme gave the user the feeling they had to fight the controls in order to play the game. Movement was somewhat clunky and often equated to "tank controls". Mouse was the cannon, keyboard was the rest of the body.
This is a Genre / play-style that has died. Although, a lot of these games had amazing and outstanding gameplay and stories. Remakes with modernized controls and improved NPCs to deal with faster players is mostly all that would be needed. A lot of these older games could also use some upgraded NPC pathfinding. But the rest is delivered on a silver platter. A lot of kids today miss out on some AMAZING stories told via these games because GFX or controls gets in the way. It's a shame really.
I loved the Lego Dimensions series. It was the only Lego game I played and enjoyed. I tried a couple of the others, but it just didn't hit the same. Best part is the only waste for that game was the RF tags. Otherwise, all the pieces were Lego and have been integrated into my collection. It was also awesome to get mini-figs that haven't released elsewhere (looking at Chell from Portal as a prime example.)
Red Dead , Far cry , Assassin Creed , Batman series , Gears of war , WWE 2K etc all lost their identity because of the "RPG Trend". I seem to be the one of few who noticed it.
For me personally the slow decline of RTS games r most heartbreaking. I used to play RTS all the time and now we get 1 or 2 games at the most and most of the time they just come and go like Warhammer 40k Dawn of War. But we still get awesome city builder games still like Cities Skylines and Frostpunk.
If you're looking for something to scratch that RTS itch, try Starship Troopers: Terran Command.
There's also the upcoming Tempest Rising by 3D Realms and THQ Nordic.
@@Tyrranis thx man. I'll check them out soon.
@@Tyrranis I hope the devs make a starship troopers 2.
I was thinking about stealth games like Splinter Cell, there are still some games that incorporate some stealth in them, but not as the main focus. Also, co-op/split-scren games where you REALLY need to interact with your partner to complete a level, like Portal, Magical Quest, Bugz & Taz, or again Splinter Cell.
I think what killed the arena shooter must have been the transition from first person to third person. In the original multiplayer Quake, you cannot see your own body and your weapon is just there, so you know what you are holding. So why would you bother outfitting your character or getting weapon skins. The games focussed on what the player saw with their own eyes, and the fact that there was no levelling up was designed to encourage cooperation and teamwork. You didn't have loot boxes because part of the fun was knowing where things like health and ammo boxes were, and then sniping those areas. Modern shooters want to monetize everything, so you get to see your character in third person, outfit them, there are mods you can purchase to give you an advantage. The focus has switched from the actual gameplay to building up your avatar. That's fine if you like that kind of thing, but personally I preferred the old style with the focus on the actual gameplay. Things like Capture the Flag felt more like a team sport, you would score for your side rather than winning points for your individual character.
Interesting topic as always. What genre do Pikmin, Patapon and the Overlord games qualify as? Minion management simulators? That’s where my mind went
I meaaan the new minecraft game has that vibe 😊
Damn, used to play the hell outta some Patapon
There's a new game, I think it's called Humanity, that's coming out where you're a spirit dog guiding humans to salvation and it's very minion management like.
i loved pikmin. what memories
I think those qualify as RTS lite.
Can't believe you didn't include point and click adventures like Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, and Sam and Max
Discworld, Grim Fandango and Myst are great point and click games that come to mind
RTS games are still my favorite Genre of all time. I remember in middle school in the mid 90's I played Warcraft 2 at my school and I was hooked after that. I played all of the RTS games during that time period well into the 2000's.
The fact that they don’t add split screen to the majority of multiplayer games is criminal 😂
The transition from old school arena shooters to modern multiplayer shooters highlights how the genre moved away (to a certain extent) from pure skill-based gameplay. Good or bad, depends on your pov, but it is still true today that skill can be somewhat compensated with a big enough gun.
The genre failed when they became dumbed down for consoles and controls in opposite became too cumbersome with a need to memorize a ton of shortcut combinations to even begin to play. Then publishers cranked up freemium hell and now you can't advance much wihout paying huge sum in real money over the price paid by game itself. Plus people began blatant cheating with bots.
The problem really with arena shooters is that the skill ceilling is often so high that it takes longer for players before they have trained enough to actually have fun.
Same could be said with rts but there its easier to balance players with Elo so they meet more equally skilled players. Just look at Aoe2:DE both simple and deep at same time and not as stressful to do stuff like in rts like starcraft.
Arena shooters works when its new and there are lots of both skilled and casual players but once the casuals starts to leave and only the skilled ones are left it becomes way harder to learn while having fun.
@@NisseDood Indeed casuals can't beat those skilled veterans and simply fall off. Also particular arena shooters seems tied to generations when these shooters was all the rage. At today Minecraft, PUBG and particularly Fortnite are popular between students and youth under 25. Who all are people with a lot of spare time. Generation of Quake Arena and Unreal Tournament are mostly over 40 and have other more significant things to do.
I need more large scale fps's
The OG gamers got old and their skill ceiling also lowered. :D
Hey Jake,
Just wanted to say thanks to you and your team for uploading amazing videos daily that keep us gamers entertained and informed.
Keep up the awesome work ♥️
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@@gameranxTV you guys did forget about Carmageddon, it was really popular in my friend group and a lot of people did like it..... btw never heard of Dave Mirra, we played Matt Hoffman pro bmx ! :D
oh hey, cool - didn't know he was a fellow Jake
Some of the newer vehicular combat games that are really big include
War thunder (Gaijin Entertainment 2013)
World of tanks (Wargaming 2010)
Crossout (Gaijin Entertainment 2017)
World of warships (Wargaming 2015)
Great video. Car combat is the one I miss the most. We dont see alot of 3D beat em ups either anymore. Hack N Slash is still around which is great. Really like that RPG elements have been added to those games. We dont get many beat em ups like God Hand anymore, or the Japanese humor that used to accompany them. Good soundtracks and memorable music has been pretty dead for me too, for a long time in games. Halo is one of the only modern games that had music that really stood out. Prior to that we had Metal Gear Solid series and going back much farther the 8 and 16 bit games were fuckin killin the soundtracks regularly. Its diminished much like game difficulty which has decreased on average each new console generation.
Without even having started the video, i just wanna say one of the most memorable parts of my gaming youth was the LucasArts point-and-click adventure games, a genre that is most definitely dead. From getting my mind blown by hearing actual voices in Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis to Sam and Max, Day of the Tentacle, Monkey Island, Full Throttle, and even The Dig, i ate them all up. Day of the Tentacle was the first game I ever owned on a CD.
The first pc game that made get into adventure was Myst, way back in 1995, playing at my neighbor. It was quite hard because english isn't our native language but we still finished after trying for a few days. And I did play many more titles since, being the Tex Murphy Adventure games my favorite series. In the past few years, we had many releases in this genre if you don't know, even Myst has been re-released and you can play with or without a RV set. I'm listing bellow my favorites:
Machinarium (2009)
Primordia (2012)
Room series (2014 till 2020 so far)
Skyhill (2015)
Technobabylon (2015)
VA-11 HALL-A: Cyberpunk Bartender Action (2016 ~ it's kind'a light novel + classic adventure)
Shardlight (2020)
The House of Da Vinci (2022)
Norco (2022)
Syberia: The World Before (2022)
Btw, this genre was never something that popular, games like Monkey Island, Grim Fandango and Full Throtte made the genre more know to the public but most people was more into FPS, RTS and Hack n Slash games. Still, we do have decent adventure releases lately, just have look for them!
I love all those! Kings quest, quest for glory and legend of kyrandia!
.....and phantasmagoria, playing that as a kid is the wrong move lol
lets not forget Leisure Suit Larry.....
Are you drunk, or just oblivious? The point-and-click adventure games have been and are still going strong 35 years later. Between a million one-off indie games, The Longest Journey series, EVERY Telltale game, and the Blackwell series - just to name a *small fraction*, there are still dozens if not hundreds of these released every year. Heck, there was even a brand new Monkey Island game released just recently.
@@joshmartin2744 a little bit of both tbh
One of the genres that feel completely gone are the old quick-time only games. Dragon's Lair I, II Time Warp & III, Space Ace. There was a hologram game in the arcade in the early 90's called Time Traveler took a lot of my quarters. Now we have button QTE games, but nothing like up - down - left - right and the occasional sword button. Thank you, Don Bluth!
Isn't that basically what Detroid Become Human, Heavy Rain, etc are?
@@praetorxyn No.
Ahhh Time Traveler. What a mind blowing yet frustrating game
Yeah and good riddance
Don't forget Mad Dog Mcree
So many different feelings rushing back from one video! I miss arena shooters and vehicle combat the most. I was just telling my friend about Vigilante 8. There's a 40k take on it coming out soon called Speed Freeks
The Toys to Life genre was my favourite growing up. But I say that now as an adult and not as a kid. Having family buy all the Disney Infinity figures and LEGO Dimensions packs for Christmas and birthdays made it easy, just had to wait.
But as an adult, I look back on the prices and I can’t believe how much it all cost. I ended up getting the bare essentials for each game, for Dimensions it was exclusively level packs and any figures that would not exist outside the line (Gremlins, Knight Rider ect) and for Disney Infinity it was maybe 10 figures total.
The pricing was definitely what got in the way given neither LEGO dimensions or Disney Infinity ended but rather they were cancelled. Tons of interesting stuff out there about what would have released for the themes around the 2016 and 2017 timeframe.
Would be fun to see a video on genres that are making a resurgence or that are just becoming big, I'd say tactical rpgs are in a big resurgence, fire emblem, tactics ogre and triangle strategy all came out recently in some form and are doing quite well as an example
We need a new Shining Force and Final Fantasy Tactics!
Extreme sports game are making resurgence because we got Tony Hawk 1 and 2 remake, Ridders Republic, Shreders, Rollerdome , SkaterXL, Olli Olli World, Descenders and new Skate and Jet set radio games are in development.
Plus several extreme sports games that were announced at THQ showcase
I miss Command and Conquer so much!
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Man I miss Lawbreakers. Some of the most fun I had with a MP shooter in the last decade. And I wasnt even that big of a arena shooter player back in the day as I am kinda too young for that. But Lawbreakers was just so good. Real shame not more people saw that.
Interesting topic, to the point that I thank you to bring this even when I don't agree with some of the points
10. Cinematic Platformers are actually more popular now than 20 years ago. Thing is, there was Prince of Persia, Flashback, Another World, Heart of Darkness, Bermuda Syndrome, a couple more obscure ones and that's it. Limbo brought the genre back big time, and the indie world has got the genre back mixing it with metroidvania.
8. I can take the RTS not being everywhere as in the 00s, but 3d platformer games are still there everywhere. Like everywhere.
And tying with 3, the game genres that have disappeared for me
1. Edutainment games, that kind of soft puzzle games for kids that had a lot of educational content, like Eco Quest, Carmen Sandiego, Doctor Brain. They basically vanished. And they were so fun!
2. LINEAR space games. There is the rare one from time to time, but most of them are focused on being a space Ayn Rand hero instead of saving the world. I am talking about the ones with heavily scripted missions, when suddenly after scanning an asteroid it turns out it is a giant enemy ship.
3. The very short lived genre of open space exploration/adventure/rpg game born out of Starflight and with the most well known example in Star Control 2. Yes, Mass Effect was there but all the elements that tied it to that old genre were eliminated in the sequels.
4. Puzzle games almost vanished. We were lucky the casual market recovered the genre, or well, at least we have thousand of match 3 variants.
5. More than sport games, the kind of Track and Field sport games based on minigames. There are some released from time to time (as the Mario and Sonic olympics) but it is not like the times we were having all the Epyx games mixed with the Decathlon etc.
6. Going back toi Space, Space rpgs consist on the huge exception from Bethesda and Bioware and then nothing else.
7. Hand animated games. I mean, of course. They were super expensive to make.
Can't believe you didnt mention Carmageddon for number 5. Literally the goat of that genre. Look at Carma2 (on PC) as an open world game when it came out. Way ahead of its time with the size of maps and visual fidelity.
I was looking for this comment. Carmageddon and also Interstate 76 were awesome
@@oericsso agreed 100% ❤
For RTS games, I think that Grand Strategy games are definitely also part of what happened. Things like Hearts of Iron, Crusader Kings, and Total War became really popular and mainstream.
RTS have some titles i see myself playing even 10 years later... Shame they are dwindling in numbers 😢
Then again, what more could they make out of the RTS genre that hadn't already been made?
As for me, I'd play an "old-fashioned" RTS if the campaign was good(with FMV cutscenes!), regardless if it was too innovative.
I was going to comment something like this until I seen yours. It's sad the RTS genre is dying but grand-strategy/4x are really on the rise. As someone who has 1300 hours in CK3, I'm okay with this.
@@VicerExciser Different genres. Grand strat/4x doesn't require fat twitch, high actions per minute, frantic clickathons.
I really enjoyed c&c, Universe At War:Earth Assault, and supreme commander, none of these modern turn-based grand strategy games even come close to the classics for me.
In #5 you talked about vehicle shooters, they nearly made a comeback with Robocraft on Steam, but after Microsoft liscensed it for Xbox 1 the design direction changed constantly and it became plagued with mechanical issues and imbalance.
Although it's a pale shadow of it's old self you can still play against bots and the last clan of pubstompers (I don't recommend playing against the clans)
Not mentioning Destruction Derby in the vehicular combat category was criminal
RTS and vehicle combat games are big one for me. RTS were a big reason I even got into PC gaming. Starcraft, Command & Conquer and Total Annihilation were my life in the late 90s and early 2000s. I still play Supreme Commander to this day. Really saddens me that we have very little to look forward to.
Twisted Metal was huge for me. I still lament the loss of it. So many hours spent fighting and unlocking secrets.
Try Crossout for vehicular combat;)
Funny as it is the Total Annihilation Community still exists. Granted it's very small but it's still there.
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I have its pretty fun though at the same time didn't quite have the same pizazz as Twisted Metal.
Rush 2049
This list just made me feel old. Besides the toys to life ones (except a few Amiibo), I loved at least one game from each of these at some point in my life.
With Twisted Metal and Vigilante 8, I've been on this train for a while saying that they would be perfect candidates for a Battle Royale game. Drop a bunch of cars out of cargo planes Fast and Furious style, have a massive map littered with weapon and vehicle upgrades, let the players mix and match to create crazy combinations and let people go crazy with them. Though I've been saying this for so long that the BR genre's glory days have passed and that it might be too late to bring these games back in this form.
"here are some genres that VANISHED"
"there's still some games made in this genre"
"there's still some games made in this genre"
"there's still some games made in this genre"
"there's still some games made in this genre"
How they haven't done a newer version of Twisted Metal is beyond me. Especially since (and it pains me to say it since it isn't what I would want as the main game), but with online multiplayer being so popular in things like Rocket League, a modern online version of Twisted Metal would have to sell relatively well.
My two dream genres to make a great game today would be vehicular combat (Twisted Metal style) and motorcycle racing combat (Road Rash/NFS Hot Pursuit style)
Its ridiculous that there's no cops and robbers game in existence
This world needs more RTS games
No it doesn’t, please no more RTS games, they SUCK! The world has TOO MANY RTS games.
This world needs more monkeys👴🏻
Gogorg but I am cool 😢super cool like a man😂
@@k29king1 what do you mean "TOO MANY"
@@BgYaannn therevis not alor of beer in my Breath
I was overjoyed this past few years to see Mechwarrior and Armored Core make a comeback with two different styles of mech games.
Maaan I was really hoping to see the 6DOF (6 Degrees of Freedom) genre here. Essentially an FPS but you're in a space ship in tight, enclosed spaces instead of wide open space sims. The newest one I know of is called Overload and it's an absolute banger, Descent 3 was my childhood.
Couldn’t help reminisce about road rash when you were talking about vehicle combat. What a great game for its time. This list was great by the way! I feel so old now 😭
Road rash got hinted in one of the
Need for speed games but nonthing
Came through.
I grew up on going to arcades. I actually set a high score on a fps alien shooter for my birthday in 3rd grade. Worth every quarter.
Talking about RTS without mentioning any Paradox RTS (EU4, CK2/3, HOI4, Victoria 3, etc.) is a pretty big oversight
I really like Warhammer 40k Dawn of War I and II and all the ad-ons on them.
I started RTS gaming on Sega Megadrive with Dune II: Battle for Arrakis in early 90s.
I miss the vehicular combat genre. I spent so much time playing Twisted Metal: Black back in the day.
Another one is true Stealth games where the game absolutely punishes you for trying to go ballistic. Although not entirely dead and a lot of games use the stealth mechanic in a sense, it's rare breed. Last true Stealth game I played was Aragami.
Very true -- stealth is seemingly more of a mechanic or strategy in games than a genre. In true stealth games, the game was based on stealth.
Regarding Stealth, nothing compares to my first experience playing Splinter Cell 1. What a game.
Thief
Styx: Master of Shadows (2014) and Styx: Shards of Darkness (2017) might meet the criteria.
Serial cleaner maybe?
The light gun game genre died out more because the industry couldn't find a way to make light guns work with flat screen TV tech like plasma and LCD. The best that could be done was tech that used light bars, and that didn't allow for consistent calibration when changing position. Only recently with the Sinden light gun can you play light gun games with perfect precision no matter what angle you move to in relation to the screen. Only, it's too little too late for light gun games (unless the indie scene develops new games just for that light gun).
I don't know how you miss Point-and-Click Adventure games man. I grew up on the old Sierra and LucasArts point-and-click adventures, and they were a big deal. I would also suggest "Comedy Games" which commonly overlapped with those Point-and-Click adventures.