LOOK work with your support. I main support and end up using up all mana by lvl 3 saving my ADC. Number one mistake is ADC close to dying then hiding behind Support & refusing to recal, then when your one hit to give enemy a kill ADC are afraid of losing minions. equalling ADC needs to stop pushing before lvl 5 by 1st over extending then hiding behind sup, enemie Jg will notice and 8 x out of 10 will notice and you will be ganked equalling you and sup dying. LASTLY:: Sup gets a small % thats the point of sup first choice. you get the rest of the gold majority % go to ADC from sup minion take downs.
The most important part about all of this is to keep in mind that these things will not work sometimes. Yes, sometimes everything goes wrong, yes sometimes all the strats actually work against you. however, the important part is that on average it will work more often than not. sometimes when you side your whole teams dies, they get baron and just end after and there is no gold in the world to compensate that in one push. but thats not most of the time.
just tryed to play like in the guide, lane won, but jgl calls weird outnumbered drake fights when resets would be better etc, tryed to split on empty lanes after 14 min, enemy jace and shaco cought me a few times off guard but still had most gold in team and second most damage despite the loss if u can consistently pull that off for sure it works to climb in solo queue
@@schmoopsicle2415 yeah the whole "only fix these 3 mistakes to instantly climb to challenger" or "just pick that champ to win for free" is pretty stupid
because league is just more than what this guide is. It changes game to game especially with different champions runes and matchups. This is a cookie cutter guide that will probably work until high emerald low dia because its about what I do just without the macro at emerald 1
I used to be an adc main for years, I was stuck in d1-d2 for ages and peaked in Master 70 LP. I switched to jungle later and have been consistently high master/grandmaster ever since. Like even as a "beginner" jungler I felt like I had so much more carry potential compared to adc which I had played for years. I don't recommend ADC to anyone if you want to climb solo q.
As a toplaner, Im here to add a little more input about why bot looses and what not to do. 1)The game is not finished. Even if you die as a first blood, the game is not over, dont start arguing about jungle ganking you or tresh not hooking etc. Arguing and toxicity only benefits enemy 2)Dont pick odd champs, especially if you are in low elo. Fundementals are important, just play something that is conventional so team can olay around you (I am talking to you 1/14/3 Olaf adc) 3)If we tell you to not die or play safe, its not for toxicity but we believe your damage will be relevant to the game. The whole team needs your damage so we want you to poke em from sidelines, not engage first in teamfight and die. If we tell you to play safe, just farm. As you can see from these 3 points, the reason why I lost my games isnt skill issue but mentality issue. I luv you adc's, work together not against, thanks
Ur 2nd point is not true. I climbed from bronze to Diamond 2 seasons ago playing exclusively jarvan Leona bot with my premade. 10 times easier to carry low Elo with that lane than conventional adc bot lane.
@@mkayy736 Thats a good point but generally works in "unconventional pics to cheese", way more effective as top and mid. For example in low elos not many people know how to play against ranged top, so even if you pick ashe top you can win. Issue with this is, picking a champ like this has major cons for a role. It increases the dmg potential of the team expodentially compared to a bruiser (especially with the new adc item changes) but also your team migh struggle with teamfights due to lack of engage or the enemy acctually understands how to play against you and they stomp you. This aceraio goes for bot like this kinda similar but with a catch. Picking a melee or bruiser like champ in bot might sound good but its all strategy and team comp reliant, the moment that draven or caitlin got their ie, its not game over but you just crippled yourself in a way. You need a dmg house in the team, eighter has build to kill tanks or just shred em from distance, or its a guerilla warefare where you try to jump on enemy adc in jungle as quickly as you can
@@afterlyte The difference between solo and duo is night and day, yes. Just the communication can win games. For example if nocturne ults you can gamble on who to ult as shen, but if your mate tells you eighter its him or bot, you can save a whole potential gank
This only works if you are very low elo and you are smurfing. To be able to side lane as an adc requires map/enemy position awareness that a lot of lower elo players don't have so you don't get collapsed on. It causes the adc to be alone and very susceptible to get jumped on by enemy assassins or lane vs champions they can't step up to for cs, not be the first ones to join skirmishes mid / other side objective considering adc doesn't have tp, and loses ally mid xp by being with support.
Sometimes they force a 5v4 fight while you split bot,and losing mid tower early is hell for adc ,even if you take a tower bot lane in return. Map control>gold.
This isn't a high elo guide they said that. In high elo, you do a 13 min swap with mid... In low elo, this isn't a great move. And I agree, in all low elos (plat and below) you can't play the games thinking you have a team to rely on, it doesn't work. There will be games where the enemy plays really well and they see you trying to split as an ADC and just fuck you up then your team, but in general you are pulling resources from other lanes to come kill you and this is a good thing. Even if you die and get nothing but pushed your wave up to their T2 tower, you would have dragged multiple enemies there, then they all clear the wave and then they start pining where to go next / go back meaning your death gave them no advantage. In low elo, usually they will all want that "free kill" from you because all they think about is KDA. And yes, at some point you need a brain, some games you can tell when it isn't working and so you need to adapt, but generally speaking this will be the best option.
this is literally a GUIDE. yeah, there will be idiotic ADCs that try to split-push (they'll do it even before watching this video) but the whole point of guides is teaching them things like if you push tab and see 4-5 enemy question marks, maybe dont split push.
@@MFB245 yeah u say that but some ppl out here have ppl that go 0 8 almost every other game if not every game and giga feed enemy mid top jng doesnt fing matter and you can play the best u can it doesnt matter at all, and i this happend one or two games out of ten it wouldnt be such a issue, but it happens game after game after game........
@@Grimsheed litterly not he uses his 30 dashes while u have 0 has to flash bc hes dogshit and still out dmges you with only 2 spells and ignite and aas, its litterly hell
@@edgyhegi9547 You're kind of playing a game of rock paper scissors. But if someone can provide you peel or durability when you play adc, you are literally unstoppable and you provide all damage your team needs to win any fight.
@Grimsheed yeah rock paper scissors except you're playdough which loses to everything 😂 the only way to win is for your RANDOMS to help you. Good luck with that.
Don't buy the advice they sell. I bought the annual pass by mistake and wanted to make the return to start with the monthly package. However, they told me that they would return my payment, which never arrived, and they took away my access.
he was talking about laning phase soraka healing ain't that strong if u dodge her q and trade with adc + u will be having ignite so ignite the adc and it's easy
@@kimjiwonisagod2331 I know, I'm just saying every situation is different. Some supports (Senna/Pyke/Tahm/Sion/Ashe) can carry games on their own. Identify who the threat is, attack accordingly. I played against a soraka who basically gave the ADC draven a second health bar, and then ran away on 5 HP while he double-killed us.
It's a guide, not a protocol. The video is teaching things that you can implement on your games but you have to evaluate what's the best thing to do in the particular match your playing
@@davidromerohernandez1790 well doesnt matter when u get lvl 3, 5 , 6 etc dived by whole enemy team while topside has more ppl but dont do nothing with it, like some advice from this is like but many thing rely on your team being able to play without you and you being able to 1v1 other champs, and as a adc i cant 1v1 anyone who is at least a bit feed or even just decent, a zed even 1 item behind kills you, almost all assassins do, almost all mid laners kill u if u are even or if u are ahead, and besides most adc have such little self peel that they cant escape anybody on side lane if they push, these fking thing rely more on luck then skill, bc u rely on ur team being able to 4v4 against enemy adc and you not dieing to some zed that isnt even feed and would not have made a diffrence in the team fight.
@justcallmewhat Focus on what he is saying and not what you're sewing. The stuff he talks about has been very helpful for me. The CS count is something you should be building every game anyway. That's a mandatory skill. Kills are more optional, the less value you place on kills the better you will be. When I stopped being greedy, I started winning way more.
My biggest tip for ADC players: Walk away from enemies. That it literally your greatest advantage. If someone is running at you, walk away. Don't stop to attack them. Don't try to outplay them. Just give up that space, and walk back to your teammates. Start attacking them when they're in range of your teammates. Your job is not to 100-0 every enemy you come across, it's to tax a chunk of health from any enemy who wants to do anything near your teammates. You can't win fair fights because your role is to make every fight unfair, so don't fight fair. Walk away.
as an adc (and a player in general) who dies A LOT ever since i started playing back in s2, i will take this as my mantra from now on thank you for this, i think this will greatly reduce my deaths and in general be a much more effective player. i usually go for the one shots 1v1s and 1v5s for no reason even if i may be really strong and mechanically good monkey brain do monkey business
That is why you seem like a bad adc. Scared adcs are the worst. Good adcs understand death better than anyone else, so they know what can kill them and how. This type of knowledge allows good adcs to see when they can fight and when they can not. Bad advice, be better.
if you play like this you will never be the deciding factor in the outcome of your games. You have to play at the edge of failure in order to win. You are ahead? good. Make the winning play. You are behind? Draw attention, farm up, get gold and then make the play. to win the game , in any game, is to make game winning plays that are, on average, successful 51% of the times. That's all you gotta do. But if you walk away then you remove yourself from the game that is ladder climbing. You are literally giving control to 4 random people. That's a bad idea.
Once again a fantastic guide with crazy good tips for any elo. Even as a guy not playing adc at all i learned a lot about supporting the adc in his mission and using his map priority in my favor as a midlaner. Very cool
Even smurfs lose 20-30% of their games. There will always be games where your teammates are more talented at starting fires than you are at putting them out.
@@KosstAmojan 20-30% is normal, But my games are 50% 50% win lose and most of times I get S grade after losing. I try so hard but result is again 50% 50%.
@@BehPoker Sure. The point here is that why would you do it when there is a high likelihood that you’re too immobile to get away from that pressure and survive as compared to someone where the cost is higher. It’s easier to lock down a squishy adc in this situation but if a Mundo is in this situation splitting why would the Noc and TF go on them?
@@marcusthomas4727 I think his point was that you're basically the weakest and most useless person on your team at this stage so you pulling a stronger person to match sets your team up to have a better 4v4. You're also likely the lowest level and have the lowest death timer and have good wave clear. I think especially in plat and lower, there is statistically a good shot that you won't have 2 people wanting to push side lanes so it's just something you can consistently do.
@@marcusthomas4727 and then he also says if you're equal levels/gold, you should win against all those champs. And if you're majorly down to something like a fed noc or kass, that game is probably doomed anyways so you might as well max your XP/gold to scale up to winnable state and just hope enemy team isn't coordinated enough to end early (and since it's low elo, that seems fairly likely)
I often do this... as a support. Most adc are completely clueless about how the game works, so I litteraly end up carrying with good macro and catches only. I figured it out when the old Tham Kench was released. Played it top as an AD bruiser/Tower demolisher with ZZ'rot while his ult allowed me to play on two lanes simultaneously. It took me three weeks to climb from bronze to gold, and I learned a lot about lane management and the macro game in general. Most of your advises are golden 👌
99% of the ADCs I have to support as main never rush for level 2. It tends to be me pushing for it as support and forcing us to be level 2. Sometimes it works, and other times my ADC gets so mad I was touching the wave at all that they int or ragequit right there. Also, the level 3 spike is real if there is a character that relies upon it. The main character that really needs level 3 is Brand. Level 2 for Brand isn't a big deal, but level 3 is HUGE as either the ADC or support role. One thing you didn't mention in this video is proper use of wards and knowing jungle gank timers.
if they dont touch wave than just dont touch it either. you WILL get lvl 2 and 3 if you just wait and back off. who cares if your ADC ints? mute them and stave off the bleeding until you can roam and enable another lane, or better yet, carry yourself with a champion that ideally isnt an enchanter or tank support. taking advantage of lvl 2 is a cognizant effort between both laners on bot and it always starts with ADC, if they dont follow the program it's fine, just play passively along side them and just ward tri-bush to look for jungle gank under tower
Your "push into taking towers" segment is the single quickest way to lose a game in low elo. 1. Your team WILL flame you and NEVER even attempt to help you again. 2. All you're doing is giving the enemy team a massive wave to farm. 3. The enemy team just got map priority by killing all your teammates. 4. You'll likely cause your team to FF even if you could win. 5. You might cause a teammate to afk. 6. If you get hit by a global ult and collapsed on, you're dead. 7. Anything else I can't think of. This guide is not made with Iron-Gold in mind. Unless you've been playing and practicing against Plat+ players allowing you to gain that level of skill, you'll never actually be able to climb above Gold. I'd argue alot of Bronze level players are actually playing at a Gold level, but can't climb due to all the Smurfs, Inters, Trolls, and genuinely bad players holding them back.
you're talking about a lot of factors that are just not important to think about. who cares if "the right play" pisses off your teammates? they are also in Iron-Gold FOR A REASON. mute them, accept that this game has a lot of man-children with soft egos, and move on to the next match as you learn how to carry. the guide of course doesn't incorporate a bunch of "what ifs" because it literally can't. there's countless factors you have to just get used to identifying to know when to implement the strategies in the video. Even Vapora Dark, an ADC main content creator, was skeptical seeing this video but actually made some macro improvements to his gameplay when he started listening to some of the advice mentioned.
I just watched this it ranked me up to diamond. I would imagine if there are players who understand the zoning and strategies, it would be difficult to climb up as this video will help you easily get into the proper laning phase.
I played LoL for a moment as ADC and I had the impression ADCs die way too fast. Even if I am fed, enemy assassin attacks me two times and I am dead lol…
usually because ADCs 1) dont look for key abilities they need to try to avoid 2) try to build whatever is recommended by their companion app of choice, which usually involves glass cannon crit build and thus have no defensive items until like last item, if the game even lasts that long 3) have the positioning skills of a melee minion that only knows how to go forward and die. 4) don't look at the map.
@@zacharyjackson1829 Yeah, fair points. I do not know all abilities from all champs, I don’t even know all champs 😅 And yes, I built normally what is recommended, mostly kraken, lord Dominiks. What I do: check mini map where enemies are, who I do not see and based on this I push or go base.
This guide only works while you climbing till gold 4. After that, this strategy barely works in 25-30% of your games, and if you continue playing like this, you're gonna stuck and get reported really hard. In medium elos you have multiple things to considerer: - Assasins always are a threat, since they can one shot you even if they are like 0/5/2 on the score board. As long they have at least 1-2 items, they can kill you easylie. So, pushing alone the line almost always ends with your head chopped from your body. - Winning the early game phase line is not so much impactful as a whole on the late game, and also can be even a negative choice since you can give bounties to the enemies. And as a said before, you're squishy, so everyone can kill you and take it. Thats something really important because the balance of gold can turn really fast if you play with this mental conception. - The worst case scenario for an ADC is not dying 3-5 times on your lane. It is your mental down because you start messing around alone and not playing around your team. - When you are far ahead of your opponents, the worst you can do is getting stick at your lane. Is better to roam mid/jg to expand your impact by letting your mid/jg gets kills with your help. Also secure towers/dragons/objectives. -When you are far beyond of your opponents, the most important thing to do is farm and roam every time the enemy adc do it too. And pray the enemie adc be overconfident and your assasins take it in control. Good luck ADC mains, you will need it.
Not enough emphasis on how important map awareness is when you decide to use a strategy like this. You need to be aware of who can challenge you and where they could be coming from, or else you can just get collapsed on and killed for free while your team does absolutely nothing with it cause they had no opportunities on the map. Knowing where everyone is and what their options are is what lets you decide when and how to split, especially as a less powerful splitpusher on adc.
You guys expect low elo teams to understand, that the strongest enemy member is out of the fight so they have a better chance fighting? Never happens, they just see you splitting, dying and proceed to flame you instead of doing anything.
this is great sums up ADC in SOLO Q in a very good way even Cleared somethings up to me that i have been doing it by habit Great Work ^Emerald ADC Main^
but why would you not leash? it gives you tempo. just do like a auto q auto and leave. this is esp true for fast clears. if you get a small leash you will have time to do other stuff like look for a gank and stuff.
@@ProbroXLv1It gives your jungler minimal tempo, but looses your own tempo for it. If you leash and the enemy doesn't you immediately give up on level 2 advantage, thus early lane advantage, and risk getting cheesed from either tribrush or the lane brush. You also inform the enemy team where your jungler started, so they now where to expect the first gank after a clear.
@@HallidayASR they weren't gonna gank your lane anyways. if anything, if those kinds of people stay away it's actually a bonus since they wont feed at least your lane. Those people exist to AFK farm, die at objectives because they don't know how lane priority works, and never look at a map. mute them and move on
@@ProbroXLv1 leash does quite a few things 1) it tells enemy jungle and your enemy lane your jungler's pathing clear. 2) opens yourself up to bush camping cheese (yes you can avoid this with preemptive wards, but that takes away from you using a better ward later on) 3) opens yourself up to being spaced off the wave these are the biggest potential consequences of leashing. does it always happen? of course not, but even one of these things can throw your lane which is a large risk for shaving off a couple seconds of your jungler's clear, something you can't even guarantee they'll use effectively.
Watching this i find myself going "Oh that's why i won that game or that's why that worked." Really goes to show that improving is about doing things consciously and noticing the results.
You speak just a tiny bit too fast. You talking about complex problems, not obvious ones (this is the whole point of the video), so please talk a tad slower to let us understand what you're really saying.
I don't leash no matter how much the jgl pings, the supp should do that but I go to the lane so that I can quickly reach lvl 2 no matter what the jgl thinks of me
@@michaelxie837 I can assure you that the vast majority of low elo players miss so much cs even in practice tool that no amount of pushing could get them to 10cs/min. That doesn’t mean that the strat isn’t viable, but at least, I think it would make more sense to illustrate these videos by using low elo players’ replays when they’re coached live for the macro.
@@elie_ sure, but missing last hits is something that you don’t need a coach for, that’s easy to see and practice on your own, but missing cs from macro is much harder to notice on your own especially if you’re low elo, so teaching the latter is much more useful than just saying “get better at last hitting”. In any case the video wasn’t marketed as “how to get 10 cs per min” anyway. Although sure I’d agree with you watching a coaching of a low elo player implementing the strat might be more useful
@@michaelxie837 I agree with you. It's just that the CSing is one thing, but when high elo coaches say "I won't use mechanics this game" or "this is possible for you" etc... I usually don't really like it, because it doesn't make sense. I saw countless videos of high elo players say "See, I didn't use mechanics in this teamfight, only AA", but the fact is that yes, a challenger player can win tf only AAing, but they use perfect spacing, targetting, decision-making etc... This is why I feel that these vdeos are vastly misleading in what they pretend to sell, and they would benefit having a low elo player behind the keybord and mouse ^^
12:20 "i know what you're thinking, my team dies while im on sidelane" No that wasn't what i was thinking. I was thinking that op assassin and toplane fighter champions will hunt you down and kill you with no effort when you are on sidelane alone.
I feel like top/mid does the split pushing instead of adc doing it would be much better. They're easier to drag people to defend them and get away. Each time you die you're delaying your growth. You should just farm on mid lane and prepare for objective fights, considering adcs are much more fragile, and they don't even bring tp. Farming safely, not inting and getting caught alone, that's their job.
For "focus enemy adc" if the support is a fake support like brand or velkoz or something like weak like that who should I be targeting first ? The adc still ?
I knoe these videos are supposed to exist to help low elo players (not that im thaaat high, i peaked d1 im not trying to flex) but you talk about half of the stuff people need to learn. For me its more important to learn how to face certain match ups. Like what to do when you are vs a poke lane, what to do when you are vs a scaling lane, what to do when you are vs a killing threat lane. Macro for me is the next step. First you need to teach them how to match up THEN what to do after they actually manage to go through the laning phase
14:34 adc players realising that they can actually go impact the map like every other role instead of just pushing until they die the second their support recalls
12:20 okay but I still have a problem with this because a lot of times when I try to do this my team loses in a 4v4 while the enemy top laner or jungler comes to side lane and either kills me or if he can't do that still denies me taking tower. Any advice on what I can do in these situation? Should I just stay with my team then?
dude if u solo sidelaning as an adc u risking dying, and not risking only if you are far ahead. And if ur team loses a fight, enemies get waves, your jungle, towers and objectives. And now you got one tower and three waves, and loses two towers and a dragon. It is a possible strategy, but it super high risk and you rarely can pull it off.
The split push is bad idea to be honest. Most of poeple are gonna int on sidelanes and troll objectives feeding enemy assasin makeing their life even worse.
instructions unclear, my support nautilus flash+ignited wave 1 but he missed hook, then we nearly both died and I had to burn heal+flash to stay alive. Now i'm recalling back to base, and when I return I have no summs left. Nautilus is freaking out in chat and is about to aggressively feed again this time, however it will go worse because we are now gold+xp behind and have no summs either?
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Waiting for the Support video to check if i buy it.
Sad that ezreal didn't voice the adc guide😭
Instructions not clear, mid lander afk and support intentionally feed
Perma split push
thats what the video is trying to teach you
the supp isnt "inting". he's inting with good intentions aka limit testing
You forgot jungle griefing or afk and top also hard inting 😂
LOOK work with your support. I main support and end up using up all mana by lvl 3 saving my ADC.
Number one mistake is ADC close to dying then hiding behind Support & refusing to recal, then when your one hit to give enemy a kill
ADC are afraid of losing minions. equalling ADC needs to stop pushing before lvl 5 by 1st over extending then hiding behind sup, enemie Jg will notice and 8 x out of 10 will notice and you will be ganked equalling you and sup dying.
LASTLY:: Sup gets a small % thats the point of sup first choice. you get the rest of the gold majority % go to ADC from sup minion take downs.
The most important part about all of this is to keep in mind that these things will not work sometimes. Yes, sometimes everything goes wrong, yes sometimes all the strats actually work against you. however, the important part is that on average it will work more often than not. sometimes when you side your whole teams dies, they get baron and just end after and there is no gold in the world to compensate that in one push. but thats not most of the time.
just tryed to play like in the guide, lane won, but jgl calls weird outnumbered drake fights when resets would be better etc, tryed to split on empty lanes after 14 min, enemy jace and shaco cought me a few times off guard but still had most gold in team and second most damage despite the loss if u can consistently pull that off for sure it works to climb in solo queue
thats cause ppl have a one solution solves all mentality when that isnt the case. they just do the same shit everygame
@@schmoopsicle2415 yeah the whole "only fix these 3 mistakes to instantly climb to challenger" or "just pick that champ to win for free" is pretty stupid
because league is just more than what this guide is. It changes game to game especially with different champions runes and matchups. This is a cookie cutter guide that will probably work until high emerald low dia because its about what I do just without the macro at emerald 1
@@dovaiS well true, thats what most of their guides are supposed to be. for dia and below
Cant wait to see my adc split against nocturne/rengar in my bronze games
Kayn otp are rubbing their hands together too
@@valentinpts4275 Like that bug from Family Guy, "Good, good..."
That means your team can capitalize elsewhere
@@ViperVideo 💀
I wanna play lux
I used to be an adc main for years, I was stuck in d1-d2 for ages and peaked in Master 70 LP. I switched to jungle later and have been consistently high master/grandmaster ever since. Like even as a "beginner" jungler I felt like I had so much more carry potential compared to adc which I had played for years. I don't recommend ADC to anyone if you want to climb solo q.
If you side in anything gold+ as adc you get utlraflamed every time and team still proceeds to fight 4v5 and lose.
yeah the videos are iron/bronze elo
Are you comparing gold to diamond or something? Gold is just sparkly bronze
Jungle diff every game tbh
@@dethdaemon can confirm, my gold teammates were much worse than my bronze teammates lol
Yeah this is such a low elo guide
As a toplaner, Im here to add a little more input about why bot looses and what not to do.
1)The game is not finished. Even if you die as a first blood, the game is not over, dont start arguing about jungle ganking you or tresh not hooking etc. Arguing and toxicity only benefits enemy
2)Dont pick odd champs, especially if you are in low elo. Fundementals are important, just play something that is conventional so team can olay around you (I am talking to you 1/14/3 Olaf adc)
3)If we tell you to not die or play safe, its not for toxicity but we believe your damage will be relevant to the game. The whole team needs your damage so we want you to poke em from sidelines, not engage first in teamfight and die. If we tell you to play safe, just farm.
As you can see from these 3 points, the reason why I lost my games isnt skill issue but mentality issue. I luv you adc's, work together not against, thanks
Ur 2nd point is not true. I climbed from bronze to Diamond 2 seasons ago playing exclusively jarvan Leona bot with my premade. 10 times easier to carry low Elo with that lane than conventional adc bot lane.
Duo queue is a cheat code no matter what champs you play if you execute with those champs properly.
@@mkayy736then you're not actually solo queuing so that's completely irrelevant
@@mkayy736 Thats a good point but generally works in "unconventional pics to cheese", way more effective as top and mid. For example in low elos not many people know how to play against ranged top, so even if you pick ashe top you can win. Issue with this is, picking a champ like this has major cons for a role. It increases the dmg potential of the team expodentially compared to a bruiser (especially with the new adc item changes) but also your team migh struggle with teamfights due to lack of engage or the enemy acctually understands how to play against you and they stomp you. This aceraio goes for bot like this kinda similar but with a catch. Picking a melee or bruiser like champ in bot might sound good but its all strategy and team comp reliant, the moment that draven or caitlin got their ie, its not game over but you just crippled yourself in a way. You need a dmg house in the team, eighter has build to kill tanks or just shred em from distance, or its a guerilla warefare where you try to jump on enemy adc in jungle as quickly as you can
@@afterlyte The difference between solo and duo is night and day, yes. Just the communication can win games. For example if nocturne ults you can gamble on who to ult as shen, but if your mate tells you eighter its him or bot, you can save a whole potential gank
This only works if you are very low elo and you are smurfing. To be able to side lane as an adc requires map/enemy position awareness that a lot of lower elo players don't have so you don't get collapsed on. It causes the adc to be alone and very susceptible to get jumped on by enemy assassins or lane vs champions they can't step up to for cs, not be the first ones to join skirmishes mid / other side objective considering adc doesn't have tp, and loses ally mid xp by being with support.
...which is exactly what they're trying to teach? That's the entire point of the guide
Sometimes they force a 5v4 fight while you split bot,and losing mid tower early is hell for adc ,even if you take a tower bot lane in return. Map control>gold.
This isn't a high elo guide they said that. In high elo, you do a 13 min swap with mid... In low elo, this isn't a great move.
And I agree, in all low elos (plat and below) you can't play the games thinking you have a team to rely on, it doesn't work. There will be games where the enemy plays really well and they see you trying to split as an ADC and just fuck you up then your team, but in general you are pulling resources from other lanes to come kill you and this is a good thing. Even if you die and get nothing but pushed your wave up to their T2 tower, you would have dragged multiple enemies there, then they all clear the wave and then they start pining where to go next / go back meaning your death gave them no advantage. In low elo, usually they will all want that "free kill" from you because all they think about is KDA.
And yes, at some point you need a brain, some games you can tell when it isn't working and so you need to adapt, but generally speaking this will be the best option.
this is literally a GUIDE. yeah, there will be idiotic ADCs that try to split-push (they'll do it even before watching this video) but the whole point of guides is teaching them things like if you push tab and see 4-5 enemy question marks, maybe dont split push.
Adc needs a good support and support need a good team
No all anyone needs is a good "you. If you keep blaming everything on your tea you will never rank up.
@@MFB245 its a game about teamwork, I can't do everything. I'm just mad that they just thinking about themselves and say ff when the game turn bad
@@wijinkjhin4535 Yea thats valid, people turning to ff instantly after dying once in lane definitely make it exhausting to play this game
@@wijinkjhin4535But you can be consitently better than the opponent in the same position, thus insuring a high percentage winrate 😊
@@MFB245 yeah u say that but some ppl out here have ppl that go 0 8 almost every other game if not every game and giga feed enemy mid top jng doesnt fing matter and you can play the best u can it doesnt matter at all, and i this happend one or two games out of ten it wouldnt be such a issue, but it happens game after game after game........
because 0 6 0 assassin with one item can flash ignite 2 spell me without even using ultimate
skill diffed
@@Grimsheed litterly not he uses his 30 dashes while u have 0 has to flash bc hes dogshit and still out dmges you with only 2 spells and ignite and aas, its litterly hell
@@edgyhegi9547 You're kind of playing a game of rock paper scissors. But if someone can provide you peel or durability when you play adc, you are literally unstoppable and you provide all damage your team needs to win any fight.
@Grimsheed yeah rock paper scissors except you're playdough which loses to everything 😂 the only way to win is for your RANDOMS to help you. Good luck with that.
@@Grimsheed 3 months later and 45 auto attacks do 25% tank HP haha
If my teammates start telling me them inting is for "good intentions" I'm blaming you Skill Capped lol
This is a cool guide I learned a lot thank you
Don't buy the advice they sell. I bought the annual pass by mistake and wanted to make the return to start with the monthly package. However, they told me that they would return my payment, which never arrived, and they took away my access.
But is it actually good?
"Don't focus the support"
>The support is Soraka.
he was talking about laning phase soraka healing ain't that strong if u dodge her q and trade with adc + u will be having ignite so ignite the adc and it's easy
@@kimjiwonisagod2331 I know, I'm just saying every situation is different. Some supports (Senna/Pyke/Tahm/Sion/Ashe) can carry games on their own. Identify who the threat is, attack accordingly.
I played against a soraka who basically gave the ADC draven a second health bar, and then ran away on 5 HP while he double-killed us.
@@metalmagerin3who is Soon
@@metalmagerin3sounds like me, I became my servers rank 1 soraka at 150 lp.
It's a guide, not a protocol. The video is teaching things that you can implement on your games but you have to evaluate what's the best thing to do in the particular match your playing
14:50 Yeah just some average, relatable adc gameplay
9/1 at 20 mins with 200cs lmao
It's possible
Lol yup almost every clip he's very far ahead. Ofc he can solo push and pull 1-3 enemies when he's 9 and 3 9cs/m
I guess it's for people with the basic concepts already down, like veteran players that can't get out of gold elo
@@davidromerohernandez1790 well doesnt matter when u get lvl 3, 5 , 6 etc dived by whole enemy team while topside has more ppl but dont do nothing with it, like some advice from this is like but many thing rely on your team being able to play without you and you being able to 1v1 other champs, and as a adc i cant 1v1 anyone who is at least a bit feed or even just decent, a zed even 1 item behind kills you, almost all assassins do, almost all mid laners kill u if u are even or if u are ahead, and besides most adc have such little self peel that they cant escape anybody on side lane if they push, these fking thing rely more on luck then skill, bc u rely on ur team being able to 4v4 against enemy adc and you not dieing to some zed that isnt even feed and would not have made a diffrence in the team fight.
@justcallmewhat Focus on what he is saying and not what you're sewing. The stuff he talks about has been very helpful for me. The CS count is something you should be building every game anyway. That's a mandatory skill. Kills are more optional, the less value you place on kills the better you will be. When I stopped being greedy, I started winning way more.
My biggest tip for ADC players:
Walk away from enemies.
That it literally your greatest advantage. If someone is running at you, walk away. Don't stop to attack them. Don't try to outplay them. Just give up that space, and walk back to your teammates. Start attacking them when they're in range of your teammates. Your job is not to 100-0 every enemy you come across, it's to tax a chunk of health from any enemy who wants to do anything near your teammates. You can't win fair fights because your role is to make every fight unfair, so don't fight fair. Walk away.
as an adc (and a player in general) who dies A LOT ever since i started playing back in s2, i will take this as my mantra from now on
thank you for this, i think this will greatly reduce my deaths and in general be a much more effective player. i usually go for the one shots 1v1s and 1v5s for no reason even if i may be really strong and mechanically good
monkey brain do monkey business
Yeah them chasing ADCs is basically a really long CC
That is why you seem like a bad adc. Scared adcs are the worst. Good adcs understand death better than anyone else, so they know what can kill them and how. This type of knowledge allows good adcs to see when they can fight and when they can not. Bad advice, be better.
wrong
if you play like this you will never be the deciding factor in the outcome of your games. You have to play at the edge of failure in order to win. You are ahead? good. Make the winning play. You are behind? Draw attention, farm up, get gold and then make the play. to win the game , in any game, is to make game winning plays that are, on average, successful 51% of the times. That's all you gotta do. But if you walk away then you remove yourself from the game that is ladder climbing. You are literally giving control to 4 random people. That's a bad idea.
15:06 This is my first time noticing that Cait Headshots towers 😂😂😂
There was a time when she didn't, believe it or not. Can't remember when they changed it.
she is headshoting everyting including baron and more :D and I dont even remember when they made this modification of that headshot animation
@@kothyron That's a pretty neat detail!
Once again a fantastic guide with crazy good tips for any elo. Even as a guy not playing adc at all i learned a lot about supporting the adc in his mission and using his map priority in my favor as a midlaner. Very cool
Instructions unclear; Seraphine support went toplane and left me alone against LeBlanc + Brand botlane, never got ganked
I play ADC for about 7 years, still sometimes cant win while I was awesome in game
Even smurfs lose 20-30% of their games. There will always be games where your teammates are more talented at starting fires than you are at putting them out.
@@KosstAmojan That 1 Yumi OTP with 98% winrate
@@KosstAmojan 20-30% is normal, But my games are 50% 50% win lose and most of times I get S grade after losing. I try so hard but result is again 50% 50%.
It depends on the comps you're against, why would you split against a TF top with Nocturne?
You're pulling 2 to you and/or getting tf or noc ult. That still sounds in line with his intentions of split pushing?
@@BehPoker Sure. The point here is that why would you do it when there is a high likelihood that you’re too immobile to get away from that pressure and survive as compared to someone where the cost is higher.
It’s easier to lock down a squishy adc in this situation but if a Mundo is in this situation splitting why would the Noc and TF go on them?
@@marcusthomas4727 I think his point was that you're basically the weakest and most useless person on your team at this stage so you pulling a stronger person to match sets your team up to have a better 4v4. You're also likely the lowest level and have the lowest death timer and have good wave clear. I think especially in plat and lower, there is statistically a good shot that you won't have 2 people wanting to push side lanes so it's just something you can consistently do.
@@marcusthomas4727 and then he also says if you're equal levels/gold, you should win against all those champs. And if you're majorly down to something like a fed noc or kass, that game is probably doomed anyways so you might as well max your XP/gold to scale up to winnable state and just hope enemy team isn't coordinated enough to end early (and since it's low elo, that seems fairly likely)
Actually solid advice. (Thank you)
@@islamhashem-hc8jn 🤓☝
@@islamhashem-hc8jn I'm curious, why is the word advice uncountable? What is the logic behind? Is it that is not something material?
I often do this... as a support. Most adc are completely clueless about how the game works, so I litteraly end up carrying with good macro and catches only. I figured it out when the old Tham Kench was released. Played it top as an AD bruiser/Tower demolisher with ZZ'rot while his ult allowed me to play on two lanes simultaneously.
It took me three weeks to climb from bronze to gold, and I learned a lot about lane management and the macro game in general.
Most of your advises are golden 👌
17:50 alternative title: "THE BAUS"
This is actually very helpful tbh. It gives you actual control over the game unlike grouping 24/7 with your braindead team
99% of the ADCs I have to support as main never rush for level 2. It tends to be me pushing for it as support and forcing us to be level 2. Sometimes it works, and other times my ADC gets so mad I was touching the wave at all that they int or ragequit right there. Also, the level 3 spike is real if there is a character that relies upon it. The main character that really needs level 3 is Brand. Level 2 for Brand isn't a big deal, but level 3 is HUGE as either the ADC or support role. One thing you didn't mention in this video is proper use of wards and knowing jungle gank timers.
if they dont touch wave than just dont touch it either. you WILL get lvl 2 and 3 if you just wait and back off. who cares if your ADC ints? mute them and stave off the bleeding until you can roam and enable another lane, or better yet, carry yourself with a champion that ideally isnt an enchanter or tank support.
taking advantage of lvl 2 is a cognizant effort between both laners on bot and it always starts with ADC, if they dont follow the program it's fine, just play passively along side them and just ward tri-bush to look for jungle gank under tower
there is no way this is gonna happen in my bronze games
thank you so much for this! I was struggling to get s rank as adc to get the box, i got 2 s in a row right after seeing the video
Your "push into taking towers" segment is the single quickest way to lose a game in low elo.
1. Your team WILL flame you and NEVER even attempt to help you again.
2. All you're doing is giving the enemy team a massive wave to farm.
3. The enemy team just got map priority by killing all your teammates.
4. You'll likely cause your team to FF even if you could win.
5. You might cause a teammate to afk.
6. If you get hit by a global ult and collapsed on, you're dead.
7. Anything else I can't think of.
This guide is not made with Iron-Gold in mind.
Unless you've been playing and practicing against Plat+ players allowing you to gain that level of skill, you'll never actually be able to climb above Gold.
I'd argue alot of Bronze level players are actually playing at a Gold level, but can't climb due to all the Smurfs, Inters, Trolls, and genuinely bad players holding them back.
you're talking about a lot of factors that are just not important to think about. who cares if "the right play" pisses off your teammates? they are also in Iron-Gold FOR A REASON. mute them, accept that this game has a lot of man-children with soft egos, and move on to the next match as you learn how to carry.
the guide of course doesn't incorporate a bunch of "what ifs" because it literally can't. there's countless factors you have to just get used to identifying to know when to implement the strategies in the video. Even Vapora Dark, an ADC main content creator, was skeptical seeing this video but actually made some macro improvements to his gameplay when he started listening to some of the advice mentioned.
6:33 such a clean Kaisa ult.
4:09 2 melees and 1 caster on the 2nd wave also spikes now bcs xp buff
I just watched this it ranked me up to diamond. I would imagine if there are players who understand the zoning and strategies, it would be difficult to climb up as this video will help you easily get into the proper laning phase.
I played LoL for a moment as ADC and I had the impression ADCs die way too fast.
Even if I am fed, enemy assassin attacks me two times and I am dead lol…
usually because ADCs
1) dont look for key abilities they need to try to avoid
2) try to build whatever is recommended by their companion app of choice, which usually involves glass cannon crit build and thus have no defensive items until like last item, if the game even lasts that long
3) have the positioning skills of a melee minion that only knows how to go forward and die.
4) don't look at the map.
@@zacharyjackson1829 Yeah, fair points. I do not know all abilities from all champs, I don’t even know all champs 😅
And yes, I built normally what is recommended, mostly kraken, lord Dominiks.
What I do: check mini map where enemies are, who I do not see and based on this I push or go base.
my problem is as an adc main, i can come out of laning phase 10-3 but when top and/or mid feeds its over
Such a good video !
Helped me a lot, went from Gold I -> Dia 2
ADC is best enjoyed with an actual Duo partner being either support or jungle.
corejj was def aheadof his time. he mentioned the triangle formation many years ago
"if youre ahead you'll easly win" ehw tell this to the broken champs like sett, yone, yasuo that are 0/10 and still solo kill the adcs
Say you did not grasp the purpose of the video, it would have been faster
This guide only works while you climbing till gold 4. After that, this strategy barely works in 25-30% of your games, and if you continue playing like this, you're gonna stuck and get reported really hard.
In medium elos you have multiple things to considerer:
- Assasins always are a threat, since they can one shot you even if they are like 0/5/2 on the score board. As long they have at least 1-2 items, they can kill you easylie. So, pushing alone the line almost always ends with your head chopped from your body.
- Winning the early game phase line is not so much impactful as a whole on the late game, and also can be even a negative choice since you can give bounties to the enemies. And as a said before, you're squishy, so everyone can kill you and take it. Thats something really important because the balance of gold can turn really fast if you play with this mental conception.
- The worst case scenario for an ADC is not dying 3-5 times on your lane. It is your mental down because you start messing around alone and not playing around your team.
- When you are far ahead of your opponents, the worst you can do is getting stick at your lane. Is better to roam mid/jg to expand your impact by letting your mid/jg gets kills with your help. Also secure towers/dragons/objectives.
-When you are far beyond of your opponents, the most important thing to do is farm and roam every time the enemy adc do it too. And pray the enemie adc be overconfident and your assasins take it in control.
Good luck ADC mains, you will need it.
question, if u are against a soraka support would u trade against her or the adc?
Splitpushing as ADC is so strong right now that I actually prefer my jungler to play for topside because it often means six grubs.
insanely helpful and well made Video, thank u very much. Cant wait for the Midlane one.
A lot of these strats are really only possible on Kai'sa reliably. Other champs can not pull off the game delays well enough.
Not enough emphasis on how important map awareness is when you decide to use a strategy like this. You need to be aware of who can challenge you and where they could be coming from, or else you can just get collapsed on and killed for free while your team does absolutely nothing with it cause they had no opportunities on the map. Knowing where everyone is and what their options are is what lets you decide when and how to split, especially as a less powerful splitpusher on adc.
Actually an amazing guide :) thanks!
the best video ever, but I recently change for jungle and for now more fun and dynamic.
You guys expect low elo teams to understand, that the strongest enemy member is out of the fight so they have a better chance fighting? Never happens, they just see you splitting, dying and proceed to flame you instead of doing anything.
this is great sums up ADC in SOLO Q in a very good way
even Cleared somethings up to me that i have been doing it by habit
Great Work
^Emerald ADC Main^
Im convinced, ADC is useless in low elo. A squishy little thing. You get instaltly erased by everyone.
Very interesting tips!! I always play adc and have embarrassingly been doing a couple of them! Haha thanks!
Great video! Will come back to review again.
the triangle works the other way round when soraka is the enemy supp.
Thanks my dude !
I tried every role in the last few season i peaked on Silver 2 , this season i start playin adc and im in plat VI at the moment !!
Most junglers dont need leash even if they start red
But in low ELO, unless they specifically say so, if you don't leash most jungles get immediately angry and tell you they won't be ganking your lane
but why would you not leash? it gives you tempo. just do like a auto q auto and leave. this is esp true for fast clears. if you get a small leash you will have time to do other stuff like look for a gank and stuff.
@@ProbroXLv1It gives your jungler minimal tempo, but looses your own tempo for it. If you leash and the enemy doesn't you immediately give up on level 2 advantage, thus early lane advantage, and risk getting cheesed from either tribrush or the lane brush. You also inform the enemy team where your jungler started, so they now where to expect the first gank after a clear.
@@HallidayASR they weren't gonna gank your lane anyways. if anything, if those kinds of people stay away it's actually a bonus since they wont feed at least your lane. Those people exist to AFK farm, die at objectives because they don't know how lane priority works, and never look at a map. mute them and move on
@@ProbroXLv1 leash does quite a few things
1) it tells enemy jungle and your enemy lane your jungler's pathing clear.
2) opens yourself up to bush camping cheese (yes you can avoid this with preemptive wards, but that takes away from you using a better ward later on)
3) opens yourself up to being spaced off the wave
these are the biggest potential consequences of leashing. does it always happen? of course not, but even one of these things can throw your lane which is a large risk for shaving off a couple seconds of your jungler's clear, something you can't even guarantee they'll use effectively.
i respect the draven jungle. he was als doing well. nice
Alright, now bring my guide for support as quickly as possible, thank you!
man this was really helpful thanks
wow so much new concepts ive learnt as a jungler watching an adc tutorial
Haha Gold inflation haha
Watching this i find myself going "Oh that's why i won that game or that's why that worked." Really goes to show that improving is about doing things consciously and noticing the results.
Really appreciate this
sidelaning as adc only works until gold and if enemy do not have an assassin jungler
This is a great idea. I should tax my jungler every time he doesn’t gank.
What can you do against a full Assassine Team Like Last Game vs Nafiri top, Talon mir, Evelyn jgl, ap kaisa ADC, Bard tanky supp
You speak just a tiny bit too fast. You talking about complex problems, not obvious ones (this is the whole point of the video), so please talk a tad slower to let us understand what you're really saying.
I agree, but in case you didn't know you can slow it down in settings
As someone who doesnt speak english fluently i do agree
Just set the video to .75 speed, it's a feature you can always use right here on YT
Skill issue 😊
@@reni6817 garen player detected
Bro just gave adcs the ultimate excuse about having no agency while also promoting their rage split. Lets go.
Sidelane sometimes is impossible especially vs Master Yi or Lee sin.
So many annoying comments bringing up exceptions to the principles in the video. Why don't they cover every edge case in this 22 minute video?
Please make the support video!!!
I don't leash no matter how much the jgl pings, the supp should do that but I go to the lane so that I can quickly reach lvl 2 no matter what the jgl thinks of me
As an Emerald Jungler but a Gold ADC. ADC sucksssss but nothing feels better than pressing R on Samira. And getting dash resets and executions
« You can do this too since these are the only tips I applied »
*Proceeds to get 280cs in 28 minutes*
That’s how he got that cs though, by focusing more on farming / pushing compared to fighting
@@michaelxie837 I can assure you that the vast majority of low elo players miss so much cs even in practice tool that no amount of pushing could get them to 10cs/min. That doesn’t mean that the strat isn’t viable, but at least, I think it would make more sense to illustrate these videos by using low elo players’ replays when they’re coached live for the macro.
@@elie_ sure, but missing last hits is something that you don’t need a coach for, that’s easy to see and practice on your own, but missing cs from macro is much harder to notice on your own especially if you’re low elo, so teaching the latter is much more useful than just saying “get better at last hitting”. In any case the video wasn’t marketed as “how to get 10 cs per min” anyway. Although sure I’d agree with you watching a coaching of a low elo player implementing the strat might be more useful
@@michaelxie837 I agree with you. It's just that the CSing is one thing, but when high elo coaches say "I won't use mechanics this game" or "this is possible for you" etc... I usually don't really like it, because it doesn't make sense. I saw countless videos of high elo players say "See, I didn't use mechanics in this teamfight, only AA", but the fact is that yes, a challenger player can win tf only AAing, but they use perfect spacing, targetting, decision-making etc... This is why I feel that these vdeos are vastly misleading in what they pretend to sell, and they would benefit having a low elo player behind the keybord and mouse ^^
@@elie_ fair enough!
as a supp main I can tell you another tip. WHEN WE ROAM DONT 1V3
Then the Ekko gets a triple mid instead if each getting one and this strat falls apart lol
12:20 "i know what you're thinking, my team dies while im on sidelane" No that wasn't what i was thinking. I was thinking that op assassin and toplane fighter champions will hunt you down and kill you with no effort when you are on sidelane alone.
Everyone: This can't possibly work because x, y, z!
Me, using this strat, blowing through the enemy team late game because I have 400cs.
I feel like top/mid does the split pushing instead of adc doing it would be much better. They're easier to drag people to defend them and get away.
Each time you die you're delaying your growth. You should just farm on mid lane and prepare for objective fights, considering adcs are much more fragile, and they don't even bring tp. Farming safely, not inting and getting caught alone, that's their job.
I'm watching this because I'm determined to be an ADC main coz I'm tired of playing support for years!
“You see that Draven jungle you know it’s solo queue”
For "focus enemy adc" if the support is a fake support like brand or velkoz or something like weak like that who should I be targeting first ? The adc still ?
if you can kill adc kill adc if you can kill both first kill fake sup
I knoe these videos are supposed to exist to help low elo players (not that im thaaat high, i peaked d1 im not trying to flex) but you talk about half of the stuff people need to learn.
For me its more important to learn how to face certain match ups. Like what to do when you are vs a poke lane, what to do when you are vs a scaling lane, what to do when you are vs a killing threat lane.
Macro for me is the next step. First you need to teach them how to match up THEN what to do after they actually manage to go through the laning phase
14:34 adc players realising that they can actually go impact the map like every other role instead of just pushing until they die the second their support recalls
Video starts at 1:04. Yw
Yo... if you can split push + steal enemies jg at 20 in the game it means you are playing against bots, this is a guide for iron-silver players
So basically what Kayle players have been doing for years
You know the game is ruined when the adc video sounds like a tryndamere guide
Good guide imo, well played
What if they have an assassin when the ADC split push?
12:20 okay but I still have a problem with this because a lot of times when I try to do this my team loses in a 4v4 while the enemy top laner or jungler comes to side lane and either kills me or if he can't do that still denies me taking tower. Any advice on what I can do in these situation? Should I just stay with my team then?
Thanks!
when you play adc IT ISN'T ABOUT MACRO IT'S ABOUT YOUR TEAM
dude if u solo sidelaning as an adc u risking dying, and not risking only if you are far ahead. And if ur team loses a fight, enemies get waves, your jungle, towers and objectives. And now you got one tower and three waves, and loses two towers and a dragon.
It is a possible strategy, but it super high risk and you rarely can pull it off.
The split push is bad idea to be honest. Most of poeple are gonna int on sidelanes and troll objectives feeding enemy assasin makeing their life even worse.
el mmr de tu cuenta influye mucho si has perdido mucho, te va a tocar gente mala, como se puede reparar ese daño?
i kind of struggle with this 13:25, if your team completely loses the fight there dont they just take baron and end the game?
Problem is my jungler and support go 0-11 and im just getting out itemed everytime and I am not dying and trying to keep up.
13:22 If I'm Viego jungle and I see my adc stealing my jungle camps I'm literally going to follow him and make sure to smite at least 2 cannon minions
People like you are the cause of this videos existing and de game being toxic and dumb
my teammates go on same lane as me and take farm + blaming me for doing it. 20+ min game
instructions unclear, my support nautilus flash+ignited wave 1 but he missed hook, then we nearly both died and I had to burn heal+flash to stay alive. Now i'm recalling back to base, and when I return I have no summs left. Nautilus is freaking out in chat and is about to aggressively feed again this time, however it will go worse because we are now gold+xp behind and have no summs either?
These courses guarantee better teammates? Or i miss something ?
There is no way 3 players don't make a "triangle formation", no matter what their position is.