When I am in confusion, how is it possible to see clearly? | J. Krishnamurti
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- San Diego, California 1971 - Question #1 from Discussion with Students #1
'When I am in confusion, how is it possible to see clearly?'
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Even if all the wealth of humanity sacrificed in a fire altar causes such a being to exist, it is a very cheap deal to have this invaluable gem of humanity.
But such as himself surely do exist…? Search my friend. Surely, many do.
True..
Krishnamurti would smack you, Dhruv. 😂
It’s like looking in a muddy water, let it settle and then you will be clearer ✨☮️
An angel incarnated on the Earth! 🌸
WoW!
Words of Wisdom!
Great J.K!!
Don't expect anything else
Clarity is Action!!
🙏u are very wise and humble.... i see his sincerity to help people...GREAT TREASURE TO THIS WORLD
Guys this is priceless
When you're confused, you become unsure of everything and easily paranoid. That's when you really can't know what to do because everything feels so unpredictable.
It can be a build up of doing too much or too little, regardless you now have to do absolutely nothing. You can't act on the choices your mind gives because it's in the same state of confusion.
He's right, you have to be alone and face the truth when it comes to you, and it will when you stop all actions and efforts
engage in life with a positive reaction to invite opportunities of a clear tommorrow.
JK is saying the same thing in so many different ways time and again: Just be aware...Be choice-less!
Yes choiceless awareness
If you do a lil of what Wim Hof does, or just place yourself in a position that forces your awareness into your body, it helps turn off your unconscience jabbering.
@@castingpearlsbeforesuenos3368 not related
You see?...you have already chosen to be "Choiceless"
@@kaushaltomar8627 this cycle literally makes us end the talking 😂
Powerful talk ! Thank you !
This man was a genius
Beautiful
At last we get aligned❤️
Superb!!!
Mind blowing words 🙏🙏🙏🔥🔥
Thank you Jiddu Krishnamurti ❤️
Cannot thank enough for these🙏
When you are confused, stop the action and have a deep knowledge on things you have confused. So that, that knowledge will set you free to see clearly .
Too bad there aren't more clips of him when he was at this age and younger. Full of energy. Explosive even.
Anything is enough no need for yearning
Just grateful for what we have …
He kept on
Yeah I wonder why they are not available.
So beautiful
🤗OH!!!!!
I WISH I HAD MET HIM FACE TO FACE🤗😙😗😍
BUT ALL THE SAME AM VERY GRATEFUL TO HEAR THESE PRICELESS LECTURES👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
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I believe in you sir
You had been simplifying stuff with such an ease.
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We all need to know how to question something and get truth about it... From him....
Good
We stop doing things instantly!!staying silent and calm to have our brain clear!!and then start action!!
Yesterday I am very confused.. today randomly this video got in UA-cam
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Thank u the master, I have got something from ur video.
meditation.
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Confusion - more confusion - classification of confusion - stop choosing - don't choose in confusion - lost in forest - stop and look around - No action - be alone -clarity - and clarity is action...
@@vhawk1951kl Can you elaborate please?
@@vhawk1951kl yes please can you elaborate ?
Yep, that's the short summary.
There's no choice in love
tysm 12/12/2023
6:30 pm
follow mos def without action or choice of course… dig it
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Nice Sir🙏 STOP Doing Everything (Acting) ->Then You Are Alone -> Brings Clarity (Shows The Right Path)-> Brings a Good Action!!
Is it correct to think that, for example, giving yourself a day or two to not do anything or maybe even meditation to just sit there without any goal, just to focus attention on breath or something, is a good way? Or lets even dismiss the meditation and leave it to that- you wake up and not do anything, just walk around, lay on the bed or whatever.
Gedas do whatever u feel like, but dont commit to anything
I’ve been alone like that many times over the years.
Yet not doing anything & being alone doesn’t really bring much clarity anymore. What is one to do; then?
Surya Ananda I would say to pose such a question is still a desire thus a choice to change. This exact concentration is the exact same thing that should be changed or as krishnamurti would say “to be mutated”. Thus, it’s to be free from the dependencies to learn and search.
@@suryaananda8362 Being alone not only physically, but psychologicaly.
Perhaps, if you will, that once one truly learns to live in the moment, that in itself will be the act of doing nothing, nothing but whatever is going on in the moment... In essence NOT thinking of the past it future which is where fear and confusion is born.. your thought process is mostly past thoughts and imagination, the past is gone and you imagine what it used to be, the future hasn't happened yet so most conjure up the worst outcomes and possibilities of situations and fall to the distraction of them.. thus if you are able to remain in the moment, you're not as confused or scared of anything, even death, because you're completely focused on the moment.. ex: in class, learning a chapter, if you're in the moment, you're actually learning and not distracted by anything, fast forward to test, logic says you should be able to regurgitate the information you learned therefore, nothing to "worry" about because the test shouldn't "confuse" you.... I think lol I'm still trying to figure the stuff out myself honestly 👍👍🤗🤔
Enquiry sir, We can't change past and from the present we can change the future.The past is It is so,it can't be otherwise.
Well said. To elaborate, it seems as if to be in the moment there can be no judgment. Judgment requires choice, choice is the fruit of confusion. Choice creates duality which is in itself conflict. "It is what it is."
I guess what he simply meant was to focus on present and give your best so you might have better future cause past is no more and untouchable.
Dictum for me is in enquiry about confused mind.
Mind is not source of knowledge, but it manipulates knowledge to aid action.
Calm mind going for truth is a natural selection.
Manoratha on move and the chariot is to be chopped from action to halt first because of our predisposition.
JK sir, is a good cutting edge for change and a lot of scientific research will go into future generations and mind sciences.
If u see cofusion clearly, it is clarity.
If I don't feel confused, that may be even worse.
Please adding subtitles
Be clear ,what you see and fix it in your brain even if is not clear, then there won't be any confusion!!!
The whole humanity is in confusion course.
My dad said me, if u are tensed wait a minute before u do an action.
"Then you are... ALONE!" HaHaHa!!!!
What to do if you have to choose? Also, even doing nothing is a choosing. Choosing to do nothing. One is not on neutral ground here...
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Commit your self to nothing, be open to every thing... exactly opp. To what society teach es from childhood..JK is true 🙏 society ruined me ,so taking advice from JK
i am very confused...?
health and relationships
if health is not ok. how to maintain relationships?. struggling relationships and career..
this is very big puzzle in my life and times is gone 😢😢😭⏳
😢😢😢
i am feel helpless
Bet that works in the contexts to what he is referring; however, doubt you would pass your exams with it- in such cases maybe best to work with what you know to derive the unknown- like filling a crossword puzzle.
optizap Yeah, all these things are in some idealized world where the whole world is just for your own spiritual development.
I'd say the opposite, if confused, do stuff to get kicked out of confusion. Go for a walk, talk to friends or random people, shuffle your cards. If you don't do anything, nothing changes obviously. Just sitting around will not tell you what to do. It may calm you down, but that's the age old technique of counting to 10 or giving it a night's sleep.
qorilla The thing is if your search for an answer in stress it may taught thinking and funnel the mind or create compulsion. Sometimes best just to let go for a while. Certainly consider not answering thinking with emotion by watching emotion so knowledge can freely flow be it incorrect or correct until it finds the best truthful answer from a referential level.
optizap There are different kinds of stress. There is productive excitement, flow kind of stress (adrenaline, faster heartbeat etc) and it can be great. These Eastern philosophies seem to suggest that only this calm, neutral, detached, "I don't care", "nothing matters" kind of mindset is productive.
Now, obsessive, unproductive, panic-like thought patterns are bad, we agree here. But if you say "just stop it" is like saying to a fat man to "just don't eat that much and just go exercise". I don't think there is a fully general method.
And instead of thinking too hard about how to think, one should realize the pointlessness of it. I can't make anyone realize it by words. One has to do what needs to be done. I like the zen point of view that says that these things don't have to be conceptualized. Just do the next thing. When hungry, eat. When eaten, go wash your bowl. Go chop wood. Take part in the dance. You're there already. Confusion arises when these things aren't clear. But it doesn't mean you have to be a cold cynical bastard.
I'd also say that frustration should not be compulsively avoided. It can be a great source of knowing yourself. But you shouldn't induce it.
And above all, don't treat any of this kind of advice or discussion as set in stone. These are all just text. It can't overwrite reality. It is the way it is.
qorilla Asking if what one is referring to still exists in silence can be useful in peeling off those meta layers into the actual. However, compulsions tends to be where a feeling gets hooked to an idea, and can be looped around being unable to find an emotional answer,unless you watch deeply and de-construct the emotion answering thought and thought answering emotion entanglement. Referential knowledge does not require emotion to find a near truth referencing, 5 + 5 = 10 is still 10 without embellishing with emotion. You can however also study emotion and thought from deep watching.
optizap Very good. Thanks for the discussion!
It is not easy job to clarify confusion,if you engage in clarification don’t come back until confusion is extirpated,otherwise you will invite tremendous confusion.
And what good way to do that is, sir? maybe you know?
@@gedas7058 be with yourself don’t seek to get rid of frm confusion..love your confusion..wht if you are destined to live with confusion,,love whatever you have..do love which state of mind engulfs you🙏🏼🙏🏼
why is clarity itself action?
What is meant is that (right) action follows clarity.
For normal people this is evident only in extreme cases, like a truck heading directly towards you, or any such kind of perception of imminent danger. Then, there is instant action.
K says the same thing is true of all circumstances, not just of imminent danger. (right) action ALWAYS follows clarity, or, in other words, clarity is itself action.
How do u live if u don't commit yourself to any action?
Clarity is action. Action out of confusion brings abou destruction.
What about when the confusion stems from a family and kids you commited to raising? You can't just not commit to them. It would be irresponsible.
If you love them, you don't need to commit to anything, you just do it out of love.
the word "commitment" as K uses here is perhaps conveying that it's a form of psychological attachment and hence is a trace of conflict and confusion....and therefore in the last part he talks about clearing of mind from all its baggage because through the free mind only do something real can come out..
Is that really from where the confusion stems? The poor children!
you can not accept anything ever it can be true or false
0:45 really?
Stop action during confusion
Chop
Correct me if I am wrong. In Confusion, just Stop is Meditation, look without comment.
When I am in confusion, how is it possible to see clearly??? easy... listen to more Krishnamurti speeches and you'll be confused forever lol
U are not applying this teaching in right way...
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