You’re playing Aphelios WRONG, here’s why.. - Daynean Rotation Guide

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  • @leaf1208
    @leaf1208 10 місяців тому +626

    "That's a lot, but, there's still more"
    Aphelios mains: Good

  • @RoseAlune
    @RoseAlune 10 місяців тому +413

    Love the guide! There are some really great benefits with this rotation, but we also lose some advantages. However, the detail that "Don't miss that this rotation falls off in the midgame" made me want to try this again. I really appreciate the video and can't wait to give this a try!

    • @mystogan6556
      @mystogan6556 10 місяців тому +4

      Can't wait for you to try this rotation. See you later

    • @cloudnyle2385
      @cloudnyle2385 10 місяців тому +8

      Cant wait for the
      Yeah so fair
      With that combo

  • @CapoDituttiCapi36
    @CapoDituttiCapi36 10 місяців тому +97

    Aphelios mains are basicly people who like hurting them selfs without dieing or consequences

  • @VaporaDark
    @VaporaDark 10 місяців тому +159

    Great guide! I played a lot of green-blue the past few months for testing purposes, inspired by some of your videos even. I also came to the conclusion that this rotation is likely just better in the early game but falls off later on, so ideally Aphelios players should be comfortable on both rotations.
    One minor correction, you say at a certain distance you would need impossible attack speed to get the extra auto. I believe there is actually no attack speed that would get you the reset at too close distances. This is because blue Q locks you out of autoing for a specific time period; the extra auto relies on the lockout ending in time for you to issue an auto command, and on having enough attack speed for that command to go through before the green mark applies. Once you get to that maximum (minimum?) distance though, the Calibrum mark applies before the AA lockout ends, meaning attack speed stops helping and it just can’t be done.
    A similar thing happens with the Calibrum Q auto reset. Attack speed helps you pull that off at closer and closer distances, but it can never be done from melee range because at a certain point the lockout from casting the ability causes it to land before it even allows you to input a command, meaning no amount of attack speed can help at that point.
    It’s basically the same mechanic for both since they both rely on squeezing in an auto right before a Calibrum mark applies to auto reset with, but the higher lockout from blue Q means it’s a lot more distance-restricted, whereas the Calibrum Q reset works up to a lot closer, but both need a minimum amount of attack speed to even have your AA input go off before the Calibrum mark lands, and both need more AS to get it to work from closer distances up until the specific distance that each entirely stops working at.

    • @daynean
      @daynean  10 місяців тому +41

      Awesome! :)
      And yes, your explanation pretty much nails it. Your description using animation lockouts conveys the point better than what I could come up with, definitely spot on. :)

  • @Heylon1313
    @Heylon1313 10 місяців тому +41

    As you explained, I kept telling myself "well yeah but you miss out on Blue-Red" but then you said to just switch to the original rotation mid to lategame, and I felt dumb because honestly that should be obvious, I think many aphelios players got too used to there.l being one "best" rotation that we miss out on that strength of the champ. Plus, it's super convenient to return to the original rotation, so I'm sold and will try it out!

    • @gustavobernardi5541
      @gustavobernardi5541 10 місяців тому

      Exactly!!! Just one quick question, do u know how do I make this transition of weapon rotations?

    • @raphaelnej8387
      @raphaelnej8387 10 місяців тому +1

      I believe it’s explained in the video

    • @KryptoKn8
      @KryptoKn8 10 місяців тому

      ​@gustavobernardi5541 when you get green blue, use green first. Then on blue purple, use purple first. Then just continue as before (always the oldest weapon first)

  • @Lee_lol
    @Lee_lol 10 місяців тому +24

    Love this video! The power of Aphelios is that you have the ability to choose what guns you’ll need during a team fight. Pointing out the fact that you can swap gun rotations to fit early and late game power spikes at any point is just poetry in motion

  • @lolBlazeD
    @lolBlazeD 6 місяців тому +12

    tfw I came here to see an Aphelios guide and find myself getting REKT at 2:29 LMAO

  • @Vyra_
    @Vyra_ 10 місяців тому +24

    Man i dont even play Aphelios but the quality of these videos keep me going

  • @AuroraLight_x
    @AuroraLight_x 10 місяців тому +17

    the amount of effort put into this video is just astounding!
    love it and keep up the amazing work!
    EPIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIC!

  • @kadalix
    @kadalix 10 місяців тому +6

    very interesting and i love how easily this rotations transitions into the standard one!
    as an intermediate aphel player now, i wonder if there's any more rotations that are unique and can transition back into the standard one so you don't lose value in the late game

  • @atsukki
    @atsukki 8 місяців тому +2

    came here with a lot of scepticism, but you explained everything so well im gonna try using it from now on

  • @J4CM4N99
    @J4CM4N99 8 місяців тому +1

    I always saw the pros doing this gun rotation in pro play and couldnt place my finger on why they did it. This explains everything, insanely good video. Liked and shared

  • @oskartu12
    @oskartu12 10 місяців тому +8

    Wow never though about actually swapping in the middle of the game. Kinda obvious now that i think about it lmao. Great guide!

  • @unprofesionalrussian
    @unprofesionalrussian 10 місяців тому +2

    Something to add to the guide, you can ult when you are swapping to a new weapon during the animation. Meaning with red purple, there is the added benefit of purple q’ing someone with less than 10 ammo, then triggering the white gun weapon swap, and ukting during the weapon swap to get a (mostly) guaranteed white ult hit

  • @ioannishussein8038
    @ioannishussein8038 10 місяців тому +3

    This is a great guide, getting me back to playing Aphelios when I’m truly ready.

  • @tastycles1062
    @tastycles1062 10 місяців тому +1

    Finally! A proper aphelios guide for intermediate aphe players with some good high-end tips! Thanks man!

  • @bleeqq5195
    @bleeqq5195 8 місяців тому +1

    After I started watching your videos a while back I actually switched to this rotation and I saw a big improvement with my aphelios

  • @fabiopinotti5705
    @fabiopinotti5705 10 місяців тому +3

    Incredible video, very informative and covers every doubt someone could have about what you are explaining, great job!

  • @heartuu_
    @heartuu_ 10 місяців тому +49

    God, now you can understand why Aphelios is not a simple champion with simple QWER
    Ye, I love this champion

    • @katama_1
      @katama_1 10 місяців тому

      I don't think anyone thought he was.

    • @heartuu_
      @heartuu_ 10 місяців тому +1

      @@katama_1 Nah, there are people who keep saying that this champ isn't that complicated, when they've only read what each weapon does yk

    • @katama_1
      @katama_1 10 місяців тому +2

      @@heartuu_ I mean the QWER not that he is simple. If anyone thinks he's QWER champ they haven't play Aph bc he doesn't even have a w... But I think aph was easier with galeforce now he's insanely harder without it. I only have 100k points on him so take my opinion with a pinch of salt. By far my favorite adc with ezreal and vayne being next up

    • @heartuu_
      @heartuu_ 10 місяців тому

      @@katama_1 Kk now I understand what you're saying. I personally don't play Lol so I shouldn't even be talking but shh. Moonboy supremacy.

    • @katama_1
      @katama_1 10 місяців тому +1

      @@heartuu_ LOL based i Dont blame you tho. I stan aph even tho i dont play him alot XD so its okay

  • @NS-qx5mt
    @NS-qx5mt 10 місяців тому +1

    Extremely approachable guide. I'm a top laner who is awful at ranged champions in general. I knew of strategies like this with aph but i could never use them myself. As someone who doesn't have the hands for adc this was very impressive stuff to learn and I'll remember it next time I'm walking down an adc with sunfire. ❤

  • @lilo7452
    @lilo7452 10 місяців тому +3

    the prophecy has been fufilled… the guide has been posted.

  • @maayanalon5222
    @maayanalon5222 10 місяців тому +2

    I have waited so long for this, thanks Dan!!!

  • @zandariko1942
    @zandariko1942 10 місяців тому

    Ty for giving a lot of arguments, I love messing up the standard rotation to get infernum/calibrum from time to time, but I was never fully convinced by your reels.

  • @dwamp
    @dwamp 10 місяців тому +6

    I knew for a while that Blue-Green was better, but whenever I tried it in game, I found the damage was similar to green-purple so to have the root just seemed like the better option. Now that you've mentioned that you can squeeze in an extra auto and that it's only meant to be used in the early game, I feel inclined to try it again.
    Also, red-purple abilities are actually really good together, but in my opinion the ults are bad, as red ult is only used when on low health and purple is almost never used because it sucks if you don't have gravitum ability (in my opinion). Kinda wish purple ult grounded or something idk.

    • @yoongifem
      @yoongifem 2 місяці тому

      es verdad, creo que las veces que tire R con gravitum fue por error o porque necesitaba aplicar cc desde muy lejos para mi team

  • @chhooppaaa
    @chhooppaaa 9 місяців тому +1

    Guide is so much explained that I immediately forgor after watching it

  • @DawnwakerNemysis
    @DawnwakerNemysis 5 місяців тому

    Thanks so much, i recently got into aphelios and right after watching this my performance improved drastically!
    Thank you and goodnight ❤

  • @Azox-AR
    @Azox-AR 10 місяців тому

    MAN as aphelios main with 1 MIL i still learned stuff in this video i appreciate the guide

  • @titfanyx
    @titfanyx 10 місяців тому +3

    i needed this fr

  • @luxin6235
    @luxin6235 10 місяців тому +2

    great vid mate !

  • @megaownage1000
    @megaownage1000 19 днів тому

    Okay , have honestly just instinctively swapped my ammo's up . I agree that Crescendum/Gravitum is one of the "weaker" combo's for front to back fights ig . But for the rest ALL of the other combo's DO have a use . It's indeed the instantaneousness of hiss ammo swaps that catch people by surprise

  • @misterbeamlongplays
    @misterbeamlongplays 10 місяців тому

    I never played an probably will ever play aphelios but i really like this kind of passion that players put into the game it is beautiful

  • @Danomis
    @Danomis 10 місяців тому

    I love these kind of indepth videos. Great work!

  • @imyourantinomy7195
    @imyourantinomy7195 10 місяців тому

    thank u so much for this guide, i'm a beginner who wants to play aphelios and i had to stop like 5 times through the video and replay because brain doesn't function

  • @v1va53
    @v1va53 10 місяців тому +1

    amazing guide. Thank you!

  • @vivipoery
    @vivipoery 10 місяців тому +1

    Just the guide I needed ty :DD

  • @markradvanszki5659
    @markradvanszki5659 6 місяців тому

    I'm just like 15 games into my Aphelios career but this video made me understand why he is so broken in good hands. I'm just figuring out the combos rn

  • @cosmicbard6998
    @cosmicbard6998 9 місяців тому

    I've mostly just been playing Aphelios in Arena (please bring it back and make it permanent, Riot), but I was curious if maybe the video had something that could help me out there. And honestly, this sounds amazing, and I'm surprised that I never thought of doing a rotation like this before.
    Like, Severum-Gravitum in a mode where everyone and their mother is spamming tanks and fighters? That actually has the potential to be one of the strongest combos in the game, if I get lucky, and have it prepped against something like a Sett-Garen.
    Calibrum-Infernum probably doesn't have as much of a potential, cus a lot of champions can often get stupidly tanky, and you do have the plants that can heal back your burst. But there's still a decent chunk of people that are playing squishier champs, and it's not like Cali-Grav or Inf-Sev would perform that much better overall, anyway.
    So I'll definitely be attempting this, when the mode next rolls around.
    Wish me luck! :)

  • @jasonduncan660
    @jasonduncan660 10 місяців тому

    I dont even play this champ but this is a hell of a vid guide i subscribe so fast lol

  • @anotheruniqueusername
    @anotheruniqueusername 10 місяців тому

    i remember picking up aphelios upon release but quickly found myself in over my head, it's quite funny he's more complex than hwei is, despite only having "two" abilities.

  • @JimJPoggers
    @JimJPoggers 10 місяців тому +1

    I use both combos based on game, I always felt purple green rotation was popular because adc's weren't primary carries in season 10, if we look at worlds stats for that year for adcs we have: lucian(tripple flex mid, top, adc) 94 games, ashe 70 games, senna 64 games, ezreal 58 games, jhin 56 games. adc's in these games were tools for more than damage so green purple made sense as a combo. I do believe green blue was super popular in korea though because guma used to run it most games since they are interchangeable, you would also see him empty white before red on some baron takes so he could seige with blue white turrets on baron waves and reset to level 1 ish gun roation which i always thought was super underutilised.

  • @thanost9383
    @thanost9383 10 місяців тому

    Incredible guide, very well explained

  • @francobaldoni5800
    @francobaldoni5800 10 місяців тому +1

    3:30 WHAT IS MY MAN COOKING

  • @celloj3703
    @celloj3703 20 днів тому

    I like how you're making my head hurt with all of this information

  • @mentoleh
    @mentoleh 15 днів тому

    Hello, I agree with theses points, BUT, if you want to get the best combo for aphelios you dont want to do that on the first rotation. (blue white setup with 10 or less blue ammo, infernum Q in a wave, severum Q in, cresendum ult, severum Q -> 20 chakram, unlosable fight)

  • @mustafamuhamedviii4831
    @mustafamuhamedviii4831 10 місяців тому +3

    Wow man! This is such a game changer. Green pink does seem quite week in the early mid game. The fact that you can use this new green blue to have a lot of damage early is so cool. I cant wait to try this out

    • @rotate6638
      @rotate6638 10 місяців тому +2

      pink?

    • @AttackPoke
      @AttackPoke 10 місяців тому

      @@rotate6638 I think they mean severum

  • @damsgaard799
    @damsgaard799 9 місяців тому

    I think it is a situational gun order, because you lose your blue white all in early, which is a common source of early leads.

  • @joshuajohnson6534
    @joshuajohnson6534 10 місяців тому

    not playing this champ and watching this combo makes me feel like i just attended a lecture at MIT

  • @yowaneyowane8765
    @yowaneyowane8765 8 місяців тому

    I naturally get this rotation when I forget the standard rotation midgame lmao

  • @owa1985
    @owa1985 10 місяців тому

    And then here I am just randomly dropping guns because I suck and the w didn't buffer correctly thus confusing the enemy team. A shoutout to your usage of crescendum gravitum to slow the bad guys. Although I must say that I usually end up with those two because I tend to spend my gun ammo attempting to poke and since gravitum's q is the only one you can't cast randomly, I usually end up with a nearly full gravitum when crescendum rolls around.
    Sometimes the other guys think I'm playing some weird 5d chess but in reality I'm just a scrub. Eheh 8D

  • @nadra0755
    @nadra0755 10 місяців тому

    Great video, I do think the rotation is more common than u made it seem though. Been seeing it a lot past year in proplay/other high elo players

  • @gustavobernardi5541
    @gustavobernardi5541 10 місяців тому

    Love the video quality mate! Can I just ask one thing..
    How do u go from blue-green rotation to red-blue rotation like u said on the video? On late game

  • @Sven-jh2zg
    @Sven-jh2zg 9 місяців тому

    Cool thought. Will definitely try that!

  • @kivmorth
    @kivmorth 10 місяців тому

    i started using red purple (but not blue purple yet, that happened after some pro player used it) because i ve been tired dying to bruisers and divers feeling that i dont have enough mobility, i even tried fleet + ghost + celerity + stormrazor. but one day i decided to change this stale rotation. red + white is cheese that can deal an insane amounts of damage just because of how autoing with crescendum works but you can't really squeeze it even in lane sometimes, not mentioning team fights. main dmg for phel after few items is calibrum sentry so you just need to keep that. and probably even that can't work sometimes (outrange). but why picking aphelios against assassins, artillery mages and high range adcs.

  • @sauskar3308
    @sauskar3308 5 місяців тому

    i came up with basically the same thing in my first 5 games of aphel! i saw the common order and messed it up but then realized that i preferred this. I have a very similar order but basically reversed, so: green, white, red, purple, blue. the combinations end up being the same but a different order. i don’t know how this affects its strength though.

  • @alextreme444
    @alextreme444 10 місяців тому

    Riot: Machine gun Caitlyn is too strong we need to nerf it!
    Aphelios:

  • @GodWearsGucci134
    @GodWearsGucci134 10 місяців тому

    wake up babe, daynean uploaded

  • @RicardoThaxter
    @RicardoThaxter 10 місяців тому

    Really good vid 👌

  • @UltimateAphelios
    @UltimateAphelios 10 місяців тому +1

    this video is insane bro, Im grandmaster in brazil and I agree with EVERYTHING u said. thats insane

  • @yPureTixyZ7
    @yPureTixyZ7 10 місяців тому

    Amazing video. What video editing apps are u using?

  • @joriandekievit9478
    @joriandekievit9478 10 місяців тому

    You see, i like this, cause i have been seeing pro players use this order for about a year now, always got kind of confused, untill i tried it. Though i am noticing that the pro’s actually reverse your stuff. They start early with the standard rotation and go to this adjusted one later

  • @kaielGL
    @kaielGL Місяць тому

    Thanks a lot for the guide and the video! I want to try Aphelios now but i always had one question... How do you deal with X factors where you can't just rotate properly because the situation doesn't allow you to? for example lets say you are in the blue-purple rotation, and people are ganking you, so you HAVE to root them, with purple, using 10 ammo and by doing so wasting 10 ammo, so you waste purple before blue, basically fucking up all your rotation. How do you deal with those situations? That's what i always felt was the hardest/weakest part of Aphelios. Thanks in advance!

  • @kaiquepassos8281
    @kaiquepassos8281 10 місяців тому

    Oh my fucking god he actually did it

  • @molten5378
    @molten5378 10 місяців тому +3

    When the guide about a VARTIATION of the passive is over 10 minutes long lol

  • @davemassa7249
    @davemassa7249 10 місяців тому

    dude just explained to myself why and how i should be playing with this strats for so long but so wrong lmao

  • @sceadumor
    @sceadumor 6 місяців тому

    I just picked up Aphelios so im not gonna bother with this until i am.very comfortable with his rotation and don't need to think about it almost at all until I pock this up but this looks absolutely sweet especially being able to easily swap bacl to standard rotation

  • @Jobiro05
    @Jobiro05 10 місяців тому

    Ngl, I was kinda skeptical about this combo because I didn't see a way how this would out DPS the old combo in the late game, but I love that you thought about that. Thank you; I now see it.
    I have one question, though: Is it not just better to go for the combo in the second cycle? If you do, you can use the white-blue-into-red power spike, and you don't have to play with white-purple. If you follow the old first cycle and, in the second cycle, instead of going purple first, you go blue, you end up with the cycle talked about in this video.
    The two reasons I can come up with that blue-green is at its strongest in that second cycle and/or that power spike is too predictable in high elo. I believe that this combo is at its strongest when you get Kraken. Am I wrong here? Is there another reason I'm not thinking about?
    Please do let me know because I have been thinking about this since the first time I saw someone use this cycle. Thank you for the great video eitherway.

  • @hearteyedgirl
    @hearteyedgirl 9 місяців тому

    what is your opinion on red>white>blue>green>purple?
    i use it when early/mid game snowballing

  • @worstsniper-ws8es
    @worstsniper-ws8es 10 місяців тому

    i mainly go red blue "infernum" white blue " calibrum" then purple usually for late game and long distance with sustain fight

  • @patrikbui5872
    @patrikbui5872 10 місяців тому

    Gonna use this thanks

  • @vidazs5389
    @vidazs5389 5 місяців тому +1

    Is the thing about blue and green gun combo still relevant? Since I don’t build AS anymore instead I build crit items like collector IE and late game I build like yun tal

    • @daynean
      @daynean  5 місяців тому

      yea still works, just needs berserkers or a few pts in W to be applicable as much as possible

  • @HeyItsGriffin
    @HeyItsGriffin 7 місяців тому

    I love this rotation but am I missing something on how to manage the ammo? I can usually get the first rotation fine and then it just falls apart.

  • @dkfool8659
    @dkfool8659 10 місяців тому

    Hum...ok hard but i see but do u think CDR in the build can be helpfull for make rotation faster because it is hard to be relevent in fight with purple-white and red-white (red white is good but in range match up hard to setup for me lol) ? Sry for my trash english.

  • @tronic774
    @tronic774 4 місяці тому

    What do I do after i aquire the combo? Do i keep green in my offhand forever? and what happens if i switch to green in a teamfight and eventually run out of ammo the rotation is messed up?

  • @ZiuunX
    @ZiuunX 7 місяців тому

    i dont get, can someone explain what to get rid off after u enable green blue? its red --> green --> blue --> purple --> red --> white and then u have blue green. But what after it?

  • @nussiiiii
    @nussiiiii 10 місяців тому

    Imo green - purple - blue - white - red is the best rotation, but I'm too lazy to explain all the combinations😅

  • @shirotlgd
    @shirotlgd 10 місяців тому

    how do you chose runes for aphelios, does using that queue change anything on that regard?

  • @Ale_zinha_vieira
    @Ale_zinha_vieira 10 місяців тому

    There's any changes on the prefered runes options there? I mean, it's a bit personal, but when I'm running Aphelios I know I should change my runes every match, because everymatch would have a better weapon setup that work better, but I simply cant understand what to use (I'd also love a explain about why run each rune, recently I've seen some conquer aphelios but I alwais use boots)

  • @cazimim3375
    @cazimim3375 10 місяців тому

    Me like: Stay on green+ white as much as possible while knowing other interactions and prefer blue green too lul ... simplified :D

  • @jonaskording2353
    @jonaskording2353 2 місяці тому

    Is this applicable for the i.e. collector rush meta? Because you said, you need attack speed

  • @maayanalon5222
    @maayanalon5222 10 місяців тому

    only one thing I wanna know, and is when do I want to change the rotation? at what stage?

  • @EduardoTyrannyth
    @EduardoTyrannyth 10 місяців тому +1

    Me that never played this champion: Damn! Interesting, but i don't understand nothing hahahah

  • @MRWEXREAL
    @MRWEXREAL 2 місяці тому

    guys if anyone is still watching this vid caan you help me. what do i do when i have the white and blue which one do i get rid of then?

  • @jokerfever2590
    @jokerfever2590 10 місяців тому

    Finally someone talks about this

  • @tranducquang5912
    @tranducquang5912 10 місяців тому +2

    Imo you forgot to mention the power of Green blue + PTA. It can pretty much 100 to 0 any adc in the game in seconds and one of if not the easiest solo kill you can get if they disrespect your dmg

    • @daynean
      @daynean  10 місяців тому

      Didnt mention it, but made a note about it when I talked about the KrakenSlayer interaction because it functions the same way basically

    • @tranducquang5912
      @tranducquang5912 10 місяців тому

      yeah. Also i think you can make a small mention about keystones in general imo. Aphelios is one of the few champions with a few very viable keystone choices @@daynean

  • @lion7787
    @lion7787 10 місяців тому

    Can you do your build and runes guide?

  • @plasmi8034
    @plasmi8034 6 місяців тому

    cell brain gone help alot things in person speaking camera

  • @Sinay1685
    @Sinay1685 10 місяців тому

    When did you choose flit over pta?

  • @filmrecorder5717
    @filmrecorder5717 8 місяців тому

    day do you do aphelios coaching?

  • @Uthael_Kileanea
    @Uthael_Kileanea 9 місяців тому

    I like your funny words, magic man

  • @sergiocuevas92
    @sergiocuevas92 9 місяців тому

    Ive been using this rotation off and on for 3 yrs. Ive gotten 10/13 pentas with this rotation.

  • @jaanchaudhry1682
    @jaanchaudhry1682 10 місяців тому

    Is there a trick to hitting his r I swear I always am just barely missing it

  • @stressful6758
    @stressful6758 10 місяців тому

    great video i need to do better ammo managment ngl :(

  • @Cellus5000
    @Cellus5000 10 місяців тому

    Guide: this rotation everyone uses is terrible
    Me: you can change the rotation?

  • @Squalla12
    @Squalla12 7 місяців тому

    build update for the new patch bro?

  • @Lia-eu7nc
    @Lia-eu7nc 10 місяців тому

    i dont play aphelios that much. But i do like this rotation, because the colors sequence is more visually pleasing and hence easier to remember :) So i ll use this one. :)

  • @henriquetomio
    @henriquetomio 10 місяців тому

    Always wondered why some koreans went this rotation, thanks

  • @kryptonist8351
    @kryptonist8351 5 місяців тому

    this just breaks my mind.

  • @SnowyFreight
    @SnowyFreight 10 місяців тому

    I am not an aphelios player. I am not even an adc main! But now my head hurt

  • @psychopathicporo
    @psychopathicporo 10 місяців тому

    Dude I love Aphelios

  • @vandall4583
    @vandall4583 10 місяців тому

    I love you dayneannn