Modern Horizons is Banned! | Gruul Eldrazi vs Esper Mentor

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  • @CardmarketMagic
    @CardmarketMagic  2 роки тому +18

    🐙👨‍🏫 Decklists: bit.ly/3fVH7z1

  • @jaminkauf6242
    @jaminkauf6242 2 роки тому +565

    After our Pauper games I should've known that Toffel is very good at topdecking 5-drops

    • @badvoodoo2097
      @badvoodoo2097 2 роки тому +2

      Your deck could have used tolarian terror or murktide
      You could have put more pressure much faster
      Also they can block efficiently on reality smasher

    • @ryanpattison6
      @ryanpattison6 2 роки тому +11

      @Bad Voodoo good idea on the terror but murktide is a MH2 card, gurmag angler would be the next best thing, it's also possible this video was made before DMU released

    • @fiercedeitylink2019
      @fiercedeitylink2019 Рік тому +1

      @@ryanpattison6 founding of the third path is a dmu card

    • @jugglingdynamite21
      @jugglingdynamite21 Рік тому

      Why does Toffel always draw whatever card was last said? 😂

  • @Moersfreak
    @Moersfreak 2 роки тому +277

    The intro alone deserves my upvote, I don't even care what happens for the rest of the video! (figuratively, I very much want to see the video)

  • @patrickjohnguevarra1974
    @patrickjohnguevarra1974 2 роки тому +169

    Can this be a series of videos
    This sure is an amazing concept
    A format without MH cards

    • @Audentior_Ito
      @Audentior_Ito 2 роки тому +10

      Please!!! No MH-Modern is up there with pauper as one of my favorite "people's formats"

    • @jaredstivers
      @jaredstivers Рік тому +3

      ​@@Audentior_Ito and no one Ring or Orc. LotR set nuked as well.

  • @miloreinhart
    @miloreinhart 2 роки тому +96

    "There is no omnath!"
    Zendikar Rising: Am I a joke to you?

    • @behemoth1158
      @behemoth1158 2 роки тому +23

      I also thought that at first but I think they meant the whole deck, cause glimpse and a lot of the other things they play is gone

    • @casaroli
      @casaroli 2 роки тому +1

      I think he mixed it up with Wrenn and Six.

  • @mercadepalmer6967
    @mercadepalmer6967 2 роки тому +124

    This was awesome. Crazy how pushed the MH sets are in hindsight

    • @richardsmith9615
      @richardsmith9615 2 роки тому +6

      They are nuts, but do you think maybe the reason they're so prevalent is because the goalposts for the metagame changed?

  • @Asian_Caleb
    @Asian_Caleb 2 роки тому +46

    The editing it must have taken to show us the cards in hand is super cool, very much worth the effort whoever is responsible for that!

  • @vinterbjork4128
    @vinterbjork4128 2 роки тому +162

    Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I don’t like sets for specific formats, neither Modern or EDH. Reprint are fine, but when theres auto include cards it makes the format feel so restricted.

    • @Vi0ar
      @Vi0ar 2 роки тому +35

      I completely agree with the exception of standard, but that almost goes without saying. When they print for modern they are invalidating 20 years and 104 sets for 2 sets. Over 20,000 are replaced by 600ish

    • @RisottoNero-z1w
      @RisottoNero-z1w 2 роки тому +4

      But it makes Hasbro a lot of MONYyyy

    • @Audentior_Ito
      @Audentior_Ito 2 роки тому +7

      Agreed. It's why pioneer is far & away my favorite format. Much more accessible/affordable & functions as modern was intended to ("wow - I love this standard deck, how can I keep playing it?")

    • @blaccoffee1
      @blaccoffee1 Рік тому +10

      As mostly a commander only player, I HATE almost any legendary creature printed in the last 10 years because they have this problem of being a commander all star. There's no "building around it" anymore, it's just "what does the card tell me my deck should have in it and do".

    • @Nosphal
      @Nosphal Рік тому

      @@blaccoffee1 totally agree with you!

  • @aggedon7483
    @aggedon7483 2 роки тому +37

    You guys make the best MTG content on UA-cam! After watching through the whole feature match playlist I look forward to the matches every week! 🙂

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  2 роки тому +10

      That's so kind! We'll try our best to make it worth it for you in the future :)

  • @poiri
    @poiri 2 роки тому +40

    7:50 I’m pretty sure fatal pushing the reshaper would work here since there’s no targeting restriction and by the time the push resolves the founding trigger is off the stack and so the saga is sacrificed.

    • @jaminkauf6242
      @jaminkauf6242 2 роки тому +9

      But don't you have to cast the spell during resolution of III? During the game I actually thought about it, but it says 'sacrifice after III' and casting seems to be part of III
      I might be wrong and am willing to learn better :D

    • @poiri
      @poiri 2 роки тому +24

      @@jaminkauf6242 casting the spell is done during the resolution of the third chapter ability however fatal push can target anything even if it can't destroy it at the time. Once fatal push has been cast the chapter ability has finished resolving though fatal push is still on the stack. With the final chapter resolved the saga will be sacrificed as a state based action, then fatal push will resolve with active revolt.
      Please note: I am not a judge, though I am quite confident about this being correct.

    • @commonfolk4864
      @commonfolk4864 2 роки тому +14

      @@poiri That's right, this if how it works. Fatal push doesn't restrict the targeting, nor it "choose" effect. You target, saga sacrifices itself, on resolve it checks for revolt (and it checks true) and destroys the seer

    • @jaminkauf6242
      @jaminkauf6242 2 роки тому +12

      @@poiri ah yeah, that makes sense - the saga doesn't wait around for resolution, it only cares about casting.

    • @abusus75
      @abusus75 2 роки тому +1

      This is correct

  • @GATECHMANgames
    @GATECHMANgames 2 роки тому +35

    Yo! I’m a demon, you get a wish 😂😂😂

  • @blade6321
    @blade6321 2 роки тому +20

    This was a delight to watch. Great sketch/premise and lots of fun. The top deck had me wheezing!

  • @janisschock9191
    @janisschock9191 2 роки тому +16

    Quite possibly the best content on this channel so far. A lot of fun to watch!! Would be fun to watch some other 'makebelieve' episodes, maybe something with some modified or completely custom cards.

  • @Luna19912
    @Luna19912 2 роки тому +13

    Hey, you actually played my list! Thanks! It was really fun to see in action

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  2 роки тому +3

      It's actually an awesome deck! It feels really powerful 🙂

    • @Luna19912
      @Luna19912 2 роки тому +1

      @@CardmarketMagic Thanks! I'm really glad you liked it!

    • @Luna19912
      @Luna19912 2 роки тому +1

      @@CardmarketMagic I could probably afford to run fewer lands tho

  • @aeksie
    @aeksie 2 роки тому +12

    I think Toffel went crazy. He talks about weird OP cards that he made up and whats "modern horizons" supposed to mean?

  • @raccoonhatcity7627
    @raccoonhatcity7627 2 роки тому +2

    I rarely like a video before reaching the end... But that intro 🧑‍🍳 * chef kiss *

  • @hopeforthebestx
    @hopeforthebestx 2 роки тому +17

    This was an amazing video. Really fantastic content. Thanks for existing, keep it up. Also that was a really sneaky veil play in game 3, wow

  • @Arcticsharpshooter
    @Arcticsharpshooter 2 роки тому +14

    Amazing video! I feel like I have watched a whole movie with good plot, and based on my favorite hobby no less! Thank you Cardmarket, wonderful idea and execution!

  • @Ragnarok633
    @Ragnarok633 2 роки тому +4

    Between this and the last pauper match you guys look like you're having so much fun and these are my favorite videos.

  • @TimEddyHughes
    @TimEddyHughes Рік тому +1

    As little as it matters now, you *would* get revolt off the Fatal Push. 7:43
    The way it works is you target the Instant/Sorcery in the graveyard, and resolve the abilitiy - exiling and and copying it, allowing you to cast the copy. Once you 'finish' resolving that trigger, the Founding would be put into the GY as a state based action and 'trigger' revolt.

    • @therealax6
      @therealax6 Рік тому +1

      Funnily enough, this only works because of how Fatal Push is worded! Since it allows you to target any creature (and it only checks mana value on resolution), you can target the 4 mana value creature even before a permanent has left the battlefield. (Since you're casting Fatal Push as part of the resolution of Founding the Third Path's ability, the latter isn't sacrificed until Fatal Push is already on the stack.)

  • @TimmytheSorcerer
    @TimmytheSorcerer Рік тому +3

    28:10 I so agree, mistakes happen and as someone who records most of his matches, I'm also often confronted with my own mistakes, but that's part of what makes this game so interesting :D On to Game 3!

    • @Threadoflength
      @Threadoflength Рік тому

      Hmm, my first thought on seeing that play was that he was throwing on purpose for content.

  • @SeleenShadowpaw
    @SeleenShadowpaw 2 роки тому +1

    Toffel being all happy and excited is my new spirit animal :D

  • @huggernaut55
    @huggernaut55 2 роки тому +5

    Pfft! The opening is gold : ) And it was really fun to see some of the new cards play with old modern decks. It's like a window into what modern would look like if it added a few great cards over time rather than, well, you know : )

  • @transegg7780
    @transegg7780 2 роки тому +6

    Happy Thoralf makes me happy. Awesome gameplay yet again!

  • @btrbt8613
    @btrbt8613 2 роки тому +5

    "Kari Zev costs two." 😂😂😂

  • @KorGgenT
    @KorGgenT 2 роки тому +2

    toffel's excitement made me excited. also i love the outro

  • @michaelstapley4878
    @michaelstapley4878 Рік тому

    That intro with Toffel was adorable. One of the most amusing videos I've watched in a while.

  • @RisottoNero-z1w
    @RisottoNero-z1w 2 роки тому

    0:38 oh, boy. I know the feeling.

  • @RoninRose541
    @RoninRose541 2 роки тому +9

    Y’all’s content is so good keep it coming please!!!!!😂❤

  • @AnonYmous-et4mz
    @AnonYmous-et4mz 2 роки тому

    I adore the little skits and lovingly crafted intros. This was very fun :)

  • @sen_dev
    @sen_dev 2 роки тому +1

    I love you guys.
    I don't even play Pioneer or Modern and binged watch most of your feature matches!

  • @chesanceram4842
    @chesanceram4842 2 роки тому +1

    The intro! Magnificent! :D

  • @Arcticsharpshooter
    @Arcticsharpshooter 2 роки тому

    I've got one observation for your Production team, Cardmarket. Toffel's commentary at 29:32 didn't make much sense because he had not drawn his Veil of Summer yet. I even thought at first that he may have mixed up the Boreal Druid and the Veil, but then I noticed he mentions both. This fragment should have been inserted after him drawing the Veil of Summer - then it made sense for him to change his intended turn 3 play.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  2 роки тому +1

      We tried an a new freelance editor. We spotted the mistake too late, there will always be some growing pains when adding new people to the team :)
      - Carl

  • @antoniopaolucci8194
    @antoniopaolucci8194 Рік тому

    These video are so well produced. Definitely the best magic content on youtube.

  • @Legend0fBarry
    @Legend0fBarry 2 роки тому +1

    i love how they committed to the bit, so funny haah

  • @TheWaffletron9000
    @TheWaffletron9000 2 роки тому +1

    Love the content guys! Would really love to get into modern one day and your vids fuel that love of the game!

  • @owenyates6046
    @owenyates6046 2 роки тому +3

    Love these two together! More please!

  • @AAIIYAAA
    @AAIIYAAA 2 роки тому +5

    Keep the mini skits. They’re AWESOME

  • @rileynelson8560
    @rileynelson8560 2 роки тому

    I think this was my favorite video yet. You guys are awesome!

  • @jamesfilyawDigginGabe
    @jamesfilyawDigginGabe Рік тому

    Giddy-as-can-be Thoralf was so adorable and genuinely made my day.

  • @naruyashan
    @naruyashan 5 місяців тому

    I know I'm late to the party, but I'd love to see more of this. It was super refreshing!

  • @alvarogordillonunez5726
    @alvarogordillonunez5726 Рік тому

    I'm really in love with all the effort you put in this videos. KEEP IT UP

  • @YoSoyJu
    @YoSoyJu 2 роки тому +3

    After watching the Professor’s latest video, I would love to see you guys build what you think would be the best Modern decks in a fetchless world.

  • @EAD6031
    @EAD6031 2 роки тому

    Clear explanations and you guys are fun to watch playing. A delight

  • @piotrsykut6999
    @piotrsykut6999 Рік тому

    around ~8:00 there was consideration of casting fatal push from Founding's 3rd chapter, but you've said it doesn't get revolt - I'm conviced it does. As the chapter 3 resolves it exiles the spell from GY and creates a copy on the stack. After 3rd chapter resolution, the ability goes away from the stack, leaving only Fatal Push and the saga would sacrifice itself due to chapter 3 being put down from the stack. Am I wrong here?

  • @mikemoyer8162
    @mikemoyer8162 2 роки тому +1

    You get +1 for the intro alone. You'd get one anyways, but that intro was great

  • @maaikevreugdemaker9210
    @maaikevreugdemaker9210 2 роки тому

    Videos like these are amazing because they showcase the cards! Love it

  • @alecolson8360
    @alecolson8360 2 роки тому +2

    I love your sideboard discussions

  • @chesanceram4842
    @chesanceram4842 2 роки тому +2

    BTW Thoralf running 7th edition lands! He is a man of culture :)

  • @cadrenadams9109
    @cadrenadams9109 Рік тому

    I have only seen toffel sitting at a desk. I had no clue how short he was until other homie stood up 😂

  • @kurtgrgelwrx8376
    @kurtgrgelwrx8376 2 роки тому

    that intro is glorious, love it

  • @Sunbro4464
    @Sunbro4464 2 роки тому +7

    the correct timeline

  • @yes.thatjanedoe
    @yes.thatjanedoe Рік тому

    love how in this alternate reality, Murderous Cut is the best removal spell

  • @bananalord3882
    @bananalord3882 2 роки тому

    Godd I wish I could like so many of your videos more than once and this is just adding to the list

  • @awizardwithwords994
    @awizardwithwords994 4 місяці тому +1

    Still waiting for this to become an actual format lmfao

  • @matigow
    @matigow 2 роки тому

    Please do more of these! This is really fun

  • @charginggemo
    @charginggemo Рік тому

    "There's no omnath!"
    Me:looks at my commanderless commander deck

  • @Repaurcas
    @Repaurcas 2 роки тому

    Very nice Video, I loved it!
    I think there was a bauble Trigger missed in Game 3, but I don't think it mattered :)

  • @poketech7192
    @poketech7192 2 роки тому

    THIS IS MY FAVORITE FEATURE MATCH YET.

  • @yes.thatjanedoe
    @yes.thatjanedoe Рік тому

    That Outro music is such a BOP!

  • @lucasamoncio6402
    @lucasamoncio6402 2 роки тому +1

    The good ending universe, I bet their 30th anniversary product is banger

  • @bombarded15
    @bombarded15 2 роки тому

    Loved the intro, top notch guys!

  • @Kakerate2
    @Kakerate2 2 роки тому

    i love the meta breaking the third wall bit :D
    can you credit the instrumentals?
    backseat gamer in me is saying 24:00 drown the obligator would be the move ;D playing around veil though
    The obligator trigger says target creature, so even letting it resolve youd be able to drown ledger in resp, right?

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  2 роки тому

      The music is all taken off of a paid subscription website called artlist that you can download music made for content creation from. If there is a specific song you want to know about, you can give us a time stamp and we can try to look for it :)

    • @HurricaneGregor
      @HurricaneGregor 2 роки тому

      Re: your Obligator question--
      Not entirely sure what you're suggesting by drowning the Obligator. It's a cast trigger, so you'd only be countering or killing the 3/1 body, but the threaten effect would still happen.
      And yes, he could've drowned the Ledger Shredder in response to the threaten trigger. But then Toffel would have 2 additional mana to work with (since you pay the cost on resolution), which could've been relevant. Say, for example, play an Eldrazi Temple into Reality Smasher. So yeah, those Obligator turns were really interesting if you break it down player by player instead of having full information.

    • @Kakerate2
      @Kakerate2 2 роки тому +1

      @@HurricaneGregor OHH, missed that it wasnt an ETB trigger, thanks for pointing that out. havent played R eldrazi in a good while

    • @Kakerate2
      @Kakerate2 2 роки тому

      @@CardmarketMagic the instrumental at 4:06 please!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  2 роки тому

      @@Kakerate2 Here you go!
      ua-cam.com/video/Box-wXAiKJc/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Playallsounds

  • @the7569
    @the7569 2 роки тому +1

    even though there are definitely some fun cards in modern horizons 1&2 I don't think that it is a hot take for me to say I wish they were never made. like it's fine for the metagame of modern to evolve and change and some decks to become less playable and some more playable, but my main problem with these modern horizons sets has been the fact that I feel like most of my cards are useless. like the collection that's been built over years of playing magic in this format and only a few of those cards and almost the entirety of modern horizons is worth playing. it's like outside of my fetches and shocks non modern horizons cards are actually Staples I want to keep in my decks. not to mention and I know that this is going to sound evil but it is true, I love infect. I have been an infect player for a very long time now and modern horizons just murdered that deck. this was a really fun look into an alternate timeline that I wish was real

    • @Persillebalzm
      @Persillebalzm 2 роки тому +1

      it's like *gasps* standard rotation

  • @mosgon
    @mosgon Рік тому

    Hilarious intro! Keep up the great work!

  • @Starkipraggy
    @Starkipraggy 9 місяців тому

    that stinger is gold, I laughed my socks off

  • @phrikaphrak40k
    @phrikaphrak40k 2 роки тому +2

    Wow, interactive and (almost) no free spells. Truly a better timeline

  • @joelhatterini6392
    @joelhatterini6392 3 місяці тому +1

    I want this to be our reality

  • @betabrett0223
    @betabrett0223 2 роки тому

    I really enjoyed the intro and gameplay, thanks

  • @SassyCasserole
    @SassyCasserole 2 роки тому +1

    Can you do another "no MH" modern? I LOVED this. Would definitely watch over other modern gameplay. Loving all your content, keep it up!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  2 роки тому +3

      We're planning on doing one, but not too too soon after the last one. Maybe in a few months if MH2 is still taking modern hostage :)

    • @SassyCasserole
      @SassyCasserole 2 роки тому

      @@CardmarketMagic wonderful thank you! Keep up the good work!

  • @Heavymetalhunk
    @Heavymetalhunk 2 роки тому

    My gruul Eldrazi deck is running all the Titans plus eureka, hideaway lands, and more sneaky stuff haha I love it cause death comes outta nowhere

  • @CosmicEncounter7
    @CosmicEncounter7 6 місяців тому

    Jamin's acting skills are top tier in this episode.

  • @chadjehebej2258
    @chadjehebej2258 2 роки тому +5

    What a match🔥
    If you can, please play Oops all spells next time you play modern :)

  • @AricHaldan0782
    @AricHaldan0782 2 роки тому +1

    It's funny how Toffel is explaining why targeting the mentor was a mistake without realizing he actually had a great attack in the end. This is probably because he forgot that mentor had already grown from the prowess triggers. As a result, he had 3 lethal attackers while Jamin had only 3 blockers. Ledger Shredder was only a 4/5, so it would be forced to chump block the reality smasher. Of course targeting the shredder could've given him lethal by conniving himself, so it might still have been better to pick Shredder.

    • @nadoghost146
      @nadoghost146 2 роки тому +1

      Shredder is a 1/3 with 3 counters, it won't die

  • @austinwilburn1772
    @austinwilburn1772 6 місяців тому +3

    A 2/1 one drop with dash… why are you mentioning some random old Tarkir mechanic? That literally has nothing to do with modern.

  • @waves-
    @waves- Рік тому +1

    I loved the skit at the start :D

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! We planned it for a really long time ahead of the video :D

  • @DackKija
    @DackKija 2 роки тому +1

    Poor Jamin (9:05)

  • @Kratosauron0
    @Kratosauron0 2 роки тому +7

    How long did it take to make that summoning circle?

  • @Scottynsb765
    @Scottynsb765 Рік тому

    Jamin’s commitment to the bit was so good 😂

  • @ShadowWasntHere8433
    @ShadowWasntHere8433 2 роки тому +1

    I forgot Unearth was made modern-legal in MH1

  • @Razomka
    @Razomka 2 роки тому

    Excellent matches and really enjoyed the ending skit! It would be true as well 😆

  • @stormcountmtg4183
    @stormcountmtg4183 2 роки тому +5

    Now we can build a jund deck

    • @janmelantu7490
      @janmelantu7490 2 роки тому

      Sometimes you gotta just Jund ‘em out

  • @GeomancerHT
    @GeomancerHT Рік тому

    Fatally pushing the bird to a wall.. you can also fatally push an arrow through its body XD

  • @bentudman
    @bentudman 2 роки тому

    Love the backstory intro!

  • @renatoalves-diariodemercad3012
    @renatoalves-diariodemercad3012 2 роки тому

    Thoralf explanations are perfect! Thanks

  • @Filip-uo2sq
    @Filip-uo2sq Рік тому

    This feels so refreshing! Love it.

  • @Polyphemus89
    @Polyphemus89 8 місяців тому

    In the second game Thoralf could’ve just swung for lethal because he had prot blue so the ledger shredder couldn’t block.

  • @smartkaboose3806
    @smartkaboose3806 2 роки тому

    That reality smasher off the top was so fucking funny 😂😂😂

  • @redblackdg
    @redblackdg 2 роки тому

    Should have kept track of the Mentor. He could have assigned lethal to the mentor that was reanimated. Making it get exiled so you could not reanimate it again in game 2

  • @luismiguelfigueiredopalerm8470

    Guys, when jamin cast his first " can't stay away", i think there is a missplay, because he taps a island and a watery grave, but " can't stay away" costs a black and a white.
    Am i correct ?????
    I'm Brazilian, so i possibly have wrote some words in the wrong way, Sorry :))))

  • @AutkastKain
    @AutkastKain 2 роки тому

    23:40 couldn't the drown just counter the Eldrazi Obligator? Am I missing something?

  • @christopherpie8559
    @christopherpie8559 2 роки тому +1

    I wish that this happened in real life, I never even played modern very actively, but it's clear how much the Modern Horizons stuff wrecked the format.

  • @Bagmon
    @Bagmon 2 роки тому

    What do you all think? New Format worthy?!
    I wonder how long it’ll be before people start a format with Modern Horizon’s (and any other direct to Modern card) banned.

  • @BW-CZ
    @BW-CZ 2 роки тому +2

    Demon Carl was amazing lol

  • @olio16
    @olio16 2 роки тому

    I love Thoralf's performance in this.

  • @ryan254ful
    @ryan254ful 2 роки тому

    Love the idea guys keep it up!

  • @igorkruzhalov9749
    @igorkruzhalov9749 2 роки тому

    That's a great video!
    for the next one, would you consider a relentless rats deck? ideally the edh one

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  2 роки тому +1

      That's a super fun idea! But unfortunately, it would probably make for rather poor content 😕

    • @igorkruzhalov9749
      @igorkruzhalov9749 2 роки тому

      @@CardmarketMagic yeah, that makes sense, thank you for your response anyway!

  • @cameronkueneman2519
    @cameronkueneman2519 2 роки тому

    Wouldn't in game 1 the third path getting it's third counter send it to the graveyard? Since there are no more chapters it is sacrificed as a state based effect? The trigger would be on the stack as the saga is sacrificed...
    Pretty sure, could be wrong. Interesting interaction!

  • @MrStrigori
    @MrStrigori 2 роки тому

    this was delightful. subbed

  • @hermelin12
    @hermelin12 2 роки тому +6

    Very nice concept to play like we would play in a world without mh1 and 2
    I like how demons grant wishes now lol. Best actor demon Carl :D